I'm glad to hear an actual scientist conduct a TED talk. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy all the inspirational stuff, but hearing an actual scientist deeply involved in his work still makes my heart beat faster. Ty for uploading.
The fact that TED lets pseudoarchaelogists like Graham Hancock conduct speeches diminishes the work of the real scientists who take time out to give these talks. Google Graham Hancock and look at his controversies and ask yourself why they would let this charlatan lecture.
@letmeoff6447 Actually it's recognized first kingdom is 200 years older than 5000 years old. Of course Egypt is older but that's when the first recognized Pharoah ruled. Mesopotamian culture is older than Egypts.
I studied Egyptology from many, very learned professors at Uppsala Univeristy (but only after I had retired from a 40 year career of teaching). I have travelled to Luxor a couple of times and travelled the desert between the Red Sea and Luxor. I would have LOVED to know of the possibility of an expedition to the western desert. He is living my dream.
@@MrBcuzbcuz :: the Red Sea was low enough at this time of the season that the exodus was successful….and then flooded extinguishing the pursuers…..is this close to fact or can you clarify the event ?
So this is not about The Disappearance of an Egyptian Army that was 50000 strong. It's about The Disappearance of a Persian army that was 50000 strong.
It had nothing to do with Ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt was already a satrap (client state) of the Achaemenid Empire during this period. Cambyses II merely aspired to extend his empire by dwelling deeper into Africa's interior by trying to conquer Kush. Herodotus, a Greek historian explained this over 2,400 years ago but modern historians did not believe his story due to the lack of evidence.
I've had a few boyfriend's who suddenly disappeared, no calls, no letters or email's i thought they had gone off me never thought until watching this that a bloody sandstorm got them.
As a student of the Biblical book of Daniel, and a student of history, this story has intrigued me. It ties up some loose ends while introducing us to a new, very interesting historical figure.
A fact about the duration of the ancient Egyptian empire that amazed me when I first heard it is that the reign of Cleopatra, the last Pharaoh, is closer to today than to the start of the Egyptian empire.
Did I miss something? He never found the remains of the army, nor their battlefield. He has an assumption based on a temple inscription. It seems very premature to have an entire TED talk where he pats himself on the back for a discovery that is completely theoretical at this point.
He found out why the 50k troops were sent out. He found that those 50k did not succeed in their mission. He found where this mysterious king belonged in the history of Egypt. He helped confirm the credibility of Herodotus' recorded story.
I think he did very well with English. It's obviously not his native language and I'm sure he would present a smoother talk in his native tongue. I found him charming
This was a very heart felt speech...I could here the passion he has fir the field he has chosen to Persue...He has a gentle heart and Spitit about him genuine..And teaches us all how take the time upon silent relflexiion we can figure things out with a clearer frame of mind and change stories that need to be changed and look Ed at from a different perspective 😊
Well, being the amateur Egyptologist, I came across this title pleasantly excited. It immediately became apparent that it wasn’t the Egyptian army in question, it was a Persian one. I can only imagine a massive sandstorm is very capable of swallowing an entire army. BUT, no evidence whatsoever. My mind even drifted to a Close Encounter scenario where the Persian army was beamed up whole! And Olaf found Hieroglyphs depicting Persians in the sky being transported to a mother ship. I am eagerly awaiting the discovery of Cleopatra’s tomb. At least then a take from Herodotus would have more bones to it.
Wow, so many dislikes for this truly amazing insight in what actual science looks like. This guy has just found out why 50.000 soldiers were "lost", found a new king of that period and established an area for him and his colleagues to go to for further digging and to know what to look for, not 50.000 soldiers but a battlefield. This bores everyone? People... People are so... People don´t know how much work real science actually is and what real discoveries look like, obviously...
@@kiyanmehrpour6105 Really? Not so....consider Behistun Inscription: Darius's Message to the Persian Empire, a 6th century BCE Persian Empire carving iincluding four panels of cuneiform writing around a set of three-dimensional figures, cut deep into a limestone cliff. The figures are carved 300 feet (90 meters) above the Royal Road of the Achaemenids, known today as the Kermanshah-Tehran highway in Iran.
Did you see excatly what happened? You jsut believe what he just said? Where are the remains of that battle and where is the evidence for the size of that army? Oh, you don't need to see them; you just believe what you are told, as long as the teller is a European!
So many TEDx lectures on UA-cam is so poorly filmed... Why would you show a person talking for several minutes instead of the slideshow that’s supporting the talk.?!
This was an absolut zero content stretched for 13 minutes! No solution, no content no findings just sitting there thinking about a surrealistisk nothing!
So, there's still no sign of this battle. Not a word about the fact that an Italian expedition have found an army in 1996 (studied until 2009), together persian artifacts. Would that spoil the "mistery" perhaps? Too bad.
There was once an army of 50,000 Egyptians / really Persians in Egypt, they disappeared in a sandstorm. No one knows if it is a myth or true, the end. Cool story bro.
The people who said nothing happened in this talk obviously didn't stay or understand... The myth of a lost army was shattered, a lost king found and a battlefield waits to be excavated. That's quite a bit of drama right there!
The headline is misleading, this story is not about an "Egyptain Army". "... one of the stories he relates is that of a Persian army sent out into the western desert and it never came back."
If the entire army disappeared, never to be seen or heard of again, how do we know it was a sandstorm, and how do we know they all disappeared into this sandstorm when they were sitting down to breakfast?
Win hearts and minds. The army did not vanish in a literal sense. It is a metaphor. Upon being sent into the desert to die by an unjust king, the 50,000 simply decided to lay down thier arms and disperse amomg the society of the opponent. Thier hearts were not in the battle. They simply decided to go with the flow. The "ARMY" disappeared. They became citizens and helped build the temple. If you can't beat 'em join 'em.
I disagree with his premise of "following your passion." Your passion could mislead you into a path of self destruction. Rather..take your passion with you as a guide ONLY.
Nice point, Jeffery Hill! Charles Forte also had a tale,verified by witnesses, of a British regiment in Gallipoli times being covered by a brownish cloud, which then lifted up. The regiment had disappeared. No remains found or explanation was ever given. Who's going around collecting armies??!!
Later excavations proved that the majority were executed by Turks near a small farm in a heavily wooded area near Sulva Bay in the North of the Penninsula. The Turks had their "lost regiment". They totally vanished while on routine patrol before the allied landings. This worried the Turks greatly suspecting mass desertion. Only solved many decades later when bone fragments where discovered by a shepard in a small hollow. They had all been killed by a single shot from the Battleship Queen Elisabeth when it exploded directly over their heads.
I think that size of ancient armies that have come to us need to be divided by 5 or 10. The logistics (water and food most importantly) of the high numbers are impossible.
@@blznft9513 So who was there to witness what was written in the scriptures? What is interesting is recently a Geologist found in the desert hundred of skeletal remains... and arrow heads.
@@GreatWaterCircus i share from interest that among literature about Egypt into Arabia and ancient Mesopotamia and the Levant that the then remoter and coastal areas far out in the ancient Arabian Peninsula was a place to have very archaic POW or penal colonies ,.like Aussie was once , of peoples or ethnic groups who were defeated in old 3rd Millennium BC wars about the time of the old Akkadian Empire under its powerful kings.. A ancient city was a warring region at times . The losing side eventually exiled from the first rightful domains like home countries or spots. This even explains Australian looking natives today mixed in Arabia. Dark peoples not Arabic . They had been there long time. From prisoner of war groups anciently .. like a theory see ! These peoples split up some on boats to all over the Indian Ocean becoming Austronesians adding more people to coastal fishing cultures to places like New Guinea retreating into forests .
I love Egyptology, too. It’s been a passion of mine since I was a child. I like the period he’s talking about, too, because there’s so much to know and learn about.
Could be the larger part of the army somehow survived and walked out of the desert with Petubastis to take control of Egypt - be a good reason for Darius to try to remove them from history
Technically governor of Babylonia, then second King of Kings of the Achaemenids. During Cambyses II's reign, he conquered northern Africa, including Egypt, where he was known as king of upper and lower Egypt. He reigned from Egypt for a few years before returning to Persia to fight a rebellion.
This was not what I thought it would be about. I thought it would be about the army of Egypt that was destroyed during the time of Moses. I think that would would be a far more interesting event to study.
I think there is more intrigued here than meets the eye. Imagine the vinegar running through the veins of the defeated and humiliated Egyptians. Somehow they managed to acquire a guide for this Persian army that led them out into the desert, into a trap here possibly ambushed or simply left exposed and lost in a hostile climate. Check a win here for the Egyptians. There is a multi million dollar drama franchise nested here.
There is a legend of the Chinese emperor who sent his official to find the elixir of life. In those days, those emperor want to live forever. The official, knowing that he and is entire family were dead as there was no way to find the elixir. That was the penalty for failure. He asked the emperor for 500 young men and maidens and ships and supplies and left and sailed to what is now Japan and established a settlement there and never came back. So actually the people of Japan are Chinese. That is of course for those scientists to prove. It is way beyond my pay grade.
This story may have truth. The central Japanese population has a surprising degree of haplogroup O3a5, which is Han Chinese. This is not explained by the standard version of migration from Korea.
Bobby Yee i believe you but they must have mixed with other people there or something because chinese and Japanese people look completely different than each other. I know most people would disagree because they think all Asians look the same but they definitely do not look the same. If you have paid attention to how Asian people look you would have seen that you can easily tell where they are from just by their facial features. Just like you can tell the difference between certain white nationalities like Polish, Ukrainian, and Russians.
I still don’t get why they said the army was lost in a sand storm and all the other things that were in the story. But i am glad he followed his passion and was rewarded by picking the dullest time period of egypt
He's mistaken. Herodotus is writing about the Great Psamtik 1st. Rising up to conquer the Assyrian empire of Essarhaddon and Asherbinpal. From the story of Thebes and Temple of Amun. Psamtik regained complete control of upper and lower Egypt. There was no other Egyptian warrior king like him since Thutmoses III
This is why I can never get into prehistoric stuff. No matter how much you read and research, you still Don’t really know what happened and you're left feeling unfulfilled.
when you think you're onto something, then begin to question the relevance of your work when people actually stop to listen, then realize you just needed someone to listen to you
Johnson, My thoughts exactly! No evidence to back it up. I watched a Nat-Geo video about a group that did travel to an area that bronze-age bones and weapons were discovered earlier that was not more than a days journey from the armies oasis destination but they were in no condition to attack anything, sand storm or not! All the articles found dated to about the time that that army disappeared. Not proof positive but pretty close.
@@willyam9735 I wish you would elaborate more and mention a link or how to find this video. What do you mean "No condition to attack"? It sounds like that video is far more informative and useful then this TED-Talk-Theory.
he told that the king name that was mentioned in that temple was later mentioned as another king of egypt , it simply explains what happenned in that desert and to the rest of invaders ! Sooner or later the battlefield will be found , but we already know what will they find there . Archeolagical timelines are not whole projects , different people in different times will prove them with excavations . What he says is that the 50k didnt go to sky or was lost in the desert , he basically means the mystery is solved
The Persian Army was more likely to have been 5000 men strong a large number in ancient times and remember the 40% infant mortality rate which lasted into Victorian times.
I think the most likely scenario is Cambyses was quite successful in his conquests in Egypt and neighbouring territories in Africa as archaeology and other sources suggests. However, he was assassinated and his brother usurped the throne, only for him to then be overthrown by a group of nobles, one of them being the upcoming Darius the Great.
The title "Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army" and the content of the speech, somewhat of a mismatch for me. I was expecting archaeological facts and science research about the lost army. Very blunt ending as well. Anyway next time, more about the army please, so what really happened ? Any more facts about the battles that took place? thanks
The Persians were attacked at the Dachla Oasis by the man who later became Petubastis III reclaiming a great part of Northern Egypt. The Persians later took it back again. As usual, this has all been recorded by the Egyptians on tiles near the place of the battle. The Egyptians also had recorded much of the Bible that has since been doctored and abridged by later Christians.
@@abrahamlife The current day Bible contains both an Old and a New Testament which is also a book possessed by Islam. As you know, the Tora is merely the first five books of the Bible's Old Testament. "The Gods created man in their own image" This is explained by saying God is a triad and thus plural--3 in 1. So "Jehovah" is made of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Judaism does not believe in Jesus or that God has yet to arrive on Earth in the flesh. I own pages in Egyptian on animal skin which reads completely different than the current Bible. One scroll being my favorite of Moses migrating across the water. The Bible states 500,000 man slaves plus their women and children left bondage from Egypt. There were not even that many Egyptians in all of Egypt at that time. Slaves were not used by Egyptians for building projects. There are many reports regarding the Persians supposed disappearance. Look at those that discuss the Dachla Oasis. Look at translations on Egyptian tile at the time. Similar to Iraq where christian and Jewish USA murdered half a million, they now want to murder a similar amount of Persians using more "false flag" accusations. Iran has the second largest population of Jews in the Middle East. Seems Israel learned how to treat Shia Muslims from the Germans who caused 6 million Jews to either die or migrate across the Globe. 20 million Russians died at the same time and nearly all the camps were built for them while two were used for the Jews. Do not see the Russians demanding favors and museums to honor them.
@Barb Mulvaney My comments on the Bible were merely reflecting its own inaccuracies. A good source to follow would be professor Bart D. Ehrman. These are all well known and my comment about the animal skin was merely part of Egyptian copies of the bible all known to scholars already. No one is hiding this information with the exception of Christian leaders and the Roman Catholic Church.
Seheruibre Padibastet, better known with his Hellenised name Petubastis III (or IV, depending on the scholars) was a native Ancient Egyptian ruler, c. 522 - 520 BC, who revolted against Persians.
college history professor said Herodotus would often lie to fill in the gaps if he didnt have the full truth and other historians of the era said he was a bit of a liar/exaggerator
true. A lot of what he writes are second accounts from other people and were told orally. The stories are bound to have some embellishments. Plus the thing is, Herodotus also believes in mystical things (just like most other people back then). So he writes down things that to us are obviously false, thinking that it indeed happened.
I found them ... They pooled their money and invested in property near Malibu Cal. Then when the time was right for their investment sold off the property and now are retired and living well in Florida . Well at least some of the people there look like Persian mummies .
I'm glad to hear an actual scientist conduct a TED talk. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy all the inspirational stuff, but hearing an actual scientist deeply involved in his work still makes my heart beat faster. Ty for uploading.
Scientist... Pffff...
He said Egypt is 5000 years old. It isn't.
Good for you.
@letmeoff6447 you Egypt is not 5000 years old. It is much much older than that
The fact that TED lets pseudoarchaelogists like Graham Hancock conduct speeches diminishes the work of the real scientists who take time out to give these talks. Google Graham Hancock and look at his controversies and ask yourself why they would let this charlatan lecture.
@letmeoff6447 Actually it's recognized first kingdom is 200 years older than 5000 years old. Of course Egypt is older but that's when the first recognized Pharoah ruled. Mesopotamian culture is older than Egypts.
I studied Egyptology from many, very learned professors at Uppsala Univeristy (but only after I had retired from a 40 year career of teaching). I have travelled to Luxor a couple of times and travelled the desert between the Red Sea and Luxor. I would have LOVED to know of the possibility of an expedition to the western desert. He is living my dream.
Is this the army that is currently found at the bottom of the Red Sea? The ones that tried to kill the Jews as they escaped Egypt
@@trying3841 “currently found”? You must know something no one else does.
@@MrBcuzbcuz :: the Red Sea was low enough at this time of the season that the exodus was successful….and then flooded extinguishing the pursuers…..is this close to fact or can you clarify the event ?
So this is not about The Disappearance of an Egyptian Army that was 50000 strong. It's about The Disappearance of a Persian army that was 50000 strong.
Click Bait !!!
well observed but I would add that's this is about how awesome this guy thinks he is.
Cambyses did rule over Egypt too, as Pharaoh. Egypt was not absorbed into the Persian Empire, he ruled Egypt under a separate title.
this is only an "x" talk.
It had nothing to do with Ancient Egypt. Ancient Egypt was already a satrap (client state) of the Achaemenid Empire during this period. Cambyses II merely aspired to extend his empire by dwelling deeper into Africa's interior by trying to conquer Kush. Herodotus, a Greek historian explained this over 2,400 years ago but modern historians did not believe his story due to the lack of evidence.
I've had a few boyfriend's who suddenly disappeared, no calls, no letters or email's i thought they had gone off me never thought until watching this that a bloody sandstorm got them.
"ghosting" is over 5.000 yrs young
@Wuotans Krieger and another 0
Lmao...
Maybe something wrong with you 🙄
What is a letter? Call? You must mean a text.
This happened to me recently. I ordered a DVD on amazon but it never arrived. Just disappeared
It’s probably with all of the visuals we didn’t get to see in this video
@@hauntedhose LMAO saw that and I searched youtube with Cambyses lost army...still took me here though
oops replied the wrong person
thats why amazon building temples everywhere you look
DUUH.
As a student of the Biblical book of Daniel, and a student of history, this story has intrigued me. It ties up some loose ends while introducing us to a new, very interesting historical figure.
A fact about the duration of the ancient Egyptian empire that amazed me when I first heard it is that the reign of Cleopatra, the last Pharaoh, is closer to today than to the start of the Egyptian empire.
Did I miss something? He never found the remains of the army, nor their battlefield. He has an assumption based on a temple inscription. It seems very premature to have an entire TED talk where he pats himself on the back for a discovery that is completely theoretical at this point.
TEDx is different than TED.
He found out why the 50k troops were sent out. He found that those 50k did not succeed in their mission. He found where this mysterious king belonged in the history of Egypt. He helped confirm the credibility of Herodotus' recorded story.
He is Dutch.
@@princesssolace4337 What's your point exactly?
@@princesssolace4337... Lol are you referencing a stereotype we're unaware of🤣🤣
I think he did very well with English. It's obviously not his native language and I'm sure he would present a smoother talk in his native tongue. I found him charming
This was a very heart felt speech...I could here the passion he has fir the field he has chosen to Persue...He has a gentle heart and Spitit about him genuine..And teaches us all how take the time upon silent relflexiion we can figure things out with a clearer frame of mind and change stories that need to be changed and look Ed at from a different perspective 😊
Tell me English is not your native language.
@@brandonmusick77 if the message comes through does it matter... 🤔
@MrJA Agreed, but it's quite unclear at the end & that can keep the message from coming through
They ran into 300 Spartans.
That's so good! There would be waste, Maybe the Spartans were disguised as a sandstone ???
Source's because that's not true
Actually it was 303
Haha
Spartans had not come out of their caves!!!
13 mins to say "My guess is, we're looking for a battlefield."
Whole lot of sawdust, no beams.
I worked in archeological excavations when I was a student. I was told sand has a high portion of silica. Body's decompose in a few years in sand.
We have a lot of Mamluks that have not been discovered yet. Thank you for shaking the information. I am from Egypt
I loved the pause when he said "to me (pause) a scientists " priceless
Thats a very good example for Talk a lot without saying nothing
Thank you for the information and bringing it home to follow one's passion!
His total breathless pauses are agonising.
They were crossing the Red Sea to catch up with Israel.
Bob Ski somebody knows the truth.
Research Ron Wyatt for Sodom Gamoriah
Research muddfosil university on you tube for the giants of renown.
Think the accurate translation was Reed River.
It was a common mistranslation.
@@KalRandom No it was in the Gulf of Aqaba, an extension of the Red Sea.
Google maps Arabia. Split rock of Moses moses camp
@B B I don't understand your question Bebe tell me more about what you see
Well, being the amateur Egyptologist, I came across this title pleasantly excited. It immediately became apparent that it wasn’t the Egyptian army in question, it was a Persian one. I can only imagine a massive sandstorm is very capable of swallowing an entire army. BUT, no evidence whatsoever. My mind even drifted to a Close Encounter scenario where the Persian army was beamed up whole! And Olaf found Hieroglyphs depicting Persians in the sky being transported to a mother ship. I am eagerly awaiting the discovery of Cleopatra’s tomb. At least then a take from Herodotus would have more bones to it.
So are we saying what happened in Dakhla Oasis is going to stay in Dakhla Oasis?
Vegas baby...Vegas.
No, but it was SUPPOSED TO.
Great presentation. Thank you.
I read Olaf as Loaf and 50.000 as 50,000 and went through this whole thing dissapointed i didnt learn about 50,000 year old Egyptian bread..
Wow, so many dislikes for this truly amazing insight in what actual science looks like.
This guy has just found out why 50.000 soldiers were "lost", found a new king of that period and established an area for him and his colleagues to go to for further digging and to know what to look for, not 50.000 soldiers but a battlefield.
This bores everyone?
People... People are so...
People don´t know how much work real science actually is and what real discoveries look like, obviously...
Egypt wasn't always a desert. Not sure exactly when but scientists are almost certain Egypt was a lush rainforest in the not too distant past.
Parts of Egypt were lusher than they are now. Desertification is a thing. What is your point?
An informative video, amazing!!:)
Interesting, Persian army defeated fighting a rebellious pharaoh near a desert oasis. Persian propaganda, army lost in the desert.
U men heredotus ? Because Persians never write anything about themselves.
Interesting take,
@@kiyanmehrpour6105 Really? Not so....consider Behistun Inscription: Darius's Message to the Persian Empire, a 6th century BCE Persian Empire carving iincluding four panels of cuneiform writing around a set of three-dimensional figures, cut deep into a limestone cliff. The figures are carved 300 feet (90 meters) above the Royal Road of the Achaemenids, known today as the Kermanshah-Tehran highway in Iran.
@@CountryCampers who was darius ?
Did you see excatly what happened? You jsut believe what he just said? Where are the remains of that battle and where is the evidence for the size of that army? Oh, you don't need to see them; you just believe what you are told, as long as the teller is a European!
Inspiring to young folks setting out on their journeys in life. Ive followed my passion too..its a blessing in life
Nou
So many TEDx lectures on UA-cam is so poorly filmed... Why would you show a person talking for several minutes instead of the slideshow that’s supporting the talk.?!
This was an absolut zero content stretched for 13 minutes!
No solution, no content no findings just sitting there thinking about a surrealistisk nothing!
So, there's still no sign of this battle. Not a word about the fact that an Italian expedition have found an army in 1996 (studied until 2009), together persian artifacts. Would that spoil the "mistery" perhaps? Too bad.
have you got any references to share ?
شكرا الى من قام بالترجمة الى اللغة العربية . رائعة جدا .
There was once an army of 50,000 Egyptians / really Persians in Egypt, they disappeared in a sandstorm. No one knows if it is a myth or true, the end. Cool story bro.
TheDba82 iirc it’s well recorded because the Persian king who lead the army went mad due to the defeat.
Wonderful story. Thank you for posting!
The people who said nothing happened in this talk obviously didn't stay or understand... The myth of a lost army was shattered, a lost king found and a battlefield waits to be excavated. That's quite a bit of drama right there!
Actually that Egyptian king was a fighter, a hero. He claimed back Egypt from the Persians.
"Battlefield waits to be excavated". We have a theory at this point.
He's an archeologist not a public speaker, we need to be excavating and digging into our history in that part of the world, he's doing important work
@@ancientbear3280 Yes! Thank you.
The headline is misleading, this story is not about an "Egyptain Army".
"... one of the stories he relates is that of a Persian army sent out into the western desert and it never came back."
So....the whole whole headline is a misnomer, you are right!
If the entire army disappeared, never to be seen or heard of again, how do we know it was a sandstorm, and how do we know they all disappeared into this sandstorm when they were sitting down to breakfast?
This only proves what I've learned from reading Herodotus' work: Take it with a grain of salt, or in this case a grain of sand.
Great speech, thank you for sharing
I switched off when he said Egypt has 5,000 years of history, the real history goes way back.
More than 5000, you deaf. Written a.k.a less speculative history is just 5000.
"more than 5000yrs"
Win hearts and minds. The army did not vanish in a literal sense. It is a metaphor. Upon being sent into the desert to die by an unjust king, the 50,000 simply decided to lay down thier arms and disperse amomg the society of the opponent. Thier hearts were not in the battle. They simply decided to go with the flow. The "ARMY" disappeared. They became citizens and helped build the temple. If you can't beat 'em join 'em.
Ever since I was a child I loved everything Egypt.
So I became a musician.
So if you had loved dinosaurs you would have become a dentist?
Steve Trueblue no a football player .... 🤦♂️🤣
What happened to the 50,000 strong Persian army?
Soooo basically a Persian legend/mystery compelled him to pursue becoming an Egyptologist some day.
Cool story bro.
It is an Egyptian record translated by a Greek traveler about a Persian army
I disagree with his premise of "following your passion." Your passion could mislead you into a path of self destruction. Rather..take your passion with you as a guide ONLY.
Nice point, Jeffery Hill! Charles Forte also had a tale,verified by witnesses, of a British regiment in Gallipoli times being covered by a brownish cloud, which then lifted up. The regiment had disappeared. No remains found or explanation was ever given. Who's going around collecting armies??!!
Later excavations proved that the majority were executed by Turks near a small farm in a heavily wooded area near Sulva Bay in the North of the Penninsula. The Turks had their "lost regiment". They totally vanished while on routine patrol before the allied landings. This worried the Turks greatly suspecting mass desertion. Only solved many decades later when bone fragments where discovered by a shepard in a small hollow. They had all been killed by a single shot from the Battleship Queen Elisabeth when it exploded directly over their heads.
I think that size of ancient armies that have come to us need to be divided by 5 or 10. The logistics (water and food most importantly) of the high numbers are impossible.
The Egyptian army followed their passion.
The question I ask is : No one ever survived, the army totally disappeared... so how did they know about the sand storm.
GreatWaterCircus my first thought
Scriptures
@@blznft9513 So who was there to witness what was written in the scriptures? What is interesting is recently a Geologist found in the desert hundred of skeletal remains... and arrow heads.
@@GreatWaterCircus i share from interest that among literature about Egypt into Arabia and ancient Mesopotamia and the Levant that the then remoter and coastal areas far out in the ancient Arabian Peninsula was a place to have very archaic POW or penal colonies ,.like Aussie was once , of peoples or ethnic groups who were defeated in old 3rd Millennium BC wars about the time of the old Akkadian Empire under its powerful kings.. A ancient city was a warring region at times . The losing side eventually exiled from the first rightful domains like home countries or spots. This even explains Australian looking natives today mixed in Arabia. Dark peoples not Arabic . They had been there long time. From prisoner of war groups anciently .. like a theory see ! These peoples split up some on boats to all over the Indian Ocean becoming Austronesians adding more people to coastal fishing cultures to places like New Guinea retreating into forests .
Also this may have taken a longer span of time and since very ancient warfare to over 4500 years ago took place around the Near and Middle East.
This almost parallels the Mongols invasion of Japan when its fleet was destroyed by a typhoon.
It could have been interesting, and was up until it just ended with no resolution. Did he find the army? If so what did he find?
This makes perfect sense, a sandstorms been stealing my socks out of the dryer for YEARS!
No, the warm, moist environment allowed them to complete their metamorphosis into a wire coathanger, which transports and appears in your cupboard.
You need a better dryer
...careful....😕
Spoiled the story nice
@TEDx Why the title says Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army while it was Persian Army?
Thank you. On a philosophical as well as factual level, that moved me.
Dave Box yes i pitty the poor Guy with no content!
I love Egyptology, too. It’s been a passion of mine since I was a child. I like the period he’s talking about, too, because there’s so much to know and learn about.
*ONE of the WORST TED TALKS ENDS with "Find out where your passion is & follow it wherever it may take you."* 12:44
Sarah Silverman's was THE worst.
So what did he discover ?
Loved this! Thank you
Your name reminds me of my young times when I would eat cinnamon by itself for my own tasting pleasure
I could be happy the rest of my life..
With a cinnamon girl. 😏
i wish there were some maps and photos to show the area where that army was. why not look intp ground radar / ladar ?
Heroditus spoke of ships, they were found recently buried under the old nile......
Nyarlathotep didn’t appreciate this move, game over. Simple.
let me save you some time... take the title and add... "I guess, this story is really about my life and my adventures"... I hate when they do that...
Exactly!
Excellent story.Please MrEriksson, more Ted Talk video. I am fascinated and hunger for more.Thank you so much.
Could be the larger part of the army somehow survived and walked out of the desert with Petubastis to take control of Egypt - be a good reason for Darius to try to remove them from history
This bloke just took me on the scenic, stuttery road to nowhere...
I wish I read your comment sooner. Thank you
Some people should just NOT be public speakers, this is a perfect example, .... MAXXAUS.
Persian not Egyptian. Uploader fix it
Same difference at the point of discussion
@@Sterlingcape I'm sure the Egyptians and Persians would not agree with you
@@Sterlingcape Persians and Egyptians are not the same people
LMAO saw that and I searched youtube with Cambyses lost army...still took me here though
Technically governor of Babylonia, then second King of Kings of the Achaemenids. During Cambyses II's reign, he conquered northern Africa, including Egypt, where he was known as king of upper and lower Egypt. He reigned from Egypt for a few years before returning to Persia to fight a rebellion.
Ever thought about looking for them in the Red sea?
Carl, just journeying through.
When he wondered the desert trying to justify his life, he missed his mummy
Bert Osterberg Excellent!
@@Mark-yb1sp except its wandered.
This was not what I thought it would be about. I thought it would be about the army of Egypt that was destroyed during the time of Moses. I think that would would be a far more interesting event to study.
Fantastic. I fell asleep immediately. No more restless nights!
I think there is more intrigued here than meets the eye. Imagine the vinegar running through the veins of the defeated and humiliated Egyptians. Somehow they managed to acquire a guide for this Persian army that led them out into the desert, into a trap here possibly ambushed or simply left exposed and lost in a hostile climate. Check a win here for the Egyptians. There is a multi million dollar drama franchise nested here.
There is a legend of the Chinese emperor who sent his official to find the elixir of life. In those days, those emperor want to live forever. The official, knowing that he and is entire family were dead as there was no way to find the elixir. That was the penalty for failure. He asked the emperor for 500 young men and maidens and ships and supplies and left and sailed to what is now Japan and established a settlement there and never came back. So actually the people of Japan are Chinese. That is of course for those scientists to prove. It is way beyond my pay grade.
This story may have truth. The central Japanese population has a surprising degree of haplogroup O3a5, which is Han Chinese. This is not explained by the standard version of migration from Korea.
Bobby Yee i believe you but they must have mixed with other people there or something because chinese and Japanese people look completely different than each other. I know most people would disagree because they think all Asians look the same but they definitely do not look the same. If you have paid attention to how Asian people look you would have seen that you can easily tell where they are from just by their facial features. Just like you can tell the difference between certain white nationalities like Polish, Ukrainian, and Russians.
@@katiekat4457 The native Japanese were more like native Taiwanese (Polynesian).
I've heard that the early Chinese were Caucasian
@Jerry dee Bloody Scots get everywhere!
50,000 is just too perfect a number. How about 50,383 then I can believe it more.
Excellent!
I still don’t get why they said the army was lost in a sand storm and all the other things that were in the story. But i am glad he followed his passion and was rewarded by picking the dullest time period of egypt
He's mistaken. Herodotus is writing about the Great Psamtik 1st. Rising up to conquer the Assyrian empire of Essarhaddon and Asherbinpal. From the story of Thebes and Temple of Amun. Psamtik regained complete control of upper and lower Egypt. There was no other Egyptian warrior king like him since Thutmoses III
This is the most circuitous discussion Ive heard in a while.
The title shouldn't be Disappearance of a 50.000 Persian Army?! very shallow talk.
13 mins later and still waiting for him to start.
This is why I can never get into prehistoric stuff. No matter how much you read and research, you still
Don’t really know what happened and you're left feeling unfulfilled.
This isn't prehistoric. He references Herodotus repeatedly.
@Barb Mulvaney Dumbest comment today.
when you think you're onto something, then begin to question the relevance of your work when people actually stop to listen, then realize you just needed someone to listen to you
That's very interesting but I don't understand why you need believe his theory with no evidence over the legends.
Johnson, My thoughts exactly! No evidence to back it up. I watched a Nat-Geo video about a group that did travel to an area that bronze-age bones and weapons were discovered earlier that was not more than a days journey from the armies oasis destination but they were in no condition to attack anything, sand storm or not! All the articles found dated to about the time that that army disappeared. Not proof positive but pretty close.
@@willyam9735 I wish you would elaborate more and mention a link or how to find this video. What do you mean "No condition to attack"? It sounds like that video is far more informative and useful then this TED-Talk-Theory.
he told that the king name that was mentioned in that temple was later mentioned as another king of egypt , it simply explains what happenned in that desert and to the rest of invaders ! Sooner or later the battlefield will be found , but we already know what will they find there . Archeolagical timelines are not whole projects , different people in different times will prove them with excavations . What he says is that the 50k didnt go to sky or was lost in the desert , he basically means the mystery is solved
It also happened for second Persian army which was big fleet of ship to Greece destination with 200.000 men. Never arrived
A bit misleading, but, very intriguing.
Listen to the whole thing.. for your sake.
This is my professor at University Leiden 😃
Discovering a new Egyptian king.... probably pretty nice...
Per Sørlie lmao there were so many! And they did nothing but kill people and boss others around by lying about how fancy they are!
The Persian Army was more likely to have been 5000 men strong a large number in ancient times and remember the 40% infant mortality rate which lasted into Victorian times.
"Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army | Olaf Kaper | TEDxEde
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The title I think refers to the army of Cambyses, who was Persian, not Egyptian.
Yea Cyrus the greats son.
I think the most likely scenario is Cambyses was quite successful in his conquests in Egypt and neighbouring territories in Africa as archaeology and other sources suggests.
However, he was assassinated and his brother usurped the throne, only for him to then be overthrown by a group of nobles, one of them being the upcoming Darius the Great.
Egyptian fight him
@@ahmadfathy7994 Correct. Cambyses fought many people.
The title "Disappearance of a 50.000 Egyptian Army" and the content of the speech, somewhat of a mismatch for me. I was expecting archaeological facts and science research about the lost army. Very blunt ending as well.
Anyway next time, more about the army please, so what really happened ? Any more facts about the battles that took place? thanks
Where can I buy one of those?
The Persians were attacked at the Dachla Oasis by the man who later became Petubastis III reclaiming a great part of Northern Egypt. The Persians later took it back again. As usual, this has all been recorded by the Egyptians on tiles near the place of the battle. The Egyptians also had recorded much of the Bible that has since been doctored and abridged by later Christians.
Do you have link or more info on your bible comment?
@@abrahamlife The current day Bible contains both an Old and a New Testament which is also a book possessed by Islam. As you know, the Tora is merely the first five books of the Bible's Old Testament. "The Gods created man in their own image" This is explained by saying God is a triad and thus plural--3 in 1. So "Jehovah" is made of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. Judaism does not believe in Jesus or that God has yet to arrive on Earth in the flesh. I own pages in Egyptian on animal skin which reads completely different than the current Bible. One scroll being my favorite of Moses migrating across the water. The Bible states 500,000 man slaves plus their women and children left bondage from Egypt. There were not even that many Egyptians in all of Egypt at that time. Slaves were not used by Egyptians for building projects. There are many reports regarding the Persians supposed disappearance. Look at those that discuss the Dachla Oasis. Look at translations on Egyptian tile at the time. Similar to Iraq where christian and Jewish USA murdered half a million, they now want to murder a similar amount of Persians using more "false flag" accusations. Iran has the second largest population of Jews in the Middle East. Seems Israel learned how to treat Shia Muslims from the Germans who caused 6 million Jews to either die or migrate across the Globe. 20 million Russians died at the same time and nearly all the camps were built for them while two were used for the Jews. Do not see the Russians demanding favors and museums to honor them.
@Barb Mulvaney My comments on the Bible were merely reflecting its own inaccuracies. A good source to follow would be professor Bart D. Ehrman. These are all well known and my comment about the animal skin was merely part of Egyptian copies of the bible all known to scholars already. No one is hiding this information with the exception of Christian leaders and the Roman Catholic Church.
@@littlestonliest1186 isn't bart a new testament scholar? Does he know anything about Old testament?
@@NA-oc7eq Best way to find out is to watch his videos, read his books, or take a class. Yes, Bart is an expert on the whole Bible.
Seheruibre Padibastet, better known with his Hellenised name Petubastis III (or IV, depending on the scholars) was a native Ancient Egyptian ruler, c. 522 - 520 BC, who revolted against Persians.
college history professor said Herodotus would often lie to fill in the gaps if he didnt have the full truth and other historians of the era said he was a bit of a liar/exaggerator
true. A lot of what he writes are second accounts from other people and were told orally. The stories are bound to have some embellishments. Plus the thing is, Herodotus also believes in mystical things (just like most other people back then). So he writes down things that to us are obviously false, thinking that it indeed happened.
Wow, we're back at the start!
Man you gotta be seriously anti-Amun to send 50,000 dudes to burn down his house.
Well, Amonians are very offensive. Wait, that's ammonia.
@@Mr5thWave Yeah, Ammonites were the first ones using ammo. Super offensive in those times.
@@Mr5thWave atleast they didnt kill people to expand territory , i have to say ammonians were pretty chill
Several armies have vanished; strange.
I will never get this 13 minutes of my life back.
The MAGIC of Egypt lives on.
I found them ...
They pooled their money and invested in property near Malibu Cal. Then when the time was right for their investment sold off the property and now are retired and living well in Florida .
Well at least some of the people there look like Persian mummies .
Damn I wish this talk was an order of magnitude longer.