Cessna Experts Inspect My Abandoned 310 Airplane....
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
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If only every one of your subscribers would donate a dollar, that would be awesome.
I just cannot watch a video like this for an hour and a half. Sadly I have come to disbelieve your video titles. Con man is a strong word, but making yourself rich by YT embellishment seems to be the entire point of this channel. So long I have real stuff to do.
Save the 310!!!
Call the fantasy of flight guy. See if he’ll help or would want it for his collection. There can’t be too many early 310’s out there that are polished up like that one is.
…he’d prolly even want to fix it before putting it in his collection.
I watched the whole video - keep that bird and make it class 1 super dooper airworthy - we'd love it
The reality of proper maintenance on older airplanes! Excellent expert Inspection!
Thanks for posting!
Thanks for the positive comment Juan.
Cheers Juan. Have nice weekend sir
Hey Juan good to see you here!
Owning a 1964 150 i dont think its no longer maintenance it is more like a on going restoration.
@34:08 So nice to hear the words "Impressive for its age", instead of "insane".
This bird is now a display item. Great eye candy. Its new life will be in a museum, corporate foyer, mall display, hung from ceiling, something like that. It can live forever and give joy without flying.
I vote for Jimmy's crew to do the repairs as possible. Get it back in the air
Me too. But it will will still be a tired aircraft, tired interior, leaky engines and you can still find a fault that ends it even after 110k spent on it. So makes no sense to fix it up... thats why he should do it. He's already got the savethe310 domain.
I am a 40 year A&P/ IA. I fully respect and support these professionals in this shop.
@davidnelson8081, These people have a serious knowledge of these planes. I'm sure this takes years and years of experience.
These hidden little gems on old aircraft make you think twice about buying someone else's problem. There are areas that you would never think to inspect or look at when purchasing used aircraft. Thanks for the insightful and informative video on used antique aircraft maintenance.
Or, at least for a price that is adjusted for age & fixing any issues.
Why dump money into something you will never see a return on. I would invest in another plane.
Exotic cars can be worse.
That is always the case, when you buy used you are usually buying someone else's problems.
That is why you either pay for a pre purchase inspection or you factor in worse case scenario.
So refreshing to see the A&P side of the house getting some spotlight. I’m Avionics/A&P and while we take a lot of pride in our work, we rarely get some credit. Love seeing these vids lately.
I work at a flight school and we’re dealing with spar corrosion on some of our twins. Not a fun thing to find and definitely a costly job. These older girls take a blank check to keep flying!
What is the hourly rate of a guy who does these type of repairs ? Thanks!
Not to mention some likely metal fatigue to go along with it!
@@chuckschillingvideos 100%. Intergranular corrosion is the root of all evil haha
Jimmy, we don't know exactly what you are going to decide on this situation with the 310, BUT this video has been highly instructive and entertaining for us airplane nerds out here. I have learned so much about the inner workings of airplanes that one seldom gets to see, and I hope this provides impetus for aircraft owners to go the extra mile on their routine maintenance and inspections. Thank you for sharing this whole story with us!
A family friend was a pilot, he picked up a brand new plane from the factory, and was flying it across the US back to California, Suffered a dual engine failure due to manufacturing defects in the fuel system, fuel all bled out and he called in to the closest tower told them he was going down and he was going to land on a road but a car came around the corner so he landed it in a field flipped it upside down in a drainage ditch got knocked out his brother pulled him out of the plane. The manufacturer had to pay him a shitload of money and gave him a new plane because of it. I believe it was Piper that was in the 70's
So true. Not an area to neglect, rather it should be a priority. The price for scrimping or delay can be huge, & that is irrelevant of dollars & cents.
After watching this video, the old adage that "if it flies, floats or f***s, you shold rent it" comes to mind.
Haha sad but true
Jimmy I can't tell you how much I felt Your pain an aguish watching all your 310 videos. I'm 73 and have owned three airplanes over the past 45 years and was just looking at buying another piper lance one to work on but after seeing what you went through you have convinced me to build a Vans RV-10 instead. Thanks for sharing your honesty and integrity with us all. I recently bought a top of the line 17 year old, low milage Class A Diesel pusher for $85,000 about $20,000 under value. To look at it both inside and out it was a 9/10, but as I begin to fix the squawks I quickly put $10,000 into it and did the work my self only to find out that all four slides were severely rotted between the interior and exterior from sitting out in Florida weather for 5 months a year by the previous owner who kept it very clean but poor roof maintenance and while the exterior fiberglass looked like new it has so much unseen rot and delimitation found which prevented me from closing the slides air time and would have to be rebuilt for a cost of $40-60.000. Needless to say I couldn't sell it to anyone else without telling them what I found out and sold it for $55.000 to a guy that repairs slide outs and knew what he was getting into. my loss was $38,000. thanks again !
That Cessna 310 in Polished aluminum is the most gorgeous Cessna I've seen..
It lacks nice Penny.
And like many hot pretties, it'll leave a dent in your wallet. 😂
Its garish crap
Just because its shiny does not mean its a heap of rubbish which it is
I agree. Looks beautiful.
@@gowdsake7103not either. It’s a beautiful example of aviation from that time period. Juan Brown flies one and he’s a 777 pilot. What do you fly?
Look at the Amelia Earharts aircraft. The beautiful Lockheed Electra. Finished exactly the same way? What would you do? wrap it the same color as your Tesla?
The older gentleman reminds me of my great uncle. He was an Airplane Mechanic his whole life. He had forgotten more about airplanes than most people will ever know. He used to build the most spectacular RC aircraft as a hobby in his spare time.
It’s a lovely looking 310 and it will cost to fix it but if you want it as a private collectable aircraft it’s worth fixing but as a commercial project it’s not worth it unless you are using it for a VIP service but would be a shame to scrap it . I am a aircraft engineer about to retire and would love fixing these old aircraft just for something to do to preserve them for future generations to admire
He's a know nothing cowboy, I wouldn't fly on anything he's touched.
Nah these guys don't know what they're talking about
This video should be viewed by every would-be plane purchaser, as essential "Pre-Purchase Inspection" video - those Cessna Twins guys really know there stuff. Thanks Jimmy.
There is no such thing as a pre-purchase inspection, only a pre buy exam
everybody buys your experience😢
My step-grandfather, an accomplished Bush pilot who owned an FBO had among other planes a beautiful 310. I once asked him why he rarely flew it and he said... "I'm afraid of it" .
Not a problem Jimmy, the wife can always get a second or third job. Silas is old enough to hold down a couple of jobs by now as well.
Yeah send Silas to mow lawn for bucks ^^
@@BruceCarbonLakeriver I think "Pool boy" pays better!! 😁
I hear coal mines in China are still a viable career for underaged children 😂
@@eagle2019 Oh, yes maybe xD
@@eagle2019pool boy in Florida is definitely the better job than Lawn Boy. Jimmy needs to find him a pool boy job on Wisteria Lane and then he will become Pool Man by summers end 🤣!
FYI: Wisteria Lane is the name of the road the desperate housewives live on!
Ladies and gentlemen, Jimmy has to be one of the most honest people i have ever seen. He is
not hiding anything and has put it all out there for everyone to see. well done jimmy. Sleep on
it and take your time with the decision. you will make the right one.
Hang in there Jimmy, God isn't finished with you yet. Shalom
From "Save the 310" to just send me money so I can have a nice airplane pretty much sums up the channel now. Sorry that's how I feel at this point.
I 100% agree. I thought it was cool he bought the Elvis Jet and all the other plane revivals but honestly his channel has more of a gimme gimme rather than the wholesome content we used to get.
Jimmy, The Alclad is the pure aluminum, and its on the outside to protect the aluminum alloy of the sheet metal. FYI. Thanks for your content. Its still the best!!
If anybody can fix it, you can!...
I am a Metallurgists, free aluminum is 99% and pure aluminum is actually less than that. 100% aluminum would be to soft for any structural form.
First time I have seen the reality of aircraft ownership shown on UA-cam. And it was on Jimmys World, no less.
*Watching this video makes me so glad I did not purchase this airplane!*
[note: I am not a pilot. Rather poor, too, but still glad 🙂]
I've been there ,bought a couple bad ones , boy oh boy ..what a sick feeling.. I would not buy old junk like this ever. Part it out..! Not worth fixing !
Incredible A&I. Very fortunate to find a inspector/ mechanic like this gentleman
Eh, yes man. As pilot and apprentice AME I have worked with some amazing AMEs. This aircraft might sell for ~$250,000usd when repaired ?
THE most beautiful machine ever…a functional masterpiece work of art. The polished aluminum just accentuates every beautiful line.
Normally when I take a stroll through Jimmy’s World, it starts with a buzzing in my ears, a swirling mysterious fog, and an insatiable need to watch the video; followed by a serene satisfaction of having spent a wonderful time with Jimmy. But this video was a bit different. While the buzzing and the fog was there, the visit was a bit different. I felt as if Jimmy took my hand and the two of us wandered back in the past and experienced the first sight of the original 310 all covered in dust in that old barn. We watched the engines start and again felt the excitement and anticipation of what was to come. There was the roller coaster ride with the up’s and downs of success followed by disappointment. Together we felt the elation of finding the Silver Bullet and now the crushing realization of how many issues within that gleaming exterior were waiting to be found. BUT, this is Jimmy’s World and I have learned that sometimes the agony of defeat can sometimes be turned into a win for Jimmy and all of us who experience his world with him. I sincerely hope this is one of those circumstances.
We can surmise we are true Jimmy fans when all of what you say makes complete sense and will draw us back.
Wait for the numbers on the 421. Have a defibrillator nearby .
What a fantastic outfit that company is. Should be model standard for the whole aviation industry. Well done.
The 2 by 4 analogy is a classic....What a gem of a guy!
"I picked a bad day to quit sniffing glue"
Lol
Ouch
Ill reskin it for a beer and some glue
@@goo_rocket5897 🤣🤣🤣👍
This day will change the way Jimmy inspects the future planes he buys.
good all around.
Well S T. Everyone makes ! Mistakes! Still a lovely very old Aircraft
I am not a pilot but I know that if I’m buying say a used car for example I’m making sure that it’s inspected thoroughly Given the age of this plane, and what could be wrong I’m stunned Jimmy didn’t have this done. What am I missing.
Hopefully he never loads up his kid and takes one of these sketchy aircraft on a flight again.
@@bigdmister The guys a multi millionaire who can easily afford to fix this aircraft. Everything you see in the videos is scripted. He buys these planes to make content. He has them inspected and knows the problems. The guy isn't dumb. His goofy persona is an ACT he plays a character for the channel
Jimmy, I want to compliment you on your honesty; addressing these problems instead of hiding them may very well have saved lives. My hat’s off to you.
Decades ago the company I worked for as a newly minted A&P did an annual inspection on the same type of 310 with the augmented exhaust. The engine exhaust blew through the stainless tubes and ate through about 30% of the spar. The plane had been flying that way. I found it. My boss called the local FAA FSDO mx and had him come look at it. The plane got condemned. We eventually had to cut the wings off and it was a parts plane. I remember it had good engines and props. I’m glad I’m retired now.
dont fly really old airplanes😢
They couldn't replace the spar?
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24It's not that easy. You're talking about rebuilding roughly 1/3 of the airplane. Probably wouldn't be economically feasible .
@@DblIre I've worked on spar replacements for commercial passenger jets compared to that a Cessna twin is a simple Kite. That said I can see how the cost may be higher than the aircrafts market value. My big question is why didn't I inspections catch the exhaust leak way before it torched a spar?
Hi Jimmy, welcome to my world with saving the 340. I’m in my plane about twice what I could sell it for. Having said that….it is mechanically and structurally in excellent condition now. Having said that……there are still things….really expensive things that can and may well go on in the future. Kinda like an old bulldozer. You can break 10 grand worth of stuff just walking by and looking at it sideways. Here is the bottom line. If you don’t trust the machine, don’t keep it! What’s it worth to you, ($$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$) to gain that trust?
I am a 23,000 hour DC-10 guy who’s retirement gig is flying an air tanker. I love to fly! I can’t imagine any other job or hobby. I should have dumped the 340 but I didn’t. Shame on me. It’s a great flying plane, (now $$$$$$) and I’m just not going to look back. My advice is salvage out the 310. That one won’t pan out. Good luck with the 421. They are a joy to fly once you can trust the machine. You are a rock star in my book Jimmy!
Absolutely spot on advice. Just what I saw in this one vid said salvage it. Some “money pits” you just need to walk away from. I’ve done it on a few very expensive cars over the years. My biggest (thought process) mistake was to keep thinking back to what it cost new and what a new one would cost now. Big mistake. The years go by and mechanical systems wear out. Don’t let that “barn find” kill your finances😏💸
@@Kevin19700and even expensive cars can be kept running on a shoestring budget and won't necessarily kill you, if you keep steering and brakes in check. Complex aircraft require more attention, if you want to live a long life.
The comment about an A&P who has time to put into this stuck out. That might be the solution and could possibly fetch more money than parting it out and there is a much better chance the plan will live on.
Kinda like my Harley. Just add 3 zeros to any repair. Geeeeez
With older airplanes it is common to be unable to recover the costs of deferred maintenance or most improvements
That 310 is a flying museum piece! Keep it going! Such a beautiful plane.
Actually, a one-time ferry flight to a museum may be a good option, preserve the aircraft and use it as a tax write off.
14 on Trade a plane. Check the market value.
As a GA Pilot I used to think these videos were a distasteful way of earning money of aviation tragedies. However, after watching more of your videos I have noticed myself becoming increasingly more aware of my own shortcomings in areas I need to improve my skills and training. I have no doubt your efforts are bearing fruit and making a difference in Aviation safety. As sad as it is to hear about these tragedies, it would be even sadder if they died in vain and the aviation community failed to learn from their loss. Thank you for your work!
God Bless you all.
🙏
Man, I love airframe repairs. The satisfaction of finding and repairing the various issues. The specialization one can develop learning a certain model or type is simply invaluable.
The Cessna twins are a flock of really good-looking aircraft. Always liked them since a boy.
General Aviation. The most expensive way to die.
Only if you don’t know what you are doing. Every problem found in this video should have been caught before he bought the plane. He should have had a 310 specialist do a pre buy inspection. I’ve been doing this close to 30 years and before UA-cam, you never saw people buying planes without pre buy inspections.
@@adamr9215now it’s all about views. Ppl make so much that it pays for itself
Yes, unfortunately that’s pretty much what is left to it. Insanely expensive because of tighter and tighter regulation, but it is also getting more and more dangerous, partly because regulation is a giant gatekeeper against technology and the proliferation needed to keep cost down. What is left is rich people flying around in old, uncomfortable junk about to die. This was not supposed to be this way. We need to start over.
Not even close, gen5 military, is SO much more expensive.
@@johnnunn8688 Yes. F22s and F35s are still ahead of a used 1973 Cessna 172, but the gap is tightening. I did the math, they will cost the same in 2032.
Fix it and fly it!!!🆒😎👍! All life comes to an end . And then we must carry on
Lots of good lessons for any prospective owners. Metal, wood, cloth, fiberglass - like a boat they always need work and picking the right project for you is the question. Upholstery and paint are the easy ones.
Thanks for showing the ups and downs of plane ownership. Also the importance of plane maintenance and storage.
Jimmy, my heart wants to see the Silver Bullet fixed and flying, but my brain says a $125,000 isn't economical. Plus, the fact that one of the engines will soon need an overhaul. The only hope would be to set up a gofund me for it and hope enough of us would throw in enough money to keep it going. Good luck! The video was very enlightening.
Sometimes there's cool stuff that needs to be kept going against all logic and expense. , this might be one of them. It's a beautiful classic.
Glad Jimmy is getting the 310 looked at. Every time I hear about a 310 crashing it always makes me wonder.
Jimmy, I'm really sorry to hear this news. As an American living in England, I've always found a time of rest and enjoyment watching your videos. Especially when you found the silver 310. We are thankful you are alive and well after your inflight scary ordeal. Thank you once again for your enlightening videos and fun sense of humour! An unexpected $110.000 would put a dampener on any happy-go-lucky person's day. We are glad you are safe and sound sir! Looking forward to your future videos regarding this project. Take care!
Depends on the resale value.
Jimmy, it makes me sad to see the difficulties being encountered on this aircraft. Surely, the expense to get this girl up to snuff is a real choker. Keep in mind that having broadcast the damage assessment, it will serve as evidence in case the 310 continues flight. Any incident investigation will certainly refer to this video as knowledge of the various deficiencies in the structure. That is the cold, hard fact of restoration. God bless you, Jimmy. You've got a really difficult decision to make about the Silver Bullets future. The possibilities truly break my heart. I love these old birds. But reality is reality.
I feel for you, Jimmy. When I had my 421, I had many similar conversations with Tony and Marla. Always painful, but always knew I had a safe aircraft. Good luck on deciding what to do with the 310. I hope you don't have similar conversations with the 421...But, these are old airplanes......and still lot's of fun!
I too have had similar conversations with Tony & Marla. They did the prepurchase, which later turned into an annual on my Twin Cessna. Mine needed the side brace kits installed. My annual was $30k+
Jimmy, I'd donate to a museum and take the write off before I'd part it out, but that's me. I can understand your passion, a lot of blood sweat and tears goes in to taking and older plane and doing the best you can to make it look and fly well. Sorry the news was so tough, but I had a feeling when I started watching. Good luck on your decision my friend.
Gosh darn Jimmy and I was just getting ready to buy it. Well good luck with whatever you're going to do with it. You're the man.❤
Maybe I don’t want an airplane.
....that 310 would make a GREAT roof ornament for your garage....
A very large weather vane.
@@larrytaylor7753 I was going to say the same thing. Build a structural steel pole with bearings and an attachment frame for the aircraft.
it'll look bad very soon and nobody is going to put in ten grand every couple of years just to keep it shiny.
Priceless education during this hour and a half. Thanks for posting and thanks to the TAS crew for not holding any punches.
She's a classic and rare. We all started with save the 310 lets keep going .Rally support to fix her then auction her off and get the next going , we are in it for jimmy's world adventures.
If you own or are thinking about a Twin Cessna going to one of Tony's seminars is a MUST
The cladding is 1100 series alloy. It is rolled onto the substrate material in the mill at high temperature while the sheet is being rolled out from a block of substrate with a plate of clad material on the top and bottom. I would guess the substrate is 24-T3 which is an obsolete material that is equivalent to today's 2024-T3. 2000 series aluminum the primary alloying element is copper. 1000 series aluminum is nearly pure aluminum. what you see in the corrosion is where the clad material was chipped exposing the substrate. The substrate is protected from corrosion by the clad. This is why it is important to clear Alodine after polish. Save the 310, the sequel.
I remember back many years ago when I first joined the USAF, and my first permanent assignment was on F101Bs. I was assigned as assistant crew chief on our Commander's plane. None of our planes were painted, and my plane had to really outshine the rest. We used Nevr-dull, and if you think polishing your 310 was tough, you should try polishing one of the largest jet fighters ever made by McDonnell.
Now THIS is the most accurate, and REAL depiction of Twin Ownership, nay AIRCRAFT ownership I have seen...Kudos!
After watching a number of your UA-cam videos, I'm convinced I'd need to win a Billion dollar Powerball just to afford the maintenance on a small single engine Cessna. This was a tough one Jimmy.
I have met a lot of airplane poor people.
Form an LLC and get a group of folks like you to fix the 310. Shared ownership
Best suggestion !!
Yeah! I'm sure lots of people would love to help work on it! I would definitely donate some money! The aircraft is still in pretty good condition.
Why on earth would anyone else buy into that?
@@chuckschillingvideos because they don't want this plane to be abandoned.
@@JD96893 There's nothing special about this 310 as opposed to any other than Jimmy stupidly purchased it without having a prepurchase inspection performed by a competent mechanic.
It is one of the most informal video/interview I've seen in a long time. Thank you for sharing 💯💯💯💯
So much better aviation content than the Elvis jet conversion.
Hey Jimmy my suggestion is get out while you can, have all work stopped auction it off as a project plane only!
SAVE THE 310 Jimmy !!
You have to, you can’t abandon her now !! She’s worthy ! She’s a classic!
Since I was a kid many, many decades ago (I was seven when your 310 was built) I have loved the 310. Sky King...310....310 one of the most beautiful in my book. This episode has been difficult, not as difficult as for you but still difficult. If I were only rich. I
don't live that far from you (Land O Lakes, FL) I would love to come see it. You have turned it into such a beautiful example.
Wow! Great channel. I maintained many, many, many of these old twin Cessna's when they weren't old. Great videos. Nostalgia city.
Jimmy, this brings back A LOT of memories. Worked on 310/320 nose gear mounted Avionics. Left the nose gear doors unlatched and customer flew it. Retracted nose gear thru blown shut nose gear doors. Unjammed the gear and got it back to maintenance. As the Avionics Tech, I was not blamed. Pilot should have caught loose nose gear doors on pre-flight. That was one first employment. Second employment at (Burlington) Northern Airmotive Mpls. MN. Became autopilot and Pitot Static tester specialist. Fixed all kinds of Autopilots (many flight tests) and Pitot Static systems. New Cessna A/C leaked liked sivs. Once I got done, they stayed leak free. Many maintenance issue fixed singles and multi-engines. Many different autopilots.
The dumbfounded "is the tail/nose/xyz going to fall off??" gets quite annoying over and over again
It’s so beautiful. It’s a show pony. The cost is insignificant if you love it. It will always attract attention at shows and everyone will know it’s Jimmy’s World and where to find you. Keep the dream alive…alternatively, it should be mothballed and put into a museum until a future buyer comes along to save her. It’ll be fine…
Jimmy this was a great, thank you for sharing, I really appreciated your extended patience when getting the run down on the turbo exhausts. I really enjoyed the precision and logic of the engineers’ (sorry lost his name) explanation.
I hope to see more of this detailed realism videos again thank you for sharing your passion and intermittent pain.
Emil
Wow Jim that was a really brilliant video, I can understand your dilemma regarding the cost of the repairs to the 310, it will be sad if she never flies again, but $120,000+ is a lot of money.
Stay safe.
I wonder if you could list it for Sale everywhere and include the video. Sell her payment before repair. Maybe worth $250K.
Apparently owning a certified vintage aircraft is another way to financial depletion.
Very informative and educational video for individuals thinking about buying old aircraft. It was very straightforward of Jimmy to take it to the best Cessna twin shop for a “pre-auction” inspection. He had to know there was no way a rather rough 70 year old plane was not going to escape that shop without at least two or three serious issues being found which would be costly. And putting it out there for everyone to see says so much about him as person. If he sells it the buyer knows exactly what is up with this A/C.
I’m looking forward to see what happens to this 310. With this A/C having what is basically a restoration done, someone can finish it with new interior and avionics and have a really nice antique A/C thats still versatile and flyable. Costly - sure - but all this work really makes it viable for many many years.
I appreciate anyone that keeps these beautiful pieces of history in flying condition.
The way I look at it is you can always buy a new one! With everything fixed just add it to the selling price. A new Barron is close to two million. Heck a loaded 172 is half million. You can get another one that is “airworthy “ and start all over again. You know that plane, fix it, keep it if you can’t sell it.
SAVE THE 310 Jimmy!
WOW Jimmy. . . .what a gut punch.
HOWEVER.... its a great video with a realistic look at what it will take if preventive maintenance was not embraced.
May God Bless the outcome and you land on your feet.
So beautiful in natural metal. Stunning.
Jimmy, I feel for you brother.
Trevor Jacob would be more then happy to test fly your plane and film it for his youtube channel. of course you'll have to go drag the pieces out of the mountains after he bails out once again just for views and subs. LOL
😂
I look back to all of the antique aircraft I have flown in, and worked on and I am in awe of the dedication of those who restore them for the sake of the generations that otherwise would have never seen them in the air. I have been up in a 1929 TavelAire elephant ear bi-plane, up over Orcas Island in Puget Sound. It was an anniversary flight for my second wife when we flew to Seattle to take the ferry up to Vancouver BC. We stopped overnight on the island and stayed at the historic hotel (are you noticing a trend here?), and saw an advert for a sightseeing flight, so we jumped at the chance! The owner and restorer was a retired US Navy pilot, and he took us on a tour of the islands up there, and then he put on some classical music as he lazily rolled through the clouds. It was quite extraordinary. Oh, back to my list, an Airecoupe, a Piper J-3 ( my dad owned them when I was a little boy, but I took flight as an adult), a number of K2 Kaydet Stearman biplanes, and others, of which my memory has lost track of, sadly. I have worked on a P-51 (installed a water injection system) and a North American Mitchell B-25, of which I redrew all the updated avionics and electrical mods for the FAA, so it could be certified airworthy. The biggest complement I got was from that inspector, who said "no, I don't want to see the original wiring diagrams, I want to see what you've done!". To which the owner replied "look at the dates". I had redone them all in the style and fonts of WWII schematics. Made my day!
G'day Mr Jimmy,
WOW what an emotional video, and I'm talking about me. But you've left me hanging.
But thankyou for sharing another video on the 310.
✌️ Peace from Melbourne Australia.
OHHHHHHHHHH JIMMY! Dang brother!
Jimmy is a gentlemen 10:43 giving the mechanics flashlight back to him as soon as he was done using it. It's those little things that makes a big difference.
Great video and I have to say, I’ve not seen many people who can give bad news so honestly but with such compassion.
As far as repair costs go, as a business you have to weigh up cost versus value. Those who are ‘happy’ to pay these bills aren’t looking at the value of the aircraft, they’re doing it for the passion and love of owning AND continued ownership such a beautiful aircraft.
You have to ask yourself, is this a business proposition or a family heirloom….
Don't love something that don't love you back. Great acting.
I had a Cessna 172 once that I had $120.000 into. When I sold it, it sold for half that. You never make money on selling well maintained aircraft. It always costs more to properly maintain it than you will ever get out of it.
It's called deferred maintenance. Every airplane has it. Airlines devote entire engineering departments to figuring out how to defer maintenance.
@@jimpalmer1969 No they don't 😂😂😂 airline industry has strict rules regarding maintenance and inspection. It's a totally different ball game to general aviation
I saw this coming when you said you were bringing it to TAS. A lot of deterioration happens in the 60+ year age of these airplanes. You know at the end of the maintance event you will have one of the best twin Cessnas out there but that peace of mind does not come cheap.
Another great video!
Your channel is addictive and I really hope this one will be back in the skies soon.
Jimmy, I know I said this in a comment on a different video, but I flew to Sacramento drove to Auburn and looked at that 310. Unfortunately (or now fortunately) covid was happening and I was unsure about my future employment so I couldn’t pull the trigger and buy that plane. I still think it’s a great plane, and I’m glad to see you bringing it back to life. I know you’ll be the one person who’ll be able to figure out a way to scrounge $125,000 to Save The 310.
Very cool! small world!
Jimmy you are a nut! A nice nut, but a nut just the same😅
I like 310s too but, I think you should cut your losses man IMHO ok
How much did it sell for?
Maybe Mike Patey would buy it as the ornament for his new FBO.
You know he'd just rebuild it out of carbon fibre and bolt up some PT -6s
A polished aluminum airplane is one of the most beautiful finishes you can get. Your 310 is gorgeous. I am sure you will come up with some type of plan to save her. Like you said, it is about the memories it has and will continue to create. I served with the Air Force for 37 years (21 Active Duty and 16 as a Civil Service mechanic). I worked on F-15's (A-E models) some of which were built before I graduated from high school (1980) and U-2's which were very old. Of course, I am comparing apples to oranges with this analogy, but old airplanes can be maintained and kept airworthy. I agree with bingwrite7099. It is nice to see maintainers get some spotlight. I really hope you are able to find the means to keep this airplane airworthy.
Really really enjoyed it jimmy ,what a great bunch of blokes ,i hope all works out
As an addendum, I’m so glad my aircraft is a homebuilt wooden aircraft called a Corby Starlet. Aluminium and corrosion is not a concern.
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Wood airplanes have their own set of concerns that make aluminum look down right trouble free
@@flyluv737I own both and would pick a cloth and wood plane any day over aluminum.
@@adamr9215 I’ve had both too… leave them both outside for a year and then get back to me.
@@flyluv737 I wouldn’t do that to either. If you do, you shouldn’t own a plane.
A priceless heart-breaking eye opener, Jimmy. No used airplanes for me (once I win the Power-Ball). It'll be a brand-spanking new King Air.
Best video so far…thanks for the numbers.
That still didn't answer our questions.
Jimmy.
time to sell it to rebuild rescue!
So sorry to hear all that. On the upside: Marla was probably the sweetest person with the most pleasant and soothing voice that you could hope for breaking the news to you. 😉
I feel for you Jimmy. I don’t know how you sustain your “hobby” monetarily. I must keep watching. Good luck! Love your channel dude.
Jimmy, u did the right thing. Where's the GoFundMe?
This company is amazing. Great to see an organisation that really knows its onions.
Perhaps you could do a re-run of the Elvis Jet and convert it to something else? I nominate a nuclear submarine...
Are you an expert on the Cessna 310?
Not at all but I enjoyed watching the expert assessment.
Looks like a good MRO. All the staff did a great job detailing and explaining their findings. This airplane has now received a complete and accurate Annual Inspection. Sorry about the shock of it but it's a good education for you
Beautiful, elegant and organic like vintage sport cars. For looks the matte finish is also pretty special and smooth. Keep it alive somehow! :)
Looking around the horizontal stabilizer is between 1000-5000 used, and swapping it out is something you could do under A&P supervision (AKA how you do much of your work originally) The nose I would have them fix. The cracks behind the engines I would think can be stopped drilled and patched. The things like polishing off the burs and marks off the spar, can be done as you have with A&P supervision. I mean reskinning it isn't that difficult, it is something you and your team could also do, it is no more complicated than any vans airplane in assembly, assuming your A&P has the experience and willing to do it.
Honestly I would not ferry it with the cracked skin on the tail. I'm not sure what the other "bee stings" are but I'm guessing most are not grounding issues and can be moved to watch list or done by your team.
This I think is why so many owners are afraid of taking a plane to a shop like this, it is far too easy to mechanically total it.
I've had two Twin Cessna's including a 421C and there is no one I would have work on them other than Tony!!!
@@eagle2019 And you'll pay the price. The next owner will thank you.
@@MikeCris I really don't care about the next owner. I know that when I and my family board the aircraft and I hit those start switches, my aircraft is in the best condition it can be and is safe! The first time you take a "new to you" aircraft for its annual, you will pay a high price for all the differed maintenance the previous owners skipped or were unaware of because the shop was not experienced in the make and model. Subsequent annuals are no where near as expensive.
Hopefully someone could donate the necessary parts and Jimmy's crew could replace them.