7 Chinese Motorcycles that are WORTH IT
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Despite the majority of Chinese bikes-in-a-box out there being total pieces of junk, there are a select few that are decent or even good. In this video, I filter them out so you don't have to...you're welcome.
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Should've added Benelli TNT 600 papa yams
NK400 bro it's very famous here in PH because 400cc is the minimum requirements for you to be able to enter expressway.
You forgot Zontes
i want to win, i only have 125cc china bike for 11 years.
The bike you forgot was the new Moto Morini ADV Bike.
I live in Melbourne, Australia. I bought a Benelli TRK 502X new 18 months ago. I’ve done 117,000 km on this bike with little trouble. Yes, it’s heavy…but when you get caught in a crosswind, or buffeting caused by road trains you’re going to appreciate the stability of the bike. I do a yearly trip to far North Queensland, over 10,000km in 12 days, and the bike is awesome to ride. I get mine serviced every month at the dealership I bought it from and they just laugh when the check the km. It doesn’t have the “grin factor” that my Tiger Sport 660 has, but I can’t do 1000km + days on the Triumph either. Seat is really comfortable and butt only starts getting numb around 800km mark. Great bike for the money.
To be fully honest, Benelli is probably more reliable now than when it was Italian
This dude probably owns a benelli
Eyyy we made them to go fast not to last.
Not hard.
That's a very low bar
Believe me CFmoto has better quality then Qj or benelli
Benelli and QJ are both owned by Geely Holding Group. Geely also owns Volvo. I own a Geely car that was designed and engineered by Volvo engineers. The quality is just fantastic. There are some companies that are aware that Chinese products have a bad rap for being low quality. So they are making huge strides in quality by hiring engineers from reputable companies to improve their products. CFMoto has partnered with Japanese companies to make sure their products are of higher quality.
The CFMoto 300 NK is one of the few good quality bikes that get to Latin America for accessible prices. Most Japanese brands don't bother comercializing models with ABS, full LED lights, and good displays on the lower end, except in a few countries. Definitely what i'm aiming towards when i can afford it.
Nice, same for me, where are you from?, does cfmoto have good reputation in your country?, here in Costa Rica is somewhat marginal, but slowly getting acepted has good quality
@@jorgerivera6307 soy de Argentina. La marca esta aqui desde hace algunos años ya. Tiene buena reputacion entre los foros de mecanicos por su uso de buenos materiales, y muchos de sus repuestos son compartidos con motos KTM y con Honda, como los filtros de aire que son los mismos de la CB250 Twister. Lo unico que si me da cosita es que no tengo concesionarios cercanos para hacer valer la garantia, y que es dificil encontrar mecanicos que le entren a la parte electrónica de la moto, la cual tiene de sobra. Otros bloggers de paises como Chile, Colombia y demas hablan de experiencias similares. Algunos la tienen por muchos kilometros y el motor no se deprecia como usualmente se asocia con motos chinas. Otra marca muy bien tratada de entre las chinas es Voge, que viene de la mano de Loncin, aunque las Cfmoto son mas bonitas y mejor hechas en mi opinion.
Got 1500 miles on my 300NK, and loving the MPG life on it. It very nimbly weaves through Little Rock traffic, 7 miles one way, and is such a fun alternative to my 12mpg, but fun in a different way, Ram 1500. I am very soon getting the CLX700,or the 800NK next. The 700 is going as low as 4200 right now too.
In my country
It's just an overpriced bike
It cost like Duke 390 but is weaker than Duke 250
@@jerrybhai3362 let me guess, colombia or brazil, not trying to mock you, just geniunely trying to guess the market
I personally own a 250NK from CF Moto with over 52K kilometers on it, the last time I checked the valves all were still in spec (I checked them when the bike had 49k kilometers) never had issues with electronics nor engine, pretty happy with this brand to be honest.
I bought a Benelli TRK 502 back in December as my first bike.
Big bike small guy
But sure as hell big fun crushing those Kms here in Europe!
Benelli is overall a great manufacture. Here in Europe they're pretty popular, especially the Trk 502 and Bn 125. Also please take a look at the 302s and 752s. They're absolutely fenomenal bikes, in some ways better than their non-chinese counterparts.
I got a tnt300 as my first bike and fell in love, such a unique motorcycle and definitely underappreciated.
What u prefer cb500x or trk502?
I rode the 800 leoncino and its really fun and good compare to mt07 or ninja 650. It has the ducati monster 821 vibe and was much better than cfmoto xcl700. Tho it specs are not that good.
I have a benelli vlx 157cc which is good though
Would you guys recommend the 302s over a Gixxer 250? I'm researching where to spend my hard earned moneyz
I’m about to buy my first big bike after my 125cc.The TRK 702 looks so good in forest green and the reviews have been overwhelmingly positive. They listened to people and apparently fixed the issues they had with the 502.
I had a Benelli TNT 125 for a couple of years and then switched to a TRK 502 X, 255 lbs to 518 lbs lol fell down 4 times from stopped, then got used to it and it's an incredible motorbike. Reached 11111 km today!
As a chinese here, here are my personal recommended models if you wanna try chinese brands:
CF moto: 450 SR (sports), 800MT (ADV/Touring), NK450/CLX700 (Street)
Beneli: TRK 502 (ADV/Touring), 752 (cruise)
Kove: 450 RR (Sports), 800X (ADV/offroad)
Not recommending QJ moto bikes as they are bad for quality in general. I would vote for Kove with extra credit as the brand is really investing heavily on innovation and manufacturing their own stuff, the new 450RR parts/engine is really fantastic
How about zontes?
@@i-am-learning-life I would rank Zonte as Tier 2 brands as their engine quality may not be consistent from one to the other, can give a try for their Scooter 350D.
@@jw8767what about voge 300rr?
I recently bought a localized version of dayang vorei 150. I have had 1100 kms on it and I'm pretty happy about it. How it is recepted in China?
@@FernovVoge 300rr was popular like 2-3 yrs ago where not many manufacturers in the market ( their bike quality slightly better than others in old days). The engine is a reverse engineering from Kawasaki 300cc engine by manufacturer called Loncin.
I own a 2022 650NK and its great. Truly proper bike and my buddy that has an MT-09 rode it and he really liked it as well. Bought it brand new in November for 5300!!! I thought that was crazy and its been a great bike.
Just got the 300NK from CFMOTO, man I'm loving it, I drove a 125cc bike for almost 3 years (Honda CB125F), and this machine feels really good all around
Fun fact the Police force of China uses CFmoto 650MT's and 800MT's and recently Greece's police force has ordered dozens of them also. If the popo is using them then they have got to be somewhat reliable.
Politics not engineering steer purchases,
@@eflanagan1921 That too but from what I hear from peeps that have bought these and put miles on them they have had no issues easy acces to parts if needed, service intervals okay. Dare I say it it's like buying a kawasaki. The 650MT is based on the Kawasaki Versys engine design and the 800MT I think it's the same as the KTM 790 Adventure. So ya value for money and also reliable. The big 4 just became the big 5 it seems.
KTM reliable ??? LOL
i knew Greece is in deep shiet but this much troubles ?
@@nokia5359budget cuts have been kind of drastic though I think CFMoto isn’t a bad idea. Typically they use v-stroms and Hondas with the occasional aprilia. Honestly it’s good to see they are finally getting newer equipment as most of their vehicles are over 15 years old
I am really happy for this video. Not all Chinese bikes are equal. Especially if they are build for a European brand that is responsible for the quality check as well. BMW, KTM, etc. I own a Benelli TRK 502X and I love it. A bit on the heavy side but it is also very stable. Has a great road presence that makes it safe. Car drivers actually see you. Also the dealership in Cyprus is amazing. I totally recommend it. I am not a new rider. I am 52 and I have a background of a lot of sport bikes (NSR 250R, ZXR400SP, ZZR600...) so I believe that my opinion has some value.
Which Chinese brand builds BMW?
@@gigihanmandarin Voge.
@@gigihanmandarin
Voge.
KTM is connected with CFMOTO.
Benelli is connected with QJMotors.
Late to the party, but if you stumble on motorcycle called Haojue, it is literally just a Suzuki. Same quality, love it or hate it depending on your taste, and slightly cheaper. That's because Haojue was licensed directly by Suzuki to manufacture many of their low-end motorcycle and have their expert QC senior engineers. Haojue, in turn, use a lot of Suzuki technology and design. And yes, you can even find Haojue Gixxer clone.
I think I'd rather buy a Benelli shotgun...
Lifan is HUGE here in Bangladesh and south-east Asia region.
Their engines are rebranded everywhere as various chinese brands.
SEA? all I see is Honda Supra, Honda beat, Yamaha Nmax, or Yamaha MX King/Exciter everywhere. Rarely see Lifan. It's there but it's not that huge. Just exist and forgettable.
@@literallyhuman5990 Philippines not sure about other SEA. We have many Honda CG-125 and TMX 155 copies here, and scooter copies too.
I have Lifan LF 250b from 2009 and i have 130k km :)
I have a egl 300 cc dirtbike
With 31 hp and really good torque for 240 pounds and findable parts its nice
If I would describe in a non specs sheet nerd way
Its lightweight the low end and high end is good for a longer stroke engine and I can rev it like crazy and it doesn't blow up on me and a nice suspension adjust and it feels quite different
I love that the front end is light weigh and it wheelies very easily
I have a Benelli 302S that I basically stole from a local dealership as nobody wanted it, and I bought it with only 200 miles on the clock. Two and a half years and a couple thousand miles later, still a great bike with zero issues. All I’ve done to it are oil changes. I am very pleasantly surprised with it, especially considering what I paid for it.
I bought a 2023 benelli 302s in March 2023 I have almost 10k miles on mine with zero problems
Yup, I'm getting myself a QJmoto svr250 for birthday. It's gonna arrive this coming June. It's a beginner cruiser bike. Looks neat in that army green😬
Seen those Harley’s at the local Harley show for their learning school, they look cool, but a lot like the 750 that went belly up.
6 years of riding a CFMoto 650nk to and from work every day , weekend thrashes and it's not had a major mechanical break down , the water pump springing a leak within warrenty has been all .
I do all servicing on a regular basis myself and I am really impressed with this bike , 72 hp so it goes very well .
A licensed Kawasaki 650 twin engine
The Benda LFC 700 is worth a look too. It is an awesome "Cruiser" powered by an inline four cylinder 680cc motor that was derived from Honda. With a huge 310mm wide rear tyre, this machine looks like no other on the planet.
Yes, a beautiful bike !.Will buy one if landed in my country !
I just bought a 300nk out right. Loving it so far. My first bike.
Mind giving an update? Is it still running?
Bennelli 500 Rider in the US here, LOVE this little beast...just enough torque and power to be fun in the city and back roads, and still get you down the HW if you don't mind the slightly stiff tail turning your tailbone to dust. The 702 is not a beginner bike, it is the Adventure Bike you buy when you get divorced and she gets the BMW...you can even slap some badged boxes on the back and just block out the rest of the branding and only other BMW riders will know your pain and commiserate with you.
You should check Zontes too, the 300cc (now they are 350cc) are pretty good for their price. I got the R310 (19 model) they look awesome and they seem to be OK.
Their models look neeeat in person, but I would wait a little to learn more about their quality
@@victorrenevaldiviasoto9728 Just as good as Japanese bikes now in terms of quality and reliability, infact a lot of japanese manufactures make bikes in their chinese factories these days
Planning to change my SYm NXH 125 for a Zontes ZT310-V
Zontes t310 is value for money
@@Konstantinio I was pleasantly surprise by their build quality at the agency
Recently bought a Leoncino 500 2020, and man does it both look and ride beautifully, hopefully, the long-term quality will be reliable as I have found multiple bikes with well over 50.000KM for sale used. Wish me luck
I have the trk502 for 4 years and i only change the engine oil and filter . It’s an awesome bike
thanks yam!
Glad cfmoto got mentioned here
From a person who owned cfmoto 450sr (rr if you're Western)
I recently bought a CF Moto 650NK and I’m very shocked of how well it’s built, it’s quick for what it is and rides absolutely smooth
CFMoto also has 450 & 300 sport bikes for the beginner track riders
Voge is also a pretty cool chinese manufacturer having also constructed parts for big vompanies for example BMW. The Voge 500ds is a pretty cool and seemingly reliable ADV bike.
Voge (Loncin) are making excellent bikes, and when the 900 hits the European market, Yamaha, Honda and BMW sales will be hit. I have the 650dsx and engineering wise it’s great value for money and fun to ride. You made a good point and I feel Voge should have been included but the video seemed to centralise on Benelli.
Honorable mention to CFMOTO 450SS. Hopefully picking one up soon❤
They have an ADV touring version now
Bought a 90 cc Munster built in china ,10 yrs of abuse in,it has had two wheel bearings 1 chain and few back tyres ,fun little road bike
Ive been riding a cfmoto 300NK for the past 3 years. Recommended 👍🏽
I’m on a little lexmoto zsb 125, not my normal type of thing but it’s a great little bike and handles nicely
would u be able to review the CFMOTO 450sr/ss it seems like a realy cool bike to me
great vid btw
I’ve recently picked up the CFMoto 400GT as my second bike, and it’s perfect for me. Smooth and chill enough for riding comfortably in the streets, yet packs a decent punch on the highways.
i live in Belize and to be honest the Lifan brand of Chinese motorcycles are known to be quite reliable here they get the crap beat out of em and just keep going especially the ones with the Cg engine clone that uses a pushrod system and not timing chains they are crazy durable.
Solid inputs squid idol
I believe CFmoto has partnaship with KTM, some of the KTM bikes are manufactured by CFmoto in recent years.
In adidtion, HAOJIE should be mentioned. Basically it is a rebranded SUZUKI, the manufacture are monitored by SUZUKI's superivsors and most of the components are imported by SUZUKI from Japan.
isnt zontes there in the states? here in Spain they sell 125 and 350cc bikes with loads of technology, good styling and much lower price than brands such as KTM, yamaha, etc
I own a Benelli TNT249S 3 years now and albeit being on the heavy side at 200kgs wet weight, the ride is very pleasant. Not fast for a 250 but then again it's a naked bike
You have it backwards, CFMoto makes the engine for KTM. So KTM is using a CFMoto engine. Hope that helps. Actually looking forward to the CFMoto NK800, which will be a Duke 790 but cheaper.
I own a 2022 Venom KPR 200 made by Lifan and it’s a great motorcycle. Build quality is very good and reliability over the year that I’ve owned it has been outstanding. For a 200cc it does really well cruising around town or even hopping onto the interstate. Gas mileage has been great also, just an all around fun bike that I enjoy very much. I purchased it online from Venom motorsports and they have been great. Budget motorcycles may not be for everyone, Y noob included but for some of us they are a very viable option.
I’m heavily leaning towards a Venom Sportster 200, it’s $2000 and need something to learn on that I won’t be scared to scrape up. Is it essentially the same motor/transmission as the KPM 200?
@@SCIFIguy64 No it's not the same engine as the KPM200, it actually has a 223cc engine. I'm not really familiar with the venom sportster but venom has been good about taking care of their customers, and the sportster would probably be a good bike to learn on.
@@SCIFIguy64YES!! I literally just bought the 2022 VENOM SPORTSTER CHOPPER | 250CC MOTORCYCLE. Comes in in 2 weeks fully assembled. I never rode a bike before so wanted a nice cheap starter so we shall see.
@@Vasquez19781 Awesome Vasquez! Congratulations on the new bike? I hope you have a lot of good times on it.
These all read like paid comments lmao
i love the cf moto 450sr but no proper dealers with stock in East Malaysia with good workshop (mostly oily on pavement servicing) parts no stock yet and second hand value possibly an issue to face...but what a great review sounding and looking bike!
I've been watching yaminoob vids for years on and off but haven't liked or subscribed to the channel until this video. This was probably not paid for buy OEMs but so honest in bringing up the conversation of global manufacturing. Everyone's favorite new bikes are made using these design and build techniques. Really cool exposure to some more legit Chinese brands.
There’s only a handful of dealers that sell theses bikes in the CA SF Bay area. A few of these I didn’t know existed. I like this type of vid.
Should have mentioned the Keeway sub brand MBP. I have a MBP M502N and until now have nothing to complain about it. They are releasing a lot of new models soon
That's too wired, a sub brand, but actually a better quality one from a sub brand of Benelli, which is a sub brand of qj motors..
But it's actually a better version of the Honda cb 500 in every shape or form!
A wasted opportunity, because Keeway succeed where Benelli didn't, cheap naked bikes. MBP is a more expensive Keeway, it's basically without purpose or meaning. If i choose Keeway, it's because of it's untouchable asked price to value ratio, not because it's supposed to be better than x or y..
Rkf 500 needs to be born, as a natural upgrade for those millions of squids, MBP is just another voge 500.
The Boom BD250 haha soften the heart of Papa Yam
papa yam can you please make a video about Cfmoto 450SR or 450SS for the American boys?
Zontes G1 125 ccm, spoke wheels - I just bought it for urban commuting for my partner. Spending like 3000+$ you get really ..... not joking .... high quality. Surprised?
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ👉@MrYammie_noob👈 Yeah, i ride one to, best money I ever spent on an everyday bike city
I have a Lifan KPX 250 which is a Chinese bike. I got it new for $2600 and i love it. I have put a little over 22,000 miles on it with no trouble so far. It is a dual sport and i always still get a smile on my face when riding it. That's what it is all about.
I have about 1000 miles on my Lifan X-pect 200, paid $2200. Zero trouble. Excellent mileage. Fast enough. Absolutely worth what I paid.
Hey hey hey papa yam that benelli Leoncino 500 trail video was not the 500 but the new 800 trail you should test that one, that’s a real good bike
I think hear in the UK most 125 bike's are Chinese and they aren't doing to bad like lexmoto and zontes they are holding their value well I mean there 40 percent cheaper so when they get sold people aren't really loosing that much money percent wise there holding their value better than I thought they would bigger displacement I can't comment as there aren't many Chinese bike's available except CF moto
Yea Zontes are the more popular brand in the UK
Cfmoto clx 700 sport is nice as well just bought a 2022 for $4999 as they’re making way for the 2023’s they have dual front disc with Brembo stylema calipers and most of the same stuff as the heritage model otherwise
I'm strongly considering a CFMoto clx-700 Heritage for my next bike. They have are actually very comfortable to ride, while still being more upright in the seating (a big plus for me).
The 350cC... Yummy yum I likey. But thanks for the education till now I thought that Beneli was still an expensive Italian brand.
The Cf moto 450sr also good motorcycle. It has Crossplane 2 cylinder and 47hp
i remember when i was riding my little moped, no one else were, i was like the first ever person around my town and surrounding towns lol. i went everywhere with my moped, even up to the mountains lol. it was a kymco ZX-50. that little 50cc was a beast and the whole bike itself was built with exceptional quality... i obviously progress to motorcycles but that little kymco zx50 was like the first girl that you'll never forget... not all chinese product is junk.
Anybody got any experience with the QJ SRK 400 or SRV 550? Im looking at buy one of those because and look amazing.
Papa yam! Best motorcycle videos on youtube
I'd like to add Lifan to this list.
Lifan X pect 250cc dual sport is really reliable and fun
You didn't include the ktm 790 knock off, the cf moto 800NK! Very new, but I'm personally keeping an eye out for it.
And once again, thank you for the very good videos,and the honesty
I figured the Amazon specials came from the same supplier but I'm still curious how their quality breaks down among their sub brands a la Ryobi and Milwaukee.
hey mate! Do you have any knowledge about Daytona Maverick 500cc? Would be helpeful since im on a low budget and want to get my 1st bine for touring/small adventure, travel around and general use but I can barely find anything on the web/youtube about her.
My local Harley dealer has the 350X’s for their training courses according to a FB post…
Here is the list
- Benelli
- zontes
- keeway
- qjmotor
- motomorini
- cf moto
These are geniune and reliable chinese brands
If this video doesn't include Loncin motors I'll riot...
come on, even chinese are making sideeye towards Loncin motorcycles ,they are nothing but making shit motorcycle
Really missing Moto Morini, Similar to Benelli as a Chinese bought Italian manufacturer. Also missing Voge (Loncin).
Living in China - the main newer big 3 here: Voge, Kove (Colove), and Zontes - and the resale is weak here as well, but they are some sweet bikes. I currently have a 2019 GW250 - great machine, I’m fighting with the idea of getting something larger … just too many options in the candy store😂
Just saw the Ibex 800 T and The 800s in person. Don't care what anyone says... They're fuqin nice.
KTM engine
My first bike was a Lifan Lycan 250 cc cruiser. Now I got a cfmoto 650 Adventura
Figured I'd watch this moments after getting back from a ride on my new X-Pro Lanai 150 scooter lol. Yes it came in the box 80% assembled and yes it's Chinease. But I'm 88 miles in and I'm loving it. It has also started with the first push of a button every single time I have ridden it so far including the first time. There is this weird whine at super low speeds (below 30 mph) and for the life of me I can't get the front brakes not to half drag but it's a lot of fun. Quick too for what it is. Kawasaki z400 is next on my list, got this to see if I like riding.
My Yamaha was manufactured in China. It's fun and reliable.
it might not be common in the US but in Europe benelli is one of the most sold brands (1st in Italy as least)
@ᴍᴇssᴀɢᴇs ᴍᴇ ᴏɴ ᴛᴇʟᴇɢʀᴀᴍ 👉@MrYammie_noob oh hey scammer
As an Italian I can confirm this. Benelli has become a "known" and commonly sold motorcycle. With now a lot dealers all over and they seem pretty reliable (not japan level...but good enough ) and good looking. I think in part the name/brand played an important part, in the sense that even if a Chinese producer did make good motorcycles, that wouldn't be enough without the italian name/brand behind it. If I were to say I have a Benelli in Italy it's like "ok", however if I were to say I have a "ching chung chang" (any chinese name) the reaction would be negative and "what is that?" regardless of how good the motorcyle actually is. So it has to do with both the quality, but believe it or not, even just the name/brand behind it.
I shocked to see nothing from csc on the list. Thanks for the video
Wait a minute. Where's the closing shot of Yammie swimming with the shark. dammit.😂
Yammie would love to see you do a review on the cfmoto 450sr I went and see one in person in australia and it looked amazing tbh for a small sports bike.
I own a Zontes u125 two years now. Not a singel problem.😊
My Nov. 2008 China Scoot, was mechanically ok (did about 4,000 miles on it before giving it to my father in law), but it did have fit and finish problems/ as in the seat opening mechanism failed in the first month/ and myself and the local moto shop never figured out how to "reattach" the spring cables to "fix" it. but that aside/ it was an ok ride for a 150cc "touring size" body (had to mount the windshield, battery, rearview mirrors, and floor mats) Oh, and don't forget the REASON people buy cheap China Bikes, it was $1300 bucks delivered.
**although I do like my Kawasaki, Versys x300 I ride now/ nice to have well made everything.
What about the CF MOTO 450 SS ??? Have you had a chance to check one of them out yet? Any thoughts or input on them compared to R3 or ninja 400
Hey Yammie, I've been your subscriber for quite a long time and i wanted to start my motorcycle journey on a 300. I wanted a proper review on a bike named benelli 302s 'cause its just one of my favourites. i couldnt find any decent ones so i was just hoping if you could make a review on the bike. hope you consider my request.
i got a cf moto 800 nk. not a big one but a light one, extremly maneuverbal. good power (95hp) weight (186kg) ratio.
I have had my Benelli Zafferano scooter going on 5 years now. Not sure on mileage speedo went out around 5k miles ..2019 when i put away for season lol.
Gonna get my 450sr soon❤❤❤
Early zongshen dynasty dohc 4 valve porcelain, beautiful
I've been eyeing the Benda LFC700 for a while now but as it's not really available anywhere in the west I haven't collected a lot of information from people actually using it. Does anyone have any decent info on it? This seems like a good place to ask.
where's the Moto Morini X-Cape 649 in this revieuw?
What do you think about the Benelli 302S? I think that's the best beginner bike from Benelli
PAPA YAMS
Plz do a full video on garage tour
I have the CF Moto 650 Adventura and love it!
I heard about a cf moto that had a stainless bolt in an ally swing arm causing it to corrode and snap off when he went to adjust the chain
Have you done a talk about the arc vector motorbike and haptic suit etc yet?
I've got a csc rx4 adv (zongshen Cyclone rx4/500)... nothing new comes close for the price, or even offers the features
Hey Yam, could you please review a CFMoto 450 SR. I bet you will love it =) Thanks
Hey, where did you get the stills for the Leoncino? Most of them have "test plates" from my hometown in India 😊
I have a CfMoto 800mt. Bang for buck its amazing. Only a few months old, so it will be interesting to see how ot age's. CfMoto is releasing a 1250 which uses the Ktm1290 engine. In KTM form it makes 160hp. I wish i still had my KTM1290SAS
Well i bought a trk502x last weekend, and it is big and heavy but surprisingly nimble, and it was cheap like $4K and low mileage, so overall great deal