The Clever Way Bethesda Punishes It's Criminal NPC's

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  • Опубліковано 28 бер 2020
  • Oblivion's Radiant AI system created some amazing situations but it also came with it's fair share unusual problems. And that means coming up with creative solutions for those problems. But this one might not be as great as it sounds.
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  • @daniels5040
    @daniels5040 4 роки тому +485

    When the guard said: "HRWRARERWR" I really felt that

    • @conorbaker7684
      @conorbaker7684 4 роки тому +34

      Daniels i didnt think anyone could actually put that sound into letters but i read it in my mind perfectly lol

    • @normanmccollum6082
      @normanmccollum6082 2 роки тому +4

      1:07
      Poetic.

    • @kolowatttz5321
      @kolowatttz5321 2 роки тому +3

      This aged like fine 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷

    • @daniels5040
      @daniels5040 2 роки тому +3

      @@kolowatttz5321 have you heard of the High Elves?

    • @MrBuns-yi2hk
      @MrBuns-yi2hk 2 роки тому +3

      So beautiful.

  • @leoncruz7951
    @leoncruz7951 4 роки тому +530

    By Azura! It’s you! The Cantina! Standing here, next to me!

  • @GuyontheInternet525
    @GuyontheInternet525 4 роки тому +722

    Thought this guy was a Dwemer since he was gone for so long

    • @judedavidson857
      @judedavidson857 4 роки тому +3

      That's good

    • @pisscvre69
      @pisscvre69 4 роки тому +2

      I thought he was a friend abandoning me like they all eventually do ᴰᴬᴮˢ づ ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°)づ ᴰᴬᴮˢ づ ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°ᴰᴬᴮˢ づ ͡ ͡° ͜ )づ° ͜ づ ͡ ͡° ͜ ʖ ͡ ͡°)づ ʖ ͡ ͡°° ͜ ʖ°)づ ͡ʖ ͡ ͡°

    • @aarondeancurtis2199
      @aarondeancurtis2199 4 роки тому

      Omg thats hilarous xD

    • @s0uls4nd
      @s0uls4nd 3 роки тому +1

      @@pisscvre69 cringe

  • @owenhall130
    @owenhall130 4 роки тому +723

    By the nine, he's back!

  • @madbrosheo1514
    @madbrosheo1514 4 роки тому +508

    This is one of the biggest things I miss in Skyrim. I don’t blame Bethesda for removing it, but I still miss it.

    • @HoloFizz
      @HoloFizz 4 роки тому +133

      I feel like they should work on improving it and consider putting in back in for the next elderscrolls game... skyrim just felt dead and even though they are potatos, oblivion npcs felt more real.

    • @TheKabuto90
      @TheKabuto90 4 роки тому +9

      Improving it would take a lot of work that's not really worth it when that same work can be put somewhere more important. Even just making it at all was an impressive feat for the time. Still is an impressive feat these a days.

    • @HoloFizz
      @HoloFizz 4 роки тому +55

      @@TheKabuto90 because of the massive cockup that was fallout 76 they need to make something exceptional for their next game (starfield or the next elder scrolls) in order to gain back any sort of respect at all. So I'd say bringing back and fixing the radiant ai system is the right step towards that.

    • @TheKabuto90
      @TheKabuto90 4 роки тому +2

      I highly disagree.

    • @HoloFizz
      @HoloFizz 4 роки тому +43

      @@TheKabuto90 An rpg where the npcs are like brick walls is not going to make people happy. If they can't bring anything new to the table bethesda will be taken over by the company that can.

  • @feddyvonwigglestein3481
    @feddyvonwigglestein3481 4 роки тому +168

    You've just realized that there are no bathrooms in the entire game.

    • @Android-dg5ri
      @Android-dg5ri 4 роки тому +37

      the world of elder scrolls is the cleanest of worlds

    • @chavezhurtado6483
      @chavezhurtado6483 4 роки тому +42

      Android 17 except all the buckets in Skyrim

    • @Android-dg5ri
      @Android-dg5ri 4 роки тому +18

      @@chavezhurtado6483 you right you right. im from the first world so shitting in buckets never dawned on me

    • @superscatboy
      @superscatboy 4 роки тому +7

      @Excuse my Sass Lol whoever told you that was the first world was lying to you.

    • @franktidepod8724
      @franktidepod8724 4 роки тому +18

      The bathrooms were the friends we made along the way.

  • @gabfortin1976
    @gabfortin1976 4 роки тому +1447

    WE MISSED YOU. We actually really did. You have a memorable voice, you're funny and you cover topics no one else does. Freakin' love you man.

  • @sosbro
    @sosbro 4 роки тому +93

    As I recall, npcs going to prisons was an early thing, but prison guards would kill them for their food, since prison guards weren't allowed to leave prison.

  • @rbz0
    @rbz0 4 роки тому +85

    Radiant AI is absolutely amazing, like really amazing. Even if it's bugged, and sometimes NPCs behave in ridiculous ways, there is no better tool for worldbuilding than this. Besides, it's worldbuilding that serves the player and the gameplay directly. As a kid, the idea that NPCs followed a schedule and I had to monitor them to know when to enter their homes and steal their valuables, not to mention the mechanic of making them eat poisoned food, was absolutely great. Too bad they scaled it down. This needs to be back at the forefront of future titles.

    • @whisperuser7323
      @whisperuser7323 2 роки тому +1

      Beth decided to replace it with radiant quests instead. We all love those.

    • @feyenoord1821
      @feyenoord1821 2 роки тому +3

      @@whisperuser7323 i unironically like radiant quests and think it should be in all future beth titles

    • @whisperuser7323
      @whisperuser7323 2 роки тому +1

      @@feyenoord1821 yea, I actually do like them, however skyrim can do them a little bit better than by sending you to non important not quest related locations.

    • @DeisFortuna
      @DeisFortuna Рік тому +6

      300% agree. The main problem was that NPCs couldn't go to jail or pay their fine, so if they *did* commit a crime, they kinda had to fight the guards.

    • @thomasflores7817
      @thomasflores7817 Рік тому +2

      Sadly I fear that future titles will become only more basic

  • @silverbeach1557
    @silverbeach1557 4 роки тому +61

    I never found it strange because every NPC in Oblivion is the type to resist arrest over stealing a fork.

  • @revishon
    @revishon 4 роки тому +154

    I wanna see a solution for a town where they are cool with a necromancer so the people die even more frequently but they just bring em back

  • @sethappleton7628
    @sethappleton7628 4 роки тому +216

    When he said "this is the part where everything gets more complicated." All I heard in my head was
    "This is the part where YOU FALL DOWN AND BLEED TO DEATH"

    • @gokublack8342
      @gokublack8342 4 роки тому +6

      I legit thought he was gonna play that sound

    • @kazmakazii
      @kazmakazii 4 роки тому +6

      "I'VE FOUGHT MUDCRABS MORE FIERCE THAN YOU"

    • @blarg2429
      @blarg2429 3 роки тому

      "WHY! WON'T! YOU! DIE!!"

  • @franktidepod8724
    @franktidepod8724 4 роки тому +21

    Me: _accidentally touches a bowl that's not mine_
    Guard: _swings a sword at me_ *"HUUAARAARRUGH!"*

  • @lladerat
    @lladerat 4 роки тому +273

    I wonder for how many thousands of hours he has played this game.

    • @ericgodoleshi383
      @ericgodoleshi383 4 роки тому +36

      Lazovets He has sacrificed children to the Daedric lords so that he live longer and play this game even more

    • @grefsteel3989
      @grefsteel3989 4 роки тому +5

      i bet 1,5k

    • @darthkek1953
      @darthkek1953 4 роки тому +1

      @@grefsteel3989 That ain't very much, I put 600 hours into Skyrim and I barely touched it.

  • @Notchella1
    @Notchella1 4 роки тому +16

    Here's some ideas building off what you mentioned:
    -The options to resist arrest, pay the fine and go to jail will be dependant on a character's personality and wealth. Hot headed characters would immediately fight, weaker and poorer characters would go to jail, charismatic and wealthy characters would pay a fine and be off. With paying your fine as well every character with this option could have a set amount of money to pay these fines, which they either expand if they're a merchant or thief or if they run out they go to jail
    -For NPC's killed in resist arrest their bodies should despawn after a while or even taken to a nearby gravesite where they're prepared for burial, or do what Morrowind did and let the player have the option to get rid of a body
    -If one prison is full and another NPC is arrested, the NPC who has been in jail the longest is released and the newly arrested NPC is placed in that cell
    -There could be an option to free prisoners, if caught you'll get a bounty, if successfully freed your relationship with that NPC increases and could lead to them giving you secrets and items in exchange for their freedom

  • @6thsavage
    @6thsavage 4 роки тому +128

    Yay, it only took a global pandemic to get a new vid! I love em btw

  • @DemDoolies
    @DemDoolies 4 роки тому +93

    When we thought all hope was lost, the Cantina returns with a BANGER! Hope you're doing well mate

    • @TheCantinaChannel
      @TheCantinaChannel  4 роки тому +24

      Thanks man, I'm doing alright.

    • @WeirdTroll666
      @WeirdTroll666 4 роки тому +8

      @@TheCantinaChannel i was so bored in the quarantine
      Thanks for uploading

  • @Alice0x
    @Alice0x 4 роки тому +30

    I've just started learning to program and it only makes me appreciate Oblivion's buggy glory more. Love the mechanical way you break down the quirky behavior!

    • @greenscheme2040
      @greenscheme2040 4 роки тому +5

      Love that phrase: "Oblivion's buggy glory." It is what keeps pulling me back to the game over and over again. I love Morrowind too but it just doesn't replay as well because you just don't get all these accidentally provided by the software crazy, humorous moments there.

  • @NaelsonDouglas
    @NaelsonDouglas 4 роки тому +41

    I almost had a stroke when the bell notification rung. HE'S BACK!

  • @dakat5131
    @dakat5131 4 роки тому +17

    "it would completely undermine the option to resist arrest(...)"
    That assumes the NPCs understand the rammifications just as well as the players, and wouldn't have any stat or personality or rng that determines whether they do or not.

  • @Jckendall13
    @Jckendall13 4 роки тому +58

    The Cantina its so good to see you back! I watched your let’s play of Oblivion when you did them live and I still watch them to this day!

  • @karinar2101
    @karinar2101 4 роки тому +21

    “He’s back! My [dude] is back!”
    Cicero, I guess

  • @albertolaurella9168
    @albertolaurella9168 4 роки тому +27

    This damn virus been resurrecting so many UA-camrs. I'm so grateful

    • @avaarthurs4001
      @avaarthurs4001 4 роки тому +6

      Alberto Laurella and now we pray sorenova returns.

  • @ALSIVAmusic
    @ALSIVAmusic 4 роки тому +2

    One time, I was wandering around a city (I think Cheydinhal) and saw a Khajit that I recognized as part of the castle staff sneaking around. I thought this was odd, so I followed them around for a bit. They snuck a circle around the town, then up to the castle, where they entered the barracks, and stole a piece of bread off of a table.
    A table that a minimum of three guards were sitting at.
    And was subsequently, almost immediately slaughtered.
    Because the punishment for bread theft is DEATH.

  • @ilovemykitties84
    @ilovemykitties84 4 роки тому +12

    the funniest glitch i found in oblivion, is when you join a guild, then commit a crime and go inside the guild with guards after you, your guildmates will defend you and sometimes go and kill all the guards

    • @olivercuenca4109
      @olivercuenca4109 3 роки тому +2

      My favourite thing was setting off a forever war between the guards and the Arcane University.

    • @ilovemykitties84
      @ilovemykitties84 3 роки тому +2

      @@olivercuenca4109 yeah, until invincible hieronymus lex shows up

  • @dakat5131
    @dakat5131 4 роки тому +7

    These arguments could be used to argue against including anything in a game

  • @saintjiub7530
    @saintjiub7530 4 роки тому +171

    The messiah has returned, rejoice my friends.

    • @WeirdTroll666
      @WeirdTroll666 4 роки тому +6

      You are the messiah saint jiub
      You saved us from the cliffracers

    • @kazmakazii
      @kazmakazii 4 роки тому +2

      Drove them Cliff Racers outta Vvanderfell, Oi've heard.

  • @kalamrashid78
    @kalamrashid78 4 роки тому +28

    After this video and the huge break he had I now know.... This guy is one of the developers of elder scrolls 6 and he is just uploading his complaint on what Todd wants the next game to have.

  • @voldlifilm
    @voldlifilm 4 роки тому +2

    I kinda like how Bethesda created this amazing system, but then nerfed it because it wouldn't fit into their miniature towns of five NPC's. In a procedural worlds with thousands upon thousands of citizens in a big city, a system like Radiant AI would be amazing. The guild of thieves in such a city WOULD be a guild of actual thieves, doing their thing regardless of the player. That would be awesome.

  • @holekholek
    @holekholek 4 роки тому +8

    THE KING IS BACK. MASTER OF UA-cam VIDEOS, WELCOME!

  • @millafox8237
    @millafox8237 4 роки тому +2

    dude i’ve been binging all your oblivion videos for days during this sad dark time in the world and it’s more enjoyable for me than you know. please keep making them! sending my love and stay safe

  • @kirkbupkis
    @kirkbupkis 4 роки тому +1

    I just found your channel because of this video popping into my recommended and I've been binge watching all your videos for the last couple days. I'm glad you came back from such a long hiatus otherwise I may never have discovered your great content! :)

  • @knotz909
    @knotz909 4 роки тому +1

    Time to binge The Cantina videos to celebrate his glorious return!

  • @Konjo316
    @Konjo316 4 роки тому +2

    I swear I strarted rewatching his videos last night thinking when will he upload again and boom here we are. Nice.

  • @quillproductions377
    @quillproductions377 4 роки тому

    It’s great to see you upload another video! Oblivion is one of my favourite games ever and your videos are so entertaining

  • @andydufresne1947
    @andydufresne1947 4 роки тому +2

    4:25 "Like... this Skooma drinking animation" 😭😭😭

  • @LilithEveRain
    @LilithEveRain 4 роки тому +1

    I enjoy your Oblivion videos SO MUCH!!!

  • @themlongplays4961
    @themlongplays4961 4 роки тому

    Holy shit, I f****** love your channel. I can't wait to finish my first playthrough of Oblivion so I can watch the rest of your Oblivion content.

  • @TheSkateNsnow
    @TheSkateNsnow 4 роки тому

    Love your videos man. Missed you! Thank you for Oblivion content!

  • @The_Sharktocrab
    @The_Sharktocrab 3 роки тому +1

    When you said "this is the part" I automatically filled it in with "where you fall down and bleed to death"

  • @Ryan-ij3ge
    @Ryan-ij3ge 4 роки тому

    I actually just watched your video on npc behavior this morning before work. Hours before you released this!

  • @josepha9501
    @josepha9501 4 роки тому +1

    This really makes my work from home a little easier. Looking forward to new content. Keep up the great work!

  • @Phoedox
    @Phoedox 4 роки тому +18

    This is guy is a Oblivion expert he should get a certificate

  • @professordaihard3571
    @professordaihard3571 4 роки тому

    I absolutely love your videos, especially when they are oblivion related. Please keep doing vids like this!!!

  • @odinson5911
    @odinson5911 4 роки тому +43

    Nobody :
    The Cantina : 1 video per year

    • @gigigaou
      @gigigaou 4 роки тому

      He had a problem with his microphone

  • @caz1764
    @caz1764 4 роки тому

    I've just been binging your Oblivion playthrough videos and now you have a brand new vid?? My prayers have been answered!! :D

  • @shadesofslay
    @shadesofslay 4 роки тому

    I’ve missed these videos as well. Watching these got me back into playing Oblivion again.

  • @roseheartfire
    @roseheartfire 4 роки тому

    I was so happy to see this! Love your videos!

  • @luv-lost
    @luv-lost 2 роки тому

    Just found you while binging some Elder Scrolls lore.
    You make some awesome content man, you have a new sub.
    Keep it up! You will grow for sure. I think the subjects you talk about all of us Elders Scrolls fans think about.
    And that is not to downplay your other videos, I like that you have a mix up.
    I'm happy I found your channel and can't wait to watch through the back catalog tonight!

  • @cheeze7700
    @cheeze7700 4 роки тому +1

    Love that you still produce oblivion content. Great vid as always

  • @sbakha9677
    @sbakha9677 4 роки тому

    I really enjoyed the recent npc-focused videos. As much as it was fun to watch your let'splays, Cantina, I honestly like listening to you commenting, deconstructing and just plain talking about Oblivion (and not only Oblivion). It's really worth the wait. Live long and prosper and may your road lead you to warm sands.

  • @wizardom
    @wizardom 4 роки тому +4

    4:32 "Now it's time to fix the copious amount of bugs"
    ***SAID NO BETHESDA EVER***

  • @gastonibarlucea
    @gastonibarlucea 4 роки тому

    glad to have u back. Hope you cover Stalker NPC system one day. That could be great, or at least, i think it!

  • @bawilliams18
    @bawilliams18 4 роки тому

    Welcome back! I have missed your videos. I'd love for you to keep doing questlines in Oblivion, or even Skyrim.

  • @danielhopper8447
    @danielhopper8447 4 роки тому

    This video made my day. Thank you for your glorious return!

  • @bukk_shot
    @bukk_shot 4 роки тому +6

    Primary punishment is well ya know “herrblbll”

  • @mayornaise776
    @mayornaise776 4 роки тому +1

    This is the content I need in these trying times.

  • @dreamingpanda
    @dreamingpanda 4 роки тому

    Holy shit, finally a new video! I re-watched all Oblivion/Morrowind content you had like 4 times the past month or so...

  • @tily5939
    @tily5939 4 роки тому

    This is my first time watching your channel and I think I love it already.

  • @911Maci
    @911Maci 4 роки тому

    i was checking out today and was watching some of your older videos because i didnt see you uploading in a while

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 4 роки тому

    This was pretty interesting, if painfully short! Thanks for uploading!

  • @ohmydaz3
    @ohmydaz3 4 роки тому

    so glad to see a video from you!

  • @jonathanwells223
    @jonathanwells223 4 роки тому +2

    1:07 *angry Wess Johnson noises*

  • @SeanORaigh
    @SeanORaigh 4 роки тому +1

    This is what I needed today, thanks!

  • @alterpls
    @alterpls 4 роки тому +2

    I actually missed your content so much please dont leave us again 😭❤️

  • @WeirdTroll666
    @WeirdTroll666 4 роки тому +3

    Thank god i was so bored in the quarantine
    Now the rpg master has uploaded a new video
    You are the best man
    Continue your amazing content

  • @elianoavila90
    @elianoavila90 4 роки тому +2

    More Oblivion content please!

  • @GreenBean451
    @GreenBean451 4 роки тому

    Great to have you back again. Legit just thought of you and was so excited to see that you just posted a video!

  • @sadboiz4lyfe
    @sadboiz4lyfe 4 роки тому +1

    More Oblivion content from The Cantina! Liked during ad. Still tho, wanna say I actually *like* the vid. SO rewarding to still see so much appreciation for my favorite game.

  • @lordmoldybutt6361
    @lordmoldybutt6361 3 роки тому +1

    You're funny bro. Please don't change your content, you are genuinely unique & it's amazing.

  • @NitsuGaash
    @NitsuGaash 4 роки тому +1

    3:28
    "This is the part..." WHEN YOU FALL DOWN AND BLEED TO DEATH!

  • @bigbobmeyers
    @bigbobmeyers 4 роки тому

    Great video! I’ll see you in august for the next one!

  • @gatodemetadona7056
    @gatodemetadona7056 4 роки тому

    These kind of videos are my favorite

  • @TeamPlayerSelect
    @TeamPlayerSelect 4 роки тому

    WELL MET and welcome back! Love your videos!

  • @M4Production
    @M4Production 4 роки тому +1

    I love the ghost in your unfinished cell, like he got arrested for being a spooky ghost and he went to jail like okay... you got me.. i spooky

  • @InstrumentofRuinInnit
    @InstrumentofRuinInnit 4 роки тому

    Finally, ive been looking forward to this.

  • @misterkid
    @misterkid 4 роки тому +3

    I've never seen an NPC confronted by a guard. I have seen them steal stuff off tables

  • @alexandergonzalezlugo3866
    @alexandergonzalezlugo3866 4 роки тому +6

    Damn, we really missed you. I was looking in your twitter account and everything.

  • @mimmikibilly
    @mimmikibilly 4 роки тому +1

    That "It's all over, lawbreaker!" gave me a warm feeling of nostalgia.

  • @millie9814
    @millie9814 4 роки тому

    This channel is a hidden gem! (Hidden from me, lol, I only just found it and I already love it). Very well made entertaining videos.

  • @donaldsmith4201
    @donaldsmith4201 4 роки тому

    and i thought you were dead. thank you for making a video! we miss you

  • @thomasj.9686
    @thomasj.9686 4 роки тому +1

    I missed this. Such an iconic voice

  • @upsher
    @upsher 4 роки тому

    6:11 - So you solved the problem with Trenus always stucking outside of his destination point. Great job!

  • @Rohdigum123
    @Rohdigum123 4 роки тому +1

    I love how much you love Oblivion and recognize its awesomeness! I still play Oblivion!

  • @andrewn8002
    @andrewn8002 4 роки тому +1

    It's... it's you! The Hero of Kvatch. This truly is an honor!

  • @gordyrroy
    @gordyrroy 4 роки тому

    good to see you around again.

  • @christianalexandermarion
    @christianalexandermarion 4 роки тому +1

    oblivion in 2020? may the night mother wrap you in her cold loving embrace

  • @runningbat1174
    @runningbat1174 4 роки тому

    Where have you been i was waiting for your epic oblivion videos good luck

  • @Krauser975
    @Krauser975 4 роки тому +1

    NO TOUCHING THE LOCKS.
    *Sneak -10*

  • @Squantanamo
    @Squantanamo 4 роки тому +1

    Dude she really just pickpocketed Martin freakin Septim

  • @trashh9016
    @trashh9016 4 роки тому +2

    Yayyyyy, I missed your videos so much

  • @FingerSpazm
    @FingerSpazm 4 роки тому +3

    "You'd have to make an exception for every NPC"
    Idk why this isn't an option. There's not THAT many npcs, it would be tedious but a modder has done this for free

  • @dorianodell8384
    @dorianodell8384 4 роки тому

    Cantina thank you for coming back, I read your post saying there's gonna be a video and you were dealing with a lot and we understand, but we did miss you a lot

  • @thearchmagiste
    @thearchmagiste 4 роки тому +1

    Good to have you back!

  • @Coolman42night
    @Coolman42night 4 роки тому

    I recently discovered you bro, but I must say that your videos are most well done, funny, amusing and interesting. Kudos!

  • @Trigger99X
    @Trigger99X 4 роки тому +3

    The AI is one of the things that make this my favorite ES game

  • @rjheng228
    @rjheng228 4 роки тому

    Sir thank you for taking the time to make videos sir. Very much appreciated u and miss your content sir

  • @adamsilzell4968
    @adamsilzell4968 4 роки тому

    Glad to see you back!

  • @SirRavix
    @SirRavix 4 роки тому +4

    Welcome back!
    If they could make it work, it would be pretty awesome...

  • @MartynofCarcosa
    @MartynofCarcosa 4 роки тому

    You've been sorely missed bro. Welcome back