1. The thought of losing 5 individual dollar bills, one by one, throughout one day, and realizing AS you lose each one is oddly funny 2. I think doing the dishes as they get used could actually be thought of as a series of individual gains that you're spreading out, because you get to feel good each time you do the dishes rather than just the one time that you do them all at once 3. I like the idea of doing a good job on the "closing shift" so that you have a good "morning shift". I think something I've realized is that I'm not doing something "corporate" by caring about/ taking joy from goals/ productivity/ efficiency/ achievement. Those things are scientifically beneficial/ enjoyable to human beings, and they are also useful to companies, so companies have made those things loom large in the workplace, but that doesn't mean that those things are inherently bad. You are using corporate terminology to describe something that isn't inherently corporate because the language used to describe the concept is most commonly corporate language. That doesn't make it a bad concept, but you might feel better about it if you used different language. I think you may just be defaulting to that language because that language is common, so it makes more sense to you when you use it.
I give myself 10 minutes on the timer and do the task I don’t like (like dishes). I also try to see I value a clean house and how it makes me feel way more than the discomfort of doing the cleaning.
This was a great video Katherine, sometimes we struggle to do things, and procrastinate on them. The loosing the $5 individual 5 bills analogy is a good one, because it's about a series of unfortunate things happening, and how you react to small things that won't matter as much the next day. Doing dishes is a good mental exercise to keep you going.
i had a really similar conversation about dishes with my therapist last week!! we ended up with a different strategy: not doing the dishes because i have to please an imaginary roommate, but because i want to please myself, bc a pile of dishes can make a bad day even worse, yk? this is going pretty well this week, hope i can make it work, and hope it’ll go well for you too!! ✨ manifesting no depression sinks for anyone in our beautiful community 💞✨✨
You are capturing the chaos that is life and the ART of living alone perfectly in this video. Im only in the middle but its been a while since I have enjoyed a personal Video like this. This is so relatable and its awesome you make so much fun of yourself. I have been doing that as well. It seems so crazy, but if crazy feels good and does no harm to anyone, where is the issue? I especially liked the part where you talked about if having dirty dishes feels nice, then thats OKAY. It's not easy being this open with thousands of people, but thats probably why it is so inspiring. Thanks.
re: closing thought - is the “closing shift” conundrum the difference between a home economy outside if capitalist extraction vs. how we view work and labor in our economy as we know it u know what i mean
One time in a previous video you said that if something takes less than 2 minutes to do, you try to just do it. After you said that, I fully implemented that into my life and it has been the best. I do dishes immediately after using them because if it’s just one bowl and a fork, then that definitely takes less than 2 minutes.
On the romanticizing labor note, I would say go romanticize it! It’s your kitchen, it’s your restaurant! It’s your creations that are nourishing you and what could be more romantic than that? Idk I’ve just realized food is so fun if you let it be
For me doing dishes is usually one of those "if it takes less than 2 minutes, just do it now" things. At this point I generally don't even think about it. And if I'm cooking a lot, like for meal prep, I wash as I go and also treat the clean-up as part of the cooking process. And if it does so happen that a few things pile up during the day, I just wash it before I go to bed. It's part of my evening routine and I like knowing that I will have a clean kitchen when I get up.
Becaaaaaauuuse when you separate your losses a LOT then none of them are losses any more because it's barely an inconvenience to wash a mug, you just forget you even washed it immediately
I love how Paige Wassel is all of my fav youtuber's favorite UA-camr lol. You, Laini Ozark...I'm sure there are more. Something in Paige just inspires admiration and fan behavior and I am also not immune lolll
in the most complimentary way possible you remind me of the great chris fleming, known best for his work "company's coming" but recently released a special on peacock streaming service (?) and occasionally posts outstanding content featuring a shag hair cut of similar caliber
thank you so much for the whiteboard idea! I wrote down 5 daily goals so I’m going to try to tackle at least three of them per day. also the roommate scenario is genius - my room is ALWAYS messy so I’m hoping to get into the habit of cleaning a little bit each day for my imaginary roommate
Maybe the bad things to batch isn't the dish doing, it is the dirty dish seeing. You mentioned that seeing the dishes unwashed every day is a drain. So by doing them daily you're spreading out the good things (seeing a clean sink). Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas.
i watched someone on the closing shift at a train station coffee kiosk and the effort he was putting in made me wonder if he was opening in the morning. i type. from my sofa. dirty dishes on the coffee table and tissues on the floor. that said i think it’s relatable because work/ employment is a way we relate in society right now. maybe we are more respectful to our colleagues than our room mates?
I definitely struggle with dishes because I live alone and dont prioritize them. But I have tried this year to focus on giving myself the last 5 to 10 mins before bed to tidy SOMETHING if I haven't already cleaned or tidied earlier in the day. Does it happen every time? No. But we're up to "more days than not" status.
i feel u on the depression sink which is soooo why i live alone now haha. i love the opening and closing shift mentality, but lets be real, i'm definitely calling in sick
I am Blown Away by anyone who has the capacity to wash up their dishes each night after dinner. I cannot. I defs save them up. I will put leftovers away and like the dishes not to be blocking the sink but on the side but thats defs all can manage. Living the non dishwasher life for the past 2 years after 6 years With dishwasher and I am So excited for those dishwasher days to come back :-P
I think doing dishes is a gain, not a loss? Because afterwards you're like "yay the sink is clean" not "oh no I lost a bunch of money what happened?" I don't know though, it depends on your own personal mentality about them.
As someone whose usually had a roommate I hardly ever leave dishes in the sink/drying rack. If I were to live by myself I’d be curious to see my future habits compared to my current habits. I really like the idea of treating your self as your roommate. Gonna pocket that strat for later 👀
Great video. I like the chaotic quality of your thoughts. The realness is refreshing. 9:02 was particularly interesting because even Bill Gates has said that AI will reach a critical mass of acceptance when a good AI assistant is developed. Everyone wants a super assistant that can do everything for them, so that they can just veg all day. AI will be your best friend and then everyone can silo themselves in a private bubble with their AI assistant and never have to talk to another human being again. The only problem is that there will be no work and no jobs for most people, and thus no money. Then you can't afford a subscription for your AI assistant, or a connection to the internet. Then we will all live on the street and be addicted to a drug called tranq. Then we eventually overdose and die. This world isn't as sexy as "The Matrix," but its far more likely.
I'm gonna go with that first option -- 12:55. Because yeah, that's a thing that needs to happen, in general. Meanwhile, I had an actual housemate (we'll call him Fred, just to have a name) for a while who had a couple of non-actual housemates: Past Fred, and Future Fred. (And of course, he could also be thought of as Present Fred.) So... he would do things as a kindness for Future Fred sometimes -- e.g. preparing food and putting it in the fridge as a ready-to-grab-and-eat thing when he knew that Future Fred was going to have difficulty making food. And then when Future Fred became Present Fred, and he'd grab and eat that food, he would express sincere gratitude to Past Fred for having done that kindness. It was kind of amusing to watch... but... definitely seemed to work for him! So, maybe that's a way to think about this? Though I do also kinda like the opening/closing shift notion (14:15 notwithstanding). Not sure that would work for me personally, for reasons, but I could totally imagine it working well for some. Oh, and regarding the clumping losses and spreading out wins thing... that's neat to know about! I do kinda feel like the labor of doing dishes might possibly be a bit different than the "loss" thing in such research, and thus have other dynamics too? But... anyway, it's interesting, and I'll definitely have to ponder that and/or research it more... at least think about ways to make that knowledge (which I think I'd knows something similar to, but not exactly that) practically useful for myself. And, uhh, if you want an accountability buddy, and you also want to point me at a live-feed of your kitchen, I could maybe check it now and then and drop a message when it looks like it needs work. 🤣
Kat, have you thought about trying body doubling platform like Focusmate? You choose a task and a partner chooses their own task and you work on it for 25, 50 or 75 minutes. It helps keeping me accountable
SO sorry, but RoboRoommate sounds like a dystopian monster because you just know the company would start advertising "organizational" products or new dishes or whatever within the actual experience of using the service 🙃
i recommend you skim “how to keep house while drowning” by kc davis! biggest takeaway for me is that mindset can reframe cleaning chores as compassionate acts of self care (but not in a cheesy way)… also, my consultant / business student brain also likes to apply the 80/20 principle: what 20% of chores can i do to make the place feel 80% cleaner or make myself 80% less stressed. helps me prioritize and not get as overwhelmed when i think about EVERYTHING i should do at the moment
Normalize a full sink! Neither my husband nor I have depression, but even when the rest of our apartment is clean, our sink is often full. What, are we supposed to run the dishwasher every day?? No way. Let the dishes pile up until we absolutely have to run it - that's efficiency, baby.🤌
you are so entertaining im so glad i can be ur virtual(?) bff thru being ur subscriber LMAO you're also making that AI thing a come true by putting out content hehe i guess just gotta make a pleasing male version to make that money
I think the opening and closing metaphor is not bad necessarily. It is possible to become overly anti-work IMO. I respect people who are really effective at their jobs, and especially if they are also compassionate and helpful. Sometimes I feel capitalism and socialism are set up as a dichotomy when we can strive for the virtues of both individual efficiency and supportive community.
this series is so beautifully reassuring and comfortingly human 💛
I like the intro sequence.
1. The thought of losing 5 individual dollar bills, one by one, throughout one day, and realizing AS you lose each one is oddly funny
2. I think doing the dishes as they get used could actually be thought of as a series of individual gains that you're spreading out, because you get to feel good each time you do the dishes rather than just the one time that you do them all at once
3. I like the idea of doing a good job on the "closing shift" so that you have a good "morning shift". I think something I've realized is that I'm not doing something "corporate" by caring about/ taking joy from goals/ productivity/ efficiency/ achievement. Those things are scientifically beneficial/ enjoyable to human beings, and they are also useful to companies, so companies have made those things loom large in the workplace, but that doesn't mean that those things are inherently bad. You are using corporate terminology to describe something that isn't inherently corporate because the language used to describe the concept is most commonly corporate language. That doesn't make it a bad concept, but you might feel better about it if you used different language. I think you may just be defaulting to that language because that language is common, so it makes more sense to you when you use it.
depression sink treatment silent film montage was absolutely delightful
Me watching this video while doing the dishes and finishing them right as the video ended 👁️👄👁️ synchronicity??
oh BIGTIME
I give myself 10 minutes on the timer and do the task I don’t like (like dishes). I also try to see I value a clean house and how it makes me feel way more than the discomfort of doing the cleaning.
This was a great video Katherine, sometimes we struggle to do things, and procrastinate on them.
The loosing the $5 individual 5 bills analogy is a good one, because it's about a series of unfortunate things happening, and how you react to small things that won't matter as much the next day.
Doing dishes is a good mental exercise to keep you going.
Now I can say that I've watched all of the videos of the oversharing in seattle playlist!! Did I love all of them? Of course I did!
i had a really similar conversation about dishes with my therapist last week!! we ended up with a different strategy: not doing the dishes because i have to please an imaginary roommate, but because i want to please myself, bc a pile of dishes can make a bad day even worse, yk? this is going pretty well this week, hope i can make it work, and hope it’ll go well for you too!! ✨ manifesting no depression sinks for anyone in our beautiful community 💞✨✨
I so enjoy your oversharing in Seattle - it's comforting and chaotic, like life.
i also have been obsessed with the closing shift analogy but hadn’t really thought about the labour implications behind it and now i’m- 💀💀
the sink editing section is 10/10!! SOOO good!
You are capturing the chaos that is life and the ART of living alone perfectly in this video. Im only in the middle but its been a while since I have enjoyed a personal Video like this. This is so relatable and its awesome you make so much fun of yourself. I have been doing that as well. It seems so crazy, but if crazy feels good and does no harm to anyone, where is the issue? I especially liked the part where you talked about if having dirty dishes feels nice, then thats OKAY. It's not easy being this open with thousands of people, but thats probably why it is so inspiring. Thanks.
There’s too much I want to reply to, it’s like asking myself, what’s your favorite part of the song, and I’m just: yes (all of it)
Your brain soothes me
re: closing thought - is the “closing shift” conundrum the difference between a home economy outside if capitalist extraction vs. how we view work and labor in our economy as we know it u know what i mean
One time in a previous video you said that if something takes less than 2 minutes to do, you try to just do it. After you said that, I fully implemented that into my life and it has been the best. I do dishes immediately after using them because if it’s just one bowl and a fork, then that definitely takes less than 2 minutes.
omg.... i love when influencing does some good
You're so real, please keep posting I love you !
i will keep on posting for u and me both 🫡
On the romanticizing labor note, I would say go romanticize it! It’s your kitchen, it’s your restaurant! It’s your creations that are nourishing you and what could be more romantic than that? Idk I’ve just realized food is so fun if you let it be
loving this series!! Love the authenticy and vulnerability you express on a weekly basis!
thank U mimi
For me doing dishes is usually one of those "if it takes less than 2 minutes, just do it now" things. At this point I generally don't even think about it. And if I'm cooking a lot, like for meal prep, I wash as I go and also treat the clean-up as part of the cooking process. And if it does so happen that a few things pile up during the day, I just wash it before I go to bed. It's part of my evening routine and I like knowing that I will have a clean kitchen when I get up.
God damn this was RELATABLE
Lol the part where she celebrates that she washed the dishes lol 😂
Becaaaaaauuuse when you separate your losses a LOT then none of them are losses any more because it's barely an inconvenience to wash a mug, you just forget you even washed it immediately
The dishes montage thooooo 👌
I love how Paige Wassel is all of my fav youtuber's favorite UA-camr lol. You, Laini Ozark...I'm sure there are more. Something in Paige just inspires admiration and fan behavior and I am also not immune lolll
she has a star quality about her and we're mutuals on tiktok now so i'm praying on our friendship
in the most complimentary way possible you remind me of the great chris fleming, known best for his work "company's coming" but recently released a special on peacock streaming service (?) and occasionally posts outstanding content featuring a shag hair cut of similar caliber
thank you so much for the whiteboard idea! I wrote down 5 daily goals so I’m going to try to tackle at least three of them per day. also the roommate scenario is genius - my room is ALWAYS messy so I’m hoping to get into the habit of cleaning a little bit each day for my imaginary roommate
Maybe the bad things to batch isn't the dish doing, it is the dirty dish seeing. You mentioned that seeing the dishes unwashed every day is a drain. So by doing them daily you're spreading out the good things (seeing a clean sink). Thanks for sharing your thoughts and ideas.
i watched someone on the closing shift at a train station coffee kiosk and the effort he was putting in made me wonder if he was opening in the morning. i type. from my sofa. dirty dishes on the coffee table and tissues on the floor.
that said i think it’s relatable because work/ employment is a way we relate in society right now. maybe we are more respectful to our colleagues than our room mates?
Have you washed the dishes and picked up the tissues yet? I'm asking this as your shift manager 😜
@@sallywashington3691 LMAOOOOOO
I definitely struggle with dishes because I live alone and dont prioritize them. But I have tried this year to focus on giving myself the last 5 to 10 mins before bed to tidy SOMETHING if I haven't already cleaned or tidied earlier in the day. Does it happen every time? No. But we're up to "more days than not" status.
i feel u on the depression sink which is soooo why i live alone now haha. i love the opening and closing shift mentality, but lets be real, i'm definitely calling in sick
The surveillance technology and accountability robot sounds like some black mirror shit its scaring me 💀
You are too funny! too real! keep doing you i love it all
I am Blown Away by anyone who has the capacity to wash up their dishes each night after dinner. I cannot. I defs save them up. I will put leftovers away and like the dishes not to be blocking the sink but on the side but thats defs all can manage. Living the non dishwasher life for the past 2 years after 6 years With dishwasher and I am So excited for those dishwasher days to come back :-P
I think doing dishes is a gain, not a loss? Because afterwards you're like "yay the sink is clean" not "oh no I lost a bunch of money what happened?" I don't know though, it depends on your own personal mentality about them.
It’s a loss of time
OKKKKK REFRAME
This was too relatable I’m glad I found u thru annemaries podcast 🫶🏽😌
As someone whose usually had a roommate I hardly ever leave dishes in the sink/drying rack. If I were to live by myself I’d be curious to see my future habits compared to my current habits. I really like the idea of treating your self as your roommate. Gonna pocket that strat for later 👀
🎶take it easy🎶, I'd help with your dishes
I would 100% get my dishes done for Paige Wassel
Lions wish they could afford a sink that big.
Great video. I like the chaotic quality of your thoughts. The realness is refreshing. 9:02 was particularly interesting because even Bill Gates has said that AI will reach a critical mass of acceptance when a good AI assistant is developed. Everyone wants a super assistant that can do everything for them, so that they can just veg all day. AI will be your best friend and then everyone can silo themselves in a private bubble with their AI assistant and never have to talk to another human being again. The only problem is that there will be no work and no jobs for most people, and thus no money. Then you can't afford a subscription for your AI assistant, or a connection to the internet. Then we will all live on the street and be addicted to a drug called tranq. Then we eventually overdose and die. This world isn't as sexy as "The Matrix," but its far more likely.
hairing in seattle!
LOTS of hairing was performed in this video
Maybe you could try to focus on the dopamine hit an empty sink can give you. Then maybe it would act like the $1 bills?
real
embarrassed to say i time-lapse myself cleaning to make sure i actually do it
I'm gonna go with that first option -- 12:55. Because yeah, that's a thing that needs to happen, in general.
Meanwhile, I had an actual housemate (we'll call him Fred, just to have a name) for a while who had a couple of non-actual housemates: Past Fred, and Future Fred. (And of course, he could also be thought of as Present Fred.) So... he would do things as a kindness for Future Fred sometimes -- e.g. preparing food and putting it in the fridge as a ready-to-grab-and-eat thing when he knew that Future Fred was going to have difficulty making food. And then when Future Fred became Present Fred, and he'd grab and eat that food, he would express sincere gratitude to Past Fred for having done that kindness. It was kind of amusing to watch... but... definitely seemed to work for him! So, maybe that's a way to think about this? Though I do also kinda like the opening/closing shift notion (14:15 notwithstanding). Not sure that would work for me personally, for reasons, but I could totally imagine it working well for some.
Oh, and regarding the clumping losses and spreading out wins thing... that's neat to know about! I do kinda feel like the labor of doing dishes might possibly be a bit different than the "loss" thing in such research, and thus have other dynamics too? But... anyway, it's interesting, and I'll definitely have to ponder that and/or research it more... at least think about ways to make that knowledge (which I think I'd knows something similar to, but not exactly that) practically useful for myself.
And, uhh, if you want an accountability buddy, and you also want to point me at a live-feed of your kitchen, I could maybe check it now and then and drop a message when it looks like it needs work. 🤣
I feel so guilty for having a Masters degree in biology knowing I've literally forgotten 95% of what I should have learned.
But the friends you made along the way...
If ya ever need a friend, lmk. I’m new to Seattle and am 23 and still trying to figure out things myself
Kat, have you thought about trying body doubling platform like Focusmate? You choose a task and a partner chooses their own task and you work on it for 25, 50 or 75 minutes. It helps keeping me accountable
i am toying with the idea of starting a clean sink club group chat where we just send photos of our bare sinks every night to each other
Anyone else watching this video while doing the dishes?
Yes hello, how do I find the take out of this month leave in the month Google form?
What to do for a weekend in Seattle?
SO sorry, but RoboRoommate sounds like a dystopian monster because you just know the company would start advertising "organizational" products or new dishes or whatever within the actual experience of using the service 🙃
LMAOOOOO you’re so right. expanding the spoof even further…
Wait... so ur telling me monke man was a bit this whole time 😭
HAHAHHAHA that actually wasn’t even the bit i was talking about
dude just get a dishwasher
technology? that makes life easier? never!!!!
happy caveat hour 🫡
i recommend you skim “how to keep house while drowning” by kc davis! biggest takeaway for me is that mindset can reframe cleaning chores as compassionate acts of self care (but not in a cheesy way)… also, my consultant / business student brain also likes to apply the 80/20 principle: what 20% of chores can i do to make the place feel 80% cleaner or make myself 80% less stressed. helps me prioritize and not get as overwhelmed when i think about EVERYTHING i should do at the moment
Normalize a full sink! Neither my husband nor I have depression, but even when the rest of our apartment is clean, our sink is often full. What, are we supposed to run the dishwasher every day?? No way. Let the dishes pile up until we absolutely have to run it - that's efficiency, baby.🤌
you are so entertaining im so glad i can be ur virtual(?) bff thru being ur subscriber LMAO you're also making that AI thing a come true by putting out content hehe i guess just gotta make a pleasing male version to make that money
I can relate to this . I got a roommate lately and I’ve been a lot better about leaving dishes in the sink! Maybe we’re not meant to live alone.
we really are not!
I think the opening and closing metaphor is not bad necessarily. It is possible to become overly anti-work IMO. I respect people who are really effective at their jobs, and especially if they are also compassionate and helpful. Sometimes I feel capitalism and socialism are set up as a dichotomy when we can strive for the virtues of both individual efficiency and supportive community.