@@honkworld9405 Embercleave would really come down to budget and game plan. Here we really don’t go wide enough with creatures unless we are ending the game. Embercleave would always cost 4 mana or more to cast. As far as keywords most of our Dragons have flying and the trample wouldn’t come up too often. Even if they did have an annoying blocker there is lots of removal here to deal.The double strike is nice but this can be achieved in different ways and even on more cost efficient cards. We can even throw Terror of Mount Velus on the field for 6 mana and give our entire board double strike, not to mention trigger all dragon tribal synergy’s . With that said it’s still a completely fine choice to include especially if you can incorporate it to always cost 2 to cast!
@@IDraken1221 Well I was thinking more of using it with the Ur-Dragon to slap someone for 22 commander damage more than on another creature since you can play it for free as you attack. I don't play at high level so that might be less likely there.
This is exactly what I needed! I've been upgrading my Ur-Dragon deck slowly over the past year or so but haven't had a clear goal for the deck until recently. This is an amazing reference for a streamlined, high power version of this deck that I'll be taking notes on! Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback! I very much appreciate it! It’s comments like this that make me want to keep producing content. Stay tuned I’ll have an updated version in a few weeks as well as my personal view of the Brian Kibler’s Ur Dragon deck
I recently dismantled my favorite dragon deck to make Ur Dragon and its been tough. I can't wait to start upgrading it. This was an awesome video, thank you for sharing
Hellkite courser worked wonders for me. Had sol ring turn 1. 2 red by turn 2. Cast him out, slammed ur dragon. Hit someone for 10 and I had gold dragon in hand so I slammed him down thanks for ur dragons ability. On turn 3!! Was awesome.
Watched video about 6 weeks ago. Looking forward to when you get around to doing an updated version of this deck to see which cards made the cut from Balder's Gate
@@IDraken1221 Yeah. I'm thinking about retooling mine quite a bit. There is an abundance of creature removal on dragons now, so I'm thinking of increasing the haste enablers, forgoing all(?) or most spell based targeted removal and upping the dragon count. Looking forward to seeing your update.
@@williameakin6907 gotta be careful with that route. Instant speed removal is very important. Even though increasing the dragon count seems good. Sacrificing instant speed interaction as a whole may do more harm rather than good
Funny you mention it. The cards themselves are not actually altered. The perfect fit sleeve on the inside is. I order all of mine through a website called Altersleeves.com . You can search any card and browse dozens of artworks! Not a sponsor I just love the work they and the artists do! I have a few for every deck.
Any news on when you will post a updated list of new dragon cards you may use? Just got the deck completed and looking forward to playing it in my pod.
I like to share a rare instance that is possible andd one I hope to pull off one day. There is a way to cast ur dragon on turn one I'm sure there are other ways, but this is one I found on my own while play testing. T1: play a mountain, mana crypt, cast jeskas will and target a player with 6 or 7 cards and choose the mode for red mana, cast a Hellkite course on etb target your commander and summon him to the battlefield he gains haste. Go to combat with Ur dragon (at this point you can draw a card and play a free dragon) put a old gnawbone into play and create 16 treasures. Essentially here you could recast your commander again on your next turn. If your really lucky you'll have aggravated assault and you can have infinite combats on turn 1. I know this is highly unlikely, but it would be really cool and fun to achieve in atleast one game to surprise your friends and earn their mad respect for The Ur-Daddy of all Dragons. Great deck tech gave me the motivation to play my Ur-Dragon deck
@@IDraken1221 yeah my buddies don't like my ur dragon deck so I haven't played it in awhile, but I have a new friend that joined our group and he loves dragons so I figured I'd bring the heat to test his love for dragons. Some cards I run that weren't in your list I figured you might like Orb of dragonkind Kindred Dominance Patriarchs bidding Dragonlord Kholaghan Sylvia brightspear Scalelord reckoner My deck is built around cost reduction redundancy with cards like heralds horn and the shamans and I can bust dragons early.
@@rhainex5952 I’ve played some of these cards in the past. Most of them worked their way out because the budget is too high or had double pips of a minor color like scale lord. All great cards but hard to fit some here
In my opinion, I would have kept farseek over jeweled lotus. Don't get me wrong, jeweled is amazing but it's only for your commander and you said you wanted to build around eminence. So having the extra land to cast another spell instead of a one time use is better for that. It also thins the deck so that's good too. Would appreciate an update if you ended up keeping it or found another spot for farseek.
Farseek was good and yes it lets us cast other spells but even though we aren’t dedicated to casting our commander I won’t pass up a free 3 mana. This allows Ur Dragon to hit the board turn 6 or sooner let’s us see value from him early especially when you have a haste enabler. Plus you can grab with Urza’s Saga. Personally I’m also pretty high on Jeweled Lotus as a card.
Hi! I'm not sure if you still pay attention to this video!? I noticed you mentioned Kindred Discovery was a good card for Dragon tribal. What about Mirraris Wake!? Isn't that more powerful than Kindred? I run a Tiamat Dragon deck, and it helps me cheat multiple dragons in one turn.
Hey thanks for stopping by! While I do like Mirrari’s Wake this serves a much different purpose then Kindred Discovery. One is card draw and the other ramp. With all the treasures in here I opted to omit it. It’s still a great card to play though! Especially if you’re lacking treasure making cards!
All I am missing is the Lands but I'll make it work,gonna test drive it on Sunday vs another Dragon Deck . Gonna Slip in a Karthuss in there to make them Salty 😆😆
Love it! My deck has changed quite a bit, honestly I may just do another video before my Streets singles come in because I'm not too sure what changes I'll make in the next month. stinging study is a card I've been sitting on. has it performed well? My new draw fixation has been moonveil regent....sooooo amazingggg do you think kindred discovery costs too much (mana value wise)? The amount of 7-drop dragons just keeps increasing, so I've just been looking for any way to bring the average cost down. I think I'm currently sitting at 4.25. It's a bit hard to judge with cards like Henge throwing the tally off a bit. 'FInale' is a wonderful inclusion! I have it in another deck (gruul x spells), but it's such a sexy card haha. Deluge is another card present in a different deck, but you're right the interaction with Nesting is amazing, didn't even consider it! Is Wasitora a big performer? I have never been overly fond of it for some reason. The new Jund guy from Streets is bonkers i Love him lol. Ancient Brass Dragon from CL2 will change everything, can't wait for that card. The one suggestion I can make that is 100% worth it is Scion of Draco if you haven't added it already. It only ever costs 1 or 0. It's the nuts for sure. But great deck dude awesome collection, love that cradle ;)
Thanks for stopping by to check my deck out! 1.) Stinging Study is an absolute haymaker. Drawing 9 cards at any point in the game especially when you have became Archenemy and need to recoup some resources puts you back in the game. I was also looking for some good "burst" draw spells and this fit the build. 2.) As for Kindred being a 5 mana draw spell that doesn't draw cards on its own can be a bit cumbersome if the deck isn't designed to use it fast enough. IDK if it would be worth fitting in your build. As for in here, my curve is pretty low especially in the tribal department. 3.2 w/o lands and 1.98 w/ lands. Plus kindred triggers on ETB and attack so I have packed haste enablers to get value as quickly as I can, I have also a token-y subtheme with things like Dragon Broodmother to abuse this. 3.) Wasitora is mostly valued due to it only costing 4 to cast to help start casting some sort of Dragons as early as turn 3 to get synergies going. In addition it will make a Dragon token which helps move things along but mostly its a decent removal spell on a lower curve Dragon body. Then tie it in with the haste enablers mentioned earlier and it can put pressure on the game quick. 4.) As for these last ones I actually cut both Finale and Deluge (for now). I have cut finale for Selvala's Stampede. Finale will end the game but Stampede can potentially put 4 big nasty Dragons on the board and trigger all sorts of cards from Kindred Discovery to Dragon Tempest for much less mana. 5.) Scion is actually one of the newer cards I haven't had the opportunity to play with too much. It is going to make its way back in here ASAP! Again, Thanks for viewing. Maybe you, I, and a few others can get a little Ur Dragon UA-cam group going to brew ideas and get them out into the community!
@@IDraken1221 sorry got real busy the last week. That would be great, I'd love to start getting more into youtube. I've started trying to expand my 'dragon collection' in general specifically so I could do I video in the future discussing the entire archetype. seems like a cool topic flesh out: different styles of builds; number of colors; support options etc. Super food for thought! my Streets singles came in (apart from the silly commander exclusives lol), so I'm going to start fiddling around with an updated deck video tomorrow!
It’s a card I’ve been trying to fit in recently. I have a good suite of protection but would like to include it still. Any recommendations on what to cut?
@@honkworld9405 that’s tough. Instant speed removal is very strong at higher power levels. Being able to answer combos with a deck that’s combat heavy is super important. I was think possible cutting Steely Resolve?
@@IDraken1221 Steely Resolve would be a candidate yes since it does protect you from targeted spells but not board wipes like heroic intervention does, and also you can't target your own creatures with anything which sometimes might be good. As always it's really tricky to pick what to remove lol.
Yeah I’m all for proxies but having an OG dual vs shock 9/10 times there is no difference so I didn’t proxy. If you have them or have different proxy rules I’d def play them! I have a list in the works post Baldurs Gate I’ve been testing that I’ll post soon
There’s lots of similar choices but you def want to keep a low curve and have some dragons that combo with each other to end the game. You also don’t have to play as many Dragons in the deck and have room to play some other powerful cards.
The Ur-Dragon is one of my favorite commanders. But I always have troubles to make it work in high power level tables. I am really looking forward to try your approach to this commander. But, I am even more curious to see what you think is worth to add from Baldur’s Gate maybe is too slow but they new dragons look very tempting to me.
@@IDraken1221 I also run the Gates in my Scion deck...insanely strong for what they're worth imho. Throw in vexing puzzlebox and Chromatic Orrery and you never have any mana problems. I do actually run 33 creatures also
I have and am super excited for all of these new dragon! I def want to see if I can fit it in. As long as I can reliably cast him for 4 mana or less then he’s going in!
Yes it ramps quite well. It has about 12-14 ramp spell. There are lists out there that ramp harder but sacrifice some other mechanics for big mana. On the side of fun. Absolutely l! It is my favorite deck known. You play big dragons and trigger all sorts of neat abilities. I’d love to see a list when you have one!
wow!! what are deck you have... can i copy it?? i really loved it and whatmore yoy have about dragons also... i started to create my 5 colors dragon commander but it's still far from finish... this gave me some ideas.
Of course, I encourage using my ideas! I’m also open to any good ideas you would like to share. I have a few more Ur Dragon videos based on budget that might help you as well!
That’s a great question! I have a few big reasons I’ve opted to omit Urza’s Incubator. 1.) My Dragon Curve really starts around 4 Mana Value(after Ur Dragon Discount). This makes 3 mana ramp very clunky combined with the speed and power of my play group, a 2 mana ramp spell makes things more smooth and fast. 2.) I have roughly 37 lands and 63 total spells. Around 24 are dragons, this means that a regular ramp spell helps me cast 100% of my spells. Whereas Urza’s Incubator will only help reduce/cast 38% of the deck. 3.) If I were to venture to 3 mana ramp territory I feel there are more efficient options. Herald’s Horn as well as Dragons’s Hoard and Coalition Relic are great ones to reduce/ramp and have residual value as the game goes on!
@@IDraken1221 hi mate, so finally tried your deck and it was simply amazing, worked really well thanks again! question, if you need to tutor a creature early in the game what would be your first choice (if you already have dragon tempest or you have a creatur tutor)? I went for goldspan or terror of the peaks but not sure this is the way to go!
@@fargo3720 Thats awesome to hear! As far as tutoring, Goldspan or Terror are great choices! What I usually tutor for after Dragon Tempest depends a bit. For ramp and removal Goldspan and Terror are #1 in slot but don’t count out Vaevictus and Old Gnawbone if that game state allows. You can also grab dragon Broodmother. Which you can see how it would get pretty crazy with Dragon Tempest on board. If the game level is very high power and interactive grab Dragonlord Dromoka. If there’s a Cradle or Cabal Coffers on board get Obsidian Charmaw. If your low on cards get any of the card draw dragons. Last if you wanna draw a card or 2 and dome someone get Hellkite Courser!
I don’t but I can post one up if you give me a price range or I could post a video with all sorts of budget alternatives to what I’m playing. Just lmk which you would like
@@IDraken1221 Thanks for the reply :D I'm in GBP, so something around £300-£400? I'm new to commander and relatively new to magic in general, it would be cool to know what cards you would sub out from this build to a budget build so that I have a starting point and then something to buy/build up to overtime.
@@kieranwinwood4432 yeah! I can do a whole video on great budget alternatives for all sorts of cards especially that mana base! Keep an eye out for it soon!
Oh man I have a whole list! To make it short the new Chromatic Dragons are all solid! Also there’s Korlessa, Renari, Ganax, and Miirym just to name some! There’s even a 2 mana dork that would essentially cost 1 to add a green.
It’s not bad, however most of the UR decks I’ve seen are one dimensional and therefore most experienced people know how to counter. Ramp package is as good as any. But in todays UA-cam deck age you have to be multifaceted. I will say you are running a few surprises that I run as well.
Thanks! This is a bit older and was my first deck tech! I agree innovation is key but I’m a value player and it shows lol. If you have a list of yours you can share I’d love to see it!
This is an informative video, but knowing you're building commander, why on earth do you keep saying "I'm running one copy of X?" We already know you're not running two copies of anything... lol
you do realize noone can see your cards right? your light is way too bright bro and i bet you would get more views if you figured that out. Best of luck to you.
List now on Moxfield! Test it and lmk what you think! www.moxfield.com/decks/hEKOkfsMZkmh2kKijTmf9A
Thoughts on Embercleave for the Ur-Dragon?
@@honkworld9405 Embercleave would really come down to budget and game plan. Here we really don’t go wide enough with creatures unless we are ending the game. Embercleave would always cost 4 mana or more to cast. As far as keywords most of our Dragons have flying and the trample wouldn’t come up too often. Even if they did have an annoying blocker there is lots of removal here to deal.The double strike is nice but this can be achieved in different ways and even on more cost efficient cards. We can even throw Terror of Mount Velus on the field for 6 mana and give our entire board double strike, not to mention trigger all dragon tribal synergy’s . With that said it’s still a completely fine choice to include especially if you can incorporate it to always cost 2 to cast!
@@IDraken1221 Well I was thinking more of using it with the Ur-Dragon to slap someone for 22 commander damage more than on another creature since you can play it for free as you attack. I don't play at high level so that might be less likely there.
@@V3NOM1221 I managed to do that with Gratuitous Violence in one game. I lost it to the last player remaining after I killed the other two haha.
@@honkworld9405 once you pull off a play like that, you become the target immediately lol
This video is by far one of the best videos for ur dragon, you explained every card and why it’s there and suggested replacement. Really good job
Thank you so much for the feedback! It why I keep making videos. Stay tuned for an update
This is exactly what I needed! I've been upgrading my Ur-Dragon deck slowly over the past year or so but haven't had a clear goal for the deck until recently. This is an amazing reference for a streamlined, high power version of this deck that I'll be taking notes on! Cheers!
Thanks for the feedback! I very much appreciate it! It’s comments like this that make me want to keep producing content. Stay tuned I’ll have an updated version in a few weeks as well as my personal view of the Brian Kibler’s Ur Dragon deck
I recently dismantled my favorite dragon deck to make Ur Dragon and its been tough. I can't wait to start upgrading it. This was an awesome video, thank you for sharing
Thank you for viewing! 🙏🙏🙏
I love to switch out my commanders. The Ur-Dragon, scion of the Ur-Dragon and Morophon its changing this up
That’s one of the beauty’s of commander. The flavor to switch out if it’s in your colors keeps things fun!
Hellkite courser worked wonders for me. Had sol ring turn 1. 2 red by turn 2. Cast him out, slammed ur dragon. Hit someone for 10 and I had gold dragon in hand so I slammed him down thanks for ur dragons ability. On turn 3!! Was awesome.
That’s amazing! Crazy how the deck can pop off so early sometimes!
Watched video about 6 weeks ago. Looking forward to when you get around to doing an updated version of this deck to see which cards made the cut from Balder's Gate
Yes! I might do a pre Baldurs Gate update shortly. Few weeks after release I’ll put an update out
@@IDraken1221 Yeah. I'm thinking about retooling mine quite a bit. There is an abundance of creature removal on dragons now, so I'm thinking of increasing the haste enablers, forgoing all(?) or most spell based targeted removal and upping the dragon count.
Looking forward to seeing your update.
@@williameakin6907 gotta be careful with that route. Instant speed removal is very important. Even though increasing the dragon count seems good. Sacrificing instant speed interaction as a whole may do more harm rather than good
Those alt artworks look so smooth. Specially the right one but not even one on cardmarket.
Funny you mention it. The cards themselves are not actually altered. The perfect fit sleeve on the inside is. I order all of mine through a website called Altersleeves.com . You can search any card and browse dozens of artworks! Not a sponsor I just love the work they and the artists do! I have a few for every deck.
@@IDraken1221 Ah thanks^^ They look nice but 6$ for one sleeve? hm
I have to think about it but thank you very much for the response.👍
@@sebastians.7372 they are a bit of a luxury. If you have a pet deck they are a great way to personalize your collection.
This is a great deck I might use a couple things in your deck some this has great synergy
Thanks a lot! Stay tuned for an update!
Any news on when you will post a updated list of new dragon cards you may use? Just got the deck completed and looking forward to playing it in my pod.
Yes! I’ll have one posted within the next few weeks! I just want to get a little more testing in!
I like to share a rare instance that is possible andd one I hope to pull off one day. There is a way to cast ur dragon on turn one I'm sure there are other ways, but this is one I found on my own while play testing.
T1: play a mountain, mana crypt, cast jeskas will and target a player with 6 or 7 cards and choose the mode for red mana, cast a Hellkite course on etb target your commander and summon him to the battlefield he gains haste. Go to combat with Ur dragon (at this point you can draw a card and play a free dragon) put a old gnawbone into play and create 16 treasures. Essentially here you could recast your commander again on your next turn.
If your really lucky you'll have aggravated assault and you can have infinite combats on turn 1.
I know this is highly unlikely, but it would be really cool and fun to achieve in atleast one game to surprise your friends and earn their mad respect for The Ur-Daddy of all Dragons.
Great deck tech gave me the motivation to play my Ur-Dragon deck
This is awesome! I never even thought of that to be possible. I might slip a Jeska’s will I’m just for that lol
@@IDraken1221 yeah my buddies don't like my ur dragon deck so I haven't played it in awhile, but I have a new friend that joined our group and he loves dragons so I figured I'd bring the heat to test his love for dragons.
Some cards I run that weren't in your list I figured you might like
Orb of dragonkind
Kindred Dominance
Patriarchs bidding
Dragonlord Kholaghan
Sylvia brightspear
Scalelord reckoner
My deck is built around cost reduction redundancy with cards like heralds horn and the shamans and I can bust dragons early.
@@rhainex5952 I’ve played some of these cards in the past. Most of them worked their way out because the budget is too high or had double pips of a minor color like scale lord. All great cards but hard to fit some here
In my opinion, I would have kept farseek over jeweled lotus. Don't get me wrong, jeweled is amazing but it's only for your commander and you said you wanted to build around eminence. So having the extra land to cast another spell instead of a one time use is better for that. It also thins the deck so that's good too. Would appreciate an update if you ended up keeping it or found another spot for farseek.
Farseek was good and yes it lets us cast other spells but even though we aren’t dedicated to casting our commander I won’t pass up a free 3 mana. This allows Ur Dragon to hit the board turn 6 or sooner let’s us see value from him early especially when you have a haste enabler. Plus you can grab with Urza’s Saga. Personally I’m also pretty high on Jeweled Lotus as a card.
Great deck. BUT, no miirym sentinal wyrm? No 2 headed hellkite? No zurgo and ojutai? No ganax for infinite mana? No copper dragon?
Hey thanks for viewing! When this video was uploaded those cards were not created yet. I do play most of not all of those now!
Great deck my man!! Just a heads up. Your moxfield link is not working.
Good catch! I’m actually making lots of edits with the release of Baldur’s Gate! I temporarily made the link private until ready to showcase
Hi! I'm not sure if you still pay attention to this video!? I noticed you mentioned Kindred Discovery was a good card for Dragon tribal. What about Mirraris Wake!? Isn't that more powerful than Kindred? I run a Tiamat Dragon deck, and it helps me cheat multiple dragons in one turn.
Hey thanks for stopping by! While I do like Mirrari’s Wake this serves a much different purpose then Kindred Discovery. One is card draw and the other ramp. With all the treasures in here I opted to omit it. It’s still a great card to play though! Especially if you’re lacking treasure making cards!
All I am missing is the Lands but I'll make it work,gonna test drive it on Sunday vs another Dragon Deck .
Gonna Slip in a Karthuss in there to make them Salty 😆😆
Good Luck on Sunday and lmk how it plays. Check out my newest video, it’s a budget mana base guide. I’m sure you’ll find it helpful!
Amazing video! Thank you
Thanks! Be sure to check out the newest version
Love it! My deck has changed quite a bit, honestly I may just do another video before my Streets singles come in because I'm not too sure what changes I'll make in the next month.
stinging study is a card I've been sitting on. has it performed well? My new draw fixation has been moonveil regent....sooooo amazingggg
do you think kindred discovery costs too much (mana value wise)? The amount of 7-drop dragons just keeps increasing, so I've just been looking for any way to bring the average cost down. I think I'm currently sitting at 4.25. It's a bit hard to judge with cards like Henge throwing the tally off a bit.
'FInale' is a wonderful inclusion! I have it in another deck (gruul x spells), but it's such a sexy card haha. Deluge is another card present in a different deck, but you're right the interaction with Nesting is amazing, didn't even consider it!
Is Wasitora a big performer? I have never been overly fond of it for some reason. The new Jund guy from Streets is bonkers i Love him lol. Ancient Brass Dragon from CL2 will change everything, can't wait for that card.
The one suggestion I can make that is 100% worth it is Scion of Draco if you haven't added it already. It only ever costs 1 or 0. It's the nuts for sure. But great deck dude awesome collection, love that cradle ;)
Thanks for stopping by to check my deck out!
1.) Stinging Study is an absolute haymaker. Drawing 9 cards at any point in the game especially when you have became Archenemy and need to recoup some resources puts you back in the game. I was also looking for some good "burst" draw spells and this fit the build.
2.) As for Kindred being a 5 mana draw spell that doesn't draw cards on its own can be a bit cumbersome if the deck isn't designed to use it fast enough. IDK if it would be worth fitting in your build. As for in here, my curve is pretty low especially in the tribal department. 3.2 w/o lands and 1.98 w/ lands. Plus kindred triggers on ETB and attack so I have packed haste enablers to get value as quickly as I can, I have also a token-y subtheme with things like Dragon Broodmother to abuse this.
3.) Wasitora is mostly valued due to it only costing 4 to cast to help start casting some sort of Dragons as early as turn 3 to get synergies going. In addition it will make a Dragon token which helps move things along but mostly its a decent removal spell on a lower curve Dragon body. Then tie it in with the haste enablers mentioned earlier and it can put pressure on the game quick.
4.) As for these last ones I actually cut both Finale and Deluge (for now). I have cut finale for Selvala's Stampede. Finale will end the game but Stampede can potentially put 4 big nasty Dragons on the board and trigger all sorts of cards from Kindred Discovery to Dragon Tempest for much less mana.
5.) Scion is actually one of the newer cards I haven't had the opportunity to play with too much. It is going to make its way back in here ASAP!
Again, Thanks for viewing. Maybe you, I, and a few others can get a little Ur Dragon UA-cam group going to brew ideas and get them out into the community!
@@IDraken1221 sorry got real busy the last week. That would be great, I'd love to start getting more into youtube. I've started trying to expand my 'dragon collection' in general specifically so I could do I video in the future discussing the entire archetype. seems like a cool topic flesh out: different styles of builds; number of colors; support options etc.
Super food for thought! my Streets singles came in (apart from the silly commander exclusives lol), so I'm going to start fiddling around with an updated deck video tomorrow!
@@Lv5SuperTuba I’m looking at a few cards from the new set as well! Can’t wait to see what you have!
Tainted strike and crawl space are pretty good in this deck
Solid ideas!!!!!
I'm late but heroic intervention should be an auto include in this deck. Since budget isn't an issue I feel you should add it.
It’s a card I’ve been trying to fit in recently. I have a good suite of protection but would like to include it still. Any recommendations on what to cut?
@@IDraken1221 I will look at your build and get right back to you
@@IDraken1221 Nature's Claim or one of the other removals that you have maybe?
@@honkworld9405 that’s tough. Instant speed removal is very strong at higher power levels. Being able to answer combos with a deck that’s combat heavy is super important. I was think possible cutting Steely Resolve?
@@IDraken1221 Steely Resolve would be a candidate yes since it does protect you from targeted spells but not board wipes like heroic intervention does, and also you can't target your own creatures with anything which sometimes might be good. As always it's really tricky to pick what to remove lol.
I assume no OG Dual lands for budget? We play with proxies so...
Can we get a new decklist link?
Yeah I’m all for proxies but having an OG dual vs shock 9/10 times there is no difference so I didn’t proxy. If you have them or have different proxy rules I’d def play them! I have a list in the works post Baldurs Gate I’ve been testing that I’ll post soon
sorry just bumo into your channel and enjoyed this deck tech.. what is yoit take on tiamat to replace ur-dragon
There’s lots of similar choices but you def want to keep a low curve and have some dragons that combo with each other to end the game. You also don’t have to play as many Dragons in the deck and have room to play some other powerful cards.
I love that Dragon playmat you have where did you get it?
lol I get this comment a lot. I bought on eBay a few years back. Unfortunately the same May is no longer for sale but there are ones very similar!
The Ur-Dragon is one of my favorite commanders. But I always have troubles to make it work in high power level tables. I am really looking forward to try your approach to this commander.
But, I am even more curious to see what you think is worth to add from Baldur’s Gate maybe is too slow but they new dragons look very tempting to me.
Actually I’m going to make a video reviewing the Baldur’s Gate cards shortly
I run Scion as commander...surprise the shit out of of table when I whack them on turn 4 and make 1-20 treasures or 1/1s
@@PH03NIX96 the new dragons from Baldur’s gate really gave Scion a boost in power!
@@IDraken1221 I also run the Gates in my Scion deck...insanely strong for what they're worth imho. Throw in vexing puzzlebox and Chromatic Orrery and you never have any mana problems.
I do actually run 33 creatures also
@@PH03NIX96 I like the ideas! You have a list somewhere?
can i draw a card with temur supremacy when i create a token with power 4 or greater?
Yes you do!
Have you seen the new Earthquake dragon from commander legends 2?.
I have and am super excited for all of these new dragon! I def want to see if I can fit it in. As long as I can reliably cast him for 4 mana or less then he’s going in!
what playmat is this? really like it kinda want one..
Found it on eBay a few years back. I tried looking and the exact same one isn’t listed, but there’s a few that are similar!
Nice man I’m three cards away from finishing my ur dragon deck
Awesome! Playing anything different than myself?
I just got the ur-dragon. Does this deck ramp up fast? Is it fun? Maybe you could help some :)
Yes it ramps quite well. It has about 12-14 ramp spell. There are lists out there that ramp harder but sacrifice some other mechanics for big mana. On the side of fun. Absolutely l! It is my favorite deck known. You play big dragons and trigger all sorts of neat abilities. I’d love to see a list when you have one!
Post the list! I’m building one right now with like a 1000$ budget. Would love to get your feedback and help with the mana base
I can post my list on Moxfield this weekend will that help?
wow!! what are deck you have... can i copy it?? i really loved it and whatmore yoy have about dragons also... i started to create my 5 colors dragon commander but it's still far from finish... this gave me some ideas.
Of course, I encourage using my ideas! I’m also open to any good ideas you would like to share. I have a few more Ur Dragon videos based on budget that might help you as well!
@@IDraken1221 thank you!! Love this video man. Now i have some confidence on this commander!!
@@HectorReneGuitz great to hear!
Where did you get the playmat my guy? :)
Hey! Long time no talk lol. I got this on eBay years ago. It can’t be found anymore but there are similar ones. You getting into Commander?
great video thank you, really appreciate the effort, will be really helping! quick one, you never thought about playing urza's incubator?
That’s a great question! I have a few big reasons I’ve opted to omit Urza’s Incubator.
1.) My Dragon Curve really starts around 4 Mana Value(after Ur Dragon Discount). This makes 3 mana ramp very clunky combined with the speed and power of my play group, a 2 mana ramp spell makes things more smooth and fast.
2.) I have roughly 37 lands and 63 total spells. Around 24 are dragons, this means that a regular ramp spell helps me cast 100% of my spells. Whereas Urza’s Incubator will only help reduce/cast 38% of the deck.
3.) If I were to venture to 3 mana ramp territory I feel there are more efficient options. Herald’s Horn as well as Dragons’s Hoard and Coalition Relic are great ones to reduce/ramp and have residual value as the game goes on!
@@IDraken1221 very clear, thanks man!
Anytime!
@@IDraken1221 hi mate, so finally tried your deck and it was simply amazing, worked really well thanks again! question, if you need to tutor a creature early in the game what would be your first choice (if you already have dragon tempest or you have a creatur tutor)? I went for goldspan or terror of the peaks but not sure this is the way to go!
@@fargo3720 Thats awesome to hear! As far as tutoring, Goldspan or Terror are great choices! What I usually tutor for after Dragon Tempest depends a bit. For ramp and removal Goldspan and Terror are #1 in slot but don’t count out Vaevictus and Old Gnawbone if that game state allows. You can also grab dragon Broodmother. Which you can see how it would get pretty crazy with Dragon Tempest on board. If the game level is very high power and interactive grab Dragonlord Dromoka. If there’s a Cradle or Cabal Coffers on board get Obsidian Charmaw. If your low on cards get any of the card draw dragons. Last if you wanna draw a card or 2 and dome someone get Hellkite Courser!
Bro I need that playmat !
I snagged it on eBay a while back. I’m not sure if you can still find but good luck!
Great vid, planning to build this deck soon! Also, where did you get this awesome playmat? 🤯
Hey! Thanks a lot! I snagged this playmat on eBay a few years back. I’m not sure if the seller still makes it but it’s worth a look!
Have you got a complete budget list for this?
I don’t but I can post one up if you give me a price range or I could post a video with all sorts of budget alternatives to what I’m playing. Just lmk which you would like
@@IDraken1221 Thanks for the reply :D I'm in GBP, so something around £300-£400? I'm new to commander and relatively new to magic in general, it would be cool to know what cards you would sub out from this build to a budget build so that I have a starting point and then something to buy/build up to overtime.
@@kieranwinwood4432 yeah! I can do a whole video on great budget alternatives for all sorts of cards especially that mana base! Keep an eye out for it soon!
Deck list link its cool if you can do so, closest deck of mine , different but close … Nice video !
I’ll throw one together soon. Thanks for the feedback! I’d love to see your list
@@IDraken1221 work shop for the x Times , you Know how it is, deck list coming soon whit no game playtest for now big maybe board 🤔✌️
What new cards may be viable?
Oh man I have a whole list! To make it short the new Chromatic Dragons are all solid! Also there’s Korlessa, Renari, Ganax, and Miirym just to name some! There’s even a 2 mana dork that would essentially cost 1 to add a green.
Tyvm perfect guide
Thanks for the view! Be sure to tune back in for updates, variants, and more!
@@IDraken1221 allready subscribed ;)
It’s not bad, however most of the UR decks I’ve seen are one dimensional and therefore most experienced people know how to counter. Ramp package is as good as any. But in todays UA-cam deck age you have to be multifaceted. I will say you are running a few surprises that I run as well.
Thanks! This is a bit older and was my first deck tech! I agree innovation is key but I’m a value player and it shows lol. If you have a list of yours you can share I’d love to see it!
Sir your url no longer exist
Yes it’s been set to private until my update video!
slivers deck pls
Coming soon!
@@IDraken1221 i look forward to it & compare it to my list
This is an informative video, but knowing you're building commander, why on earth do you keep saying "I'm running one copy of X?" We already know you're not running two copies of anything... lol
Lol yeah this was my first video and was a force of habit from other games/formats. Sounds silly but it happens lok
you do realize noone can see your cards right? your light is way too bright bro and i bet you would get more views if you figured that out. Best of luck to you.
I knew the lighting wasn’t the best, but this is the first comment I’ve gotten. Feedback is noted. I’ll have better lighting soon!