If You Can't Afford The Honda Africa Twin, Will The ADV150 Make You Just As Happy?
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In this video, Alex takes the new Honda ADV150 scooter off-road to find out if you're just getting looks for your money, or if there's actually some true substance with the Showa suspension.
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As a former scooter commuter who put as much as 600 miles on my bike in a day, to say they’re only good for trips of a few miles is pretty short sighted. Our club would do weekend trips of 100+ miles per day that included bikes as small as 125cc.
TFL has no idea what they're talking about at all. They just spout BS with confidence and carry on. Unfortunately it's a formula that works.
Cool!
I mean, I just (accidentally) made a 70ish mile trip on my 110cc Navi today, so...lol
there's even an edurance race here in asia with those bikes.
He's American. So ...
I'm a very happy ADV150 owner. The Aussie version has dual disc brakes, no park-brake, and an idling stop switch. I've crashed mine once in a patch of sand on a mountain trail, but otherwise it has held up very well during anything I've thrown at it so far. I feel absolutely spoiled by the under-seat storage. I'm a scooter convert now.
Two person tent fits under there
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I like that the manufacturers are bringing more entry level products to market. Its a critical move for the future of moto's as less young people are riding than in the past. To address this trend they need the price point and ease of use to be on the lower end of the spectrum. I think the ADV 150 is a move in the right direction.
They need the dealers to not mark up so much
@@morgan98801 did it have manual ? If so did anyone teach u how to ride ?
I like the PCX 160. I think these things should go 71 mph stock for 4000 dollars
@@rickybobbydastar6534 suspension on ADV is amazing though
@@motohound90 i haven’t had the luxury to ride one yet , I’m still trying to find a few places that have them
On hand
I'm from the US but live in Thailand now , our ADV 150 comes with rear disc brakes and costs about $3,000---$3,300 new. Wish Honda would do an upgrade and make an ADV 300---350
ADV 300 is still in development.
Alex: "How easy this bike is to ride." Me: " but didn't you just crash it a couple days ago?"
Gravel will ditch any bike in the world....
That’s the truth especially on city streets don’t ask me how I know
Unless you're rich anything you own will be easy to drive does that mean you won't crash it. Probably not because eventually you under value it or your completely comfortable in your element. Both dangerous places to be.
0:49 slickest polished concrete ever.
He crashed with no obstacles around in perfect conditions. He shouldn't touch a motorcycle.
I have this bike, done about 5000 kilometers on it.
Had 2 scooters before and a 250 Kawasaki boss motorbike. Not super experienced but an ok rider.
Have to say, the Honda ADV 150 is the best by far.
I bought it in Thailand and have gone on long trips, on very twisty mountain roads, long twisty, and very rough roads. And great LED lights. It really is a fantastic, fun bike to ride, even with a passenger. The bike comes with a rear disk brake in Thailand. Great in town too, . It's never going to compete with a Africa twin, but it isn't meant to.
Very informative and enjoyable. Some reviewers would feel compelled to find fault with the handling and power, in order to prove they are real men. Your comments were based on reasonable expectations. This is clearly an outstanding scooter/bike, and a great value. Thanks.
Phenomenal video guys, I love it. Answered my questions, helped me decide between the PCX and the ADV, gave me the info and perspective I needed, thank you so much!!!
One thing I'd like to see included in your reviews is the coverage the headlights provide at night, low and highbeams. Some bikes, like cars and trucks, have terrible headlights. With LEDs, you'd think it be pretty good.
Noted!
@@TFLbike Been suggesting this to TFL for awhile about at the very least you can display the lights in your garage if you don't want to do night tests. On all vehicles.
Glad you kept the crash in the video. Probably will save some skin on some viewers.
Good lesson given., on wearing the right protection.
that's right, my dad didn't wear protection, so now I'm here
@@Digidi4 That's a different type of dry rider suit ;O)
An additional lesson is, don't be so cocky and think everything is everything. lol Any distraction can lead to a disaster.
In Thailand there is no parking hand brake lock on the ADV-150 or the PCX-160. I think they are imported. The PCX-160 seat is 1” lower and better for commuting on bitumen roads, that caused my Thai lady to choose the PCX-160. My old PCX-150 would wind up to 70 MPH. New one not run in. Both Bikes new, around USD $3,700 with extras on the road, drive away.
The ADV-150 is smoother on the throttle, I think it is higher geared. Both our new bikes came with extras including metal foot plates which really give great foot grip. The worst aspect of scooters is the lack of foot pegs to stand on for balance and handling on rough ground. The second is wheels too small and hard short travel suspension. This is the great improvement of the ADV-150. Superior suspension for rough road handling. The fully automatic CVT transmission makes riding so easy.
I was told the left hand is the dual brake and the right hand is the rear only brake. The lack of ABS on the back allows for handling options on dirt tracks, but I am not an advanced off road rider. I will have to test this. I cannot read my handbook, it is in Thai, ไทย 🇹🇭. No English handbook available.
I’m thinking about getting the PCX160 I like the candy cherry red paint and led lights . Is it true the PCX is real fast if u take the traction control off ?
@@rickybobbydastar6534 My PCX 150cc winds up to 120kph or 75 mph. They are fast to 90 which is our speed limit. I generally do not ride fast. our new PCX 160cc has more go than the 150cc but it is my lady's bike so I haven't opened it up. Thai roads have lots of traffic, from very sow to crazy fast. i think Honda is right to speed limit these bikes, 110 is very fast on one. For a fast highway scooter the Honda Forza 300 is better and more comfortable.
@@bobjuniel8683 thanks for replying, I figured it must be lots of traffic bcuz where u at in Thailand it’s so many bikes, to choose from. I’m getting the PCX 160 or the Kymco 150 spade, I really want to learn how to drive a clutch. Plus the kymco only about 1700. But I’m going to look at a few bikes on Monday or Tuesday I can’t wait
I’ve seen a lot of videos on this ADV and it seems to have a lot of capabilities above my expectations would ever be.
Hard to judge your riding skills and ability to being reasonable on maneuvering of this scooter. It is a scooter and not meant to be ridden in the standing position on floor boards. I expect to get many years of enjoyment from my 2022 Honda ADV 150 using as it was intended.👍
looks like so much fun! + that was a pretty slick transition into the office
I have a new 2022 ADV and just love it. As of Nov 2021 I currently have a little over a 1,000 miles and it has been great. Just traded in my 2009 Yamaha Vino 125 and this new Honda is scooter supreme.👍
It’s an amazing scooter if 150cc is big enough displacement for what you’re trying to do. May be the best one available in that category. Suspension is a dream.
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More to come!
@@TFLbike Lead by good example and stay on the bike.. even the easy ones you forget are so easy to ride. lol
Excellent review. Quick and to the point. Niiiice!
*I think the main rationale behind the 'rear-drum' has more to do w/the potential loss of 'no front-brake' from 'loss of fluid' than anything else*
*You'll still have stopping power with or without the front-brake and in many parts of the World it's difficult to find a repair place or even access to brake-fluid*
I haven't rode a Motor Cycle for over 12 year's and I even let my Driver's Licence expire about 6 year's ago.
Looking at this scooter remind's me of My Y2K Piaggio X9 250 Mk1 which was Powered by a Honda Foresight engine.
I am in my mid 50's now and I don't think I could handle anything more Powerfull these day's.
The only thing that machine lack's is some DS tyre's to make it a true all-rounder.
I really liked your review Especialy the part where you made a Point of The Impotance of Propper Safety Clothing and Footwear.
Keep up the good work Buddy.
I did the same thing on my Helix a month ago at around the same speed with no gloves or jacket. It was a good reminder to wear the gear.
I’ve found wet leaves to be a better chance to slid out . Front brake is worse since steering loss takes you down in a hurry. Watch out for handle bars in ribs. Been there done that😬
This would be a good scooter to put on the back of an RV.
I have a Honda Grom with knobby tires on the back of my RV
Trail 125 would be a better choice to strap to an RV. Much more rugged and far more off-road worthy. Downside is that it's a manual with an automated clutch. A few might find that difficult if they haven't operated a manual.
@@Ichibuns lol it's the EASIEST "manual" you can ride.
Omg it is Honda ADV I saw the bike on the background on your mini video when you opened but box of tires. So I am not crazy. I really want that bike!!!
i think the navi and adv are great for getting more people into scooters alot of people dont want to look a certain way and want to be lame but i feel like once they see how easy and comfortable these are they might realize they arent too bad scooter culture is slim to none in the us and these are great for opening it up more
I think I might get this scooter I was looking for a good beginners scooter and you couldn’t have said it better good review mate👍🏻
great review, thanks
Made me nervous you weaving it after watching your dump straight away. Nice looking bike. Dig the review impressions. At 4:45 that is the same park that Roman and Tommy took the C8 Vette for its review. Need to be careful around there. Nutty drivers. 184 miles is.. fair. Would expect more since it is a scooter tho. I had 165 range on my XLR250. (for a comparison) Fair price.
Love my adv. Over 6,000 miles on the clock in less than a year! (7 months) Do deliveries DD and UE. Perfect now that the gas is $7.00 a gallon.😎
One thing that I might add for this scooter is that this is a design from the Honda Thailand. So this scooter is more aimed to be used in high-density, rural areas of the South East Asian towns with little bumpy roads here and there. It's definitely feel perfect to commute with it here in South East Asia, though it's such an weird, experimental combination between rugged and smooth riding. But hey, it does what it does. Especially when its rugged "features" will seem redundant on wide and flat roads.
just boght a 2022version. man do I love this thing
I like that old school 12 volt ciggaret lighter for my portable air compressor for tires , etc
as long as it is 1amp compressor, yeah you can use it
I want one. It looks fun. I wish there were other color options and larger tires
I just found you by accident. You make the third “scooter guy” I’ve found (all by accident). I told the last guy that all you “scooter folk” seem to be happy people. Then I see this gem of a thumbnail! I just hit pause to write before watching. But know in advance; you’re awesome! Lol. I can’t wait!
@ 9:10 HE’S GOIN FOR IT!
Very good review thank you 😊👍🍺🍺
Best video I’ve seen on it.😁👍
I hope TFL does a comparison video between the ADV 150 and the upcoming new Zuma 125 as they are both being sold as Offroad scooters.
I have owned several Zuma 125s, It can go down good dirt roads, but I definitely wouldn’t consider it an off road bike. There’s not near enough suspension and it bottoms out hard on big bumps.
Hey! Here in Asia, I see a lot of people have this scoot and it comes with a disk rear breaking system. That's my dream scooter but I don't like it with drum break.
It is very popular here in indonesia. It also equipped with rear disc brakes and cost only half of yours. Anyway, great review video.
Yep. We get the rear disk brake in Japan also. I don’t know why Honda went with a drum rear brake for the US market.
Can attest to off-road scooter ability. Was taking a Honda Spree off-road back in the 90s.
I own one of these and I almost got a heart attack with that crash
I see you get drumbrake adv not rear disk brake version,
Is rear disk adv/pcx only available in Indonesia?
Great vid Alex👍ADV150 or Grom for open road like highway use?
Very different machines. Grom is more engaging, more fun and has better aftermarket support. ADV is definitely more practical as a commuter.. Mini-motos scare me a little on the highway so if I had to pick one for highway it would be the ADV150. If you're doing lots of hwy miles you're going to want more power though-Alex
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Great video review. I’ve been back and forth between this and the trail 125. Does Honda make a rear luggage or rack system fir these bikes. Thank you. James
Those two bikes are apples to oranges. Not for the same thing at all.
Check out my install and impressions of the OEM Rear Rack and Top Box for the ADV150. ua-cam.com/video/jgc91a18Q5Q/v-deo.html
Alex what is a top speed GPS around Boulder area?
@2:57 is that Honda cub trail that you gonna test next????
I'm getting the ADV150 and just bought a used PCX150 W/ trunk and soft saddlebags via OfferUp from some old man who kept ALL receipts from EVERY oil change/service from the Honda dealer🙏 since day one! What a psycho! 😂 But i lucked out. 1,800mi. The ADV is brand new though. I have a feeling that my CBR600 and DRZ400sm won't be getting much use, at least until I get tired of this small Scooter phase...
BTW for anyone still reading, if you've been hesitant or altogether unwilling to even consider a Ruckus or other 49'er, you somehow might be unaware that for less than $120, you can turn that Ruckus into an 80cc little thumper that has some get up and go! If you're a gear head who likes to tinker w/ projects in your garage, you can EASILY purchase the time-tested GY6 ENGINE and swap it out of the Ruckus too- making your Ruckus now 152cc! So much fun and great father-son project.
Do they make a pannier bag setup that works well with this? I'd want to add those and a rear trunk setup.
Bought one on Amazon years ago. Velcro in the middle.
I want an x-ADV 750 twin! Wish it was available in the USA
rear drum break? in our country we do have both rear and front disk brake, front abs
I 'm agreed, you can search after market custem for these in Thailand & Indonesia...
You'll will amezed....
And yes its better than PCX
Was just gonna add to this by saying that fir men like me that are 64 years old it would be great , I have a kymco 150 super 8 and it handles easy
Despite all the Hype, ITS A SCOOTER, Not a Dirt Bike, Not an Adventure Bike. I would not want to get off the paved road on any scooter, because You can not shift or engine brake. I am 66 years old and I was thinking maybe Its time for a scooter , But after riding real motorcycles all my life its easy to see through all of the hype. Scooters are very good for Commuting but they should not be taken off road. Honda is marketing the ADV as an Adventure Bike, It Is Not
Considering the difference in storage it makes no sense to buy a super cub over the PCX 150 or ADV 150.
I'm digging that watch. What is that?
WTF? How easy it is to ride? You crashed it!
It's weird that US don't get the rear disc brake version. Any reason for that?
I believe it is because they had to do a parking brake and it was cheaper to do with drum. ua-cam.com/video/coJLit0OQV4/v-deo.html
Howd you fall like that? Too much turn and the wheel slipped under you?
How’d you dump it? Like what went wrong ?
I'm just wondering why Honda put a drum brake at the rear side for the NA market where it has both disc brakes on southeast asian market.
Are you able to change the wheels
Some adv owners told me, if you do sudden hard btaking on this adv. The rear blinker will automaticly flashing very quick to let people behind uou know that youre in emergency braking...do you ever try that? Just curious..
Yes, and it doesn't have to be hard braking. The rear brake light flashes 3 times too
the adv150 that was released in my country has both disc brake on front and rear
Oh...and as for the design, the 2020 PCX 150 is far more attractive than any previous model!
hows the grip on concrete with those tires? is it safe to lean the bike with those dual sport?
it's safe, you don't wanna lean too much of course
Need a new intro for TFLB. Remember, a bike is most stable when laying on its side
Good for doing the fall damage evaluation.
I ride my ADV daily. I have taken it on 160+ mile trips, it is a great bike. I highly recommend if you are looking for a scooter. While the PCX is great, my wife has the 2020 version and she loves it, I had to chose the ADV. It is not perfect by any means, but a great bike none the less.
Did you noticed the put day before month. Because like the metric system everywhere else does it but the US
i just got one of these bikes...and the abs light is stuck flashing....cant seam to fix it.
“A lot of times I forgot how easy it is to ride a scooter” 😂
the only thing I don't like is the front turning lights, they would have been better integrated into the front optics
I like this and the 2022 125 zuma
Drum brake at rear..? In indonesia we get disc brake
The ADV was based off from its bigger brother, the X-ADV 750cc
I'm wondering why our version came with rear disc brake. Right for front brake with ABS, left for combined f/r without ABS
because you put 5 people in Asia on one scooter… Needs better brakes to stop it🤣
We got rear disc brake here in indonesia, with a way more cheaper prize from you guys.
Maybe. But I would go right for the Honda Trail 125,(CT125), simple reliable, and anybody can ride, that might come over.
Apples to oranges. Not for the same thing at all.
Im confuse what does wearing gears have to do with it i sometime wear just a tank top and I never wore gloves on this bike bought it 2 months ago been riding with almost every day even with sandals I mean it’s a scooter 🛵 I’m 6’2 and 222 pounds does the weight helps ?
If you get reckless it really doesn’t matter what your wearing. Driving decently you will probably be fine. Wearing Sandals or Crocs is definitely a No!No! You don’t want shoes to slide off at a stop sign.😬
Can you show us how to change the oil on that scooter?
He did. Easiest way is to lay it on its side.
what was the problem before why did you fall?
Was there an oil slick? How'd you go down?
Ran though some water then hit some gravel, and had the front brake half applied. Bad combo
@@TFLbike is it because camera angle or the steering bar didn't align correctly because of earlier crash?
The only time I wrecked a bike in 30 years of riding was during a slow speed turn, maybe 10 mph, at an intersection on tar and chipped roads. You tend to get a small triangular shape patch of loose gravel in the middle of the intersection. I hit that and BAM down I went! I completely understand what happened here.
A scooter rider has to watch for mown grass,leaves,gravel. At lower speeds be careful not to lock up front brakes as a smaller wheel will have less grip.🤔
d00d. I'm your grandpa's age. The PCX 150 is hideous. I wish Honda would re-introduce the Ruckus 250, with better ergos
Nice review ....adv scooter, the best scooter...made in indonesia...populer rent scooter in bali and lombok..😃
What happened to your Flyers gear brother? Roman make you take that off. Philly true til the day I'm through.
Dude I had those same New Balance shoes! Worst shoes I’ve ever worn in my life! The scooter is pretty sweet tho.
I would like to see this compared to the Trail 125.
yes, please!!
Ditto!
8:11, Hahaha what about the maxxis m6024, kenda big block, etc? My 2015 kymco super8 150r with maxxis m6024s is less capable on road but wpuld whoop this bike offroad for 1/3 the price.
Not available in Canada but Navi is available.
They need to make a 600cc or 700cc version in the USA California to be exact. I'll be first in line to buy it
A 750cc version does exist (which even won the Gibraltar rally race), but I don't know about the availability in the US.
@@hossainalwasi thanks but the problems it's not available in the US. But for now I might go away from gas motorcycle to EV motorcycles like from Zero S.
Dude why did you drop the bike? What happened?
in the Philippines... most of the motorcycle dealers in Metro Manila will not let you buy scooters like Yamaha NMAX 2020 or Honda ADV 150 in full payment "CASH" (SRP) you can only own it by FORCE installment 😅
I always pay cash for small purchases. What is force installment?🤔
@@ronsteitz4535 they're gonna force you to go on monthly amortization
What's top speed? I didn't hear you say. I need something that can do at least CLOSE to 70 mph for 130 Interstate trips.
67 stock. Will install Variator next week and test. ua-cam.com/video/jgc91a18Q5Q/v-deo.html
This ADV150 was never designed for interstate use. Most interstates have a mandatory Motor cubic inch size. Modifications will not change your registration to Policemen 🤔😬
the reason is there are plenty of USB adapters for lighter sockets but not vice-versa.
It’s so easy to ride but you wrecked it because you didn’t give it the respect it deserves!
I admire the Africa Twin
Love to see Honda design a Vespa looking scooter besides the metropolitan.
What caused the accident in beginning of video
keeping 12v socket so i can travel with 12v air compressor, it could save life sometimes.
According to Honda’s website, the PCX has a 156cc engine and the ABB has a 149cc engine
They both had the 149. Then they updated the pcx with the 156, now the new adv 160 (not 150) has the same engine as the pcx again. There was only one year where they had different engines.
Alex it happens to the best of us! Luckily just your pride was bruised! 😀🤕
Sorry..Can't agree that the PCX is ugly or that it's for old people. When the design came out it was innovative and it shared its headlight with the most expensive sport bike. The ADV is an Adventure bike interpretation of that. As far as it being "as aggressive as you're gonna get on a scooter ", I'd advise you to look at the ADV 750. Or the Yamaha XMax, etc. Not to mention the large Suzukis