Thank you for this wonderful review. I have been seriously thinking of buying an ST5. I have an ST2s. I LOVE THAT BIKE. I ride it to work everyday (34 miles). I have a Body Float, front suspension, and a rack. I have put over 10,000 miles on the bike and just flat tires and a motor cable. Stromer replaced the cable sensor, but it didn't really need it. A couple of the bulbs have burned out on the light and they said they will replace it. Nothing in life is more pleasurable than having the perfect bike. I am also thinking of buying an M1 Sporttechnik. I have owned over 15 electric bikes. . . my Stromer is definitely the best. I wish you many year of joy on your bike.
Awesome, i drove a few ebikes and the stromer is by far the best. If you ever buy the m1 make sure to review it ;) the m1 seems amazing, but i feel like it still can't match the feel of the stromer. pedal torque sensor just gives amazing control of the bike and makes you feel like superman.
@@digibyke5898 Yes, I did buy the M1. It is a great bike; however, I ride my St5 more. The M1 is louder than the Stromer. Not super loud. . . but detectable. The M1 is a nice bike. The customer service in the US is nonexistent. I have owned my M1 for less than one year. Although I have not had any serious problems, the distributor will not assist in any way. For example, the rubber that attaches the battery under the down tube is separating from the bike frame. . . customer service solution. . . . "we'll send you some glue in a couple of months". Also the read out on the M1 is in German. . . . The first time I turned the bike on, it was in English. But then it switches over. Customer service from the bike shop responded and said That's impossible. . . so I sent them pictures. Then they said. . . deal with it, we don't know how to fix it. I don't ride my M1 nearly as much as I ride my ST5. My ST5 is a daily commuter (50 miles a day). It has held up well. I did do a tubeless setup and I still got a flat. The sensors on the motor went dead on the way home a couple of days ago and I got a good workout for the last several miles (no assistance). I will try to get it to the dealer tomorrow, and see why everything went dead. It is just over a year old. Sometimes when I got on the bike, it would just "lurch" forward. Now, unfortunately, it is dead. It will be interesting to see why. Also the seat on the ST5 already has holes, which I feel should be covered by the warranty. . . I actually covered the seat and have a pad, so the part which shows wear has never been sat on. I also have an ST2s. I am riding that bike now. Flat tires are still a problem on the ST2s. Some bike shops tell me that the rims are tubeless ready. But other bike shops say they are not. The tape on the rims says they are tubeless ready. Unfortunately in CA right now bike shops are in very high demand. Sometimes you wait in line just to get in the door. If ever someone wanted to open a bike shop in the US (especially in CA. . . now is the time. The light on my St2s went out. I took it back to the dealer. The replacement light came, but it was wired for the ST5. The lights look the same but are wired differently. The dealer sent the ST5 light back. I have been waiting for the ST2s light for over a year. . . the dealer told me the "ticket" still shows "active". I spend about 4 hours a day on one of my three E-bikes. . . probably on average more, now that I am out of work. I have owned many E-bikes and am working on an article to test if an E-bike can actually replace a car over the long-term. . . So far I only use my car to take my E-bikes to the shop. On average that is once every 1000 miles. Is it worth it to spend 8k - 10k on an electric bike? Answer: If you plan to use the bike 80-90% over a car, yes, it is worth it. Stromer is by far the best commuter bike. I have owned or have tested almost all the high-end brands (and most "value" bikes). If you want to buy an E-mountain bike, look no further than the M1-Sporttechnik. This brand is head and shoulders above any and all other E-mountain bikes. Specialized, Haibike and all other brands pale in comparison. I reluctantly give them a complement and I'm sure my tone will turn if I do have any issues; but, until then, the German engineered bikes are metaphorically as efficient as the watches that also earned a "lifetime" efficiency reputation. In Europe engineering is an art form. My friend at the gym wanted to trade me his convertible Mercedes for my ST5. I briefly considered it until I saw his Mercedes was automatic. That's almost like having a Rolex clock radio.
I have the ST1. The battery for extended life is $950. Us that's a nice bike. Mine will do about 28 miles an hour. Keep a 25 mile per hour Pace. No problem. I enjoyed for commuting. It gets me where I need to go a couple cities away. No problem. The only thing I dislike about it, it's very heavy. But that's okay slices through wind. Very easily
I have the ST2 and it has been great. 2000 km and zero problems. i had to calibrate the sensor a few times but that is easy. When I bought the bike the dealer said he would give me a free upgrade to the new Omni when they came out. I thought it was going to be a much bigger upgrade. I tried it on the ST5 and said nah I will just keep mine. Mine fires up instantly. It only takes a second to enter the pin to unlock it and only a second to lock it. I like the brighter front light and active break lights on the St5 though. Sharp looking ride. Total blast to ride.
awsome! Yeah the new omni takes much longer to start. the upsides are 3G, which means the tracking of the bike now works really well, unlocking is the same speed and goes automatically if you approach the bike over bluetooth. While the upgrade is worth it in my opinion i wouldn't pay for it either on an st2.
The ST5 (version 2019) of the Omni screen is very quick as well now, changing automatically for dark mode very rapidly, and you can switch off quickly as well. The Super nova light is also changing power of the light (road mode) automatically depending on the outside luminosity.
Do you recommend the Kinect BodyFloat for regular flat road use? Potentially I'll ride on some rocky road, but not hills, dirt and gravel like you do sometimes. Also: Do you think a Abus Bordo 6500 can be mounted next to your drink holder, like on the pole your seat is mounted to? It looked tight in the shop but couldn't get it to test if it would fit.
It most likely fits, my father has one of those, personally I dont use a lock at all, just the electric motor lock. but depending where you live its not advisable. I like the abus shield series of locks for example the pro shield 5850. can be mounted on the frame, no need to handle the lock. The Bodyfloat, I would totally recommend it, I did not mind at first, I mostly ride only roads, but I hate going over even the slightest obstacle on the road, just an uneven spot hurts already.
So the BodyFloat made it easier to go over uneven spots, right? And I don't have much choice on the lock, it has to be a ART2 approved slot. (Insurance...) But the Pro shield 5850 is actually a possibility as it's ART 2 approved. I'm not sure I like the look of a ring slot on a ST5 tho. It would definitely be way more convenient.
@@rsrsrsrsrs618 exactly, it just absorbs bumps for your ass and back. the shield frame locks fit in quite nicely above the back wheel. on the st2 it looks very well integrated. I recommend getting the rear rack for bags or baskets anyways, and between the rack and the seatpost it fits in very well.
Thanks! Turns out it's really hard still at this point to find reviews. One question I can't find answers to in particular is how the "second screen" works. As I understand, this is "just" a mount in the handle bar stem. What's the connector? What's included? What do I need to buy to make it work? Thank you!
It is An SB Connect connector. the mount is on the Stem you can see it in this video. it comes with a sticker that you can stick to the back of your phone or phone case
InSight Show perfect, thank you! I saw the connector briefly but I didn't know it was all included. That's handy. I'll just stick the mount to my case then (once I have the bike - I did order but waiting now and I can't wait 😂). Thanks again!
Is that a number plate on the back? It sounds like you are in Europe and like the UK there are probably laws governing the maximum speed of an ebike (it's 25km/h in UK) and maybe you have had to register it. It looks like a great bike - I thought the Riess & Muller NuVInci Delite was expensive but at £8995 GBP this is in a different league!
Max Brod i live in switzerland with ebikes up to 45km allowed including bike lanes. in eu its the same but bike lanes are not allowed. but over 25 gives the need to pick up a license plate.
You didn't talk about the electric gear shifter. Do you like it? I took the ST2 for a testride and it was slightly sloppy when shifting while pedelling. How does this one feel?
@@nastythomashobbs which years model did you get? i guess you are right the shifting on an st2 is crisp on an st2, if it is properly calibrated. i love the mechanical feel, especially of the 2018 models with only one shifter on the right for the rear derailleur.
Thanks so much for the review. Now it has been over a month. What are you noticing about the bike? You mentioned the vibration in S mode. Is that still an issue or did you figure out where it was coming from? Also, could you talk a little about the cost of ownership such as how much it is costing you to charge it? I'm also interested when you get the rack for the back how that impacts your ride. Finally, you mentioned going on a longer ride in this video. So, how long did it really give you? If you could include your weight, that would be helpful to get a sense as well. I really want to purchase this bike. It's just coming out now in the US.
hello, good questions. Overall I must say I am positively surprised. I was initially skeptical, but the bike turns out to be absolutely perfect in every way. The vibration I mentioned, came from the license plate. I must have mounted it wrong, it was a hassle to put it on anyways. I put a spacer in between, now the bike is dead silent. the st2 was pretty quiet, but this is literally just as silent as a normal bike if not even more. it costs me around 1.4 usd for 1000km if I use the full power mode. with power line costs, it might be closer to 2 usd for 1000km. the rack will probably feel exactly the same. the old st2 had a rack, and I barely feel a difference. the rack comes in September. I got around 1500km on record with the bike. My long ride was 70km one way with 900m incline total, and it took me 1.55 hours. the battery literally lasts for 60km as advertised on max power. (so does the old st2 after 3 years, still 60km on a full charge) I tweaked the power level 2 to support up to 48km/h (full speed) as well, but reduce the torqe on start and the agility in the app. that did not change much, but extends the range up to 90km. I weigh around 76kg. if you are heavier, that will reduce the uphill capabilities. for me it never throttles If I hold a speed between 20km/h+ uphill, which is easy.
I also changed the seat back to the ergon saddle, its just so much better, no need for a shitty gel saddle. the spring seatpost suspension is a great, great addition.
my happiness increased. I had it for 3 weeks, and 950km on it. I went up mountains, up to 2200m, and regular trips. it is really great. at the beginning I was bummed out it appeared not to be much better than the st2. but It is. so im super happy.
Hello Stromer rider I've got mine last August and have now over 150km with 2 long trips of 87 km and 61 km in the mountain (I am living close to Swiss / French border). I bought it for commuting sometimes when weather conditions are fine (one way trip to go to work ois approx. 40-45km and same distance for going back home), but also for local short distance to avoid the car, even if I am living in a region where there is no flat areas and roads, reason why e-bikes are helpful and really a pleasure to ride, faster and quicker. My questions: 1) I do not understand how to activate the breaking system to slow down automatically and charge battery when going down (from top of the mountain we ride). How do you do this ? (your explanation in the video is not clear (voice) and demo not so self-explanatory. Do you need to activate the brake lever (the right side) ? 2) You change your seat post and me too but for another one which I find not enough comfortable to absorb shocks from the road, even though the Pirelli tires can absorb quite a lot globally). What is the diameter of the seat post (if I need to order a new one on Amazon or elsewhere? This is not indicated on the technical guide of the Stromer). Any thoughts ? Thanks
Hi Al Py. There are several options to activate the recoup braking. If you hold down the minus (-) button for 2 seconds, you will go into recoup mode, ideal for long downhill descents. with plus and minus you can then switch between levels of braking/recharging. level 0 to 5, indicated with black arrows on the display. 0 arrows means recoup is off and no breaking, 5 arrows is the highest braking power. in the menu of the bike display or in the app you can find a setting called brake strength or something about brakes. this lets you adjust how strong the motor breaks when you pull the lever lightly. i use the max strength. holding the lever lightly equals braking level 5.
about the seatpost, just tell your bike shop where you got the bike from to order a bodyfloat seatpost for the stromer. thats the one i have. expensive but the best one.
@@Ropetable Yes Thanks for the details and I have tested yesterday for commuting (49km one way in a mountain area !). That works well, slowing down the bike really efficiently when road is really inclined and we do not want to use brakes.
@@Ropetable Actually I have a Cane Creak but ridiculous efficiency as it does not absorb shock sufficiently since our roads are not so well done. I have cleaned up the bike yesterday and looked into the seatpost and it is 31.6 diameter. So I now know which one I need.
hey man, yeah im super happy with it still. Been going strong with no issues for quite some time. i love the fact that the motor is gearless and maintenance free. And performance still holds up, still nothing faster (street legal) out there.
Hello again InsightShow, how do you clean your St5. Personally, I spray with water (very low pressure from a 1m distance). After that I use Motorex bike clean I spray on a fiber cloth then I rinse with water (spray) and then wipe the bike with another fiber cloth. I've got also Motorex, how and when do you use motorex bike shine ? Thanks to share
i also spray it with low pressure, use soap water and a sponge to clean it, the chain i use motorex degreaser and medium to high pressure water stream. if necessary a brush but normally the water does the job. i sun dry it then wipe down the bike with bike shine using disposable high quality kitchen paper. with the paper i can distribute the shine without having to sray it directly on the bike. i also use the kitchen paper to wipe the chain.
have you set up the app on your phone? Either way, immediately call stromer and let them know it was stolen. they will track it and help retrieve it. On your phone if you have registered it with the app you can track it yourself. Stromer will be able to track it no matter what.
Nice revieuw. It is a very nice, very good looking bike. For going off road it is'nt made for it. Off road you got the advantidge of the motor but the disadvantidge of the weight and lack of suspension. Up hill you win and you'll lose it all in the downhill. My DIY is full suspension (1/6 of the cost, ALL maintenance at home) but with 2x the power AND 2x the torque you have to let me go on any terrain of your choise with less comfort. But it isn't looking as nice, there you have won with (hundred of) miles ahead. Damned nice bike...:) Congrats
I think is absurd for a 9900 euro bike to have that screen defect (popping out), take soo much time to boot up and have that problem with the disk brake when you turn.
i was using it outside of what it is thought for, very bumpy terrain. i tightened it by hand and got it replaced. the boot up of the cheaper bike is faster, its just additional software. The stuff with the breakes is my own fault for transporting it with not enough care.
Hi, the second screen feature appears to be just your phone. Maybe something will get added in the future. but so far there is no special overview on the app or something.
Try adjusting tire pressure, lower pressure give less rolling resistance, so you can go faster with less energy. But not too low. So try different pressure until it suits you.
InSight Show how so ? Is the rolloff not the best ? You also mentioned quality control issues and you said you bike is not great off road so how is the strommer better b
quality control issues were frequent in 2015, but everything is under warranty, so it will get fixed anyways. the bike is good off road, but you need to add a spring loaded seatpost and a front suspension fork, then it is great for off road too. if you plan to go offroad a lot, I agree the riese and müller bikes are great, any modern e mountainbike has advantages, but to note is that all these cut off power at 25km/h, this one goes up to 48km/h. overall this is still the better bike. the haibike speed pedelec mountainbike hybrid will probably beat this in all aspects of off road.
where is the suspension on the bike ? LOL... 5 grands for what ?. And yes it can do 100km with the lowest pas setting but who buys a expensive bike to do it at pas 1 ? LOL nobody!.
it is 10 grand, it can do 180km on the lowest setting, and the lowest setting is comparable with normal e-bikes, so yes if I go for a 100km drive I drive in mode 1. sometimes I drive with electricity completely off. after riding for a long time now, I am fitter and fitter. I started off with only driving in highest speed
I have a Stromer st2. from my experience owning a Stromer the seat ride is terrible. doesn't feel like you driving a luxurious e-bike. The brakes have been terrible as well. don't know how many times I've gone to fix my brakes which costing a lot of money. Not sure of the Stromer st2 s worth buying. I probably won't be buying the st5 .
Thanks for mentioning this. I have been searching and viewing ebikes for a while and thinking about get the Riese and Muller Delite HS with Rohloff. It just seems more luxurious in comparison. I've ridden my hard-tail mt bike at high speeds and I dont like the feeling of instability. I think a full suspension solves this issue.
Raynell Holmes I brought the ST1 x and haven’t any problem with my stromer. I would highly recommend the stromer for the gps. Cause if you get it stolen it’s a big chance you might be able to the bike.
Overpriced piece of garbage...you can get waaaaaay more for that much money. I’m not talking cheap stuff...I’m talking about quality materials, better motor, full suspension, better range, etc. I still don’t understand why Stromer is so popular.
@@mehrdadhaghighi5140 looks like the run of the mill e-bike. The bosch motor is much less powerful, even the new one. Shifting and brakes are a step down, the st5 has much better integration, the battery is much smaller, less range, the motor is not nicely integrated, the bike has no simcard and tracking and electronic lock. Its probably good value, but i would not want to go a day without the electronic lock, so convenient. for suspension i got the front fork, and a suspension seatpost. Been through snow, mud, trails, gravel and road without issue. So all those features give it at least the right to be an option. It also has a hub motor which in city is a benefit. More power to the wheel. The st5 is from 2018 and features are not yet matched.
Thank you for this wonderful review. I have been seriously thinking of buying an ST5. I have an ST2s. I LOVE THAT BIKE. I ride it to work everyday (34 miles). I have a Body Float, front suspension, and a rack. I have put over 10,000 miles on the bike and just flat tires and a motor cable. Stromer replaced the cable sensor, but it didn't really need it. A couple of the bulbs have burned out on the light and they said they will replace it. Nothing in life is more pleasurable than having the perfect bike. I am also thinking of buying an M1 Sporttechnik. I have owned over 15 electric bikes. . . my Stromer is definitely the best. I wish you many year of joy on your bike.
Awesome, i drove a few ebikes and the stromer is by far the best. If you ever buy the m1 make sure to review it ;) the m1 seems amazing, but i feel like it still can't match the feel of the stromer. pedal torque sensor just gives amazing control of the bike and makes you feel like superman.
@@digibyke5898 Yes, I did buy the M1. It is a great bike; however, I ride my St5 more. The M1 is louder than the Stromer. Not super loud. . . but detectable. The M1 is a nice bike. The customer service in the US is nonexistent. I have owned my M1 for less than one year. Although I have not had any serious problems, the distributor will not assist in any way. For example, the rubber that attaches the battery under the down tube is separating from the bike frame. . . customer service solution. . . . "we'll send you some glue in a couple of months". Also the read out on the M1 is in German. . . . The first time I turned the bike on, it was in English. But then it switches over. Customer service from the bike shop responded and said That's impossible. . . so I sent them pictures. Then they said. . . deal with it, we don't know how to fix it. I don't ride my M1 nearly as much as I ride my ST5.
My ST5 is a daily commuter (50 miles a day). It has held up well. I did do a tubeless setup and I still got a flat. The sensors on the motor went dead on the way home a couple of days ago and I got a good workout for the last several miles (no assistance). I will try to get it to the dealer tomorrow, and see why everything went dead. It is just over a year old. Sometimes when I got on the bike, it would just "lurch" forward. Now, unfortunately, it is dead. It will be interesting to see why.
Also the seat on the ST5 already has holes, which I feel should be covered by the warranty. . . I actually covered the seat and have a pad, so the part which shows wear has never been sat on.
I also have an ST2s. I am riding that bike now. Flat tires are still a problem on the ST2s. Some bike shops tell me that the rims are tubeless ready. But other bike shops say they are not. The tape on the rims says they are tubeless ready. Unfortunately in CA right now bike shops are in very high demand. Sometimes you wait in line just to get in the door. If ever someone wanted to open a bike shop in the US (especially in CA. . . now is the time.
The light on my St2s went out. I took it back to the dealer. The replacement light came, but it was wired for the ST5. The lights look the same but are wired differently. The dealer sent the ST5 light back. I have been waiting for the ST2s light for over a year. . . the dealer told me the "ticket" still shows "active".
I spend about 4 hours a day on one of my three E-bikes. . . probably on average more, now that I am out of work. I have owned many E-bikes and am working on an article to test if an E-bike can actually replace a car over the long-term. . . So far I only use my car to take my E-bikes to the shop. On average that is once every 1000 miles.
Is it worth it to spend 8k - 10k on an electric bike? Answer: If you plan to use the bike 80-90% over a car, yes, it is worth it. Stromer is by far the best commuter bike. I have owned or have tested almost all the high-end brands (and most "value" bikes).
If you want to buy an E-mountain bike, look no further than the M1-Sporttechnik. This brand is head and shoulders above any and all other E-mountain bikes. Specialized, Haibike and all other brands pale in comparison. I reluctantly give them a complement and I'm sure my tone will turn if I do have any issues; but, until then, the German engineered bikes are metaphorically as efficient as the watches that also earned a "lifetime" efficiency reputation. In Europe engineering is an art form. My friend at the gym wanted to trade me his convertible Mercedes for my ST5. I briefly considered it until I saw his Mercedes was automatic. That's almost like having a Rolex clock radio.
I have the ST1. The battery for extended life is $950. Us that's a nice bike. Mine will do about 28 miles an hour. Keep a 25 mile per hour Pace. No problem. I enjoyed for commuting. It gets me where I need to go a couple cities away. No problem. The only thing I dislike about it, it's very heavy. But that's okay slices through wind. Very easily
The Bugatti of E-bikes.
On cleaning the ST5. Consider purchasing a Park Tool PCS-10 or PRS-25. I have latter and use a Park Tool CM-25 for cleaning the chain.
I couldn't be more jealous
may you get your dreambike as well
I have the ST2 and it has been great. 2000 km and zero problems. i had to calibrate the sensor a few times but that is easy. When I bought the bike the dealer said he would give me a free upgrade to the new Omni when they came out. I thought it was going to be a much bigger upgrade. I tried it on the ST5 and said nah I will just keep mine. Mine fires up instantly. It only takes a second to enter the pin to unlock it and only a second to lock it. I like the brighter front light and active break lights on the St5 though. Sharp looking ride. Total blast to ride.
awsome! Yeah the new omni takes much longer to start. the upsides are 3G, which means the tracking of the bike now works really well, unlocking is the same speed and goes automatically if you approach the bike over bluetooth. While the upgrade is worth it in my opinion i wouldn't pay for it either on an st2.
The ST5 (version 2019) of the Omni screen is very quick as well now, changing automatically for dark mode very rapidly, and you can switch off quickly as well. The Super nova light is also changing power of the light (road mode) automatically depending on the outside luminosity.
Do you recommend the Kinect BodyFloat for regular flat road use? Potentially I'll ride on some rocky road, but not hills, dirt and gravel like you do sometimes.
Also: Do you think a Abus Bordo 6500 can be mounted next to your drink holder, like on the pole your seat is mounted to? It looked tight in the shop but couldn't get it to test if it would fit.
It most likely fits, my father has one of those, personally I dont use a lock at all, just the electric motor lock. but depending where you live its not advisable. I like the abus shield series of locks for example the pro shield 5850. can be mounted on the frame, no need to handle the lock. The Bodyfloat, I would totally recommend it, I did not mind at first, I mostly ride only roads, but I hate going over even the slightest obstacle on the road, just an uneven spot hurts already.
So the BodyFloat made it easier to go over uneven spots, right?
And I don't have much choice on the lock, it has to be a ART2 approved slot. (Insurance...) But the Pro shield 5850 is actually a possibility as it's ART 2 approved. I'm not sure I like the look of a ring slot on a ST5 tho. It would definitely be way more convenient.
@@rsrsrsrsrs618 exactly, it just absorbs bumps for your ass and back. the shield frame locks fit in quite nicely above the back wheel. on the st2 it looks very well integrated. I recommend getting the rear rack for bags or baskets anyways, and between the rack and the seatpost it fits in very well.
Thanks! Turns out it's really hard still at this point to find reviews. One question I can't find answers to in particular is how the "second screen" works. As I understand, this is "just" a mount in the handle bar stem. What's the connector? What's included? What do I need to buy to make it work? Thank you!
It is An SB Connect connector. the mount is on the Stem you can see it in this video. it comes with a sticker that you can stick to the back of your phone or phone case
no need to buy anything. its all included, if you dont want the mount permanently stuck to your phone just buy a case for it and stick it to that
InSight Show perfect, thank you! I saw the connector briefly but I didn't know it was all included. That's handy. I'll just stick the mount to my case then (once I have the bike - I did order but waiting now and I can't wait 😂). Thanks again!
Is that a number plate on the back? It sounds like you are in Europe and like the UK there are probably laws governing the maximum speed of an ebike (it's 25km/h in UK) and maybe you have had to register it. It looks like a great bike - I thought the Riess & Muller NuVInci Delite was expensive but at £8995 GBP this is in a different league!
Max Brod i live in switzerland with ebikes up to 45km allowed including bike lanes. in eu its the same but bike lanes are not allowed. but over 25 gives the need to pick up a license plate.
You didn't talk about the electric gear shifter. Do you like it? I took the ST2 for a testride and it was slightly sloppy when shifting while pedelling. How does this one feel?
the st2 is indeed a little sloppy. this is state of the art electronic shifting, and smooth as hell. I like it a lot.
@@Ropetable Electronic shifting is superior but the ST2 has Shimano xt gears. Nothing sloppy about them unless they are not calibrated.
@@nastythomashobbs which years model did you get? i guess you are right the shifting on an st2 is crisp on an st2, if it is properly calibrated. i love the mechanical feel, especially of the 2018 models with only one shifter on the right for the rear derailleur.
Thanks so much for the review. Now it has been over a month. What are you noticing about the bike?
You mentioned the vibration in S mode. Is that still an issue or did you figure out where it was coming from? Also, could you talk a little about the cost of ownership such as how much it is costing you to charge it? I'm also interested when you get the rack for the back how that impacts your ride. Finally, you mentioned going on a longer ride in this video. So, how long did it really give you? If you could include your weight, that would be helpful to get a sense as well.
I really want to purchase this bike. It's just coming out now in the US.
hello, good questions. Overall I must say I am positively surprised. I was initially skeptical, but the bike turns out to be absolutely perfect in every way.
The vibration I mentioned, came from the license plate. I must have mounted it wrong, it was a hassle to put it on anyways. I put a spacer in between, now the bike is dead silent. the st2 was pretty quiet, but this is literally just as silent as a normal bike if not even more. it costs me around 1.4 usd for 1000km if I use the full power mode. with power line costs, it might be closer to 2 usd for 1000km. the rack will probably feel exactly the same. the old st2 had a rack, and I barely feel a difference. the rack comes in September. I got around 1500km on record with the bike. My long ride was 70km one way with 900m incline total, and it took me 1.55 hours. the battery literally lasts for 60km as advertised on max power. (so does the old st2 after 3 years, still 60km on a full charge) I tweaked the power level 2 to support up to 48km/h (full speed) as well, but reduce the torqe on start and the agility in the app. that did not change much, but extends the range up to 90km. I weigh around 76kg. if you are heavier, that will reduce the uphill capabilities. for me it never throttles If I hold a speed between 20km/h+ uphill, which is easy.
I also changed the seat back to the ergon saddle, its just so much better, no need for a shitty gel saddle. the spring seatpost suspension is a great, great addition.
Still happy with your bike? No hangover?
my happiness increased. I had it for 3 weeks, and 950km on it. I went up mountains, up to 2200m, and regular trips. it is really great. at the beginning I was bummed out it appeared not to be much better than the st2. but It is. so im super happy.
Stll happy with the bike?
Hello Stromer rider
I've got mine last August and have now over 150km with 2 long trips of 87 km and 61 km in the mountain (I am living close to Swiss / French border).
I bought it for commuting sometimes when weather conditions are fine (one way trip to go to work ois approx. 40-45km and same distance for going back home), but also for local short distance to avoid the car, even if I am living in a region where there is no flat areas and roads, reason why e-bikes are helpful and really a pleasure to ride, faster and quicker.
My questions:
1) I do not understand how to activate the breaking system to slow down automatically and charge battery when going down (from top of the mountain we ride). How do you do this ? (your explanation in the video is not clear (voice) and demo not so self-explanatory.
Do you need to activate the brake lever (the right side) ?
2) You change your seat post and me too but for another one which I find not enough comfortable to absorb shocks from the road, even though the Pirelli tires can absorb quite a lot globally). What is the diameter of the seat post (if I need to order a new one on Amazon or elsewhere? This is not indicated on the technical guide of the Stromer). Any thoughts ?
Thanks
Hi Al Py. There are several options to activate the recoup braking. If you hold down the minus (-) button for 2 seconds, you will go into recoup mode, ideal for long downhill descents. with plus and minus you can then switch between levels of braking/recharging. level 0 to 5, indicated with black arrows on the display. 0 arrows means recoup is off and no breaking, 5 arrows is the highest braking power. in the menu of the bike display or in the app you can find a setting called brake strength or something about brakes. this lets you adjust how strong the motor breaks when you pull the lever lightly. i use the max strength. holding the lever lightly equals braking level 5.
about the seatpost, just tell your bike shop where you got the bike from to order a bodyfloat seatpost for the stromer. thats the one i have. expensive but the best one.
If you have more questions, i could make a video to help you out.
@@Ropetable Yes Thanks for the details and I have tested yesterday for commuting (49km one way in a mountain area !). That works well, slowing down the bike really efficiently when road is really inclined and we do not want to use brakes.
@@Ropetable Actually I have a Cane Creak but ridiculous efficiency as it does not absorb shock sufficiently since our roads are not so well done. I have cleaned up the bike yesterday and looked into the seatpost and it is 31.6 diameter. So I now know which one I need.
Still happy with the bike? Did you have many problems?
hey man, yeah im super happy with it still. Been going strong with no issues for quite some time. i love the fact that the motor is gearless and maintenance free. And performance still holds up, still nothing faster (street legal) out there.
I have purchased also one with suspension ond the front and the seat. I receive the bike over 3 weeks.
Hello again InsightShow, how do you clean your St5. Personally, I spray with water (very low pressure from a 1m distance). After that I use Motorex bike clean I spray on a fiber cloth then I rinse with water (spray) and then wipe the bike with another fiber cloth.
I've got also Motorex, how and when do you use motorex bike shine ?
Thanks to share
i also spray it with low pressure, use soap water and a sponge to clean it, the chain i use motorex degreaser and medium to high pressure water stream. if necessary a brush but normally the water does the job. i sun dry it then wipe down the bike with bike shine using disposable high quality kitchen paper. with the paper i can distribute the shine without having to sray it directly on the bike. i also use the kitchen paper to wipe the chain.
@@Ropetable thanks !
My st5 got stolen
How can i find it via GPS ?
have you set up the app on your phone? Either way, immediately call stromer and let them know it was stolen. they will track it and help retrieve it. On your phone if you have registered it with the app you can track it yourself. Stromer will be able to track it no matter what.
Nice revieuw. It is a very nice, very good looking bike. For going off road it is'nt made for it. Off road you got the advantidge of the motor but the disadvantidge of the weight and lack of suspension. Up hill you win and you'll lose it all in the downhill.
My DIY is full suspension (1/6 of the cost, ALL maintenance at home) but with 2x the power AND 2x the torque you have to let me go on any terrain of your choise with less comfort. But it isn't looking as nice, there you have won with (hundred of) miles ahead. Damned nice bike...:) Congrats
i will add front suspension, and the seat suspension dampens bumps as well. Ofc still not the best comfort off road :(
Binnen enkele dagen heb ik m'n ST5 met ABS. Kan niet wachten, ik kom van een ST3.
I think is absurd for a 9900 euro bike to have that screen defect (popping out), take soo much time to boot up and have that problem with the disk brake when you turn.
i was using it outside of what it is thought for, very bumpy terrain. i tightened it by hand and got it replaced. the boot up of the cheaper bike is faster, its just additional software. The stuff with the breakes is my own fault for transporting it with not enough care.
I think this bike looks great except for the fact that the display is not on top of the handlebars.
thats where the phone mount is. the phone is supposed to be the screen
Hi, can you make a video showing the "second screen" feature? What do you see on the smartphone screen while riding?
Hi, the second screen feature appears to be just your phone. Maybe something will get added in the future. but so far there is no special overview on the app or something.
Try adjusting tire pressure, lower pressure give less rolling resistance, so you can go faster with less energy. But not too low. So try different pressure until it suits you.
Lower pressure give MORE rolling resistance, because off the bigger contact surface.
Is the Reise and Muller a better bike delite with the Rolloff
riese and müller has great bikes. cant compare to this one though.
InSight Show how so ? Is the rolloff not the best ? You also mentioned quality control issues and you said you bike is not great off road so how is the strommer better b
quality control issues were frequent in 2015, but everything is under warranty, so it will get fixed anyways. the bike is good off road, but you need to add a spring loaded seatpost and a front suspension fork, then it is great for off road too. if you plan to go offroad a lot, I agree the riese and müller bikes are great, any modern e mountainbike has advantages, but to note is that all these cut off power at 25km/h, this one goes up to 48km/h. overall this is still the better bike. the haibike speed pedelec mountainbike hybrid will probably beat this in all aspects of off road.
Will you do more ride videos ?
maybe. I would love to but I dont have the equipment to film while riding.
where is the suspension on the bike ? LOL... 5 grands for what ?. And yes it can do 100km with the lowest pas setting but who buys a expensive bike to do it at pas 1 ? LOL nobody!.
it is 10 grand, it can do 180km on the lowest setting, and the lowest setting is comparable with normal e-bikes, so yes if I go for a 100km drive I drive in mode 1. sometimes I drive with electricity completely off. after riding for a long time now, I am fitter and fitter. I started off with only driving in highest speed
I have a Stromer st2. from my experience owning a Stromer the seat ride is terrible. doesn't feel like you driving a luxurious e-bike. The brakes have been terrible as well. don't know how many times I've gone to fix my brakes which costing a lot of money. Not sure of the Stromer st2 s worth buying. I probably won't be buying the st5 .
Thanks for mentioning this. I have been searching and viewing ebikes for a while and thinking about get the Riese and Muller Delite HS with Rohloff. It just seems more luxurious in comparison. I've ridden my hard-tail mt bike at high speeds and I dont like the feeling of instability. I think a full suspension solves this issue.
@@raynellholmes1011 i think that a good choice. The new multicharger might be my next ebike. I like the way raise and Muller ride.
Raynell Holmes I brought the ST1 x and haven’t any problem with my stromer. I would highly recommend the stromer for the gps. Cause if you get it stolen it’s a big chance you might be able to the bike.
Overpriced piece of garbage...you can get waaaaaay more for that much money. I’m not talking cheap stuff...I’m talking about quality materials, better motor, full suspension, better range, etc. I still don’t understand why Stromer is so popular.
like what bike? i have ridden many ebikes, have not yet seen a better one, or better value with the same features.
@@Ropetable have you tried the Friday 27 FS SPEED from Moustache for example? Amaaaaazing Bike.
@@mehrdadhaghighi5140 looks like the run of the mill e-bike. The bosch motor is much less powerful, even the new one. Shifting and brakes are a step down, the st5 has much better integration, the battery is much smaller, less range, the motor is not nicely integrated, the bike has no simcard and tracking and electronic lock. Its probably good value, but i would not want to go a day without the electronic lock, so convenient. for suspension i got the front fork, and a suspension seatpost. Been through snow, mud, trails, gravel and road without issue. So all those features give it at least the right to be an option. It also has a hub motor which in city is a benefit. More power to the wheel. The st5 is from 2018 and features are not yet matched.