Couple of little things: In one order you can only hack once. it's usually move/idle + hack. You exit camouflage when you roll for dodge(or make any dice rolls. Surprise attack -3 only works in active turn. Template weapons (chain rifles, shotguns, mines)you don't get +3 to your save from cover. Sorry about picking at the little details! :D
The table looks gorgeous! Glad to see you boys playing again. N5 is right around the corner, keep at it! I'm sure other people by now have clarified all the other rules errors (there's always some infinity. No one has a perfect game), but I'll update this post if I see any that aren't pointed out. While we are still on N4.. @ 9:25 - you can't start touching objectives. You can be 1mm away, but you must always move to get to an objective initially. @ 9:56 - place deployable is the skill used to place mines. Mines, of nearly all types, deploy as S2 camo markers (-3). They can be placed in ARO, if LOS is present. In the active, they may be placed in b2b contact at any point of that units movement. The minelayer skill does allow the unit to have a mine starting in ZOC, also as a camo marker, the mine must also observe the same restrictions when being placed, i.e. can't exceed deployment zone unless the unit that placed it can also. However, the number of deployables (as they are disposable 3 usually) is open information, and you an usually spot the placement of a mine that way during deployment, assuming the unit that placed the mine is also visible. @ 10:47 - the LT order can be used by units with the NCO special skill. This allows them to use the LT order, declaring so, even though they are not the LT. This can be used to activate fireteams. The Daiyokai has NCO. I think the confusion may be coming from you guys placing a CodeOne mission, but using the full ruleset of infinity? @ 20:04 - an interesting attack. you could have declared inituitive attack while in the smoke - passing a wip check to do b1 shotgun template. however, the kuroshi rider is okay in CC, could have also moved through the smoke, and touched a single enemy units base, while in the smoke, and done CC, so only that model gets to fight, the rest can dodge if they wish. she could have also moved to the edge of the smoke and touched that console, as she is a forward observer. just my 2c. @ 24:34 / 34:50 - when units in hidden deployment 'arrive' and move onto the field, they do so as camo marker states (if they posses one) - the only way you can ACTIVELY drop the camo state is to declare something that causes you roll - dodge, shoot, discover, etc. @ 26:17 / 32:45 - suppressive fire is only ever b3, with it's own range profile. @ 28:35 - any time a camo marker (unit) is makes a roll, in this case aro dodge, even if it fails, the camo state is lost. dodge with camo in aro is usually bad because of this. @ 29:15 - you cannot double hack (Activate console), as it is an attack short skill. You cannot hack and shoot, because both are attack short skills. Download the 'comlog' app for android/iphone, it's a great app that tells you every mission ever, the details of such, and how consoles etc are activated and by whom. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.comlog @ 29:52 - yes, you can discover shoot, as discover is a movement skill, shoot being attack. In the event the camo unit shoots back, there is no need to make the discover roll, as attacking cancels the marker state. @ 30:17- it would always be -9bs to shoot at the oniwaban in cover, with mimetism-6, giving -9. being revealed does not change is mimetism value. oniwaban should have dodged into b2b contact, or at least using the shotgun in shoot mode, causing a f2f roll. they are a hard unit to master, very flimsy, but devastating if they can get into b2b. @ 35:23 - saito, in jsa (he is in other armies too) is NOT a specialist, and thus could not press the button on the console. in every other faction, he is a specialist troop, except in jsa. n4 garbage lol. @ 37:48 - remember that you can use command tokens (you get 4 per game base) to convert irregular orderss to regular. thus, you might have been able to press up a little more at the end of the game, affecting quadrants. It's 1 command token per irregular converted. @ 39:03 - impetuous is a negative cost to unit profiles in the point matrix - so that's what makes units with it cheaper. @ 39:25 - correct, you only oberve the rules of the impetuous order while using it. while using regular orders you are free to move as you like. while impetuous you may NEVER claim cover though. @ 39:35 - aww shucks. you're welcome guys. I'm just happy to have more infinity content to watch! JSA! N5! couldn't be happier right now. Also again, GORGEOUS board. @ 42:20 - it can be very hard to take quadrants. tips: units with baggage (usually bots) count as +20pts in zones, and units that hidden deploy, or air borne deployment are great for turn 3 shennigans taking zones - as they are usually chonky points, and readily available. For everything else, there is smoke, cautious movements, and big guns as entry methods. @ 42:53 - O-12 and Combined army - the lady jumping is either a speculo killer or more likely sheskin. you can use the website human sphere human-sphere.com/ for profiles and lore, and they even have identification pages for all current and past minis; human-sphere.com/Identification_Sheets - make it easy to see the entire range, and units names @ 43:18 - the resurrection faction is Aleph, specifically the Steel Phalanx. Not quite lancelot, but greek heroes. You did WAY better with the rules this time guys. Don't sweat it, ya'll are clearly new. No one EVER has a perfect game of infinity. it's complicated enough that people forget things, or mix rules up. Cannot wait for n5 content from you guys. There are a few big rule changes coming, and no rule book this time, so make sure you scour those pdf's when CB puts them up. Gg!
42:00 Units with the Minelayer skill can deploy with one of their mines already on the table. Unlike normal Deploy Mine, which places the mine in base contact, mines laid with Minelayer can be anywhere within 8", as long as they are placed where the minelayer model can legally deployed, and they can't have any enemy troopers or markers in their trigger area.
Cannot afford at the moment to play this game but it’s definitely worth the price of admission. The models look amazing and the rules seem so cool! Love the way yall cover so many games so well!!
Well the rules will be free so I'd suggest jumping in and proxying with whatever 25 mm base models you have! The rules are free and the gameplay is really really great. I played more games of Infinity than all my other wargames put together in a 5th the time because its fun.
I'm super excited to dive into this game! It looks like an absolute blast! Huge thanks for the battle report, everyone! I can't wait to see what else you have in store!
Strange vampire lady = Speculo killer in Shasvastii and Vaniilla Combined Army. Super scary assassin. CA also have some units with a skill called 'Protheion' which really are like vampires - deal wounds in close combat and you gain that many wounds! And if you like undead, check out Ariadna, who have units who are just like werewolves (with chain rifles). And the UN Police are O12, and their sectorials Starmarda and Torchlight. They are newer forces, and all the sculpts are excellent, as well as being a good generalist / starter faction.
You guys learned a ton from the first game, way to go! Remember to be in cover as much as possible! +3 to save and -3 to hit makes a huge difference! And yeah, Cenobites are freaking great. Don't be afraid to get the ninjas into close combat - Saito could have murdered the Custodier eeeeasy.
Hack Console is defined in the scenario rules as Short Skill - Attack. So you can't do it twice in a single order as it can only be combined with a Short Movement Skill.
The faction with recreated heroes is Steel Phalanx, a sectorial (subfaction) of Aleph. They're not genetically recreated but just modelled after the myths. There's also the occasional such hero in other factions either gifted or ran away.
I hope you enjoyed playing Star Wars Legion with me that one time, Luka, because if you keep doing Infinity batreps I'm going to make the drive down to Welland again.
40:14 First is Objective Points, and then if that's tied, VP. VP is points killed. At least, according to ITS. However, you're not playing an ITS mission. I highly recommend downloading the ITS mission pack. Some great missions which really explore the narrative aspect of Infinity.
26:53 Impetous troopers can never benefit from partial cover. It looks like in N5 they're de-nesting that as "No cover" because you are definitely not the first person to forget that.
6:24 Keeping your lists open might actually be helpful when you start out playing Infinity, so you can help remember each others rules. If you don't like using hidden stuff in the future, don't worry, there are quite a few LT's in the game that are kind of there for being open and get you something in return (Check the army maker for the skill "Strategos")
You mention missing rules. I just want to say, as a veteran Infinity player - don't sweat it. I think it's good to demonstrate that playing a game and having fun is the first and most important part of this hobby. You can always learn more rules as you go.
Awesome table, but you should start geting used to secrets, is half of the game. Camos, thermal camouflage, surpise parachutes... and mainly protect your liutenent my men.
This during Infinity week is wonderful timing. Also, glad to see more in Infinity anywhere. Adding: with the Saito Model you definitely needed a Paramedic, “I need healing.”
Weird Vampire lady thing is Combined Army, specifically Speculo. That faction also has troops with Protheion skill, which is basically vampirism - you eat enemy wounds in Close Combat and gain more wounds for yourself. Example unit: Caliban. They also have a piece of equipment called Sepsitor (and Sepsitor Plus), which allows you to take control of enemy models. :)
Abandoned city terrain looks great Really like seeing Infinity on this channel! Don't get bogged down when all the comments are about rules you may have gotten wrong--we all do it but the point of the game is to simulate sweet Sci Fi combat and have fun
@RyanDattilio I don't think it'll bog them down. They're learning, and the comments help. The infinity community always gets rules wrong (including in tournaments haha), so unlike a lot of other games, rules comments are usually positive assistance.
@@SkaredCast I don't even play Infinity but was happy to watch you guys play this together. You both made it very enjoyable despite having to try desperately to learn the rules on the go 😅
Couple of little things: In one order you can only hack once. it's usually move/idle + hack. You exit camouflage when you roll for dodge(or make any dice rolls. Surprise attack -3 only works in active turn. Template weapons (chain rifles, shotguns, mines)you don't get +3 to your save from cover. Sorry about picking at the little details! :D
Those aren't little details, they're core to the rules.
The table looks gorgeous! Glad to see you boys playing again. N5 is right around the corner, keep at it!
I'm sure other people by now have clarified all the other rules errors (there's always some infinity. No one has a perfect game), but I'll update this post if I see any that aren't pointed out. While we are still on N4..
@ 9:25 - you can't start touching objectives. You can be 1mm away, but you must always move to get to an objective initially.
@ 9:56 - place deployable is the skill used to place mines. Mines, of nearly all types, deploy as S2 camo markers (-3). They can be placed in ARO, if LOS is present. In the active, they may be placed in b2b contact at any point of that units movement. The minelayer skill does allow the unit to have a mine starting in ZOC, also as a camo marker, the mine must also observe the same restrictions when being placed, i.e. can't exceed deployment zone unless the unit that placed it can also. However, the number of deployables (as they are disposable 3 usually) is open information, and you an usually spot the placement of a mine that way during deployment, assuming the unit that placed the mine is also visible.
@ 10:47 - the LT order can be used by units with the NCO special skill. This allows them to use the LT order, declaring so, even though they are not the LT. This can be used to activate fireteams. The Daiyokai has NCO. I think the confusion may be coming from you guys placing a CodeOne mission, but using the full ruleset of infinity?
@ 20:04 - an interesting attack. you could have declared inituitive attack while in the smoke - passing a wip check to do b1 shotgun template. however, the kuroshi rider is okay in CC, could have also moved through the smoke, and touched a single enemy units base, while in the smoke, and done CC, so only that model gets to fight, the rest can dodge if they wish. she could have also moved to the edge of the smoke and touched that console, as she is a forward observer. just my 2c.
@ 24:34 / 34:50 - when units in hidden deployment 'arrive' and move onto the field, they do so as camo marker states (if they posses one) - the only way you can ACTIVELY drop the camo state is to declare something that causes you roll - dodge, shoot, discover, etc.
@ 26:17 / 32:45 - suppressive fire is only ever b3, with it's own range profile.
@ 28:35 - any time a camo marker (unit) is makes a roll, in this case aro dodge, even if it fails, the camo state is lost. dodge with camo in aro is usually bad because of this.
@ 29:15 - you cannot double hack (Activate console), as it is an attack short skill. You cannot hack and shoot, because both are attack short skills. Download the 'comlog' app for android/iphone, it's a great app that tells you every mission ever, the details of such, and how consoles etc are activated and by whom. play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.comlog
@ 29:52 - yes, you can discover shoot, as discover is a movement skill, shoot being attack. In the event the camo unit shoots back, there is no need to make the discover roll, as attacking cancels the marker state.
@ 30:17- it would always be -9bs to shoot at the oniwaban in cover, with mimetism-6, giving -9. being revealed does not change is mimetism value. oniwaban should have dodged into b2b contact, or at least using the shotgun in shoot mode, causing a f2f roll. they are a hard unit to master, very flimsy, but devastating if they can get into b2b.
@ 35:23 - saito, in jsa (he is in other armies too) is NOT a specialist, and thus could not press the button on the console. in every other faction, he is a specialist troop, except in jsa. n4 garbage lol.
@ 37:48 - remember that you can use command tokens (you get 4 per game base) to convert irregular orderss to regular. thus, you might have been able to press up a little more at the end of the game, affecting quadrants. It's 1 command token per irregular converted.
@ 39:03 - impetuous is a negative cost to unit profiles in the point matrix - so that's what makes units with it cheaper.
@ 39:25 - correct, you only oberve the rules of the impetuous order while using it. while using regular orders you are free to move as you like. while impetuous you may NEVER claim cover though.
@ 39:35 - aww shucks. you're welcome guys. I'm just happy to have more infinity content to watch! JSA! N5! couldn't be happier right now. Also again, GORGEOUS board.
@ 42:20 - it can be very hard to take quadrants. tips: units with baggage (usually bots) count as +20pts in zones, and units that hidden deploy, or air borne deployment are great for turn 3 shennigans taking zones - as they are usually chonky points, and readily available. For everything else, there is smoke, cautious movements, and big guns as entry methods.
@ 42:53 - O-12 and Combined army - the lady jumping is either a speculo killer or more likely sheskin. you can use the website human sphere human-sphere.com/ for profiles and lore, and they even have identification pages for all current and past minis; human-sphere.com/Identification_Sheets - make it easy to see the entire range, and units names
@ 43:18 - the resurrection faction is Aleph, specifically the Steel Phalanx. Not quite lancelot, but greek heroes.
You did WAY better with the rules this time guys. Don't sweat it, ya'll are clearly new. No one EVER has a perfect game of infinity. it's complicated enough that people forget things, or mix rules up. Cannot wait for n5 content from you guys. There are a few big rule changes coming, and no rule book this time, so make sure you scour those pdf's when CB puts them up. Gg!
Best Infinity table I have seen on youtube. This is a great game. Congratulations
So happy to see more Infinity! The board is absolutely gorgeous I'm in awe
That is one gorgeous board!!
Beautiful board, I thought I knew what I wanted my game board to look like, but now I'm having second thoughts
Nice battle reports! Gotta love Infinity, the game deserves a lot of recognition!
I love this table! Infinity Tables always look so much better than 40K.
42:00 Units with the Minelayer skill can deploy with one of their mines already on the table. Unlike normal Deploy Mine, which places the mine in base contact, mines laid with Minelayer can be anywhere within 8", as long as they are placed where the minelayer model can legally deployed, and they can't have any enemy troopers or markers in their trigger area.
Cannot afford at the moment to play this game but it’s definitely worth the price of admission. The models look amazing and the rules seem so cool! Love the way yall cover so many games so well!!
Well the rules will be free so I'd suggest jumping in and proxying with whatever 25 mm base models you have! The rules are free and the gameplay is really really great. I played more games of Infinity than all my other wargames put together in a 5th the time because its fun.
Awesome stuff, good to see Infinity being played and keen to see more into N5.
Love it! Keep it coming N5!
I'm super excited to dive into this game! It looks like an absolute blast! Huge thanks for the battle report, everyone! I can't wait to see what else you have in store!
Strange vampire lady = Speculo killer in Shasvastii and Vaniilla Combined Army. Super scary assassin. CA also have some units with a skill called 'Protheion' which really are like vampires - deal wounds in close combat and you gain that many wounds! And if you like undead, check out Ariadna, who have units who are just like werewolves (with chain rifles). And the UN Police are O12, and their sectorials Starmarda and Torchlight. They are newer forces, and all the sculpts are excellent, as well as being a good generalist / starter faction.
You guys learned a ton from the first game, way to go!
Remember to be in cover as much as possible! +3 to save and -3 to hit makes a huge difference!
And yeah, Cenobites are freaking great. Don't be afraid to get the ninjas into close combat - Saito could have murdered the Custodier eeeeasy.
happy to see more infinity stuff... laughing every time I hear strength instead of damage for the saves
That's a boss looking table
42:57 0-12 is the Infinity UN. They're neat because they have a lot of less-lethal options.
43:11 I'm just goofin' now, but that's Combined Army. It's a Shasvastii, I think specifically Victor Messer.
thumbs up for more infinity content, lets show those britts that there are more tabletops out there
What a gorgeous table, wow!
Hack Console is defined in the scenario rules as Short Skill - Attack. So you can't do it twice in a single order as it can only be combined with a Short Movement Skill.
Just finding out you are in welland!?! Wish i could stop by and film an episode!!!
Weird vampire lady thing - Speculo Killer in Combined Army and Shasvastii. They're an extremely effective assassin unit with cellular regeneration.
Infinity? Heck yeah.
The faction with recreated heroes is Steel Phalanx, a sectorial (subfaction) of Aleph. They're not genetically recreated but just modelled after the myths. There's also the occasional such hero in other factions either gifted or ran away.
I kinda love that the AI that runs humanity is a nerd making its own historical fanfic insert characters.
I hope you enjoyed playing Star Wars Legion with me that one time, Luka, because if you keep doing Infinity batreps I'm going to make the drive down to Welland again.
40:14 First is Objective Points, and then if that's tied, VP. VP is points killed. At least, according to ITS. However, you're not playing an ITS mission. I highly recommend downloading the ITS mission pack. Some great missions which really explore the narrative aspect of Infinity.
Hell yeah more Infinity with Skari, let's gooooo!
I’m so pumped to be learning this game .
26:53 Impetous troopers can never benefit from partial cover. It looks like in N5 they're de-nesting that as "No cover" because you are definitely not the first person to forget that.
A 17 on the roll off…well done!
Great table! Beautiful work
Please feed your old world community i haven't seen a single video this month (made the subscription for old world content) ❤
6:24 Keeping your lists open might actually be helpful when you start out playing Infinity, so you can help remember each others rules.
If you don't like using hidden stuff in the future, don't worry, there are quite a few LT's in the game that are kind of there for being open and get you something in return (Check the army maker for the skill "Strategos")
Good game to watch!
Miss you guys playing Infinity! This is fun
You mention missing rules. I just want to say, as a veteran Infinity player - don't sweat it. I think it's good to demonstrate that playing a game and having fun is the first and most important part of this hobby. You can always learn more rules as you go.
27:30 Template weapons ignore cover for saves
Man, even though they are still learning and all, I just wish they remembered to go prone more, it would help them immensely😢
Here for the infinity. Keep them coming
Love to see more Infinity!
hell yeah
Play Combined Army!!!!! Sphynx and The Avatar are so fun
More Infinity!!
nice! love infinity , such a good game
Insanely nice terrain!
Awesome table, but you should start geting used to secrets, is half of the game. Camos, thermal camouflage, surpise parachutes... and mainly protect your liutenent my men.
I'm gonna infini your tea!
Nice 🎉
That's a really cool board!
39:35 Am I that dude?
By the way, what a beautiful table.
Fantastic terrain along with a great battle report. Thank you
There's also a faction with doggos and Werewolves - check out Antipodes and Dog Warriors of Ariadna :)
This during Infinity week is wonderful timing. Also, glad to see more in Infinity anywhere.
Adding: with the Saito Model you definitely needed a Paramedic, “I need healing.”
Remember: mines are deployed as a camo marker!
Ah but my opponent would know they are a mine ? Right
@@SkaredCast Maybe, but they still have to discover them before targeting them. It’s all about forcing the extra action.
Lovely table!
Great to see Infinity played, happy that you're having fun with it.
HELL YEAH!!!!
Weird Vampire lady thing is Combined Army, specifically Speculo. That faction also has troops with Protheion skill, which is basically vampirism - you eat enemy wounds in Close Combat and gain more wounds for yourself. Example unit: Caliban.
They also have a piece of equipment called Sepsitor (and Sepsitor Plus), which allows you to take control of enemy models. :)
Weird vampire lady is Ko Dali from Onyx Contact Force. She has several cool models, and a whole comic books worth of backstory in "Betrayal".
Abandoned city terrain looks great
Really like seeing Infinity on this channel! Don't get bogged down when all the comments are about rules you may have gotten wrong--we all do it but the point of the game is to simulate sweet Sci Fi combat and have fun
@RyanDattilio I don't think it'll bog them down. They're learning, and the comments help.
The infinity community always gets rules wrong (including in tournaments haha), so unlike a lot of other games, rules comments are usually positive assistance.
Kinda sad how happy I am to see anything but 40k ...
Who cares ... Infinity. Heck yeah.
That table looks incredible! Stoked to see more infinity as well
Glad you liked it.
Skari! No way! Sick crossover
Hello ! Hehe I’ve been doing content with MWG for like 3 years now 😅
@@SkaredCast I don't even play Infinity but was happy to watch you guys play this together. You both made it very enjoyable despite having to try desperately to learn the rules on the go 😅