@@St.FighterZ Sir, I believe your sarcasm module is running low on detection fluid. We advise you to locate your nearest emo concert to get a quick top off.
dude, make a playlist of "How to" videos on the channel. I genuinely learnt to ride from your videos. when I went for my first training I blew the trainers mind. Knowing how things work helped me a lot.
little tip for anyone trying to learn how to rev match, it's much more forgiving shifting from a higher gear like 6th to 5th... rather then trying from say, 2nd to 1st lol. i nearly launched myself over the house trying low gear... once you get it you get it, it's pretty easy and becomes second nature after awhile.
@@casualuser8064that’s what I would do and just put the bike in first and slowly let out if the light turned green or the stop sign was clear lmao. I just got my bike yesterday tho
@@casualuser8064that’s what I’ve been doing for the month I’ve been riding. I’m trying to learn to rev match as I didn’t realize the way I was doing it wasn’t proper
@@casualuser8064 i used to think this too but my mt07 doesnt like that and gets stuck - wont change gears when i come into full stop in 2nd or above - then i have to waddle a bit so the chain catches the gear properly and then it will shift... So gotta go trough all the gears when coming to a full stop
Coming from a beginner rider who used to cruise with the clutch pulled in to downshift or come to a stop, I can confirm that this is the way. Thanks Yammie, literally boosted my confidence in riding from this video!
Also a lot of people don’t know that pulling in the clutch and coasting with the bike still in gear can wear out your clutch pack faster if done frequently especially if you don’t have a slipper clutch
Clutch. Blip throttle. Increased rpm’s that come from throttle don’t make you go faster because clutch is pulled. Downshift into the lower gears while the rpm’s are high to match engine speed to transmission speed. Motorcycle doesn’t lunge and is happy. Did I get that right?
Yes that's basically what this is about. There's in fact more to this but for a beginner and/or casual rider, the main goal ist to controll the load balance of your bike to not get into any uncomfortable or unstable situations. As he said, shifting down to fast without matching RPM and wheelspeed is a bit like hitting brakes. Tho it won't let your front wheel stall because bikes are rear wheel driven (who would have thought) but it will transfer a lot of weight forward and it can cause your rear wheel to slip or stall if you shift down to fast and let the clutch snap. This is a very common problem for beginners that should be avoided. The quick weight shift to the front is also very unexpected for beginners and can cause further problems such as slipping of the handlebar which would most likely end your ride in a very uncomfortable way. So basically 2 things you should do and master: 1. Clutch control so you can transfer power between wheels and gearbox smoth both up and down AT ALL TIME (even when panicking!) and 2. rev control which simply means to learn to get a feeling or understanding of how your engine, gearbox and current speed works and get a feeling for which gear fits which rpm and vice versa. This sounds pretty complicated but it's something you'll learn over time, for the beginning it's good enought to understand, that you should increase RPM before your clutch into a lower gear. You can even learn to shift (up and down) without using the clutch at all, ths may not work for every bike / gearbox but in general it's pretty simple, you just have to match Engine RPM to the wheelspeed/gearbox RPM and your gear will just snap in. This is not expecially useful or needed in any (common riding) situation except your clutch is broken but it's a fun thing to learn and helps to understand your bike even better. Tho there are severyl race classes (Super Moto or MX) where it's pretty commonly used.
Clutch, blip, downshift. all youre doing is matching the rev as if you were to UPSHIFT, but in reverse. youre pretty much telling the smaller gear to speed up so when the big gear drops to the lower gear, the big gear isnt handing over more than what the small gear can handle.
Pretty much. When u upshift you prep the gear shifter by slightly raising it (without changing gear very light touch) pull in clutch and follow through the shift. Its a lot smoother when u prep your up shifts it’s not too noticeable when ur riding alone but with a passenger if you don’t upshift smoothly you’ll be bashing helmets every shift lol
I'm so glad I watched this video. I'm a noob. Did my course and got my license but was never taught that you will need to downshift to get through and out and corner.
The tricky part isnt the downshift itself its modulating the front brake while rev matching. Took me some time to master heel/toe in a car and this is the same idea
I'm am a driver from Germany, driving an older (2005) Ducati Monster, even after not riding a motorcycle for about 25 years (restarted last year), Flipping the throttle comes naturally for me, don't know why, it feels like the gearbox feels happier, I even shift down while cornering, but only after a required trail braking. However be sure to relieve your clutch carefully.
I completed a motorcycle safety course before I bought a motorcycle. Here in American specifically in the state I live in, Minnesota, MSF ( Motorcycle Safety Foundation) offers a 3 day beginner course and at the end of the 3rd day you take your motorcycle license test. It also gives me a discount on my insurance. I am a significantly better rider because of that course. The instructors were 50-55 year olds that ride every day. They taught you the correct way and didn’t allow any bad habits to form. What was taught to us was to not change gears up or down while turning due to the potential traction loss. While I occasionally downshift or up shift in a turn I don’t dare do it at higher lean angle or in slippery road conditions
Even though I'm still saving for a bike, this definitely helped me way more than other videos I've watched. Thank you for this man! Much love from Philippines!
Thank you for making this video, I'm just getting into riding motorcycles and want to be safer than sorry and this video was the answer to what was running in my mind.
I was 20 and on my 4th stick shift car when I bought my first bike, although I had ridden bikes before. In a car you leave rubber on the road when you downshift without rev matching, so you figure it out pretty quickly without hurting yourself. It is hard for me to imagine getting on a bike with no prior clutch/shifting experience. Still, it doesn't seem that complicated. Of course once you are familiar with your bike it should be second nature. If I hopped on a new bike I would be careful while getting the feel of it.
thats how i feel - rev matching seems very advanced to me as a brand new rider, but everyone says its the best way and should be learned early on. its so much going on at once and i can hardly downshift the basic jerky way as it is!
Been on two wheels exclusively for the last year and a half, and the thing that I still can't quite nail down is downshifting properly while also applying the front brake. Keeping constant pressure on the lever while also blipping the throttle has proven... difficult. I usually either end up stabbing the front brake if I actually try it, say screw it and downshift while using the rear brake, or say screw it even harder and downshift once I'm stopped if I'm slowing down hard enough that needing the front brake is more important at that moment than downshifting.
@@chaseweeks2708this is exactly what i was wondering..bc for stop lights ive just been braking, clutch, and banging down the through the gears in one go 💀 idk if thats totally wrong? I just got my bike and the msf doesnt really go over any of this
@@chaseweeks2708 this is true. i took the intro and beginner rider course here and we only went to 2nd gear for most of the maneuvers.. so there wasn't much instruction about proper shifting. they basically just taught a few techniques and then said "alright now go ride in traffic" so i dont really know that im doing haha 🫠
@@JKim-gt2fd He mentions something about that @11:22. I'm usually not riding around in such a hurry that I would even worry about blipping the throttle. Got plenty of time to ease in the clutch.
I downshifted in the middle of a corner the other day. It felt horrible, I though I was done for. Hopefully I was riding slow and didn't loose too much grip. Just had a good scare.
No wonder i was crashing back then...Thankyou for the tutorial. My first crash was downshifting when in the mid corner because it's too fast and i forgot to downshift afraid will crash to pedestrian/someone house so i downshifted in mid corner caused the bike to unstable....
So why would you want to blip the throttle before pushing down a gear? Doesnt it matter most when you are matching the revs to the new gear you'll be releasing the clutch into? Like couldnt you just hold clutch, go down gear, blip throttle, then release clutch?
I was just asked about this subject. My buddy bought my old DRZ SM and hasn't been riding long. He wanted to know when I down shift. I said it all depends. Depends on if I know I'm coming to a complete stop or if the light may change on my approach, or if I'm first in line? All depends. Also depends on if I'm approaching a corner or roundabout. Soon I'll take him out for some instructional rides. Be fun to get the KTM and DRZ on the same roads. The old Suzuki is a great bike to learn on. Can learn throttle blipping, sliding and give it all the beans without worries. It's the perfect adult beginner bike. I do miss the all the flat out antics on the 400. The 690 is a whole new animal 😈 Now go out and find that unexpected pile of sand on your favorite fast sweeper.😏
If you time it right, you can still blip the throttle during clutchless downshifts. I've been doing this since the early 80's on everything from Guzzi's to Triumph triples and japanese 4's. No problems.
Did just that for four days on a Suzuki GS850G when my clutch cable snapped and carried on working as a courier while waiting for a new one to arrive. It's all about timing your clutchless upshifts with no load on the engine, so high revs..... cut throttle..... shift up...... all at the same time. Clutchless downshifting needs you to let the revs drop quite low before kicking down to avoid locking up the rear wheel. Taking away from standstill without clutch was interesting as you stick in second gear, hold on tight and hit that starter button which just hauls you straight up the road! Not sure modern bikes with all their electronics would allow that to work as I was on a Honda Varadero 125 which I rode down a small flight of stairs as a short cut (Hey, I it's a courier thing.) but smashed something off the base of the engine which stopped me from engaging first gear. Neutral..... bike fired up..... first gear...... cut out.........back to the mechanic!
Simply braking without rev-matching could result in abrupt shifts, making the car less stable, especially in high-performance or manual driving situations. Rev-matching keeps everything smooth and balanced, especially under spirited driving conditions.
The issue I'm having is what's the best technique to blip throttle *while* holding the front brake. Usually if I'm coasting to a red light I just give up and only rear brake or if I need to stop quick I just clutch out and deal with the gears later. It's not ideal
@@rodrigovaccari7547 Or your front brake depending on what you're doing. You're already causing your bike to slow down by engine braking, if you're using the rear brake and let the clutch out too quick, it can lock up the back.
The auto-blip on that platform only kicks in if you’re quick shifting exactly how the bike wants you to; if you aren’t engine braking in the right rev rage or if you touch the clutch, you’re on your own for the downshift. I occasionally use it, but it’s definitely not very versatile.
I just bought a brand new 2024 Suzuki DRZ400S and I believe it has the exact same color. Love the color. Have had many people yell at me hey nice bike. But I've also had many people yell at me ride a wheelie and they do the Willie motion you know which is starting to get kind of annoying LOL I can't ride a wheelie yet. I'm learning but not yet. I can pop a wheelie but I can't ride one because it scares me to death the closer I get to the balance point LOL
Great video. My takeaway is down shifting before the corner or after I’m through it. The description and demonstration of rev matching was spot on too. Thank you!
Simple. Jam it down three, lock the rear and your bike wags it's tail. If your rear tire skips change compound. Slipper clutch don't matter if you drop enough
If you were walking across a narrow beam over 100ft of water, would you be focused? Absolutely! Motorcycle riding for me is the same. Especially cornering. There’s times when I know I’m starting to ride above my head and this video is a great example. Going into a turn too fast, panic downshift, slight skid, and I ride like a granny the rest of the day. 😂
I downshift without a blip at about 3-4k RPM, when the bike is clearly lugging. It's comfortable for both of us. Otherwise, it even feels bad if I let off the throttle too abruptly. Feels like braking on a liter V-twin with 11.1:1 compression ratio
Great content. I got my first bike and has no tachometer. What’s the best way to tell when to shift? This video will help me with the lurching going down. Going up gears I think I’m doing fine but going down I can’t tell if I’m in the correct gear.
The reason I have trouble is sometimes your downshifting to slow down, sometimes your downshifting to speed up. When slowing down Its hard for me to blip the throttle accurately while im grabbing the front brake. I end up just letting out the clutch slowly. I'm getting better at rev matching when I'm downshifting to speed up
Keep calm, roll out the throttle, smoothly apply pressure to the front brake, try to bring the bike upright as much as possible, eyes up and forward, look for a way around the obstacle.
OK, the correct term is intermediate throttle. In the early automobile days this was mandatory because gearboxes weren't synced back then so you had to do that to shift down, otherwise the gearbox wouldn't let you put the gear in. Modern gearboxes are usually synced so you can alsmost always put the gear but there's still a difference between motor / gearbox rpm and wheelspeed which you want to balance as smooth as possilble to get as much control. This is not only true for bikes, it's also helpful when driving a manual transmission car and it is pretty common in car racing for the same reasons > load balancing during braking and keep engine and wheels "close together" for most possilbe performance.
thanks papa yammie i been doing the downshifting correctly for about a year with the first video you uploaded and i love it I TOTALLY FUCKING LOVE IT THE SOUND THE SMOOTHNESS that even the squids just are looking me with their faces saying :O how he does that? what is even he doing? id been doing this in my Suzuki GD115 AX4 evolution 115CC gang here :D and as you say it try to get the gear before entering the corner!!!!!! that is a fucking W there thanks papa yammie!!!
To engage "Loop Mode" just rev and hold it at redline while holding in the clutch, get into a full tuck with one foot still on the ground, make sure its in 1st gear, and immediately and fully release the clutch! To engage "Launch Control" and attain the yeetus maximus, hold the revs at something reasonable while holding the clutch in, make sure its in first gear, and balance the friction zone of your clutch with your throttle as you always do, and try not to burn your clutch out or loop it!
I've just gotten myself a Suzuki SV650S from 99' and I was wondering what I was doing wrong during downshifts. It felt a bit dangerous during corners. I knew I was doing something wrong but I din't have this problem with my old bike, GSX750E 80'. I guess I'll have to practice a bit at this now. Probably a really good idea I din't get that TL1000S afterall.
Downshifting is not my weakness... I just brought some new riding boots, I was going to get Adventure boots, but found some touring boots that I liked... but I can't move... they are thicker than what I used to wear, and I have trouble getting my boot under the lever to shift up, and when I do and go to shift up again, the boot hasn't let the lever come back down far enough to push it up to the next gear..., It's not my foot, I just can't push the boot low enough for it to release the lever, I'm going to have to adjust the lever to get my boot under it! (but I'll start by taking the rubber pads out of the footpegs)
yammie! love the content. I'm fresh out of the MSF, and just bought my first bike. A cruiser, Honda Shadow. been practicing in empty parking lots but when I'm on the road I'm still struggling (freaking out) with shifting. any pointers for a baby rider?
why is that better for the bike than just using clutch dropping gears but not going in gear and slow down with breaks? and if the light goes green again while you are doing it pop the clutch and put gear that matches your speed? its so much less work and you need to mach just once.
Because it wont work if you wanna downshift whilst riding Its also slow, engine braking is a usefull part of riding a bike fast, corner entry, and general riding. You are WEARING your brakes out really really fast by doing what you are doing.
You could also slow down using the brakes and than downshift without having to blip the throttle, as long as you are going slow enough not to lunge forward. But than you're not using the advantage of engine braking.
I might just be missing the point here, but why do you need to do go through all gears? Is it just to utilise the engine breaking for slowing? I am having hard time seeing why I should do this over breaking and shifting several gears down to match. Thanks.
As a beginner rider I cannot see doing it while braking with my front brake. Engine braking is all good but I'd rather use my front brake to deaccelerate faster in the city traffic and also warn the car behind me with that brake light. How can one blip the throttle while pulling the front brake leaver? 🤯I also try to close the throttle asap when braking and do it also when upshifting.
I’m assuming that using the friction point on the clutch instead of rev matching causes increased wear and tear on the clutch? I generally don’t rev too much but I ease of the clutch between gears so I engine brake very slowly. I’m sure it depends on the bike.
What do you advise a beginner biker who goes into a corner with too high of a gear and slows down too much with front and back brakes? The bike negotiates the corner, but it starts to jerk in the middle of the corner due to not having enough speed in high gear. How do you safely downshift in the middle of all that?
This helps a lot, thanks. I do have another question: is it ever OK to just pull the clutch in and come to a stop without downshifting? Like if I'm in 4th coming up to a stop sign, does it damage the bike or something if I only pull the clutch and brakes?
TL;DR It's a bad habit. Always stay in gear. If you cant rev match, just use clutch slip - clutch it, down a gear, slowly release the clutch. Great method if you are new or not confident enough to rev match. Gives you stopping power, you can do it while using the front brake (as no throttle input is needed) and you get the habit of being always in gear. In your case instead of pulling the clutch in 4th you can try this: while decelaring in 4th, clutch slip to 3rd, then to 2nd gear and pull in the clutch to come to a complete stop. Then find neutral and wait for the green light. Why is it good to be always in gear? Well if you think about it if the transmission and engine are not connected to the rear wheel, you basically riding a bycicle, you lose a huge amount of stability and control over the motorcycle. Stay safe
what if i downshift without letting off the throttle? it automatically rises the rpm enough while i have pulled the clutch. i have tried it few times but i have never seen anyone do it idk why
Shifting up or down isn’t a great idea while at a significant lean angle as clutching in takes power away and then shifting and letting out brings power back very fast and can cause you to lose traction and slide out . Downshifting is a lot easier to have a mess up and slide out
Say you're slowly decelerating to a red light. Do you still have to blip when downshifting or is it ok to just let out the clutch if the RPMs aren't that high?
So how do you emergency brake/downshift? Do you pull the brake in and downshift? It took me a while to learn to use the clutch on my trike, but I imagine it’s the same on the bike. I’ve always been unsure as how to slow down if I’m doing it the right way. Is it brake-then clutch - then downshift in that order? Please advise! Thanks
Another reason to get a liter bike. Most of the time you can just stay in first gear all the time. Best beginner bike.
Stay in gear, steer with the rear.
@@St.FighterZit was probably a joke mate
😂 Hilarious. Definitely a joke, and true.
@@Bikesandreview some people don't get the joke
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dude, make a playlist of "How to" videos on the channel. I genuinely learnt to ride from your videos. when I went for my first training I blew the trainers mind. Knowing how things work helped me a lot.
Me too guy I bought my first bike from told me to watch yammie noob and that's how I learned how to ride thanks papa yam
same dude so much better than what the msf teaches you
Yeah Yammie Noob and Moto Control are how im learning right now. Hoping to take the course in September.
Been watching you for YEARS and two days ago I finally got a bike, you’ve been a godsend. Thanks man
Nearly the same, been watching motorcycle content for years and finally got one last month. Good luck and happy riding \o/
little tip for anyone trying to learn how to rev match, it's much more forgiving shifting from a higher gear like 6th to 5th... rather then trying from say, 2nd to 1st lol. i nearly launched myself over the house trying low gear... once you get it you get it, it's pretty easy and becomes second nature after awhile.
I don’t believe you’ll ever need to rev match into 1st gear
@@scottnielsennI bet the majority of people are just going to pull the clutch in when coming to a stop, even from a few gears up
@@casualuser8064that’s what I would do and just put the bike in first and slowly let out if the light turned green or the stop sign was clear lmao. I just got my bike yesterday tho
@@casualuser8064that’s what I’ve been doing for the month I’ve been riding. I’m trying to learn to rev match as I didn’t realize the way I was doing it wasn’t proper
@@casualuser8064 i used to think this too but my mt07 doesnt like that and gets stuck - wont change gears when i come into full stop in 2nd or above - then i have to waddle a bit so the chain catches the gear properly and then it will shift... So gotta go trough all the gears when coming to a full stop
You got my like for the caterpillar comment, gotta love a rider who appreciates random nature. 😁
Coming from a beginner rider who used to cruise with the clutch pulled in to downshift or come to a stop, I can confirm that this is the way. Thanks Yammie, literally boosted my confidence in riding from this video!
I’ve been doing the same thing for a while. Never knew it was wrong 🤷🏽♂️
Also a lot of people don’t know that pulling in the clutch and coasting with the bike still in gear can wear out your clutch pack faster if done frequently especially if you don’t have a slipper clutch
Clutch. Blip throttle. Increased rpm’s that come from throttle don’t make you go faster because clutch is pulled. Downshift into the lower gears while the rpm’s are high to match engine speed to transmission speed. Motorcycle doesn’t lunge and is happy. Did I get that right?
yup.
So happy I watched this video, because my downshifting has been so bad until now.
Yes that's basically what this is about. There's in fact more to this but for a beginner and/or casual rider, the main goal ist to controll the load balance of your bike to not get into any uncomfortable or unstable situations. As he said, shifting down to fast without matching RPM and wheelspeed is a bit like hitting brakes. Tho it won't let your front wheel stall because bikes are rear wheel driven (who would have thought) but it will transfer a lot of weight forward and it can cause your rear wheel to slip or stall if you shift down to fast and let the clutch snap. This is a very common problem for beginners that should be avoided. The quick weight shift to the front is also very unexpected for beginners and can cause further problems such as slipping of the handlebar which would most likely end your ride in a very uncomfortable way.
So basically 2 things you should do and master: 1. Clutch control so you can transfer power between wheels and gearbox smoth both up and down AT ALL TIME (even when panicking!) and 2. rev control which simply means to learn to get a feeling or understanding of how your engine, gearbox and current speed works and get a feeling for which gear fits which rpm and vice versa. This sounds pretty complicated but it's something you'll learn over time, for the beginning it's good enought to understand, that you should increase RPM before your clutch into a lower gear. You can even learn to shift (up and down) without using the clutch at all, ths may not work for every bike / gearbox but in general it's pretty simple, you just have to match Engine RPM to the wheelspeed/gearbox RPM and your gear will just snap in. This is not expecially useful or needed in any (common riding) situation except your clutch is broken but it's a fun thing to learn and helps to understand your bike even better. Tho there are severyl race classes (Super Moto or MX) where it's pretty commonly used.
Clutch, blip, downshift. all youre doing is matching the rev as if you were to UPSHIFT, but in reverse. youre pretty much telling the smaller gear to speed up so when the big gear drops to the lower gear, the big gear isnt handing over more than what the small gear can handle.
Pretty much. When u upshift you prep the gear shifter by slightly raising it (without changing gear very light touch) pull in clutch and follow through the shift. Its a lot smoother when u prep your up shifts it’s not too noticeable when ur riding alone but with a passenger if you don’t upshift smoothly you’ll be bashing helmets every shift lol
Tell your mom I said happy mother's day.
Just kidding, I told her when I left your house last night.
Daddy noob, is that you?
Ayo, where's my child support money then? Lol
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@@jl4091Papa Yam*
She says you weren't supposed to tell anyone :( Also congratulate me papa yams because I just passed the msf course today in your honor :)
I'm so glad I watched this video. I'm a noob. Did my course and got my license but was never taught that you will need to downshift to get through and out and corner.
revmatching and downshifting is one of the nicest sounds tbh
I would call it rev matching.
Well, rev matching is definitely a part of downshifting.
I don’t blip, I rev match. Shifting is as smooth as an automatic transmission.
be in the right gear before entering the turn. practical advice.
The color of that GSXR is indeed great. And practical, yellow is probably the most visible color so other drivers can notice you.
Once I learned this it made everything so much easier my bike no longer hates me and I feel like a pro 😊
Just started riding and downshifting is so satisfying, I love it.
This was such a perfect video for explaining that. Tomorrows commute will be fun indeed 😊
The tricky part isnt the downshift itself its modulating the front brake while rev matching. Took me some time to master heel/toe in a car and this is the same idea
I'm am a driver from Germany, driving an older (2005) Ducati Monster, even after not riding a motorcycle for about 25 years (restarted last year),
Flipping the throttle comes naturally for me, don't know why, it feels like the gearbox feels happier, I even shift down while cornering, but only after a required trail braking. However be sure to relieve your clutch carefully.
I completed a motorcycle safety course before I bought a motorcycle. Here in American specifically in the state I live in, Minnesota, MSF ( Motorcycle Safety Foundation) offers a 3 day beginner course and at the end of the 3rd day you take your motorcycle license test. It also gives me a discount on my insurance. I am a significantly better rider because of that course. The instructors were 50-55 year olds that ride every day. They taught you the correct way and didn’t allow any bad habits to form. What was taught to us was to not change gears up or down while turning due to the potential traction loss. While I occasionally downshift or up shift in a turn I don’t dare do it at higher lean angle or in slippery road conditions
Just started riding and these videos are super helpful!
Even though I'm still saving for a bike, this definitely helped me way more than other videos I've watched. Thank you for this man! Much love from Philippines!
Thank you for making this video, I'm just getting into riding motorcycles and want to be safer than sorry and this video was the answer to what was running in my mind.
I was 20 and on my 4th stick shift car when I bought my first bike, although I had ridden bikes before. In a car you leave rubber on the road when you downshift without rev matching, so you figure it out pretty quickly without hurting yourself. It is hard for me to imagine getting on a bike with no prior clutch/shifting experience. Still, it doesn't seem that complicated. Of course once you are familiar with your bike it should be second nature. If I hopped on a new bike I would be careful while getting the feel of it.
thats how i feel - rev matching seems very advanced to me as a brand new rider, but everyone says its the best way and should be learned early on. its so much going on at once and i can hardly downshift the basic jerky way as it is!
Can you now make a video about proper cornering technique?
I been doing this since day one.. I have a duel clutch car so I use engine breaking often. Kinda just came naturally and I really like it.
The caterpillar segment was phenomenal
Been on two wheels exclusively for the last year and a half, and the thing that I still can't quite nail down is downshifting properly while also applying the front brake. Keeping constant pressure on the lever while also blipping the throttle has proven... difficult. I usually either end up stabbing the front brake if I actually try it, say screw it and downshift while using the rear brake, or say screw it even harder and downshift once I'm stopped if I'm slowing down hard enough that needing the front brake is more important at that moment than downshifting.
@@MotorcycleEnjoyer01 pretty sure that's for cornering. I'm talking about stop lights and signs, where I'm dropping several gears.
@@chaseweeks2708this is exactly what i was wondering..bc for stop lights ive just been braking, clutch, and banging down the through the gears in one go 💀 idk if thats totally wrong? I just got my bike and the msf doesnt really go over any of this
@@JKim-gt2fd yeah, but to be fair, the msf is geared to keep you from dying, not advanced skills
@@chaseweeks2708 this is true. i took the intro and beginner rider course here and we only went to 2nd gear for most of the maneuvers.. so there wasn't much instruction about proper shifting. they basically just taught a few techniques and then said "alright now go ride in traffic" so i dont really know that im doing haha 🫠
@@JKim-gt2fd He mentions something about that @11:22.
I'm usually not riding around in such a hurry that I would even worry about blipping the throttle. Got plenty of time to ease in the clutch.
Just recently started riding and I’ve been practicing my engine braking, this video helped a lot! Thank you!
I downshifted in the middle of a corner the other day. It felt horrible, I though I was done for. Hopefully I was riding slow and didn't loose too much grip. Just had a good scare.
No wonder i was crashing back then...Thankyou for the tutorial. My first crash was downshifting when in the mid corner because it's too fast and i forgot to downshift afraid will crash to pedestrian/someone house so i downshifted in mid corner caused the bike to unstable....
This is a really good and helpfull video, thank you for sharing your expertise on the matter.
how do u rev match and grab the front brake at the same time? I've tried it but i cant do it, i switch between the two
Super helpful for absolute beginner rider. Thanks!
Thanks for all the tutorials yammie 🙏🏽
Ive been dodging those caterpillers for weeks now in E. Texas. Love thst GSX-8R. I have a 2023 GSX-8S!
So why would you want to blip the throttle before pushing down a gear? Doesnt it matter most when you are matching the revs to the new gear you'll be releasing the clutch into? Like couldnt you just hold clutch, go down gear, blip throttle, then release clutch?
then you’d feel a jerk doing that way. You have to do all 3 motion at the same time simultaneously for smooth shifting
I was just asked about this subject. My buddy bought my old DRZ SM and hasn't been riding long.
He wanted to know when I down shift.
I said it all depends. Depends on if I know I'm coming to a complete stop or if the light may change on my approach, or if I'm first in line? All depends.
Also depends on if I'm approaching a corner or roundabout.
Soon I'll take him out for some instructional rides.
Be fun to get the KTM and DRZ on the same roads.
The old Suzuki is a great bike to learn on. Can learn throttle blipping, sliding and give it all the beans without worries.
It's the perfect adult beginner bike.
I do miss the all the flat out antics on the 400.
The 690 is a whole new animal 😈
Now go out and find that unexpected pile of sand on your favorite fast sweeper.😏
You usually don’t get the lurch if you release the clutch slowly on the down shift. Good for engine breaking.
Marvellous this is just what I was looking for thanks 🙂
This video was extremely helpful,
Appreciate this!
I down shift using the brake lever. A lot of people say it can’t be done…… but I get it done 😎
Always gotta blip. Learned rev matching in cars then what i bought a bike it was second nature already. Always sounds dope
If you time it right, you can still blip the throttle during clutchless downshifts. I've been doing this since the early 80's on everything from Guzzi's to Triumph triples and japanese 4's. No problems.
Did just that for four days on a Suzuki GS850G when my clutch cable snapped and carried on working as a courier while waiting for a new one to arrive.
It's all about timing your clutchless upshifts with no load on the engine, so high revs..... cut throttle..... shift up...... all at the same time.
Clutchless downshifting needs you to let the revs drop quite low before kicking down to avoid locking up the rear wheel.
Taking away from standstill without clutch was interesting as you stick in second gear, hold on tight and hit that starter button which just hauls you straight up the road!
Not sure modern bikes with all their electronics would allow that to work as I was on a Honda Varadero 125 which I rode down a small flight of stairs as a short cut (Hey, I it's a courier thing.) but smashed something off the base of the engine which stopped me from engaging first gear. Neutral..... bike fired up..... first gear...... cut out.........back to the mechanic!
Why not just press the break and then downshift when your speed is lower?(not a motorcyclist)
Simply braking without rev-matching could result in abrupt shifts, making the car less stable, especially in high-performance or manual driving situations. Rev-matching keeps everything smooth and balanced, especially under spirited driving conditions.
I kinda do that cuz Im pretty new and can’t DS properly yet. It’s better then getting that lurch forward for sure.
The issue I'm having is what's the best technique to blip throttle *while* holding the front brake. Usually if I'm coasting to a red light I just give up and only rear brake or if I need to stop quick I just clutch out and deal with the gears later. It's not ideal
I do engine braking all the time. I've become addicted to it. I enjoy it. 😅❤
Use your rear brake alongside it. From a car's perspective you suddenly became a lot slower without any brake light.
@@rodrigovaccari7547 Or your front brake depending on what you're doing. You're already causing your bike to slow down by engine braking, if you're using the rear brake and let the clutch out too quick, it can lock up the back.
@@SubvertTheState I mean slightly pressing on it, like 5% brake.
I had to get good at it, bc my brakes suck.
Engine braking is not a skill or a technique it's just something your bike automatically does when you're off the throttle/clutch
Is blipping the same thing as rev matching?
yep
The auto-blip on that platform only kicks in if you’re quick shifting exactly how the bike wants you to; if you aren’t engine braking in the right rev rage or if you touch the clutch, you’re on your own for the downshift. I occasionally use it, but it’s definitely not very versatile.
I just bought a brand new 2024 Suzuki DRZ400S and I believe it has the exact same color. Love the color. Have had many people yell at me hey nice bike. But I've also had many people yell at me ride a wheelie and they do the Willie motion you know which is starting to get kind of annoying LOL I can't ride a wheelie yet. I'm learning but not yet. I can pop a wheelie but I can't ride one because it scares me to death the closer I get to the balance point LOL
it takes time but if yall keep riding it will become muscle memory just keep practicing yall will do great
Does this work on a cruiser as well? Like a Harley, or Honda Shadow etc.?
yes
Thank you
Great video. My takeaway is down shifting before the corner or after I’m through it. The description and demonstration of rev matching was spot on too. Thank you!
Simple. Jam it down three, lock the rear and your bike wags it's tail. If your rear tire skips change compound. Slipper clutch don't matter if you drop enough
If you were walking across a narrow beam over 100ft of water, would you be focused? Absolutely! Motorcycle riding for me is the same. Especially cornering. There’s times when I know I’m starting to ride above my head and this video is a great example. Going into a turn too fast, panic downshift, slight skid, and I ride like a granny the rest of the day. 😂
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cheers from Greece !
I downshift without a blip at about 3-4k RPM, when the bike is clearly lugging. It's comfortable for both of us. Otherwise, it even feels bad if I let off the throttle too abruptly. Feels like braking on a liter V-twin with 11.1:1 compression ratio
Thanks for this video! Its really useful!
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To all the Mama's, baby's Mama's, and baby's mama's Mama's
Great content. I got my first bike and has no tachometer. What’s the best way to tell when to shift? This video will help me with the lurching going down. Going up gears I think I’m doing fine but going down I can’t tell if I’m in the correct gear.
Been riding for decades, I rev match only in higher revs because I have become lazy. I just feather the clutch out when down shifting in lower RPMs.
The reason I have trouble is sometimes your downshifting to slow down, sometimes your downshifting to speed up. When slowing down Its hard for me to blip the throttle accurately while im grabbing the front brake. I end up just letting out the clutch slowly. I'm getting better at rev matching when I'm downshifting to speed up
What do you do if you need to break fast mid turn? Like there’s an obstacle or slow moving vehicle around a blind bend?
Keep calm, roll out the throttle, smoothly apply pressure to the front brake, try to bring the bike upright as much as possible, eyes up and forward, look for a way around the obstacle.
there is a msf drill for that
you are most definitely...a Legend in your own mind!
As a new rider, your channel is invaluable for the real world.
OK, the correct term is intermediate throttle. In the early automobile days this was mandatory because gearboxes weren't synced back then so you had to do that to shift down, otherwise the gearbox wouldn't let you put the gear in. Modern gearboxes are usually synced so you can alsmost always put the gear but there's still a difference between motor / gearbox rpm and wheelspeed which you want to balance as smooth as possilble to get as much control. This is not only true for bikes, it's also helpful when driving a manual transmission car and it is pretty common in car racing for the same reasons > load balancing during braking and keep engine and wheels "close together" for most possilbe performance.
thanks papa yammie i been doing the downshifting correctly for about a year with the first video you uploaded and i love it I TOTALLY FUCKING LOVE IT THE SOUND THE SMOOTHNESS that even the squids just are looking me
with their faces saying :O how he does that?
what is even he doing?
id been doing this in my Suzuki GD115 AX4 evolution
115CC gang here :D
and as you say it try to get the gear before entering the corner!!!!!! that is a fucking W there
thanks papa yammie!!!
So now I have a caterpillar as competition after I finish all my MSF training 😂😂😂
To engage "Loop Mode" just rev and hold it at redline while holding in the clutch, get into a full tuck with one foot still on the ground, make sure its in 1st gear, and immediately and fully release the clutch! To engage "Launch Control" and attain the yeetus maximus, hold the revs at something reasonable while holding the clutch in, make sure its in first gear, and balance the friction zone of your clutch with your throttle as you always do, and try not to burn your clutch out or loop it!
I've just gotten myself a Suzuki SV650S from 99' and I was wondering what I was doing wrong during downshifts. It felt a bit dangerous during corners. I knew I was doing something wrong but I din't have this problem with my old bike, GSX750E 80'. I guess I'll have to practice a bit at this now. Probably a really good idea I din't get that TL1000S afterall.
My 115cc cruizer Revs slow slow that even if a blip the RPM s stays there even after I shifted
Yo literally the first bike i just bought! Same color and everything!
I thought I was I was watching Gsxr Brahs video 😂 Yammie sounds so much like em
16min to explain Rev matching - Only in America (love you Yammy)
Downshifting is not my weakness... I just brought some new riding boots, I was going to get Adventure boots, but found some touring boots that I liked... but I can't move... they are thicker than what I used to wear, and I have trouble getting my boot under the lever to shift up, and when I do and go to shift up again, the boot hasn't let the lever come back down far enough to push it up to the next gear..., It's not my foot, I just can't push the boot low enough for it to release the lever, I'm going to have to adjust the lever to get my boot under it! (but I'll start by taking the rubber pads out of the footpegs)
yammie! love the content. I'm fresh out of the MSF, and just bought my first bike. A cruiser, Honda Shadow. been practicing in empty parking lots but when I'm on the road I'm still struggling (freaking out) with shifting. any pointers for a baby rider?
Use the half rule like in a car. 6th to 5 half way to stop 5th to 4th half way again, and so on. Like you would on a track.
why is that better for the bike than just using clutch dropping gears but not going in gear and slow down with breaks? and if the light goes green again while you are doing it pop the clutch and put gear that matches your speed? its so much less work and you need to mach just once.
Because it wont work if you wanna downshift whilst riding
Its also slow, engine braking is a usefull part of riding a bike fast, corner entry, and general riding.
You are WEARING your brakes out really really fast by doing what you are doing.
@@Surpriseify
better wearing out breaks than engine and clutch
@@Burden82 good revmatching causes less wear on the engine
Its a fact
Also produces negative pressure in your pistons, also good.
Awesome video, earned a like and sub from me. Loved the thorough explanations while keeping it fun to watch
Are we squeezing front brake while blipping or fingers don’t grab brake but hang over- blip then roll back on brake and squeeze?
When i am under rev for a gear... After being upright Do i still need to rev match while downshifting
You could also slow down using the brakes and than downshift without having to blip the throttle, as long as you are going slow enough not to lunge forward. But than you're not using the advantage of engine braking.
I might just be missing the point here, but why do you need to do go through all gears? Is it just to utilise the engine breaking for slowing? I am having hard time seeing why I should do this over breaking and shifting several gears down to match. Thanks.
I was just in Seguin, and those damn caterpillars are everywhere!! 😅
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As a beginner rider I cannot see doing it while braking with my front brake. Engine braking is all good but I'd rather use my front brake to deaccelerate faster in the city traffic and also warn the car behind me with that brake light. How can one blip the throttle while pulling the front brake leaver? 🤯I also try to close the throttle asap when braking and do it also when upshifting.
Wrap your thumb on the underside of the throttle and use a finger or two for the brake.
So is it more important to downshift first then apply front brake or the opposite?
Yammie should lets us see what “rear wheel lock up” looks like if someone made the wrong move … educational video right?
I’m assuming that using the friction point on the clutch instead of rev matching causes increased wear and tear on the clutch? I generally don’t rev too much but I ease of the clutch between gears so I engine brake very slowly. I’m sure it depends on the bike.
What do you advise a beginner biker who goes into a corner with too high of a gear and slows down too much with front and back brakes? The bike negotiates the corner, but it starts to jerk in the middle of the corner due to not having enough speed in high gear. How do you safely downshift in the middle of all that?
This helps a lot, thanks. I do have another question: is it ever OK to just pull the clutch in and come to a stop without downshifting? Like if I'm in 4th coming up to a stop sign, does it damage the bike or something if I only pull the clutch and brakes?
Coasting to a stop with the clutch in shouldn't hurt anything I don't think, although I wouldn't think taking off in 4th again would go too well
TL;DR It's a bad habit. Always stay in gear.
If you cant rev match, just use clutch slip - clutch it, down a gear, slowly release the clutch. Great method if you are new or not confident enough to rev match. Gives you stopping power, you can do it while using the front brake (as no throttle input is needed) and you get the habit of being always in gear.
In your case instead of pulling the clutch in 4th you can try this: while decelaring in 4th, clutch slip to 3rd, then to 2nd gear and pull in the clutch to come to a complete stop. Then find neutral and wait for the green light.
Why is it good to be always in gear?
Well if you think about it if the transmission and engine are not connected to the rear wheel, you basically riding a bycicle, you lose a huge amount of stability and control over the motorcycle.
Stay safe
does it cause any damage to the machine while practicing the downshift?
This was the most helpful video ever, thank you my guy 🫡
what if i downshift without letting off the throttle? it automatically rises the rpm enough while i have pulled the clutch. i have tried it few times but i have never seen anyone do it idk why
Can you give more insights as to why not to downshift mid-corners?
Shifting up or down isn’t a great idea while at a significant lean angle as clutching in takes power away and then shifting and letting out brings power back very fast and can cause you to lose traction and slide out . Downshifting is a lot easier to have a mess up and slide out
Say you're slowly decelerating to a red light. Do you still have to blip when downshifting or is it ok to just let out the clutch if the RPMs aren't that high?
do you need to also give a little back break when doing this?
Do you have to let go of the clutch every down shift when coming to a stop or can you hold the clutch in the entire time while down shifting to first?
So how do you emergency brake/downshift? Do you pull the brake in and downshift? It took me a while to learn to use the clutch on my trike, but I imagine it’s the same on the bike. I’ve always been unsure as how to slow down if I’m doing it the right way. Is it brake-then clutch - then downshift in that order? Please advise! Thanks
With a quick shiftern i think it is ok not to blip the throttle right?
I can go from 2nd to neutral on my scout bobber if I lightly push the shifter down halfway is that normal it's a brand new bike