Was Buying This Abandoned Airplane a Horrible Mistake ?
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
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I bought a $500,000 airplane that was abandoned for 11 years and it looks rough, but can we get it to start? This Cirrus SR22 sat abandoned at Frederick Municipal Airport in Maryland collecting dirt and bird nests. After seeing this plane in person I've definitely been second guessing my buy. If the interior, avionics, and engine look as bad as the outside...we're going to be in big trouble.
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I hope you checked into the cost of the repacking the parachute? It is very expensive. And have heard it takes a while to
11 years about 4,000 days ... thats one birdy plane
you have got to stop buying planes with the smoking wire app ... ;)
Where's today's episode?!
@@bglenn2222 Let me take a wild guess. Jason was recently notified by the owners lawyer that the person he bought the Cirrus from is not the real owner and the whole thing is in probate court so Jason has decided to take shelter until he can figure out what comes next.
The previous owner should have paid you to take it since they apparently had zero interest in flying it anymore. Truly a rescue in need.
what if the person who left it, got sick or something? Maybe the dream of life, but no more possible because of any shit that happens in life?
@@senffabrik4903 Exactly what I thought. There's an empty hangar at my home airport, the owner died about 10 years ago and the wife just let it sit. We're trying to convince her to sell it.
Composites left in the sun for 11 years is an insane situation. Someone had more money than good sense.
@@ronsmith5349 i'm presuming someone passed away - anyone who flies will not be letting a plane like this sit
@@oscarpeters5309 yea something happened. Its a shame to see such a good airplane take on so much passive damage from being abandoned. All it needed was some plugs and heavy duty plane cover man..... lol. But with the engine running strong there's hope
How about no sense
I’ve worked as a federally licensed aircraft mechanic for 40 years. The single most important thing you can do is a thorough records inspection. Not only on the aircraft but the engines, propellers and avionics. Each may have Airworthiness Directives issued against them. The second is a thorough annual inspection. Don’t skimp on this inspection as you have no personal history on this aircraft. Most aircraft manufacturers have an aging aircraft inspection that can be done as well and especially where you’re looking at composite materials in the elements for an extended time. It’s an area where you need to put some good focus. Good luck on your adventure. You will certainly get plenty of content from this project. Expensive as it maybe. Enjoy!
Why so. They most likely will do a quick walk around, a wash job, charge the batt, fire it up and reach for the sky.
@@Norwegiansteam1 Not just licensed but federally licensed.
@@jplumbob The federal gov. (FAA) is the only body that issues licenses (certificates). However, you don't need to be a FAA certified repair station to perform work on certified aircraft. An A&P certificate will suffice.
Totally did not recognize Joe without the beard!
I was wondering why they didn't introduce this new Joe fella for a few minutes.
Exactly! My first thought was: Gee how many Joes does he have on his team? 🤔 But then it dawned on me that we see the real face of Joe for the first time‼And you look darn good like this Joe! Makes you 10 years younger too 👍.
He looks 20 years younger!
Looking good. It's summer boys, shave!
Much better Joe😊
who the heck buys something as nice as a SR22 and ditches while its still so close to new? Hard to understand how something so new gets to be abandoned. Hope it works out well for you guys though.
There's a lot of us that have no connections to others and when we kick off who would know what we have and where it is.
Usually, its the chute service that does it, its around $20k on these and really hard to get parts, there is a waiting list.
It all comes down to one word money. I might add people die, other financial issues alike the 2007 downturn.
That thought crossed my mind. But then I thought, someone who has money, enough money not to care about money. I get it. But that should be a crime to do that to any plane.
They figured out that the purchase price of an airplane is only half the cost of flying an airplane.
135k was too much, but a Cirrus is a really cool plane. Looking forward to seeing more videos on this rescue!
Yeah about 140,000 to much. 😂
I think they mean 50,000 but just put too much zero😂
@@kewintaylor7056 The 500,000 refers to the price of the aircraft when it was new in 2003.
Yea outside of the structure of the plane and engine literally everything else needs to be gutted lol. Id push hard for maybe 70-80k since the actual engine and structure of the plane appears to be in good shape. Its also high performance, tks, ac etc. Then Id dump a good 35k for interior and repaint as that whole interior has to go asap.
Joe you look 20 years younger with the shave!
The state of this airplane breaks my heart. Who just leaves an amazing airplane like this to rot? I hope the panel is still good!
The panel? Are you nuts, all takes is one bite from a rat into any elect wire or flight control cable you can’t see and it’s death.
People do the same thing to million dollar yachts.
Happens way more than you think...
@@benjigault9043 I'm sure it does. My uncle was talking about buying another plane right up until right before he died. If he had actually bought one, I'm sure the family would have been at a loss. They might have sold it right away or simply let it sit and paid the hangar fees only.
They only factored in the purchase of the plane, not the cost of storage and maintenance.
Or they lost their job.
Or they died.
FYI, there is another UA-camr in Arizona that picked up one of these planes not too long ago. He found out there was a long wait to get parts, and the parachute needs to repacked every
now and then. Not cheap.
Someone quoted $20k for the parachute repack/replacement. That can't be right, can it?
That's actually pretty close to the right price. The earlier models you have to cut through the body to get to the parachute. Very tedious process.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 It's actually a bit higher for a G1 like this. Replacement is every 10 years from date of manufacture of the rocket and parachute packing.
@@briantii Now that I think about it it doesn't seem too much. I'm sure it's a complex and expensive operation with high grade gear.
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Yeah - it's still not a fun check to write though. We did our G1 SR20 4 years ago. Not looking forward to the next one. 😀
Dang. Some cowl plugs and a plane cover from the previous owner would have prevented 90% of the damage lol. Goes to show how even a tiny bit of care goes a long way
It's unbelievable that the owner or the family or whatever didn't do any preventative measures or maintenance on the plane. It's worth a lot of money and you just leave it out there without even cowl plugs? Like... what?
The name for this airplane/project the “Terrarium” with all the moisture and moss growing in it. I love these videos, makes me feel a lot better about some of the maintenance issues that pop up from time to time.
135k is insane for a plane that sat for 11 years! I really love these videos. I don’t know how it could possibly be profitable to do what you’re doing, but I really hope you keep doing it! Maybe start a flight school and use some of these rescues to instruct, that might be a way for some of them to make money.
No it is not lol. These go for crazy money. Heck, 172s are going for 200k.
@@calebniederhofer6529 The only reason its 135k is because of the low time engine which appears to be in great shape for 11 years. If it wasn't for that id be negotiating for 80k max lol
Cirrus owner here G3 Avidyne/430. Great find. Good luck with restoration. Please post avionics shop and interior shop for fellow owners who look to upgrade. Hope to see you at Oshkosh if you plan to attend.
@@billkinzler3773 We’ll be there !
@@rebuildrescuewhere at the air show wil you be? I’m from Australia coming for the first time. Would love to say hello to you guys!
@@mtadc1545 I believe they are referring to the Experimental Aircraft Association Fly-in in Oshkosh Wisconsin. You can Google EAA Oshkosh and get all the info about it.
I was soooo pissed when I saw this. Frederick is my home airport and I had my eye on the plane for years. Now that I’ve seen the video, I am glad that’s not me. 😂
It won’t stay In the air long. They’ll miss something and it’ll go down.
@@RaceMentally that is really really really messed up to write that. Poor soul.
I would never feel safe flying this heap.
@@RaceMentally how optimistic...
@@RaceMentallyThe actual foundation if the plane is fine so it will fly no problem. BUT they will have to gut the whole thing inside and out and do a partial rebuild
It wouldn't be Rebuild Rescue without demo day at the bird hotel. A little spit shine on the interior and she'll be good as new. My guess was 72% so glad I was wrong. Thank you for another awesome Saturday. Happy Independence Day to everyone. Be safe and don't get dead everyone.
That Sundays ad was adorable!
I'm super excited to see what happens with the Cirrus! Gorgeous plane!
My hearts breaking. I’d like to know what happened for someone to allow such a beautiful plane go to waste like that.
Seriously, I assume someone had major family, medical issues or just died??? Surely if they could afford to buy that they could have afforded to at least find covered storage if not indoor storage!
My brain cannot process leaving THIS out for 11 years.
I feel like you all need to get a large portable canopy to block the sun for things like this. Would also help you see the screens.
Yeah, if it had shelter from rain and direct sun it would have saved SO much damage!
And covers to keep the birds out!!!
Another rescue but not one rescue from the past is flying…
I've been an A&P Mechanic for 45 years with decades of composite experience. With a composite airframe, sitting in the sun for over a decade, I wouldn't fly in it.
I'm so glad to see you finally got this one! We used to be tied down right next to it.
It would be interesting to hear the backstory on the airplane. That's way too much value just to let rot at the airport.
Wow, great job guys! I was amazed at how it started up like it was just flown an hour earlier!! Yes, she is going to need a lot of love, but since the engine is great it looks like a win overall. Man, I didn't recognize Joe without his beard, looking good Joe! Stay safe you guys!
Hey Brother! We always appreciate hearing from you, thank you for being apart of the channel and always supporting 👍🏻
Wow. Seemed to start right up. Good luck rescuing the avionics and all the other necessary airworthy components.
This is going to be a cool project! Can’t wait to see more, you’re a hero for saving this airplane!
$135k seems like waaaaaaay too much money for that regardless of original hours.
Great video, thanks for sharing, I just recently purchased a 1954 E35 Bonanza, had an issues with birds living under the cowl as well, this gave me a lot of hope.
I tried to buy that plane many times. Always told they couldn’t sell. Glad you guys got it.
Finally A win. Thanks Jason and Joe.
It literally took Joe speaking before I knew who he was without the beard lol
You need a counter in the corner for $$$ spent on a rescue it may spin faster than you can imagine
😂 Joe looking 10 years younger without the beard and his new pearly whites! Hard working legend he is!🏆
Well, I was very happy to hear her start & run. She Purred like a kitten! ❤Happy she has been rescued. 😊 Joe you look younger & a lot cooler on a hot day!
Looking forward to more of this Cirrus rescue.
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I didn’t know Joe was as young as he is! 😮 No beard makes a huge difference.
That is a pretty sweet plane! It looked a bit rough but it cleaned up pretty well. I did see it had you favorite birds nest in place in the engine compartment. 😂😂😂 Good luck on the new project!
Thank you! Glad to see you on the channel Brother!
I definitely would take all the technical precautions on engine startup .....,such as lubricating the piston rings ,draining water out of the oil and fuel etc. , I am not a aircraft mech ,but do have a little engine savy......
Wish I was there to be a part of this. I got my PPL at KFDK 11 years ago. Now own a vintage 62 PA-28 160. I could only dream of a find like this. Good for your team and thanks for sharing.
I say you get the window sealed up, doors fixed, avionics overhauled, tires and breaks replaces and you can fly her home to the rescue hanger so she can have a full inspection with all the correct hardware!
This Cirrus has all the bells and whistles on it, like getting a loaded Cadillac, and the added bonuses were it started up and ran with no issues and it has a parachute, you can’t beat that.
Great job guys. I had high hopes on it starting. As soon as you showed us the clean. But old fuel had zero water. Yep save the cirrus
I worked at an FBO while in school for my A&P in 05’ and these were everywhere. I remember once a coworker had his foot get stuck on a tug gas pedal while pushing one into the hanger and smashed it into a concrete wall. I will never forget the sound that wingtip made as it folded over and snapped in half.
29:39 never forget watching your first video back in the cold with the free abandoned airplane
SWEET. I would love to log time in a Cirrus.
The bird nests in engine compartment, although not great, is gold to the viewers whom have ocd. Seeing the terrible condition and what you guys do to them is extremely satisfying,. So all in all don't have buyers remorse on the cirrus because it makes for great content 🇺🇲
Its great to welcome the new guy to Rebuild Rescue. I'm really going to miss Joe though.
Best episode in a while, let’s hear more about this Cirrus, hope you make money on it.
WOW, that was a pleasant surprise to see and hear that engine running smoothly,without a lot of smoke,on stale fuel. At least you have a “ partial “ winner so far.
This episode: 100% enjoyed the most of any! Thank you so much!
Awesome! Thank you for watching and supporting Anthony👍🏻
Congratulations 🎉 looking forward to see more videos on this machine 👍🏼
More to come! Thank you for supporting Brother👍🏻
Great job guys another rescue ready to fly again
People waste the nicest stuff... really hard to fathom.
Nice start and all the best with the rest of the cleanup and refitting.
Thanks and regards.
Sometimes it's just better to be lucky than good. I didn't recognize Joe without his bird's nest too😊.
I wish i was there to witness that start. Looks like a good deal Good luck .
From about 2003-13, I worked almost exclusively on SR22s. As I'm watching this, I'm adding up all the $$$ they're going to have to throw at this plane that they have no clue about yet. Little things like the $900 TKS filter, the four rubber bushings on the standby alternator that are $100 each, the $1800 alternator coupling. And let's not even talk about the cost of (probably) having to fix the air conditioning - it was over $18 for the last time I had on fixed.....
Oh, the parachute repack! They won't be able to get on anyone's schedule for 6-12 months, and it will cost nearly $30K......
Hoping for a part 2. I mean they are definitely going to have to put a minimum of 75K ( my guess into it. ) but if they sell it for 250 or greater, they've made some money!
Not worthwile fly without it just takes a placard !!
good luck chaps hope you get this lovely looking airplane flying soon
Great to see it run. I was leaning toward Jason's 40% (or lower). Glad we were both wrong! Tires, new fuel, temp avionics and a thorough check and it might take to the air soon for the one time ferry flight. Great find and the best of luck.
I absolutely love Cirruses, but are you financially ready for this Jason? Even if everything with the airframe and engine is great, you'll need a CAPS replacement and upgrade to electronic CAPS ignition, as well as an ADS-B out solution. If you need any avionics work done and you can get it to KJYO, come on over!
Remove and disable the CAPS then you have real airplane
@@davidmotter5140 I mean, you might have a bit more useful load, but I think it would be a great feature to have in case something were to happen
Hey guys. I have been with you guys from the beginning. I look forward every week to seeing the next video. You have a really great team. I have a pilot license and have owned six different airplanes in the past, back when flying was kinda affordable. haven't flown in a while. I really miss it. I also have my Glider rating. Since I live near the Blue Ridge Mountains that was a lot of fun. I like Joe better with a beard lol. When I saw him without it I said who is that. I thought he was a new guy. I think you will do great with this airplane. It has a lot of possibilities. I was concerned when you were looking at the engine. Glad it turned out the way it did. I really miss Sam. He was a good man. Keep up the good work. God Bless all of you.
The ONLY thing that REALLY failed on the aircraft were the window seals to be honest!!! BUT DANG they caused a lot of probs!!!
It took me 5 MINUTES... to realize that 'Joe'... WASN'T a NEW man!!! Joe without whiskers... this may take awhie to get use too!! LOL!!
The only comment about the price of the plane is... whoever sold it... KNEW the Ballistic Parachute would need replacing. The cost and Lead Time for a replacement... should have reflected that. 'Nuff said!!
Nice new plane!! =)
She cleaned up nice and I was hoping for a home run on this one, but when I saw the natural grass carpeting the only thing I could hope for would be a good start up. Hey, two out of three ain't bad! Sounded sweet, firing up on the second turn and purring like a kitten.
Y'all had us worried but what a great sound.... I think ya have a winner there, but ya do still have a biiitttt more money to put in it.... and I'm sure it will be worth it...
Thanks for another exciting/ scary episode..... what fun we all had!
😎 bob
As a Cirrus owner it is so sad to see this plane in such poor condition.
Joe, you shaved lookin' good buddy. That plane looks like a good rescue. I will say you are cursed with bird crap though. Thanks for keeping them going it's enjoyable.
Gotta watch as soon as I get home. Happy Saturday y'all!
Happy Saturday!
Sweet ass airplane and it was just neglected what a shame. But SR22 as cool as they are they are straight money pits worse then other private planes due to the avionics and especially the parachute pack they have onboard. I hope you guys get this old girl flying again LET'S GO 💪🏼
I've owned a 2005 and a 2008 Cirrus SR22. Seeing one stored outside, much less neglected like this one, breaks my heart.
I was shocked that you paid so much without seeing the plane. It is going to cost a bunch to get this one back into good shape.
Omg I'm so excited for a nee build like this!!!!
One of the first things I thought of was rodents. I worked for an airline and we had several instances in which rodents had been seen in airplanes so the a/c were taken out of service until the rodents were found and removed. There was ALWAYS wiring damage.
Hard to believe it's been 11 years by the way that engine sounded. I barely recognized Joe lol, looks good without the beard.
When I first saw the Cirrus logo in the rear floor I seriously had to do a double-take as I thought it said 'Chia'. Well, it is green... ;-)
Then my next thought was, "I wonder if he knows that parachute needs to be replaced, how expensive it is and how long it takes once he's on the list for replacement?"
i just got a plane and brought it home to KFDK itself a few weeks ago. The amount of bugs, birds, and rain we get, i get nervous leaving it alone more than 3 days, much less multiple years on end. Thats quite the find for an airport thats typically clean
Oh man, when you lifted that engine cowling, I felt for you bro. Your biggest nemesis is back. Bigger, nastier and poopier.
Did not recognize Joe without the beard! I thought you had a new member of the crew! Yes it will start! good luck!
Watching you cleaning out the engine compartment, makes me hold my breath.
I love this! It's like watching a fresh version of episode #1! :)
Awesome to hear! Thank you for watching Brother
Manufacturer - good plan. The manufacturer will also give an honest assessment on what they would put in the airplane given what you have and how much value is in that.
If I could fly, I would love to have that plane. It’s outside my price range, but I would still love it when it’s all fixed up and ready to fly.
I think the bird stuff insulated the engine and put a protective layer over it.. so I'm sure it will fire straight up..😆 🤣
It Will be a great rescue!!!
If you need a Cirrus support group - talk to the boys from JR Aviation 😂
Nice to see Joe's twin brother on the job 🤣 Almost unrecognized having his beard all shaved off. lol
Holy smokes I wish you guys were closer! I used to love flying. I haven’t flown for quite a few years now. Every time I watch one of your videos makes me wanna go get an airplane again, with no money ha ha. Thanks for a great video. If you’re ever in the Reno area, let me know.
I'm really glad the engine was fine!!!
Was this a true gem or what . It was quite the adventure getting to the point of CONTACT but with what i saw during scoping the cylinders the heart was showing promise. Then it happened , yuh pulled the trigger and with a mighty roar she yelled LET'S GOOOOOOO. That is nothing short of a beautiful plane and lets get it back in the sky 👍✌️
Nice terrarium!!
Great video it reminds me of the old days.
I flew one of the first two SR-20s, either 201CD or 202CD in February 1996 at the Cirrus factory in Duluth. These two “proof of concept” ships didn’t have the BRS parachutes.
It was an awesome experience.
enjoyed every second of it! wow
Awesome! Thank you!
At least some good news at the end yet one of the biggest projects, I reckon. Very interested to follow as well.
5:35 Especially doing things sight unseen, Mr. Sight Unseen guy, 😂
Is that really Joe??
Amazing video ....appreciate 👍👍
Ohh, I see the essential vise grips on the door strut 😁
Oh my gosh, your conure is sooo adorable 😂😭😭