wonderful thing! Completely showing that BIG ATX PC days are over. How easy you can set it to luggage and Fly away to other country and quickly set up your own gaming pc in each place in the world and play and still have performance of big PC. incredible
Seriously doubt anyone would fly around the world with a bulky 4080/4090 (weights 4.5 to 5 pounds btw) and have gaming monitors, gaming keyboard etc. ready at "each place" he travels to :D
@@yibozhao1012 pff. bro, by your skepticism words i already see that you not traveling at all. I travel threw whole Asia. and every good apartments already included in themselves common areas like swimming pool, gym and most important co-working spaces with already set up big monitors and tables with gaming chairs. Only one thing they not included - is the PC. and the 4090 with minipc is not weights too much if you travel 7kg cabin luggage +20kg checked baggage. so yeah. for travel and have powerful PC comparing to ATX size in luggage is very cool.
@@dimacus15 Based on my skepticism maybe you could've concluded that i have been seldom PC-gaming while travelling. To say that i'm not travelling at all would only let one wonder about your abilities of logical thinking. In fact I traveled through the whole Germany and half of China on a bicycle while you're maybe in a gameing chair. Ok, if they all provide 4090-worthy gaming monitors but no PCs, be my guest. But does that really make sense to provide such high-end monitors while all the guests bring with them are laptops with mobile GPU?
This is overpowered. Better to see how much mid range cards will lose in performance at this kind of set-up. Wanna buy minisforum bareborn ms-pc. Ty for video :3
@drewnewby yeah i mean if you have a pc with a 4060 equivalent, a handheld pc would be awesome for dicking around the house, no worries about egpus, and you can run your handheld in 15 watt mode so you get crazy battery life too!
@drewnewby ive been holding out till i get my hands on a rog ally or something, i have a samsung galaxy tab s7 fe. I should just get that controller. What the hell am I doing?! Thanks for the idea!
Are Oculink eGPU Docks working more stable than USB4 / Thunderbolt ones on Mini PCs? What are your experiences? ... my impressions so far with USB4 on Geekom A8 was not that satisfying... occasional system crashes are not uncommon.
It's not only $99. Add another $100+ for the power supply. Just get a real PC and if you want something small get a SFF build like the Fractal Terra. It's the size of a shoebox and can easily fit a 7800x3d along with a 4070 super or 7900xt.
I know that OCulink is faster.. but most of the potential eGPU users probably have a laptop they want to use for gaming. Otherwise you might as well just use a gaming PC.
Are there any OCulink boards that will fit in a standard ATX case? I got a mini AMD gaming PC and want to reuse my old desktop tower case as I don't have space for putting a GPU dock on my desk..
that wont work, cause the oculink cable it self only has so many pci express wire connections. its not like they only hook a few wires, they use all the bus width the cable can support, now if you used 2 cables each using their own pci bus it would get faster, but in reality all they need to do is upgrade the pci bus to gen 5 speeds, and even at 5.0 4x would be faster then 16x gen 3 etc. 5.0 x4 would be native speeds faster then the gpu can even use.
A world where all laptops have oculink ports would be the dream. Usable for ordinary tasks when you're running it portably, and then dock it to a powerhouse GPU in desk mode for the occasional high-end gaming session.
That would be really cool, however as of right now, the capability of OCUlink is very limited to portable use since i guess most eGPU and the laptop doesn't support hotplug and the OCUlink connector itself only has very few reinsertion resistance so for now USB C is the way to go, unless OCUlink made a new revision that push the manufacturer to support hotplug and made the connector much more sturdier
Is there a way to do the same with a CPU or is that still impossible? Would like to see modular PC designs in the future, where you can always plug in the latest CPU, ram stick or even GPU without having to a buy a new motherboard.
@@dstarr3 This is what I am trying to do with handhelds.. powerful setup at home and playable device on the go.. too bad is no thunderbolt this one as legion go doesn’t have oculink
My daughter's computer had an "accident" a while back and I was looking for a cost effective and somewhat portable system for her to use when she goes away for school. I've got this exact setup...sort of.... had some spare parts from her build hanging around. I'm using the MS-A1 with a Ryzen 7 7500F, a 6750XT with the Oculink DEG1, and 32 GB of 4800 DDR5. This setup works really well together. She's super happy with it. It was honestly really easy to build as well.
@@Neopulse00 Lol. Thanks! I have to say that I may have had ulterior motives behind going this route. I'm a bit of a tinkerer and it was a good way to say to my wife "You know what would work really well?" to get the go ahead and get the parts.
@@nicolasguzman4957 It worked without a hitch. I was quite surprised how easy it was honestly. I just made sure that the GPU was powered on first, then tuned on the PC, and it was smooth sailing. The GPU I used was an ASRock Challenger 6750 XT 12GB. Hope that helps.
x2 something great about CPU chips are that compared to mobile GPUs, the mobile CPUs have the same (or evento better) performance than desktop CPUs for example, the z1 extreme is more poewrfull than the ryzen 5600x
Why hasn't a company made a very compact external Mobile GPU? I want a really thin laptop, but also a dedicated GPU. I would really like something like a really small external 4080m that looks nice sitting on my desk at a decent price point so I can just turn my Ultrabook in to a gaming laptop when needed. Surely, I'm not the only one? The desktop eGPU are too big and expensive.
If you can live with 20 threads and an A770m (16GB), buying a Serpent Canyon NUC 12 for 6-700 is way cheaper and smaller. A Thunderbolt-box (10yrs old technique) will cost $300+ alone and make even a 4070 ($500) slower (esp. 0.1%) than the NUC in many games. The little A770m (512GB/s VRAM, 120W) is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
Honestly, I never understood why anyone would get an eGPU instead of a desktop PC due to how expensive they were. But for 99$, with the PCIe 4.0 speed of Oculink it ACTUALLY starts to make A LOT of sense. Let say you purchase- or already own a handheld PC with Oculink; Would it make sense to purchase whole new desktop platform? (Motherboard, CPU, Memory, fans etc) Not to me, I would rather focus all of that money on the GPU instead. Sure, you can still get better CPU performance on a desktop computer, but these handheld PCs are competent enough that I would rather value to use that extra "desktop"-money and purchase a GPU several tiers above my overall budget.
@@udance4ever I just purchased one from GMKteck with a amd ryzen9. Comes with oculink support already. And I believe with two m.2 x4 slots. Oculink should have it's own board and no need an adapter to work over m.2 like most ppl do. I'm looking into getting the 7900xtx over a 4080gtx the price the value is way better
Did you ever try it with a 2230 M.2 to OCulink adapter? I've tried mine with 2 and it doesn't seem to work with those. Disappointing, since those are probably the easiest way to add OCulink to a mini-PC.
CopperLink will change everything, and likely make an eGPU the default for a lot of people. CopperLink's vastly more durable and faster interface removes all the limitations of an eGPU: very limited connecter service life, hot-plugging, and bandwidth simply go away. Server CopperLink products already exist, so it's an inevitability that CopperLink will replace OcuLink, it's just a matter of when, and without any the current limitation, the benefits of an eGPU become even more apparent: space, power and cooling efficiency, easier cleaning and upgrades, use it across multiple devices, and GPUs are so well made now they don't even need an enclosure, in fact are thermally and noise constrained in most enclosures.
Oculink is dead in the enterprise regardless, PCIE 4 spec never got ratified (as I understand it) because it wasn't stable enough. If copprlink does trickle down to consumer gear I'd be all for it since you could use it for a lot more than just eGPU's, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while if it does happen.
@@nadtz Yes, and OcuLink is a flaky spec and connector as well. While implementation dependent, the connector only has a tiny fraction of the service live of say a USB connector, and in real use, even less -- hopefully this won't start to show itself, and give people a bad taste for eGPU products before CopperLink makes an appearance. CopperLink support on inexpensive laptops and small form factor PCs would be such a boon for all involved.
I bought this egpu for my OneXplayer X1 Mini (8840U). It was very easy to setup with a Radeon Card. It was a nightmare to get this to play with my old RTX 3080. When I did get it working with the 3080, Black Myth Wukong ran WAY better than expected getting. Over 100+Fps at 1440p/High Settings. This Egpu dock is BEAUTIFUL
@fmfrequency THIS is the comment I needed to see. I have an Ally X and am looking to try and make that my "one system for all". I've always been a console gamer but I want to be able to replace my PS5 with my Ally X so I can play any and all titles in handheld or docked on my TV without having to buy games twice for different consoles. I'm still learning about eGPU's and how they work but I'm thinking this with an rtx 4060 may get me there. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance 🙏
@@kylevaubel3897 One thing that is nice about thunderbolt egpus is that it is infinitely easier to setup but it doesn't have the bandwidth that oculink does. Just remember that the higher end your card, the more performance potential you lose with thunderbolt. Even though I predominantly own Nvidia GPUs on my devices, I tend to to favor AMD GPUs more for Egpus. Cards like the Radeon 7700 xt or 7800 xt. Great price to performance ratio.
I didn't understand it entirely so far. I Oculink something different from Thunderbolt? Is it part of USB4? I'd love to have a ThinkPad for instance with a good CPU and fast GPU connection for gaming when home so this looks amazing but having two competing standards doesn't scream comfortable use to me.
I think this type of product has extremely narrow target audience. Not many devices do have oculink, so even if you have a relatively new laptop, chances are it won't work. Also... Mini PC + eGPU dock + GPU + PSU.... I mean at this point you probably could build an actual PC for this kind of money.
If you use a handheld console instead of a mini PC it's pretty dope. Like this is actually the best eGPU solution I've seen in terms of being affordable and also not being super sketchy
@@Tommy_The_Gun I could see use for this paired with a decent laptop, I could lug the laptop with me and just plug it to the eGPU at home, only thing limiting that is the oculink
A laptop CPU will inherently bottleneck a better GPU, and then again a far more efficient solution is to have a lean laptop and stream your game onto it from your main rig, at home or away.
I really think this is NOT the way forward. How many people really need small computers with very limited expandability and poor value. Oculink support required to enable the eGPU. How long will Oculink stick around for? Yes I do have an old GTX1080Ti spare, but I think the better value is in a second desktop system with plenty of room for expansion.
Hi Looking to build an eGPU for my xps 13 plus (2023). Would you recommend an RTX4060 or 4070 over thunderbolt 4? Ie would the 4070 be bottlenecked anyway, so better and cheaper to go for a 4060? Many thks
I have an older Intel NUC 7 mini Pc with the 7th Gen i7 (running Linux Mint 22). It has a Thunderbolt 3 port. Does Oculink work with Thunderbolt 3? I want to test some Linux gaming and have a spare Radeon 5600XT GPU laying around. If this is compatible, this would be a good test bed for testing what games work on Linux.
These eGPU docks ... LOSE YOU .... again .... LOSE YOU ... 40% of your performance. Don't take my word for it, research these eGPU docks. Plenty of people show and prove to viewers the performance lose.
This thing gives u 6000 MB/s while a 4090 installed normally will give you 4 times as much (24.000 MB/s). Better build a sff / mini itx pc with the NCASE M1 oder M2.
So what is the OCuLink penalty here? how much of the frames we are loosing with this setup? what is scale factor on that? resolution? texture quality? tell us more, please! And I would love to look how this setup works with handhelds you have. just t have an understanding what could be best possible setup with all limitations and somewhat reasonable spending
stop using "gigs" to refer to gigaBITS, gigs is short-term for gigaBYTES, and absolutely none of these standards run at 40+ gigaBYTES per second, they run at 40+ gigaBITS per second, which is a massive fucking difference
pin me pls oculink* 2.0 (4x 4.0 and 64 Go**/s ) is different of oculink 1.0 (4x3.0 32Go/s) is not hot-swapable but is better than thunderbolt3/4/usb 4 (~40Go/s) and worse (theorical) than USB4 v2***(4x3.0 with particarity for do 80Go/s) and thunderbolt 5 (4x4.0 to 80Go/s) note: **Go/gigaoctet = GB/gigabyte not Gb/gigabit B/Byte or o/octet =8b we use octet here in france and it's technicaly the international metrics but everywhere in the world people use GB and not Go exept in france ***USB4 v2 is normally out but with the weird name of usb like USB 3.2 gen2x2 type c 20Gb/s port IDK if a device use it *oculink has 2 version the 1.0 and the 2.0 (and probaly 3 when PCIe 5.0 will be use in mini pc or laptop) is important to precise this beacause the 1.0 is in pcie 3.0 same perf of th3/4/usb4 and the 2.0 in pci4.0 better than precedent notice the most popular oculink ports is oculink 4x a version 8x exist but has the same problem of USB4 v2 IDK if a device use it sorry it's complicated to read i'm french
Sounds like SCAM. ;-) I am Chip Designer and actually, you should sell this kind of Adapter at least for $300. Doesn't make sense for less at the very moment.
Main appeal of eGPU to me was always option to use it with laptop. Is there a way to connect this oculink egpu dock with laptop that doesn’t have this connector? EDIT: Did a little bit of research and CopprLink is the successor and it seems to be ready for implementation. Any idea if Minisforum is working on implementing it?
kinda expensive for having the same function as a $35 kit just with a plate, but can you test if 4070 ti, 4080, and 7900xt/xtx loose as much performance over pcie 4.0 4x connection
I believe this turns on and off with the computer. So risk of frying the pc if you forget to turn the gpu off first like the cheaper options. That alone is worth it for me. Anything above $100 and I'd say nah. Just wish it had a mesh case of magnetic metal enclosure or something.
@@DeepThinker193 definetley should have a mesh enclosre or something at that price, also no it wont fry your pc if you dont turn the gpu off first I use one of those cheap amazon m.2 to oculink kits in my setup and I keep the gpu always on and turn my laptop on or off whenever, the m.2 port is very safe and hard to go wrong with
THANK YOU for including the price of the product UP FRONT. I love this. Please always do this!
I love it when ETA reviews sub-$100 products
Ya but like alwsys not a review that would have an opinion included..this is a paid commercial like always
100 dollar product with a 2k product so 2100 😂😂😂
@@mart182003 tbh oculink now more accessible with m.2 adapter, ofc old existing hardware would benefit
Is it really $100 product when you need 1000+ worth of GPU and PSU?
@@RazPlayz3not really, a 300$ 4060 and a 100$ corsair rm750 and the egpu dock which results in 500$
wonderful thing! Completely showing that BIG ATX PC days are over. How easy you can set it to luggage and Fly away to other country and quickly set up your own gaming pc in each place in the world and play and still have performance of big PC. incredible
Seriously doubt anyone would fly around the world with a bulky 4080/4090 (weights 4.5 to 5 pounds btw) and have gaming monitors, gaming keyboard etc. ready at "each place" he travels to :D
@@yibozhao1012 pff. bro, by your skepticism words i already see that you not traveling at all. I travel threw whole Asia. and every good apartments already included in themselves common areas like swimming pool, gym and most important co-working spaces with already set up big monitors and tables with gaming chairs. Only one thing they not included - is the PC. and the 4090 with minipc is not weights too much if you travel 7kg cabin luggage +20kg checked baggage. so yeah. for travel and have powerful PC comparing to ATX size in luggage is very cool.
@@dimacus15 Based on my skepticism maybe you could've concluded that i have been seldom PC-gaming while travelling. To say that i'm not travelling at all would only let one wonder about your abilities of logical thinking. In fact I traveled through the whole Germany and half of China on a bicycle while you're maybe in a gameing chair. Ok, if they all provide 4090-worthy gaming monitors but no PCs, be my guest. But does that really make sense to provide such high-end monitors while all the guests bring with them are laptops with mobile GPU?
I feel like this could be the future for PC Gaming and even Artists like myself who need a beefy GPU but don't have the space for a full sized PC
WTAF?! What utter bollocks
Build an ITX system, which not much biger and you get more for your money.
This is overpowered. Better to see how much mid range cards will lose in performance at this kind of set-up. Wanna buy minisforum bareborn ms-pc. Ty for video :3
Great vid, such a shame it doesn’t support thunderbolt 4 or usb4 😢
Give it a couple more years and that kind of setup will be the norm. Why buy a big tower when you can get 80% of you needs with that?.
Get 80% for 120% - yeah, no. It'll be never the norm.
What i like too see is some kind of dock for handhelds
I would want one that is twice as thick but with an integrated power supply built in.
Since many pcs have 2 usbc 4 tb4 ports cant someone make a dock that uses the bandwith of both for 80gbs?
Someone needs to make a thin dedicated power supply just for video cards. Don't need the bulk of a PC power supply.
Pico PSU would be the smallest but depending on the power requirements Flex PSU might be necessary.
When the hell will there be TB5 docks?
I wish ETA would do a video on sunshine/moonlight, using a handheld pc!
I use it almost every day on a Fire HD 10, cheap with a BSP-D8, zero complaints.
@drewnewby yeah i mean if you have a pc with a 4060 equivalent, a handheld pc would be awesome for dicking around the house, no worries about egpus, and you can run your handheld in 15 watt mode so you get crazy battery life too!
@drewnewby ive been holding out till i get my hands on a rog ally or something, i have a samsung galaxy tab s7 fe. I should just get that controller. What the hell am I doing?! Thanks for the idea!
Eta definitely needs to find a way to mod this and add an xg mobile port for og ally 💯
I would totally buy this dock and throw in a 4080 super in it.
Are Oculink eGPU Docks working more stable than USB4 / Thunderbolt ones on Mini PCs? What are your experiences? ... my impressions so far with USB4 on Geekom A8 was not that satisfying... occasional system crashes are not uncommon.
Waiting for the AOOSTAR dock with built in power supply for $149. Much slimmer and better value!
Looks nice, but an extra $50 for a huntkey 400 W psu isn't great.
how is it better when you dont add your OWN power supply?
plus if you get a Minisforum mini... this dock is tested with it.
How are you connecting it to hand gaming systems like the Lenovo Legion Go
It's not only $99. Add another $100+ for the power supply. Just get a real PC and if you want something small get a SFF build like the Fractal Terra. It's the size of a shoebox and can easily fit a 7800x3d along with a 4070 super or 7900xt.
I know that OCulink is faster.. but most of the potential eGPU users probably have a laptop they want to use for gaming. Otherwise you might as well just use a gaming PC.
My request has been heard !!! Perfect ...
I got one, it is really cool
Cool device, but $100 for PCIe-Oculink adapter without PSU is too much
I love this but it needs usb c lightning
Do you like degs? I like degs!
that's an amazing product
OcuLink can make gaming laptops obsolete. Bring oculink to amd laptops now!
How would this GPU doc work using a Thumberbold 4 interface with Blender?
but main issue is there letancy vs desktop setup?
I am going to set up an egpu for the ally x, do you guys recommend 4070it super?
Where are the USB4 v2.0 eGPU docks?
what it the live desktop wallpaper used ?
My graphic card didn't need external power. Do I still need an external psu for that dock?
I want to get this, but I'd like a sff PC that supports occulink with a beefier CPU.
so the UM890?
@@danielgriffith8911 oh look at that!!! thanks
Are there any OCulink boards that will fit in a standard ATX case? I got a mini AMD gaming PC and want to reuse my old desktop tower case as I don't have space for putting a GPU dock on my desk..
SolidWorks 2024?????????????????
Please show in the title it is Oculink and don’t USB-C
Why not just buy a PCIE 1X to 16X Riser for the GPU? Its only $9.99
that wont work, cause the oculink cable it self only has so many pci express wire connections. its not like they only hook a few wires, they use all the bus width the cable can support, now if you used 2 cables each using their own pci bus it would get faster, but in reality all they need to do is upgrade the pci bus to gen 5 speeds, and even at 5.0 4x would be faster then 16x gen 3 etc. 5.0 x4 would be native speeds faster then the gpu can even use.
@@turboimport95 Makes sense thanks for the clarification
So will this work for laptops?
3:53 world first ETA Prime beard reveal.
We should have known
OMG ! That explains everything now!!!!!
When's the face reveal! I always wonder if the image I've made for people in my head matches up to real life.
😨
we just had him on the retro handhelds podcast if you want an actual face reveal
A world where all laptops have oculink ports would be the dream. Usable for ordinary tasks when you're running it portably, and then dock it to a powerhouse GPU in desk mode for the occasional high-end gaming session.
yeah i wish all handheld and laptop have this or at least easily accesible extra m.2 like wm2
That would be really cool, however as of right now, the capability of OCUlink is very limited to portable use since i guess most eGPU and the laptop doesn't support hotplug and the OCUlink connector itself only has very few reinsertion resistance so for now USB C is the way to go, unless OCUlink made a new revision that push the manufacturer to support hotplug and made the connector much more sturdier
Is there a way to do the same with a CPU or is that still impossible? Would like to see modular PC designs in the future, where you can always plug in the latest CPU, ram stick or even GPU without having to a buy a new motherboard.
@@dstarr3 This is what I am trying to do with handhelds.. powerful setup at home and playable device on the go.. too bad is no thunderbolt this one as legion go doesn’t have oculink
Thunderbolt5 will be the better option when better adopted. Much more bandwidth, hotplugable . Power delivery etc.
that PSU is criminally adorable
You're criminally adorable bro
@@pepito69 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Minisforum were thinking outside the box on this one. Sorry... I had to do it.
My daughter's computer had an "accident" a while back and I was looking for a cost effective and somewhat portable system for her to use when she goes away for school. I've got this exact setup...sort of.... had some spare parts from her build hanging around. I'm using the MS-A1 with a Ryzen 7 7500F, a 6750XT with the Oculink DEG1, and 32 GB of 4800 DDR5. This setup works really well together. She's super happy with it. It was honestly really easy to build as well.
Super Dad to the rescue
@@Neopulse00 Lol. Thanks! I have to say that I may have had ulterior motives behind going this route. I'm a bit of a tinkerer and it was a good way to say to my wife "You know what would work really well?" to get the go ahead and get the parts.
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Did you have any kind of problem with the amd card? Because all reviews use nvdia. Im planning a similar build like yours
@@nicolasguzman4957 It worked without a hitch. I was quite surprised how easy it was honestly. I just made sure that the GPU was powered on first, then tuned on the PC, and it was smooth sailing. The GPU I used was an ASRock Challenger 6750 XT 12GB. Hope that helps.
Thats actually way better than always buying a full pc... i will later swap my pc with a handheld windows device with that e gpu :O
x2 something great about CPU chips are that compared to mobile GPUs, the mobile CPUs have the same (or evento better) performance than desktop CPUs
for example, the z1 extreme is more poewrfull than the ryzen 5600x
@@DienerNoUta To be fair, the Ryzen 5600X is over 4 years old now. The newer 7600 is already faster than the Z1 extreme while still being older.
Finally. Im waiting for this egpu dock in this channel
Can't wait for the Thunderbolt 5 version of this.
Why hasn't a company made a very compact external Mobile GPU? I want a really thin laptop, but also a dedicated GPU. I would really like something like a really small external 4080m that looks nice sitting on my desk at a decent price point so I can just turn my Ultrabook in to a gaming laptop when needed. Surely, I'm not the only one? The desktop eGPU are too big and expensive.
If you can live with 20 threads and an A770m (16GB), buying a Serpent Canyon NUC 12 for 6-700 is way cheaper and smaller. A Thunderbolt-box (10yrs old technique) will cost $300+ alone and make even a 4070 ($500) slower (esp. 0.1%) than the NUC in many games. The little A770m (512GB/s VRAM, 120W) is a wolf in sheep's clothes.
@ohwhatworld5851 They do make several, though all are overpriced.
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theres somethinge like onexgpu but its so overpriced
Also the GPD G1
Honestly, I never understood why anyone would get an eGPU instead of a desktop PC due to how expensive they were. But for 99$, with the PCIe 4.0 speed of Oculink it ACTUALLY starts to make A LOT of sense. Let say you purchase- or already own a handheld PC with Oculink; Would it make sense to purchase whole new desktop platform? (Motherboard, CPU, Memory, fans etc) Not to me, I would rather focus all of that money on the GPU instead. Sure, you can still get better CPU performance on a desktop computer, but these handheld PCs are competent enough that I would rather value to use that extra "desktop"-money and purchase a GPU several tiers above my overall budget.
I'm actually looking to replace my full sized pc with a mini and one of these. The reduced power consumption is noticable.
I was thinking this exactly! glad I returned my handheld & gonna keep my eyes peeled for one w Oculink at a reasonable price!
@@udance4ever I just purchased one from GMKteck with a amd ryzen9. Comes with oculink support already. And I believe with two m.2 x4 slots. Oculink should have it's own board and no need an adapter to work over m.2 like most ppl do. I'm looking into getting the 7900xtx over a 4080gtx the price the value is way better
@@richolishis94 which GMKtec model did you get? sounds awesome & love to look into it!
Did you ever try it with a 2230 M.2 to OCulink adapter? I've tried mine with 2 and it doesn't seem to work with those. Disappointing, since those are probably the easiest way to add OCulink to a mini-PC.
CopperLink will change everything, and likely make an eGPU the default for a lot of people. CopperLink's vastly more durable and faster interface removes all the limitations of an eGPU: very limited connecter service life, hot-plugging, and bandwidth simply go away. Server CopperLink products already exist, so it's an inevitability that CopperLink will replace OcuLink, it's just a matter of when, and without any the current limitation, the benefits of an eGPU become even more apparent: space, power and cooling efficiency, easier cleaning and upgrades, use it across multiple devices, and GPUs are so well made now they don't even need an enclosure, in fact are thermally and noise constrained in most enclosures.
Oculink is dead in the enterprise regardless, PCIE 4 spec never got ratified (as I understand it) because it wasn't stable enough. If copprlink does trickle down to consumer gear I'd be all for it since you could use it for a lot more than just eGPU's, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it takes a while if it does happen.
@@nadtz Yes, and OcuLink is a flaky spec and connector as well. While implementation dependent, the connector only has a tiny fraction of the service live of say a USB connector, and in real use, even less -- hopefully this won't start to show itself, and give people a bad taste for eGPU products before CopperLink makes an appearance. CopperLink support on inexpensive laptops and small form factor PCs would be such a boon for all involved.
we can all wait on the future, But it is nice to enjoy the present time as well. Oculink works just fine for "now".
Не могу понять, что за кабель у вас в комплекте, какой у него разъём? Я могу подключить станцию на прямую к моему ноутбуку Lenovo 720s-13ikb?
Was super excited for my legion go, then I saw oculink only 😮💨😭
I bought this egpu for my OneXplayer X1 Mini (8840U). It was very easy to setup with a Radeon Card. It was a nightmare to get this to play with my old RTX 3080. When I did get it working with the 3080, Black Myth Wukong ran WAY better than expected getting. Over 100+Fps at 1440p/High Settings. This Egpu dock is BEAUTIFUL
@fmfrequency THIS is the comment I needed to see. I have an Ally X and am looking to try and make that my "one system for all". I've always been a console gamer but I want to be able to replace my PS5 with my Ally X so I can play any and all titles in handheld or docked on my TV without having to buy games twice for different consoles. I'm still learning about eGPU's and how they work but I'm thinking this with an rtx 4060 may get me there. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance 🙏
@@kylevaubel3897 One thing that is nice about thunderbolt egpus is that it is infinitely easier to setup but it doesn't have the bandwidth that oculink does. Just remember that the higher end your card, the more performance potential you lose with thunderbolt. Even though I predominantly own Nvidia GPUs on my devices, I tend to to favor AMD GPUs more for Egpus. Cards like the Radeon 7700 xt or 7800 xt. Great price to performance ratio.
Is it working to all kind of GPU? like affordable GPUs, not like the one on video 🥲😅
I also have onexplayer 2 device!
I didn't understand it entirely so far. I Oculink something different from Thunderbolt? Is it part of USB4?
I'd love to have a ThinkPad for instance with a good CPU and fast GPU connection for gaming when home so this looks amazing but having two competing standards doesn't scream comfortable use to me.
Minis Forum makes great things!
This would be an immediate buy if it included thunderbolt as well. It would make an excellent transitionary dock.
I think this type of product has extremely narrow target audience. Not many devices do have oculink, so even if you have a relatively new laptop, chances are it won't work. Also... Mini PC + eGPU dock + GPU + PSU.... I mean at this point you probably could build an actual PC for this kind of money.
If you use a handheld console instead of a mini PC it's pretty dope. Like this is actually the best eGPU solution I've seen in terms of being affordable and also not being super sketchy
@@Tommy_The_Gun I could see use for this paired with a decent laptop, I could lug the laptop with me and just plug it to the eGPU at home, only thing limiting that is the oculink
A laptop CPU will inherently bottleneck a better GPU, and then again a far more efficient solution is to have a lean laptop and stream your game onto it from your main rig, at home or away.
I hope they make egpu dock with oculink and thunderbolt
Waiting for mine to arrive 😁
the dock or both?
@@danielgriffith8911 Dock
i just read about a beelink gpu dock with 600w power supply integrated on videocardz, waiting for video on that
Why? Same specs, except you're stuck with that psu if anything happens... How much?
@@ghostfreckleI mean, it means that the size probably will be smaller than this
Stuck with same mini PC too .
First company to come in with a $150 TB4/USB4 eGPU dock will be SO rich.
Does having the GPU out in the open like that help with cooling?
Wish we got more small form factor 1080ti level options in stand alone gpu form
The 7600M XT ones are, but pricey.
I've been tempted to buy a mini pc for awhile now...And I have a spare 2080 lying around...Hmmm
I really think this is NOT the way forward. How many people really need small computers with very limited expandability and poor value. Oculink support required to enable the eGPU. How long will Oculink stick around for? Yes I do have an old GTX1080Ti spare, but I think the better value is in a second desktop system with plenty of room for expansion.
What’s the Wallpaper Engine background you’re using around 5:00?
steamdeck 2 must have oculink
No
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@@oo--7714🤡🤡
Should 🙌
I’m using my og steam deck as a mini pc with a tweak version of windows 11. Been happy with it.
Hi
Looking to build an eGPU for my xps 13 plus (2023). Would you recommend an RTX4060 or 4070 over thunderbolt 4? Ie would the 4070 be bottlenecked anyway, so better and cheaper to go for a 4060?
Many thks
I have an older Intel NUC 7 mini Pc with the 7th Gen i7 (running Linux Mint 22). It has a Thunderbolt 3 port. Does Oculink work with Thunderbolt 3? I want to test some Linux gaming and have a spare Radeon 5600XT GPU laying around. If this is compatible, this would be a good test bed for testing what games work on Linux.
I usually wait till Amazon has a product in stock.. this was worth ordering from China... simple design for us MiniPC fans.
You should try to swap that cpu for 7950x as TECH NOTICE did on his channel. That would be interesting experiment with 4090.
These eGPU docks ... LOSE YOU .... again .... LOSE YOU ... 40% of your performance. Don't take my word for it, research these eGPU docks. Plenty of people show and prove to viewers the performance lose.
My minipc doesn't have occulink or usb4 but it has dual m.2. is there an occulink to m.2 adapter working for this?
This thing gives u 6000 MB/s while a 4090 installed normally will give you 4 times as much (24.000 MB/s). Better build a sff / mini itx pc with the NCASE M1 oder M2.
So what is the OCuLink penalty here? how much of the frames we are loosing with this setup? what is scale factor on that? resolution? texture quality? tell us more, please!
And I would love to look how this setup works with handhelds you have. just t have an understanding what could be best possible setup with all limitations and somewhat reasonable spending
Your eyes okay? The entire video shows this.
What laptops have oculink
stop using "gigs" to refer to gigaBITS, gigs is short-term for gigaBYTES, and absolutely none of these standards run at 40+ gigaBYTES per second, they run at 40+ gigaBITS per second, which is a massive fucking difference
pin me pls
oculink* 2.0 (4x 4.0 and 64 Go**/s ) is different of oculink 1.0 (4x3.0 32Go/s) is not hot-swapable but is better than thunderbolt3/4/usb 4 (~40Go/s) and worse (theorical) than USB4 v2***(4x3.0 with particarity for do 80Go/s) and thunderbolt 5 (4x4.0 to 80Go/s)
note:
**Go/gigaoctet = GB/gigabyte not Gb/gigabit B/Byte or o/octet =8b we use octet here in france and it's technicaly the international metrics but everywhere in the world people use GB and not Go exept in france
***USB4 v2 is normally out but with the weird name of usb like USB 3.2 gen2x2 type c 20Gb/s port IDK if a device use it
*oculink has 2 version the 1.0 and the 2.0 (and probaly 3 when PCIe 5.0 will be use in mini pc or laptop) is important to precise this beacause the 1.0 is in pcie 3.0 same perf of th3/4/usb4 and the 2.0 in pci4.0 better than precedent notice the most popular oculink ports is oculink 4x a version 8x exist but has the same problem of USB4 v2 IDK if a device use it
sorry it's complicated to read i'm french
I wonder, is there any option to disable the external gpu while it is connected to the mini PC? So it doesn't waste electricity
whats the background called you're using in this video?? I have WallpaperEngine, just need the name :)
RTX5090 with Thunderbolt 5 and 2025's gaming laptops. Can't wait!
Sounds like SCAM. ;-) I am Chip Designer and actually, you should sell this kind of Adapter at least for $300. Doesn't make sense for less at the very moment.
Main appeal of eGPU to me was always option to use it with laptop.
Is there a way to connect this oculink egpu dock with laptop that doesn’t have this connector?
EDIT: Did a little bit of research and CopprLink is the successor and it seems to be ready for implementation. Any idea if Minisforum is working on implementing it?
Newb question: Would a Flex PSU work with this dock? I figure the size of a Flex PSU would be perfect.
kinda expensive for having the same function as a $35 kit just with a plate, but can you test if 4070 ti, 4080, and 7900xt/xtx loose as much performance over pcie 4.0 4x connection
I believe this turns on and off with the computer. So risk of frying the pc if you forget to turn the gpu off first like the cheaper options. That alone is worth it for me. Anything above $100 and I'd say nah. Just wish it had a mesh case of magnetic metal enclosure or something.
@@DeepThinker193 definetley should have a mesh enclosre or something at that price, also no it wont fry your pc if you dont turn the gpu off first I use one of those cheap amazon m.2 to oculink kits in my setup and I keep the gpu always on and turn my laptop on or off whenever, the m.2 port is very safe and hard to go wrong with
Egpus were a dream that just fell short with thunderbolt 3. Glad oculink is a thing but too bad tb3 kind of killed egpu thunder
over 450W? wow. no wonder y'all talk about electricity billz & space heaters!
Can you use the 4070 by playing in directly to your mini PC with a port and then use it to play VR games?
Why wouldn't you recommend going with the RTX 4090 over Oculink?
dock compatibility with mac mini M2 Pro ...thunderbolt 4 ?
I mean this is cool and all, but why not just build a SFF mini itx pc? Is it cause the 4090 wouldn't fit?
my interest for egpu dropped when I've discovered how well parsec and steam link work
Do you have any control over the card in AMD Adrenalin when connected through the Oculink cable? Thank you
Exactly what I've been waiting for. I want.
We need pcie 5 with 4 lanes or pcie4 with 8 lanes for 4080 gpu. Otherwise u lose performance
Will it work with laptop??
should with a laptop with an Oculink port..
@@danielgriffith8911 ohh ic i will get a laptop next year with oculink port ig
Or you should add m2 to oculink adapter
@@balmashev93
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Yet they didnt add oculink to the minisforum v3 tablet smh 😒
Noob question here, can this dock be used in a laptop via pcie slot?
Wish i could ship to my address. Website is funky.