I OFFENDED Voices.com. And Here’s WHY…

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  • Опубліковано 20 лип 2024
  • Subscribe now at: www.youtube.com/@vo-pro?sub_c... In my last video, My (No Gear) Voice Over Christmas Wish List, one of my wishes was this:
    “I wish all of the pay-to-plays were ethical, but the chief offender here, of course, is Voices.com, but they're certainly not the only ones that put profit before talent and clients. These companies control a huge amount of work globally in the voiceover business, and it's a travesty to me that rather than seeing themselves as leaders and stewards of our industry, they couldn't give a reindeer turd about anything else other than putting profit ahead of people, clients and talent.”
    The next day, I got an email from David Ciccarelli, the Founder and CEO of Voices.com, and he’s NOT happy.
    Chapters:
    0:00 - 0:40 My Wish
    0:40 - 1:24 David Ciccarelli's Email
    1:24 - 1:54 A Point I Won't Dispute
    1:54 - 3:20 The Joe Paterno Story
    3:20 - 5:14 The Facts
    5:14 - 8:29 How Voices Can Improve
    8:29 - 8:47 Talk Is Cheap
    8:47 - 9:08 Thanks and Close
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 94

  • @CraigWilliamsVoiceover
    @CraigWilliamsVoiceover Рік тому +21

    What a very dignified and well thought out response Paul. Bravo!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, my friend. Much appreciated.

  • @Penelope416
    @Penelope416 Рік тому +9

    I like how you held them accountable, but offered solutions to help them become a better company.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks for noticing, Penelope. ❤

  • @narratorjamesvo
    @narratorjamesvo Рік тому +1

    Paul, once again I thank you for your outstanding workmanship and very thorough explanations. After watching this video, I was reminded of my time in the Army as a Staff Sergeant. We had a creed that is to be not just memorized, but lived by as well; the NCO Creed. It is comprised of three paragraphs, and I believe is also very applicable to civilian life as well. If more CEO's like David adhered to its principles, companies would be more efficient. The following is a selection from that very creed, and I feel it parallels what you are sharing with us in this video:
    "I will not use my grade or position to attain pleasure, profit, or personal safety. Competence is my watchword. My two basic responsibilities will always be uppermost in my mind-accomplishment of my mission and the welfare of my Soldiers. I will strive to remain technically and tactically proficient. I am aware of my role as a noncommissioned officer. I will fulfill my responsibilities inherent in that role. All Soldiers are entitled to outstanding leadership; I will provide that leadership. I know my Soldiers and I will always place their needs above my own. I will communicate consistently with my Soldiers and never leave them uninformed. I will be fair and impartial when recommending both rewards and punishment."
    If any NCO did not fulfill his or her roles according to the creed, then they were held accountable and future infractions were met with reduction in rank and pay.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Having a creed means his deep and clear why. Thanks for the kind words, for sharing this with us, and most importantly, for your service, sir.

  • @SusheelChandradhas
    @SusheelChandradhas Рік тому +7

    Paul, this is such a clear and well-thought-out response. You have my respect and thanks.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks so much, Susheel. Very sweet of you.

  • @MichaelVernyVO
    @MichaelVernyVO Рік тому +1

    Very clear and concise. I particularly like how you list off the actionable items that can be followed while doing it in a "matter of fact" tone. Thank you for all you do in support of this fantastic community.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      And thanks for watching and contributing, Michael.

  • @BegleBoothStudios
    @BegleBoothStudios Рік тому +2

    Thank you Paul, for being a righteous voice and bright light of inspiration and help for all of us voice actors.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      You’re very kind, Nate.

  • @fowziyyahthepoet1074
    @fowziyyahthepoet1074 5 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very much for this information. You just saved me $500 and a world of unnecessary drama. I was feeling sceptical about spending that much money and not really understanding what's really going on.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  5 місяців тому

      Anytime.

  • @layahoffman
    @layahoffman Рік тому

    Much respect Paul, your clear and concise commentary echos my own frustration with this platform. Thank you for putting it out in the world.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks so much, Laya. You’re a pro’s pro and it means a lot coming from you. You’re super kind to reach out.

  • @TrayDyer38
    @TrayDyer38 Рік тому

    717 subscribers in 6 months! That takes a lot of hustle. Your a machine!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, KD. I’m very fortunate to receive the support that I have.

  • @wavstudionet
    @wavstudionet Рік тому

    4:07 Paul's dog felt the impact of his words.

  • @karliwalker7572
    @karliwalker7572 Рік тому

    So well said, Paul 👏 thank you for not only detailing the offenses but offering actionable solutions 🤩

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      It’s my pleasure, Karli.

  • @sharondurkee9770
    @sharondurkee9770 Рік тому

    Hi, Paul:. I just found this video and it was extraordinarily insightful. I worked in voice over back in the 90's, when we had reel to reel and the client would come in, tell me what they wanted, and we'd knock it out together in the studio. This new realm has thrown me for a loop. Every point you made is something that I, a newbie to this new age of voice over noticed. Jobs that pay $5, scam artists whom, after I've submitted an audition, offer me a "full time narrator" position. All I need to do is contact a "manager" at a fake email address. This will be my second business that I've started, and I now plan to go after it as I did in the past.....through personal contact and creative marketing. Thank you again for providing this valuable information.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Best of luck, Sharon. Let me know if I can help.

  • @TerryDanielVoiceoverTutorials
    @TerryDanielVoiceoverTutorials Рік тому +1

    Another stellar video, Paul! Thank you for not being afraid to speak out!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      I appreciate that, Terry. Thanks for your support and for the kind words.

  • @BrianNordinVO
    @BrianNordinVO Рік тому

    Nicely stated, Paul. If VDC were to implement the actions you've laid out, I'd consider returning. However, based on past actions, I don't expect any of those items you mentioned to happen. And it's a shame, too, as VDC is a monster in our industry and could be a major force for good if they chose to be.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      My point exactly, Brian. Thanks for watching and contributing to the conversation.

  • @SuzD0n
    @SuzD0n Рік тому

    Found this video via the voice acting community over on Reddit. Brilliantly put. Thank you for posting this.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks for the kind words and for letting me know, Suz. I’m not on Reddit so I wonder who posted it there. Whoever it was, I’m grateful.

    • @SuzD0n
      @SuzD0n Рік тому

      @@vo-pro there's a few VA/VO communities over there, (reasonably friendly) and we always benefit from the voice of of experience. And share quality content, of course.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      That’s great to know. I’m not historically a Reddit guy, but I’ll have to delve. Thanks for the heads up, Suz. I really really appreciate it. 😊

  • @ConnorQuinnvo
    @ConnorQuinnvo Рік тому

    Well thought out and solid presentation. Thank you for posting, Paul.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      And thanks for watching, Connor.

  • @jonathongrant2857
    @jonathongrant2857 Рік тому

    This is excellent. It's curious why so many people are offended by being accused of what they are doing.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Often, it’s posturing. They know damned right well what they’re doing. Thanks for the kind words and for contributing, Jonathan.

  • @DiabolicalAngel
    @DiabolicalAngel 6 місяців тому +1

    Whew, what an elegant takedown! Well done, Paul.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  6 місяців тому

      Thanks. 👊

  • @portiacue5320
    @portiacue5320 Рік тому

    Paul, you are a sparkling gem to our industry. 👌🏿👏🏽🌹

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      You’re very kind, Portia. Thank you.

  • @BannerSound
    @BannerSound Рік тому +2

    Joe Paterno AND Bill Cosby....

  • @davidgilbertvo
    @davidgilbertvo Рік тому +1

    Just seeing this amazing breakdown today, Paul!! I'm curious what/if any response you received from David.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      None.

    • @davidgilbertvo
      @davidgilbertvo Рік тому +1

      @@vo-pro Didn't expect to hear a response. Very well articulated. I've always felt that any P2P model that continues to accept membership fees when there are fewer jobs than talent so there will always be VA's who sign up and never get work. Giving an agent a commission on work is one thing. Charging for it would be another. Regardless, they're here and not going away. So it's now just picking the better ones and moving on.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      @@davidgilbertvo I agree but the larger issue is the commoditization of the work and the need to educate talent on knowing what the work is worth and standing up for it/not accepting shitty rates. 👍

    • @davidgilbertvo
      @davidgilbertvo Рік тому +1

      @@vo-pro True. Rates are both a buyer and seller education issue as well. Can't change the minds of those who don't care, only those who don't know. This should be a key priority of any voice actor community/union/membership organization. Just like we used to see Smokey the Bear do PSA's, we need a coordinated campaign to educate people to what it truly takes to be a good voice actor, why it costs what it does, and the benefits to the buyers. Clearly. Succinctly. And powerfully. Doing it one by one is fine, but it will take a looooong time that way.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      @@davidgilbertvo I agree and am actively working on that. 👍

  • @seansiegler
    @seansiegler Рік тому

    The fact that talent can't actually develop and build relationships with clients on VDC is what does it for me. If they actually cared about talent, they would let that happen. I left VDC earlier this year and will never go back (unless your huge list of changes actually happens.)

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting, Sean. My list isn’t huge. It’s only 5 items. And there’s actually been some movement I wasn’t aware of. Stay tuned for this week’s video.

  • @larrywalsh6185
    @larrywalsh6185 Рік тому

    Nicely done Paul! You ROCK as an industry leader!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      You’re super kind to say that, Larry. Thanks.

  • @mrbensvoicebox
    @mrbensvoicebox Рік тому

    Hi Paul. Why not take it a step further and open a competing company under the moral and ethical points you so well outlined? I for one would be happy to be involved. in the setup.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Thanks, Ben. Others already have. Cast Voices, VO Planet, and Bodalgo are all run ethically.

  • @RomisDIYProjects
    @RomisDIYProjects Рік тому +1

    Paul.. G.O.A.T.! Paul for President!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, Romi, but I have no desire to be president of anything. 😊

  • @douglasparks8430
    @douglasparks8430 Рік тому

    Brassies. Kudos. It needed to be said, Paul.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, Douglas.

  • @HolmesVoice
    @HolmesVoice Рік тому

    Extremely well said. Thank you.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Glad it was helpful, David.

  • @brucespargo
    @brucespargo Рік тому

    Paul have you had any response from Voices?

  • @pavilu
    @pavilu Рік тому

    Very well said indeed!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, Pavi. 😊

  • @voiceofferlon
    @voiceofferlon Рік тому

    Well done Paul, well done!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, Ferlon. 👍

  • @scottburns9350
    @scottburns9350 Рік тому

    Ka-💥!! Well put Paul!

  • @artokeefe1262
    @artokeefe1262 Рік тому +1

    Well Done!!!! Bravo!!!!!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, brother.

  • @brettcollin3693
    @brettcollin3693 Рік тому

    Good to know as someone just starting out...

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      That’s the whole point. 😊

  • @nevinstoltz
    @nevinstoltz Рік тому

    Amen Paul!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thank you, Nevin.

  • @AlexMisiti
    @AlexMisiti Рік тому

    Great video, Paul!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      Many thanks, Alex.

  • @KayBess
    @KayBess Рік тому

    SO good. Thank you.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thank you, Kay. As always, you’re very kind.

  • @jonathandgardner8435
    @jonathandgardner8435 Рік тому

    I wanted to stand up and cheer.

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks, Jon. When I stand up, no one can tell. 🤣

  • @kristinkirby1362
    @kristinkirby1362 Рік тому

    Jumping up and down!!

  • @NCCME
    @NCCME Рік тому

    We’ll said, Paul.

  • @WolfWilliamsVO
    @WolfWilliamsVO Рік тому

    Now that's a gauntlet throw for your behind.

  • @gsuttonvo
    @gsuttonvo Рік тому

    Nailed it.

  • @soundattention
    @soundattention Рік тому

    Hear hear!!!!

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, Patrick. Hope to see you this weekend.

    • @soundattention
      @soundattention Рік тому

      @@vo-pro I'll be cheering on, remotely! (My category is a "hallway award" anyhow... as in, "Head on out to the hallway for a happy snap with a trophy")

    • @vo-pro
      @vo-pro  Рік тому +1

      @@soundattention So is mine, but I've never been so I'm going to just have fun.

    • @soundattention
      @soundattention Рік тому

      @@vo-pro Can't wait to see your pics from the red carpet!

  • @joywest1078
    @joywest1078 Рік тому

    BOOM!

  • @troyholdenvoices
    @troyholdenvoices Рік тому

    Bullseye