Watch This Before Painting Your Motorcycle! Gas Resistance Test
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2020
- This video is for those who want to paint their motorcycle tank. I test and discuss common clear coats to see what is best to protect your paint. The results are surprising!
this is actually a fantastic test for those of us thinking of spraying a tank on a budget. Thanks for this!!!!!
Important to note that the engine clear coat needs to be heated for it to actually be resistant.
Finally someone spoke about the major drawback of pray cans. Almost all i have used till date are reactant to Gas. Dupli-Color did splendid, unfortunately Dupli-colors are not available in my country.
Thank you for this! Incredibly helpful
This helped me so much. Great video!
This is perfect! Thank you!
Thanks for making this.
Thanks man very helpful
Great video thank you for sharing!
Great job! Thanks for doing this test so we don’t have to. I also found the Rustoleum clear coat over-promised and under-delivered. The engine finish fail was unexpected. Also, check fuel-cock gaskets, as I’ve had weeping between layers from what appeared to be a good seal and wasn’t, causing blistering. This on a factory painted tank that was impervious elsewhere. Dupli-Color it is then! I still like a clear-coat over decals, so will probably look at one of the 2K finishes.
Great test! I'm very curious to how the Spraymax 2k holds up.
Thanks !
Great! Thank you!
I wish I had seen it before painting my tank....
Lol. Don't feel bad bud. Guess why I did the testing....
I found out the hard way and did the test to find the best way to fix it.
Thank you
Thanks mate
Thanks helpfull
Good video man, thanks for making this.
Thanks
Sir thank u so much. More power to u
You are welcome. It was a fun and informative project.
Thank you for the video - question for you - eye purchased paint from NAPA (actual paint mixed by them and put in an aerosol can-not cheap). Though it has clear already in it - I feel better knowing it’s clear coated…. Your thoughts? I purchased the 2k clear but haven’t used it yet.
Although many commented they love 2k, I did not have a good experience. The nozzle is awful and spit chunks of clear coat boogers all over my tank. Using 2k caused me to have to strip my tank and start over.
What is in the can is good stuff. Getting it out of the can in a good and consistent spray can be difficult.
Strange I've used Spraymax 2K gloss clear numerous times on motorcycle tins and always got wonderful results and many compliments. Did you follow the directions?
Of course I followed the directions. However, directions don't matter when they ship out a can with a nozzle that does not work properly. For the price they charge they should use a better nozzle. The can I got did not spray well at all. It spit goobers and globs instead of a consistent spray pattern.
I was surprised that the perfect match held up, I know from experience vht caliper paint isnt fuel resistant and I cured it behind my woodstove for a few days, 2k clear isn't fuel resistant as well unless you rinse the fuel off immediately with water, dupli color engine enamel is pretty good paint or rustoleum in the silver can. krylon is ok as well
Thanks for watching. I was also surprised at the result. My tank still looks great and it has held up to a few spills.
I've used 2x clear Rust-Oleum spray on car radio trim. Interior car heat makes it sticky and dust ruins it. ( Nothing to do with gasoline) just saying( 2nd can in video)
Good stuff. I heard you say you had to redo your tank after the first go due to fuel damage. Can you say what steps you took to prep the tank for the re-do and what clear did you end up using, if any?
First, I removed the tank and took off the cap. I used aircraft paint remover and a green scrubby pad to remove all of the existing paint. Then primed with filler/sandable automotive primer by Rustoleum. I then used Duplicolor automotive paint from the auto parts store. No clear coat as it seemed to be weaker and destroy the acrylic lacquer. It turned out beautiful. And yeah, I have spilled a little gas on it (unavoidable sometimes) and it caused no damaged. I just let the gas dry on it and wiped it up with surface cleaner when I got home.
@@dinstaar Thanks much!
@@Achilles3588 Have fun Larry!
@@dinstaar Oy. I used a none-of-the-above brands for painting my tank. The base coat was a great match and applied easily. The clear coat went on well, too. Unfortunately, although the vendor sold the 'kit' as one meant for motorbike fuel tanks, I didn't read the fine print. Oddly, the vendor's site stated that the included clear-coat was not fuel resistant, and that an alternate product offering should be used. I missed that, and on one of the first fill-ups, baptized my tank and ruined the clear-coat. Now I'm considering re-clearing using one of the 2K products not reviewed here. I know there is a risk that applying with one type over top of another is somewhat risky, but I'm willing to do that else it's back to square one as you did. Thoughts and prayers are appreciated ;-).
@@Achilles3588 I opted for square one because on a tank, it is not that much more work. I changed the color while I was at it. Good luck, let me know how it turns out. Be careful if you are mixing lacquers and enamels.
I was surprised that krylon seemed to be completely fuel proof after curing for a few weeks. Other than that I found only 2 part paints, clear coats, and non aerosol oil base enamel in the can are completely fuel proof when dried. Takes about 7 days for most to completely cure. I'm going to test the aerosol rustoleum acrylic clear coat in the next couple of days, but I suspect it won't be fuel proof. I've always wondered if polyurethane is fuel proof, I want to test that eventually too.
Poly is, but there is a problem with it. It yellows over time when exposed to direct sunlight.
Since this experiment I have tried duplicolor engine gloss clear with amazing results! This is my new go to.
Did u lightly sand/scuff, degrease the test strips before painting? When the paint wiped off of that one piece, it looked smooth? Just checking, thanks for the info!
Yes. I did all the prep as you should.
Rustoleum's "Stops Rust" series is the one that's fuel resistant. They have a clear coat for that purpose.
What is the clear coat for that purpose? Also stops rust?
@@guccimane5752 "Stops Rust" is a series of cans from Rustoleum. They have some sort of ingredient that causes it to be very solvent resistant. I personally use the spray to resist against Methanol which is very corrosive.
What type of application do the professionals use and recommend. Lots of how to rattle can your tank and make it shiny but hardly any follow ups on resistance to fuel spills and UV protection. Also, different types of filler necks, flush, raised. Is their a technique to seal the paint as it transitions to the filler neck to provide additional protection of keeping the gas from penetrating underneath the paint. You didn't mention how long you let the test pieces cure before you did the test. Anyway, thanks for the tutorial.
The cans stated a week to cure and I waited 1 week.
For follow up, my tank still looks great despite a couple of minor gas mishaps.
Thanks for watching!
Minwax polyurethane is also gas resistant and can be buffed out like regular automotive acrylic clear
I have heard of this being used. From what rumors I have picked up it works great for awhile but is not very UV resistant. A couple of automotive companies have tried a product similar in the past, that is why in sunny areas you see the clearcoat damaged by the sun.
It would be a great long term experiment to conduct.
Ya know, I still think that even if there are a few problems with the 2K clear, Idd rather know Im getting a hard poly finish, I can wet sand and respray or buff out any nibs. Especially using a good base coat that requires a clear. the Vid is spot on as far as my own experience with clears.I used standard Duplicolor clear over the red metalcast. it was beautiful,,, until I filled my tank.
I will never use 2k again. The can spit globs of boogers all over my tank that I could not take off. I had to strip it all off and start from scratch. It was absolute garbage. 2k might be a great product, but if the nozzle on the can cannot apply it then it is worthless. Every other nozzle, even the cheapest brands, did better.
@@dinstaar Well I have 2 cans of it for a job I am doing. I hope it works as most the other vids I have seen. Who knows, maybe you had a bad batch . It happens, even with 2 part kits. I will be documenting the process on the job on my channel, but I will be sure to chime in here. IF they muck it up then Ill be honest and say well that was twice. :) and then just have to shoot it with my guns.
You gotta shake that spray max real good or put it in warm water
The color you tested looks Honda red too me!!
I only use K2 clear. You must have got bad can. All of mine have been perfect.
This Dupli color is a red color + Lacquer
Or its only Lacquer
Or its only just color?????
The can states it is lacquer. The formula of it's exact contents is not on the can. The product is Duplicolor Perfect Match and it is an acrylic lacquer. Here is a link to their product:
www.duplicolor.com/product/perfect-match-premium-automotive-paint/
SprayMax 2K is fantastic. No idea how it failed you. Warm the can in water to help it atomize, works like a charm. 2K chemically hardens, not air dry, can't beat it for durability.
Yeah, I kept reading that. What I ended up with was what looked like chunks of rock hard snot on my beautiful paint job I worked hard on. That 2k is serious stuff, so it was impossible to sand it down and make it look good. I had to strip it all off and start from scratch.
He also doesn't use the Spraymax 2K clear... it's regular rustoleum 2x coverage not *2K*
He apparently used SprayMax that had been activated, and it ruined his paint. This normally is not the case, 2K clear is the only real choice. All these 1K clears will fail against caustic substances like gas, brake fluid, or any volitile fluids.
Did you let the duplicolor engine enamel cure for 30 days?
No. The can said 7 days so I waited 7 days. I researched forums on this paint and found there was an agreed cure time of 7 days.
One thing that I thought of later was heat. Engine enamel is meant to withstand heat over and over again, something that does not happen on a motorcycle tank. Heating the paint a few times may aid in hardening it. So this paint may be good on engines, but not for a motorcycle tank.
Thanks for watching.
@@dinstaar thank you
How many costs if rustoleum did you spray and how long did you let it sit for before pouring gas on them?
I coat automotive primer, 2 coats of paint. I let it cure for 7 days.
@@dinstaar thanks. I just did my bike entirely in rustoleum 2x coverage, primer paint and clear hoping the clear holds up for awhile
@@Scooter705 Good luck. It may do better after waiting longer before you spill gas all over it.
@@dinstaar hoping so lol I’m letting it sit as long as possible. I do my road test in 2.5 weeks. I just finished the main paint job today. Wet sand and top in 48 hours sit for a couple days and then it’ll sit on the bike. For about a week or so
@@Scooter705hey man how it holding up
Rustoleum advanced formula works good too
Good to know. How is the color selection?
@@dinstaar really good, before covid my local Walmart had just about any color you could want in it. except desert tan lol, that's why found your video. I'm looking for a desert tan that can hold up to gas to do my bike and put ammo cans on the back.
@@fordman7479 oh, good luck. One of the reasons ai chose Duplicor to test was because of the wide variety of colors available. I hope you can find one that suits your needs. Thanks for watching!
2k clear coat works great
My experience was garbage. The product may be good but the nozzle spit chunks all over my tank and ruined it. I had to strip it all back down and start from scratch.
For $20 a can, they should put a nozzle that is reliable. If what is in the can is great, it doesn't matter if you cannot spray it in a consistent manner.
If you have had better luck, that's great. I wish I had your luck.
James, you mentioned you had a bad experience with the spray functionality of the can, but is the 2 K clear gas resistant? I'm about to do my tank and fenders.
I have read that it is. My experience with it was not good at all. It came out of the nozzle like chucks of snot leaving gobs of clear I attempted to save but ended up stripping off and redoing the whole thing. It is also expensive, I paid about $25 for the frustration.
I can tell you I will not use it again. Some people have had better luck but I am not going to spend $25 on a can of clear that performs so poorly I have to redo it. It was the worse performing spray can I ever used and I paid the most amount of money on it. I can not stress enough how god awful the results were.
@@dinstaar thanks James appreciate your reply.
Any 2K Clear (2 pack) is resistant to even thinners. It’s the professional standard for clear and would be the only option I would have thought for a fuel tank
Spray packs have issues all the time. I’m sure it was bad luck
2k spray max clear with hardener is the best
I did not have that experience at all. Their nozzle sucks!!! For $20 a can they should be embarrassed. The last time I used it, it spit heavy goobers all over my tank and I had to strip it, and redo the entire gas tank on my motorcycle. The product inside may be the best ever, but if they cannot deliver a good constant spray it doesn't matter. It is sad that cheap brands have a better nozzle.
Doesn't DupliColor make an acrylic lacquer in clear?
Yes and it doesn't hold up to gas. Stupid right? I have used duplicolor, sprayed their clear on it, and gas ruins it.
@@dinstaar Hmmm.
@@chrispile3878 Yeah, I don't know what is different in the formulation but my first paint job on my tank the Duplicolor acrylic lacquer is what I used. When gat hit it, it was ruined. I think the issue is that the color match is fuel resistant and the clear coat is not.
Duplicolor clear is CRAP. Never use it anywhere near gas.
The sun will chip away at the paint without the clear coat.
🤔Well guess I have to remove Rust-Oleum again. Did good till I test it with gas. Peel right off like lacquer thinner. Perfect Match is the way.
Yep. Rust-Oleum just can't hold up.
how about 2k (2 part ) clear coat? its supposed to be a lot more durable than regular clear
I have heard great things about that. A lot of people swear by it. However, it is about $20 a bottle. I tried it once but got a can with a bad spray tip. It spit chunks of goo all over my paint. I was very displeased.
In all fairness the duplicolor dries completely in minutes
The rustoleum will need a full day or 2 for it to cure.
I let the enamel sit for a week.
The first one you tested is because its arylic lacquer based which is gas resistant edit dont ever use vht engine paint thank me now not latter its splatter paint pretty much
Not to sound rude but if you educated yourself or even read the directions, 2k clear tends to orange peel just as any clear does. A quick wet sand between coats and proper prep does wonders....as well as reading directions or mabye watching a UA-cam video?😂
I am fully aware, why do you think I am not educated on it or didn't read the directions? Big assumption by you and wrong. My nozzle was bad and it came shooting out like snot. It was coming in gobs the size of boogers. Orange peel would have been expected and easy to deal with. For $20 a can, they should put a better nozzle on it.
2k still the best
I tried it. The nozzle was garbage and spit boogers of clear all over my paint. I had to strip it all off and redo it.
For the price they charge, they can afford a better delivery via a higher quality nozzle. The product itself may be great, but if you cannot reliably spray it on your paint with good quality it isn't worth a damn. I have ruined a paint job by trying 2k and won't do it again.
That's not 2k that is 2x completely different 2k has a activator 2x is just normal clear coat just covers 2x surface area
What I said I used 2k before with bad results so I was not using it on this test. This test was for regular common stuff you can find anywhere.
Yes, 2k is different. I had awful results because the nozzle on my can was defective causing it to spit instead of spray. It was awful, the result looked like someone sneezed all over my tank.
@@dinstaar sorry to hear about your bad experience with Spraymax 2K. Were you aware that the applicator has a built-in spray pattern adjuster? Perhaps the adjuster was not in the optimum position? This would cause the tip to clog and spit boogers onto your work.
The best applicator I've ever used on a spray can, and the 2K product is second to none.
It's worth trying again... I get amazing results with it.
@@mick8018 I attempted to adjust it and it sprayed ok for a matter of about 10 seconds. Then it was shooting snot rockets all over ruining all my work. I was pretty unhappy.
You would think for $20 a can they could invest in something better. I could tell the spray nozzle was designed to do something that it just wasn't doing. Duplicolor has never failed me, their spray pattern is always perfect.
It’s a good test to do but realistically who let’s gas sit on there tank or paint for 5 minutes plus🤷♂️
Josh, pretty much everyone. If you spill on your tank at a gas station what are your options to clean it up? You know they are always out of paper towels. Even if they had them, are you going to just rub the gas in? Where can you get soap, water, and a rag on the fly to take care of it in less than 5 minutes?
@@dinstaar I keep all that in my bags so, yeah I keep it all with me
@@joshrivers5870 Well Josh, we both you you are in a major minority by doing this. At least you can rub that gas into your paint while it is nice and fresh that way. Lol.
the globbs on the clear was clearly " sry :d " because you did not heat up the can pre spraying .. as in place it in warm water .. not boiling but close to it .. untill the can is nice and hot .. ergo higher preasure in the can = better spray pattern .. and to the point .. WHO ON EARTH spills this ammount on their gastank .. oh and let it sit soaked for 5 mins .. any self respecting person would place a hand/rag under the nozzle when pulling it away from the tank . its just that simple :-s
Yeah, like every gas station stocks the paper towels like they should, and every biker carries a gassy rag in their pocket. Lol.
If you tell me you never spilled gas on your tank with no way to wipe it off immediately, you're just plain not telling the truth.
Thanks for the heads up with the 2k clear though. Maybe I'll try it again if I ever need to do more painting by heating it first. The duplicolor has held up great though and it has been a couple years now. Minor spills have been no problem and it still looks great.
Why would anyone rattle can their gas tank??
2k only it’s not that expensive. It’s more durable and scratch resistant.
Rattle can paint is all garbage.
My tank looks great and I get compliments on my bikes custom color frequently.
Believe it or not, some people enjoy working on their bikes themselves as opposed to paying someone else to do it. A rattle can paint job done right can look amazing. It does take patience and practice to learn to do it well.
As for 2k, I have read good things. However, my personal experience has been less than stellar. Their nozzle is awful and it blew booger like chucks all over. It was not even at all. My point is directed more at quality than cost. A $20 that sprays like garbage is awful. They should be embarrassed when Duplicolor is cheaper and out performs at less than $10.
@@dinstaar you can buy 2k aerosol paint and do it yourself. It’s actually easier to spray than rattle can. It levels better and dries much quicker.
@@tthams73 Why? My bike is done and looks amazing. No thanks on buying equipment and a painting booth just to paint my motorcycle. The option I took worked out well.
The most stupid test I've ever seen. Of course all your clear coats will be destroyed by gas because You're using 1K clears, that are not chemical resistant, and they dissolve when you add any solvent(like gas).
To achieve chemical resistant coating you have to use 2K clear coats, and only 2K.
The most stupid comment I have ever read. Especially since the Duplicolor engine clear coat is marketed as fuel resistant. Duplicolor itself claims to be fuel proof. This test shows what using an off the shelf clear coat does to the paint in the likely event you spill fuel on it. Many people would also like to know how fuel resistant Duplicolor paint is alone.
2k is not available like other paints at the stores either so many don't use it. Also, testing 2k would be ignorant because everyone already knows the outcome.