Is Michael Morningstar An Osmosian? (Ben 10 Discussion)
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- Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
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Back in the swing of things with another new Ben 10 video! Ngl, I think this is a BRILLIANT discussion to start our year off with, so I hope you all feel the same!
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So, let's get a comment chain going! What future topics do you want to see discussed/theorized about for Ben 10, and what other shows/movies/games are you most interested in discussion videos about? Let me know!
How about chaquetrix? Not really my thing but the idea is really interesting.
What monster hunter or HTTYD creatures could meet the requirements for the omnitrix?
How about a Video about how each Alien tastes? (Like, in a culinary way). Or maybe even making "recipes" how you would serve them.
One normal example:
Kickinhawk tastes like chicken. So lets fry the boi
One quirky example:
Im sure Atomix tastes like Candy, because some goobers were dumb enough to taste Plutonium and reported that it tastes "sweet and sour, almost candy-like"
For my omnitricks I would have ultimates, wich I guess is your favorite.
Hey Kiri no theory idea but I like to think the horns on agregor are just hidden on the other osmosians note how every osmosian we don’t see with horns has long hair on the top of their head?
I love the Idea of Osmosians all being able to learn how to absorb Energy from a Distance. Like an "advanced Osmosian Power". Learning a bit of magic could help developing this Ability and Michael surely knows some magic.
Imagine Kevin or Michael getting drained (insert innuendo) and just absorbing his life-force back from a distance with an energy whip. "GET OVER HERE"
Mfw I get drained fr fr
It would be interesting to see more advanced Osmosian abilities, like how Kevin learned to shape-shift his body while absorbing materials
@@KirigiriKirin Exactly. Maybe at some Point they could learn to absorb liquid or even gaseous Materials too instead of just solids. Or using "I coat myself in Material" to change one Element to the other, kinda like a Devil fruit awakening.
Just imagine Kevin about to be hit, but he quickly aborbs the Air around him and the Attack passes through in finest Logia fashion.
If Kevin absorbed a gas, he would harmlessly dissipate on the target, not pass through, but the same purpose would be achieved. Now, if he absorbed whatever unique particles allows Ectonurite, Necrofrigian, and Amperii intangibility (I personally call these "Ectons") he would be able to pass through.@@yamato9753
I always saw Darkstar as some kind of vampire, sure his powers did share some basic similarities with Kevin’s but there were some critical differences such as Darkstar needing to feed on the life force of others to sustain himself, turning his victims into slaves and those teeth in his hands. Although thank s the OV reworking Osmosian as a term for mutants, Darkstar is technically an Osmosian through that logic.
During Alien Force, they hadn't decided on Michael's origins yet. By Ultimate Alien, the crew had decided that he wasn't part alien.
Hmm, interesting! I was not aware of that!
I would say he's some form of mutant human, altered by magics perhaps?
@@the_cyberchill That's exactly what he is as of Omniverse, minus the magic part. He's just a human who was born with energy-absorption powers similar to Kevin.
Honestly with the whole “They are mutants” thing I don’t really consider it cannon since it was Max freaking out and the ‘confirmation’ came from a known liar and manipulator that we have no reason to believe was telling the truth. Being fair it could also be that Ben just messed up when remaking that part of reality/the other Celestialsapiens messing about making a sort of a paradox, but I doubt it.
That would have been a better explanation, to be honest!
not gonna lie i didn't even consider Michael being an osmosian
i just thought he had special powers like Cooper
I mean Cooper could also have some kind of alien DNA! Perhaps he has Nanites like Generator Rex!
@@KirigiriKirin nice theory although im unsure if the timelines align
@@madmaster2574 I mean, we know Ben 10 and Gen Rex take place on alternate branches in the timeline, guessing Rex is from a world like no watch Ben's world? No omnitrix, or perhaps it never landed on earth due to the nanite event, but I would imagine Cooper could be a "Evo" and underwent the same kinda experiment as Rex or he's just a technopathic metahuman/mutate. I go off of the "mutant"/"Mutate" with some inbetween of the two meaning Cooper may not of been born with the power, but like Rex he was altered and a good host for it, be it a generic mutation, nanites. We know the secret saturdays exist in the same world as Ben 10. I think coopers origin if revealed in a sequel series shouldnt be alien hybrid, but a form of "altered human" like Generator Rex. Be that by Lab Accident, Purposeful Experimentation, or a Generic Mutation. or a mix of the three.
@@the_cyberchill nice theory
I always thought of him being a hybrid between an Osmosian and a Vladat. Obviously Vladats were extinct at the time, but maybe he could have been the descendant of a Vladat (probably Dracula himself) and his genes had remained dormant throughtout his family until the the Osmosian genes awakened them in him. It makes sense, given the clear inspiration from Edward Cullen from Twilight, and it would also explain that weird leech mouth thing on his palms, a mutation caused by his hybrid nature
Furthering this, there was a trading card that referred to him as a "zombified vladite"
I really like the idea that Kevin's DNA was affected even after he undid it and broke the shell as if the omnitrix overwhelms his powers temporarily altering his DNA and made it as a permanent store to access and this especially makes sense with how kevin evolved after losing his fused material state (gaining access to infinitely adding more material and being able to alter his shape)
I think the mutations to osmosians would only occur in a flight or fight state which would allow an osmosian to access more "power" from an object or being but permanently alters their apperance as their DNA was temporarily more influencable by another being/object
That's an interesting idea! I quite like that
Ok. This is probably one of your best theories by far especially explaining Aggregor's horns which I didn't give much of a thought. Also didn't know the Plumber Kids were half human. Man I need to re-watch with Ben 10
I'm honoured that you think this is one of my best!
@@KirigiriKirin yeah it's a really good theory + it was well explained too
Imo lack of horns can be explained by the fact that Kevin and Devilin were both hybrid osmosians, while Devin was clearly living on Earth, so he probably had them removed so that he would not stand out among humans
For the plot holes you brought up for the OV retcon, we have an answer to what's up with Aggregor already.
For all we know, the episode Vendetta could've never happened since Ragnarok was originally going to be a member of the Rooters, meaning that he could've still been alive.
Aggregor could've just been referring to the Rooters base or maybe even the null void as Osmos V.
Manny and Helen probs escaped the null void the same way Kevin & Argit did. Or Vilgax post season 2.
Maybe because they escaped a different way.
For Alan answer, see answer 4.
How Alan got his plumber badge is a good question. It's also possible that his parents were still plumbers and he got his badge from his parents. I've never seen this question brought up tbf.
Ben and Gwen saw them 1 time for like a couple of minutes when they were both 11. And for most of that encounter they were mainly focused on Kevin. Not only that but they were all wearing helmets (except for Kevin) which could've blocked their faces.
Those points were raised by another person, I just referenced their post. Thank you for adding these counter-arguments to the discussion, however!
First off, I love this theory, and the idea Aggregor has horns because someone in his family tree absorbed an alien with horns. Although I’m pretty sure there was a writer statement saying Aggregor has horns because he’s just older. But ngl I do prefer this idea more. Also I’m surprised you didn’t go over the fact Michael can range absorb (unless I somehow missed you going over it) I do think Michael being an Osmosian makes sense, it even makes the “evil counterparts” idea with Micheal being Kevin’s evil counterpart make more sense. But the ranged absorption can probably be explained with his frequent absorption of mana/life force. As after Ultimate Kevin absorbed mana, he was also able to do that.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention, I would love more videos on Osmosians (especially pre-retcon) since I’m a big fan of Osmosians.
Okay so I just remembered, the part about the Orishans(?) mentioned the ranged absorption thing I think?
I did mention range absorption and the crew statement about the horns coming with age.
I'm glad you enjoyed this video, however!
@@KirigiriKirin Yeah I guess me watching the video while tired made me either miss or just not realise stuff.
If you wanted to follow the theme started with this video, you should video on "Is Charmcaster an Anodite?"
My personal theory on Anodite's is that they are living portals to Legerdomain. They can "open" themselves to allow this magic to pass through. This explains why they don't have DNA detectable by the Omnitrix.
hell yeah
I always assumed some point down the line Agregor would return in Omniverse and get a proper backstory.
Because in Ultimate he was just "evil osmosian".
I headcannon that servantis is just messing with max when someone runs up to you sans basically says “hey you put a memory in my head of a fake person I never met didn’t you” if I was servantis I’d do that exact same thing
True but let's not forget there wre multiple flashbacks where ben max and gwen remember meeting kevin in the uncoming storm
@@makeitrain6745 glad you mentioned that I will research that to check for any ideas that it might be fake
I do agree that Servantis might just create chaos because it makes him more believable. He seems like the type to lie even if it is marginally impactful. Given he can alter memories though, nothing he says should ever be trusted.
While we are here, I would like to point out that there is no evidence Servantis or the Routers existed prior to Ben recreating the universe. Given that we know Ben didn't perfectly replicate it, and Alien X can alter time, this could mean Ben accidently retconned his best friends backstory.
@@SomeRandomKydd YOU’VE HELPED MY RESEARCH SERVANTIS MADE FAKE MEMORYS OF MEETING KEVIN BACK IN THE UPCOMING STORM IN ORDER TO CAUSE CHAOS HUZZAH IM A GENIUS
@@SomeRandomKydd Thats true besides ben could easily do it i have a feeling when doing it ben made an agreement to change things for them for some of there debates of the universe or omniverse
I clicked on this video thinking "of course not!", and now having finished it I think the theory holds up. Good job!
I'm glad I was able to convince you! :D
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14/10 video Kiri!
Tyyyy xxx
5:49 I was literally about to say that. I’m so glad you put that in, I wasn’t expecting it!
I knew someone would mention it if I didn't!
I got around shitty Rooters Arc by headcanoning it so that Servantis LIED about Asmosians in order to turn Kevin against Ben, dude was OPENLY Bens hater and there's absolutely NO reason to believe he was actually telling the truth. As for Aggregor, in my headcanon he's actually either Kevins longlast dad making the one in the flashback his uncle OR more belivably he's Kevins longlost uncle
EDIT: Also in the same headcanon Michael is Kevins cousin cause if that was true, it would be one hell of a plot-twist lol
Kevin knew that Michael was lying cuz they had the cousin psychic link
ink tank did a video on it. Long story short one of the writers wanted to go back to the OG ben 10 and have Kevin be a mutant. But the OG writers never flushed out his backstory and left it ambiguous. They literally made the arc just to change it with no real reason. So its just best to ignore the arc.
Due to the retcon, the wiki says that Aggregor is a clone of Kevin that is artificially aged by the Routers making him refer to Kevin as a "hatchling" ironic. Course, that's just the fandom wiki.
the whole “Savantis was lying” theory doesn’t hold water since Kevin(who was freed of all memory tampering) confirmed it, in fact Savantis didn’t even bring it up, he was backed into a corner by Max and Kevin and was forced to own up to his scheme, something he didn’t want to do.
This theory makes sense also I made the video of astral but first I wanna comment on your video also I put you and grag in it but still this theory makes more sense can't wait for your next theory you'll make
You are right.
More theories soon!
@@KirigiriKirin also I uploaded the video of astral hope you like it
0:45 I laughed a little to heard at the addressing the elephant in the room bit came out of nowhere and I'm new here so yeah.😅
Get used to very random jokes here!
GradeAunerA reference? Yup, You get a like and a new sub for this.
Woohoo! I win!
Ben 10 is probably the most inconsistent franchise of Man of Action ever created and is ironically one of there successful.
It really teaches the lesson good writing doesn't always mean a large profit, sometims all it takes is memorable designs and good execution of 1 or more concepts.
They have more?
I only remember ben 10 and gen rex
Secret Saturdays and such!
Toy Sales also helps. And it certainly helps you stay on the air long enough to make an impact. :)
@@shanerulez79 It's funny to me that Japan is able to make almost any series have toys or add least figures but for the US most of what people want is action figures and dolls.
@lesterwilliamsjr649 the US also age caps toys a lot of the time. Sure you can find toys based on Family Guy or the Simpsons but shows aimed at older audiences don't produce toys like they do for SpongeBob or Paw Patrol. The only thing universally made regardless of age is tshirts
I was under the impression that Kevin and Devin had horns, but you couldn’t see them because their hair covers it?
Okay so no one mentions it anymore so I'm gonna go out there and say it.
It's really funny that Darkstar is named MICHAEL Morningstar, the supposed brother to the Lightbringer/Fallen Angel of Samael or Lucifer Morningstar when you look at the christian faith. Another thing to point out is that after his debut episode, he very much keeps a Chaotic Neutral moral standing, where he either feeds off of people because he needs to, because it fits a certain goal of his, or because someone willingly gave it to him in exchange for his help.
He's not exactly a hero, but isn't entirely a villain either, he's one of those gray area characters that is often portrayed in the blacker light of villainy, hell, look at his outfit, he's wearing dark colors, and has a mask on. The only time he's actually given better color is when he gets his energy fix, and when he's brimming with energy he takes on a Golden appearance, like he's brimming with light, which actually lends more to the first thing in that part above.
I had never actually stopped to consider the religious references! Thank you for this comment!
Neat stuff
I remember when a friend was watching the series for the first time with me and another of the group as "experts" to ask us things as they came up, and when the topic of whether Mornigstar was a mutant or a hybrid came up, this same question arose in our minds.
I like this theory
Heckwah 🐉
HECKWAH!
I've been thinking the same thing. Either an osmosian or an anodyte half-breed given the similar- enough powerset to gwen. It would obviously have to be a male variation of annodytes and gold represents the males and he just had a mutation where he can't retain mana. One other possible option is he's an osmosian anodyte hybrid.
Also I love the grade a under a bit. Never saw a UA-camr reference him before.
Makes sense! Happy that I guessed your starter, hope you're having a good day c: In regards to your poll, I'd guess that you'd go for ultimates. I'm going with ultimates too by default since I'm not as familiar with the alteration/powerups in the reboot. Feel like the first I'd try with it would be crashhopper, has potential to give fantastic rider kick
Great theory!
It is a neat idea, an osmosian learning to use mana/magic.
And really works on a thematic level of Michael being a dark reflection of Kevin, and a rival for Gwen's affection.
I always headcanoned Michael was an osmosian. I'm pretty sure he was a fake plumber's kid anyway and intended to be a mutant, which would render the distinction between him and true osmosians like Kevin moot.
The greater version of this headcanon is that osmosians aren't just mutant humans, they're what humans as a whole are evolving into. Kevin, Michael, Aggregor, Devlin, Devin, and Ultimate Ben were all potential examples.
It doesn't stop there. After osmosians they eventually evolve into chronians! That's right, Eon isn't just an alien he's the future hope for humanity! Paradox's experiment also sort of turned him into what could be thought of as the first chronian in this view. Now, as for why UA and Omniverse Eon are considered an alternate Ben rather than an alien, that's because they aren't the same Eon we saw in Race Against Time. That Eon fiddled with the omnitrix and forced it to scan his chronian dna, distinct enough from human to register as a seperate species at this point, which unlocked a form for Race Against Time Ben called Eon. Something about transformation Eon messes with Ben's head like Ghostfreak does, and he overcomes it long enough to stop the chronian invasion in the movie, but he would later fully succumb to the Eon form. This Eon Ben is the one that later comes back in UA and Omniverse as an alt Ben.
That would be pretty cool if Osmosians evolved into Chronians
I have the Headcanon that as a last-ditch effort for the Cronians to avoid extinction in hyperspace, they transferred their consciousness into machines that amplified their powers. These machines then were able to escape and live elsewhere. TL;DR the Cronians became the Chrono Sapiens.
I once had an idea that was basically the reverse of this. Where Chronians came first, and Osmosians came way after, explaining why they all look very human. Although it’s not an idea i necessarily believe, it was just a fun idea I thought of.
Yoooo we love kiri first thing when opening yt
Yush! Always happy to deliver!
Maybe the real osmosians were the friends we made along the way
LMAO
Omni enhance for me it was the first one I saw and it was cool my guess for your favorite Omni kix because you included it in the kirintrix when most people forget it’s a thing or don’t include it
Before omnivers Delvyn (yes he is still in canon but now as Kevin and Gwen's son) in my opinion he is more of a clone of Kevin
I mean Aggregor was gonna be Kevin's clone in Omniverse!
MOAR!
Kevin being an Osmosian and not just a mutant human also was a retcon, going from OS to AF
So you can't take Devlin and adult Kevin into account here
I definitely think that Dark Star's Osmosian parent might have absorbed some Ectonurite DNA, just because his grey skin is kind of like Ghost Freak's and the mouth thing feels like something he would do
You know, that's an excellent point! I wouldn't be surprised!
im guessing you would want ultimates for your omnitrix
What if Agregor still is an Osmosian, it is just that Kevin wasnt one, but the species are still a thing.
Not a bad shout
Personally I never liked the retcon for Oasmosian's.
I think that's inscription footage but I'm not sure cause I haven't played in a while
Yep, Inscryption!
Kevin's DNA wasnt just transformed once by the omnitrix, it was transformed AT LEAST 3 times prior to Devlin being born, possibly more, so theoretically Devlin could also have the ability to transform into any of the other mutated kevin forms, most notably UAF Mutated Kevin, which had absorbed Ultimate Aggregor's powers, which means its technically possible that Devlin COULD have had horns, however either Kevin's DNA didnt have enough of the "horn" trait to pass down to Devlin OR the horn trait is simply a recessive gene of certain osmosians, which is entirely possible. (And by extension hand mouthes could also possibly be a recessive gene)
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Make the lack of a joke into your next joke
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Tbh I would 100% choose the ultimate gimmick, it's the first and what a first it is, the concept of evolving the aliens is such a great one, sadly it was Abit under used in the series
But at the same time, I perfer it being an Albeido only thing since only he would be willing to torture his transformation
Honestly this was a pretty good theory at some point I don't think i can discredit it you this is a really good theory michael being an osmosian isnt really much of a strech and it could possibly be true but michael can only absorb energy and magic by the looks of it and not material like metal nor rock so he could be an osmosian or another mutation like cooper that absorbs all energy but materials but this might be one of my fave theories
As far as we see, it is only Osmosians that don't train to absorb matter that can't absorb matter. Micheal could likely absorb matter if he tried. But there is also the detail shown in Couples' Date where he can be gouged on a certain thing he absorbed and not be able to absorb anything else. So maybe he just can't stomach solid materiel by this point.
Your theory made me think of the Chimera Ants from Hunter x Hunter
YO I LOVED THE CHIMERA ANT ARC!!!!
Come to think of it, maybe he's also part Xenocite or that giant earthworm that I forget the name of (or even both who knows). As for how is he different from Kevin with his gold sparkles and all, I dare to say he's part Nemuina.
True, the Xenocite mouth does look similar! And yeah, maybe Nemuina too!
The mouth is actually a reference to a certain class of Fallen Cleric in Dungeons and Dragons (I can't find the name). Now, there is nothing wrong with Kirigiri's explanation but I had to point out the writers' reason. The occult!
please don't stop making videos like this
I won't, don't you worry! I have been straying away a little recently but that's only because I've been taking a break to avoid burnout. More theories are on the way!
@@KirigiriKirin GOD bless your bro i hope you're ok
Imagine if Darkstar is secretly a distant relative of Vladats XD
Actually, an old card said he was part Vladat
static.wikia.nocookie.net/ben10/images/5/5e/Darkstar_Card.png
An emotional vampire related to ALIEN vampires!
@@KirigiriKirin now if you look at that
They Feed on life energy, and Emotions kinda are the energy
That would be the more likely. It is canon that Vladbats feed on life force and also canon that mana and life force are equivalent. This means Whampire could eat Gwen...
Timestamp 3:20 - It was stated by the writers that the adult osmosians we see have thick hair that would hide the horns. This implication included Kevin. So really it is that the horns aren't visible.
On Kevin, maybe, but no way on Devin.
You don't think the hair would have been enough to cover it? I actually Devin's would have been more plausible than Kevin's given Devin's sticks up the same way his horns would.@@KirigiriKirin
Coutnter point, there was no tell tale sign of a horn present
???????? Did you miss the part where the hair would hide the horns?@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec
@@SomeRandomKydd Do you see Devin hair buff up showing there is a horn under it?
In the sense that Osmosian and Mutant are the same thing, yes. "Osmosian" is a word Servantis coined for mutant humans, so yes, he's an Osmosian.
WOOHOO! I WIN BY TECHNICALITY!
Until it comes out that Servantis is lying. Cause he would do that.
@@SomeRandomKyddthe whole “Savantis was lying” theory doesn’t hold water since Kevin(who was freed of all memory tampering) confirmed it, in fact Savantis didn’t even bring it up, he was backed into a corner by Max and Kevin and was forced to own up to his scheme, something he didn’t want to do.
Yeah another Ben 10 discussion
1 OF US 1 OF US
Neat a vid on jetray or echo echo or fastrack.Also i wach your vids because your awsome.Also also you also like Aggegor Hell yeah awsome.Also also also im pretty sure kevin was ment to grow horns.I remember that from ink tanks brackdown of the ultamite sacrifice but was droped.But that doesnt dissprove anything in the vid because we have only seen 4 osmosians and his dad coudve done the sideways tango with some rando with mouth hands,magic mutations or...yaknow...DISFIGERATIONS(or whatever you call it)you ever heard of jason.
What do you mean specifically by Jason? Another UA-camr? A movie?
Also, I can definitely do a video on each of those aliens you suggested, at some point!
@@KirigiriKirinYou've never heard of Friday The 13.Never let anyone know know that.NEVER.
I don’t think he is a osmosian, I think he is just a hybrid of a race that has natural invincibility if having enough power.
That would also make sense!
Im guessing omnikix on a whim
Love this theory. Also.....I hate Osmosian retcon in Omniverse. Like....come on, Celestialsapiens, what the fuck? Why?
*Random Celestialsapien, pointing at Kevin:* Fuck this kid’s timeline in particular
The Celestialsapiens wanted revenge after 2 Osmosians nearly took their baby
@@KirigiriKirin They be like: *Sr Pelo gasp* DONT TOUCH THE CHILD!
Maybe because 75% of canon osmosians are Kevin’s blood, but they all have black hair, but Morningstar strikes me as a dude that would dye his hair, just a detail I noticed
Good
Michael
About Michael Morningstar, I thought you were going to say Asmosians have a True form with horns and vents on their hands which makes more sense to me, I don't like the idea that Asmosians look like humans cause Ben 10 Universe is more diverse and unique than the ones in comics 8 (caugh caugh, DC, caugh caugh)
True, but Ben 10 also has a number of alien races that pretty much just look like Humans.
@@KirigiriKirin
Which ones?
@@mr.knightthedetective7435 Most of them aren’t very important, but some examples are, The Vreedles, The Warden that Kevin hates, and the Plumber that trained the trio in that one UA episode.
@@Omni-Charlie And of course, the chronian
To be honest I forgot Michael had mouths on it's arms
(I think the crew forgot as well, seeing as Darkstar has gloves and can still absorb through them lol)
Didnt inkspot do a video that there is enough evidence to say servantis is just LYING about kevin just being a mutant, and devin not existing, and that because the entire "aggragor is a kevin slone" thing never made it to air its nothing more then scapped concepts, not "canon" I'm sorry but it honestly feels like a worse then julie and ben's breakup, that was just badly handled, but could of worked better, I just really dont like, "no we altered all your memories, and this big bad guy is a clone" just to give a proper orgiin for the plumbers helpers aside from "one of your parents musta been an alien!" I get it folks wanted kevin back to being a mutant like the og series, but just destroying all that backstory with a "I altered all your memories" and then never even actualizing the numerous other plotploints like Agragor, and Ragnarok, Ben namedrops him earlier in omniverse, it just feels so cheap to turn kevin back into a mutant.
I can accept that the plumber's kids were sleeper agents and their memories altered, their parentage was already vague, and I don't think it removes their agency while they were working with Ben, It takes it from them once they are reactivated my issue would be if they were freed of their "mind control conditioning" that Manny, Helen, Piece, & Alan were genuininely mind wiped during UAF era, and they snap back to reality and remember all the good ben's done, they can retain those memories of their origin after.
I also think the remaining rooter hybrids could make a good set of rogues for them, remaining loyal to servantis, and escaping on their own, plotting to continue his work, and finding some other method to create new hyrbid aliens. I'm fine with the plumbers kids, being sleeper agents, and that being how they got their badges, and why their parentage is so vague.
But Kevin had like several arcs of backstory retconed. only to say oh it was mind control, his dad never existed, and the showrunners just saying they'd of made agragor a clone of kevin. Just feels like and unneeded change, and I'm glad you can headcanon it as Max having a moment of doubt, and servantis playing along to mess with their heads.
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hes a mutant
An X-Men-worthy mutant, no less!
Nop
Fair enough! What's your counter-argument?
@@KirigiriKirin Nah i agree with after see the vid
Eyyy, I'm happy to hear that!@@Vini-sy6rs
This theory makes way too much sense and also shows why I hate the omniverse retcon, I also think that Michael could be a half osmosian like Kev and got his mouths on his hand from his other parent, or he could be a different subspecies of osmosian or their clan use different technique to absorb energy and mana with the mouth hands/the energy touch drain
The Omniverse retcon really did feel unnecessary tbh