@@LuisPerez-5 You're paying for the portablity at that point. Cloud gaming would be better. But over the course of the next few years we may start seeing the affordabilty inch closer and closer for higher end gaming. Until then it's for gamer hoppyist with money to throw around.
Should be a good direction for gaming handhelds making it lighter for mobile play by relying on a strong integrated gpu then upon arriving home (or something more grounded) just dock the device to a dock with a GPU and additional peripherals + storage .
This, but with a more powerful CPU like the 7945HX even to the detriment of the thinness and portability due to a large battery and maybe with a more integrated way to connect the eGPU like a connector on the case instead of using cables, would be a dream that came true.
Hi ETA! I love your videos! I have type 1 diabetes which is an organ failure of the pancreas, your videos are the reason why I know about handheld pc’s and lots of devices. I started fixing devices like phone and laptops because of you! My fav vid is your Lenovo legion go! That’s my fav pc. I hope you have a great day and god bless!❤
Other than a 0.4" larger display, what's the difference between the X1 Mini and the 2 Pro? Seems like the biggest difference is the shape of the controller pieces.
Does this mean an Oculink dock??? I could imagine a dock with both connections, tb4 carrying the power and peripherals… Oculink running out to the eGPU
With all the extra ports and providing enough power to do the GPU and the device that is connected you could consider this a "dock". This one that ETA is testing even has a slot for a NVME drive.
I wish you or someone else could test Star Citizen with this exact setup.. the moment a handheld will be able to run SC in acceptable frames in desktop mode I will go full ham
I have the onexplayer x1 10.95" and wondering how ti get the best results on my new samsung odyssey g9 32:9 aspect ratio. The added gpu dock is probably necessary im guessing
so an oculink needs to be on the device and gpu for it to work? I dont know much about handhelds and am currently looking into several, asus ally x, antec core hs, and the one x handheld. some have thunderbolt 4 and some use oculink. I know oculink has greater bandwidth over thunderbolt/usb 4. My question is if the device doesnt have oculink but its dock/egpu does have oculink is that enough or does BOTH devices "hand held and dock/egpu" need to have connector for the performance boost?
Hello ETA Prime, can you recommend a mini-PC with Gen 5 PCIE with GEN 5 NVME SSD's? More specifically these specs: -16 DDR5 RAM minimum -8 Core/16 Thread CPU (Intel or AMD) -iGPU (Intel or AMD) -PCIE GEN 5 -PCIE GEN 5 NVME SSD with 2.5GB/sec minimum -USB 4.0 -Bluetooth 5.2 or higher -Wifi6E minimum but prefer Wifi7 -HDMI 2.1 out
yeah the pricing on these things are highly prohibitive to average consumer. $1,099.00 for a handheld is too much of an asking price. even more so if you are going to attach an external gpu. the whole idea is stupid. with 1500-1800 bucks you can get a decent desktop computer. dont get me wrong i love this type of tech but not at the current pricing
People used to say WinGDP and Aya Neo is too expensive, until Steam Deck, ROG Ally and Legion Go comes out. I hope gaming tablet with detachable controller will be a thing and become cheaper as times goes. The potential is there for sure.
ive tested cp2077 with onexplayer pro 2 with onex gpu and runs very well. i put everything on ultra and runs flawlessly i just wish the screen was 4k to get better resolution
I dont recall if that model has an extra m.2 slot to add an oculink adapter but it would be quite rough to cut a hole in the shell to make it happen, it would also have to be the one without a dgpu to make it work without major tinkering.
I am a cs2 player, please, for some competive players like me compare the performance, in Brazil is so Hard acess to hardware like this, so for import is important.
If you use oculink, is required also to plug the usb c? I bought a nvme to oculink adapter for my desktop pc, but when I plug the oculink to my onexgpu and I turn on the pc and the onexgpu, it does not work, even the leds don't turns on, any idea
that bottleneck you are worring about is not as severe as you think. For a high end gpu to be bottlenecked you'd have to pair it with a CPU from like 7 years ago to have a visible effect. I've been using my RX7800XT with my 7840U minisforum 780XTX mini PC and there's absolutely no bottleneck
@@chilledburritothe point is to have a laptop + handheld experience on one device. But yeah I'd rather choose the 11inch onexplayer x1 than the 8.8 because i want it to be more like a laptop if I ever decide to go for it
It's 3-in-1, a hybrid handheld, laptop and tablet. For that and the bigger screen i don't mind the look, i would also consider getting the minisforum v3.
Tbh I'm a bit disappointed in another video of just benchmarks of an APU we all know already. For a handheld I'd appreciate a much larger portion of the video being on ergonomics, battery life, daily usability, B roll of it in use in your actual hands, not docked to an underwhelming eGPU no one cares about :(
I really don't see the point of these demonstrations of handheld pcs being able to connect to oculink etc. Ok great, they can output their video thru those. Now what?
The entire purpose of getting a handheld gaming device is for portability. Why bother demoing these with external GPU's? A total joke. If that's what one wants they would be way better off with a mini PC. These videos are getting old.
3-in-1 is the best concept for handheld PCs if you ask me.
8:14 Title Here looks like a really good game
Looks like spooderman remake
@4:59 scared the shit out of me! lmao
Take that APU and GPU, merge them together, optimize it and you obtain Strix Halo. I cannot wait to see the mini PCs using it.
Seems like handheld PC’s with a EGPU for at home could be a sizable portion of the gaming PC market going forward.
Nah. You sacrifice a lot to do that. A desktop PC of the same value as this is ALOT more powerful
@LuisPerez-5 what about portability? Can't do that on a desktop
@@edster1801 Not worth what you sacrifice for it. Not at that price.
@@LuisPerez-5 You're paying for the portablity at that point. Cloud gaming would be better. But over the course of the next few years we may start seeing the affordabilty inch closer and closer for higher end gaming. Until then it's for gamer hoppyist with money to throw around.
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Id rather have this setup any day. How hasn't this thing gone viral???
I'd love to see a size comparison between this and a OXP2. Even just the tablets to see if they have thinned it out at all would be cool.
It’s slightly larger than OXP2 with an 8.8in display vs 8.4.
I’ll do a size comparison when I get it
Thank you for not upscaling when judging its performance
finally haha
CoD runs at 720p
I don’t know why people say that it’s looks ugly it’s actually pretty good not perfect but it’s not ugly
Because it is
If portability matters, this may make some sense.
This is a solution that PlayStation dreams of🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Playstation portal is crying in the corner blasting Linkin Park
I never understood the purpose of the Sony portal, the biggest hype that farted in the wind.
wait 5-10 more years, sony gonna have some amazing tech😂
thank you! looks like the one for me!
Should be a good direction for gaming handhelds making it lighter for mobile play by relying on a strong integrated gpu then upon arriving home (or something more grounded) just dock the device to a dock with a GPU and additional peripherals + storage .
This, but with a more powerful CPU like the 7945HX even to the detriment of the thinness and portability due to a large battery and maybe with a more integrated way to connect the eGPU like a connector on the case instead of using cables, would be a dream that came true.
Hi ETA! I love your videos! I have type 1 diabetes which is an organ failure of the pancreas, your videos are the reason why I know about handheld pc’s and lots of devices. I started fixing devices like phone and laptops because of you! My fav vid is your Lenovo legion go! That’s my fav pc. I hope you have a great day and god bless!❤
@ETA PRIME so with all of the handhelds you have reviewed and tested, which would you say is your go to? Or favorite?
The overlay sound at 4:59 jumpscared me so hard
What a dreamy machine !
Other than a 0.4" larger display, what's the difference between the X1 Mini and the 2 Pro? Seems like the biggest difference is the shape of the controller pieces.
I think the x1 mini is just a 2 pro refresh with a oculink port for the onexegpu
If it can play COD (not mobile versions) and Xdefiant in handheld format, this might be the one for me.
Looks great 🙌🤌
Does this mean an Oculink dock??? I could imagine a dock with both connections, tb4 carrying the power and peripherals… Oculink running out to the eGPU
With all the extra ports and providing enough power to do the GPU and the device that is connected you could consider this a "dock". This one that ETA is testing even has a slot for a NVME drive.
Wouldn't performance be better if you turned off the wallpaper engine and screen off on the tablet?
yes
@ETAPRIME what overlay are you using and how did you get it to work for FPS etc?
I wish you or someone else could test Star Citizen with this exact setup.. the moment a handheld will be able to run SC in acceptable frames in desktop mode I will go full ham
trust me, it runs star citizen pretty good gpu is that powerful
@@draco2xx it's an optimised mess tho and veeeerrx CPU heavy
I have the onexplayer x1 10.95" and wondering how ti get the best results on my new samsung odyssey g9 32:9 aspect ratio. The added gpu dock is probably necessary im guessing
We need standardized vertical docks so they save the maximum amount of space on the desk.
What about noise of this both devices??? I want that setup but absolutely hate noise from gadgets
It sounds like a supernova explosion
the noise is fine, its not loud at all. gpu is well built, i have the onexplayer pro 2 and the onex gpu both runs great
can wait for 64gb ram and 4tb ssd then get boost-r egpu for 400-500
When will tb5 and usb c v2 arrive? 80gbps of egpu will be amazing
You haven't managed to get hold of one of those Snapdragon X Elite dev kits have you?
Wait dude so is it impossible to use the Oculink with the keyboard???
Form factor looks great
so an oculink needs to be on the device and gpu for it to work? I dont know much about handhelds and am currently looking into several, asus ally x, antec core hs, and the one x handheld. some have thunderbolt 4 and some use oculink. I know oculink has greater bandwidth over thunderbolt/usb 4. My question is if the device doesnt have oculink but its dock/egpu does have oculink is that enough or does BOTH devices "hand held and dock/egpu" need to have connector for the performance boost?
Make the one x gpu rtx 4000 series
With this latest AMD version, do we need to install the VGA driver?
What's wrong with the looks of the device? What do you expect its a 3 in 1 device.
Hello ETA Prime, can you recommend a mini-PC with Gen 5 PCIE with GEN 5 NVME SSD's? More specifically these specs:
-16 DDR5 RAM minimum
-8 Core/16 Thread CPU (Intel or AMD)
-iGPU (Intel or AMD)
-PCIE GEN 5
-PCIE GEN 5 NVME SSD with 2.5GB/sec minimum
-USB 4.0
-Bluetooth 5.2 or higher
-Wifi6E minimum but prefer Wifi7
-HDMI 2.1 out
can u please share that amd wallpaper
yeah the pricing on these things are highly prohibitive to average consumer.
$1,099.00 for a handheld is too much of an asking price. even more so if you are going to attach an external gpu.
the whole idea is stupid. with 1500-1800 bucks you can get a decent desktop computer.
dont get me wrong i love this type of tech but not at the current pricing
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People used to say WinGDP and Aya Neo is too expensive, until Steam Deck, ROG Ally and Legion Go comes out.
I hope gaming tablet with detachable controller will be a thing and become cheaper as times goes. The potential is there for sure.
High price for portability always been that way you shouldn't compare it to a desktop, but you could compare it to a laptop
"why do i need to buy a motorcycle if i can buy a car and travel for the same price".
@@OblivionPrime A laptop has more value than something like thos
No Cyberpunk for the first time on a video?
ive tested cp2077 with onexplayer pro 2 with onex gpu and runs very well. i put everything on ultra and runs flawlessly i just wish the screen was 4k to get better resolution
@@draco2xx 4k on a handheld is impossible
How are the temps and the fan noise on this? Does it have a similar noise issue like the onexplayer x1?
it runs decent, portable gpu fan noise is good too
This is the only handheld gaming console that used oculink. Msi, Asus, and Legion all dont want to integrate one.
How come you can connect to 4060 I just wanna see the performance
Can you show OCuLink AMD Radeon RX 7600M XT hooked up to a 2019 MacBook Pro 16, (Windows) via Bootcamp?
I dont recall if that model has an extra m.2 slot to add an oculink adapter but it would be quite rough to cut a hole in the shell to make it happen, it would also have to be the one without a dgpu to make it work without major tinkering.
Can you use the Bigger x1 docked to monitor ??
I am a cs2 player, please, for some competive players like me compare the performance, in Brazil is so Hard acess to hardware like this, so for import is important.
If you use oculink, is required also to plug the usb c? I bought a nvme to oculink adapter for my desktop pc, but when I plug the oculink to my onexgpu and I turn on the pc and the onexgpu, it does not work, even the leds don't turns on, any idea
oculink port at the bottom of the console, DISASTER
IT'S NINTENDO SWITCH 2
Just has way, way more power under the hood .
This is what the X1 should have been.
Can I use the egpu with the 1X player mini exclusively without a external Monitor and still get those types of FPS question mark
yes
is there a more powerful E GPU then the 7600MXT? Wonder if the 8840U is capable of high more demading frame rate games.
that bottleneck you are worring about is not as severe as you think. For a high end gpu to be bottlenecked you'd have to pair it with a CPU from like 7 years ago to have a visible effect. I've been using my RX7800XT with my 7840U minisforum 780XTX mini PC and there's absolutely no bottleneck
Games move max 1gb a sec, the apu is more than enough like said above.
Also anything with an oculink, and it shouldn't be to complicated to rig a desktop card. It's not as portable, or double as a dock but yeah lol.
Can I use this egpu on my commodore 64?
@@Fldllsewhat type of performance? I just ordered the 780...what ram did you go with?
Have you seen the anbernic rg cube yet?
Hi, can we use the egpu without external monitor?
yes
Nice
I googled this the model shown did not come up.what is the price.
trying with emulator Android, suyu, ryuujinx & cemu
how many lanes shows with that eGPU in statistics in GPU-Z?
Where's the floppy drive?
Form factor looks terrible
FR
Can’t help but feel like it’s rather counterintuitive(not the best word, can’t think) to have a handheld device this big.
@@chilledburritothe point is to have a laptop + handheld experience on one device. But yeah I'd rather choose the 11inch onexplayer x1 than the 8.8 because i want it to be more like a laptop if I ever decide to go for it
I agree
It's 3-in-1, a hybrid handheld, laptop and tablet. For that and the bigger screen i don't mind the look, i would also consider getting the minisforum v3.
hdmi 2.0 or 2.1
😁😁😁👍👍👍..nice...
Tbh I'm a bit disappointed in another video of just benchmarks of an APU we all know already. For a handheld I'd appreciate a much larger portion of the video being on ergonomics, battery life, daily usability, B roll of it in use in your actual hands, not docked to an underwhelming eGPU no one cares about :(
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You can have a ghetto solution similar to this with a modded gamesir G8 + lenovo Y700 tablet. Less feature but much cheaper.
Waiting for xelite hand held
8:00 huh mistake title here
Design - L
Portability - L
Cost - L
"Title here" XD
you already posted this 2 days ago lol
veNom
I really don't see the point of these demonstrations of handheld pcs being able to connect to oculink etc. Ok great, they can output their video thru those. Now what?
First lol
Congratulations
The entire purpose of getting a handheld gaming device is for portability. Why bother demoing these with external GPU's? A total joke. If that's what one wants they would be way better off with a mini PC. These videos are getting old.