A Honda Rebel is better than any Chinese 250cc Motorcycle. And I can prove it.
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00:00 Bike intros
00:31 Rebel specs
01:46 Rebel startup
02:15 Road test
04:19 Top speed
05:38 0-60
07:34 Twist and Turns
10:47 The results - Комедії
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The people at Venom motorsports have regretted their decision trying to reach out to Yam every time he uploads 😂
Good, fuck them they tried to buy Papa Yam like he was some sell out propaganda bullshitter but Papa ain't no Chinesecompany's bitch and I respect him for that, as I am sure other's do too.
All they had to do was tell him to only say good things about the bike and that was their biggest mistake
Im weak afff
Finally something positive about the rebel 250 on this channel
I got my 2003 rebel 250 3 months ago as my first bike ever. I paid $1500 for it and it’s been great as a learner bike for sure. I drive it about 30 miles each day and it’s fun, not the fastest but I don’t need to got more than 60mph so it’s perfect. I’m gonna keep it for this riding season and might get a bigger one next year. I love my rebel so far 🙌🏽👌🏽
Oh they are so easy to work on! I’ve done multiple services on it and I had never work on a bike before only car. For the first time in my life I’ve finally learned how to rebuild a carburetor and it was a good experience and bike runs even better now!
I am 59 years-old. I have found that the 250 cc class,whether motorcycle or scooter propels me down the road just fine.
You Might decide to keep it. It's always fun to ride around the neighborhood and backroads. Or make it into a bobber.
If you can, you might want to keep it when you get a bigger bike. For me it will always remain a fun back roads bike.
The vales are EASY af on this bike too, or any other 250cc old-style cruiser for that matter. Literally just a couple more steps compared to doing the adjustments on a chinese 50cc moped. Loved my Rebel, it was much easier to maintain than my Ninja 250R. Though that fucker was so much more fun to ride, but the valves were hard af and required taking the bike completely apart.
[Honda Rebel 250] "It's better than walking!" - Yammie Noob 10:05
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That boom racing, is properly the best purchase you have ever made, sure its a shit bike, but all the content you get from that thing, is a big win ;)
If Hitler had a motorcycle... Boom!
Today on YN, Yammie revisits all the nostalgia of the MSF course.
I ended doing the msf on a tw200 because all the rebels got taken
@@jakeedgell591 Same here. Those figure 8s were so easy on that bike
Up in Canada they usually use older CBR125r. Probably better than the boom as well
How is the seat comfort on Rebel 250? Thank you.
I will say my MSF we used Harley street 500s
Generally the people who are going to tell you something like a Rebel "rides bad" are so engrossed in their own motorcycle or style of motorcycle they can't comprehend the value of a motorcycle outside of their style. Such as sport bike only people will never grasp the value of a cruiser and just always think it is a slow tractor of a bike and terrible. Those same people tell you that standard bikes are bad as well when the very bar for the value of all motorcycles is the standard motorcycle. So I really appreciate your input on a bike like the Rebel 250. I think it shows alot more experience across the multitude of styles of motorcycles.
Comparing the boom to the legendary gxsr 250 would have been far more impactful
😂😂😂😂😂👍🏻
I think the GSXR125 might beat the Boom.
Yeah, imagine a video where the gsxr isn't the laughstock.
I just spent US$1200 on a CBR250R MC-19, so much fun
Hell, they could even do a comparison on which goes it with more style when subjected to a flame thrower.
I was glad to see the Rebel 250 make a comeback. It ain't much, but it ain't a Chinese bastardization of someone else's work. It did get a pretty harsh review for what it is. You can pretty much evaluate the bike in a glance.
I bought an '85 Rebel while in college. I somehow had the $600 on hand. Tried to teach a few friends to ride it. My roommate Earl brought it back and laid it over on the ground just like a kid would a BMX bike at the ball park. It was in gear and running. Facepalm. My friend Tim got whiskey throttle and rode it into the side of an appartment complex. Always the bike was running. They are tanks.
I have an adult friend who wants to learn to ride and I'm not suggesting any 250cc bikes. I think a "mature" but new rider needs a bike that can at least throttle out of trouble a little. You want something that excites you a little to ride. Something like an old ninja 500. Maybe an older Japanese inline 4 or v twin cruiser in the 600cc range.
I got blown around on roads a few times by Semi trucks on the Rebel. I mostly used it to park by the bike racks at UA. It was nice for casual rides on county roads. I liked to do power slides on dirt roads and feel the rear step out. It was easily controllable. The bike will forgive you if you are an absolute hooligan. It just doesn't have enough power to really hurt you.
I bet the interior parts of the Boomer engine look like cheap HF parts too compared to the Honda. Really, Honda could have just increased the displacement 100ccs and it would have been 3x better. Everything else was a bit overbuilt for the engine.
I didn't like the chrome battery box at first, but I grew to love it. I thought it made it look more like a Harley moped. I couldn't have one without swapping to the chrome battery box.
When you’re saying things like “performance “ towards a rebel 250 you know the Chinese bike is pants ! 🤣🤣
The Rebel 250 was one of my first bikes. I never sold even though I rarely ride it anymore. It's cheap backup transportation that consistently gets 75mpg.
i did, i bought a 2012 rebel 250. Not a scratch. Absolutely perfect. I will learn to ride it then sell it and ride the absolutely perfect 2012 dyna wide glide i got in my garage. Rode the Harley once. I'm 250 pounds and 5 ft 11. and with no skills could not handle it. Took you advise and got the 250 the next day. A MUCH happier camper.
With a 28t rear sprocket, ive gotten my Nighthawk 250 the rebs cousin well over 80mph with rpms to spare!
Its the cam and the gearing that has the reb 250 perform like a cement truck. Swap the sprockets and have a regrind done to get the cam a bit hotter, and the bike will start feeling like a 250 properly should.
Loved both my Rebels, I'd buy another to use as my daily commuter.
With the cost of gas, a rebel 250 would be an awesome commuter for the summer
Very insightful video and high quality as always with papa yams!
Before watching this video, I'm so interested in this test, because I just picked up a 2000 Suzuki Marauder 250, and while it is hilariously slow, I think it beats the tests you put the BD250 through in your video a couple weeks ago XD
I'm literally looking at this exact model Rebel 250 for my first bike, thank you for this video! :) I really want a Rebel 500 but I might start out with this 250 just to throw around for a year or 2 while I save for the 500!
Start with the 500 you will outgrow the 250 in a matter of weeks
I love my rebel it was my first bike and I’m going to keep it as long as I can
Ahhh that bike takes me back to my days in the rider course. They were so easy to zip and whip around on. Nice little bikes actually.
If this was the only motorcycle available we'd all be riding them with huge smiles on our faces.
Theyre very capable bikes theres no doubt. Not fast but that is a nimble unit. Theres a reason they had people who never rode motorcycles before and in only about a day they are doing 360 and 180s in the space of about two parking spaces and they do it on these things. My msf was on some old 150 and half the class was these rebels also and its wild how harcore of an emergency swerve you can do on these things
I spent $400 on my 2001 rebel. It was running just fine, but I replaced some parts just in case. I'm into it about $1,500 and about $500 of that is cosmetic.
Excellent video and I'm not surprised at the results because as you stated it's a Honda. 😁👍
Putting a steel braided brake line for the front would really increase the feel. The Honda Rebel was built to last. What do you think about seat comfort on the Rebel 250? Thank you.
I’ve got a silver 08 rebel 250 with 2,000 miles along with a GSXR 600 and a VTX 1300, the rebel is a very fun bike in town
Can't wait to see this on the track
Outstanding comparison. Done with actual performance measurements. I expect Boom to send Yammie a free motorcycle in box with no stipulations that has a KTM 390 engine marked as a Boom 250 engine next.
Looking at a 2006 now, thanks for this great review!
I'm surprised by the slow 0-60 time on both these bikes! I own a modest 2012 CBR250R and even with it's single cylinder engine and alledged 25 HP (doubt it) it does 0-60 in about 8 seconds. I guess that could be down to the gearbox, mine's a 6 speed and I imagine it's got closer ratios than the Rebel and the Chinese deathtrap. It also tops out at around 95 MPH but that's aero related for sure.
Have you verified those numbers with GPS? If the speedometer claims 95, it's probably optimistic by several miles per hour.
To be fair you're comparing apples against oranges; a liquid-cooled modern design against an air-cooled motor and transmission designed almost 40 years ago.
Love this. Can't wait to see the "Finale" of the Chinese bike saga. I completely agree that SOME people go way too hard on the classic small displacement bikes. They really do have their purpose... but that purpose was never meant to be carting a giant yeti of a human down a Texas highway at 80mph. (I don't mean you, Yam... just that average Americans do tend to be large). Dollar for dollar though you can't beat a used Japanese small displacement bike... you are riding a decent motorcycle from a reputable manufacturer in 2023 for about 2 or 3 grand.... we live in peak beginner bike time.
Great looking bike, good ride especially for small light people.
I'ma get me a Rebel 2fity. Thanks Yammie!
rebel 250 was my MSF bike, was great to learn on!
Definitely agree with I95 being the most dangerous. Been up and down the eat Coast and they only time i was genuinely scared while riding was on 95 out side DC. Back in the late 90's a truck that did strap stuff down well had a door fly off the bed right in front of me. It got picked up out of the bed by the wind at highway speed...
I,m pushing 70 been riding almost that long an seriously thinking of a rebel for a basket trip , speeding around is behind me , the rebel is lite with a short seat height , i'm six foot i can sit on it an hold my hand down an touch the ground , if it falls over i'm already on the ground before it even fell over , good fuel millage and steel frame can weld anything you want for racks an stuff , if it breaks down call the local lawnmower place where ever you are tell them to fix it an get a cheap room with whisky an google a happy ending to help you drink it , i'm calling that bike a win for the older man wants to travel an never get a speeding ticket 🙂
No, not the last nail. You should totally race the Chinese bike on the track, but have him on the Rebel and you on the Chinese bike so you can get his feedback on the rebel by comparison after having had to ride the Chinese death machine on the track XD
Yes!
250cc Japanese bikes are quite good, I have a V-star 250 and I’ve added like 10,000 miles to the clock, pretty nice :)
Great video for a beginner to watch!
Kind of want to see a race with all the different bikes venom sells see how long it takes before one blows up XD
I can’t imagine having started in such a wee little pea.
I didn’t get bored if my sv650 for at least a year
excellent vid!!
Papa yam, this is considered one of the fastest bikes in Africa Uganda, in fact I own one cb250 night hawk en I use it extreme offroad, en t handles great 😂
Wait till you ride a magna..
I've got a rebel I'm selling that's got 146 miles on it my wife got it new old stock and we just use it to introduce new riders it's got perfect paint and no miles I'm trying to get 1500 and every body here in Texas is like psshhhh 200 bucks and it's almost excellent condition it gets it's oil changed and services just doesn't get rode much lol
If I was near you, I'd buy it in an instant!
Well, we learned a few things in this video. 1) the rebel is no speed demon. 2) It is reliable regardless of it being slower than old people screw. 3) It still beats the boom in every way. Thats a huge win for the Rebel!
I got a used 250 cc Dong Fang Ghost motorcycle last year as my first motorcycle. Great motorcycle to learn on. Great in the city. Sleek looking. However it's it's impossibile to find parts for. No mechanic wants to work on it. When sometime breaks it takes weeks fof a simple fix. Looking to upgrade to a Rebel. Something light weight and reliable
I had a ‘95 nighthawk, it was awesome!
I've got a 2023 Kawasaki 230s. Battle Grey color panels. 200 miles.
Clean title. Will trade straight up for your rebel.
My 1982 Honda CM250 Custom got 72 mpg and topped out at 72 mph also. Probably have several of the same parts on them.
18" Front Wheel & 15" Rear wheel, the Rebel borrowed the original Big Wheel Design and that's why this lil bike is so flickable with outstanding front wheel tracking. My 2015 Rubidium Red, Honda Rebel is a beauty and sports more chrome & candy Red paint than the 'modern' bikes. It's a keeper and i bet will be collectible and hold its value because its a Honda.
I had the Honda cmx 250 1986 and it had a few mods and I'm 6 foot tall 89 kgs and I would ride it to work lean into a corner started wearing the foot pegs loved it I'm trying to get it back I'm now 65 and just want it for short drive around love the bike and fun to work on
Do the dyno tests!
I learned to ride on a 2001 Rebel 250. Once I moved on to another, more powerful bike, it was a 1982 KZ750-LTD. I was so happy at how much better the dinosaur KZ was than the Rebel. But I kept the Rebel because it's still a really good bike. For what it is, it does what it's supposed to and it does it well.
It's been 10 years. I still have that little Rebel. I no longer have the KZ750. I have a few KZ1000s from 1988, 1989, and 2002, and a 1983 KZ1100 now. They all run super reliably after I restored them. But you know what? The Rebel 250 blew a valve from running an open exhaust for 6 years because the exhaust stud broke, and I'm replacing its cylinder head as soon as the weather is warm enough for me to work on it. Already have the replacement in hand. It was $40.
I concur. Thank you. 🇨🇦 🤠
At 12:25, the Honda motor is a 234cc twin if I remember correctly.
I ride a shadow spirit 1100. I'm not parting with my 05 rebel 250 it's awesome too.
Gr8 comparison, gr8 analysis...😂😂😂
My 2010 rebel went almost 90 down hills. It was also brand new at the time with literally 1.5 miles on it when I got it. Great bike to start on or use as a gas saver. Not much else use from it unless you want the cheapest, easiest thing to work on yourself.
Dude, clean that air intake filter, and put some 93 octane gas in it. I have a 2014 CMX250C Rebel. I’ve had it pegged at 80 mph. I’m 230 pounds sitting on it too. Now I will say she gets a bit unsteady at 80 mph, but she’ll do it. I’d love to try and get my Rebel down to the Tail of the Dragon. I think it would be fun in the twisties there. My only complaint on the Rebel 250 is the seat is a little close. I’d like to move it back 2 inches. I’m 5’6”.
They are really great at being transportation. If you want fast, get a sportbike. Dirt rider? Get a dual sport, or full dirtbike. You want a big cruiser, get a Goldwing.
Those things are reliable, and are great transportation. Honda build quality, a good standard transportation bike.
The 250 Ninja is lots Funner, lol.
It’s a very lovely bike too pal 👌🤜
My rebel has 262292 kilometers on it, I have just finished rebuilding the engine and still using it till today.
that boom bd250 looks eerily the same as an old ninja 250 from my country
In mexico there is a chinesse brand named dinamo, it had a model the renegade 250 what is just s copy oaste of the honda engine
Don't ever sleep on the 250 Rebel. It's a beautiful classically styled motorcycle that will last longer than you! If you're looking for a budget commuter bike, this is it.
Honestly that was a great comparison 👏 with rational sound advice. And thanks cause I have looked at tons of knock off Chinese bikes thinking it can't be that bad. But at that price makes much more sense to just take my money to royal enfield instead
Not a sound comparison because not all Chinese motorcycle were tested. Why didn't he it against a Benelli, Lifan , or CFMoto motorcycle(s)? They are all Chinese made.
If you say so.. hear is a prime example of what you might get. My personal advice would be buy a harley. Not cause I'm a fan boy because it's literally the only manufacturer who has nation wide service. Good luck trying to find anyone who stocks Lifan parts
You may need to check the compression on that rebel. I have rode a 2014 Rebel for the last 8 years, and I drive highway @ 75-80 5 days / week. I put 10,000 on my first bike in 1 year. It got stolen last year (twice)! got it back both times, but I had already bought a new one (2015) with 24 miles on the odometer!
Hey Yammi is it ? iv got a suggestion ..how about doing a comparison between your little Reble 250 and compaire it to the Kymco Venox 250 ,id love to hear your thoughts ,what ya thinks ,and do the same tests your doing here as well as looks, comfort , the Venox has 28 hourse power and its has 19 torque.I tell ya i do not know why the Kymco Venox didnt do well in North Amarica. and the little Reble did so well for so long.
I rode this at the msf course
Papa yam! Review pitster pro/GPX moto bikes!
Yam u gotta compare the boom 250 to a a 300cc scooter 🤣🤣 I have a kymco x town 300 scooter I think it'll out preform the boom in every way
Soooo I have 99380 mi on my 06 Rebel. I have to have a vinyl sticker pretty soon to stick on the speedo.........+100k mi. Pretty good for something that only takes a quart and a half of oil.
I got a 1985 250 from my dad a while back haha!
I would love to know about the number of pistons on the brake caliper which is rarely mentioned in videos. I think the rebel has two.
It would be interesting to see Grom vs Boom on the track. I'm gonna guess that the Grom will win, purely due to it being a much more stable and confident bike.
Once again, the BD-250-5 goes BOOM !
Pappa yams i need help. I need your thoughts on the honda xr150l. Price is too good to be true, it has honda written on it, but im reading something about it being a honda/ chinese/mexican built conglomerate? Would love to hear your thoughts as the specs are perfect for my wife wishing to learn motorcycles.
I'd love to see you talk more about the Rebel 450. It's got about 5 seconds of screen time on your So You Want To Buy a Rebel video given that it kinda got lost in history
There's very little info about it on UA-cam - you'd be the man to do a killer review on it
It'd be great to see a comparison to the 250, or even to the 300/500!
I did look at the Chinese cheap 250s... No way I would ever buy one with 250 Rebels for sale. Good presentation. Im sold. Done
I do wonder if the boom bike, had a more free flowing air filter and an aftermarket exhaust would it be faster, at least for us over in the UK they usually come heavily choked to meet emissions etc
It's also a 1 cil vs 2 cil. In general a 2 cil will make more HP and can just rev way higher as a mono. Singles are also just bad on gas.
And that comes from someone with a 600 single
@@gorkzop That true, But if memory serve correct I'm sure little 4stroke engines like to be able to breath, And with a slip on and open pod air filter should be a bit better, But we can't look past it 13,000RPM rev range xD
Sweeeet. My wife started out with a pretty candy apple Rebel. A very sweet bike. She outgrew it kind of fast.
And check out that rear fender, I’d leave it mostly stock.
Yam! What gloves are you wearing? I need a new pair and I wanna homework the ones in this vid? Checked your website merch section, are they the Rev'it metrics??
Revit metrics!
@@yammienoob thanks papa yam
How do y’all lift the Rebel to clean and lube the chain? Or do you just roll the bike and spray?
PAPA YAMS
Plz do a full video on garage tour
I have a 2004 Nighthawk 250, and I'm pretty sure it has the same engine as this bike, but is there a difference between the two?
hat's thee gasoline used, regular or premium? I lot of the small gas stations do not pump premium
The fine folks at Venom must be thrilled after offering to buy one positive review, not having to pay, and seeing you get a month's worth of content out of their "motorcycle". (I'm assuming that they re-released all of these in China with glowing praise dubbed in.)
Would be cool to race the Rebel 250 against a high revving european bike like a SVARTPILEN 125 or Yamaha R125
I was lucky enough to be assigned to a brand new 2023 G-310 in my msf because I was one of the tallest people there
I hope he keeps making videos like these roasting the bd-250. lol
It's charming to think that Boom offered Yam a free bike with a stipulation that nothing negative could be said about it. So, how's that working out Boom? LOL
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I bought my rebel for 500 dollars . It was very clean but wouldn’t start. Cleaned the carb out a new battery started right up runs great
So Papa Yam, which is worse? The Boom BD250, or the Suzuki Gixer 250?
The new Honda Xr150l is under $3k, you need to review and compare that and the boom!
To be fair. The fact that the gauges are more or less 100% accurate than the Boom makes it a win. In Australia that Boom POS would never be allowed to be registered with the speedo out as badly as it was.
what about for on and off road? ive been looking at chinese dual sports cause i havent found any affordable japanese dual sports
IF that is all you can afford, the Hawk 250 is the best rated chinese enduro. Easy to work on, but make sure if you get it used, or even new, make sure all the screws and bolts are tight and loctited.
I'm in the market for a Rebel for Certain...but wanting the 500...
My MSF course had a few bikes but the one I got given was the rebel 250. It was the biggest POS I've ever ridden (and I know it's because it's been beat to hell). The controls felt janky and to change gears I would full on have to curbstomp down and use my entire leg to pull up. It was comically bad to the point that it was fun to ride in the parking lot
What to do with the Boom? Take out the oil plug, leave it out… Ride it ‘till it goes “boom”. Just do some kind of “engine blow” video.
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