SANSA IS MARRYING WHO?! | Game of Thrones S5E3 | High Sparrow | REACTION
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- what's up everybody!!! first things first- this episode took forever to post. Part of it is because we're trying to get ahead on Patreon. but the real reason this episode took so long is because IT WAS ABSOLUTELY WILD. I don't even know where to begin.. Tommen married Margery. Gross. Sansa is marrying Ramsey. Digusting. Margery talked hella ish to Cersei. The Sparrows bugged out on some old dude. There's another red witch apparently? and Jorah kidnapped Tyrion. Cannot beleive how crazy this show is getting. super hyped to go edit the next one. I will see you all there :) pce
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I don’t get why are so many people triggered by their character preference 😂 almost all these characters are selfish villains, we just have our own opinions. That’s the best aspect of the show. Let my boy Mike cook
Because he’s completely retarded when it comes to some characters? It’s like he’s not even grasping blatant plot points.
It just doesn't have evidence to back it up. The Tyrells playing the game as best as they can isn't the same as playing the way Cersei has played. The level of evil is no where close.
Regardless of her methods, Margaery is good at heart. Sure, she’s doing everything she can to be queen, but she’s not hurting anyone in the process. Quite the opposite. Her motives are genuine. Literally, every person in this show is fighting for power, in the grand scheme of things, Margaery’s methods are hardly hate worthy LOL.
Agreed. She wanted to give the leftovers from her wedding to Joffrey to the poorest in Kings Landing, and what does Cersei do? Cersei gives it to the dogs instead. I mean, why anyone would choose Cersei over Margaery is beyond me.
@@bereasonable8018 such an excellent point. This should end any debate of which character is actually evil.
Yeah this is why I love her so much, she has the ambition of some of the nastiest characters in the show but she uses it in a harmless way. Even her faking being nice to the poor wasn't that toxic. she is Best Girl.
Margaery is not an evil bitch: just an intelligent woman doing the only thing intelligent women could do to get power in a society like that. She would be a great queen on her own (with her smart grandmother as hand of the queen). She is manipulative, of course, but not in the same way Littlefinger is, and he has just sold Sansa to a psycopath in his journey to the iron throne... just like that.
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Cheers for putting it more eloquently than I ever could, I just couldn't! Big love ❤
Wow. I haven't seen anyone hate Margery the way they do. 🤣
It's almost refreshing in a comical/naive way. Everyone in this show is manipulative and power hungry. She's just really good at it. She might be the kindest of them all when it really comes to it.
Yeah, I'm kinda surprised. She's playing an amazing game...
margaery is probably actually one of the least problematic characters in the entire show, all things considered. the determination to hate her is so entertaining 😭
Agreed. I just don’t understand their determination to hate her. This is the Game of Thrones. The title is about gaining power. She wants to be Queen, Dany wants to be Queen, Sansa once wanted to be Princess (and then future queen). They all wanted more power and wealth
It’s quite comical.
It’s quite comical.
This is a spoiler because you shouldn’t set expectations!
@@bereasonable8018 they don’t hate her they just don’t trust her … not exactly a bad move considering!
the amount of honestly unjustified hatred for margaery is so soooo telling tbh with all the vile shit characters do in this show that's where you draw the line? interesting
imagine saying cersei does anything "humbly" please be so for real
How you hate Margery more than little finger?!?? What woman hurt you that reminds you of her?!? 😂😂😂😂 It shows every episode. The misplaced anger is REAL!!!
Margaery is trying to survive. Y’all too hard on her 😊 Lots of women back in the day married brothers. Y’all didn’t call out Cat she was supposed to marry Ned’s brother but he died so she married Ned. Also in history Henry the 8 married his brothers fiancé after he died. Henry was the second brother like Tommen and Ned.
Naw she's being ambitious. She can go home with Granny at any time. Certified gold digger.
@@cullysloy2705 Being ambitious and a gold digger are 2 different things, she already got Gold,
She want to have more control and power over the kingdom's future and that's not necesserally a bad things especially considering how the kingdom is ruled by now.
@@cullysloy2705 gold digger? She's from the richest family in the realm. Her family is hungry for power and she is their best tool
@@joshhutton9534 exactly!! Cant believe they liked that gold digger comment, the fucking clownery
@@BB-zy5fe they also said she's being ambitious. Like who isn't being ambitious in this show?
The Margery hate is a new take, which I have NEVER seen by any reactor ever. It's ok to be wrong I guess, but the level of wrong here... It's unfathomable! xD
I've only discovered their reactions recently and I've been binging it but I've noticed Mike holds that energy for a fair few women in the show unjustifiably
“Heard theories…she helped kill Ros.”
Who’s y’all’s dealer? The shit y’all conjure up, I swear. 😂😂😂
There is a Reddit page of someone with this theory but there’s no proof. It’s all conjecture.
It’s basically fan fic that someone is trying to pass off as canon.
The Tyrells use the tools that are available to them. Charm is their weapon of choice. Tossing around awful names at a woman who is simply doing what she was raised to do--be the queen--is horribly unfair. She is simply trying to enhance her house status. By the way, her marriages to Renly and Jeoffrey were never consummated.
And yet, every negative criticism Mike laid out about Margaery is the very same hateful criticism that haters make about Sansa. The only difference here is that Margaery has earned most of it, whereas Sansa doesn't even come close.
Margaery is a groomer. Period. That is awful.
One can argue that everyone is trying to do the same. Marry into powerful families, wanting to be king/queen. And yes they are. Baelish is doing that by preying on Sansa too, and that is every bit as horrible as Margaery doing that to Tommen. So why should she not hated for it when Baelish is always being called out on his creepy behaviour?
THANK YOU!! COULDNT HAVE SAID IT BETTER
@@growupanushka Baelish is like 40 and has done way more messed up stuff and has been the shadiest character in the show. Margaery and Tommen are closer in age than many of the people arranged for political gain. Using the term grooming in this situation suggests y’all know nothing about the world they are in. The Baelish argument here is weak.
@@NovaLena22 Sansa was a bitch from the moment we met her. Awful, spoiled little brat who only cared about herself. Becoming a princess meant more to her than her own family meant to her.
I love how wrong they are about almost everything. So fun to watch
I like Aaron’s idea of them going back through their reactions to count how many predictions they got wrong
It would take hours, they are wrong about almost everything. Plus they can't remember character faces from one episode to the next. And there are NO Harry Potter actors in the series to this point.@@bereasonable8018
I don't know what you guys expected from Margaery... To be into Tommen out of love? I mean, it's quite obvious she's in for the power... Is this news? Lmao.
And at the end of the day she's playing for her house like everybody else.
how many marriages in this series or back in the medieval/renaissance time-period GoT is based on had anything to do with love/attraction or affection? Next to none, especially in noble and royal families 😆 these 2 buggin' out always cracks me up
Exactly
Thoros of Myr isn't the revivable eyepatch guy. He's the one who brings eyepatch guy back to life by praying next to his body. Eyepatch is Beric Dondarrion
If Margery and her complicated relationships gross you people out then watching house of the dragon would drive you both to edge lmaoo, still can't wait for you guys to try out house of the dragon🙌
They could never.
Cersei coming to ANYONE “humbly” is hilariously naive 😅 Of course Margery wants to be queen - most in the show are positioning for power - those who can’t use brute strength and numbers have to use other skills. You’re right that Margery doesn’t really care who sits by her side as king, she’ll make it work, but…sounds like maybe you had a crush on some senior girl in high school when you were a freshman and maybe she teased you in the hallways a couple times and bro never let that go 😅 I do fully agree Margery should know better than to poke Cersei but she’s in high spirits at the moment and everything’s coming up roses so to speak 🌹
Yeah, I totally get incel vibes from the weird determination to hate Margery. Of course she's ambitious, as every scion of a noble house is taught to be. But she doesn't plot murder, she donates to the poor, looks after war orphans. Not sure you can say that about ANY of the male characters whom Mike claims he likes. She's no saint, but there's nothing in the writing of the show to suggest she is supposed to be an actual villain.
Having said THAT, Margery calling Cersei an old drunk and a has-been, in the SWEETEST possible way, is one of my favorite scenes from this season.
@Balon Buckley There's plenty in the writing to suggest that she's a villain. That's why she's a great character. I don't think this is a male female thing. There are plenty of women characters Mike loves and plenty of male characters he hates, or even is just critical of.
Margaery is underhanded and manipulative and is grooming a kid, which are also all things these guys hate about Baelish.
Kinda harsh to call him an incel for that, especially when all he's essentially doing is getting hyped for the potential big splashes she's going to make moving forward.
@@quarksbar3265 I've never seen Mike get as worked up about Baelish as he does over Margery, even though Baelish literally started the War of the Five Kings on a whim, because "chaos is a ladder". Comparing Margery to Baelish is crazy.
@Balon Buckley Baelish was used as an example of a character whose traits these two are typically turned off by, not to win a "who's worse" competition. Him and Margaery are similar personality types.
My point was that it was uninformed and shallow to blame not liking a character that you like on misogyny and insecurity, especially when these two gush about Brienne, Arya, Sansa, Dany, ect every episode.
But I bet they'd get more worked up about Littlefinger if they had a million comments telling them to give him a pass because he was nice to some orphans one time.
Your riff on Margaery is off base. Tommen (pronounced Tom-en) married her because he’s king, it wasn’t up to her. Marriages were arranged in GoT, women didn’t have a choice in the matter. And Mormont wanted Jon for his steward, it was his choice to bring Jon in to train him to take over.
She is definitely a better person than Cersei but Margaery def wants to be THE quee. If she told her grandmother she feel in love with so and so back in High Garden I don't see Oleana pulling a Tywin & stating she HAD to marry Tommen. Margaery would just have kids & push the next generation of Tyrells towards the throne instead.
Dowager Queen is just a fancy way of saying she's the wife of a dead king.
She was reminding her that she's not queen anymore. Great moment.
I love that she hints at Cersei being an alcoholic as well. Margaery was on fire.
margaery and tommen’s ages were also changed from the books. they aged him up to around 14-15 I believe and I think she’s supposed to be 18-20.
Please bear in mind, Margaery is supposed to be only 16.
Lol she lied in public about being a virgin and then almost 4 different guys had to find out manually.
@@cullysloy2705 you have literally no way of confirming if a woman is a virgin or not
@@Jackson-jd1um Lol my man. It's called a hymen and yes they can check if it's intact. With their hands. Its in the fucking books. its gross.
@@cullysloy2705 tell me you aren’t serious right now, the hymen can break from literally anything ranging from riding a horse, to swimming, to putting a tampon in, to just literally just masturbating.
The idea that you can tell if a woman is a virgin by feeling it is a misogynistic ideal that simply isn’t true. It comes from the idea that a woman who has had sex has less “value.”
And if you want to say “this is the asoiaf world” then we can do that too. Cersei has Margery inspected because she knows that the hymen can break from literally anything, she even mentions in her internal dialogue that it can break from riding a horse.
I don’t know if you’re just unaware but trust me my guy the hymen can not actually tell whether or not a woman is a virgin
@@cullysloy2705 A woman can be a virgin without having the hymen intact. There are several common activities that can tear it.
"Maybe Ramsay will not treat the women in his life like shit"- bruh, remember the girl being ripped apart by dogs in the woods?
That's just a random person vs someone that might be considered "family" once married. Still a dumb grasp at hope by them though 🤣
Remember, if Jon takes any titles or rewards from Stannis then he would have to do whatever Stannis wants in the future. Jon doesn’t want that.
Why does Margaery wanting to be THE queen trigger him so much, when everyone else who wants the same thing doesn't?
It's fine not to like someone, but it seems a bit much by now, lol.
You say 6months isn’t enough time for her to be moving on is crazy. It’s not like someone she loved or even liked died it was just the person her family promised her to
Being a woman, my perspective is different. I really think Margery is on mission. This was always the plan. It is a job.
I respect and appreciate this comment!!
Lets take a minute to remember Lord Janos Slynt. In seasons 1 and 2 he was the Commander of the City's Watch until he was replaced by Bronn on the command of Tyrion (who was Hand of the King back then) and was sent to the Wall for betraying the previous Hand (Ned). Janos also killed that baby who was King Roberts bastard.
The heavy-set woman you were asking about is Lady Bolton. If you'll recall, Waldr Frey offered Bolton any of his daughter's weight in silver if he married one. So he picked the fattest one so he'd get the most silver.
"Cersei throws little kids off of buildings." -Mike.
Keep that in mind in the upcoming seasons.
Damn the Margery hate is crazyyyyy. Lmaoo probably gonna stop watching for a while cause she’s one of my favorites but it’s so interesting to see how much you like Cersei and give her so much grace. She’s easily one of the worst people on the show and only gets worse after this season. Might be interesting to see how y’all will react to later events tho since it will probably fuel your Cersei sympathy even more.
So was I wrong to always have been team Maergery?
Remember, it's a Game Of Thrones. It's all about getting power for your house and her house is going about it in the best way compared to everyone else.
Why is it so wrong for Margery to play the game by the rules that were written for her? She's doing what the people in charge want. She's securing the throne, actively trying to secure the line of succession, and she is actually trying to change her environment for the positive. Kings Landing has been shit since Rob died and the people have, up until Margery, hated the royalty. She brings back the love of the common people. Otherwise anything else she's done has just been trying to survive. She knows WHO she must butter up, who to placate, and who to ignore. That's just good wisdom in that kind of environment.
Tommen was recast. But since season 4 he is portrayed by Dean-Charles Chapman.
Yes. Didn’t he previously play one of the Lannister cousins who were murdered by Karstark?
@@bereasonable8018 yes
I love listening to you two theorize about the future of the show… some are pretty interesting, others are completely insane lmao
Also don’t think I’ve met people that love Cersei this much😂 apart from some book readers maybe
I love the scene where Brienne tells a story about Renly. This is the moment when i think that i miss this character. He should have been in the show for much longer
I’m glad you said this! He was much more interesting than Stannis, in my opinion. Plus Renly and Margaery would’ve been a powerhouse! They’re both very politically intelligent, have emotional intelligence, AND they would have Brienne and Loras as warriors fighting for them.
@@changingmind2522 exactly. I really like Renly's character. The actor was good too
Bruv chill on Margery. Your going off. Like she's the only character that has done stuff for the common people. Wanted to donate food to the poor. Even was looking out for Sansa back when barely anyone was. Obsession with being the queen yes... but this world is all about power and you know it. The show is literally called game of thrones don't hate on someone for wanting the throne haha . Love your reactions as always
Jon isn't petty, and actually deserves the job of Lord Commander, which is why he didn't use his position to punish or humiliate Thorne (by giving him the latrine job). And he was smart enough to take Stannis' advice and assign Slynt to a different section of the wall. He knew that Slynt and Thorne were allies against him, and by separating these two, they wouldn't be able to act together and plot against him. Also, by promoting Thorne, he showed Thorne and the other men he was willing to work with anyone and treat them with respect - even someone who openly showed antagonism towards him in the past.
And like Jon said, Thorne proved his valor countless times. There is great potential in Thorne.
@@MrKingYuji still a great cunt!
I appreciate how emotional you two get and Aaron; don't ever hold back your tears! Always be true to how you feel, it's refreshing to see men show deep feelings.☺😁😣😢😂😳😂☺
I love watching you guys but i’ve never seen GoT reactors be so wrong or wild in all of their takes before lmao.
The High Sparrow is John Pryce. You probably recognize him as Elizabeth Swan's father in Pirates of the Caribbean.
Or more importantly as Sam Lowry in Brazil 😘
I saw an interview recently where Natalie Dormer (Margaery) said she loved working with him. He’s very talented.
Every time I see that actor now I’m like, oh it’s the High Sparrow 😆
He was nominated for and Oscar for the two Popes
Margaery had NOTHING to do with Ros. And Dany wants to be Queen about as much as Margaery
I’m always in awe of you’re singing, Mike. Seriously!!
I haven’t gotten a GoT tattoo yet, but I definitely plan on getting a Stark-like tattoo. Some of the actors have GoT tats.
Margaery debate incoming:
I’m going to be Margaery’s defense team here: Everyone wants power because power = protection, power = safety, power = opportunity. Anyone in this world would be strange for not wanting that. I think a lot of what you guys don’t like about Margaery comes from what she ‘may’ do or what she could be capable of, that you’re not seeing what she ‘has’ done. Margaery is a person that works to get what she needs (in a heavily patriarchal society that isn’t fair to women, might I add), but also gives a positive outcome to the people she’s using:
For Tommen: getting him away from his mother is honestly a good thing considering his mother is Cersei.
Sansa: trying to get her out of King’s Landing and continuing to console her after that plan fails.
The poor: feeding them whenever the Lannisters, specifically Cersei and Joffrey wanted to starve them.
Even Joffrey: who everyone agrees needed to be manipulated, obviously.
Plus Margaery has every right to be a bitch towards Cersei. She tried to be nice to her and in return, Cersei said “I’ll have you murdered in your sleep.”
Now when it comes to grooming, yes, it’s gross. It’s hard to not look at it from a modern perspective and notice the age gap. But it’s apparently common during these times. Even Littlefinger and Sansa could be seen as normal during these times. I also think Roose’s wife is a lot younger than him. There’s no denying it’s disgusting, but it is important to at least remember that Margaery can have a positive influence on Tommen and grow to care for him (not love him romantically, but love him as an ally, much like Renly, and they’ll take care of each other). Meanwhile the same cannot be said for Littlefinger’s influence on Sansa. He is not a positive influence in the slightest. He doesn’t have care for her, just wants to use her. It doesn’t matter if she gets hurt in the process because it’s still a win for Baelish. Margaery wouldn’t do this because this woman does have a heart. This is the same girl who tried to distract Joffrey so he’d leave Tyrion alone. So I think that’s important to keep in mind. But you can obviously think differently on the matter.
Anyways, I’ve made my point. Most of us commenters will defend this character.
“I heard it’s best to keep your enemies close.”
“Whoever said that didn’t have many enemies.” That’s a FIRE line!!
Jon, go get your sister!!
I’m so glad Arya didn’t get rid of Needle! Good for you, Aaron for holding back the tears with that scene. That’s a difficult one.
That look Sansa gives Lord Bolton is awesome! You can see the flashes of Robb, Catelyn, and her little nephew/niece that never was. The hatred in her eyes is very evident. And then in a moment she composes herself. Fantastic acting.
“The north remembers.” That’s a tattoo idea right there.
“Seems like a good job for a ginger.”
Aaron: 😟
I’m always shocked that Jon actually goes through with the beheading at the end.
I think what’s scary and different about Ramsay vs. Joffrey is that Ramsay does things himself while Joffrey gets his men to do things for him (besides that Ros scene). I don’t think Joffrey would flay anyone alive himself, but rather have people do it for him. Ramsay would do it and that’s kind of terrifying.
I wrote too much, but I really like this episode. See you guys next week.
I absolutely love your viewpoint on Margaery. Amazing take
@@shayleaddison8 thank you :)
The actor that plays Tommen actually played another Lannister boy that the Karstark dude killed that made Rob mad and killed him for it.
Aaron, please don’t listen to those comments about you crying. We love an emotional king!
Also, I agree that Ramsey is worse than Joffrey, because Joffrey mostly had other people do the dirty work for him and Ramsey enjoys doing it himself in a much more brutal way.
Sansa's wedding is the hardest episode for me to watch. I'm so glad you guys are as horrified as I was when learning that's who Baelish matched her with 😭😭😭😭😭 KNOWING how Ramsey is
You guys do realize that Cersei's actions are all about staying in power, right? She wants to stay Queen. Queen Dowager means former queen, mother of current ruler (king/queen) and has much fewer powers. If Margaery has Tommen's baby, it cements Margaery's status as queen. Tommen is king and his word is law, so whomever controls Tommen is the defacto ruler. Your love for Cersei is puzzling. Margaery at least wants to have Tommen's baby. Cersei never wanted another baby with Robert after the first died and only had babies with her brother.
You two are the first people I’ve seen ship Baelish & Margarey so hard.
Re: fan theory of Margery killing Roz... Not sure if I can get on that boat personally, because we see Joffrey walking away from roz's corpse alone.
That, and Margaery would only do that if she saw no way in getting out of it. Considering Margaery has feelings, that would’ve haunted her and we would’ve seen the mental turmoil it would’ve had on her.
Guy sitting in a chair saying " you gotta survive bro " while Podrick Payne makes fire with his bare hands, hilarious 😂
I know there’s a lot of comments about this already lol, but I really do not understand the hate for Margaery.
In the books there is no marriage consummation. Granted they were younger in the books, in the show here, Tommen is 15 and Margaery is around 20-21. Yes it’s disgusting to us, but as you pointed out it’s like medieval times. This was very normal, age gaps were not so big of a problem. However, we do know that Margaery was uncomfortable with this because he’s a child. Keep in mind, Loras (18) is betrothed to Cersei (37) right now. Margaery is doing what all high born ladies are supposed to do: what they’re told. Just like Cersei didn’t have a choice in marriage, Margaery doesn’t either.
Yes, Margaery is ambitious, cunning, and will do and say what she can to benefit herself & people she cares about, but she is not evil or malicious. Margaery and the rest of the Tyrells are some of the only characters who are genuinely good people.
Margaery knows what to do & say to get what she wants/needs, and she can. She is just like Cersei in terms of intelligence & cunning, but she is not evil. She is trying to get pregnant to secure her position. That’s the only way women were really secure in “times like this”.
I understand not liking characters, but the hate for Margaery for no reason still baffles me. Never seen someone make it this far into the series and still not like her lol.
To each their own!!
Marg is playing the game, if the conversation is not with her brother than she is most likely making a play. She’s very strategic, so strategic you can’t tell if she’s good or bad.
Love seeing how excited and amped you guys get watching a new ep ❤
That isn't Grandpa Tyrell. He's Olenna's son, and Margaery, and Loras' father, Mace. The Sparrows also worship the Seven, but they are hard-core fundamentalist.
My personal preference for a tattoo would be: "What do we say to the god of Death? -Not today."
Margaery's goal was to be THE Queen, Cersei's position. She's playing the game, and winning. 8:54 oh, we will hyper her until our last day.
Hehe, remember man. this is Game of Thrones. Margey is playing the game the best she can be and meeting Cersei at every move, because she knows she has Tommen in the palms of her hand, which is the easiest way for any woman to take a momma's boy out of his mother's hands. Ya gotta respect the game she is playing. And I love that scene where Margery is talking to Cersei in front of other ladies, basically lobbing insults at each other but in sweet, coded ways. Its like that one Family Guy cutaway skit "Men: We know how to be friends!" it shows two women complimenting each other but in the process using passive aggressive phrases to just insult the fuck out of each other. Its the game that women play best.
The way Margaery's character is was how women were in (real) history. Situations for marriage like this happened & some women were thirsty for the throne and others weren't. (Also please it's pronounced Tom in, ); Also go on your gut feeling about Ramsay's character. (in the book his character doesn't marry her etc), also the guy who plays the high sparrow was the father of Kira Knightly's character in the pirates of the carribean film and other films.
It is not Moat Cailin, it is Winterfell. Roose Bolton is Lord of Winterfell, and Sansa is “home”
Good comment I noticed They didn't pick up on that fact
I'm shocked y'all don't have more subscribers. I used my mom's computer to add an extra sub. Love you guys.
Margery fucking Tommen is weird and gross but not more weird and gross than basically every character in the show. She’s smart and ambitious genuinly does have the peoples best interest at heart.
It is interesting that this is probably Renly's best moment in the show, when Brienne explains why she was so devoted to him. Renly was killed off early in season 2 and two further season's go by and through a Brienne's memory of meeting Renlyin season 5 we see why she was loyal to him and get significant insight into Renly's character. Perhaps he would have been a good King.
Thoros of Myr is the Red Priest that resurrected Beric Dondarian aka, the guy with the eye patch.
"Bro they're flaying people... why you tryna find the bright side in this"
They’ve told us multiple times in the show that Margaery’s father insists she marries the various kings. She’s playing the hand she was dealt incredibly well and she’s one of the smartest characters in the show. And she’s super hot and she’s not a cruel person.
"Bro, they're flaying people. Why are you trying to find the bright side of this." That's another T-Shirt.
I totally agree with you about Margaery. Why people think she's a force for good is beyond me. You're not more virtuous because you use a different underhanded tactic to manipulate people. Littlefinger uses his cunning, Cersei uses her money and title, Stanis uses his sword, and Margaery uses her sex. They're all equally despicable human beings. If I lived during medieval times I think I'd prefer to be a peasant, and not know where my next meal is coming from, than have to deal with the constant scheming and backstabbing from all directions. King's Landing is like Washington DC. The only one actually there advocating for the good of the people is the unic. Everyone else is there to enrich themselves with money or power.
Margaery is a manipulator but she has never gotten anyone killed at all whilst playing the game. Yes, she’s manipulating Tommen but she’s getting him to send Cersei out of King’s Landing back to Casterly Rock instead of just straight up killing her. And you know how Cersei is. She would be horrible council for her son. So the little queen is doing everyone a favor in a way. Yes, it would be in her favor but Tommen would benefit to by having a good decent counsel around him. Margaery was good counsel for Joffrey when he was alive. She taught him how to be loved by the people and not always feared and even got him popular with them again. Joffrey did agree to giving the leftover food to the poor people in King’s Landing at his wedding feast remember? And that was all because of Margaery’s hold on him.
Queen Margaery is many things but she’s not heartless and cruel at all. She’s done good things for certain people albeit for her own gain. Do remember, she still did spend lots of time with Sansa even after the Tyrell plot to wed her to Loras failed. And that just showed she actually cared for her since there was no more benefit in spending time with her since she was to marry a Lannister and a not a Tyrell. I’ve always believed she has a heart towards certain others.
The girl beating up Arya has no name, but is known as the Waif.
To me...Lord Tyrell looks like the Wizard of Oz😂
Yes! I knew it was Wizard of Oz but never thought about it enough to put together who exactly.
😂💯
Poor Sansa, from Joffrey to Ramsey... that girl has rare luck in the husband department!!
the whole "they're little shits don't listen to them" and you mentioning saying that about the comments was hilarious
Guys lol...lord Tyrell is Loras' and Margaerys' DAD...not grandfather. He's Lady Olenna's son.
it's almost as if they don't really pay attention to anything
You like cersei more than margerey? ???? What?
I do
I do too.
Yo boys! Another reason Jon Snow cutting off Janos Slynt's head is so satisfying to watch is because Janos is one of the mean who betrayed Ned all the way back in season 1. He was the commander of the city watch, who betrayed Ned and butchered his men. Tyrion learned from that, knew not to trust him, and sent him to the wall.
Catelyn Stark (Tully) was originally supposed to marry Ned’s older brother, Brandon. But when he died, she got set up with his younger brother, Ned. (Same thing that’s happening with Margery’s arranged marriage after Joffrey’s death.) Noble houses marry to forge alliances with other houses. They’re still going to try to make that alliance happen, even if one of the betrothed dies. I know it might seem strange, but it’s normal in this world. I do not understand your hate for her, lol! She’s playing the game as smart as she can, as a noble woman in this world.
Margaery's goal is to be "THE QUEEN" she wants to rule, doesn't matter who the king is LOL!
Don’t know the ginger kid’s name but I think is fucking adorable how soft he can be sometimes, in the most endearing possible way. Guys allowing themselves to be emotional is so attractive.
That’s Aaron. He should be protected at all costs.
lool this comment section is hilarious. I do admit im a Margeary fan, and i can see you're not budging on the Margeary hate train. All im gonna say is your right about everyone trying to get into power and sometimes that means its not done in an honorable way. At the end of the day, Margeary hasnt really hurt anyone. She was arranged to marry Tommen, she HAS to marry him, she HAS to get pregnant, she is the Queen. She's nice to Tommen. Tommen is gentle and kind and so she treats him accordingly. She is his wife, .She might not love Tommen (probably no one in an arranged marriage does), but shes very sweet and gentle and kind to Tommen. Cersei is a very hateful woman, dont forget all shes done to Sansa, Ned, Tyrion, Jaime, her cousin Lancel... really shes pretty horrible to everyone, and she basically is one of the reasons Joffrey was so horrible. She is not a good person whatsoever, and Margeary knows that, everyone knows that. The Tyrells need to get Cersei away from Tommen, its the smartest play. And honestly, Margeary's tactic to have Tommen side with her is probably the healthiest and nicest strategy.
I got chills when the old woman said " The North Remembers"
I know it's game of thrones, but sometimes you guys are reading WAAAY to much into things 😂
Yeah the speculating and predicting is wild and it’s hilarious when they get proven wrong immediately.
Welcome back Boyz.
You Boyz made a lot of predictions this episode. A few were dead on, most per usual were far fetched. Very entertaining as always. Just keep them coming. We all made predictions in our head, most were wrong too. The good thing about you Boyz, is that you pause & spit it out.
The Tyrell guy that you think is funny is Margery's dad, not grandfather. Most people made that mistake. Orlenna mentioned her son, just one time, so if you missed the dialog, where she said it, you made that mistake like the rest of us.
& Boyz don't worry about the Margery hate coming your way. Most these comments are armed with hindsight, watching the show over & over again. I would have loved to see at this point, w/o any books or watching the show for the first time, episode by episode, on how advanced their advise in the comments, would of been when they were in your shoes. You have a right to your doubts of her at this point. If they said any different than you, they're lying. You've got to love these Monday Morning QBs, they're all wizards of wisdom, WAY AFTER THE FACT.
The show is great, best show ever, but you've got to go through some tough comments from people who try to manipulate you. There was nothing but love when the few dozen original reactors were reacting to the episodes as they first aired. No Monday Morning QBs, because we were all pretty clueless as to what would come next for the most part. Which is why we loved the show so much.
I’m with Steve on this🙌
Henry VIII married his brothers queen (Catherine of aragon) after his brothers death, and was happy with her for 24 years, but he later used it as the reason to divorce her and marry Anne boleyn. He even changed the religion of England because the pope refused his divorce request, xx xx
The High Sparrow is Governor Swann from Pirates of Caribbean, Elizabeth's dad. And yes Mace Tyrell is the most hilarious character of GoT.
In terms of the Margaery stuff, i mean theyve made it pretty clear all of the marriages are just political, and the tyrell/lanister alliance would fall apart because the tyrells were promised to be made into royalty in some way. So yeah its quick but she never liked any of them anyway, it was all just politicall. All the way back to Renly even. She says she wants to be THE queen, and the only way to do it in game of thrones as a woman is to marry into it. Or to have dragons. Also why is it ok for Cersei to want to be queen when she fucked her brother, helped try to kill Bran, had Sansa's wolf killed, lied to her husband for years about his kids not actually being his, fucked over Tyrion when he did nothing wrong, is just generally making the world a worse place etc. etc.. All Margaery ever did was fuck a few people to get a bit of power which she isn't really using for anything bad anyway
Yeah it makes no sense. Cerise is legitimately evil. Margaery is all around a good person. I don’t get it.
I mean, no one is denying Margery is plotting and has high goals. But that could be said for 99% of the characters, and at the end of the day she is helping the poor and trying to be a good queen. While of course you're free to your own opinions, I don't get all the hate on Margery and not on literally all other characters...
Margeary is SUCH a Bond villain lol I love it.
It's funny that you mention Slughorn cause the actor is actually in GoT, just no yet (not really a spoiler saying which actor plays in the show, even if you haven't met him). The High Sparrow isn't in Harry Potter, but in Pirates of the Caribbean, he's the father of Elizabeth.
I love how everything you say about Margaery is basically Cersei’s lines in her POV chapters😂
Funnily enough, in the books Tommen and Margaery never consummate the marriage, because he is younger there. It simply never happens, so its kinda a show thing only. Fanservice. meh.
You guys haven't still realized that these marriages are 100% for the power of the ruling houses. Lannisters need the Tyrels for their wealth, Tyrels get power, so its a win win thing for both sides. Marriages happen for this reason. Its only natural for Maergery to want to manipulate that further, to solidify power in King's landing. Its the smart thing to do. Nothing more nothing less.
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Great reaction to this episode guys. Loved it. So much more to come you will lose your minds over. Good and bad. Every episode going forward is more intense. I wish you'd do a couple episodes a week 😜
Joffrey is a sadist, but he's also a coward, which is why he almost always had someone else do the torturing for him. Ramsey is a sociopath and a sadist, which is why he can blend in with normal people--that's what they do, since they don't truly have the natural ability to do it on their own, they mimic what they see and act how they think they're supposed to act based on the situation. He enjoys letting the mask fall away and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty and do his own torturing, killing and blood-letting.
Also, the tattoo conversation you had, great idea 💡 👍🏽 I think you should let whatever family, house, character or saying that resonates the most with you and that you identify with the most, and make your decision from there. As someone with 14 tattoos (a couple being a good size/fairly large) and counting, I always think it's worth a good long conversation with yourself to make sure what you get is really what you want, since it'll be there forever.
Great reaction as always, I enjoy watching you guys discuss your various theories on characters and what you think is happening or will happen next (although I will admit, as someone who already has seen the show in its entirely, I also enjoy seeing you be so wrong and far off with some of your ideas lol, kinda like people who knew what was coming at the end of season 3 and said "oh you sweet summer child 😉 ") I'm loving ❤️ guys and your reactions, and I love how you're not afraid to be emotional and show how certain things make you feel. Thank you for being so good at what you do.💗
Think back to the conversations Margaery had with Littlefinger "My husband is my king and my king is my husband." and with Renley "We need to get your baby in my belly" She said it herself "I don't want to be Queen. I want to be THE Queen."
I think rust is a more important factor to consider than a fish ruining the sword mate lol
With the Red God, comes a prophecy. Mel thinks Stannis is The prince that was promised bc its said that the Prince of Dragonstone was Azhor Ahai reborn. Stannis was a Baratheon Prince on Dragonstone. Dragonstone traditionally passed to the Crown Prince or heir to the Throne, during the Targaryen Reign. So who is Crown Prince of Dragonstone.
I found your hate for Margaery bizar. This show is called Game of Thrones. She is playing the game to get the throne like everybody else in this show. But Margaery actually has a good heart.
You guys are definitely being too hard on Margaery. IRL Queen Catherine of Aragon queen of England married king Henry the 8 after his older brother died cause she originally married him. In this story Catelyn Stark was engaged to Ned’s older brother Brandon & after the mad king killed him she married Ned. Margaery is playing the game to be queen but in this world as was in ours marriages are political & marrying the younger brother/sister after your intended dies is common to hold up alliances.
"Are you fucking kiding me, Game of Thrones???" 😂🤣🤣 Me every single time...
geez the margaery rant was..interesting lmao. and she doesn't even crack the top 10 of my fave characters and even i think y'all doing a lot. 😭
Y’all on some wild shit with the Margaery hate. She’s literally the least problematic character of this show…. 😅
Johnathan Pryce, who plays the High Sparrow, has never been in H.P., but, among other films, he was in Pirates of the Caribbean as the Governor.
There are a bunch of actors in both GoT and HP but yeah Jonathan Pryce isn’t one of them. One that most people miss is that Pycelle is the voice of Aragog.
@@phoenixfox2697 Julian Glover, Pycelle, was also in ‘Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade” as Walter Donovan and in Star Wars V, VI as General Veers.
Janos slynt getting beheaded is one of my favorite chapters in the book. And it goes down even better in the books. First jon says hang him from the top of the wall. Then Jon says this is wrong and Janos thinks hes off the hook. Jon remembers what his father taught him. He who passes the sentence should swing the sword. Jon also does it partly as revenge for Janos betraying Ned causing him to get beheaded. Awesome moment
After 5 seasons, they haven’t gotten over being sweet summer children 😂😂😂