Rings of Saturn Lucas Mann "Fake Guitar" DEBUNKED - Jared Dines Reaction & Response Video
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- Опубліковано 4 гру 2019
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All Guitar Playing in this video is supplemented by the raw DI tracks at the end of the video that I welcome anyone to inspect. Live audio from our shows recorded direct from the console is featured debunking the "miming live" argument entirely. An explanation of why there was confusion upon the popular accusations and arguments is given, along with more supporting evidence such as a fan video. Call out Culture and Jared Dines is discussed as well. I am not trying to attack anyone with this, and only want positivity for everyone involved, however I feel my side needs to be heard because it has overwhemingly been suppressed. Hopefully this video clears everything up.
Respect, Lucas, respect.
*THANK YOU!*
Fuck the whiny haters and tone-deaf critics.
Your guitar writing and playing is so technically advanced that people can't comprehend that it's real. It's at a skill level that 99% of guitarists will never achieve. I've played guitar for 15 years and I'm not anywhere near your skill level. That in no way means I dislike or discredit you, but means I respect you for your talent and the music you write. Everyone is better at something than someone else. Your "something" just happens to be guitar. My "something" just happens to be slamming some Tito's vodka and eating Mexican food. Next time you're in Houston Tx hit me up and I'll prove I'm better at my talent. My treat 👍
Lucky to see y'all live I loved it!!!
Non-guitar players and those who haven't practiced this style of music really underestimate the efficiency of muscle memory. There's licks that I can play so well that I don't even need to try whereas others that are 'simpler' are just impossible for my dumb hands. Props to you sir! Very well spoken. I've always loved RoS and will continue. 😃
Imagine being so good that people think you're faking it
what's funnier, that not some guy, who don't know about music anything, but an actual experienced guitarist, haha
Thats what she said.
I live it everyday.
Jk, of course.
Nope, I can't even imagine being that good.
Mr Wrestling it’s like getting jacked and having jealous people constantly say you’re on roids
Absolutely incredible playing dude. Your absolute domination of the fretboard is inspiring.
Thank you so much, Rob! You are amazing for your kindness!
🤘🏻
Fuck Jared Dines.
*your
father rob has spoken
"that's my warmup"
Bruh...
Yep, exactly like Michael Angelo Batio.
"I'll show you my personal warm up licks"
* Proceeds to shred at 3000 BPM *
lol it reminds of that airsoft video "that's not full auto??"
@@LucasTheUltimate Hey for jazz band I have these warm-ups I created to get down the cage system for certain chords which is hard as hell, and for band the warm-up for trumpet is fucking hell.
*throws away guitar*
I mean the hardest song as warmup is a good one to get ready to play all other of your tracks right?
Paganini was accused of having a deal with the devil for playing so fast.
Today they just call it fake.
MAJIN _ top comment right here
Well I don’t remember there being playback in Paganini’s day
@@andrewoverhere8525 thanks 👌
@@macmuggo5459 yes at least jared got what he deserved, a lot of fans turned their back on him, me too. I was a huge dines fan but I immediately unsubscribed. He still will be getting a lot of money with his shit on youtube but his name will always be in the dirt for his stupid accusations 😁
@@majin_4953 Same here. I used to be a fan and after his bullshit video I unsubbed. Not like it would matter or make any impact, but still. Fuck that guy
This is just a 40 minute video reminding me that I need to practice
Real talk (picks up guitar) 🎸
Big facts
It's making me want to set up a Reverb account and sell sell sell
I thought this was a 40 minute video of him admitting he cheats but not in the way he was accused of.
Same here lol
One fundamental truth spoken here
"Guitar is not a sport"
Dines is sweating heavily while seeing this comment, poor guy who couldn't handle his "shred wars"
True that. I've been saying it for ages. And not only for guitar, but for all of music. It's not a fucking athletic competition. It's all about expression, creativity, and whatever level of technique you have.
Word
People just like to be assholes about it though :)
Which is great, to stunt creative nature.
Screaming fake at drummers that use triggers is also a lot like screaming at lightbulbs because they are turned on. You know it's not a candle, so why are you so mad about it?
I'm so disappointed about the fact that a professional musician like Lucas has less credibility than a professional meme maker like Jared.
Just because he, himself can’t play like that. So much jealousy.
Jared Dine is a fuckn meme
Jared dines ain’t even a good meme guy. He basically ripped it off of jarrod alonge . Poorly
Dines is a fucking idiot. Pretend musician who needs to tear down others to feel better about his mediocrity. His channel is literally best known for a collab series that features other players. Guy is a fucking goof.
My wife is so good, she’s been faking it for years
arnicus208 HAHAHAHAHA
Oof
Dammit, beat me to it!
And its fast too I suppose?
Guitar playing right?
This is the IRL equivalent of being called a hacker for being too good at an online game
For real tho
I love those days. Quick sniping
Hell yea, getting called a aimbotter in Quake 3 back in the day felt good.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@Patrick.Basedman Happened to me in AQ2 what a rush!
That’s a wig. No one’s hair is that lovely.
Underrated comment
No man has that much hair at his age! LOL
Paul Emil Levasseur you must haven’t seen any of the current 80’s hair metal band members. Those dudes are like 60 with golden lockes from the fuckin holy grail.
Comment of the year !!
Power metal bands: Allow us to introduce ourselves
2 points
1.) I was a fan of RoS before this, now im a huge fan.
2.) Lucas is a perfect example of how to handle accusations like what Jared said.
Well said. I don't know how I ended up on Lucas's channel, but I have been a Jared Dines fan for a couple years. I guess I saw him im thumbnail so I clicked it. I stand behind Lucus 100%, as anyone should. Jared did him wrong on so many levels, setting him back tremendously. Breaking down exactly what he is playing, how he plays it and how the audio hits the concert attendee was perfect. I'm not familiar word any of that but he break it down Barney style for me and I got it. He kept his cool, educated everyone and provided his side very professionally. I hope the best for Lucus and as well as RoS. I will be adding them to my Spotify Playlist.
AGREED 100% BRO
Still remember seeing them play 2012 summer slaughter tour. I was too shy to take a pic with Lucas lol
I’m your 666th like 🤘
He handled this gracefully. The fact is, the talentless have and will always try to elevate themselves through demotion of others. Personally I would have a C&D drafted to Jared et al. The whole "shaming to generate clicks" culture needs to be buried with extreme prejudice. It's defamation and it needs to stop. First step would be to demonetized.
"I do not want anybody to harass anyone over this"
Everyone in the comments: I'll go ahead and pretend you didn't say that
Lucas Mann: I've been accused of being a fake shredder
Herman Li: First time?
@@joaquinsebastianguzman5336 how about we get to that Jake guy. He's not apologzed.
ANKIT AMAR KASHYAP Jake Gardiner?
@@KoziPlaysMoosic yes
ANKIT AMAR KASHYAP Ohh.
But they both play like shit.
I totally understand you. People don't believe my guitar playing is for real either. The only difference is it's because I play so poorly.
It is a pretty irritating reaction. I usually then follow up with a confused and awkward thanks as they think I’m too good ¿
LOL. You're better than you think you are though.
Same here.
@@216trixie Many guitarists have a fittingly eccentric form of the Dunning-Kruger effect. The experts and well-practiced novice overestimate the ears and guitar knowledge of the average listener. They also have some knowledge of what they cannot do and what it takes to improve and from this cast self-doubt on their own ability.
Subscribed simply for the comment 😂😂
when he says "we are not in competition with each other as musicians" that shit hits hard though.
It hurts bcuz their all lowkey competing
Not really, Jared is competing, Lucas plays music, not UA-cam "shred war" videos.🤷♂️
Venues
When he said, “playing guitar is not a sport” that got me too
This is the classiest response to someone who tried to drag your name thru the mud (zero swearing). You said solid points
Hes a master of shit post and a master of pose when he wants lol
This is literally the best "you're wrong, and here's why" video I've ever seen
Lol it led me to this band 💯🤷♂️
Honestly same lol. Jared is a bitch.
Dines should know better than anyone u would have thought.
These guys harrassed that Manuel guy because of such videos slandering him. It's ridiculous. Jealousy is a petty petty thing.
Watch Jared have a bitch fit because he's been proven wrong 🙄🤣
This is the musical equivalent of getting called a hacker for being good at a game.
totally agree
@@guillaumefo Absolutely.
Goddammit, replied to the wrong comment: Absolutely, that's exactly what it is.
n i c k one might say, a ‘hack’.
Does that make Lucas the Ninja of music?
Jared is an absolute joke. This video proves it perfectly.
I think Jared is bummed out he's balding and can't shred as well as Lucas.
Lmao
I mean, I’m in the same boat as Jared, but unlike him, I’m not a pissant
@@ahuman8641 You apparently didn't watch this Video. Jared is just wrong and maybe even jealous and doesn't care about any reputations except his own.
@@GrindingGrindcore Lmao, I was talking about the balding
@@ahuman8641 ok :)
I'm not saying its aliens, but its Aliens.
I want to believe ;)
Goddammit Xenomorphs! 😂
... can't believe you SAID it!
Best comment
Rusty Shackleford HAHAHHA I WATCHED LUCAS TURN INTO A LIZARD ALIEN FOR A SECOND BEHIND STAGE
this mans patience is almost as honed as his sweeping
He is the most patient man, I met him on their latest tour and I was PINGING I was being super annoying but he was so chill
Mann's :)
@@deadswordsman ahhhhhh I see what you did there
“...we have a clock just for the meme...”
The most important phrase was that music is not a competition. Instruments are there to express yourself and share your art with others!
This shits beautiful
“I record every single set of the tour”
LIVE ALBUM PLEASE
then just wait for haters to scream it's all overdubs etc.... you mean like most live albums that are produced and released ffs.
Parker Bennink I want to hear the dingir sets
PLEASE!!!
Most good engineers do this. Some sets are better than others usually. It's great to look back on.
Thanks to everyone for sharing their comments and thoughts about this matter. Jared Dines has issued a video in response in which he makes a genuine apology regarding this whole debacle. I really respect and appreciate him for doing that. I’m happy that we were able to resolve this issue and move forward in a positive way. Please watch his video here ua-cam.com/video/E04fJkAsKvM/v-deo.html
EDIT: His apology video was deleted, however a re-upload of it can be seen through this link for those curious as to what he had said ua-cam.com/video/FWJFk3Dgio4/v-deo.html
Jared fucked up bad but he owned it I hope this gets forgotten soon
Now I like RoS even more.
I’m still not understanding the argument of you “admitting you were using a backing track”
Honestly fuck that guy. He apologized after being proven wrong but that doesn’t eliminate his elitist attitude.
@@nikhilt9671 If you are referring to the part where Lucas is talking about him miming versus using a backing track, he is explaining the difference between his show using a backing track to supplement his and the rest of the band's playing, versus using it to mime playing.
If you are referring to something else let me know :D
“He’S nOt PiCkInG”
I’m sorry i thought guitar hero taught about hopo’s
true
I don't know who this guy is, never heard of this band, don't even know how I got to this channel, but man can he play that guitar!
Same lol.
Same!
“We aren’t in competition with each other”
Incredibly wholesome and respectable response to this whole thing. Well said brother. I hope the attention from this negativity ends up bringing you even more future success.
Absolutely. This guy is completely humble about his ability - he just wants to play guitar, and for people to know it's real when he does.
true!
What Jared Dines did was not a Djentleman thing to do.
Excellent
Geniusness
This is an underrated comment
Djeneracy
Get out
A straight lesson for the 'bedroom internet guitarist' Jared dines : I can't play is not equal to he can't play
“People can be inhumanly good” one person was... his name was Shawn Lane
Reppin' Shawn Lane, hell yeah. Glad he isn't forgetten. That man was a maniac on guitar. Stupid perfect playing.
He made me want to quit sometimes lol he was an absolute God.
Flying pianos and get you back. Crazy. RIP Lane
Allan fucking Holdsworth
FAKE!
Lucas Mann himself isn't real.
He is a robot. Sometimes the wires come out
Lucas mann doesnt exist
He's a prototype. The finished version is coming out in 2020
I thought he was a hologram
Neither was Shawn Lane!
“People can be inhumanely good” I totally agree with this, has anyone ever seen Tosin abasi’s thumb? That is inhuman
HIS THUMB IS LITERALLY A WHOLE SEPERATE BEING
lol true
Or seen buckethead
My dads got that same weird bent thumb thing it’s weird
@@BackYardPropsWA thank you for saying it
What Lucas is doing here - "A simple arppegio" is the warm up of any classical musician... I don't understand why people would say playing fast arpeggios is fake but ok... Great playing Lucas! Your technique is extremelly good. Cheers!
I don’t know why I’m watching this, I don’t doubt he plays everything legitimately
I’m watching it just out of sheer respect for the man’s talent and professionalism, and the drama is fun too :)
@@katyungodly drama gei
To be honest this is pretty much the best free guitar lesson you can get.
right? Thanks to jared this is my new warm up lmaoo
Yuppp
Shredding in DI is just so weird to listen to, yet so satisfying
That guy has skills
Clearly the most important question here is where can I get those sunglasses
Gucci
Tesla
Saturn 😉
yes!
lmao
This dude should record audio books
Welp...I just unsubscribed from Jared Dines, so glad I saw this video
Apart from all the facts Lucas has presented proving he doesn't fake anything, I think the simple fact the he is so level headed and civil about this whole thing despite the fact that he is the clear victim in this situation will tell any rational human being that he is telling the truth
Jared Dines' own behaviour just proves he is a literal man child, dude grow up, you said it yourself, there are always going to be better guitarists than yourself, why can't you just accept that Lucas is one of those people
A quick disclaimer: I have watched Jared Dines' videos for a long time but only go back and watch his earlier stuff, don't watch any of his new stuff as it is mediocre at best
Also, I do like Rings of Saturn's music, but with very little research and very little knowledge on this subject, I previously assumed that there was some level of 'fakeness' going on with both their live sound as well as their recorded sound, after watching this video my view has completely changed due to the level of transparency and facts on display
Top work Lucas, people are just envious and insecure as you said, very unfortunate that you have suffered mentally and monetarily from this just because Jared wants that UA-cam money, smh...
Same here. Fuck that douchebag.
I feel like Devin Townsend needs to sit down with Jared and explain how making a wall of sound works
Lol. Nice. Good one.
Love this lol
I think Jordan Rudess should teach Jated Dines music theory as well yo!
How can you say Lucas was miming anything he doesn’t even have the shirt or the face paint.
Very underrated comment.
lol, made me laugh
This really is a badass comment 🤘🏻 hahaha
You right
No Beret ? No striped shirt ? No miming.
When my band opened for Rings these guys were warming up backstage and the licks sounded flawless. Solid talent.
So much practice time to get to that point. Its really sad.
@@JV8901 sad? It’s called a hobby
Threw in the name of your band, i'm beibg doubful, i thought he was a fake before that video and your testimony clears a lot
@@JV8901 jealousy detected!
@@JV8901 why is it sad? Lol
The 1.5K dislikes are likely from Jared's fanbase
Hey man, I'm part of the fanbase but I didn't dislike the video.
I liked this video. I agree with Lucas but just because Jared Dines decides to accuse Lucas doesn't mean I will bottle this up forever and turn my back on Jared. In my world, it doesn't work that way. 1, its literally the only thing he's done, and 2, he apologized and he admitted the shit he said (FYI, not talking about the apologies from the messages, I'm talking about his real apology on his channel), and I'm pretty sure Lucas has accepted it.
Just respect him for how cool he deals with idiots from the Internet
Agreed. Class act. Also a fucking monster of a player.
Word
10:27 "It's almost 2020" Then how does this guy have sunglasses from 3020?
🤣🤣🤣
You mean 1991
For real where did he get these, time travel?
Underrated comment lmaoooo
@Rudraksha Saikumar you need to be from 3020 to understand it
Jared hasn’t heard of Michael Angelo Batio’s “clean’.
Or Jason Richardson, Loomis, Guthrie, Becker and Yo onityan to name a few
@@tvnja How about Rick Graham? Some of the cleanest playing I've ever heard.
"michael angelo batio" LMAO. one of the worst guitarists ever.
@@deconstructyouridols hyperbole is fun.
@@charlesb1602 and rusty cooley
Guitarists: **Improve technology to advance musicality and songwriting**
Musicality: **Improves**
Guitarists: *HEYIDONTLIKETHAT!!*
rush said it best. All this machinery, making modern music, can still be openhearted
People have been complaining in and on youtube ever since ROS was created.
Bitches be bitches. Lucas is one of the best guitarist ever.
facts, i remember their garage videos from like a decade ago and yeah that was all i ever read, "they speed up or mimic" lol granted these videos were just guitar sometimes it was unreal but they were actually playing them.
lucas is just that good lol.
-and Brain Drill before that.
Tbh, once your playing gets to an impressive level, people start to bitch lol.
@Bruce Wayne Which is pretty stupid actually ... I don't particularly enjoy ROS on the music side, but i'm amazed by the performance. If people call it fake to justify not liking the band, they probably have issues ...
“We have a clock just for the meme” was just so casual I laughed out loud
This guy sounds exactly like Cosmonaut variety hour.
Yeah I hear it too
A little fun fact :
Saturn is losing its rings at a fast pace..the rings surrounding Saturn will be completely gone in 100 million years.
That's very funny indeed.
U definitely found this video by accident while searching for a Saturn doco
Fake! Dude is lip syncing his entire monologue.
That's funny for explaining what this is all about to someone.
Obviously
Your a towel
Honestly if he did it would be a top tier clapback. Imagine he gets called out over something he didnt do (faking guitar) and then he just cranked the accusation up to 1000; it'd be god tier man 🤣
No dude, the mic is just too close to him, so you are listening to his monitors
“Here’s what it sounds like slow...” *proceeds to play faster than I can.
Gordon Roberts Right!? 😂😂😂
Right?!
You are the comment dude.
Sounds like Jared needs to volunteer at his local venue. If any of these UA-cam guitarists spent a little bit of time running FOH, monitors, or schlepping gear they would understand how these things work. Because they started their music careers in front of a computer instead of on a stage, they seem to lack a basic understanding of live sound and production.
+1 so true.
Dines is a fool. It would be understandable for some Joe Blow to presume that a live performance that sounds “too perfect” to them is probably edited or faked altogether but Jared is at least somewhat plugged into the happenings in music recording and live performance. He has played and performed with several bands over the years - as have many of his friends. He should know these things - or at least grant you guys the benefit of the doubt until he had a chance to look into it further. Not only should he know better - he actually knows you personally. Before cashing in on a bullshit accusation video, he could easily have picked up the phone and asked you about this.
Watching a few clips and accusing someone (someone you very easily could have asked personally) of faking something that they have practiced every single day for months or years just because to your ears, it sounds “too perfect” is just fucked.
As you said, making a video is one thing. I guess it could be seen as him bringing the topic up for discussion. I definitely don’t see it that way but the argument could be made. However, insisting that you guys are outright faking your live performances in comment threads is such a fucking snake move.
I love that his first statement is about as matter-of-fact as can be.
“Lucas _definitely_ mimes some parts live.”
And after a single response, he immediately starts backpedaling and throws out the “I could be wrong.” Way to stick to your guns, dude.
What’s even better is that he suggests at the end of that thread “we can discuss this privately if you wish.”
Yeah I think that train has sailed, dipshit. You want to put me on blast to hundreds of thousands of people without doing any due diligence whatsoever but you want to discuss it privately once I respond? Seriously, dude?
And that follow up in the DM’s was just pathetically arrogant and assholish. “Don’t lie to ME. That hurts more than anything.”
Kyle Stewart yeah Dines definitely gives off some ‘narcissistic ex girlfriend’ vibes
9:15 those glasses look like the glasses you wear when driving the Cybertruck.
You get them when you pre-order the Cybertruck so you can show off your pre-order! LOL
I feel like they are called the optimus primes?
Anyone know where to get a pair? Lol
or when your future is too bright
@@ThatCarGuy 😂😂😂😂
Jared's so lucky he doesn't even know it. These kind of fake allegations against innocent people is how careers get ruined.
what career??? haa
facts
He doesn't have a career lmao
What career are you talking about he doesn’t have one OMEGALUL
@@necromorphxbrute don't know if you've been living under a rock or what but he's been invited by a few pretty big bands to come play on tour with them. he's doing just fine.
I gotta be honest: I am actually not into Rings of Saturn, it's just not my kind of music. BUT: i stumbled across this video. And I gotta say: I gained such a high level of respect for Lucas Mann, its ridiculous. Jared has always been an unlikely dude for me. Lucas is an absolute killer guitarist and I highly respect this guy for his talent. Keep on the good work. As far as I can tell, you gained more fans after this very betrayal.
it s not really music tbh
@@xertiasstrat8957 and your mom isn't really your mom
@@icipher6730 she is
dont get upset because of the truth bruh
The noob who criticized you doesnt know the difference between legato vs staccato. Great playing man!
Having never heard of this band, I'm very impressed at the discretion shown under massive pressure here. Amazing player, and a very level headed dude. A credit to guitar, UA-cam and the scene.
MrConeman true, and same here. New fan
Lucas is a great guy all around. Never met him but i just know
I used to think Lucas was kind of arrogant but this video really gave me a newfound respect for him. This was a great and informative video.
hes been in the crosshairs of being a "fake guitarist" from the start of his career basically, and its impressive to say the least that he has always kept a level head regarding this.
Aliencore fans: How many lies are you going to debunk?
Lucas: YES!
hahaha take this beer bro!
My reaction every time I see a video of you playing is to grab my guitar. Instead of getting motivated by your unbelievable playing people label it fake so that they feel better about them selves. You’re one of the best players I’ve ever seen
This guy looks like a caricature drawing of David Gilmour
Mats Ørnhaug that’s who he reminds me of!! You just made me realize that. Haha.
"guitar is not a sport"
WORD and neither is ANY kind of artistic discipline.
I think Jared feels threatened.
@@balloonfiesta15 lmao sorry, english is not my first language, feel free to correct me
Gaming
felt good to hear that
@Heart Connected what's making a game if u don't play it
2019 - The year to discredit everyone doing better than you.
I also see this happening in the scientific context. "I don't understand it, so it must be wrong."
The year of jealous ass bastards trying to regain self esteem and to feel good about themselves by discrediting others instead of actually practicing to get good
Basically 😭😭
So true. 66samus as well discrediting thomas cremier's double strokes as fake recently
How else will they stay relevant
Live sound engineer here. I do not know anything by ROS and have no stake in the band as a listener or insider. I'm only vaguely aware of Lucas Mann. What I can tell you is that everything the live sound guy was saying is 100% honest, and nothing about the way their live show is run is suspect in any way. That's actually a very simple and barebones set up if you're talking about efficiency, and I've ran bands like that countless times. It's probably about 6/10 times, at my venue size, the bands are using tracks. For the really tight and highly refined performances, it's almost 10/10 times. But I cannot stress enough the part about the monitors. You can be on stage with other monitors all around you, and barely hear their mix, or the FOH speakers. Then you take 3 steps off stage and you're standing infront of the FOH speakers and the entire band reappears. Singers on stage won't be able to hear the beat or their own voice if it's only coming through the house speakers, even though those speakers are louder than holy fuck. These speakers are extremely directional or they wouldn't work as a monitor. They'd just feed back all over the place. They weren't trying to cover their ass or make any kind of excuse. They're hiding nothing and that live set up is completely legit.
Dude the suede on your couch looks as smooth as your playing
It's like when you lift weights and get accused of steroids
👀
*jeff cavalier has entered the chat*
i was gonna say the same thing
*Vitalyzdtv* has entered the chat
Well you still got to lift your ass off even if your on the juice. If you faked lifting on steroids you would just get fat.
The art on the background is a perfectionist's hell
It bugged me so bad but I’ll live hahaha
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one having an ocd episode
Хуясе, не знал, что ты почитатель)
О, здарова)
Сюка, чё ты, чё ты, ты чё, сюка 😂
Thanks Jared for introducing me to a great band.
Whoever accused him must be feeling pretty dumb
He's a dumb mediocre fuck since day one
It was that jared DINES
Lucas debunked every possible angle of “miming” and there are still gonna be people saying it’s fake smh
its funny because Jared Dines still says he wasn't wrong in his apology video😂 Because ROS used mixed tracks and i guess that counts as miming to him.
Oh there definitely are those people. I had one person who kept arguing back and forth with me saying that Lucas admitted to mining in this video and bring up the old MetalSucks drama from the past. 😂
Which is why Lucas and Rings' public image has been permanently and inexorably damaged by Jared. If they don't sue, Jared will keep being the kind of person who says whatever he wants, thinking he's immune. It lowers the bar, makes people lazy in their reporting.
Kirk Haggard
Yeah, me too. Some people already hated RoS to begin with, and now they think their delusions have been brought to life. Now, you’ll never pop the thought bubble that they’ve locked themselves into. Just wait for that generation and their constituents to die off in the next few decades; we should be in the clear then (hopefully).
Edit: GraMMaR
"This guy is too fast and clean, he must be faking it on stage"
*Laughs in Shawn Lane*
Hahaha oh man. Dines would definitely assume Lane was faking.
@@thomasandersson9605 That's because that's NOT his playing, as he explains it in the video.
Thomas Guitar You might want to consider watching the video before commenting so you don’t write embarrassing comments like that.
@Evan Pierce ok I see you Gafgarion
@@thomasandersson9605 How could you dare having Guitar in your name and yet not even be bothered to pay enough attention to find out whether or not that's Mann playing the guitar... Your naiveté is astonishing and it should be embarrassing how you could going through comments spewing the same nonsense when everything is explained in the video that you choose not to watch to save your own argument
Imagine being SO good, you have to make a 41 minute video proving you're real.. what is this world?
Buckethead live made me believe anything on guitar is possible
It makes me sad when my guitar dads fight :(
"Don't lie to ME"
Jared Dines has some hella strong narcissism.
His videos are the drizzling shits
@@theaestheticcactus7889 I've never cared for him. I've watched a couple vids of his only because I watched a Steve Terreberry vid and Jared was a suggested video. Definitely wouldn't go out of my way to watch his nonsense.
He's a pretentious douche who managed to find a fanbase by making generic "metal" videos
@@akillen77 exactly. Not art. Just entertainment.
@@NoName-kv1bd Exactly, and an insane drummer and vocalist.
Wow, this is the single most mature and awesome response I have ever seen. Huge respect!
That part about you losing that endorsement actually hurt to hear. Most people know how good you really are and there’s always jealous assholes that need an excuse to be bad/lazy. Losing an endorsement with a company I can only assume you really like, must have been the biggest kick while you were already down. Now you’ve proven your talent and incredible skill, hopefully those jealous people can now actually strive towards playing like you/to your standard! Keep shredding king❤️
“Guitar is not a sport” -Lucas Mann
Expect this to be in my yearbook when I graduate
My man, did you graduate yet?
"How to try to expose a pro, but have ur envy not-pro ass exposed back" with Jared Dines ft Lucas Mann
" guitar is not a sport. I dont care ". I love this
Jared: “It’s fake.”
Lucas: “I’m about to flip this allegation on its head.”
AMERICAN x NIGHTMARE is it me or does Dines sort of have this complex that no one can be better than him? He makes fun of just about everything. Seems like he has a problem.
The Hulk Absolutely.
@@AleandFire He actually is like that a bit... Pretty insecure I would say...I mean jared is a good guitar player so he should be happy with the gift he has plus he is a good drummer as well,so yeah jared is talented but yeah he has to accept that there's always someone who plays cleaner..
Irony would be if it turns out Dines' playing is fake.
He doesn't do anything remotely that impressive
Randeep Singh that depends on the standard your judging by. Maybe you play at a level in which Jared is not impressive. But I play at a level which I do I him impressive.
Dines is overrated as fuck.
the comments here are pretty true.
@VeloCi_KrT He's not a great drummer either. Everything on RR records is midi.
You were a lot more nice than I would’ve been about the situation. lol you presented yourself in a professional manner though and defended yourself. It’s a shame that talent is overshadowed by people’s speculations in today’s world, but I hope that this is just a stepping stone for you and things do genuinely get better from here on out. best of luck, man.
"I give 0 proof about anything but if you dont like me its because of your insecurities lol"
How do people not understand the concept of tracks? You guys don't have a bassist, a third guitarist, and a synthesizer on stage. How else are you going to get the sound? Personally, I want studio quality when I go to a show, and I've seen nothing but that from Rings of Saturn. You handled yourself well and I applaud you, sir.
No one calls Tomas Haake fake because everybody knows he's a cyborg from the future
Gonna buy those shades so I can wear them in my Cybertruck.
That's next level style son. Save some for the rest of us.
There isn't even anything wrong with using recorded tracks to add flavor to a live show, as long as you aren't pretending that they are done live. Rings of Saturn has never said that any of their live tracks were not live tracks, they have never even implied it. When Periphery plays live, they use a bass track because they have no bass player. Nobody bats an eye, so why do people have a problem when Rings of Saturn does it with their third guitar track? It's not like they're pressing play on a pre-recorded track and saying "hey, this is all me live right now."
I'm just now watching this and one thing I know from going to shows and playing them is alot of bands use a live tracks, especially bands with only one guitarist, or bands with no bassist, same concept with using synths and symphonics for songs.
Lucas is fake, he ain't even a human. He's an alien. His guitar skill is out of this world 👽👽👽
he Pleiadian ( ‾ʖ̫‾)
He's a synth.
He's from the kingdom of fife who escaped the clutches of Zargothrax
he live on saturn
This was handled with class.
I'm super late to this drama. LMFAO. But you know what? You just gained a fan. That was by far the most respectful response I've seen in a long ass time. You are the type of person that is the perfect example of what to be in the metal scene, or as a musician in general . Open minded and Respectful. Cheers.
so i started to listen to you guys a few days ago and i love youre style, what are some of youre best songs that i still can discover? also i love how theirs just a picture of saturn in the background
When the sound tech was talking I could not pay attention. I was looking at the glasses the whole time 😂
Right? Like where do I get a pair like that, dam
Richard R. Patlan so I’m not the only one
@@neonlights_12 they are pretty sick! 😎
@@AbhishekMoktan_bojo for real 😎
@@djyeah-nah9781 👏😂😂
Lucas doesnt even seem mad. Hes just like hey. Lemme prove it to ya
A true representation of a cool dude. Takes the adversity and doubt on the chin and simply proves his skill without throwing shots or shade.
I think he responded perfectly. He's obviously telling the truth so I don't even see a reason why he should he be mad if he can easily prove it. Only liars get aggravated you know
I know this is all old news at this point. However, I just want to applaud you Lucas for such a measured and eloquent response. Your frustration surely was palpable, why would it not be, but you were able to keep it in check to deliver what I believe to be a tasteful response to reprehensible behavior. You set a good example for anyone aspiring to live or work in the public eye as you do with your band and personal brand. Great stuff and keep up the awesome work. Hope you are still doing well!
Love this video. The scandal is interesting, learning about the stage setup is interesting and all the debate surrounding technique, and what is "real music" vs "faking it".
Well done Lucas, great video even if you don't follow ROS. You're very well spoken