FFXIV: 5 Advanced Tanking Tips to Make You a GREAT Tank!

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  • Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
  • With the influx of new players in FFXIV Shadowbringers due to Asmongold's huge FF14 boom, I would like to share 5 advanced tanking tips that I believe can make you a GREAT tank. I hope these help you!
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    0:00 Intro
    0:20 Tip 1
    3:44 Tip 2
    5:06 Tip 3
    6:02 Tip 4
    7:41 Tip 5
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  • @lampz7857
    @lampz7857 3 роки тому +283

    Oh I've been playing the game on and off for awhile and I'm a white mage I always put regen on the tank at the start before pulls and never realized that's why I take aggro when they use provoke so thanks for the tip there.

    • @miyuden4118
      @miyuden4118 3 роки тому +15

      You can use that shield thing, don't remember the name.
      Before the pull ofc. that doesn't give you aggro but gives the Tank a tiny shield.
      As Tank I usually click the regen off my bar when I get it before pull to avoid having to run back and forth to gather aggro from all mobs.

    • @miketinkler79
      @miketinkler79 3 роки тому +18

      Yeah divine benison the start of pull. Regen when tank stops. Then 600 holys. Rinse and repeat

    • @FirelighttheKing
      @FirelighttheKing 3 роки тому +21

      It’s fine to use it during a pull (and in fact I find it handy cause it means that I soak some damage and then don’t need to heal the tank as much), but you do need to make sure that you run straight to the tank if you do this, so that the tank can easily pick it up. You just need to make sure that you’re not making the tank run around like a headless chicken

    • @miyuden4118
      @miyuden4118 3 роки тому +6

      @@FirelighttheKing That works actually too. I for myself just feel like a shit Tank if others get dmg from something that is not AOE and it bugs me. But as long as you survive it and bring the mobs directly to the tank so that his AOE's get the mobs off you easily it is a viable option. Looks dirty but it works.

    • @ryno4ever433
      @ryno4ever433 3 роки тому +4

      Honestly though if you get aggro, they're shit. It's fine for you to precast regen. Pulling with provoke is not the only way and is such a minor time optimization that's it's completely unnecessary. If the tank times his aoe correctly, you will very briefly get aggro, but the tank will have it again before the mobs get anywhere near you.

  • @tristan4624
    @tristan4624 2 роки тому +40

    Very good advice that I’ll be using as a fresh 80 tank. But more importantly there are a million guide videos out there, what separates them is clarity and conciseness. You do an excellent job of getting to the point without rambling or adding anything confusing. You are very clear in your explanations and offer easy to understand examples. Great video 👍

    • @NamesLynx
      @NamesLynx  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks so much, I appreciate it

  • @ashitakaharuo
    @ashitakaharuo 3 роки тому +59

    i'm happy to see that i, a mediocre tank, do some things correctly! also learned to do more things better. thank you!

    • @DekkarJr
      @DekkarJr 3 роки тому +6

      Perhaps you are more than mediocre?:) Perhaps you are:
      Above Average!?

  • @Andrew-H478
    @Andrew-H478 3 роки тому +53

    Had no idea about backwards Overpower. This is huge. Thanks!

    • @Spritus3241
      @Spritus3241 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah I learned a lot in one moment things I never considered about overpower as I typically treat it as the worst tank aoe skill in pulling purely because while mythril tempest alone doesn't do much damage at all it at least pulls like the other tank pulls.
      The only thing I could see getting in the way of this new overpower tech is my auto-lock I use to easy strafe and turn bosses. Because of the lock the camera might fix weird and disorientate my run.

    • @90Rush
      @90Rush 3 роки тому +1

      Another way is just mithril tempest. You do lost some damage by not comboing it though.

  • @chriskarpetas
    @chriskarpetas 3 роки тому +21

    #3 is a huge pet peeve of mine when I'm on WHM. I've seen way too many tanks do wall to wall pulls, use mitigations while I'm chain stunning the packs and after 3 Holy casts the mitigations have fallen off and their ass is on the menu. If you see a White Mage sprinting right behind you during the pulls, hold off on the mitigations until you are below 50-60% health. If the healer is lagging behind for whatever reason, feel free to pop your CDs according to your judgement to get a breathing room until the first Holy hits and the regens start ticking.

    • @crowdemon_archives
      @crowdemon_archives Рік тому +1

      On another note, I've sometimes seen WHM not Holy spam in a dungeon so there's that 😅

    • @kumoko3728
      @kumoko3728 Рік тому

      Tell that to the WHM running behnd you ONLY USING GLARE

  • @SeamusTreacy
    @SeamusTreacy 3 роки тому +68

    lynx kameli

  • @koopakape
    @koopakape 2 роки тому +40

    The mob pulling tips were excellent and apply even to lower level content and are nice and digestible for newer tanks (or ones like me stuck in lower content hell while constantly getting distracted for hundreds of hours), but once you get to the boss facing stuff it goes way over my head and seems to be about a million mini-rules that will be different for each and every later-end boss and depends solely on your own experience over many, many times fighting the boss yourself, which is too much for ME with quite a bit more experience than the newbies coming in, so idk. I guess the basic little tidbits of 'face it north unless it's doing an attack where it faces another direction' is okay enough to implement for now, though

  • @mohbar4198
    @mohbar4198 3 роки тому +22

    Much love for that bit about boss orientation. I always wondered whether or not it'd be less stressful to just keep the boss facing in a certain direction they turned for simplicity's sake for the melees

  • @irxess
    @irxess 3 роки тому +57

    This taught me how to be a better healer xD

    • @Rhodair
      @Rhodair 2 роки тому +2

      lol same, I'm just reaching HW content and finding out overhealing causes additional emnity was great to learn

    • @mosley3485
      @mosley3485 2 роки тому +4

      Learning how to tank will make you a better healer.
      Learning how to heal will make you a better tank.

  • @pointblank6777
    @pointblank6777 3 роки тому +14

    lynx, you're a legend man very knowledgeable. I have just been tanking for roughly a month and loving it!

  • @hopeishome1916
    @hopeishome1916 3 роки тому +9

    Omggg yesss I totally agree with not re-turning the boss every time. And it’s not just melee that will thank you for it. I had an atrocious thok ast thok run as a blm when the tank would always re-turn the boss after every slaughter mechanic to face true north even though the entire raid had already adjusted to his new back position. I had my leylines down even and the tank just spun the boss right back at me and I ate all his cleaves. It was so hard to commit to a cast when the tank was being so unpredictable :(
    Also I was the astro for your dungeon run of Heroes’ gauntlet and I appreciated your tanking a lot. 🙏

  • @TKGPYT
    @TKGPYT 3 роки тому +20

    3:35 You can still do this with standard controls if you hold the face-camera button before attacking. You just have to make sure you're turning the camera while you do it to instantly snap back forwards; jumping makes it more free.

    • @nonfatkibbles
      @nonfatkibbles 3 роки тому +3

      What I found in my like first 300 hrs of playing is for me if i hold right click (which turns the character) and just jiggle the camera very slightly back and forth while attacking and running, youll still do the attack and be running in the same direction and not have to turn backwards

  • @Pie_Otter
    @Pie_Otter 3 роки тому

    I love videos like this. A lot of videos repeat the same information and seem to miss on the little details that make a big difference, but this video hits on some of those small yet important details!

  • @jluzin
    @jluzin 2 роки тому

    the backwards overpower and provoke tricks were news to me. Appreciate the tips. Also adore how the intro is only 20 seconds lol. These videos get right to it and its appreciated.

  • @zodiark93
    @zodiark93 3 роки тому +10

    Those are useful tips. I learned them alone during my first year on FF14, but for new players those are gold. Expecially the "keep the boss firm, don't move around". For Asmongold, during his Garuda extreme he learned it a bit, but during his Titan HM... OMG! He was moving around and moving his camera like a crazy fidget spinner. It was a giant headache for all the viewers.

  • @MetroidFission
    @MetroidFission 3 роки тому +7

    3:28 I play on Standard and do this, all you have to do is apply the wiggle trick you would usually use for Gaze attacks while running. Wiggle your camera and hold right-click while pressing Overpower and you won't turn around.

    • @Trollfax
      @Trollfax 3 роки тому

      Checked the comments to say this as well

  • @Teletravis
    @Teletravis 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for this! Learned a lot. hopefully you'll continue to upload guides and contents. ♥

  • @apex403
    @apex403 3 роки тому +1

    Happy you're making XIV content again Lynx. Glad you're back

  • @Handledeeznuts89
    @Handledeeznuts89 3 роки тому +2

    Brand new tank here. Only been playing about a month and I just came from your optimal video. The Information you’ve provided is invaluable. It’s helped me quite a bit, even though I’m still in arr dungeons. The part that resonated the most with me in that video, is what you said at the end. DONT BE AFRAID TO FAIL! That is easily some of the best advice I’ve heard thus far. You’ve earned my sub good sir.

    • @RicardoSantos-oz3uj
      @RicardoSantos-oz3uj 4 місяці тому

      People are much more forgiving in ARR.
      They get to be assholes at the end game.
      This is because that at the end they have an idea how the game is "supposed" to be played. And don't like when anyone play on any other form. Or when anyone makes a mistake.

  • @PanDania
    @PanDania 3 роки тому +8

    Great and informative video, I hope more people tank smarter and don't just unga bunga! \o/
    I think another tip to add in as well is using Stun as a mitigation skill when you don't have a WHM in the party. Use it especially on an enemy in the pack that has the most HP (so it doesn't die in the middle of the stun duration) to get to most effectiveness out of the whole duration. Do not stun telegraphed AoE ability that you can easily walk out of because during the duration of the cast, it is not doing any auto attacks on you, it's basically downtime for them. Be smart on when and how you use stun.

    • @gazza7693
      @gazza7693 3 роки тому

      Some players I have met don't even put their stuns on their hotbars because they think stuns are a waste of GCD and don't use them, crazy right?

  • @darshawnhill9823
    @darshawnhill9823 3 роки тому

    Thanks this actually helped me as a 65 dark/pld/ war I usually turn boss back after directionals. The more you know right 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @golvmoppski
    @golvmoppski 3 роки тому

    you don't know how happy i am to see this

  • @PauloLz
    @PauloLz 3 роки тому +15

    I want to do savage/ultimates as a tank or healer, seeing your videos are so incredibly helpfull! But... It shows how complex it can be at the same time! I feel like my tanksiety is getting worse! Lmao

    • @pipe-bomb-eater
      @pipe-bomb-eater 3 роки тому +4

      Definitely ease yourself in, remember everyone starts somewhere
      I started playing a bit over a year ago and it's definitely a lot to learn
      But easier than you'd think
      I crushed this last tier and am starting alexander ultimate
      You can do it!

    • @jedahaw
      @jedahaw 3 роки тому

      I'm playing trial version, I'm about lvl40+ now? just did a Lv38 dungeon and i got the team wiped. =( the anxiety is making me stop playing the game, lol. DPSes are so much easier to play. (Thief Lv29? I think.)
      I'm playing marauder/warrior, because I love that armor in the cinematic cutscene. (Wish I could flip the visor down though, didn't put much care into the design of my character.)

    • @jacobiencole
      @jacobiencole 3 роки тому +2

      Best advice I have for new player's- don't worry about dying or wiping
      Wiping/dying in ff14 is a rite of passage, and is something so common that even the most experienced tank/healer will still experience a good ol surprise death every now and again. So dont worry about dying and just have fun learning your job.

    • @uberpinkwarrior
      @uberpinkwarrior 3 роки тому

      @@jedahaw I'm a vet who has played for ages. If you need any advice or tips or anything, feel free to ask! I'll happily give tips on any job in the game (except drg, because I do not like playing drg and therefore know hilariously little about it comparatively)

    • @maxrusty3596
      @maxrusty3596 2 роки тому

      @Dizzy Gear I feel like ur comment is actually the dunningkruger effect because u literally just wanted to flex and show u know what that means when what this guy was talkijg about was simply showing actual humility and admiting hes not very good and is backing away from the idea of tanking when all he's gotta do is keep gaining experience. Nothing to do with thinking he's much smarter than he actually is. And this my friend is called irony. But hey maybe u jus learned that term and wanted to use it can't blame ya.

  • @iomoonwalker
    @iomoonwalker 2 місяці тому

    Just switched to GNB main and this was super clear & helpful!! thank you!!

  • @7secondstiltheend160
    @7secondstiltheend160 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the tip about regen from a healer, helped a lot

  • @gLobbZ
    @gLobbZ 3 роки тому

    My favorite youtuber, love you lynx, your videos old and new have molded me into the WAR I am today

  • @GoBzi
    @GoBzi 2 роки тому +1

    Great video, thanks! Just a quick tip, if you reference a video always have it in the description. Most people don't even see the card that pops for a few seconds, so they wont click it. As it is right now, I had to watch this video and then go back, find the timestamp that the card pops, and click on it. Also, bear in mind that UA-cam's algorithm promotes videos that include UA-cam links in their descriptions (rather than 3rd party) as if I click on another UA-cam click -> I have more interaction with the platform -> more money for UA-cam -> more money for you.

    • @NamesLynx
      @NamesLynx  2 роки тому

      Oh yea that's a good idea, I will start doing that from now on

  • @KrimsonButterfly
    @KrimsonButterfly Рік тому +1

    This was really helpful as tank isn't my primary, but decided to max out all classes and am tanking for the first time.

  • @jdubby654
    @jdubby654 2 роки тому +3

    As a tank that's been going strong now for two months all I can say is you're a god send to this community! I've increased my efficiency and output with all your guides! Keep it up man thank you so much for all these guides!

  • @nefariouspersephone9447
    @nefariouspersephone9447 2 роки тому

    this was super helpful. i had no idea provoke could he used that way for mob gathering. this is great advice

  • @uthoryan9151
    @uthoryan9151 2 роки тому

    Hey man just wanted to give you thanks for these guides, been mostly dps main but trying gunbreaker made me really like and get in to tanking and these guides have been very helpful. Tryin to get better and will probably head in to endwalker as tank :)

  • @HerrTikTok
    @HerrTikTok 2 роки тому

    Thx, good info and great tips I haven't seen other places so I've subbed to take advantage of your wisdom sir.

  • @hennyzhi2261
    @hennyzhi2261 2 роки тому +1

    Thank for the tips. I've been going through the game blind as a tank (just recently beat ARR) and as a first time player. It's both anxiety provoking and rewarding. It's a weird feeling, but I just hope the experienced people weren't too annoyed by my dungeon navigation.

  • @ai2802
    @ai2802 2 роки тому

    Great advice! Want to start playing this game soon and Tanking looks to be a lot of fun!

  • @KevinMCable
    @KevinMCable 2 роки тому +2

    In refute: Tip#1 You can use your ranged attack (Tomahawk, Unmend, Sheild Lob, etc.) Then weave provoke, then Aoe for a very solid lead while intercepting the healer or dps. It should all fit in provided you are at most in peloton. You might need to stagger step if sprinting.
    Tip 2: Solid AF
    Tip 3: Your WHM may prioritize applying Dia or Stone at the begining. THis doesnt make them just a cure bot, but is a valid tut to you precasting TBN, to then move into the Holy phase , while maximizing your dps as well (spoiler: this is actually suboptimal. Holy OP)
    Tip 4 : Almost always solidus! Don't be afraid to experiment. They don't always tell you about completely dodgeable mechanics in the guides. Sometimes dodgeing slightly out of or running very far away from a mechanic as a tank will completely avoid or cancel a mechanic. Even raid wide damage.
    Tip 5: The golden rule.

  • @webby8005
    @webby8005 2 роки тому +1

    Hey I was hoping I could make a suggestion. I noticed you put Tip 1 to 5 and setup the links to the times in your video, which is fantastic! I was thinking instead of tip 1 to 5, could you name the tips? For instance, tip 1 would be Pulling tip, tip 2 = Death balls etc. This way there would be consistency with the mechanic names and then people can use them or understand them, in game, when others mention them. Amazing video tho, this has been so helpful!

  • @x3onx0x00
    @x3onx0x00 3 роки тому

    yo easy sub! got me in the first minute of the video about establishing aggro on packs. i did not know that provoke on one enemy in a pack would pull the group. i thought you would have to hit all of them in order to pull aggro, or gain los on the add while in tank stance (obviously lol). im a new returning player (played 4 years ago on ps4 up to level 18 lancer and dropped off). i have only done dps and decided to tank cuz why not, looked fun. TLDR great video. thought enmity was gained from los, damaging all in pack, and provoke only pulled aggro on one enemy. learned a lot in just 1 minute of this video than i have from others. such as tankxiety vids

  • @blinkonceonsunday1325
    @blinkonceonsunday1325 2 роки тому

    These are good tips. My current main has been Dancer, which is a great DPS class. Since Dancer is basically the most mobile job in the game, I can run around the field without really thinking about boss positioning, focusing mostly on avoiding AOE hits and attacking at range. But recently I have started the process of leveling tank jobs and I'm sure I could use some improvement on that front. Now all my tank jobs are level 50, and that's the level where tanking starts to get serious.

  • @TheMadMedek
    @TheMadMedek 3 роки тому

    I’m new so a lot of this doesn’t apply yet however some of the techniques can be applied. Good to know moving forward.

  • @pharohphox7829
    @pharohphox7829 2 роки тому

    First, thanks for putting out these FF14 tanking videos. Following your tips and lessons learned, I have been getting a lot of positive comments and thanks from others in the game noting what I am doing is making their daily roulette runs easy and refreshing.
    I am sure that many have a groan of some type when they see a sprout tank watching a cut scene for the first time.

  • @Owl90
    @Owl90 3 роки тому

    Great content! Thank you!

  • @SKRRTCOBAIN00
    @SKRRTCOBAIN00 3 роки тому +4

    A couple of them are a bit complicated on ps4 but nothing is impossible and i will try this cool backwards aoe every time now i get the chance
    Thx for the guide
    - A Sprout 🌱

    • @Reinforce_Zwei
      @Reinforce_Zwei 3 роки тому +3

      Under I think Character config, you can change how your target filtering works.
      For example, while your weapon is drawn as a tank, you could limit the Left/Right D-pad buttons to only be able to cycle through enemies(because you have the party list Up/Down for healing and defensives like Blackest Night), this would stop you getting bogged down by NPCs, pets and anything in the arena that you need to interact with.

    • @Shuhannazy
      @Shuhannazy 3 роки тому

      i play on controller from starting on ps4, work with your settings like rein said and you will find something that's comfortable for you

    • @wtfisawohde3660
      @wtfisawohde3660 3 роки тому

      @@Reinforce_Zwei pressing R1 or L1 when holding R2 or L2 already target cycles as an enemy only filler, you don't need to mess with configs.
      additionally, pressing up or down on the D-Pad while holding L1 will cycle through your enmity list.
      The devs know what they're doing with the controller, people just need to learn the various targeting techniques available.

  • @Jungle_Twist
    @Jungle_Twist 2 роки тому

    I've been playing since launch. These are very very good tips for people learning to tank. I can't count how many times I've seen tanks place enemies in an awkward spot for dps or just using cooldowns when they don't need to, or not use cooldowns at all and then blame the healer for not healing enough.

  • @MattsHair
    @MattsHair 3 роки тому

    I was just going to hit up the discord! Been craving me some Lynx

  • @zeozein
    @zeozein 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the tips!!

  • @TryHardsHMSV
    @TryHardsHMSV 3 роки тому

    Good video, quite helpful.

  • @benpearson49
    @benpearson49 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for this, I'm an older player, but I don't Tank very often. These are good tips.

  • @kylestewart2829
    @kylestewart2829 3 роки тому +2

    I didn't think of using provoke that way will try next time :)

  • @manum8170
    @manum8170 2 роки тому

    Those are some nice tips, thx man

  • @yokabs3194
    @yokabs3194 2 роки тому

    Good tips, thank you!

  • @thatguy-dh1qh
    @thatguy-dh1qh 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the mob pulling tip. For some reason it never occurred to me to use my provoke. GNB has an OGCD that can be used to pull, but Rough Divide is still shorter at 15 yalms. I also didn't realize having a healers regen pulls aggro on them. I guess I can always use aurora or look out for Regens to click them off.

    • @zarith87
      @zarith87 2 роки тому

      For GNB you could regen (Aurora) on your self to pulls aggro on you too..

  • @webby8005
    @webby8005 2 роки тому

    has a main healer and off tank (flip flop) i did NOT know overhealing causes HIGH AGGRO thank you for this amazing tip!

  • @irochaossomalee
    @irochaossomalee 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this!

  • @Top_Shrimper
    @Top_Shrimper 2 роки тому +1

    Sprout tank here: thanks for the tips, I'm surprised I've actually picked some of these up already

  • @Dyllon2012
    @Dyllon2012 2 роки тому

    Another related one is to make sure that there are flank and rear positions available for melee DPS. i.e., make sure that position isn't covered by some puddle if possible.

  • @DP-fq7iy
    @DP-fq7iy 3 роки тому

    About the Pag casters. I generally just aoe when running past the first one and put the stack on the debris to break it faster. Definitely true for the 3rd group, though.

  • @sixstringdragon
    @sixstringdragon 3 роки тому

    What song is that playing in the background? Love it, and your videos. Great content!

  • @RazorNineThree
    @RazorNineThree 2 роки тому

    Only been playing FF for about a week and a half, but these tips definitely help. Will be trying to implement them into my gameplay.

  • @uberpinkwarrior
    @uberpinkwarrior 3 роки тому +1

    A thing for Amhuluk (first boss in new expert): if you have 2 ranged dps, you are actually better off not centring him. If he isn't centred, if you are far out (like any blm will be), they will be out of range for wide blaster. This lets them utterly ignore the mechanic. If you centre them, they will often get targeted, and all of a sudden they need to take time to move out of the aoe (which can cost them up to 2 GCDs). Most tanks either don't know this (and don't centre him), or *always* centre even if they don't have melee.

  • @bloodyDeagle77
    @bloodyDeagle77 2 роки тому +1

    I still haven't found a single guide about shirk, provoke, tank switch for new tanks. Good video though thanks.

  • @Snark_x
    @Snark_x 3 роки тому +3

    Forgot about the tip where you ask the curebot to play the early white mage questline and hall of the novice so they can learn what the developers think of curebots.

    • @NamesLynx
      @NamesLynx  3 роки тому +1

      lmaooo

    • @zerosuitfalcon
      @zerosuitfalcon 3 роки тому

      Isn’t that the same hall of the novice training that teaches healers to refuse to heal tanks if they pull more than one group?

    • @yea9008
      @yea9008 3 роки тому

      lmfao the trainers yell at you if the tank dips below 50%
      hall of the novice is still pretty shit

  • @ApnortonCS
    @ApnortonCS 2 роки тому +1

    1:33 "In FF14, overhealing generates more aggro than regular healing." If I recall correctly/am understanding the aggro breakdown on the ffxiv reddit wiki, it's HOTs that generate more aggro than immediately resolved healing, not necessarily overheal that generates the aggro. No actual impact to the point you're making (i.e. make sure regen is off prepull), but helpful for a healer to know the distinction.

  • @OneLynnK
    @OneLynnK 3 роки тому +3

    A niche tip for Gunbreakers, I've heard Aurora is a great way to maintain aggro from a particularly aggressive group of dps players as the regen gives you enmity. As far as I can tell though, it's extremely situational and you're probably safer using the standard methods instead of sacrificing Aurora

    • @SholPK
      @SholPK 3 роки тому

      From my experience with this technique, if your dps are so aggressive that they could pull aggro mid pull, the pack probably won't last that long anyway so you won't really need it for mitigation. It also heals the damage you take from the few autos you will receive if you're not shielded, so it's not all wasted.

    • @PowerfulSkeleton
      @PowerfulSkeleton 3 роки тому

      If you're still pushing abilities, there's 0% chance that a dps will ever peel aggro off you, short of actively clicking your stance off.

  • @danaiclusiachristin9717
    @danaiclusiachristin9717 2 роки тому

    The 3rd tip actually depends. For example, in the lvl65 dungeon Bartem, I have seen a lot of WHMs do not cast holy at the beginning of a multi-pull and you have to pop mitigation. Then they start casting. I couldn't blame them for that since if you do a multi-pull in that dungeon, your hp will just be on a roller-coaster even though you use your mitigation well. Anyway, this is a great advanced guide for different tanks

  • @minuslastlife6909
    @minuslastlife6909 2 роки тому

    I'm syre my method is gonna have to change in the higher levels but i found that shield throw, even tho its shorter, can be a really useful ranged pull action and saving the provoke for just in case moments if that makes sense

  • @maestrothemage6063
    @maestrothemage6063 3 роки тому

    Liked, Subbed and commenting for the Algo!

  • @thirtysilver33
    @thirtysilver33 3 роки тому +1

    Great content! I wish I had the balls to tank all this stuff. Around level 50 started getting hairy.

    • @NamesLynx
      @NamesLynx  3 роки тому +2

      We all started somewhere! I was a really bad tank all the way to max level when I first started playing and only through watching a bunch of tanking videos and practicing a lot did I ever get good. Don’t be afraid to start doing something you might enjoy! It’s normal to be bad at first :)

    • @thirtysilver33
      @thirtysilver33 3 роки тому

      @@NamesLynx True. Thank you for the insight brother, I just may dive back into it :)

  • @Abyssionknight
    @Abyssionknight 3 роки тому +3

    I'm new and I always wondered why I pulled aggro as scholar whenever the tank started a pack. I guess my faerie automatically heals on the first hit, which overheals and leads to aggro? I know this is a tank vid and not a healer vid, but how exactly do I avoid that from happening?
    Also great video! Nice to have a better understanding of what tanks are thinking / trying to do!

    • @phiefer3
      @phiefer3 3 роки тому

      I'm not an expert on sch or pets in general, but putting your fairy on Steady instead of Guard should make it not do anything until you tell it to, just make sure to put it back on Guard (or hit Sic) as soon as the tank stops to fight the mobs.

    • @holgualoxford3871
      @holgualoxford3871 2 роки тому

      To not have to fiddle with my pet, I would just shield myself on pulls and run close to the tank so the mobs dont run aroun if the aggro happens, I get hit 0-2 times and its not a huge deal and the mobs dont run around crazy, tank going to get aggro quickly and pretty easy. Just put yourself in the path the tank is trying to pull as to not get them running around after you on accident. You can also, as suggested, turn pet stances on and off all the time.

  • @rogerf3675
    @rogerf3675 3 роки тому +1

    I play healer main in FF14 and regen is'nt an issue with good tanks. I help out by running side by side with the tank and often stand in the middle of the mobs so I can Holy them down (Whm) to reduce damage that members take. But from a healers perspective, I often have issues with tanks hitting sprint and running ahead, many times resulting in them being half dead before I can even get within heal range, though some times they have died as a result. Of course there's always the tank that forget to turn their stance on or can't look up to see the rest of the group is dying due to some spawn they don't have any aggro on at all. And yes, the quality of a groups Whm varies greatly as well. Some i'm sure they are playing one just to level it and know nothing about healing. I'm glad you covered the "spinning around" crap since I can't count the number of tanks that have cleaved the raid. I can appreciate the tanks responsibility for facing mobs the right way for the up coming mechanics but consider it a healers co-job to know what is coming as well to optimize keeping everyone alive.. Experience is golden in that case. Good video, especially for the new comers. Personally I found the flood of what I call the "Covid Commando's" during the pandemic to be trying and frustrating as most were merely looking for something to do and not of what I would call 'gaming quality' but hopefully they learned and got better.

  • @GHRebel
    @GHRebel 2 роки тому

    never knew it was called backwards Overpower. Using legacy control is something i never tried, but a simple jump can let you move forward while hitting backwards with aoe or your ranged attack aswell.

  • @jasem1016
    @jasem1016 3 роки тому +3

    My fav FF content creator. Rolling a WHM atm gonna get to the next expac and play a DK cant wait

  • @Sangtrone
    @Sangtrone 2 роки тому

    Glad to know that the flashbang White Mage is appreciated xD

  • @YxungChe
    @YxungChe 2 роки тому

    Just started and I don’t think I’ll ever get to this point but I’ll try

  • @runehalm6059
    @runehalm6059 3 роки тому +1

    THX! New to the game and love Tanking :-) Hardes part is geting frends :-/

    • @rarrex12345
      @rarrex12345 3 роки тому +1

      If you're on the EU > chaos > Louisox server, I'd be more than happy to be your friend!

  • @Jambara
    @Jambara 3 роки тому

    WAR is my tank of choice and I do use backwards overpower but I don't use provoke like you described, I actually do a early single target rotation to get up storms eye and if any aggro drops in that short window I'll use provoke, having that infinitely chaining 10% dmg boost is a big deal imo and I'm kinda shocked you don't do it. I'm hoping WARs new skill is an AoE oGCD version of upheaval that would make this even easier.

  • @cassandrawasright1481
    @cassandrawasright1481 3 роки тому +5

    I've been a tank main for almost a year now and somehow I never thought of pulling trash packs with Provoke. But now that you point it out, it makes sense; you're right about it being longer range than the ranged attack, and the enmity on it being relative to the rest of the party doesn't matter since it's ogcd and you can just use your aoe once they start moving.

  • @manbearpigsereal
    @manbearpigsereal 3 роки тому +5

    pre-pull regen really isn't a problem any more though, the extra heal ticks while mass pulling is worth the extra bit of work the tank needs to do, and if the mobs go to the healer, it doesn't matter, they regen themselves and keep running with you.
    Warriors and Gunbreakers have an especially easy time with that, as they can just Equilibrium/Aurora to snap aggro on to them as they run.

    • @ashitakaharuo
      @ashitakaharuo 3 роки тому

      when healing i usually use the regen after the tank has aggro on the first group, so it's ticking while we're on the way to the second group. that mostly does the trick.

  • @aresanu
    @aresanu 3 роки тому +2

    #1 Turn Stance on
    #2 Use your CD’s
    #3 know when to use your immune ability
    #4 keep the boss facing North not South towards the team
    #5 ask healer can you do big pulls or small pulls

    • @sanyavlitvyak
      @sanyavlitvyak 3 роки тому +1

      Never ask the healer. Do a big pull, and adjust if you wipe.

    • @islandkuma5729
      @islandkuma5729 2 роки тому

      @@sanyavlitvyak If your own gear as a tank is up to ilvl yeah...don't ever pull big with crap gear. Healer should also be at or greater ilvl, but if they for some reason aren't... yeah don't pull big then either.

    • @aresanu
      @aresanu 2 роки тому

      @@sanyavlitvyak 😂😂😂

    • @schenira8004
      @schenira8004 2 роки тому

      #5 - if youre a warrior in endwalker , just pull everything

  • @AdrasAdraki
    @AdrasAdraki 3 роки тому

    Have you done a video about legacy vs normal controls? im trying to understand if one is clearly better than the other for melee dps.

  • @kinakomono
    @kinakomono 2 роки тому

    That was helpful, been playing for few years and I usually pop regen on tank before he pulls should I not?

  • @zurcarak
    @zurcarak 3 роки тому

    i liked the idea of the economy of gcd with provoke for pulls on the first tip so you always have gcd up for aoe. i remember doing range single target attack into aoe but would have to wait that gcd and it would fuck all the pack sometimes haha

  • @Persona3Yukari
    @Persona3Yukari 2 роки тому

    thank you

  • @Joe-it2dh
    @Joe-it2dh 2 роки тому

    I got a couple questions. So I primarily play support and during one particular raid, the tanks had symbols above their heads (one was a plus sign and the other an arrow? I think). I only ever saw it for that one raid but wasn't sure what they meant. So my questions are: what were those symbols, what purpose do they serve and how do I do that?

  • @pofruin
    @pofruin 3 роки тому +1

    About the regen I knew this (WHM POW) so usually only use Divine Benison barrier on tank as he pulls packs. Barrier doesn't seem to interact with enmity much. This also opens me to the question: Does GNB precasting Aurora would help them get aggro?

    • @xivCatumin
      @xivCatumin 3 роки тому

      Aurora would be a pretty minimal gain for aggro generation, but yeah it would work for the same reason that Regen would I believe.

  • @StayNightMH
    @StayNightMH 3 роки тому +1

    I'm really sceptical of the provoke pulling but I'll give it a try

    • @TheNairnsHair
      @TheNairnsHair 3 роки тому +1

      I do use it sometimes just to pull faster than waiting until I’m in Unleash range, but I also make sure to drop an AoE or two on the pack as I go through each one. It’s not as fast, but ensures I have aggro, and it’s not like I’m trying to actually speedrun a dungeon with randoms in duty finder

  • @MyGenericName
    @MyGenericName 3 роки тому +2

    I never thought about using provoke over my ranged attack. Im def gunna be implementing that thanks! :D

  • @Sombody123
    @Sombody123 3 роки тому +13

    If a healer pulls the aggro on a trash mob or two because of something like a pre-emptive regen for a couple of attacks and the tank doesn't immediately catch the aggro back until they arrive at the death ball location, I see that merely as making use of healer's own otherwise useless HP pool for mitigation, allowing you to focus on more damage. They'll be soon back up to full once we stand in the heal bubble for a bit as they spam Holy or whatever.

  • @barklabutson166
    @barklabutson166 3 роки тому

    @Lybx Kameli Just came back into FFxiv ,after been away from 3 years have my Pal ,war & DK at level 50 what are the tank stances for them is iron will for Pal ,not sure on the other 2...

  • @JustAnotherHuman33
    @JustAnotherHuman33 2 роки тому

    Very good video

  • @jiffah
    @jiffah 2 роки тому

    Also, doing LOS pulls when there is more than one caster is a must-have tool imo.

  • @MidoriGa95
    @MidoriGa95 2 роки тому

    Revisit this video because recently I feel like to play dark knight.
    Anyway, last night in castrum msq roulette, during the pull after 2nd boss (where Cid follows us), a dps died and they were angry that they didn't get a heal. "I was low hp for 10 seconds but still no heals". When a healer said sorry they went saying "tank fault for not pulling all the mobs". From beginning, I noticed I kept losing aggro and I thought maybe because warrior did more damage than I did. But now that I watch the video I guess maybe they also used provoke to grab the aggro.
    Thing is why was the dps the only one who died and far from where the group gathered?
    Later on, I queued as AST for a dungeon and I met again the same dps. Turned out just because they were ranged class that they kept running around, moving and not staying still. Who knows maybe a healer did try to heal them back in castrum but they ran off 🤣

  • @ToxisFaux
    @ToxisFaux 3 роки тому

    I found a better way to pull away from healers regen, heal tick etc while pulling. (For me personally since im on ps4 and hud cycling to get to tick off regen is a hassle.)
    As long as enemy is on the aggro list and in tankstance, I found healing myself with gnb aurora, or clemency from pld gains eminity. If party member pulls and arent close for aoe. The heals work if you heal them.
    The blackest night or the party defense buff for dark knight as long as you hit party member will get aggro. Nascent flash or party buff for war works. As long as you follow up with aoes of course. Less hassle for me personally then having to trying to chase them down.
    Tldr: clemency,aurora,blackest night, nascent flash, party defense buffs can nab trash mobs if applied to the right person if they have mob aggro while pulling packs in dungeons.

    • @ToxisFaux
      @ToxisFaux 3 роки тому

      Very niche situations but it helps me in case i have a regen happy healer, learned from being spiteful and slapping aurora as gunbreaker on them and saw the mob packs trajectory change to me.

  • @bookbagfox
    @bookbagfox 3 роки тому

    I’ll definitely be trying some of these out, thank you!

  • @MisterL777
    @MisterL777 2 роки тому +1

    Yeah backwards overpower is the best discovery you make as a warrior. The sooner you think about it the better

  • @michaelgraf6773
    @michaelgraf6773 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for teaching people how to up their game, I've been using things like provoke or abyssal drain for years to get difficult packs without ever having to stop running.
    :3
    I think its always a good idea to keep moving until you are done pulling. For dps stop and go tanks are really annoying since they have a tendency to start running again as soon as they enter burst phase.
    The difference between an ok tank and a good tank is details like these, positioning enemies and bosses, making sure the boss doesn't turn too much.
    Another important tip would be, to make sure that the back and rear of the boss are always hittable, when a boss goes to the edge of the arena for a mechanic, he needs to be pulled away or turned asap.

  • @TiennosMigos
    @TiennosMigos Рік тому +1

    What does he mean by "overpower enemies"? Is this something every tank can do or is it job specific?

  • @Hi_howrudoin
    @Hi_howrudoin 2 роки тому

    4:30 for this one, what if you have 2 caster and its the end of wall pull? One caster is behind, and one at the end of wall pull. No matter what, you will always miss out on one… i remember this from the expert dungeon but i am not sure which
    I have been centering mobs around casters my entire life, this is the few times i have no idea what to do.

  • @much7395
    @much7395 2 роки тому

    That overpower at 1:22 gave me an epiphany

  • @Lore-bi5vp
    @Lore-bi5vp 2 роки тому

    Good shit

  • @ethanward3912
    @ethanward3912 3 роки тому

    Warrior has 2 aoe skills a cone and all around him if im not mistaken "Mithril tempest"