Teen Killer Does the Unthinkable When Brother Finds His Secret

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  • On the night of December 6, 2014, a tragic incident occurred at the Spitler residence while Brian and Elaine were away. Their son, Pat, lost his life under unforeseen circumstances, leaving the family and community in shock. The details of what transpired that evening would soon reveal a heart-wrenching truth.
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  • @bonniewyke1750
    @bonniewyke1750 5 місяців тому +1879

    Why would she buy her minor, angry, drug dealer son a gun? She needs to be held accountable for her part in her older son’s death.

    • @clarissa8477
      @clarissa8477 5 місяців тому

      Bc she’s a shit mother, and has zero respect for her husband.

    • @lemoniefish
      @lemoniefish 5 місяців тому +53

      Guns are an issue but not as much of an issue as parents like this who do not parent.
      We had a gun in our house as children but from the get-go we were instructed and monitored by our dad on not handling it, it's not a toy and the responsibility of gun ownership. When we were old enough, we were taught how to safely fire a gun if the occasion ever came up that it was needed to protect a life. Had we ever exhibited this angry, irresponsible behavior, we would never had access to the gun.

    • @Supersonic6427
      @Supersonic6427 5 місяців тому +41

      @@lemoniefish Damn, copy pasting on various comments?

    • @carolynhoechst3201
      @carolynhoechst3201 5 місяців тому +38

      That just happened in Wisconsin, I think! A school shooter’s parents that bought him a gun. First case in the country. BOTH were convicted and sentenced to prison (forgot how long). Their child had been displaying signs of mental illness that they ignored, even after the boy asked them for help!

    • @dobermommartha
      @dobermommartha 5 місяців тому +11

      I had my son in 1980 and didn’t even allow toy guns in the house until he was 12. I would never have thought to purchase a gun for myself, much less him. Parents need to communicate with each other IMHO.

  • @Parousia001
    @Parousia001 5 місяців тому +452

    “He dealt with a lot of shady and dangerous characters”??
    He forgot to mention that _he_ was one of the “shady and dangerous characters!”

    • @5calambres
      @5calambres 4 місяці тому +3

      Jup, he's the one knocking.

    • @JimiJames-xq3kc
      @JimiJames-xq3kc Місяць тому +3

      Like when families say, he got in with the wrong crowd. He is the wrong crowd WTF.

  • @mariannepfly1906
    @mariannepfly1906 5 місяців тому +994

    Don’t want to lose the 2nd son, Riley gets away and away and away with everything. Poor Pat, in death his parents aren’t protecting him either. I’ll never understand that.

    • @Zero-1
      @Zero-1 5 місяців тому +46

      Idk the dad seems like he’s losing his mind cuz he knows he lost both his sons cuz of his wife or probably ex wife. Kinda fell bad for the guy.

    • @josephgomalo41
      @josephgomalo41 5 місяців тому +4

      I blame Patrick himself. I was ready to leave my parents' home when I was 14 if it weren't for a high school (boarding). I could see that it wasn't a perfect place for me anymore. Some spoilt brats would put up with bullshit for the rest of their lives because they are scared of facing life! And not wanting to let go of easy money. I am sure Pat had grandparents, an uncle or even a family friend to live with away from the intoxicating family. Everybody can see when the family they were born in isn't the same.. especially when they begin to support a troublesome member! I would have left.

    • @TameciaArchibald
      @TameciaArchibald 5 місяців тому +53

      @@josephgomalo41Pretty shitty to blame the guy who lost his life here. Whether or not you left, doesn’t mean the next person will move the same way you did.

    • @looney1023
      @looney1023 5 місяців тому +6

      Well, he's gone and Riley is still alive. They'll never get their other son back, but they don't want to lose their only other son too. It makes sense to me.

    • @TiredNout
      @TiredNout 5 місяців тому +16

      Their selfish desire to have their son with them after he murdered their other son is INFURIATING.

  • @jeffreyjohnson7400
    @jeffreyjohnson7400 5 місяців тому +396

    This kid has a problem. Society is going to have to deal with him again in the future.

    • @Onlyasking-b3s
      @Onlyasking-b3s 3 місяці тому +2

      Agreed

    • @MCBRUCE76
      @MCBRUCE76 2 місяці тому +2

      His future is already decided, he is a convict, he is not going anywhere, he will either go to prison or die in the hands of the dealers. Cops are going to be on his tail for the rest of his life.

    • @feliciaowens4094
      @feliciaowens4094 2 місяці тому +1

      Agreed Just wish his parents would of been ​@MCBRUCE76

    • @MCBRUCE76
      @MCBRUCE76 2 місяці тому

      @@feliciaowens4094 Yes dear, criminals don't just pop out of nowhere. They are the influence of what their elders are. Thinking of killing somebody's life alone, takes away your soul. Where is the question of killing someone practically

    • @ryantantalo4233
      @ryantantalo4233 2 місяці тому

      No doubt this dude gets out of jail and just goes back to what he was doing before

  • @TheUberninjaChannel
    @TheUberninjaChannel 5 місяців тому +158

    The mother’s negligence cannot be ignored here. “Well I need to protect myself mom if I’m going to do my shady drug dealing” how about don’t be a drug dealer?

    • @andiward7068
      @andiward7068 4 дні тому +2

      Dad wasn't any better. He was absent af and didn't know anything about what was happening in his own family and home.

  • @alisonp3398
    @alisonp3398 5 місяців тому +1002

    Elaine was the worst kind of enabling mom. You have a 16 year who dropped out of school and is selling drugs and you buy him a gun?! Nobody stood up for Patrick, especially the crap his father was spewing. Drug dealers and drunk drivers get more prison time than this punk who murdered someone. Anyone that fell for him saying it was an accident must not have an older sibling. RIP Patrick, sorry your family failed you. You had great potential in changing the future

    • @malloryfraney1683
      @malloryfraney1683 5 місяців тому +86

      Exactly! At first I felt bad for the father and then I got to the end and was like wtf is he even on about? Stating all prison will do is to punish him (DURRRR) and revenge. If it were up to these two dingbat parents Riley would be out, selling weed and given guns again . They act like Riley was getting the death penalty and yet they can go visit him in prison . While poor Patrick will never see another sunrise, never get married or have children. Honestly these crap parents are the very reason why Patrick is dead. They've never held Riley accountable for anything and that's why he is the way that he is. Absolutely insufferable people.

    • @alexlogan202
      @alexlogan202 5 місяців тому +14

      Drunk drivers get off easy

    • @AllIDoIsNguyenTX
      @AllIDoIsNguyenTX 5 місяців тому +33

      She should have been prosecuted, too.

    • @Ciesiam
      @Ciesiam 5 місяців тому +25

      Oh, I know! What about charging the mother for buying her son a handgun?

    • @Mr.Sp0cK
      @Mr.Sp0cK 5 місяців тому +18

      He is cold as ice. I think he is a Psychopath and His acting skills did not improved, after he did time in prison. Im hypersensitive and i can sense no feelings in this Guy!

  • @ydlmxx
    @ydlmxx 5 місяців тому +410

    I believe the mother should also be held accountable for the event that had taken place🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @PhaggyJames
      @PhaggyJames 5 місяців тому +2

      That isn't how shit works. I believe you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

    • @zoeymichael3966
      @zoeymichael3966 5 місяців тому +16

      ​@@PhaggyJames Interesting statement.
      Have you ever heard about Jennifer Crumbley?
      Would you mind explaining the difference to me, please? 🙏

    • @alatinax
      @alatinax 5 місяців тому +7

      @@PhaggyJamesyou sound very angry with life, are you okays?

    • @willgetbettereventually124
      @willgetbettereventually124 5 місяців тому

      @@PhaggyJamesWhat!? Vote? A man is dead and you’re talking about voting?

    • @ydlmxx
      @ydlmxx 5 місяців тому +9

      @@PhaggyJames and why are you triggered with my comment? Are you doing the same with your family members?😏

  • @TeeSantanax
    @TeeSantanax 5 місяців тому +2064

    As a mom how are you letting your 16 year old child hold so much power over you, crazy

    • @gabehayes9026
      @gabehayes9026 5 місяців тому +32

      Kid was probably abused before all this. Probably had a shitty up bringing. And only too add fuel too the fire. Mom gave her mentally ill a firearm.

    • @cdes1776
      @cdes1776 5 місяців тому +170

      @@gabehayes9026 That was never stated. "....Patrick and Riley had a relatively normal childhoods..." 1:23
      If no further information was ever shared, even at the court level, it's not your business to make it up.

    • @Basement811
      @Basement811 5 місяців тому

      Blck kids do it

    • @derekfutrell4908
      @derekfutrell4908 5 місяців тому +57

      My wife’s cousin is A LOT like this. His mother enables him like crazy

    • @cdes1776
      @cdes1776 5 місяців тому +53

      @@derekfutrell4908 And they'll continue as long as she does. An enabler can harm her child's future. Co-dependent for life.

  • @johnathansaegal3156
    @johnathansaegal3156 5 місяців тому +118

    As a once-firearms instructor (I'm now disabled and can no longer hold classes). I have seen all types of people make mistakes when handling semi-automatics. I've seen people rack the slide, remove the mag, then reinsert the mag and then put it into their range bag. When I would inquire, they told me, "Oh, there's no round in the chamber, I just ejected the round"... I would show them they did the process backward. This was with people who had used that SAME pistol dozens of times properly in my presence on the range. Sometimes people either get complacent and don't double check to make sure it's unloaded or they had "a brain fart" and simply did the unloading process backward. I've seen all sorts of mistakes - if it could be made, I've seen it done over the course of the ten years I instructed others on firearms use.
    Of course, all the firearm safety rules would be repeated: Always treat the gun as if it's loaded. Never point a gun at anything or anyone you do not want to destroy. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. Keep the barrel pointed downrange at all times, etc.
    Following the rules means even if you forgot to unload the gun, not pointing it at someone, not having your finger on the trigger... those rules would keep un accidents from happening. The main point I'm getting at is I have seen people THINK they have unloaded a semi-auto pistol when in fact they reloaded the pistol just as this kid said. I'm not saying that's what happened, but I have witnessed it in person. A slight distraction and a "brain fart" and the gun is "unloaded" backwards, actually loading the gun. I've never had anyone shoot another person before, but all I am referring is the mishandling of the loading process has happened unintentionally.
    Also, the fact that kid kept saying "decocking" instead of "racking" makes me believe he truly did not know how to fully operate that pistol. Decocking is a process some pistols feature, but it has nothing to do with the slide being racked.
    Ultimately, the kid should not have had the gun. His MOM should not have bought him the gun. 9th grade dropout... and Mom buys him, a known drug dealer a handgun? Bad call, Mom.

    • @annoyedaussie3942
      @annoyedaussie3942 5 місяців тому +7

      I think that's exactly what Riley did. The strong circumstantial evidence that he didn't want to kill his brother was the fact he only shot once, in watching a lot of these crime videos they never shoot once because they are in a rage unless it's completely premeditated and to the head assassination style. I don't believe Riley however because he lied about how he got the guns and that he wasn't a drug dealer.

    • @MelDamgaard
      @MelDamgaard 4 місяці тому +5

      I admire your knowledge and expertise!! I was in the Canadian Armed Forces for years until I became injured and we were drilled with gun safety!! I also was taught with hand guns from the military on a short course and from another agency that I had access to!! I am super angry with this mother!! Knowing her husband's feelings, stance on guns, and rules, she completely ignored and betrayed him for her sons gratification!! Knowing her son's situation, she should have taken a more common sense approach telling son that the guns and drugs were either gone that night or she was going to report him to his father and police!! Had she done this, her other son would still be alive today!!
      As for the father, one minute he is furious with hearing about the guns and drugs, but when his horrible son murders his amazing son, suddenly he defends his horrible son, forgetting why they were in court in the first place....to get justice for his amazing murdered son!! Justice was not served and the mother should have been convicted for aiding and abetting an individual for criminal purposes!!😮

    • @allanshpeley4284
      @allanshpeley4284 2 місяці тому +5

      Finally someone talking some common sense.

    • @t.saldana8951
      @t.saldana8951 2 місяці тому +3

      I firmly believe Riley knew in that instant he messed up. I also believe there was a strong bias to prosecute him because he was a problem child.

    • @countfosco8535
      @countfosco8535 13 днів тому +1

      Way too many firearms in that country. A 16 year old felon? I mean wow.

  • @helpcomputaaaa882
    @helpcomputaaaa882 5 місяців тому +120

    Parents fail at life then blame the courts and judge. 🤦

  • @kass794
    @kass794 5 місяців тому +204

    Mother finds drugs, then buys him a gun 😳🥴🙄🤦‍♀️🤡

  • @lornaharris7719
    @lornaharris7719 5 місяців тому +736

    That boy is lying. His brother didn't like him having a gun in the house so it's highly unlikely he would be "playing" with it. He went in there to kill him and that is what he did

    • @NickyBlue99
      @NickyBlue99 5 місяців тому +39

      💯

    • @user-ch6um1vn8x
      @user-ch6um1vn8x 5 місяців тому +15

      Okay Sherlock.

    • @nothereforit.605
      @nothereforit.605 5 місяців тому +31

      @@user-ch6um1vn8xit’s obvious, a pos will do pos things

    • @lisavanallen6635
      @lisavanallen6635 5 місяців тому +28

      I wonder if Pats prints were even on the gun seeing as that was what Riley was claiming that they “both” played with it.

    • @curioustruthteller8510
      @curioustruthteller8510 5 місяців тому +17

      I think they were talking about how since Riley didn't get the gun out of the house that when their parents got home he was now going to tell on Riley. Riley then threatens him and Pat doesn't seem scared because who TRULY believes their brother would shoot them?! And then he did.

  • @sleepn6338
    @sleepn6338 5 місяців тому +709

    Why would you get a gun for your son who was known to use drugs?!

    • @staffryte951
      @staffryte951 5 місяців тому +12

      Maybe she is just special...

    • @BeRightBack131
      @BeRightBack131 5 місяців тому +29

      Exactly! I had a teenage son (all grown up now) who used to do things I disagreed with, ie caught him smoking a cigarette and once smoking pot with his friends. I went full boss mom on him. Flushed his pot cigarette, took his tobacco cigarettes, and kept him from ever hanging out with those crappy kids he called "friends." Oh, and one time he had a small pocket knife. Nope. Took that, too. No way in heaven or hell would I have ever let him have a gun! If I had found my teen with a gun, I would have confiscated it, made it a HUGE family drama/deal, called police, etc. That was a massive failure on his parent's part! Poor Pat. RIP Pat.

    • @MG-uz5mr
      @MG-uz5mr 5 місяців тому +14

      It sounds like he manipulated her with "I need it for safety coz gangs and shit". Clearly she'd do anything for her kids... but also as clear is that her approach to that was all wrong lol

    • @XYZ-kb3mm
      @XYZ-kb3mm 5 місяців тому +27

      @@MG-uz5mr but she didn’t tell her husband either. she was hiding it so on some level she knew it was wrong… he was ONLY 16. i have no idea how she stayed out of jail in this case.

    • @Bobzt2
      @Bobzt2 5 місяців тому +29

      More like… Why would you buy a gun for a kid in the first place? My dad wouldn’t even buy me a cell phone as a teen and said if I wanted one, get a job and buy one 😂 A good parent

  • @quinn-f4q
    @quinn-f4q 5 місяців тому +40

    The parents definitely have a favorite son. They literally let him get away with murder.

  • @annmowatt7547
    @annmowatt7547 5 місяців тому +54

    These parents are a disgrace. Riley is a monster, spawned by clueless parents. Poor Pat. His short life must have been hell.

    • @Scriptorsilentum
      @Scriptorsilentum 3 місяці тому +1

      my bet is pat likely lived at home always nervous, uneasy.

  • @lamimijae
    @lamimijae 5 місяців тому +1154

    “I do not wanna lose my other son” and thats exactly why you have a son dead.

  • @ariannawalker1103
    @ariannawalker1103 5 місяців тому +1195

    "incarcerating him for a long time won't serve any purpose but punishment" OBVIOUSLY?? spoken from a family that had no consequences for their son EVER.

    • @FEED_ME_A_STRAY_CAT
      @FEED_ME_A_STRAY_CAT 5 місяців тому

      His dad must be Egyptian, because he sure is in 'DA NILE!' lol

    • @darthphilfy
      @darthphilfy 5 місяців тому +88

      And that's exactly why they find themselves in this position.

    • @sandyking6631
      @sandyking6631 5 місяців тому +4

      Ccż

    • @DrunkDoglol
      @DrunkDoglol 5 місяців тому

      The American justice system is about serving punishment for profits, because you're just a number to them. It's why wealthy and/or influential people can get away with so much. In actual 1st world countries, it's about rehabilitation more than anything.
      If anything, American prisons make people more violent because they need to be to survive. So once they do get out, they're most likely to reoffend and get back into the system.

    • @nc7807
      @nc7807 5 місяців тому +41

      Prisons should not exist for punishment, they should exist for reform.
      You may argue that some cannot be reformed. That would be quite the minority. Nobody has a good solution for those who cannot be reformed. Capital punishment is not cool. Look at the stats, it's horrific how many innocent people are unalived by the government because a jury was wrong.

  • @faykouri1162
    @faykouri1162 5 місяців тому +902

    Shouldn’t that woman be in jail? She’s not a mum in my books, just awful where is the justice for Pat?

    • @theresachristie7150
      @theresachristie7150 5 місяців тому +19

      Where's DAD?

    • @lunatic5162
      @lunatic5162 5 місяців тому +1

      If they gave that boy so much how do you think?

    • @cathycastleton
      @cathycastleton 5 місяців тому +2

      Agree

    • @actiondork
      @actiondork 5 місяців тому +38

      Yeah, she gave a weapon to a juvenile. It is illegal for him to have the weapon. Even if he didn't use it, if he just was possessing it, she STILL should have been arrested.

    • @TheThreatenedSwan
      @TheThreatenedSwan 5 місяців тому +9

      Half the the moms in the ghetto should be arrested in that case, but I'm not holding my breath

  • @Justicewarrior908
    @Justicewarrior908 5 місяців тому +101

    Mom should be charged as accessory to a murder

  • @jamesg1974a
    @jamesg1974a 4 місяці тому +27

    Those parents are why that kid turned out the way he did. Even as the kid murdered their well-behaved child, they are still defending the bad child.

  • @sharonwalker
    @sharonwalker 5 місяців тому +786

    The parents betrayed their dead son, SHAMEFUL!!!!

    • @stevehawkins4301
      @stevehawkins4301 5 місяців тому +18

      Yeah, but he's gone. And they are the most affected besides the victim. If the dad says 5 years, that's okay. Because for all we know, it was an honest mistake. The gun and weed literally have NOTHING to do with the murder. Siblings fight. And young people play with guns.

    • @mommyof3_908
      @mommyof3_908 5 місяців тому +58

      ​@@stevehawkins4301the Mom should've never bought him a damn gun to begin with.

    • @davidmetzler6670
      @davidmetzler6670 5 місяців тому +43

      @@stevehawkins4301 The gun has nothing to do with the murder, what?? The gun (and the easy access to it) is specfically the reason this happened, dum dum.

    • @a.azazagoth5413
      @a.azazagoth5413 5 місяців тому +22

      The father didn’t know. His wife is the cause of this entire mess.

    • @loriegosnell9355
      @loriegosnell9355 5 місяців тому +1

      Yep

  • @jag03ljg
    @jag03ljg 5 місяців тому +216

    How can a Mom let her 16 year old son be a drug dealer and buy him a gun, then act shocked when he uses it to kill the son that isn't a criminal.

    • @aftertheheadlines
      @aftertheheadlines 5 місяців тому +11

      You think he had something nefarious over her? She knew her husband didn’t want guns in the house and did it anyway. For a 16 yr old high school dropout.

    • @jag03ljg
      @jag03ljg 5 місяців тому +5

      @@aftertheheadlines some Moms don't want to have their children unhappy, and are nonconfrontational, huge price to pay when something like this happens.

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому +9

      @@aftertheheadlinesnah I personally think she just loved her little boy so much that he got whatever he wanted. But you could argue that’s hardly love. It’s more like she didn’t want him upset so she did anything he asked to pacify him instead of being a good mother.

    • @ql6746
      @ql6746 5 місяців тому

      Typical yt female never held accountable

  • @zoeymichael3966
    @zoeymichael3966 5 місяців тому +75

    So... at the end, they let a murderer and a drug dealer back to the streets.
    Wow, I am speechless. 😳

  • @laurenwest3090
    @laurenwest3090 5 місяців тому +40

    That mother should never have had kids! Failed both of them miserably. RIP Pat!

  • @kurtisstutzman7056
    @kurtisstutzman7056 5 місяців тому +22

    How could any parent allow this from a 16 year old...?! She bought a 16 year old a pistol...?! A second one...??!! WTF...?!?

  • @K1LLmatic
    @K1LLmatic 5 місяців тому +488

    4 years is ridiculous who is standing up for Patrick?????

    • @strummercash5601
      @strummercash5601 5 місяців тому +80

      Not his father, apparently.

    • @BuccaneerBruce
      @BuccaneerBruce 5 місяців тому +49

      His dad certainly isn't. His dad is only standing up for Riley. He couldn't care less about his dead son, he only cares about the one that is alive.

    • @yonycka16
      @yonycka16 5 місяців тому +4

      Those that look at this content :sigh:

    • @mazzy1959
      @mazzy1959 5 місяців тому +9

      @@yonycka16 I know for some it can be hard to understand. I often have to turn away.. it just gets too much to bear. I can only speak for myself, but learing to look out for certain behaviours and avoid them is something many of us need 😕 unfortunately x

    • @ItsNeverAManequin
      @ItsNeverAManequin 5 місяців тому +22

      You know, the dad wasn't standing up for Patrick. However, I agree with the ultimate sentence. 2nd degree murder is tricky. Riley was reckless but I don't think there was a disregard for human life. There was a risk of death- there always is with a gun- but I don't think Riley showed extreme indifference. He called the cops, tried to stop the bleeding, was hysterical, punched a glass door with his hand in order for help to enter. Riley showed remorse and seemed honest with the police. I don't think Patrick would have wanted him in prison for that long. Riley was likely high. I think he was a stupid 16 year old who messed up. He's an intelligent person. If he shot his brother intentionally he would have covered it up. That was the first time in his life he was punished. The state has to teach him a lesson because his paren'ts never did.

  • @chaddixon2145
    @chaddixon2145 5 місяців тому +108

    I’m very surprised the mom wasn’t charged with anything!?!? She knowingly bought her drug dealing minor son a gun for protection against the people he sold drugs to!!

    • @maximus9146
      @maximus9146 5 місяців тому +2

      She's white 🤫

    • @ev3tteXO
      @ev3tteXO 2 місяці тому

      @@maximus9146 I’m white and a mother race has nothing to do with this. She’s a lunatic a pushover and she had no control in her household. Plenty of parents have bought their children guns it happens when the parent is irresponsible

    • @bonsaibaby8257
      @bonsaibaby8257 2 місяці тому

      @@maximus9146just like the mom and dad that was recently convicted for their sons school shooting.

  • @tonydew440
    @tonydew440 5 місяців тому +472

    The victim was let down by his Family, in all situations. With the mum buying the gun, family hoping their son wouldn’t get convicted. To then the dad being angry, with the original charge and sentence. He intentionally shot his brother, he knew what he was doing. So as a parent myself, I would not forgive my child for doing that. When he was talking to the officer in the car, you wouldn’t think he had killed his brother. You would think it was a random person, he was only worried about what would happen to him. He will get out early, parents will forgive him and believe it was an accident. While their innocent, good natured son was murdered, by his, scum brother. Who was breaking the law, selling drugs and was a drop out.

    • @gacha.life.with.crystal9359
      @gacha.life.with.crystal9359 5 місяців тому

      E free free u r

    • @pamelalapierre6678
      @pamelalapierre6678 5 місяців тому

      A dropout and LOSER , with a capital L !!!

    • @kendal_whoever
      @kendal_whoever 5 місяців тому +3

      You’re definitely the favourite parent in your household.

    • @TomusangeSteven
      @TomusangeSteven 5 місяців тому +3

      For one moment I thought that was before the muder

    • @Crave88evarC
      @Crave88evarC 5 місяців тому +24

      Exactly. He spoke about it like he had stolen firecrackers or something.
      He was a jealous loser that hated his brother. End of story

  • @yak5267
    @yak5267 5 місяців тому +123

    To the dad: the purpose of his incarceration is that he doesn’t go out and kill someone else.
    This is the worst parenting I’ve seen.

  • @MrPither999
    @MrPither999 5 місяців тому +23

    These people do NOT deserve to be called parents.

  • @emo_penguin420
    @emo_penguin420 5 місяців тому +120

    Wow, poor Pat. What a horrific and totally unnecessary tragedy 😢💔 Rest peacefully, Pat, you will not be forgotten.

    • @aftertheheadlines
      @aftertheheadlines 5 місяців тому +6

      Who is going to remember him, his parents? I will never think of him again unless his case pops up on the UA-cam algorithm. It’s an artificial statement the young man got zero justice, and zero support from his family. Now his family will barely speak of because doing so the parents have to confront their own failures.

    • @covmiss1
      @covmiss1 5 місяців тому +1

      @@aftertheheadlines the sad facts of life :(

  • @Mandrake42
    @Mandrake42 5 місяців тому +83

    "He said my life was going down the drain". And he nailed it. Maybe that's what pissed you off so much, looking out of the soiled toiled bowl that was your life, you realised he was right on the point.

  • @Parousia001
    @Parousia001 5 місяців тому +56

    I understand that the parents don’t want to lose their other son too, but in the process, they seem to have valued Pat’s life very cheaply. 😢

    • @t.saldana8951
      @t.saldana8951 2 місяці тому

      Not in the slightest and it shows contradictory to your statement

  • @marianarvaez4156
    @marianarvaez4156 5 місяців тому +20

    Hold the mother accountable for this crime ALSO 😡

  • @laserglider
    @laserglider 5 місяців тому +14

    Pat is somewhere turning in his grave listening to his “brother” talk about him

    • @laserglider
      @laserglider 5 місяців тому +4

      And then his parents taking the side of the brother that’s alive is sick 🤧

  • @korentaylor8508
    @korentaylor8508 5 місяців тому +24

    poor patrick, his family failed him horribly. he seemed like a great guy, he just seemed like a protective sibling who would want the best for his brother.
    also, how naive do you have to be as a parent to believe the “it’s my friend’s gun/drugs”???

  • @johnnyfreak6806
    @johnnyfreak6806 5 місяців тому +795

    Moms at fault, COMPLETE failure of parenting...

    • @baylabean69
      @baylabean69 5 місяців тому

      Guns don't kill people, people kill people

    • @Derfboy
      @Derfboy 5 місяців тому +9

      Holy crap, you really did sum it up nicely.

    • @Stephanie_Ella
      @Stephanie_Ella 5 місяців тому +4

      Yup!

    • @THEHORSELOVER235
      @THEHORSELOVER235 5 місяців тому +35

      So is the dad if he's that oblivious

    • @verabolton
      @verabolton 5 місяців тому +31

      I'm surprised she wasn't charged with child dangermen / child neglect

  • @alicjap3482
    @alicjap3482 5 місяців тому +146

    If it were today the parents would be charged as well. What was the mother thinking when buying a gun for an already screwed up kid? Well, she obviously wasn't thinking at all. Shame on her.

    • @michaeldynesdynesis3534
      @michaeldynesdynesis3534 5 місяців тому

      Absolutely

    • @aftertheheadlines
      @aftertheheadlines 5 місяців тому +10

      Not just buying a high school drop out the gun, but knowing her husband didn’t want guns in the house. Did Riley have something he was holding over her to get her to comply?

    • @SerenDipity64711
      @SerenDipity64711 5 місяців тому

      we hear these stories, time and time again🙁

    • @abbeyboyle8843
      @abbeyboyle8843 5 місяців тому +5

      I was just thinking that Elaine Spitler needed to share a cell with Jennifer Crumbley.

  • @daddysangeljetta
    @daddysangeljetta 5 місяців тому +10

    Those “parents” are horrifying that poor child was amazing and tried so hard to be a good human yet they only cared about the pos they raised even in his death. Patrick may you rest in peace and know you made many proud and there are folks who stand with you and honor you

    • @JRprice25
      @JRprice25 5 місяців тому

      Not so much… Patrick never gave them issues and was the “favorite”

  • @rashawillis3016
    @rashawillis3016 5 місяців тому +10

    The mother should’ve told the dad. No matter how much he worked, he still should have known what was inside his home.

  • @BellissimaFaith
    @BellissimaFaith 5 місяців тому +102

    Some mothers are the absolute worst for their children.

  • @pamelalapierre6678
    @pamelalapierre6678 5 місяців тому +75

    Enabling is NOT good parenting . Whatever happened to parents being the ones in charge & knowing when its inappropriate to indulge little Johnny ( or whomever ) so that he doesn't get upset with you . Kids getting mad at their parents has been since the beginning of time . They will grow up & understand . But if you indulge them they may NEVER grow up , as in the case above . What choice does a smart parent make ?!!!

    • @kimmiegirl810
      @kimmiegirl810 5 місяців тому +8

      Parents forget that our first responsibility is to prepare our kids to become responsible adults

  • @brittbrat4977
    @brittbrat4977 5 місяців тому +120

    This is totally irrelevant, but the kid sounds like the man, and the cop sounds like the kid.

    • @desi4u1
      @desi4u1 5 місяців тому +11

      Telling the cop the whole story before even arriving to the precinct let’s me know who’s the actual kid.

    • @hannahantoinette2819
      @hannahantoinette2819 5 місяців тому +8

      Dude no it drives me crazy like I swear he’s talking to a grown ass man 😅

    • @mistrgiggls2554
      @mistrgiggls2554 5 місяців тому

      @@desi4u1this is even more irrelevant

    • @slaythembeforeme
      @slaythembeforeme 5 місяців тому +8

      And when the dad started talking I could have sworn it was the mom. Man sounds like a little old lady

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 4 місяці тому +1

      I was completely confused.

  • @feeman3345
    @feeman3345 5 місяців тому +13

    Terrible parents.

  • @Pam-c3p
    @Pam-c3p 5 місяців тому +4

    I really don't like A LOT of the narrators on many crime channels here, but yours is one of the few I appreciate. Thank you.

  • @cathleenmcgee9233
    @cathleenmcgee9233 5 місяців тому +77

    Enabling parents should be jailed for something just like the Crumbly’s.

    • @abebuckingham8198
      @abebuckingham8198 5 місяців тому +7

      The Crumbley case was exceptional. He literally drew a picture of the murder with the gun they bought him and handed it into his teacher the day he committed the shooting. They had a mountain of evidence warning them what would happen.

  • @UglyMugs-3962.
    @UglyMugs-3962. 5 місяців тому +56

    Knowing the kid had pistols wtf was mom thinking? Sounds like a toxic relationship with mom with no boundaries

    • @Authorised-q5s
      @Authorised-q5s 5 місяців тому

      She wanted him to have protection, I do not see a problem with that 🙂

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 4 місяці тому +1

      hmmm different dad and he's her fav

    • @Shannon-vv6rr
      @Shannon-vv6rr 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Authorised-q5sdon't have kids

  • @michaelkaniecki1998
    @michaelkaniecki1998 5 місяців тому +106

    Definitely a parental failure... families - get your shit together!!!

  • @ejgomes8311
    @ejgomes8311 5 місяців тому +14

    What a mother.

  • @BeeKee404
    @BeeKee404 5 місяців тому +17

    As someone who has dealt with and still deals with people who talk down to me and as someone who is also the younger brother, I can relate to Riley's frustrations but the thing is, I can't imagine going as far as to resorting to gun violence or any kind of fatal violence. Pat did not deserve this and I wish the mother would also face some accountability cause buying your easily angered teenage son a gun is ridiculous!

  • @damarisjembere218
    @damarisjembere218 5 місяців тому +38

    They are going to be bailing him out for the rest of their lives!

  • @cliftonrocquemore1218
    @cliftonrocquemore1218 5 місяців тому +195

    MOM IS THE BLAME

    • @adambane1719
      @adambane1719 5 місяців тому +5

      *to

    • @shamikeatley4760
      @shamikeatley4760 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@adambane1719*too

    • @theresachristie7150
      @theresachristie7150 5 місяців тому +4

      Where's DAD?

    • @theresachristie7150
      @theresachristie7150 5 місяців тому +11

      Mom is to blame
      AND SO IS THE DAD!!!

    • @MrYexas
      @MrYexas 5 місяців тому +4

      ​@@theresachristie7150think they said he never noticed the guns because he worked two jobs.

  • @Wildcat221
    @Wildcat221 5 місяців тому +325

    Mom really screwed the pooch here, it’s half her fault.

    • @Donald_Ray
      @Donald_Ray 5 місяців тому +1

      It’s more like 80-90 something % her fault, and not only because she is to blame for buying her increasing wayward, dumbass wannabe drug dealing dropout of a son the very gun, [which he CLEARLY was not mentally capable of handling] that would be used to kill her firstborn child… but she is also to blame for the simple fact that, she allowed that child to behave like he did, under her roof, just so SHE didn’t have to “deal” with a little bit of “emotional stress!” And honestly the boys father didn’t seem much better, they all come of as kooks to me, or maybe it’s just a Michigan thing!?

    • @mariawestman9026
      @mariawestman9026 5 місяців тому +5

      She is 100% guilty of buying the murder weapon !
      Isn’t the buyer responsible for holding the weapon in lock 🔒 and NOT giving it away ?
      What does the law says ???
      Isn’t she guilty of something seen by the law ???

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому

      @@mariawestman9026it depends on the state. More states have started charging adults who give their children guns knowing they have mental health concerns or have criminal ideologies.

    • @slaythembeforeme
      @slaythembeforeme 5 місяців тому

      Sounds like she needs to be charged with beastiality

    • @babiem2290
      @babiem2290 Місяць тому

      @@slaythembeforemeget off the internet dude.

  • @TimothyJones-mm9tb
    @TimothyJones-mm9tb 5 місяців тому +14

    Mom should get prison time.

  • @Webzterr
    @Webzterr 5 місяців тому +13

    " To be precise.. I'm not quite sure" 😂😂😂😂 funniest thing I heard all day

  • @Nicolesid1
    @Nicolesid1 5 місяців тому +48

    Who needs enemies when you have a family like this? The mom knows about the gun, so she gets him more.
    Dad begging for a softer sentence because "he's our murderous baby"

  • @debjohnson2741
    @debjohnson2741 5 місяців тому +77

    The mom needs to be accountable for buying the gun for a 16 YR OLD!! WTF He had a lot of issues and she knew it but still went out and bought the gun! This makes me furious !!The parents are just wacked!

  • @twistedsister6293
    @twistedsister6293 5 місяців тому +68

    Disgusting his sentance was over ruled,both his parents are to blame for this ,all hes going to do when he gets out is pick up where he left off..like i said..disgusted!

    • @Authorised-q5s
      @Authorised-q5s 5 місяців тому

      Not all do it again. They are not all dumb.

    • @highjinx6519
      @highjinx6519 4 місяці тому +4

      Except he’ll prob be worse from all the new contacts and influences he meets in jail.

  • @JoshDiaz87
    @JoshDiaz87 5 місяців тому +14

    Mom should have bought him a Gameboy.

  • @Darlingnik
    @Darlingnik 5 місяців тому +9

    “I’ll always love my brother.” Shakes head no.

  • @BritInvLvr
    @BritInvLvr 5 місяців тому +29

    What god awful parents. Lock them up too.

  • @FullTimePatient37
    @FullTimePatient37 5 місяців тому +27

    The family failed Pat GREATLY what a tragedy this is beyond insane!

  • @DWtechfan
    @DWtechfan 5 місяців тому +15

    How does a 16 year old boy sound like a 50 something mobster from the mafia in Jersey? I legit thought I was watching an episode of The Sopranos.

  • @TheThreatenedSwan
    @TheThreatenedSwan 5 місяців тому +8

    Surprisingly ballsy statement by the prosecutor to the father.

  • @fugoo8912
    @fugoo8912 4 місяці тому +5

    I can’t imagine being unsympathetic and disgusted by parents who just lost their kid and potentially their other son… but here I am.

  • @jzoutlaw7797
    @jzoutlaw7797 5 місяців тому +180

    Truly a modern day story of Cain and Abel.

  • @cynthiakritika5047
    @cynthiakritika5047 5 місяців тому +101

    He’s got those dead eyes. No soul behind them.

  • @tylerskiss
    @tylerskiss 5 місяців тому +13

    Looks like they went with the slightly modified Mark Zuckerborg model complete with dead, black eyes.

  • @dazcenteno5047
    @dazcenteno5047 5 місяців тому +9

    So... the whole murder could've been prevented if this guys mother didn't enable his behavior. If she would've called the police/told her HUSBAND about the illegal weapons and drugs.. and NOT purchased her loser drop-out drug dealer son another* firearm. At this point...she's just as guilty as he is.

    • @Shannon-vv6rr
      @Shannon-vv6rr 4 місяці тому

      The father is just as guilty too he was so absent from his own sons life that he didn't know he's not even in School or have a gun

  • @TameciaArchibald
    @TameciaArchibald 5 місяців тому +6

    So so crazy, that they overturned his first conviction…. Absolutely no justice for Patrick and his pice of shit brother will still be the option to walk free one day…

  • @jayharris832
    @jayharris832 5 місяців тому +27

    The fact that the mother bought the gun that the son killed the brother with is just a tragedy 😢🙏🏾

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому +2

      Tragedies are unavoidable accidents. This was stupidity and enabling.

    • @neptunered5283
      @neptunered5283 3 місяці тому

      ​@@___Lyric___I agree. Definitely not a tragedy. Definitely stupidly. He was going to do it to someone after what the mother did. Better to keep it in the family🎉 as sad as that is. At least it punishes the mother somewhat if the justice system didn't.

  • @johnnyfreak6806
    @johnnyfreak6806 5 місяців тому +39

    I love how you ALWAYS pay respects to the victims before the video🙏🙏🙏

    • @Uglyalrhaydur
      @Uglyalrhaydur 5 місяців тому

      They ARE NOT victims. Furthest thing from actually. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

    • @alexlogan202
      @alexlogan202 5 місяців тому

      It's virtue signaling

  • @BuccaneerBruce
    @BuccaneerBruce 5 місяців тому +59

    BTW the dad was ONLY speaking out for Riley, he was NOT speaking for Patrick.

    • @amyqb117
      @amyqb117 5 місяців тому +4

      Everyone blames the mum but what was the father doing? Where is the strong hand a father should bring in? We all blame mum for buying a gun but what about all the steps before then?

    • @em84c
      @em84c 5 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@amyqb117i guess because he didn't allow guns in the house. The mum and Riley were hiding it from him.
      But yea he had to know his son dropped out if school and was up to no good

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому +5

      @@amyqb117dad was an absentee father for sure. He’s guilty of that. But the mom bought the gun so she’s the one who needs to be charged legally. They’re both terrible parents though absolutely.
      Some people shouldn’t reproduce.

    • @neptunered5283
      @neptunered5283 3 місяці тому

      ​@@amyqb117THE MOTHER BOUGHT HER VIOLENT SON A GUN. Let it sink into your little puny brain please!

  • @guineasauras-rex
    @guineasauras-rex 5 місяців тому +7

    Well, we can see where Riley gets his temper from.

  • @Jenny_thebeaglemom
    @Jenny_thebeaglemom 5 місяців тому +4

    That mother should be in jail. She’s just as reckless as her son.

  • @sqrd3536
    @sqrd3536 5 місяців тому +13

    It doesn't matter how fierce the parents are defending their murderous son. He's a messed up individual who's unlikely to last long outside prison. Refusing to hold their son accountable will be their own undoing. They failed as parents and they shouldn't be pointing fingers at justice but themselves. Murder is murder. Law works above all arrogance.

  • @Justintime619
    @Justintime619 5 місяців тому +32

    The mom should be charged

  • @broeheemed32
    @broeheemed32 5 місяців тому +35

    Mmm hmm. Does an end run around her husband because she knows he wouldn't allow it, and now one son is dead and the other went to prison. Good job, "mama bear".

  • @maclennerd7514
    @maclennerd7514 5 місяців тому +8

    Racked the gun, ejecting the bullet, and then dropped the mag, thinking the chamber was clear…. Either this kids a cold blooded killer and bad liar or completely ignorant to how semi automatic firearms work.

    • @davids7211
      @davids7211 5 місяців тому

      Yeah he did that ass backwards

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому +2

      Both might be the case.

  • @sweetanila26
    @sweetanila26 5 місяців тому +5

    The parents thought that the sentence was too harsh for their minor aged son but they did not think Riley was too young to have guns and sell drugs 🧐 make that make sense.

  • @jesusistheonlyway-xy9sj
    @jesusistheonlyway-xy9sj 5 місяців тому +29

    Being a friend to her son changed the moms life forever when she bought that gun for her son! So sad!

  • @dazedhavoc
    @dazedhavoc 5 місяців тому +32

    Days later, he does the inevitable.

  • @mariannepfly1906
    @mariannepfly1906 5 місяців тому +30

    4-15 years. This guy got away with murder!!

  • @nighthawwwk
    @nighthawwwk 5 місяців тому +6

    Dead eyes. Pure evil. The parents should be charged too.

  • @LezBob
    @LezBob 5 місяців тому +5

    wow if that is not a lack of remorse and detachment I don't know what else is.

  • @sharkskinboy
    @sharkskinboy 5 місяців тому +11

    I'm not a parent, but this kid really doesn't look to me like the type you would want to buy a gun for.

  • @sctenz
    @sctenz 5 місяців тому +12

    I saw the body cam where they're interviewing the dad at the hospital. You can heard the mom crying and screaming non -stop. Seemed like she realized she was partly to blame. So sad.

  • @Godless_Doc
    @Godless_Doc 5 місяців тому +25

    He may have had intent, but I don’t see how the state could have proven that beyond a reasonable doubt in this case.

    • @davidlancaster8152
      @davidlancaster8152 5 місяців тому +8

      Thanks for being a voice of reason and actually paying attention. 👍

    • @___Lyric___
      @___Lyric___ 5 місяців тому +3

      @@davidlancaster8152him being out on 4 years is still a joke no matter how you slice it. You think he’s gonna come out of prison and be an honorable member of society and not continue to deal and use violence? Pffft. What a joke.

    • @Dennis19901
      @Dennis19901 3 місяці тому

      @@___Lyric___ That's entirely irrelevant to this case or how the justice system works. You'd incarcerate someone for life just on a hunch that they *might* commit crimes again later.
      There wasn't any proof he intended to shoot his brother, and the first sentencing was entirely unfair.

  • @Playsinthedirt
    @Playsinthedirt 5 місяців тому +19

    Cain and Abel

    • @koda3266
      @koda3266 5 місяців тому +5

      Exactly 💯

    • @kelvyjojohnson5091
      @kelvyjojohnson5091 5 місяців тому +4

      "Nothing new under the sun."

    • @InYourFace-pv6eb
      @InYourFace-pv6eb 5 місяців тому +4

      That's what I was thinking too. YAH's blessings to you.

  • @eduardodiaz9942
    @eduardodiaz9942 5 місяців тому +4

    Where I'm from, a parent buying a gun to their underage child is a felony that carries jail time. Just sayin'.

  • @evilnineteen
    @evilnineteen 5 місяців тому +133

    Textbook case of why you dont play with guns. Its a tool, not a toy.

    • @RightToFreedomGirl
      @RightToFreedomGirl 5 місяців тому +2

      @evil : Stopmpkaying dumb. You heard him afmit they didnt pike ea. other. How was it an accident ? lol

    • @auzieblo
      @auzieblo 5 місяців тому +7

      ​@@RightToFreedomGirlwhaaattttt? I'm getting a bit dizzy attempting to read that 😬

    • @RobAlpacaflip
      @RobAlpacaflip 5 місяців тому +4

      @@auzieblo dude typed that with his fuckin elbow lmfao

    • @gigibythesea1133
      @gigibythesea1133 5 місяців тому +7

      It's not a 'tool', it's a weapon.

    • @kaitlanparks8061
      @kaitlanparks8061 5 місяців тому +1

      @@gigibythesea1133”Instrument” would probably better describe it in most situations.

  • @valerieabney7966
    @valerieabney7966 5 місяців тому +13

    His mom messed up on that one. She should have told his dad and reported him. If he told her that he would run away, oh, well, he would just have to go!! He's a big boy.

    • @brookeclevenger2636
      @brookeclevenger2636 5 місяців тому

      This!! If your son chooses to drop out and become a drug dealer, he is making grown choices and needs grown consequences! She should’ve called the cops when she found the guns and drugs.

  • @JustAGirlWhoLovesCats
    @JustAGirlWhoLovesCats 5 місяців тому +12

    He sounded more like he was 40 than 16.

    • @hi-ic2nb
      @hi-ic2nb 5 місяців тому

      Audio recordings can sometimes change how your voice sounds kinda like talking on the phone can I def sound a lot different on phone calls.

  • @raebaker4712
    @raebaker4712 5 місяців тому +3

    I was small kid in elementary school when Pat was killed. I grew up with him being the best person at the YMCA and my whole family attended his memorial at the YMCA later. So sad to hear that it was more than an accident.

  • @carlomanesc08
    @carlomanesc08 5 місяців тому +2

    He said that after the shooting, his brother died in 3 minutes. But when he's taken to the ambulance to get checked, he's suddenly histerically asking how his brother is doing?

  • @lynnfaulkner2706
    @lynnfaulkner2706 5 місяців тому +10

    It seems absurd to me that the person most responsible for this tragedy will not bear any legal accountability. Riley's incredibly indulgent mother, who made so many unbelievably poor choices, will have to live with her son's death for the rest of her life. Unfortunately, she will no doubt blame everyone but herself. Riley's father is a perfect example of an absent father, who knew nothing about what was going on his own home and with his own children. This is American culture today.

  • @kennykaniff
    @kennykaniff 5 місяців тому +4

    I've been a fan of this page basically since the very beginning (under 1K subs in Sept 2020 with my original YT acct) when it was called "FEAR FILES" and you posted a community post asking us/the subs which NEW name we liked the best out of a list of 4 new names and that's when this new name for the channel was chosen. You were already a TOP NOTCH TC channel at that time and here we are several years later and even tho the name of the channel has changed, the content is definitely one of the best TC channela on this platform. It's been really cool to watch the channel grow to what it is today and its only going to grow more. Truly one of the best TC channels out there
    KEEP PUSHIN'!!!
    🤘🏻🇬🇧

  • @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986
    @whatsshakinbaconnothinjust2986 5 місяців тому +8

    If Riley really want to honor his brother when he gets out dude should do something positive with his life.

  • @cayla7820
    @cayla7820 4 місяці тому +2

    This is so similar to what happened to me but thankfully I lived through it. Although, I just had brain surgery to remove a blood clot from my brain stem due to a car wreck about a year before. My hair was still very short. My ex was just as wreckless as this guy & he was playing around with a 🔫 & loaded, unloaded it, shot it a few times. Then, he held it to my head & asked if I trusted him. I said yeah and before I could get the word out he pulled the trigger. He kept on & on saying "I knew it wasn't loaded" I was so upset. A week later his best friend shot a hole through his ceiling bc he knew "it wasn't loaded" I have been beyond lucky in life. RiP Pat.

  • @SusanDougill
    @SusanDougill 5 місяців тому +4

    She should be prosecuted for buying him the gun. He hasn't learned anything. Speech all about him