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0:00 Intro
2:45 Surfshark
2:48 Start up
5:52 Takeoff
24:36 circuit
26:50 landing
For all the people that think the title is clickbait, I'm referring to the Aviation Charts We use to determine our safe altitudes to fly.
Seeing you are departing Hoskins, I presume that you live on the North Shore of New Britain Island PNG?
@@egonkemp3512 Ryan is based out of Goroka on the Main island.
@@TheMarvin676 got it GKA
Don’t react Ryan, just ignore them, that will infuriate the haters. Even if it was Clickbait (for what it’s worth I don’t think it was) who cares, you do what you can in any business to generate interest. Keep doing what you do mate
Hello Ryan, what is the name of that Volcano in the video. Can be seen at minute 6:13 and before.
There's so many aircraft accidents related to incorrect chart info. That valley was like a lost world, you get a feeling that no human has ever traversed that steep terrain. If you crashed there it would be so easy to never be found.
Had a friend fly into a valley in Arizona in the late 80’s. Never made it out for the exact same reason. He didn’t survey the canyon from a higher altitude, and augured in. Miss ya Ken Olson. You were one of the good guys.
Beautiful valley! If you saw a Brontosaurus grazing, it would take a minute to realize that's not normal!
If there were dinosaurs in that valley, they could not stand up because the valley sides are straight up LOL
I was envisioning pterodactyls
Great video, Ryan. That is some awesome territory there in PNG. A bit scary about that aviation chart being off. Glad you caught it. As always, Prayers are with you and your family.
Thanks for the perspective on the density of air traffic in PNG versus many other places in the world. (30 airplanes in ~170,000 sq-mile. = 0.17 aircraft per 1000 sq-miles) In the U.S. ATC is handling ~5,400 aircraft at once. (5,400/3,800,000 = 1.4 aircraft per 1000 sq miles).
Ryan, I too was scratching my head when that jet passed the windsock. No excuse for that. Great video as usual. Beautiful valley views! Thanks & stay safe!
You and me both!
Please explain to us none-pilots what was concerning about that. Is taking off with a 15knts tailwind dangerous. Does that mean the plane could get "off-balance" on take-off? Thank you
@@MissionaryBushPilot Surely he wasn't trying to take off from the mid runway taxiway exit.... that surely would be impossible.
There are legitimate performance reasons to do that and if it’s in the tailored runway performance charts then no problems……
Jets plan takeoff performance assuming failure of the critical (usually upwind) engine at V1, followed by single-engine climb to acceleration altitude and beyond. Glancing at the terrain in the area, it’s possible that the tailwind takeoff overwater allowed for a reduced takeoff thrust whilst still achieving/exceeding required single-engine takeoff climb gradient requirements. In lighties with slim performance margins there is rarely a scenario where taking a strong tailwind for takeoff is reasonable, but it’s much more common in jets which have guaranteed climb performance and generous performance margins. Legal and safe, if backed up by the appropriate performance tool/calculations.
I get excited every Sunday when these come out
Great video! Enjoyed the beauty of the canyon! Thanks for sharing! 🙏
Great video Ryan. Thank you
Love this! Beautiful footage and just the right amount of info for us nerdy pilots. Bless you for the work you do.
That is a very cool valley to fly through great job Ryan!! God bless🙏🏻🙌🏻👍🏻
My late flying instructor and lifelong friend flew Corsairs out of Jacquinot Bay during the war, I assume that this was the runway they operated off, possibly with Marsden Matting for the wet terrain.
Your knowledge of the weather PNG and how to navigate through clouds is remarkable!
Great flying job! Such a gas plowing around in them steep sided valleys. I used do a lot of that grass-cutting stuff in the VA CAP, mainly in the Blue Ridge and Appalachian Mountains.
What a spectacular valley! And I always love your timelapses
That is some chart!! A big part of the idea of a chart like that is to keep one from flying into mountains and other objects!
I like the way they were refueling the helicopter!
That is a very interesting valley!! I like the turn you have to take in there!!
Yes, it's a spectacular and not obvious turn. Without prior kowledge it would be very easy to fly straight on into a box canyon situation.......
Ryan you have brought the heavens to me in visioning in the clouds as I am a amateur weather forecaster for the Torbay area of the UK, but your footage is so powerful I really love what you do. The sceneries Ryan much appreciated. Just love your flying and wonderful filming. God bless you Ryan and many more fights.
Precision flying at its best
Heh, I can see why a lot of people complain about the G1000's GPWS being a little bit overactive when flying over steep terrain. Spectacular video as always!
Excellent as usual ! Unfortunately, I just lost a good friend who was a cousin, plus his complete family in the crash of his Malibu in N.Y. Reminded me of how dangerous even routine flying is. I stick to sim flying now. Be very safe and keep up the excellent flying....
Don’t let an accident scare you from flying, keep flying!
Hello Ryan and greetings from Finland.Great video,beautiful landscape of PNG.Really enjoying your videos and content.Thank you.
Glad you like them!
The valley was just spectacular, not a place you want to be flying without the knowledge of the area for sure😉The official chart needs shredded, that is a very scary anomoly! Awesome video once again Ryan👍
WOW!
It a good job you guys are on the ball with the game you are playing.
Flying that valley was so cool. Thanks for sharing that.
God bless you, Ryan. 🙏
Love the content!
As a flight simmer looking to learn the kodiak I’ll be sure to look at your lessons. Great plane but not the easiest to learn.
You’re one of the reasons I’m starting to do bush flying in the sim
Keep up the great content, really love watching it!
Really incredible Ryan, definitely a remote valley. Thanks for the video.
KMMH: We get the occasional Scud Runner around these parts. Density altitude and katabatic winds are a factor some may or may not take into consideration.
Good advice from Ryan...know your terrain, weather and options before going in this deep.
Other than that...that river valley is spectacular!
Beautiful valleys. I flight sim stuff like that in Nepal, France, and Columbia a lot. I’m not on Patreon, but it was easy enough to fly a similar route by following the Wunung River up to where it ends at about 5500’ and then cutting over to the West a few miles and riding the Bairaman River back down. Pretty exhilarating ride. As you mentioned, that last turn left in Wunung left me pretty short, I had to add a notch of flaps and got down to 65 knots right at the top coming onto that plateau.
You are the "Cloud Master" Ryan! I've followed your channel for years and know the work you have put into understanding the landscape and weather in PNG and that you are a very safe pilot as a result. Even so, I felt nervous as you worked your way down into the Bairaman River valley as it's very intimidating place even though I knew your techniques would keep you safe. Prior knowledge of the terrain, judging if the holes in the clouds are big enough to descend through, keeping to the side of the valley to leave room to turn back, speed control and use of flaps for reaction time - over the years they've stuck with me and flight simming in PNG has bcome a challenging pleasure. Thanks Ryan.
You people are heroes. 🙏
Jacquinot Bay was a Royal New Zealand Air Force Airfield during WW2 (Corsairs). A number of Surrendered Japanese Aircraft were gathered there for return to NZ and Australia after the war, but most were left there due to lack of transport space. There were still there until very recently - some are now in museums.
Interesting 🤔
That was SPECTACULAR…my Sunday Special‼️
I would definitely have taken off into the wind regardless of the inconveniences. Safety is always the most important consideration.
There are good safety reasons for a jet to take a tailwind for takeoff. The performance considerations differ significantly from light aircraft. Agree that in a lighty there is rarely a good reason to take a strong tailwind though.
Thanks for posting these awesome videos! looks like you got some different angles from the cockpit and outside view. Love it! looks incredible and feels like flying with you ;)
Beautiful Video.
As Always.
Grand Canyon with trees…
That valley was as green as my envy of you and your job. I really do enjoy your videos.
thanks Ryan you da man!
Hi Ryan, This is a very nice video! I really enjoy your unique style, especially how you make the effort to explain your decisions and the various procedures. Many thanks
Great video Ryan, really enjoyed this one.
Wow! Another amazing flight! The flight through the valley was incredible. You are so gifted in your flying abilities. I pray for your safety and thank you for the lives that you bless!
Thanks for sharing, fun to watch your type of flying. Love the Kodiaks.
Super stuff as always! Really spectacular views. Thanks for sharing.
This was a good one. Thanks!
Best weather reports anywhere, cheers Philip. I'm here near Brisbane, my kiwi wife is in Matamata awaiting the birth of another grandchild. Happy days ..😊
Just to put something you aid in perspective. I’m a retired controller from Chicago Center. My airspace half the size of San Diego county, was divided into 6 sectors and each sector has as many as 30 aircraft at any one time.
thanks for the hard work too it's appreciated by many
Good morning from Minnesota USA! That valley was awesome!
Oh, Wow!! Music.
All the very best
P.S, Does Brad, have a channel?
Shaun 🦉 of New York City 🗽
No, I'm the only one that has a channel here filming my flighta
Great job!
Request: Shoot your videos in 3D Imax so we can get the same perception as you. 😜Stunning scenery
That would be sweet
Aww! You put a huge dent in that drum 🛢️ 😔
Thanks!
Nice Ryan..... appreciate the videos :) From SE Texas Bear ❤💯🙏
OOOooopppppsssss! Did it again Ryan -----> video time ~4:10 Callout "All Stations Hoskins, NT E , rolling runway 12 ....."
Glad I'm not the only one that caught that!
@@ksweeneyj Ryan has made the comment earlier that "NTE" is his favorite and that if he isn't careful, he will inadvertently announce that he is flying NTE regardless of reality. (It happens; no biggy)
The downsides of flying 3 different aircraft
em@@MissionaryBushPilot Yep - so true! In Roland's imortal words (never to be forgotten) "Good morning November Tango Echo - I only have a flight plan details for November Tango Kilo!" - not sure your response was publishable I suspect! Can't help but like Roland, that was so funny - the Echo/Kilo confussion produced a smile in his voice but wonderful efficiency - he knows you so well Ryan!.
Wow, Ryan, that canyon was amazing!
I know of a young man who is a Christian and is very qualified. I'm praying that he doesn't like flying for W Buffet.
He had a job lined up with Spirit, the day he was to start ,they sold, and he didn't have a job. Now in training with buffet.
Beautiful Scenery. Also looks very desolate/remote in that valley. Hope you have one or more good radio beacon/transponders that will alert people of your position should you go down. Stay safe.
Great video ....stay safe Ryan
He paid for the whole runway, so he used the whole runway. 😂
Well I hope so - I scincerley hope he didn't take off from the mid runway taxiway exit!
another exceptional aviation video by Ryan
Ryan you are so lucky to be piloting like this, when I was 16 and passed my PPL I always dreamt of doing flying like this, unfortunately I failed my class 1 medical (due to being uppertone death) so alas I can fly PPL but cannot fly cpl/atpl yet I speak to the same atc tell me how that works!!!
My concern is those mountains and the turbulence they can create could slam you downward . You can always climb blind through the clouds unless in a severe down draft. I have had a down draft / clear air micro burst that almost forced me into the water at St. Augustine for 2 minutes right after take off . I can only imagine the down drafts and clear air rotors in the mountains.
Down drafts are something Ryan talks alot about when crossing high ridges and his analysis of each situation he is fascinating. Due to PNG's geographical location and the time of day he usually flies, strong winds and turbulence are not often a problem but he always factors them in. I struggle to comprehend how Ryan seems to be be able to compute / remember where up and down dafts are to be found just about anywhere in PNG!
4:07 November Tango Echo 😉
I was today years old when I learned Robinson makes an R66 turbine. I'm a fixed wing guy, so I don't feel bad about not knowing.
I flashed back to your KitFox videos in that valley. Must get a lot of rain to get those waterfalls. Impressive knowledge of the weather, local goegraphy and conditions to get into the valley. With only the limited view it would be easy for me to make a wrong decision. I wonder if that chart error is known to the makers ? I presume theres a process o notify them ? I think errata are published for nautical charts that are expected to be manually applied.
They are historical charts and the errors will never be updated. Sadly countries like PNG seem to lack accurate maps - those Ryan uses are quite good around the coast for VFR but as I've found in my PNG flight simmulation exploration they do lack definition in the high ground areas with sparse contour details although they do seem to identify the rivers and mountains quite well. Living in the UK where the Ordenance Survey produce superb maps I still struggle to understand that even now many countries in the world don't have good, accurate maps.
That F100 guy should get tea and bikkies after that. Just because the numbers says its technically possible doesn't mean you should do it. And yes, I have thousands of hours in that aircraft type.
I saw the first F28 land in Goroka in the late 70's. They said due to the altitude of the runway the jets would never land there. Yeah i am not sure about that tailwind takeoff either! Cheers
Why do I remember NTE? November Tango Echo? Did it change?
We have 3 Kodiaks
Very nice.
Luckily dinosaurs were invented in 1841 by the royal society, just slightly older then the 172's at our local flight school
due diligence - main takeaway on this flight
Eek... NTE asked for takeoff... not NTK, hope you'll be okay
Other than wanting to fly down into the valley, I cannot understand why you didn’t remain at 7000’ until over the water on the other side of the island and descend down to VMC. That way, there is no concern for hitting the terrain or getting boxed into the valley with weather.
That was the reason - Ryan wanted to fly down the valley as it is spectacular - but only if it was safe to do so. As Ryan explained elsewhere on this thread unless you have the experience, what he does looks risky and dangerous but in truth, despite the fact he seems quite relaxed it is very calculated and controlled flying.
I am no where near a passenger jet expert, but was that a Fokker 70 that lifted off in the beginning? I haven't seen one here in the States for years since Piedmont and US Air stopped usinf them!
I think it’s the larger F100. Airniugini uses both.
@@paullackey8813 Thanks very much for your answer. I always found the Fokkers to be interesting because of their unique spoilers that would open up at their tail like a clam shell.
@@RaymondCalloway Air Niugini has been using Fokkers from the beginning. When I lived there in the nineties, most of their fleet consisted of F28s. Before that they had a fleet of F27s.
That's an Air Niugini's F100 taking off. The fleet of F100 was introduced to ANG in 2004 after the F28s were phased out. It's a strong and sturdy aircraft with high performance engine.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ WOW! It's like a lost Valley! You're right, Missionary Bush Pilot! Actually, Dinosaurs are still roaming the Earth. We call them Birds! 😂 They're the direct desendants of the Dinosaurs. Nice bit of flying there, Buddy! I'm glad you cling to one side of the valleys you fly, to give you room to turn, if you need to! 👍 God Bless, Safe Flights & Keep The Blue Side Up!
PS: Why did your Chopper Buddy do a Hot Refueling? Kinda risky, isn't it…
Cumulo granite aka CFIT - dangerous stuff - box canyons are dangerous
Echo/Kilo mixed up at pre-takeoff radio call. A placard on the dash? 👍
There is one. I had just been flying E for the past month
15kt tailwind takeoff? Well that's a bit... cavaliere. I can't find any numbers for that Fokker 100, but many carriers I saw had company regs that state anything over 10kts is verboten. He was so close to the end if the runway if he RTOed it was 100% going to be an excursion. His V1 speed must have been about the same time he said "thrust set".
Ever heard of a balanced field takeoff…….ANG aren’t stupid.
Boeing 737-800 I fly the max tailwind for takeoff and landing is 15 knots…..obviously we would complete a performance calculation on the Boeing OPT, but there are times it’s safer to accept a tailwind……terrain engine out etc or missed approach issues etc
@@craigpitts2209 Actually no, I have never heard of a balanced field take off. Please explain.
Now now mate 😄 the F100 is probably certified for 15 knot tailwinds, they would have done the performance figures for it and it’s probably safer with an engine failure heading over the water…….They have their reasons I’m sure
fly into those valley and mountains is fucking scary tho
That jet took off at a 15 knot tailwind. Why? What a Bozo!
There are legitimate reasons for jet aircraft to take tailwinds like that which differ significantly from performance planning considerations in light aircraft. Don’t know if that was necessarily the case here, but it’s not always a simple case of tailwind = bad in transport category aircraft.
Ryan, when time permits, can you explain what the harnesses are?
If you are refering to the references to harness on the the Buddy Checkbox it's to ensure the harness lock is engaged prior to take off or landing. The pilots wear their harness at all times but inflight it is in an unlocked condition which gives them freedom of movement for operating the aircraft. For take off and landing when he calls "Harnesses" you'll notice Ryan sits back in his seat and reaches up to the ceiling and sweeps a small lever across - the lock that keeps the harness tight.
Maybe the Tasmanian Tiger lives there
Thanks for the Ride...your definitely a Great pilot... Thinking Safety First. I really enjoy flying along with you...I learned alot.👍
Steve Fossett comes to mind.
Sounds like your organization went into a lot of trouble to make those ifr charts. Is there any way to fix those original charts ?
Thanks Ryan for the flight. Very much enjoyed the view. Mad respect for ALL Bush and Missionary pilots serving Papua New Guinea 🇵🇬
Trupla! Pawaful! 💯
P.S.: Good to see the Air Niugini Fokker 100 taking-off in your video ... PX pilots treat 'em as rally cars in PNG, sometimes flying PX fokkers to near stall speeds that you'd want to see these flying machines fall from mid-air 😅
Does the trim wheel move automatically at any point? or are you using the yoke button to control it?
I'm curious: Why not just fly above it all rather than winding through valleys that are dangerous? It seems if you went to 10,000' you are above all the terrain and can do a straight route to the destination and no need to use oxygen. I am guessing it'd be faster and more fuel efficient too.
Because he wanted to show off a little bit :-)
Because flying at 10,000' is boring to watch
30 planes, I knew it was just a few but damn! I'm retired Air Traffic Controller (Washington ARTCC) and regularly worked 30 airplanes in just one sector. The procedures you work would definitely NOT work here in the USA.
Quite right - they wouldn't! Give me PNG anyday as at my age the USA system blows the circuits in my brain. Flying in PNG is challenging but for me as as a simmer the lack of ATC rules and regulations is a blessing - you can concentrate on reading the environment and flying accordingly.
While you’re descending and manoeuvring around the clouds, how do you know there won’t be any cloud at the next turn around the corner? It doesn’t look like there is room to safely complete a turn around or room to climb out of it. Obviously seems like you know what you’re doing, however I just wondering what the thought process is to deal with exactly those situations before you get into them.
Something I posted earlier might help give you an insight into the thought process.
"Prior knowledge of the terrain, judging if the holes in the clouds are big enough to descend through, keeping to the side of the valley to leave room to turn back, speed control and use of flaps for reaction time - over the years they've stuck with me and flight simming in PNG has bcome a challenging pleasure."
It takes time to gain the necessary experience safely. Over time and videos Ryan has explained and demonstrated these techniques. They work surprisingly realistically in my flight simmulation as well - two years ago I avoided clouds in the mountains like a plague but now using the above techniques I am much more confident and capable. As Ryan says, just make sure you leave yourself a way to escape any situation you approach.
Have you got different DG rules in PNG
Ryan i see you load several gas bottles in to the hold. Is this a vented area because if is not vented it is a very dangerous thing to do. It only needs a small leak and a spark from any source and you and your airplane will never be found.
yes, it is vented a little. Not with a designated airflow, but air does move around in there.
That helmet of the Helicopter Pilot looks fancy. Is it the same jet fighter pilots have?
Yes, very similar. He also had it custom painted
Wonder if the chart error is due to the altitude being in meters vs feet
The figures don't add up. Sadly it just seem to be poor map making - inadequate survey data and imaginative cartography. The coastal survey seems good (probably based on historical naval data) but the further inland you go the sketchier the survey gets. Some highpoints may be reasonably accurately plotted by distant theodolites but much of what fills in between can be somewhat imaginative. PNG was a very, very difficult country to survey for accurate mapping with tradional methods and there has never been much money. Sattelite mapping is helping and Mapcarta gives a much better (though not perfect) contour map. Hope that helps.