How Bad Therapy Can Make Things Worse (ft. Abigail Shrier)

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  • Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
  • Originally published on April 10, 2024.
    If the story of humanity is about loss, privation, suffering, and resilience, why are kids having nervous breakdowns about bad grades?
    In today’s episode, I talked to Abigail Shrier about what parents and mental health experts are inadvertently doing to rob young people of the resilience and grit that past generations had.
    It’s a spicy one. Enjoy.
    Abigail Shrier received the Barbara Olson Award for Excellence and Independence in Journalism in 2021. Her best-selling book, Irreversible Damage: The Transgender Craze Seducing Our Daughters (2020), was named a “Best Book” by The Economist and the Times (of London). It has been translated into ten languages.
    She holds an A.B. from Columbia College, where she received the Euretta J. Kellett Fellowship; a B.Phil. from the University of Oxford; and a J.D. from Yale Law School.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 19

  • @robsingh892
    @robsingh892 3 дні тому +10

    The sweeping generalities made in this interview about trauma, therapy, therapists, people etc are laughable. The 2024 version of pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Yikes.

    • @shainapunim
      @shainapunim 2 дні тому

      Yeah, irresponsible and… uninformed.

  • @gotakay3675
    @gotakay3675 День тому

    thank you, nice talk!

  • @Merzui-kg8ds
    @Merzui-kg8ds 2 дні тому +2

    Very confusing points from Ms Shrier. I taught Social Emotional Learning. Although I think it could be improved, it is odd to suggest that a response of "I'm happy" means "there is nothing to talk about". She cautions against sweeping generalizations in therapeutic approaches by using sweeping generalizations.

  • @alicealecu4509
    @alicealecu4509 3 дні тому +1

    I have five kids, this is reassuring to hear because this is exactly how I've been feeling abt the whole western trend towards therapy. It also helped being born and raised in a communist country, and having gone through everything that came w it. And even those hard experiences we saw it as life back then, and we moved on and conquered. But it was all thanks to our parents who downplayed everything and believed in us and our own capacities. Trying to to instill that in my us suburbia raised kids

    • @niksatan
      @niksatan 3 дні тому

      you can try, but your kids are being raised by different culture

    • @alicealecu4509
      @alicealecu4509 2 дні тому

      @@niksatanand if that culture is struggling I'm supposed to use the tools that have worked for me to give them a boost. They're already stronger and more resilient than their peers because we don't cater to every request and negative feeling they have.

  • @PeterZeeke
    @PeterZeeke 3 дні тому +2

    While I appreciate this video is really criticising middle class parents that put their kinds through unnecessary therapy, its worth remembering that some people are effected by adverse childhood... those tend NOT to be kids sent to therapy by their parents, but people who could benefit from it. So its one thing to demonise therapy in your community, but its way more nuanced

    • @alicealecu4509
      @alicealecu4509 2 дні тому

      But you gotta admit it's prescribed way too often nowadays. And by good parents who thinly hats the route they should take .and if it were working, by all means, but it doesn't seem to produce the results they're hoping for. So why not try some old school stuff with a bit of self awareness and empowerment of the individual. Ultimately we're here to figure life out and no one can do that for you.

    • @PeterZeeke
      @PeterZeeke День тому

      @@alicealecu4509 definitely, but they should be more clear about that line of who needs therapy and who doesn’t than just assuming everyone is over prescribing. That’s the actual difficulty in this stuff, the nuance

  • @elansing3095
    @elansing3095 3 дні тому +2

    This is great stuff. As a MH provider and "old" person with many horrible, heartbreaking life experiences (I didn't KNOW that it was trauma, it was just "that's life") the worst of times 100% made me better. Did I like it? No. Did I learn a lot? Had this very discussion at my son's wedding last week. I learned that the lessons are in the messes.

  • @morganejourdain3654
    @morganejourdain3654 День тому

    This interview is a perfect illustration of "throwing the baby out with the bathwater".
    If you want a thorough and very nuanced review of Shrier's work, I highly advise you to watch the video of Dr. Ana on the topic: ua-cam.com/video/-wagZLXs4vs/v-deo.html

  • @dcsteele
    @dcsteele 3 дні тому +1

    Dads with shared custody are boned because of bad therapy

  • @joemartinez7142
    @joemartinez7142 3 дні тому +1

    I tell my kids they'll live every day 😂

  • @teresastankard5340
    @teresastankard5340 3 дні тому

    I wanna hear this ladies thoughts on autism and how parents are being guided and I'm not talking severe autism, I'm talking mostly independent autism.

  • @andrewmorgan3166
    @andrewmorgan3166 2 дні тому

    Another bloody repeat!!

    • @TheSubtleArtofNotGivingaFck
      @TheSubtleArtofNotGivingaFck  2 дні тому

      We're currently migrating old episodes over from the other channel. Old episodes will be posted on Mondays and Fridays until the end of November or so. If you just want to get the new episodes, they come out on Wednesdays and will posted to this playlist, which you can save: ua-cam.com/play/PL7458XEPtDliaIwFzcxv1-PdH0R6RUDiJ.html&si=uE--ALS-fVZdCMst

  • @istvanporter8065
    @istvanporter8065 3 дні тому +1

    First