She speaks in such a hard, strong way but the way she says that line is so gentle. In a hesitant, slightly awkward way. Being gentle is unfamiliar to her but she's trying.
@@Lessen0 Kinda reminds me of the early interactions between Liriel and Fyodor in the Windwalker trilogy of books (a trilogy that I'd highly recommend, the pair's adventures are quite fun to read, especially with how Liriel solves some problems in ways that you may not expect). Liriel is impulsive and very curious, in an almost cat-like way, and she initially fails to understand the kinds of boundaries that are the norm on the surface, but she legitimately tries to abide by them (at first for Fyodor's sake, and then later because she genuinely cares), and she even takes a shine to the nickname/pet name Fyodor gives her: "Little Raven". For instance, at first she can't understand why humans (like Fyodor) are so averse to casual intimacy, but once she understands the meaning that intimacy has for humans, she treats the act with more respect and reverence, particularly once she and Fyodor have become lovers. The key difference between Liriel and Minthara though is that Liriel even early on is depicted as being very kind-hearted (the only times Liriel has ever killed anyone, even while living in Menzoberranzan, was when she was acting purely in self-defense). Minthara on the other hand takes quite a bit of time and effort to soften up.
@@firestorm165 Yep. In the Underdark, a drow allowing themselves to be this vulnerable will almost invariably end up dead. So it's extremely telling for a drow to be this open and honest with you. A normal person saying they trust you is one thing, but it's far more meaningful coming from a drow who used to live in the Underdark.
That's the thing about Drow, They are a ruthless people and they expect betrayal and cruelty and lies, and they will do much to test you and treat you as if you are just another thing to be used to them. However if you can get past all that and make them feel respected, loved and trusted. They will burn down the world for you. Viconia and Minthara are Similar in that respect in terms of being drow companions. I think this is why Minthara want's to see your thoughts. Deep down she has to know truely that you mean what you say before she becomes vulnerable to you.
This woman would murder men women and children all the same for the sake of curing boredom if nothing else yet she has such a deep character and personality the writers did a really good job making her likable
Yeah, that's can be a hard thing to do for a normal, real world person sometimes, but where she's from, there is nothing you can truly trust. That would be a monumental step and probably nearly impossible to vocally express like she did.
I love that our party is made up of damage broken pieces that manage to compliment one another and fit to make a stain glass picture of something beautiful. It’s been a long time since a game made me care so much about everyone around you
It’s such a shame she had all of this backstory, how hot she is, how much of a freak she is and just how much of a ride or die she becomes was cast aside as an unfinished side character with no chance of a completed redemption
"May I?" Imagine you are accustomed to using male faces as chairs, and then because of an unknown feeling that starts erupting in your heart you suddenly utter words you had never dreamt of uttering.
Watching my friend pkay this game and kill Minthara while i was trying not to spoil. She even put on Minthara's clothes for her Drow character and i was devastated by the loss of my Drow love 😢
same, she sound so ruthless that i thought she was evil then i process to knocked her out and loot her stuff and was surprised that i can take her clothes but i didn't really mind it back then so after that i just straight up kill her in cold blood
Playing as the dark urge i went from "Tonight you belong only to me" to "tonight i only belong to you" pretty funny. I just met her. My view of her went from badass blood thirsty assasin like commander to crazy and horny killer to victim of a dark past. Im so insanely confused but no matter what she does she always has a commanding aura to her.
I love how she says you are mine or I am yours can't remember now and then she says then she's like come to me and my character just stands there and she comes to me instead 😂
It’s so overwhelming. The big demon guy shooting then going invisible. The other demons doing their attacks. Raphael doing a supercharged move that deals extremely high damage. Then the song hits and it’s like DAMN.
You could get to this point without slaying the Tieflings :) See above the Comment from "TheDarkLasombra" inside the reply threads of "user-mu8ok5xf8d" comment 2 days ago Apparently patch 5 opened up a way to do it on a good playthrough. You need to activate temporary hostility on her by doing something bad in front of her, then knock her out with non-lethal damage. Then you can kill the rest of the cultists, but as long as she is knocked out she should be at Moonrise to attempt to recruit.
Oh people F5'ed right before selecting option 5 but the fact that the writers put that in as an option just speaks to what they would allow players to do.
Sad that you cant at least when connecting your minds, hug her warmthly, and kiss her, right before choosing "a lover" Answer. And kiss her again, after that.
i used the good way to get her means not kill the druids and tieflings but in the camp when she said at night she is coming to my there was no scene. and talks i had only when i free her in mooncastle and after kill thorns then act 3 only a bit now i am arround 8 h in act 3 and nothing more with her she is on 95 with my lets hope something coming when she is on 100 but i think i found a bug sadly.
@@Riseofgamez ironically she even has an actual line in-game where she basically tells you that "if you had killed me when we first met i would have been just another casualty on your crusade agaisnt the absolute, and nobody would remember me...".
Thats why the replay value is so good. Once you figure out that some characters approve and disapprove of certain actions, you can essentially play out an "evil" or "chaotic" playthrough. Just start over and blitz through the quests with all the knowledge of character building. If you really want to be rude, play on the default difficulty. (I get the impression most people play on tactician/honour mode) Still, you can do good aligned things and recruit her later. Just ignore her or knock her out in act 1.
I always thought of my character as a top as well as Minthara, I always imagined them fighting for supremacy on the battlefield and in the bedroom, but never have I thought that Minnie would just crumble into Tav’s arms like that, It was comforting
@@towelgirl21 it’s mostly just tid bit flashes of nudity and suggestive body movements inbetween blackouts, but the scenes are very revealing without showing actual genitalia (most times)
Apparently patch 5 opened up a way to do it on a good playthrough. You need to activate temporary hostility on her by doing something bad in front of her, then knock her out with non-lethal damage. Then you can kill the rest of the cultists, but as long as she is knocked out she should be at Moonrise to attempt to recruit. I just started a Seldarine Drow playthrough so "I can fix her".
@@TheDarkLasombra I’m doing a grey dwarf fighting and I’m planing on trying to romance her on a good run when I get her in act two. I just need to figure out how
I like her I make her barefoot every playthrough she's gorgeous in every way. I love that you post Shadowheart feet much respect my bro your channel is amazing I watch a lot of your videos and think you are a genuine and amazing.
It is possible to recruit her without killing the tieflings, but Halsin will leave if u recruit her. Not sure if u can romance her at that point tho, since her first romance scene is tied to killing the tieflings.
Yup. Steal a scroll off the table in front of her, make sure she's tagged "temporarily hostile," turn on non-lethal attacks, make sure final damage is done with a melee attack. After that, she should be on the ground with 1 HP and stars circling her head. Best case scenario, you've already quietly taken out Priestess Gut in her room, so now you just have to deal with Ragzlin. Killing him will make EVERYONE in the goblin camp hostile, so make sure you save him for last. After he's done, go back to the Worg Pens & free/notify Halsin. All of this needs to be done before you long rest. After that, you can do whatever you want, just stay away from the goblin camp. She'll be in Moonrise being judged by Ketheric when you get there. I even had Halsin in the party the 1st time she was recruited, post-Patch 5. He was fine with it. No disapproval, no ultimatum, no problems at all.
@@CrimpyCrackerThat's incorrect. You miss the goblin party scene, but her approval starts at zero no matter what you do in Act I, so her romance is irrelevant to whatever choice you made. Halsin doesn't give any ultimatums about her.
@Cracker Nope, just finished the playthrough with both of them in my party. The difference is that Halsin's place changes in camp. In the elfsong for instance he is standing near the fireplace in the middle of the room instead of the bed like the others
The Drow are made this way to survive in the Underdark. So what you are seeing here is the taming of a grown up wild alpha animal, which is extremely difficult to do. You need to become the alpha in this instance, but you need to also acknowledge theirs as well. A mutual relationship only begins there, but the taming process must occur first.
The question is why she can’t be kissed in the camp, like other heroines when having an affair with them. There is also no option to finish the novel. Am I the only one with this bug?
“May I?” That delivery is stellar.
I concur
She speaks in such a hard, strong way but the way she says that line is so gentle. In a hesitant, slightly awkward way. Being gentle is unfamiliar to her but she's trying.
@@Lessen0 Kinda reminds me of the early interactions between Liriel and Fyodor in the Windwalker trilogy of books (a trilogy that I'd highly recommend, the pair's adventures are quite fun to read, especially with how Liriel solves some problems in ways that you may not expect). Liriel is impulsive and very curious, in an almost cat-like way, and she initially fails to understand the kinds of boundaries that are the norm on the surface, but she legitimately tries to abide by them (at first for Fyodor's sake, and then later because she genuinely cares), and she even takes a shine to the nickname/pet name Fyodor gives her: "Little Raven". For instance, at first she can't understand why humans (like Fyodor) are so averse to casual intimacy, but once she understands the meaning that intimacy has for humans, she treats the act with more respect and reverence, particularly once she and Fyodor have become lovers.
The key difference between Liriel and Minthara though is that Liriel even early on is depicted as being very kind-hearted (the only times Liriel has ever killed anyone, even while living in Menzoberranzan, was when she was acting purely in self-defense). Minthara on the other hand takes quite a bit of time and effort to soften up.
I did not expect ~you~
It was truly beautiful
To Tav, she is a soft puppy.
To the rest of the world, a ruthless tyrant in the making.
Well I for one welcome our new hot Drow Overlord. 😅
best option imo lol@@pitbullnamedcupcake8485
You know what triggered this dialogue for me? Making a 6-year-old trying to sell newspapers cry. That was her approval threshold.
Fuxkin hell😅
Minthara is the definition of “Find you a girl who can do both” 🍷
Agreed 👍
Considering the life she's lived and the trauma she's endured it means so much to hear her say that she trusts you. LOVE THIS WOMAN!
Same. I love her too.
Yeah when a drow straight up says "I trust you" they are ride or die
@@firestorm165 I respect that
@@firestorm165 Yep. In the Underdark, a drow allowing themselves to be this vulnerable will almost invariably end up dead. So it's extremely telling for a drow to be this open and honest with you. A normal person saying they trust you is one thing, but it's far more meaningful coming from a drow who used to live in the Underdark.
@@gamester512Humans are worse than Drow in RL.
"Geez guys lemme read in peace!"
- Shadowheart, probably, there in the end
"When I said, get a room, I didn't mean mine..."
He's romancing Minthara while he clearly has a Shadowheart foot fetish.
@@honooryu5374
"There is only ONE big room, my sweet summer child. Put up with it or switch with Karlach"
Shart just standing behind Tav and jotting this exchange down for her fan fiction
That she reads in her hideout full of supplies, sealed to the world. That's Squirrelheart for you.
The last line she says with the evil eyebrows makes me chuckle as it seams like he is already thinking what she will do to you at bed time
"I belong only to you" 😈
@@Frytranslationvanosssomething tells me she meant the other way around…
Yes.@@saiyanc137
that's her happy face. she only does it when showing joy.
I love a dominant woman 🥰
It’s the angry eyebrows she has despite talking about passionate love that cracks me up.
“Tonight, I belong only to you… >:)”
The way she asked "....May I?" was so unexpectedly vulnerable. 😭
Yesss
That's the thing about Drow, They are a ruthless people and they expect betrayal and cruelty and lies, and they will do much to test you and treat you as if you are just another thing to be used to them. However if you can get past all that and make them feel respected, loved and trusted. They will burn down the world for you. Viconia and Minthara are Similar in that respect in terms of being drow companions.
I think this is why Minthara want's to see your thoughts. Deep down she has to know truely that you mean what you say before she becomes vulnerable to you.
Listen. Listen, listen
I can fix her.
How can you fix what is perfect?
she doesn't need to be fixed she is already perfect
I will let her make me worse
lol it ends with Shadowheart easedropping on the whole thing
That's why I don't like sleeping in the tavern. Everyone in each other's space
This woman would murder men women and children all the same for the sake of curing boredom if nothing else yet she has such a deep character and personality the writers did a really good job making her likable
A drow becoming sentimental is terrifying.
Shadowheart is just pretending she's not there while listening to all of it
"must... have... the tea..."
Haha so true
Tav giving us THE LOOK every few seconds will never seize to crack me up.
Also! When she said "I trust you." at 0:47, my heart melted.
Yeah, that's can be a hard thing to do for a normal, real world person sometimes, but where she's from, there is nothing you can truly trust. That would be a monumental step and probably nearly impossible to vocally express like she did.
I love that our party is made up of damage broken pieces that manage to compliment one another and fit to make a stain glass picture of something beautiful. It’s been a long time since a game made me care so much about everyone around you
why is her voice so hot dayumn
She got that rich dark coffee with a bit of cream voice. Strong and yet soft.
3:38 The music hit at the perfect time here. Other videos with the same scene lack the power of this one.
"Song of Balduran" in Elfsong Tavern broke me during after-date talk with Karlach... So powerful ❤️🔥
It’s such a shame she had all of this backstory, how hot she is, how much of a freak she is and just how much of a ride or die she becomes was cast aside as an unfinished side character with no chance of a completed redemption
"May I?" Imagine you are accustomed to using male faces as chairs, and then because of an unknown feeling that starts erupting in your heart you suddenly utter words you had never dreamt of uttering.
Yet another reason why I have a giant nude statue of Minthara in the middle of my camp.
Watching my friend pkay this game and kill Minthara while i was trying not to spoil. She even put on Minthara's clothes for her Drow character and i was devastated by the loss of my Drow love 😢
Evil purple b word will always die in my game. That voice actress though ooh wee
That character is already legendary.
She’s a goddess 🔥🥵
Minthara's like a Spaceballs villain.
i love how on my first run through i just destroyed her without even realizing how big of a character she was
same, she sound so ruthless that i thought she was evil then i process to knocked her out and loot her stuff and was surprised that i can take her clothes but i didn't really mind it back then so after that i just straight up kill her in cold blood
I am watching this again god i love her so much
Did anyone else notice that her eyes get a little less red as the game goes on, maybe it’s only if you romance her
the red eyes are a gift from Lolth to signify her followers, she no longer follows Lolth, so it makes sense.
@@jake120007Holy, that's an awesome detail.
Playing as the dark urge i went from "Tonight you belong only to me" to "tonight i only belong to you" pretty funny. I just met her. My view of her went from badass blood thirsty assasin like commander to crazy and horny killer to victim of a dark past. Im so insanely confused but no matter what she does she always has a commanding aura to her.
She is all of those things.
im not crying y'all are crying
I love how she says you are mine or I am yours can't remember now and then she says then she's like come to me and my character just stands there and she comes to me instead 😂
It’s so overwhelming. The big demon guy shooting then going invisible. The other demons doing their attacks. Raphael doing a supercharged move that deals extremely high damage. Then the song hits and it’s like DAMN.
Yeah...I don't have the slightest remorse for slaying them Tieflings now
You could get to this point without slaying the Tieflings :)
See above the Comment from
"TheDarkLasombra" inside the reply threads of "user-mu8ok5xf8d" comment
2 days ago
Apparently patch 5 opened up a way to do it on a good playthrough. You need to activate temporary hostility on her by doing something bad in front of her, then knock her out with non-lethal damage. Then you can kill the rest of the cultists, but as long as she is knocked out she should be at Moonrise to attempt to recruit.
Thats me wife.
Our wife
This interaction literally broke me bruh. She's come so far
holy shit i dont think i ever seen a option five here. Nobody took it
Oh people F5'ed right before selecting option 5 but the fact that the writers put that in as an option just speaks to what they would allow players to do.
They got that right mix of sweetness and cruelty to be scary :D @@archaicsentinel
I feel slightly bad about ambushing her and throwing her body to the spiders now.
Sad that you cant at least when connecting your minds, hug her warmthly, and kiss her, right before choosing "a lover" Answer. And kiss her again, after that.
i used the good way to get her means not kill the druids and tieflings but in the camp when she said at night she is coming to my there was no scene. and talks i had only when i free her in mooncastle and after kill thorns then act 3 only a bit now i am arround 8 h in act 3 and nothing more with her she is on 95 with my lets hope something coming when she is on 100 but i think i found a bug sadly.
Damn...
That is a face only a mother could love 😢😂
You talking about my Dark urge 😂
@@Riseofgamez I know 😄
And Minthara apparently
My WIFE ! ❤🎉
makes me wonder why i ever killed her without a second thought
I did too on my first PlayThrough
@@Riseofgamez ironically she even has an actual line in-game where she basically tells you that "if you had killed me when we first met i would have been just another casualty on your crusade agaisnt the absolute, and nobody would remember me...".
The end nothing will happen is bug 😢😢
Every time I see a scene with her it always makes me feel so bad that I killed her back at the Goblin Camp
Thats why the replay value is so good. Once you figure out that some characters approve and disapprove of certain actions, you can essentially play out an "evil" or "chaotic" playthrough.
Just start over and blitz through the quests with all the knowledge of character building. If you really want to be rude, play on the default difficulty. (I get the impression most people play on tactician/honour mode)
Still, you can do good aligned things and recruit her later. Just ignore her or knock her out in act 1.
I always thought of my character as a top as well as Minthara, I always imagined them fighting for supremacy on the battlefield and in the bedroom, but never have I thought that Minnie would just crumble into Tav’s arms like that,
It was comforting
@@towelgirl21 it’s mostly just tid bit flashes of nudity and suggestive body movements inbetween blackouts, but the scenes are very revealing without showing actual genitalia (most times)
If you don’t help the goblins or the druids and just get her in act one can you still romance her
I don’t think so but I could be wrong
Apparently patch 5 opened up a way to do it on a good playthrough. You need to activate temporary hostility on her by doing something bad in front of her, then knock her out with non-lethal damage. Then you can kill the rest of the cultists, but as long as she is knocked out she should be at Moonrise to attempt to recruit.
I just started a Seldarine Drow playthrough so "I can fix her".
@@TheDarkLasombra I’m doing a grey dwarf fighting and I’m planing on trying to romance her on a good run when I get her in act two. I just need to figure out how
you can absolutely@@user-mu8ok5xf8d
You can but i do not believe you get the sex scenes
Why does she give me Hugh Grant vibes?
Why am I the only one still sleeping in some hobo camp in act 3 while all y’all in some taverns tho 😭😂 my Minthara deserves better
Yeah i need to explore act 3 more than the others, theres appearantly a way to buy that room.
01:22
And... how does she see the surface world, exactly? And... what does the Drow she is want from the world?
babygirlllllll
Song's name at the end ?
I like her I make her barefoot every playthrough she's gorgeous in every way.
I love that you post Shadowheart feet much respect my bro your channel is amazing I watch a lot of your videos and think you are a genuine and amazing.
When does this trigger
0:37 - 0:44 Wait,wait,wait,wait,wait! Our mutual _what?!?!_ 😳 So you can _ACTUALLY_ make Minthara become Good?!?!😱
Did you romance her on a good run? If so, how?
Til Lindemann based character?
It's possible to recruit her and romance on good playthrough and keeping Halsin?
It is possible to recruit her without killing the tieflings, but Halsin will leave if u recruit her. Not sure if u can romance her at that point tho, since her first romance scene is tied to killing the tieflings.
Yup. Steal a scroll off the table in front of her, make sure she's tagged "temporarily hostile," turn on non-lethal attacks, make sure final damage is done with a melee attack. After that, she should be on the ground with 1 HP and stars circling her head.
Best case scenario, you've already quietly taken out Priestess Gut in her room, so now you just have to deal with Ragzlin. Killing him will make EVERYONE in the goblin camp hostile, so make sure you save him for last.
After he's done, go back to the Worg Pens & free/notify Halsin. All of this needs to be done before you long rest.
After that, you can do whatever you want, just stay away from the goblin camp. She'll be in Moonrise being judged by Ketheric when you get there. I even had Halsin in the party the 1st time she was recruited, post-Patch 5. He was fine with it. No disapproval, no ultimatum, no problems at all.
@@CrimpyCrackerThat's incorrect. You miss the goblin party scene, but her approval starts at zero no matter what you do in Act I, so her romance is irrelevant to whatever choice you made.
Halsin doesn't give any ultimatums about her.
@Cracker Nope, just finished the playthrough with both of them in my party. The difference is that Halsin's place changes in camp. In the elfsong for instance he is standing near the fireplace in the middle of the room instead of the bed like the others
A Drow life is pretty shitty, no one deserves this.
The Drow are made this way to survive in the Underdark. So what you are seeing here is the taming of a grown up wild alpha animal, which is extremely difficult to do. You need to become the alpha in this instance, but you need to also acknowledge theirs as well. A mutual relationship only begins there, but the taming process must occur first.
why your face so scarred
I think his character is half illithid
He's been smoking tadpoles
...and no romance scene
Why you almost got 200 subs
I suppose a small amount of people enjoy my content
@@Riseofgamez I sub only because you post Luffy feet
The question is why she can’t be kissed in the camp, like other heroines when having an affair with them. There is also no option to finish the novel. Am I the only one with this bug?
For me, the kiss option opened up after killing Orin and siding with Gortash.
Yes there was a kiss towards the very end, it’s great. But it should be a normal thing like other companions
Still waiting for the night.😂 damm 🪲
Hope Patch 6 will help 😃
Me too, me too