Yeah, that leapt out at me too. And trying to frame his older brother. Idk if his older brother abused him or not; that's no excuse for his behavior. He's fortunate that anyone in his family wants to speak to him.
I also find it ironic that from jail he wanted his brother to make sure his daughter didn't hate men because he's not able to see her. Funny, he's protecting his daughter from people like him.
I was hoping Kenny would ask about his trying to frame the other brother, Kelly. I was wondering if Chris was lying about the abuse he claims he suffered from Kelly as a kid.
That voicemail 🙄 "Hey babe. I know that you are alive and i would never hurt you so please stay away from my brother because he's a bad guy who will hurt you." It's like those 911 calls where they give an alibi rather than just ask for help. So transparent.
Man how about that! Talking about a good brother! After all the bad stuff he said about him here is the good brother showing what it takes to be a real brother 😮😮😮
@@jonboy9734 police don’t help but calling them documents the abuse. Which you might need in the future, you never know. I’d the police are good for anything, it’s that.
I thought the call was very humanizing. We’re all humans. Faced with different difficulties and decisions. I just thank my lucky stars I wasn’t plagued with the ability to murder. And that none of my family is, so far lol.
Sorry to say but those are the kind of people who would sacrifice a piece of themselves thinking the "bad one" would eventually change for good... This does Not always go accordingly because No one can change his/herself accept themselves. From the phone conversation between the brothers, I could see they had a great upbringing, but the evil dude decided to go the drugs route in his adult life. Don't Do Drugs Kids, It Kills...
I think it's amazing. What's done is done and I wouldn't blame anyone for cutting off contact, but if you can reach out when they are at their lowest...hey hopefully they can change for the better and he's sincere about seeking God.
Yeah I wonder what the older brother Kelly thinks of his youngest brother Kenny, being such good buds with the brother you tried to frame him for murder.
@@reignman30 I think Kenny just wanted to make sure that Chris had *someone* in his life to keep him from committing suicide or something. It seems clear that Kenny knows Chris is where he deserves to be, but he still loves him as a brother. I'm sure Kelly and Kenny have an even better relationship, since they don't seem to be psychopaths.
@@amityislandchum Well, Kelly is the oldest of the three, so if it's true that he was a bully to one of his younger brothers, he probably treated them both like that. Maybe the two younger brothers decided to stick together and back each other up after that. Just a thought... because I don't know if there was ever any proof that the bullying story is even true.
@@amityislandchumthat’s exactly what I believe. Loving your sibling through something like this is rough. But rather see them behind bars than to be dead.
@@jeanbonneau10 Staying with an abusive man is a terrible role model for children. Luckily you guys weren't his next punching bag. Main reason to leave an abuser, protect your kids!!!!!!!!!!!!
His brother has reminded me/ showed me just how impactful forgiveness is. Chris ruined his life, his daughters, and very sadly Veronicas but Kenny saved his soul. He spent years in a terrible cycle and only improved his life once his brother made a simple phone call.
@@PG-wz7by That's how I feel every time I watch these interrogations. 90% of their babble is irrelevant. Those detectives have to pretend to symapthize (empathize, really) all while trying to get the real information they need. Tedious is the perfect word for it.
Seeing the prison calls is so wild because he seems like a normal guy. Showing an emotional side, chatting with his family, laughing. But we're all reminded that Veronica will never be able to chat or laugh with her family again because of his anger issues, and that his love and loyalty to his family clearly did not extend to Kelly, who he was happy to frame for Veronica's murder. This wasn't a one-off either, bc he clearly had been abusing her for some time. Some people can flip a switch and hide their evil ways. I hate seeing him laugh and talk anything staying positive knowing what he did to her. 😢
@@ddahstan6876 My therapist said to me once, "Take away the addiction and mental illness and what do you have?" Drugs didn't run after him, pry open his mouth and jump down his throat or go in his veins or make him smoke it, he made that choice, just like he made the choice to do away with Veronica and leave her children without a mother. He is evil until his last breath. "Happy and positive again." SMH. 🙄
Your dad's not upset because he can't be with you in person dude, he's upset because you abused a woman for years and then finally murdered her. I despise this guy.
It's probably both honestly, he is upset and I'm sure very disappointed but it is still his child and not being with his son ever again is still probably very upsetting.
Sorry but she was stupid for having anything to do with him after he got out of prison. She had an order of protection and she allowed him to go around it. Sorry but people get what they pay for.
@nEthing4Her It doesn’t need to be one or the other, man. False dichotomy. We can acknowledge her choices led to her death without blaming her for a murder someone else carried out on her. Murder is always a choice.
@@WhatALovelyDisasterexactly. Everyone knows it was unwise of her (to put it nicely) to let him back in. That doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on the person that actually did the murder.
The stupidness and illogical thinking has cost them everything. Kindness is just a cover for people who don’t want to insult. It’s the reason women keep acting stupid nobody wants to hurt their feelings!!
Evil folk are cowards who always prey on the good decent folk , the good news is the good far out way the bad it's just the bad folk make a lot of noise , you don't hear about the good folk.
it's ridiculous. some people actually have a grand ol time in jail.. i was in jail for 2 months and it was the worst period of my life and it was probably considered a "good" county jail. 5 minutes felt like an hour. time just goes so slow. meanwhile 95% of the people are laughing and being loud and banging on their chests and rapping. some are working out and just having a good ol time... Jail is fun for narcissists.
@@humanbean3 They don't have to life. They get three meals, lodging, and don't have to hide who they are among like minded people. They can work and get an education. Then dumped back into the county they offended in. Have a reputation in. Can't find work, lodging, offend, repeat. It's a broken system that will not rehabilitate. Rehabilitated offenders do not keep paying in.
Anyone that has ever been around an addict, he is exactly how they are. They lie, steal, blame everyone else and think they are the smartest person in the world. I had to cut off all ties to a family member because of it. We fought like crazy because I called him out every single time and he couldn’t stand it that a challenged him on his BS. It’s amazing how much chaos one person can cause. It affects the entire family in one way or another. It’s hard, but you need to, to protect your own sanity.
Can I just say though, his brother sees through the addiction and gives him a second chance and he gets praised for doing so. Veronica did the same, she loved him for the person he was underneath the imperfections and he killed her and people blame her for not leaving in the comments. Without thinking maybe she was an amazing human being who loved him like family as well. Maybe they fault her for cheating on him, but it’s not something you can really fault someone for when they’re being treated like shit. You can love someone to death, but when they put you through emotional turmoil you go crazy. We all would. It’s so easy to throw stones from our glass houses.
“to know what men are capable of”…? Do you think she should know what women are capable of? People are capable of the full spectrum from incredible and wonderful and loving to shocking, horrendous, violent and cruel…men and women both. Sounds like maybe you have a man-hating thing going on there…. The best thing for that dudes daughter would be to never know a thing about him and be given a chance to grow up with good people who love and raise her well without the baggage and or concern that could come from knowing your genetics come from an evil murderous scumbag. But I can’t help but be worried fo the girl regardless because assuming she’s being raised by her mother, one must assume that means being raised by someone who mysteriously have some issues of her own if she would involve herself, and have a child with someone like this guy.
This is one of the very few good things to come of my mom watching Law & Order: SVU around me for as long as I can remember. My parents wanted me to be dependent on them for my entire life, so they didn’t teach me about self with. A show about r@p3 and murder did, tho.
@@alexismyers6053 I hear You... and here's a support for You, thousands of Miles away - just think about that for a sec... YOU'LL BE IN MY PRAYERS TONIGHT, believe me! Love & Respect to You from Serbia, Europe!
She thought she'd be safe with white people. Truth is not one of them cared about her and threw her memory away like trash after she passed. What horrible people.
Yeah I feel like the only normal person here, does nobody else think it's insane the cops STARTED WITH A FLASH BANG??? So I can make any accusations I want, as long as I leave evidence that might prove it, they'll attack whoever I point out? Insane.
EXACTLY! That brother calling though he wasn't the one framed needs to wake up. Wrong is wrong and he better not ever not look over his shoulder whether hes in jail or not because i can see a how manipulative he is though some may not. Murders murder regarding that call and all that support even ifs fam never over look that theirs clearly no line when it comes to blood to some so he needs to be careful especially when he get out one brother on the call. Just saying.Yep
Everyone is getting the brother thing confused. Chris is the killer brother. Kelly is the one he tried to frame. Kenny is the younger brother who was calling the jail speaking to Chris the killer. Three brothers here. Kelly, wasn’t the one calling his brother in jail. I’m sure he (Kelly) hates Chris even more now and has no desire to call his brother who tried to frame him for murder lol
If my sister tried to frame me for murder, she would be dead to me. I’d never speak to her again. RiP to the victim and my condolences go to her family! ❤
Lol right?! 😂 And then when he said he was super smart haha. You could tell when he was really lying because he started stuttering like crazy. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is.
This is why the bail system is broken. If you’re violent and can afford it, you’ll get released. If you’re broke and non violent you’ll stay in a cell. If your charges are violent you should be behind bars til your trial.
Chris is like "Dont choose him over me, he uses drugs, dont choose drugs over me:.... lol..yeah as if choosing a woman beater and choke artist is really the better option. The Nerve on this dude
Makes you wonder how big of an asshole the older brother is when the youngest brother and dad still seem pretty chummy with the abusive murder brother who tried to frame him.
15:46 "I am an honest person... I am not full of shit... I have chosen to be a good person" Proceeds to do the most dishonest, full of shit, terrible things.
Because they're arrogant. They think they're the smartest person in every room, when in reality, they're not nearly as smart as they think they are >:) These type of abusers self-aggrandize to the max, and are poorly impulsive and not as consequental-thinking as they may believe they are due to their need for extremely heightened stimulation.
Likely, he was so insane over his possession, aka 'love', that the thought of losing his possession (victim) trumps all rational. Narcissists go insane once they think they lose their grip.
It's funny when these criminal masterminds have to tell us how smart they are. While sitting in a police station. For a murder charge. Where he's the most obvious suspect. But he's incredibly smart.
@@danielh.5116 Nope. Irregardless is a portmanteau of regardless and irrespective. Use either of those words instead. You can make the argument that since people use it that "its a word" but that does not change its origin as a portmanteau of those other words. It is only around due to the cumulative mistakes of other people. Either way - if you use it people will think you are a charlatan. Just say irrespective or regardless.
@@commiecomrade2644 LOL.. Well seeing as it has been a word recognized since 1912, I think I'll keep using it. There are much more egregious words or phrases that should be removed from our vocabularies than this one. Thanks for your opinion though.
Yeah, that and “we’re in love”….But “she’s obsessed with me” and “ we’re poison for each other”…but “I asked her to run away with me”….even though “she’s obsessed with me”….😂
He was losing her and he knew it! Narcissists see you as a POSSESSION not a PERSON; so, he was not going to let her go. Leaving a narcissist can be extremely DANGEROUS! Please be careful ladies and gentlemen.
What a nice man to drop off your ‘ love of my life’ off at their new loves house who happens to be your brother. There was a man in my town who framed his brother for the murder of their parents. One brother had always been in trouble and was the black sheep of the family,the other brother was the good son. When the dust settled it was the ‘good’ brother who had killed his parents for their estate ,he had framed his brother because he resented all the times his parents had bailed out his brother.
If you aren’t related or directly affected by the trauma of the crime, can you please share some names or other details about the case? I’m just genuinely curious and am sure others are as well.
I've watched several videos of arrests where the cop gives contradictory instructions to the suspect. I don't know if it's an adrenaline rush causing it or what, but it is awfully strange behavior.
@@jacklow9611there was a man killed bc the cops gave contradicting instructions, also the man was drunk, but you could see in the video he was honestly trying to comply and follow directions. It was investigated, and I believe the cop ended up getting off.
@@CharlotteChambers91Daniel Shaver is probably the man you’re thinking of. The cop was acquitted, fired, then rehired so he could claim PTSD from the incident and retire, settled for $31k/yr tax free for life. The victim’s wife was awarded an $8M settlement. Mesa, AZ.
My POS brother stole $100,000 from me when my dad died. We didn’t have any problems up until that point and we were both in our mid 40’s. You never know what people are capable of.
My mom gave my other siblings their house but they wanted me to put mine in her estate to split with everyone!? She had to put it in her will that I get it! I know what my siblings are capable of and my eyes are wide open. And we're in our 50s and 60s!! Nope!
I don’t know why but something about you switching to that second camera angle in the interview room that shows only the two cops staring dead faced at him while he rambles just sends me 😂❤ good work, editor.
First of all, to both of you, it's God. Second, OC, you're provoked by people finding God in prison after committing murder. There's no saving that, you say. If you by that mean that there's no way for a murderer to find God and be forgiven or saved by God, you're wrong. If you find God and ask him for forgiveness, he'll forgive you no matter what you've done. Isn't that the whole concept of the Bible. Forgiveness? Jesus died on the cross from all of our sins.
For anyone confused, there are three brothers total! Kelly is the one who was framed, Kenny is the one who video calls him! I would hope Kelly never speaks a word to him until he has passed over from rotting in prison.
Probably not. Families sometimes just support one of their one without condoning what he did. They're probably saying it's not him, it's the drugs. Or they could be thinking if Kelly hadn't slept with her she wouldn't be dead, or blaming her for bringing this on herself by two-timing brothers. People are weird like that
Complete conjecture but I get the feeling that the family made a lot of allowances for Chris that they shouldn’t have. And he manipulated the hell out of that. And they probably felt obligated
Why WHY do the women CONTINUE to provide lodgings and help to men who abuse them??!?!?! RUN away, RUN FAST, Don't give them money!!! Don't help them If he's abused you 100 TIMES get out of there!!! LEAVE!!! LOCK your doors and don't open it for them. Change the locks! Don't answer their calls! Do whatever it takes!!!
His brother is a better man than me. I feel like if my brother tried to frame one of my other brothers for murder, that's about the time we stopped being brothers. Edit: commenter pointed out that it was a different brother. I edited my comment to fix the fact I missed.
That wasn't the older brother he tried to frame, it was his younger brother. 23.01 Confusingly his older brother is Kelly, the younger one who phones is Kenny.
How the hell did he think the emails were going to cover his ass after he just went to a church and reported her dead and stuffed in a car. You literally knew she was dead then did suspicious ass shit. 😅😂
I had a boyfriend that spent a few months n jail once call me up saying he was about to escape. They were painting inside n left a door leading right out into freedom propped open to air out the day room. He wanted me to go pick him up. I refused n told him if he did run he would be running till they caught him again. He stuck it out and I ended up fixing his life and repairing his family relationships until I realized that he was only dragging me down and using me to take care of him. Took me about 20 yrs to learn to stop completely taking care of men.
If you weren’t even expecting your family to reach out to you ever again, you’re definitely guilty. If you’re in the county jail and you’re wrongly accused of something awful, you’d definitely be checking for your family for support. Or so they’d at least know what’s going on with you. The fact that he didn’t even check the visitation log, he knows he’s guilty.
15:58 "I've chosen to be a good person, I'm extremely smart"he thinks he's the smartest one in the room. I think he's a narcissist. I'm no psychiatrist but I've heard that word used and it probably fits here.
Interesting to hear him speak, he also puts himself as a victim. That he would lie to his parents and say he was injured on his bike instead of saying his brother abused him. He's an interesting soul. He gets by manipulating others and he thinks he's more intelligent than most and he probably has some smarts, but he's no match against evidence.
A LOT of people who have never been in this situation ask the same question. It's not always easy for the victim to get out of the situation. Often times there are deep emotional issues that cause someone to stay or keep going back.
Some departments have small budgets, or mismanage funds, and are running outdated cameras because they don’t have the means to replace them. My local PD barely has enough money to get their vehicles repaired. A town of only 900 people. Our taxes are barely enough to cover the three part time officers that the department employs.
That is impossible... Sadly. Half the country doesn't believe that's actually a real thing. They believe the woman should submit to the man in a relationship at all times. Even if there is abuse. Hell, half the country is trying to get rid of divorce making it impossible for abused victims to run from their abusers.
No, they don't. Most of the time, people have no real desire to help or even listen. My sons and I went through hell, and I still have PTSD with certain smells, flashbacks, or even thinking of the good times will mess with my psyche. Nobody truly gets it unless they've been there themselves. When the police really don't care, trust me when I say no one honestly will help you.
@@Dominicanadaa are you serious? Just Google who wants to get rid of divorce... Do you live under a rock? Doesn't matter about this case specifically... What matters is the people have the right to leave abusive relationships legally.
People don’t realize how hard it is to leave a mentally abusive relationship. I was in one and didn’t realize it until after 12 yrs. Chris sounded very heartwarming to Kenny over the phone but was willing to destroy his life. I think he put that front with Veronica too. RIP Veronica.
Your an adult. Unfortunately its your responsibility for yourself and your kids to leave abusers. For kids theres no excuse, adults need to do better becayse they KNOW better
WOW! The extent to which this creator went to produce this video is amazing. Thank you!! The emotions I experienced throughout your presentation was eye opening!
There was too much of that in this video. I had to fast forward through it. I do NOT want to see him having a good time with his brother. Once I realised Kenny was genuine, good for him, but I had no interest in seeing Chris happy in any way at all.
My uncle tried to get back at my dad by having one of my dad's exes claim he graped her. My dad went to court and ended up with a protection order and couldn't be within 500 feet of her. My dad hated my uncle for about 5 years. This happened like 7 years before I was born. So yeah, it happens all the time.
Too many people enabled this fool. Many warning signs before it got to homicide. i think all people involved in ignoring the previous warnings should be charged, but that's just me.
The irony of him being worried about his daughter having issues with men in the future…
he's example of what not to go near
His daughter is so fortunate that he's not going to be raising her.
Not irony that’s being a hypocrite
Yeah, that leapt out at me too. And trying to frame his older brother. Idk if his older brother abused him or not; that's no excuse for his behavior. He's fortunate that anyone in his family wants to speak to him.
I also find it ironic that from jail he wanted his brother to make sure his daughter didn't hate men because he's not able to see her. Funny, he's protecting his daughter from people like him.
Hes incredibly lucky to have his brother's love & loyalty. Something he does NOT deserve after what he did to his other brother
That phone call between the two brothers said a lot about Kenny. I guess he wasn’t such a bad brother after all.
Seems like Kenny is another one of Chris’ victims.
@@heatheral-hammadi3046That was his other brother named Kelly that he tried to frame.
I was hoping Kenny would ask about his trying to frame the other brother, Kelly. I was wondering if Chris was lying about the abuse he claims he suffered from Kelly as a kid.
So is his brother also going to be a role model for Veronica Sarinana's two motherless sons?
That voicemail 🙄
"Hey babe. I know that you are alive and i would never hurt you so please stay away from my brother because he's a bad guy who will hurt you."
It's like those 911 calls where they give an alibi rather than just ask for help. So transparent.
THIS!
Obviously.
Man how about that! Talking about a good brother! After all the bad stuff he said about him here is the good brother showing what it takes to be a real brother 😮😮😮
Babes 😂
That’s what family does, I think everyone would do that.
The FIRST time they hit you, call the police, press charges and don’t look back.
Ideally, yes. There is a lot of other types of abuse, control and isolation that happens before they actually put hands on you though..
Police never help. Just leave.
Make me a samwich and stfu......
@@jonboy9734 police don’t help but calling them documents the abuse. Which you might need in the future, you never know. I’d the police are good for anything, it’s that.
@@MissVictress good point
the irony of him "worrying about his daughter" IM GLAD SHES SAFE FROM HIM
Me too he's a monster! I hope his little girl is never made to see him. She is better off never knowing him. I hope she has the best life bless her.
And then the nerve of him asking the brother he tried to frame to watch over her.
I know! He had shades of normal there with asking his bro to be there for her. Scary he would do something like this, my guess is meth.
Right! And just look at that tuff guy crying like a baby in the interrogation room.
Wonder how hed feel about someone doing his daughter like that.
His younger brother and dad still staying in contact with him after he tried to frame his other brother FOR MURDER is WILD....
It's family
I thought the call was very humanizing. We’re all humans. Faced with different difficulties and decisions. I just thank my lucky stars I wasn’t plagued with the ability to murder. And that none of my family is, so far lol.
That's what family is
Sorry to say but those are the kind of people who would sacrifice a piece of themselves thinking the "bad one" would eventually change for good... This does Not always go accordingly because No one can change his/herself accept themselves.
From the phone conversation between the brothers, I could see they had a great upbringing, but the evil dude decided to go the drugs route in his adult life. Don't Do Drugs Kids, It Kills...
I think it's amazing. What's done is done and I wouldn't blame anyone for cutting off contact, but if you can reach out when they are at their lowest...hey hopefully they can change for the better and he's sincere about seeking God.
The way he treated his bro, he did not deserve his bro.
Yeah I wonder what the older brother Kelly thinks of his youngest brother Kenny, being such good buds with the brother you tried to frame him for murder.
@@reignman30 I think Kenny just wanted to make sure that Chris had *someone* in his life to keep him from committing suicide or something. It seems clear that Kenny knows Chris is where he deserves to be, but he still loves him as a brother. I'm sure Kelly and Kenny have an even better relationship, since they don't seem to be psychopaths.
“To forgive Devine. “
@@amityislandchum Well, Kelly is the oldest of the three, so if it's true that he was a bully to one of his younger brothers, he probably treated them both like that. Maybe the two younger brothers decided to stick together and back each other up after that. Just a thought... because I don't know if there was ever any proof that the bullying story is even true.
@@amityislandchumthat’s exactly what I believe. Loving your sibling through something like this is rough. But rather see them behind bars than to be dead.
Why did they KEEP LETTING HIM GET AWAY with abusing her???? Police and courts are guilty too!
The judges are the ones with the power & sway to let people go
Why did she kept going back to him?
@@jamesjohn9183 great question however, my mom was abused and stayed. But that was for kids. They didn't have any together. Good question
Why did she continue to stay with him?
@@jeanbonneau10 Staying with an abusive man is a terrible role model for children. Luckily you guys weren't his next punching bag. Main reason to leave an abuser, protect your kids!!!!!!!!!!!!
His brother has reminded me/ showed me just how impactful forgiveness is.
Chris ruined his life, his daughters, and very sadly Veronicas but Kenny saved his soul.
He spent years in a terrible cycle and only improved his life once his brother made a simple phone call.
You are DELUSIONAL... he is only using his younger brother.
He isn't the brother he tried frame..
"Words dont just stumble out of my mouth"
Proceeds to babble incoherently.
As soon as I heard this I came to comment this and immediately saw you already did 😂
@@damiantellez5841Same! 😂
I was 4th then 😭
I noticed that too...as soon as he said it he started stumbling. What a moron!
lol Was anyone actually paying attention? He was just giving an example of it.
'He's a bad person'
Said the murderer.
Felt so disgusted seeing the phone calls between them after hearing him throw his bro under the bus like that. Coward pos
Total Freudian slip he was describing himself he's so full of shxt and high af on that voicemail!
Projection is confession.
I often imagine how tedious it is for detectives to wade through this bs when suspects such as Chris spin out their stupid narratives.
@@PG-wz7by That's how I feel every time I watch these interrogations. 90% of their babble is irrelevant. Those detectives have to pretend to symapthize (empathize, really) all while trying to get the real information they need. Tedious is the perfect word for it.
Seeing the prison calls is so wild because he seems like a normal guy. Showing an emotional side, chatting with his family, laughing. But we're all reminded that Veronica will never be able to chat or laugh with her family again because of his anger issues, and that his love and loyalty to his family clearly did not extend to Kelly, who he was happy to frame for Veronica's murder. This wasn't a one-off either, bc he clearly had been abusing her for some time. Some people can flip a switch and hide their evil ways. I hate seeing him laugh and talk anything staying positive knowing what he did to her. 😢
@@ddahstan6876 My therapist said to me once, "Take away the addiction and mental illness and what do you have?" Drugs didn't run after him, pry open his mouth and jump down his throat or go in his veins or make him smoke it, he made that choice, just like he made the choice to do away with Veronica and leave her children without a mother.
He is evil until his last breath. "Happy and positive again." SMH. 🙄
Forgiveness is one of the hardest lessons to understand.
@@OSA5000 not really. it's easy to forgive someone who's wrongs never affected you in the end.
Your dad's not upset because he can't be with you in person dude, he's upset because you abused a woman for years and then finally murdered her. I despise this guy.
It's probably both honestly, he is upset and I'm sure very disappointed but it is still his child and not being with his son ever again is still probably very upsetting.
Sorry but she was stupid for having anything to do with him after he got out of prison. She had an order of protection and she allowed him to go around it. Sorry but people get what they pay for.
@@nEthing4HerExactly! It's sad that her two sons from previous relationships weren't enough for her.
@nEthing4Her It doesn’t need to be one or the other, man. False dichotomy. We can acknowledge her choices led to her death without blaming her for a murder someone else carried out on her. Murder is always a choice.
@@WhatALovelyDisasterexactly. Everyone knows it was unwise of her (to put it nicely) to let him back in. That doesn't mean we shouldn't focus on the person that actually did the murder.
Can I give a prop 🤛 to the security camera....the biggest snitch in the entire world
Amen.
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Yes! I wonder if that camera didn't exist what would end up happening. At least the brother could prove he never left his home all night.
@@sharonm.t.2492 the world would be a very dark place without cameras....so many cases would go cold.
Hard to argue wth the camera witness.
The kindness of women have costed so many good women their lives. Please, first sign of danger, RUN!
The stupidness and illogical thinking has cost them everything. Kindness is just a cover for people who don’t want to insult. It’s the reason women keep acting stupid nobody wants to hurt their feelings!!
The amount of lives women ruin is much much higher
The worst of the worst of men doesn't compare to the majority of women
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Evil folk are cowards who always prey on the good decent folk , the good news is the good far out way the bad it's just the bad folk make a lot of noise , you don't hear about the good folk.
Him laughing and being happy makes me sick. RIP Veronica.
it's ridiculous. some people actually have a grand ol time in jail.. i was in jail for 2 months and it was the worst period of my life and it was probably considered a "good" county jail. 5 minutes felt like an hour. time just goes so slow. meanwhile 95% of the people are laughing and being loud and banging on their chests and rapping. some are working out and just having a good ol time... Jail is fun for narcissists.
@@humanbean3 They don't have to life. They get three meals, lodging, and don't have to hide who they are among like minded people. They can work and get an education. Then dumped back into the county they offended in. Have a reputation in. Can't find work, lodging, offend, repeat. It's a broken system that will not rehabilitate. Rehabilitated offenders do not keep paying in.
I hope his family know he's literally just sat there manipulating them LOL. absolute mugs.
@@anyways42 not true though. im talking county jail and there were plenty of first time people
@@anyways42 he said jail not prison so no they aren't in there for a long time
He said his brother was a bad person after killing her. What a lowlife!
Anyone that has ever been around an addict, he is exactly how they are. They lie, steal, blame everyone else and think they are the smartest person in the world. I had to cut off all ties to a family member because of it. We fought like crazy because I called him out every single time and he couldn’t stand it that a challenged him on his BS. It’s amazing how much chaos one person can cause. It affects the entire family in one way or another. It’s hard, but you need to, to protect your own sanity.
Family member or Boyfriend?
Same.
God bless.
Been there done that. It sucks 😢
SO TRUE
Can I just say though, his brother sees through the addiction and gives him a second chance and he gets praised for doing so. Veronica did the same, she loved him for the person he was underneath the imperfections and he killed her and people blame her for not leaving in the comments. Without thinking maybe she was an amazing human being who loved him like family as well.
Maybe they fault her for cheating on him, but it’s not something you can really fault someone for when they’re being treated like shit. You can love someone to death, but when they put you through emotional turmoil you go crazy. We all would. It’s so easy to throw stones from our glass houses.
He’s worried about his daughter having ‘underlying issues with men’? Maybe she should know what men are capable of, Chris being a prime example.
So ironic. He doesn’t want his daughter to be like veronica and date men like him?
women are also capable of that kind of shit, unfortunately... let's not put that on the whole gender
“to know what men are capable of”…? Do you think she should know what women are capable of? People are capable of the full spectrum from incredible and wonderful and loving to shocking, horrendous, violent and cruel…men and women both. Sounds like maybe you have a man-hating thing going on there…. The best thing for that dudes daughter would be to never know a thing about him and be given a chance to grow up with good people who love and raise her well without the baggage and or concern that could come from knowing your genetics come from an evil murderous scumbag. But I can’t help but be worried fo the girl regardless because assuming she’s being raised by her mother, one must assume that means being raised by someone who mysteriously have some issues of her own if she would involve herself, and have a child with someone like this guy.
At least she’s safe from him for now
@@gatdemun yeah.... lol they deleted my comment about women being capable of this type of evil too ?? :> That's wild :>
Someone taught Veronica she wasn’t worth anything. Unfortunately, she believed it. RIP.
This is one of the very few good things to come of my mom watching Law & Order: SVU around me for as long as I can remember. My parents wanted me to be dependent on them for my entire life, so they didn’t teach me about self with. A show about r@p3 and murder did, tho.
@@alexismyers6053 I'm glad you learned that before it was too late.
@@alexismyers6053 I hear You... and here's a support for You, thousands of Miles away - just think about that for a sec... YOU'LL BE IN MY PRAYERS TONIGHT, believe me!
Love & Respect to You from Serbia, Europe!
And most times they not worth anything and that's the reason they can be with someone like this dirt bag.
She thought she'd be safe with white people. Truth is not one of them cared about her and threw her memory away like trash after she passed. What horrible people.
Low self esteem can be so dangerous. Rip to her. Her poor babies.
Chris tells the detectives “I’m very smart “. They sit in silence . 😂
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They were too busy considering going to the libary to become as smart as Chris.
@@bojohannesen4352liberry 😂
Lolol! I totally noticed the same thing!! 🤣🤣
@@bojohannesen4352 That fact that this bozo claimed going to libraries closed the case immediately.
Let’s just say Chris is not as smart as he thinks he is. Rip Veronica🕊️
Anybody that has to tell you they're a smart person, is deluded and a narcissist.
veronica is an adult women who went back to him 20 times. very dumb
🤔 Ya think🤨 I can’t believe he thinks he’s intelligent 😂he was literally giving it up with that story 😢
He's definitely not the sharpest knife in the draw.
@@senorkapowssiteNither was Veronica
Poor Veronica. She didn’t have the self-esteem to make better choices for herself.
for real
He should've gotten life without parole because he would not stop abusing her after getting a chance after chance
Idiot judges
The heavy mouth breathing sounding like a stalker voicemail was enough for me to reconize which brother killed her
Honestly he has one of the most grindingly irritating voices. Open yer fuckin' mouth
Yeah that was a weird gross and sick red flag. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
I appreciate that you put the video calls part into this story. His brother seems to be a great guy. Drugs definitely destroyed Chris and the family.
If that guy didn't have a camera, he'd probably be in jail!
Yeah I feel like the only normal person here, does nobody else think it's insane the cops STARTED WITH A FLASH BANG???
So I can make any accusations I want, as long as I leave evidence that might prove it, they'll attack whoever I point out?
Insane.
EXACTLY! That brother calling though he wasn't the one framed needs to wake up. Wrong is wrong and he better not ever not look over his shoulder whether hes in jail or not because i can see a how manipulative he is though some may not. Murders murder regarding that call and all that support even ifs fam never over look that theirs clearly no line when it comes to blood to some so he needs to be careful especially when he get out one brother on the call. Just saying.Yep
@@AGOTHWEDNESDAYT.V @namayra299 not really - they had dna, it wouldnt match the brother
Nope. Unless the investigator is lazy stupid
@@sundeepbhogal3544He still would have been in jail until that dna evidence came back. The camera exonerated him same day.
Everyone is getting the brother thing confused. Chris is the killer brother. Kelly is the one he tried to frame. Kenny is the younger brother who was calling the jail speaking to Chris the killer. Three brothers here. Kelly, wasn’t the one calling his brother in jail. I’m sure he (Kelly) hates Chris even more now and has no desire to call his brother who tried to frame him for murder lol
Thaaaank you!! It’s driving me crazy lol. Nobody seems to of paid attention😅
Actually there are 4 of them. The other brother is probably in Prison too 😂
Thank you. I was so confused. I didn't realize there were 3 of them.
If my sister tried to frame me for murder, she would be dead to me. I’d never speak to her again. RiP to the victim and my condolences go to her family! ❤
Do they even listen to themselves? "She was my stalker.. she was obsessed with me but she chose my brother" That just sounds stupid..
Lol right?! 😂 And then when he said he was super smart haha. You could tell when he was really lying because he started stuttering like crazy. He’s not as smart as he thinks he is.
@whitneydiggs5439 The fact that he was stuttering while saying words don't stumble out of his mouth...crazy.
This is why the bail system is broken. If you’re violent and can afford it, you’ll get released. If you’re broke and non violent you’ll stay in a cell.
If your charges are violent you should be behind bars til your trial.
Well you're supposed to be innocent until proven guilty, not guilty when charged. In a lot of states there's no bail for murder. But cash is king.
In cases like this it should be guilty until proved otherwise
💯💯💯 And alot of black people think it's the skin color 😂😂😂😂 wake up!! It's if you have the money!!! Look at OJ!!! I rest my case.
Especially n domestic assault cases like these.
@@dennymac850if there is a pattern of violence they should presume violence and a danger to society.
This is a wake-up call to women in those kinds of relationship. You better stay single forever rather than have abusive man
🙏🏻❤️ Who needs enemies with a brother like him!
How is she so obsessed with u but sleeping with ur brother? 😂💀 dude is delusional and projecting
Right? Can she really be his "stalker" when he's begging her to leave his brother and run away with him? The dude thought absolutely nothing out!
"Drop to your knees. Keep walking." Classic.
Chris is like "Dont choose him over me, he uses drugs, dont choose drugs over me:.... lol..yeah as if choosing a woman beater and choke artist is really the better option. The Nerve on this dude
Chris is on drugs too. He’s not one to talk….
We don't even really know for certain if his brother even did drugs!! He is such a compulsive liar. You can't believe a word he says!!
Yes it's great his brother is supportive but Chris murdered another person that was supportive. Hope he spends the rest of his life in prison.
Why is that great!?!
@@DeviceAnathema
It's just an expression, don't be an ass, lol.
Yeah did the 3rd brother not make it known that Chris tried to frame him for murder
it s great. law is law. family is family
Makes you wonder how big of an asshole the older brother is when the youngest brother and dad still seem pretty chummy with the abusive murder brother who tried to frame him.
This channel's production value is phenomenal. Cheers to the production team for the top notch quality.
Seems to go off on tangent/goes into too much detail at times but whatever....
That guy does NOT deserve having any connection with outside world…
During the interrogation he said he's extremely intelligent but he's obviously not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Dunning Kruger showed up
He’s a psychic too! 😂
“Im extremely smart, I don’t stumble over my words”
“I-uh-eh-uh-uh-eh-oh-uh”
15:46 "I am an honest person... I am not full of shit... I have chosen to be a good person"
Proceeds to do the most dishonest, full of shit, terrible things.
Courts don't do enough for abuse victims.
They can only do much. Some of the victims have the opportunity to leave the relationship but still stick around
@@neversayxeverThe state should press charges instead of relying on the victim to press charges.
Actually most women have very poor judgement. There's tons of nice guys but they decide to link up with abusers
Women love dating abusers... Por judgement
She had a restraining order. Yet she rented a hotel and proceeded to go stay with him.
Inflicting the same pain on ur woman that u fear for ur daughter.
I just assume there are cameras everywhere now. Why do killers not assume the same?
Well thank God he didn't in this case. 😭😭
The same reason they never demand a lawyer be present for any questioning...
Because they're arrogant. They think they're the smartest person in every room, when in reality, they're not nearly as smart as they think they are >:) These type of abusers self-aggrandize to the max, and are poorly impulsive and not as consequental-thinking as they may believe they are due to their need for extremely heightened stimulation.
Likely, he was so insane over his possession, aka 'love', that the thought of losing his possession (victim) trumps all rational. Narcissists go insane once they think they lose their grip.
For the same reason he said he was very intelligent. He's divorced from reality and incredibly unintelligent.
The voicemail is so obviously phony. He’s telling “his” story. Such BS.🙄🙄
The cops dropped the ball so hard here. If they would've looked up Chris' records, they would have seen that he was guilty.
It's funny when these criminal masterminds have to tell us how smart they are. While sitting in a police station. For a murder charge. Where he's the most obvious suspect. But he's incredibly smart.
Another "stable genius", obviously.
Not even incredibly smart but extremely smart! You underestimate his dazzling unheard level of genius. 😂
@@snooganslestat2030
My mistake.
@@bryanrussell6679 he's stupidly smart lol
@@snooganslestat2030😂😂😂
That brother is a real one… irregardless to whatever happened he genuinely seems like a kind hearted guy. He seems like he is nice to anyone.
you did not just write irregardless lmao it's regardless
@@blahboy2600 Irregardless and regardless are both words.
@@danielh.5116 Nope. Irregardless is a portmanteau of regardless and irrespective. Use either of those words instead.
You can make the argument that since people use it that "its a word" but that does not change its origin as a portmanteau of those other words. It is only around due to the cumulative mistakes of other people.
Either way - if you use it people will think you are a charlatan. Just say irrespective or regardless.
@@commiecomrade2644 LOL.. Well seeing as it has been a word recognized since 1912, I think I'll keep using it. There are much more egregious words or phrases that should be removed from our vocabularies than this one.
Thanks for your opinion though.
@@danielh.5116 He was pointing out that you did not use it correctly.
The two brothers are so much alike…the way they look, their mannerisms, that friggin laugh…. They sound like Bevis and Butthead having a conversation.
Yes! 😂
Remind me of Tom green
"Wayne's World. "
😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
When you have to actually tell someone
"I'm extremely smart,"
You should know that you're not....
that's why you hear Trump tells this all the time...
Reaching that conclusion would require you being smart.
@frozenrose84 oh like Biden saying his son is smart? Talking about Hunter
@frozenrose84 leave T. alone & stick w fjb! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@frozenrose84This isn’t a political post for Gods sake STFU already!!!!
I would not be forgiving if my sibling tried to set me up for murder.. they would rot in jail.
She's so obsessed with me, but she dates and sleeps with my brother, but trust me bro, she's totally obsessed with me. Like dude come on now 😐
Yeah, that and “we’re in love”….But “she’s obsessed with me” and “ we’re poison for each other”…but “I asked her to run away with me”….even though “she’s obsessed with me”….😂
Imagine sleeping with someone who has been with your brother 🤮
@@derp8575 100% just Degenerate
I know right! That part was effing crazy. I was watching this alone and verbally said aloud, YEAH RIGHT DUDE!
What a bastard and nut job.
@@derp8575 Indirect incest right there.
It was nice to see the channel give condolences to the family in the beginning. That was really kind and respectful.
Yes I was thinking the same thing. ❤
It's my favorite thing about this channel.
This channel always does that
Fake respect in my opinion, they are making money by telling the story of this women's murder.
@@stopcrueltyagainstanimals2578 you're here watching it though. If you're so outraged you wouldn't
One of the best true crime channels. So pleased to see them nearing the million subscribers 👏👏👏👏
He was losing her and he knew it! Narcissists see you as a POSSESSION not a PERSON; so, he was not going to let her go. Leaving a narcissist can be extremely DANGEROUS! Please be careful ladies and gentlemen.
What a nice man to drop off your ‘ love of my life’ off at their new loves house who happens to be your brother. There was a man in my town who framed his brother for the murder of their parents. One brother had always been in trouble and was the black sheep of the family,the other brother was the good son. When the dust settled it was the ‘good’ brother who had killed his parents for their estate ,he had framed his brother because he resented all the times his parents had bailed out his brother.
Wow!
If you aren’t related or directly affected by the trauma of the crime, can you please share some names or other details about the case? I’m just genuinely curious and am sure others are as well.
Attempting to frame someone for a crime should be a felony.
Anybody else find the officer's instructions to be terrible? "Drop to your knees. Keep walking." Which one bro 😭
I've watched several videos of arrests where the cop gives contradictory instructions to the suspect. I don't know if it's an adrenaline rush causing it or what, but it is awfully strange behavior.
I noticed that too. Probably adrenaline.
@@jacklow9611there was a man killed bc the cops gave contradicting instructions, also the man was drunk, but you could see in the video he was honestly trying to comply and follow directions. It was investigated, and I believe the cop ended up getting off.
@@CharlotteChambers91Daniel Shaver is probably the man you’re thinking of. The cop was acquitted, fired, then rehired so he could claim PTSD from the incident and retire, settled for $31k/yr tax free for life.
The victim’s wife was awarded an $8M settlement.
Mesa, AZ.
I swear! He confused me too! 😂😂
My POS brother stole $100,000 from me when my dad died. We didn’t have any problems up until that point and we were both in our mid 40’s. You never know what people are capable of.
I understand. I am the middle child. They both turned on me instantly. The younger one robbed our father s estate. Disgusting people.
Money makes people do stupid, terrible stuff.
I've seen several times how after a death in the family , it brings out the worst in people
Money tears people apart. I'm glad I'm poor lol tbh.
My mom gave my other siblings their house but they wanted me to put mine in her estate to split with everyone!? She had to put it in her will that I get it! I know what my siblings are capable of and my eyes are wide open. And we're in our 50s and 60s!! Nope!
“She’s a stalker, she’s obsessed with me” ate at my soul in the worst way possible
I don’t know why but something about you switching to that second camera angle in the interview room that shows only the two cops staring dead faced at him while he rambles just sends me 😂❤ good work, editor.
I hate how murderers instantly ‘find god’ you didn’t think about god when you murdered someone. There’s no saving that.
Religion is evil
Sadly all sins weigh the same. To god theres no difference between lying and murder.
First of all, to both of you, it's God.
Second, OC, you're provoked by people finding God in prison after committing murder.
There's no saving that, you say.
If you by that mean that there's no way for a murderer to find God and be forgiven or saved by God, you're wrong.
If you find God and ask him for forgiveness, he'll forgive you no matter what you've done.
Isn't that the whole concept of the Bible.
Forgiveness?
Jesus died on the cross from all of our sins.
You need to read your bible more.
@@justinfletcher267no, not into fiction
For anyone confused, there are three brothers total! Kelly is the one who was framed, Kenny is the one who video calls him! I would hope Kelly never speaks a word to him until he has passed over from rotting in prison.
Oh my god that phone call is cringe. It just feels sick that it is coming out of the mouth of her murderer..
Why did they KEEP LETTING HIM GET AWAY with abusing her?
Exactly. Family members appeared to know, friends undoubtedly knew, yet he was permitted to continue to abuse and terrorize her.
Because she kept allowing it .
@@nwmgnoe316 - Why would that be a reason to keep letting him get away with abusing her?
seeing him chat on the phone with kenny and his dad made me realize just how vulnerable id be against an abuser like chris. it's terrifying.
So the other brother and father were fine that Chris tried to frame Kelly?
Evidently.
Probably not. Families sometimes just support one of their one without condoning what he did. They're probably saying it's not him, it's the drugs. Or they could be thinking if Kelly hadn't slept with her she wouldn't be dead, or blaming her for bringing this on herself by two-timing brothers. People are weird like that
Complete conjecture but I get the feeling that the family made a lot of allowances for Chris that they shouldn’t have. And he manipulated the hell out of that. And they probably felt obligated
@@CarlottaEn Stop making excuses. It's called enabling.
@@wrendavey Agreed.
Imagine all the truths we don't know before security cameras
Many crimes were committed for sure.
Crazy to think about
It's funny because people Always refer to those as the good ol days.
Nah, those were the naive clueless ol days.
Why WHY do the women CONTINUE to provide lodgings and help to men who abuse them??!?!?! RUN away, RUN FAST, Don't give them money!!! Don't help them If he's abused you 100 TIMES get out of there!!! LEAVE!!! LOCK your doors and don't open it for them. Change the locks! Don't answer their calls! Do whatever it takes!!!
The brothers phone call😢😢 it's sad to think the young Sons will never be able to talk to their mama
It's ok, they wont be having 'underlying issues'. *sarcasm*
Psychopath and Narc, she stood no chance. Unfortunately, horrible people like him exist
Lol “I’m extremely smart” 😂 🤣 yea, he’s a real genius
His brother is a better man than me. I feel like if my brother tried to frame one of my other brothers for murder, that's about the time we stopped being brothers.
Edit: commenter pointed out that it was a different brother. I edited my comment to fix the fact I missed.
My thoughts exactly
That wasn't the older brother he tried to frame, it was his younger brother. 23.01
Confusingly his older brother is Kelly, the younger one who phones is Kenny.
@@mpmb8885 good call. I missed the slight name difference. Cheers.
@@knowEyeDeer yeah I had to go back a couple of times because I just couldn't believe it, never know why parents name their kids so similarly.
@mpmb8885 We had a family in our town, and the father's name was Frank. All the boys were named Frank as well. They went by their middle names.
How the hell did he think the emails were going to cover his ass after he just went to a church and reported her dead and stuffed in a car. You literally knew she was dead then did suspicious ass shit. 😅😂
Okay-glad I wasn’t the only one to go “huh?” after he feigned surprise when the police told him of the murder.
💊➕💉🟰🚫🧠⚠️
Like I said DUMB AS A STUMP!
I mean what can you expect from someone who spends the entire interrogation giving motives for his crimes?
Suspicious "ass shit" what disgusting language. Vile words equal a vile mind.
I had a boyfriend that spent a few months n jail once call me up saying he was about to escape. They were painting inside n left a door leading right out into freedom propped open to air out the day room. He wanted me to go pick him up. I refused n told him if he did run he would be running till they caught him again. He stuck it out and I ended up fixing his life and repairing his family relationships until I realized that he was only dragging me down and using me to take care of him. Took me about 20 yrs to learn to stop completely taking care of men.
This guy hasn’t seen the inside of a library 📚 or a book in his life!
That was true once but there's not room to walk in my local library for all of the non-readers who go there for the computers.
@@abbatrouble it’s sad the amount of people that don’t have wifi for sure!
If you weren’t even expecting your family to reach out to you ever again, you’re definitely guilty. If you’re in the county jail and you’re wrongly accused of something awful, you’d definitely be checking for your family for support. Or so they’d at least know what’s going on with you. The fact that he didn’t even check the visitation log, he knows he’s guilty.
15:58 "I've chosen to be a good person, I'm extremely smart"he thinks he's the smartest one in the room. I think he's a narcissist.
I'm no psychiatrist but I've heard that word used and it probably fits here.
Interesting to hear him speak, he also puts himself as a victim. That he would lie to his parents and say he was injured on his bike instead of saying his brother abused him.
He's an interesting soul.
He gets by manipulating others and he thinks he's more intelligent than most and he probably has some smarts, but he's no match against evidence.
I laughed out loud when this man said he is an “intelligent person”.
I live in Arvada and feel absolutely horrible for this woman and her children. 😢
Every Time he spoke about his younger brother he described himself.
Yup, every accusation was a confession.
That's what you call "psychological projection"
*older brother. Kelly and Kenny are two different brothers
The investigators know that tactic. They see it a lot. It can be very helpful to tell them about the suspect sitting across the room.
Confession through projection.
WHY did she continue to see him? You had a protective order. Stay away from him!
“But I looovvve him!!!”
A LOT of people who have never been in this situation ask the same question. It's not always easy for the victim to get out of the situation. Often times there are deep emotional issues that cause someone to stay or keep going back.
How are the cameras in the police department worse than a home security system?
One is paid by taxpayers, the other paid by homeowner. Homeowners dont have to justify the expense.
@@SharronDeniceyes but doesn't this expense justify itself?
@@TekkLuthoroh I agree but still they have to justify all expenses. Why buy system A when system B will work for the budget?
Some departments have small budgets, or mismanage funds, and are running outdated cameras because they don’t have the means to replace them. My local PD barely has enough money to get their vehicles repaired. A town of only 900 people. Our taxes are barely enough to cover the three part time officers that the department employs.
If only justice system takes domestic violence cases seriously, many wonderful lives would have been saved
That is impossible... Sadly. Half the country doesn't believe that's actually a real thing. They believe the woman should submit to the man in a relationship at all times. Even if there is abuse. Hell, half the country is trying to get rid of divorce making it impossible for abused victims to run from their abusers.
Not much the justice system can do when the victim chooses to be in contact, like this lady did.
No, they don't. Most of the time, people have no real desire to help or even listen. My sons and I went through hell, and I still have PTSD with certain smells, flashbacks, or even thinking of the good times will mess with my psyche. Nobody truly gets it unless they've been there themselves. When the police really don't care, trust me when I say no one honestly will help you.
Depressing
@@Dominicanadaa are you serious? Just Google who wants to get rid of divorce... Do you live under a rock? Doesn't matter about this case specifically... What matters is the people have the right to leave abusive relationships legally.
Chris: "Im smart"
Ummm....no you are NOT 😂😂
This is the kind of guy who says “lie-berry”.
He likes to lie, and probably berries too.
😂😂
And 'murica!
Yup!
Your face is red like a straw - brebry
This guy wins the award for being the "You know what I mean/sayin" champion!!!
What are you the department of nahmsayins? Are you counting his nahmsayinses?
@@heidi6715I just made the comment that someone should count his knowemsayins 🤣
@@heidi6715 I am the official nahmsayings supervisor!!! This guy is the civilian Champion!!! Insane Clown Posse are the Global Champions!!!
Why ya gotta be countin a mans "nah Im sayin"s?
"Like, ye know what a mean "
Wish I had £1 for every time I've heard that phrase ..
I'd be a multi-millionaire 😂😂😂
I almost choked when he declared to the police that despite his record he was an honest person. What a despicable human being.
People don’t realize how hard it is to leave a mentally abusive relationship. I was in one and didn’t realize it until after 12 yrs. Chris sounded very heartwarming to Kenny over the phone but was willing to destroy his life. I think he put that front with Veronica too. RIP Veronica.
Your an adult. Unfortunately its your responsibility for yourself and your kids to leave abusers. For kids theres no excuse, adults need to do better becayse they KNOW better
The brother on the phone was his youngest brother Kenny, not the brother he tried to frame who is Kelly!
@@cookie5535 who said anything about kids? Victim blaming sounds like something an abuser would say.
Saying "Im a very smart person, words don't stumble out of my mouth" while literally stumbling over every single syllable is WILD. lol😅😂
I noticed the same thing! Lol..😂😂
That's literally what I wanted to comment 😂
It’s probably easy to convince yourself you’re smart when you’re that dumb
Comedy gold! 😂😂
"I don't have a place where I keep my bullshit piles. Also, I'm not saying I'm PSYCHIC, but...."
WOW! The extent to which this creator went to produce this video is amazing.
Thank you!! The emotions I experienced throughout your presentation was eye opening!
Seeing Chris enjoying his time in prison with his family members on the phone, Makes me sick!
A lot of people thrive in prison that gives them structure and they become happy. I’ve seen it many times.
Just like summer camp! 😊
@@HOSWELL444I have too. We always said at least we won’t find him dead on the streets. To even say that out load seems so bizarre to me now.
At this time he is in jail. Prison is not as easy depending on where they put you
There was too much of that in this video. I had to fast forward through it. I do NOT want to see him having a good time with his brother. Once I realised Kenny was genuine, good for him, but I had no interest in seeing Chris happy in any way at all.
How did those detectives not laugh during his verbal vomit? ‘Smart’ and ‘good person’? 😂
They didn’t because they didn’t know he was the killer yet…
@@TestingTesting-tl7pzthey definitely did know he was the killer
The conversation between the brothers was so sweet you would think people were having barbecue & drinks
He could have just taken the time to have a relationship with his family from the start instead of turning to crime.
Man he did his brother dirty !
Nasty!!
My uncle tried to get back at my dad by having one of my dad's exes claim he graped her. My dad went to court and ended up with a protection order and couldn't be within 500 feet of her. My dad hated my uncle for about 5 years. This happened like 7 years before I was born. So yeah, it happens all the time.
he literally killed a woman and thats what you’re worried about?
Deep. If a sibling tried to frame me, I would've have anything else to say to them!
They aren't talking to each other! That's a different brother
Too many people enabled this fool. Many warning signs before it got to homicide. i think all people involved in ignoring the previous warnings should be charged, but that's just me.
WHAT A HORRIBLE LIAR 🤨🤨