A world where all laptops have oculink ports would be the dream. Usable for ordinary tasks when you're running it portably, and then dock it to a powerhouse GPU in desk mode for the occasional high-end gaming session.
That would be really cool, however as of right now, the capability of OCUlink is very limited to portable use since i guess most eGPU and the laptop doesn't support hotplug and the OCUlink connector itself only has very few reinsertion resistance so for now USB C is the way to go, unless OCUlink made a new revision that push the manufacturer to support hotplug and made the connector much more sturdier
Is there a way to do the same with a CPU or is that still impossible? Would like to see modular PC designs in the future, where you can always plug in the latest CPU, ram stick or even GPU without having to a buy a new motherboard.
@@dstarr3 This is what I am trying to do with handhelds.. powerful setup at home and playable device on the go.. too bad is no thunderbolt this one as legion go doesn’t have oculink
My daughter's computer had an "accident" a while back and I was looking for a cost effective and somewhat portable system for her to use when she goes away for school. I've got this exact setup...sort of.... had some spare parts from her build hanging around. I'm using the MS-A1 with a Ryzen 7 7500F, a 6750XT with the Oculink DEG1, and 32 GB of 4800 DDR5. This setup works really well together. She's super happy with it. It was honestly really easy to build as well.
@@Neopulse00 Lol. Thanks! I have to say that I may have had ulterior motives behind going this route. I'm a bit of a tinkerer and it was a good way to say to my wife "You know what would work really well?" to get the go ahead and get the parts.
@@nicolasguzman4957 It worked without a hitch. I was quite surprised how easy it was honestly. I just made sure that the GPU was powered on first, then tuned on the PC, and it was smooth sailing. The GPU I used was an ASRock Challenger 6750 XT 12GB. Hope that helps.
I bought this egpu for my OneXplayer X1 Mini (8840U). It was very easy to setup with a Radeon Card. It was a nightmare to get this to play with my old RTX 3080. When I did get it working with the 3080, Black Myth Wukong ran WAY better than expected getting. Over 100+Fps at 1440p/High Settings. This Egpu dock is BEAUTIFUL
@fmfrequency THIS is the comment I needed to see. I have an Ally X and am looking to try and make that my "one system for all". I've always been a console gamer but I want to be able to replace my PS5 with my Ally X so I can play any and all titles in handheld or docked on my TV without having to buy games twice for different consoles. I'm still learning about eGPU's and how they work but I'm thinking this with an rtx 4060 may get me there. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance 🙏
@@kylevaubel3897 One thing that is nice about thunderbolt egpus is that it is infinitely easier to setup but it doesn't have the bandwidth that oculink does. Just remember that the higher end your card, the more performance potential you lose with thunderbolt. Even though I predominantly own Nvidia GPUs on my devices, I tend to to favor AMD GPUs more for Egpus. Cards like the Radeon 7700 xt or 7800 xt. Great price to performance ratio.
wonderful thing! Completely showing that BIG ATX PC days are over. How easy you can set it to luggage and Fly away to other country and quickly set up your own gaming pc in each place in the world and play and still have performance of big PC. incredible
Seriously doubt anyone would fly around the world with a bulky 4080/4090 (weights 4.5 to 5 pounds btw) and have gaming monitors, gaming keyboard etc. ready at "each place" he travels to :D
@@yibozhao1012 pff. bro, by your skepticism words i already see that you not traveling at all. I travel threw whole Asia. and every good apartments already included in themselves common areas like swimming pool, gym and most important co-working spaces with already set up big monitors and tables with gaming chairs. Only one thing they not included - is the PC. and the 4090 with minipc is not weights too much if you travel 7kg cabin luggage +20kg checked baggage. so yeah. for travel and have powerful PC comparing to ATX size in luggage is very cool.
@@dimacus15 Based on my skepticism maybe you could've concluded that i have been seldom PC-gaming while travelling. To say that i'm not travelling at all would only let one wonder about your abilities of logical thinking. In fact I traveled through the whole Germany and half of China on a bicycle while you're maybe in a gameing chair. Ok, if they all provide 4090-worthy gaming monitors but no PCs, be my guest. But does that really make sense to provide such high-end monitors while all the guests bring with them are laptops with mobile GPU?
I just spent a week in my travel trailer on the road with my GMKtec NucBox M7 Pro with the AMD Ryzen 9 Pro 6950H cpu. Trailer already had a tv, I just brought along a small cordless keyboard and mouse and I'm in business. Just ordered the dock, can hardly wait!
@@yibozhao1012 yes and when i meet such people with laptops in the co-working area -> they all connecting their laptops to the screen that apartments are providing in the common areas. so again-> no matter what they bring with them, laptop or minipc, they still using external monitors, external audio output, external keyboard and mouse. Difference between laptop and mini pc is two -> weight/volume it occupy in the cabin bag that is limited by size and 7kg weight. and second -> gaming laptop is still a mobile GPU. it will never match the external desktop GPU by performance. so if you need true desktop performance and still be mobile at the same time. for move every 2-3 months from country to country its the only way for now.
This is the perfect external Watercooled GPU setup because there's enough room behind the GPU mount for pump/res combo with a 240mm rad (rad will require drilling holes to mount standard radiator mounts)
Honestly, I never understood why anyone would get an eGPU instead of a desktop PC due to how expensive they were. But for 99$, with the PCIe 4.0 speed of Oculink it ACTUALLY starts to make A LOT of sense. Let say you purchase- or already own a handheld PC with Oculink; Would it make sense to purchase whole new desktop platform? (Motherboard, CPU, Memory, fans etc) Not to me, I would rather focus all of that money on the GPU instead. Sure, you can still get better CPU performance on a desktop computer, but these handheld PCs are competent enough that I would rather value to use that extra "desktop"-money and purchase a GPU several tiers above my overall budget.
@@udance4ever I just purchased one from GMKteck with a amd ryzen9. Comes with oculink support already. And I believe with two m.2 x4 slots. Oculink should have it's own board and no need an adapter to work over m.2 like most ppl do. I'm looking into getting the 7900xtx over a 4080gtx the price the value is way better
@@richolishis94 I have the same GMKtec machine, for the money it can't be beat! With just the video on the chip I play Borderlands 3 and Tiny Tina's Wonderland with no problems. Just ordered the dock to play with, can hardly wait!
This is overpowered. Better to see how much mid range cards will lose in performance at this kind of set-up. Wanna buy minisforum bareborn ms-pc. Ty for video :3
x2 something great about CPU chips are that compared to mobile GPUs, the mobile CPUs have the same (or evento better) performance than desktop CPUs for example, the z1 extreme is more poewrfull than the ryzen 5600x
Why hasn't a company made a very compact external Mobile GPU? I want a really thin laptop, but also a dedicated GPU. I would really like something like a really small external 4080m that looks nice sitting on my desk at a decent price point so I can just turn my Ultrabook in to a gaming laptop when needed. Surely, I'm not the only one? The desktop eGPU are too big and expensive.
If you can live with 20 threads and an A770m (16GB), buying a Serpent Canyon NUC 12 for 6-700 is way cheaper and smaller. A Thunderbolt-box (10yrs old technique) will cost $300+ alone and make even a 4070 ($500) slower (esp. 0.1%) than the NUC in many games. The little A770m (512GB/s VRAM, 120W) is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
OCulink will still outperform TB5 in regards to eGPU. The only thing I like about TB5 is the (obvious) better port stability. TB5 has too many negatives though. Sticking with the direct PCIe integration is the way to go. I'm just wondering if Mini-SAS is the future like ASUS is now doing with their new x870e boards. Technically a Mini-SAS can reach 192 Gbps which is insane.
@@jabronilifestyle Oculink and Thunderbolt 5 are incompatible interfaces designed for different use cases. Oculink is intended for internal communication within systems, while TB5 focuses on external connectivity. Additionally, TB5 can deliver up to 240 watts of power, making it suitable for powering devices, whereas Oculink does not provide any power delivery at all. This fundamental difference in purpose and functionality highlights why they can't be used interchangeable
So what is the OCuLink penalty here? how much of the frames we are loosing with this setup? what is scale factor on that? resolution? texture quality? tell us more, please! And I would love to look how this setup works with handhelds you have. just t have an understanding what could be best possible setup with all limitations and somewhat reasonable spending
CopperLink will change everything, and likely make an eGPU the default for a lot of people. CopperLink's vastly more durable and faster interface removes all the limitations of an eGPU: very limited connecter service life, hot-plugging, and bandwidth simply go away. Server CopperLink products already exist, so it's an inevitability that CopperLink will replace OcuLink, it's just a matter of when, and without any the current limitation, the benefits of an eGPU become even more apparent: space, power and cooling efficiency, easier cleaning and upgrades, use it across multiple devices, and GPUs are so well made now they don't even need an enclosure, in fact are thermally and noise constrained in most enclosures.
Oculink is dead in the enterprise regardless, PCIE 4 spec never got ratified (as I understand it) because it wasn't stable enough. If copprlink does trickle down to consumer gear I'd be all for it since you could use it for a lot more than just eGPU's, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while if it does happen.
@@nadtz Yes, and OcuLink is a flaky spec and connector as well. While implementation dependent, the connector only has a tiny fraction of the service live of say a USB connector, and in real use, even less -- hopefully this won't start to show itself, and give people a bad taste for eGPU products before CopperLink makes an appearance. CopperLink support on inexpensive laptops and small form factor PCs would be such a boon for all involved.
Did you ever try it with a 2230 M.2 to OCulink adapter? I've tried mine with 2 and it doesn't seem to work with those. Disappointing, since those are probably the easiest way to add OCulink to a mini-PC.
I didn't understand it entirely so far. I Oculink something different from Thunderbolt? Is it part of USB4? I'd love to have a ThinkPad for instance with a good CPU and fast GPU connection for gaming when home so this looks amazing but having two competing standards doesn't scream comfortable use to me.
Would be awesome to have some kind of dust filter for the eGPU. That way there is hardly any down side of this type of setup (okay, maybe the small performance penalty of around 10%)
I've been thinking about it too. They make a lot of DIY open frame case parts. Most of those would work wrapped in a filter material. Obviously pantyhose would work, but I'd want something more durable. I think there are some decent DIY magnetic filter kits you cut to size.
the DEG1 design is neat and clean. big GPU doesnt look like hanging around about to get tugged by something. also, for people with oculink supported mini PC and want some desktop gaming performance but wanting to keep the power consumption moderate, they could use the DEG1 with something like RTX 4060 that has a mere around 120 watts of maximum power draw. and still getting desktop level gaming performance. with the mini PC is a mere around 80 watts plus the RTX 4060 it wont even hit over 220 watts in total acumulative power draw. getting desktop gaming performance with nearly half the normal desktop gaming wattages.
Are Oculink eGPU Docks working more stable than USB4 / Thunderbolt ones on Mini PCs? What are your experiences? ... my impressions so far with USB4 on Geekom A8 was not that satisfying... occasional system crashes are not uncommon.
I have a similar dock I got from Superbuy. Works great so far. It is a vertical, all black stand and comes with a 800W Power Supply built in. Super easy to set up. All the wires are short and connect without issue, Oculink cable is less than 2 feet. EG01 H3 800W (12VHPWR graphics card interface) I would like to someone do a video review on it.
I just made a really simple mod to my Acer SFX14 to add an Oculink port. Placement is not the best but performance is really nice, this should become more common for laptops.
I would really like to see a video that compares as close as possible, mini pc with x specs using oculink with Y GPU to a PC with same X Specs and same Y GPU (direct PCIE). Just to see the FPS loss etc.
@drewnewby yeah i mean if you have a pc with a 4060 equivalent, a handheld pc would be awesome for dicking around the house, no worries about egpus, and you can run your handheld in 15 watt mode so you get crazy battery life too!
@drewnewby ive been holding out till i get my hands on a rog ally or something, i have a samsung galaxy tab s7 fe. I should just get that controller. What the hell am I doing?! Thanks for the idea!
great video as always. I'm waiting for my ms-a1 coming tomorrow end my deg1 coming next weak, the i will pair them with mi xfx rx6900xt for 1440p gaming,. i'll hope the new ryzen 7600x will be supported by the ms-a1, and if it will be this little pc become a real monster.
This $99 affordable and performant eGPU dock is game changing 👍 and IMO serves as bigger news than this week's AMD 9000 series Zen 5 cpu launch. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
How is this different to any of the basic Oculink SFF-8612 to PCI-E adapters that are out there? Is it simply that it comes with a solid base that makes it easier to use? Or is there some other improvement over the basic adapters?
Why they don't sell some cozy sleeved 8 pin pcie cables for this? Cable management using standard psu wires is always terrible to look in these open air configurations
THANK YOU for including the price of the product UP FRONT. I love this. Please always do this!
I love it when ETA reviews sub-$100 products
Ya but like alwsys not a review that would have an opinion included..this is a paid commercial like always
100 dollar product with a 2k product so 2100 😂😂😂
@@mart182003 tbh oculink now more accessible with m.2 adapter, ofc old existing hardware would benefit
Is it really $100 product when you need 1000+ worth of GPU and PSU?
@@RazPlayz3not really, a 300$ 4060 and a 100$ corsair rm750 and the egpu dock which results in 500$
A world where all laptops have oculink ports would be the dream. Usable for ordinary tasks when you're running it portably, and then dock it to a powerhouse GPU in desk mode for the occasional high-end gaming session.
yeah i wish all handheld and laptop have this or at least easily accesible extra m.2 like wm2
That would be really cool, however as of right now, the capability of OCUlink is very limited to portable use since i guess most eGPU and the laptop doesn't support hotplug and the OCUlink connector itself only has very few reinsertion resistance so for now USB C is the way to go, unless OCUlink made a new revision that push the manufacturer to support hotplug and made the connector much more sturdier
Is there a way to do the same with a CPU or is that still impossible? Would like to see modular PC designs in the future, where you can always plug in the latest CPU, ram stick or even GPU without having to a buy a new motherboard.
@@dstarr3 This is what I am trying to do with handhelds.. powerful setup at home and playable device on the go.. too bad is no thunderbolt this one as legion go doesn’t have oculink
Thunderbolt5 will be the better option when better adopted. Much more bandwidth, hotplugable . Power delivery etc.
My daughter's computer had an "accident" a while back and I was looking for a cost effective and somewhat portable system for her to use when she goes away for school. I've got this exact setup...sort of.... had some spare parts from her build hanging around. I'm using the MS-A1 with a Ryzen 7 7500F, a 6750XT with the Oculink DEG1, and 32 GB of 4800 DDR5. This setup works really well together. She's super happy with it. It was honestly really easy to build as well.
Super Dad to the rescue
@@Neopulse00 Lol. Thanks! I have to say that I may have had ulterior motives behind going this route. I'm a bit of a tinkerer and it was a good way to say to my wife "You know what would work really well?" to get the go ahead and get the parts.
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Did you have any kind of problem with the amd card? Because all reviews use nvdia. Im planning a similar build like yours
@@nicolasguzman4957 It worked without a hitch. I was quite surprised how easy it was honestly. I just made sure that the GPU was powered on first, then tuned on the PC, and it was smooth sailing. The GPU I used was an ASRock Challenger 6750 XT 12GB. Hope that helps.
3:53 world first ETA Prime beard reveal.
We should have known
OMG ! That explains everything now!!!!!
When's the face reveal! I always wonder if the image I've made for people in my head matches up to real life.
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we just had him on the retro handhelds podcast if you want an actual face reveal
Finally. Im waiting for this egpu dock in this channel
Thanks!
I feel like this could be the future for PC Gaming and even Artists like myself who need a beefy GPU but don't have the space for a full sized PC
WTAF?! What utter bollocks
Build an ITX system, which not much biger and you get more for your money.
I bought this egpu for my OneXplayer X1 Mini (8840U). It was very easy to setup with a Radeon Card. It was a nightmare to get this to play with my old RTX 3080. When I did get it working with the 3080, Black Myth Wukong ran WAY better than expected getting. Over 100+Fps at 1440p/High Settings. This Egpu dock is BEAUTIFUL
@fmfrequency THIS is the comment I needed to see. I have an Ally X and am looking to try and make that my "one system for all". I've always been a console gamer but I want to be able to replace my PS5 with my Ally X so I can play any and all titles in handheld or docked on my TV without having to buy games twice for different consoles. I'm still learning about eGPU's and how they work but I'm thinking this with an rtx 4060 may get me there. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance 🙏
@@kylevaubel3897 One thing that is nice about thunderbolt egpus is that it is infinitely easier to setup but it doesn't have the bandwidth that oculink does. Just remember that the higher end your card, the more performance potential you lose with thunderbolt. Even though I predominantly own Nvidia GPUs on my devices, I tend to to favor AMD GPUs more for Egpus. Cards like the Radeon 7700 xt or 7800 xt. Great price to performance ratio.
Is it working to all kind of GPU? like affordable GPUs, not like the one on video 🥲😅
I also have onexplayer 2 device!
wonderful thing! Completely showing that BIG ATX PC days are over. How easy you can set it to luggage and Fly away to other country and quickly set up your own gaming pc in each place in the world and play and still have performance of big PC. incredible
Seriously doubt anyone would fly around the world with a bulky 4080/4090 (weights 4.5 to 5 pounds btw) and have gaming monitors, gaming keyboard etc. ready at "each place" he travels to :D
@@yibozhao1012 pff. bro, by your skepticism words i already see that you not traveling at all. I travel threw whole Asia. and every good apartments already included in themselves common areas like swimming pool, gym and most important co-working spaces with already set up big monitors and tables with gaming chairs. Only one thing they not included - is the PC. and the 4090 with minipc is not weights too much if you travel 7kg cabin luggage +20kg checked baggage. so yeah. for travel and have powerful PC comparing to ATX size in luggage is very cool.
@@dimacus15 Based on my skepticism maybe you could've concluded that i have been seldom PC-gaming while travelling. To say that i'm not travelling at all would only let one wonder about your abilities of logical thinking. In fact I traveled through the whole Germany and half of China on a bicycle while you're maybe in a gameing chair. Ok, if they all provide 4090-worthy gaming monitors but no PCs, be my guest. But does that really make sense to provide such high-end monitors while all the guests bring with them are laptops with mobile GPU?
I just spent a week in my travel trailer on the road with my GMKtec NucBox M7 Pro with the AMD Ryzen 9 Pro 6950H cpu. Trailer already had a tv, I just brought along a small cordless keyboard and mouse and I'm in business. Just ordered the dock, can hardly wait!
@@yibozhao1012 yes and when i meet such people with laptops in the co-working area -> they all connecting their laptops to the screen that apartments are providing in the common areas. so again-> no matter what they bring with them, laptop or minipc, they still using external monitors, external audio output, external keyboard and mouse. Difference between laptop and mini pc is two -> weight/volume it occupy in the cabin bag that is limited by size and 7kg weight. and second -> gaming laptop is still a mobile GPU. it will never match the external desktop GPU by performance. so if you need true desktop performance and still be mobile at the same time. for move every 2-3 months from country to country its the only way for now.
This is the perfect external Watercooled GPU setup because there's enough room behind the GPU mount for pump/res combo with a 240mm rad (rad will require drilling holes to mount standard radiator mounts)
Honestly, I never understood why anyone would get an eGPU instead of a desktop PC due to how expensive they were. But for 99$, with the PCIe 4.0 speed of Oculink it ACTUALLY starts to make A LOT of sense. Let say you purchase- or already own a handheld PC with Oculink; Would it make sense to purchase whole new desktop platform? (Motherboard, CPU, Memory, fans etc) Not to me, I would rather focus all of that money on the GPU instead. Sure, you can still get better CPU performance on a desktop computer, but these handheld PCs are competent enough that I would rather value to use that extra "desktop"-money and purchase a GPU several tiers above my overall budget.
I'm actually looking to replace my full sized pc with a mini and one of these. The reduced power consumption is noticable.
I was thinking this exactly! glad I returned my handheld & gonna keep my eyes peeled for one w Oculink at a reasonable price!
@@udance4ever I just purchased one from GMKteck with a amd ryzen9. Comes with oculink support already. And I believe with two m.2 x4 slots. Oculink should have it's own board and no need an adapter to work over m.2 like most ppl do. I'm looking into getting the 7900xtx over a 4080gtx the price the value is way better
@@richolishis94 which GMKtec model did you get? sounds awesome & love to look into it!
@@richolishis94 I have the same GMKtec machine, for the money it can't be beat! With just the video on the chip I play Borderlands 3 and Tiny Tina's Wonderland with no problems. Just ordered the dock to play with, can hardly wait!
that PSU is criminally adorable
You're criminally adorable bro
@@pepito69 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Minis Forum makes great things!
This is overpowered. Better to see how much mid range cards will lose in performance at this kind of set-up. Wanna buy minisforum bareborn ms-pc. Ty for video :3
These run at x8 PCIe max so the performance loss is only going to be a few % at most.
This would be an immediate buy if it included thunderbolt as well. It would make an excellent transitionary dock.
Great vid, such a shame it doesn’t support thunderbolt 4 or usb4 😢
Thats actually way better than always buying a full pc... i will later swap my pc with a handheld windows device with that e gpu :O
x2 something great about CPU chips are that compared to mobile GPUs, the mobile CPUs have the same (or evento better) performance than desktop CPUs
for example, the z1 extreme is more poewrfull than the ryzen 5600x
@@DienerNoUta To be fair, the Ryzen 5600X is over 4 years old now. The newer 7600 is already faster than the Z1 extreme while still being older.
Appreciate you posting this video ETA Prime.
Why hasn't a company made a very compact external Mobile GPU? I want a really thin laptop, but also a dedicated GPU. I would really like something like a really small external 4080m that looks nice sitting on my desk at a decent price point so I can just turn my Ultrabook in to a gaming laptop when needed. Surely, I'm not the only one? The desktop eGPU are too big and expensive.
If you can live with 20 threads and an A770m (16GB), buying a Serpent Canyon NUC 12 for 6-700 is way cheaper and smaller. A Thunderbolt-box (10yrs old technique) will cost $300+ alone and make even a 4070 ($500) slower (esp. 0.1%) than the NUC in many games. The little A770m (512GB/s VRAM, 120W) is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
@ohwhatworld5851 They do make several, though all are overpriced.
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theres somethinge like onexgpu but its so overpriced
Also the GPD G1
Waiting for mine to arrive 😁
the dock or both?
@@danielgriffith8911 Dock
What i like too see is some kind of dock for handhelds
Thank you for segmenting the Frame Gen performance. It's nice to see the raw performance you can achieve. ♥
Minisforum were thinking outside the box on this one. Sorry... I had to do it.
Thank you for this video, I really needed it.
I'm doing a PC build like this. Using AOSTAR Gem10 w/ Ryzen 7 6800H and Zotac RTX 4060 Ti 16gb. Should be a balanced rig. Wish me luck 👍
@@XXsupervisor don't go with a 4060ti(not good value), either go with a 3060ti or a used RTX 3070
Can't wait for the Thunderbolt 5 version of this.
OCulink will still outperform TB5 in regards to eGPU. The only thing I like about TB5 is the (obvious) better port stability. TB5 has too many negatives though. Sticking with the direct PCIe integration is the way to go. I'm just wondering if Mini-SAS is the future like ASUS is now doing with their new x870e boards. Technically a Mini-SAS can reach 192 Gbps which is insane.
@@jabronilifestyle Oculink and Thunderbolt 5 are incompatible interfaces designed for different use cases. Oculink is intended for internal communication within systems, while TB5 focuses on external connectivity. Additionally, TB5 can deliver up to 240 watts of power, making it suitable for powering devices, whereas Oculink does not provide any power delivery at all. This fundamental difference in purpose and functionality highlights why they can't be used interchangeable
So what is the OCuLink penalty here? how much of the frames we are loosing with this setup? what is scale factor on that? resolution? texture quality? tell us more, please!
And I would love to look how this setup works with handhelds you have. just t have an understanding what could be best possible setup with all limitations and somewhat reasonable spending
Your eyes okay? The entire video shows this.
Wish we got more small form factor 1080ti level options in stand alone gpu form
The 7600M XT ones are, but pricey.
i wish there was an option for an enclosure. i want some protection as well as from dust.
You could always improvise I’m probably gonna find some acrylic box or something when I’m done playing I’ll put that over it
CopperLink will change everything, and likely make an eGPU the default for a lot of people. CopperLink's vastly more durable and faster interface removes all the limitations of an eGPU: very limited connecter service life, hot-plugging, and bandwidth simply go away. Server CopperLink products already exist, so it's an inevitability that CopperLink will replace OcuLink, it's just a matter of when, and without any the current limitation, the benefits of an eGPU become even more apparent: space, power and cooling efficiency, easier cleaning and upgrades, use it across multiple devices, and GPUs are so well made now they don't even need an enclosure, in fact are thermally and noise constrained in most enclosures.
Oculink is dead in the enterprise regardless, PCIE 4 spec never got ratified (as I understand it) because it wasn't stable enough. If copprlink does trickle down to consumer gear I'd be all for it since you could use it for a lot more than just eGPU's, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while if it does happen.
@@nadtz Yes, and OcuLink is a flaky spec and connector as well. While implementation dependent, the connector only has a tiny fraction of the service live of say a USB connector, and in real use, even less -- hopefully this won't start to show itself, and give people a bad taste for eGPU products before CopperLink makes an appearance. CopperLink support on inexpensive laptops and small form factor PCs would be such a boon for all involved.
we can all wait on the future, But it is nice to enjoy the present time as well. Oculink works just fine for "now".
Was super excited for my legion go, then I saw oculink only 😮💨😭
Exactly what I've been waiting for. I want.
How are you connecting it to hand gaming systems like the Lenovo Legion Go
What’s the Wallpaper Engine background you’re using around 5:00?
I usually wait till Amazon has a product in stock.. this was worth ordering from China... simple design for us MiniPC fans.
I hope they make egpu dock with oculink and thunderbolt
aoostar just did for $150.
Since many pcs have 2 usbc 4 tb4 ports cant someone make a dock that uses the bandwith of both for 80gbs?
Did you ever try it with a 2230 M.2 to OCulink adapter? I've tried mine with 2 and it doesn't seem to work with those. Disappointing, since those are probably the easiest way to add OCulink to a mini-PC.
I didn't understand it entirely so far. I Oculink something different from Thunderbolt? Is it part of USB4?
I'd love to have a ThinkPad for instance with a good CPU and fast GPU connection for gaming when home so this looks amazing but having two competing standards doesn't scream comfortable use to me.
i just read about a beelink gpu dock with 600w power supply integrated on videocardz, waiting for video on that
Why? Same specs, except you're stuck with that psu if anything happens... How much?
@@ghostfreckleI mean, it means that the size probably will be smaller than this
Stuck with same mini PC too .
Someone needs to make a thin dedicated power supply just for video cards. Don't need the bulk of a PC power supply.
Pico PSU would be the smallest but depending on the power requirements Flex PSU might be necessary.
Would be awesome to have some kind of dust filter for the eGPU. That way there is hardly any down side of this type of setup (okay, maybe the small performance penalty of around 10%)
I've been thinking about it too. They make a lot of DIY open frame case parts. Most of those would work wrapped in a filter material. Obviously pantyhose would work, but I'd want something more durable. I think there are some decent DIY magnetic filter kits you cut to size.
the DEG1 design is neat and clean. big GPU doesnt look like hanging around about to get tugged by something.
also, for people with oculink supported mini PC and want some desktop gaming performance but wanting to keep the power consumption moderate, they could use the DEG1 with something like RTX 4060 that has a mere around 120 watts of maximum power draw. and still getting desktop level gaming performance. with the mini PC is a mere around 80 watts plus the RTX 4060 it wont even hit over 220 watts in total acumulative power draw. getting desktop gaming performance with nearly half the normal desktop gaming wattages.
Does having the GPU out in the open like that help with cooling?
Are Oculink eGPU Docks working more stable than USB4 / Thunderbolt ones on Mini PCs? What are your experiences? ... my impressions so far with USB4 on Geekom A8 was not that satisfying... occasional system crashes are not uncommon.
I have a similar dock I got from Superbuy. Works great so far. It is a vertical, all black stand and comes with a 800W Power Supply built in. Super easy to set up. All the wires are short and connect without issue, Oculink cable is less than 2 feet.
EG01 H3 800W (12VHPWR graphics card interface)
I would like to someone do a video review on it.
When the hell will there be TB5 docks?
0:55 What's stopping you from putting a larger card in there?
He sounds so calm here not like his other channel
I would want one that is twice as thick but with an integrated power supply built in.
Не могу понять, что за кабель у вас в комплекте, какой у него разъём? Я могу подключить станцию на прямую к моему ноутбуку Lenovo 720s-13ikb?
I just made a really simple mod to my Acer SFX14 to add an Oculink port. Placement is not the best but performance is really nice, this should become more common for laptops.
This is a step closer to having a steam deck or other handheld gaming console that can dock and leverage a GPU
I would really like to see a video that compares as close as possible, mini pc with x specs using oculink with Y GPU to a PC with same X Specs and same Y GPU (direct PCIE). Just to see the FPS loss etc.
How heavy would that be without the massive GPU just a normal GPU like a 3060 for example
I wish ETA would do a video on sunshine/moonlight, using a handheld pc!
I use it almost every day on a Fire HD 10, cheap with a BSP-D8, zero complaints.
@drewnewby yeah i mean if you have a pc with a 4060 equivalent, a handheld pc would be awesome for dicking around the house, no worries about egpus, and you can run your handheld in 15 watt mode so you get crazy battery life too!
@drewnewby ive been holding out till i get my hands on a rog ally or something, i have a samsung galaxy tab s7 fe. I should just get that controller. What the hell am I doing?! Thanks for the idea!
Very cool product
whats the background called you're using in this video?? I have WallpaperEngine, just need the name :)
I've been tempted to buy a mini pc for awhile now...And I have a spare 2080 lying around...Hmmm
I PLAN ON getting that oculuink nvme adapter for my i9 laptop when the next gen gpus release
My request has been heard !!! Perfect ...
Great! Now how to put an Oculink interface on the MS-01?
Can you use the 4070 by playing in directly to your mini PC with a port and then use it to play VR games?
You should try to swap that cpu for 7950x as TECH NOTICE did on his channel. That would be interesting experiment with 4090.
hmmh. can you connect some usb dock to free places in power supply?
Should I be worried about dust if this is not enclosed in a case?
This woukd work well with the Ayaneo flip, which has Oculink port😊
great video as always. I'm waiting for my ms-a1 coming tomorrow end my deg1 coming next weak, the i will pair them with mi xfx rx6900xt for 1440p gaming,. i'll hope the new ryzen 7600x will be supported by the ms-a1, and if it will be this little pc become a real monster.
Bad advice at the end. Frame gen uses vram go at least a 12gb card
This $99 affordable and performant eGPU dock is game changing 👍 and IMO serves as bigger news than this week's AMD 9000 series Zen 5 cpu launch.
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
Egpus were a dream that just fell short with thunderbolt 3. Glad oculink is a thing but too bad tb3 kind of killed egpu thunder
Guess this wouldn't work with a legion go or Rog ally?
Would be great if the dock has extra m.2 slot for ssd
So 4080 super is a perfect fit? With full potential
dock compatibility with mac mini M2 Pro ...thunderbolt 4 ?
I need a thunderbolt version of this
Does it come with the oculink too or just the dock??
Has included the oculink cable in the package?
Whats the start up order then? First power on the Dock and then de mini pc? It will activate the power supply and the gpu when the mini pc starts up?
What laptops have oculink
Awesome... or you could build a cheap AM4 Micro ATX PC, which takes all GPUs as well!
i also have one with minisforum 125H pro. it is real good to work with ollama. i connect to RTX4090 like you.
^ This. He forgot to consider AI workflows.
Is it better to plug hdmi into mini pc or egpu?
would be interesting to see this work with a nano psu and power brick
How would this GPU doc work using a Thumberbold 4 interface with Blender?
So, can this DEG-1 use that 12v converter and a 240-300 watt ac power adapter from your diy egpu build?
Any idea if minisforum may come out with a TB4 / USB4 version of this dock? Would be nice to put an ADT UT3G in something like this
Nintendo should be paying attention to this. They could extend the life of their Switch console with accessories like this.
that's an amazing product
Are there any docks that supports both oculink and thunderbolt?
which is better? this minisforum dock or the beelink dock?
How is this different to any of the basic Oculink SFF-8612 to PCI-E adapters that are out there? Is it simply that it comes with a solid base that makes it easier to use? Or is there some other improvement over the basic adapters?
check out the eg01 h3 with built in 550W/800W 80+ plat psu oculink enclosure, no need to get your own big psu
Is it really ok to have a open dock like this
Why they don't sell some cozy sleeved 8 pin pcie cables for this? Cable management using standard psu wires is always terrible to look in these open air configurations
Do you only plug the pc/handheld to the egpu through oculink & then the egpu to the monitor with hmdi?
but main issue is there letancy vs desktop setup?
I wish they had an expandable enclosure to fit varied card sizes on the dock this. Not a fan of leaving the gpu exposed like this.
Dude, where did you get the moving wallpaper? Looks awesome!