Honda's 2024 Africa Twin Adventure Sports tested on & off-road | MCN Review
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2024
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I have ALWAYS stated that Africa Twin Adventure Sports with 19 inch front wheel would be perfect as it would make the handling better, the center of gravity lower and make the bike more approachable. It is great to see this change finally arrive!
Yeah but it's too low now - I'll take the old ES 21 front thanks. Not to mention I think it looks silly with a 19 inch front, good to have other options out there for shorter people though.
Africa no more it's then - but updated Varadero
@@MagicAyrtonforever you might be the minority ;-)
Seems like Honda looked at what Suzuki did and they realised that it was a good move
The africa twins to me is the best bike for the long haul. Honda reliability and build quality ❤❤❤
Great review Neevsie !!
Fantastic overview and video footage. Thank you so much! 😊
Like your reviews !!
Excellent review 👍
Right balance between professionalism and enthusiasm. That country looks great 🙂
Portugal is underatedly stunning
7:00 I ride a low chassis option GSA and have never looked back, really made a difference, I’m 5’10 with a 30” inseam.
Well done love the video mate. Seriously thinking about a 2024 model soon as I bought the 2016. I absolutely love but will be interested to ride the 24 model.
Superb review Neevsey lad 👍👌🏻 bike looks superb, its come of age finally I feel, the finish on the Honda's puts the GS's to shame ( and I'm a GS fella ) ...
Thank you, a top review. Clear, no BS, to the point and considered. Absolutely love this style of review. Extremely helpful too. Thank you so much for putting the 'relatively low' 100hp situation into perspective too. I had no comprehension regarding the benefit to reliability of the lower compression ratio - although it completely stands to reason when pointed out! Thanks again and I think there's one of these in my future - DCT and fuss-free suspension for me😄. I'll be trading my 2014 Multistrada GT on the Honda. The Ducati has been WAY LESS than reliable and has deplorable quality for the ludicrous amount I paid for it. Fantastic bike, when it works but, very sadly, I can't rely on it . . .
Sounds lovely!
The quick shifter is an add on, notstock, I think :). Nice review, thanks, mine must be arriving soon :)
Thank you for a great video. I noticed on 2024 the cornering lights remain off when head lights are off ? Is this correct ? Thanks in advance.. 👍🏻
I had a dream , and it was the Africa twin ❤
Worth mentioning the tubeless rims, I’d say? Also what about the weight? My old DCT was 242kg and it did feel a touch underpowered I thought. Overall though, nice review as always and with that front wheel I think Honda will seem even more. Except £17.5k…? 🤔
great review, Thanks!
would have liked 50 more horses in the basement, now it is all minor changes, and no need to upgrade. Still happy with the 2019 version of it.
1100 with 100hp sounds like not enough.
Sounds like they changed everything that I like about the Africa twin
As a very pleased owner of a fully farkled ‘18 Africa Twin DCT I’d love to upgrade. The main “problem” is I’m a very pleased owner of a fully farkled ‘18 Africa Twin DCT . . .
if one starts chasing every bhp or Nm, there wouldn't be much time to ride between farkling the bike and trading it in :) The new version might be intended to entice another target market, but definitely not for the original one where every inch of ground clearance matters
@@kohinoore Right you are, but I’m Turing 72 and both me and my and ambitions are getting a tad shorter. I’ve grown to love the engine and DCT but neither the heft nor the height so, what’s an ol’fella to do?
@@UncleWally3 NT1100 perhaps ?
@@kohinoore Don’t sell NT’s in North America but, yes, that’s what I’d buy + a 300cc dual purpose . . . sigh.
Wonderful review sir. I am not interested in off road, do you think the base model with the 21" is qually good at turn like the 19" adventure sports that weight more and is more expencive? I am between the 21" and the 19" 2024 models and don't want to regret spending money on a bike that is not that good in handling but also don't want to spend more money also :)
Good review
I have a multistrada 950 today. I love this bike! It can keep up with any bike in the corners. Only tree problems, offroad, 15 hp and fuel capasity. Will this new AT keep up with a multistrada?
Any news on a usa release date?
Love the T shirt!!!
Another great MCN Review. Would you purchase over a KTM SuperAdventure S?
I opted for the KTM 1290 SAS. Hard to go slow, ha.
Awesome reviews ! did Honda improve screen bootup time? thk. Y
Another review said they didn't, unchanged
Does the bike automatically lower (or get softer) at stops with the new suspension?
I currently ride a 2004 gsxr1000 100% road riding and I'm considering an adventure style bike, I want comfort, performance on the road and a bit of oomph, the KTM 1290gt is top of the list however this Africa twin looks FAB
You'd be taking a pretty big power hit coming from a GSXR to a Africa Twin. If you just stick to road riding I'd def get a 1290GT.
KTM is not reliable.
You will regret buying the KTM sooo unrealiable. You’ve been warned 😮
What about new suzuki gsxsgt
get an adventure bike such as this Honda or KTM adventure. They are incredible. VS my 05 Blade, I take my KTM 95% of the time, it’s a true weapon.
When will it be released in the US? Or will it??
Thank you for this video - very insightful!
I’m planning to buy an Africa Twin but here’s my dilemma if I can get your expert advice with please. My local Honda dealer is offering 4 grands discount on all the 2023 models. Are the new improvements in the 2024 models worth paying more or would you take the 4 grand and buy the 2023 model?
The 2024 models haven’t been released in Australia yet.
Thanks
Makes me wanna buy it🎉🎉🎉
I thought it was only available in DCT as in Adventure Sports?
Why not offer both 19 and 21 inches front?
Thank you
Best adventure sport
Love the look of the new front wheel. I wonder if the front tyre will now last as long as the rear.
The rims look to have tubed tires, but maybe I'm wrong. I mention it because that can be a limiting factor in terms of road tire availability.
@@MadChalet No wrong, they are tubeless, the spokes are at the edge of the rims.
Any word on a US release? We didn’t even get the 2023 model
Hi there I really think your feedback could help me with a difficult decision I’m making. I’m 6 foot 2, 30 years old, and I’m deciding whether to buy a 2020-2023 model or a 2024. The 2020-2023 Africa size was what mainly drew me to; i liked its 21 wheel too because it inspired me to try off-road more and im sure I’ll like it, although I know that I will mostly drive it on tarmac. With the new model Honda threw me off because it’s actually what I think I’ll need out of this bike, maybe I’ll still be able to approach light off-road while maintaining a good handling on the road, but I’m afraid it is now too small for me or that the smaller front wheel will actually affect the use I could do of it off road in the long run. I don’t know that because I don’t have off-road experience.
What model year do you think might suit me the best?
❤❤❤❤ you are the luckiest man in the world. You test Honda Africa twin 1100 sports
Am having the 2023 Adventure sport Manual with Quick shifter with a 21 front but really miss DCT as my previous 2 ATs were DCTs. am contemplating on selling it for a 2024 DCT but debating between a standard vs Adventure sport. Obviously wont be doing extreme off roads like Kirian Mirabet but the shorter front suspension of the AS keeps me off.
The most beautiful and most coherent and the most lovely bike,
by the grace of GOD i will own a twin one day and I will keep it in my living room..
I am so relieved to know that the Manual Transmission of the ES version is still on sale.
When Honda unveiled the new Africa Twin last October, they said they would discontinue the manual version for the top model entirely. That was heartbreaking.
But am relieved now.
😂❤
Foooooöóö😍💗
it's even harder to say what the heart will go thru with the total electrical conversion
19/18 tyres?
Looks fab, except that price
Best I start saving
I know it would be a niche market but I’d be interested in a 450cc mini Africa twin. I wouldn’t mind that it’ll be expensive in that category as it would be competing against the new CFmoto 450MT, the little Triumph Scrambler, the KTM390 and Svartpilen 401 etc. If it was well specked it could create its own market to riders like me who already have big bikes for that weekend blast but need a good everyday rider that is easy to commute on, which is light and manageable but yet capable enough to keep us engaged and have a little pride of ownership. A kind of grown up supermoto is what I’ve got in mind.
Help me out, I tested the Africa Twin 2024 today. I have an NC750x and my idea is to upgrade. I just loved the teste of the AT.
What I noticed is that the engine vibrates more than the NC. Do you think the engine vibrates more than normal? Will It be me the one to find this?
The Africa Twin has a 270 degree 'crossplane' twin cylinder motor. A beloved characteristic of these unique motors is the 'vibe'. They are self balancing and don't require large counter-balancers like a lot of other motors. The "vibrations" you felt are normal and something to be cherished. Aside from a BMW 6-cylinder and some inline fours you wont get a better balanced motorcycle engine, twin cylinder anyway.
It's a big twin cylinder engine, you're almost certain to get more noticeable vibration than a smaller engine.
Basically there is no point getting a 2023 ATAS over 2024 standard Africa, right??
perfect bike
No intention of buying it at all but cool review.
Come on Honda. Still only 101 HP for a 1200? We got 800 parallel twins making more than that now.
Did you not hear him say it's more than enough for you to ride regularly... Unless you race for a living.
I'm quite surprised that Honda didn't come through with a more substantial update; I was expecting more from the CRF 1100 engine. When they ventured into making a "sport" tourer, I was hoping for features like active cruise control. But what surprised me the most was the price hike, putting it in the same category as the KTM 1290 Adventure Sport, the Tiger 1200, and the BMW R1300.
Weird that it only makes 101bhp when the Transalp makes 91. And there's a big price difference.
This or an 890 SMT?
I wonder if they’ve addressed 2 big issues with the 1100:
1. Frame corrosion - I’ve done 11k on mine and there are blisters in more places than I’d like on the frame.
2. Electronics. Honda extended the warranty on the 1100 screen/dash to 10 years because so many were glitchy. It would shut down/CarPlay wouldn’t work/screen would freeze/cruise would stop working. Also the weather seal around the USB is a dreadful design as it kinks the cable immediately after the plug. Very un-Honda. I get through cables every 6 months as they break internally.
Every manufacturer has to make their big ADVs accessible to more (shorter) riders, either by just reducing the ground clearance, or by electronics. It just makes business sense. Not everyone is a pro or 6 ft tall.
As a shorty, I'm with you. It's like pulling teeth to try to get a lowered model.
On the other hand getting on any middleweight and being over 6ft is just hillarious
The hornet and the GSX-8S/SV65 are all so TINY, its really strange how those bikes are hillariously the small whilst these ADV's have to be SO tall
@@Surpriseify
Has to do with the adventure bikes longer suspension
Hey! I'm 6'5" with long legs.
Do you know how difficult it is to find something with adequate leg room?
The adventure bikes might be on stilts, but the seat to peg ratio is still not that great unless you want a stupidly large GS with tall seat option.
@@pauln6803 your best bet will be the sport/adventure type bikes tbh
Perhaps with tall seat option or lowered pegs.
Think V-strom, Triumph tiger, KTM adv, transalp, etc etc
Many very capable and fun bikes in that market.
If you want more sporty bikes, perhaps Honda VFR or BMW S1000XR?
Loved that vid! Anyone else think, 12 missed called 🤔 😂???
How many times can you say "wheely" ...... It's a really good video, really good bike. It's really easy to ride. Really good handling.... really well equipped....really really really
Sadly, in the UK, wheelies ARE a crime.
Looks good value, if you had all those feature on a GS (which would be extras) you'd be broke.
I notice your bike was a manual transmission , but when you zoomed in it showed aDCT……
Now I want to buy that helmet, lol
when will this reach the shores of US? :(
Should be in the US by May! Announced 2 days ago (14 February)
What would you choose guys, africa twin or tuger 900 gt pro? 🤔 maybe the new mg stelvio? 😅
I'd go with the Tiger. That triple is way more thrilling than the Honda's boring twin.
Depends on the kind of roads you ride on. Free open motorways then the Tiger makes sense as it has more power up top. If its tight twisty then Africa twin makes sense as you can power out of corners quicker as it has more bottom end torque. If you do both then Africa twin still makes a case as not everyone wants to do 140mph all day long. And the tiger has an annoying vibration that creeps up around the 5k rpm mark. I ride a 850GS here in India and its much more driveable than my friends Tiger 900 (his words not mine) on the sort of roads we have here. ..Cheers.
Is it tall enough at 6'4"
I'm 5'10 on a gd day! I have a 2021 base model. With biking boots on, seat in high position, I can just flat foot both feet!
what about 1100 cc with 110 hp why why 750 translap xl with 96 😅
I like bikes like the AT for touring and this latest version looks and sounds superb…but…..using a chain for final drive rather than a shaft is always going to see me looking at the GS I’m afraid…..just don’t want the muck n faff 😢
Can U do wheelies with DCT?
Yes! Happened to me, albeit accidentally, when I took out the 2020 version.
I’ve got the 2021 dct and you can absolutely do wheelies!
So, where does the NT 1100 fit in the range?
As an actual tourer for people without adventure pretentions?
@@903lew for people with shorter legs, maybe. My tired old knees don't like being bent like that all the time
NT1100 has a 17 inch front wheel. That means not really made for any gravel roads / off road. Also probably no bash plate and lower ground clearance.
@@_hold_the_line_ yeah there'll be downsides, but I don't feel like it's a huge deal really. I admit I did seriously damage the electronic suspension adjustment on my 2008 K1200GT with a lot of gravel riding. It seized and couldn't change spring preload anymore. It rode just fine on gravel, even on badly-corrugated gravel. Felt safe & controllable, sometimes even FUN! Michelin Pilot Road2 tyres, I think.
The only time it felt sketchy was on a ~17km stretch of fairly wet gravel somewhere in central Tasmania - felt like I couldn't turn back without risking dropping the bike, so I just continued on. What's that thing people say ... something about taking inappropriate equipment to out-of-the-way places? 🙂Would do it again in a heartbeat
@@jsleeio Aye, no bike perfect for everyone.
At 17k I can get a Tiger GTPro and it will be shaft drive.
No shaft drive on Triumphs
Wonder if that supercharged Africa Twin will ever become reality? Anyone aware of any new rumors?
Finally it's approachable to me, I'm just lacking 10 grand...
Nice bike, my dream bike but expensive. 😅
Sadly it’s $30 grand in Canada
Love it apart from the out-dated combo of LCD and TFT screen - one screen with do, not two screens both showing the speed that don't update at the same time as the speed changes.
I always use waze or calimoto on the tft, so for me the 2 screens is very usefull. The second screen could use an update to make it look more modern
@@Jubelly The main display needs to be configurable so that when in Apple or Android mode or whatever, user selectable info can be overlaid in the corner such as speed, gear, rpm etc - lots of TFT technology available to do this already out there in the market, Honda just don't want to spend the money updating is all. When they do, I'll probably pull the trigger.
Gear and speed is on the second screen, just not rpm. The system works great as it is. My main TFT I mostly have Waze displayed, but you can easily flip the main screen between Car Play and the inbuilt mode screens with a touch of function switch without even taking your hand off the bars. Everything is at your fingertips on this bike, just got to get used to using it. It’s a good system.
@@GeeBeeMike My Audi has everything in one display and can show nav, speed, RPM, gear, MPG etc all at the same time without needing two displays. It's better and totally possible and available tech to the masses. I get the Honda system, it's just out of date now and could (should?) be better. All in my opinion of course.
@@Otto-AutoPilotyes, but the Audi doesn’t show Waze on the LCD all in one. The Honda TFT LCD combo does through wireless car play.
I concede the LCD element of the Honda could be improved, but the combo of the two is adequate and works just fine. Previously I didn’t have wireless CarPlay set up on my AT, now I do.
101bhp 😮 less than my tracer9 i bought for 8900gbp brand new
you won't want to go same places on the tracer, trust me
Creedence. ✌
The weight seriously has to go down more
get a translap its far better than this thing.
👍
A big bike attached to a GINORMOUS exhaust can
Stelvio might force prices down and shaft drive …… heres hoping
too expensive, and there is no 19 wheel on the regular just on the andventure...
Don’t like the 19 inch front, definitely prefer the 21. I can still rip anywhere anytime with my 21 inch front! Nicer for off-road anyway!
Unfortunately they have made the model's far to expensive.
In the 80's where Honda use to dominate. Mate, have you seen the 2024 results?
Pricey and still doesn't have all the new gizmos.
Now all this bike needs is a shaft drive
I’d instantly buy it if it was
I really don't get this bike. If I wanted to save money and dont need 150+ hp id just get a transalp, and If I wanted a premium full size GT id there are so many choices with or without shaft drive for around the same price give or take...I'm no speed demon but 100hp on a heavy full sized flagship seems a little bit underwhelming, especially haveing the Transalp with the same performance
If Honda added 10 hp that would be enough gain , a cam change would do that,
There is still a Suzuki Vstrom 1050 as an alternative.
Higher seat and heavier! Very nice to ride, silky smooth motor!!
Mo power baby! Always need more power
Its too expensive to be honest
Agreed, I'd prefer the regular suspension at a reduced price.
Id prefer standard with a 19inch front wheel. With or without ES.
It's more expensive than any competitor. Even the Ducati Multi. Ridiculous price for a 100hp parallel twin.
@@nicksokolis6343I’d like to think that an overengineered big CC parallel twin is reliable but agreed, too pricey. You start adding on a few features and you’re at $17k / 18k… and honestly the 19in front on the Adventure Sports makes it a bit less appealing in my opinion, but some of the features it has are missing on the standard….
Have you seen the used prices for the Yamaha Tenere 700?
THAT'S overpriced.
only 1 comment out of 131 so far mentioning the little front wheel. i think you should stop calling it an adventure bike and call it a dirt road tourer.
can't get over the fact that the front mudguard was designed for a 21" wheel, which ruins the looks and makes it look very cheap! Bring the Hawk 11 to Europe Honda!
but on the plus side less crap sprayed all over the bike
101 bhp, nothing wrong there, but all that weight! No thanks.
Is a good bike, but not good enough to be more expensive than a 1200 stelvio, especially with only 100 HP., this just got to expensive.
so basically Honda made a Transalp 1100
What do you mean?
@@ewganhoffthey made an Africa twin that’s more geared to on road than off which is basically the transalp. The horse power difference isn’t even that significant. Even though the XL750 has a 21” wheel it’s still sharp handling like this new AT
Give me a break. I own both. They are completely different animals. Love both for how different they are.
@@GCTO239you have a transalp 750 and this new Africa twin sport touring?
Trans with dct would be nice!!!
I think the swingarm looks old fashioned
800 de
Wheelies are definitely a crime and it should stay this way!
Fun thou!!
Lets face it 21" wheels are wasted on 90% of adventure bikes especially in the uk.
People who use adventure bikes off road where a 21" wheel is useful are in the minority.