Lego Star Wars 2 DS is the Worst DS Game Ever Made: Retrospective
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- Опубліковано 13 лют 2023
- Well here it is. I decided to remake this video because I think that the original video was just bad. But I thank everyone that waited for this one and look forward to making more soon with the new series Nostalgic Retrospectives coming real soon.
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![Looking Back at Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga [Retrospective Review]](/img/n.gif)
Fun fact with the character creator: If you give your character a lightsaber but also give them Han Solo's legs, he can still do the jump/roll/triple blaster shot even with a lightsaber. I always used this for my saber characters so they can also shoot.
Luke Skywalker's Dagobah outfit could do the same thing.
That brings back memories, I always used to do that with the gun that fires bombs, you'd triple shoot the bombs
If you do that with a red lightsaber and jetpack you end up with the most powerful character in the star wars universe that can open all doors, bomb bounty hunter metal thingies and open dark side doors. It's so OP and broken, only limitation is that you can't fit into ewok spaces, though you could sacrifice the Han shooting legs and use ewok legs.
Incredible
Can't believe Princess Leia hit the griddy to save C-3PO and R2-D2.
bro has some serious beef with this game
Cringe bro comment
@@brandonnitro4029 you upload fortnite clips. Opinion invalidated.
@@brandonnitro4029you do NOT know what cringe is
@@brandonnitro4029in what way is this cringe lmao ?
This entire thread is cringe, you're all gay. The video is funny, though.
I remember several hellish bugs playing this growing up, from unresponsive buttons to spawning ships in the hub, falling out of bounds and extremely broken camera problems, definitely was a sight to behold
I remember somehow ending up as a TIE Fighter in the cantina, and that just permanently screwed up my save file.
This was on The Complete Saga, but every so often I’d get this bug where the graphics were totally fucked up. Freaked the hell outta me as a kid
@@The_JustJoshingI got a similar bug on the Indiana Jones game where everything turned brown and yellow
@@rocco5361 Yeah, it was kind of like that. Like every pixel was a random color. It was really freaky.
Spawning ships in the hub was awesone
I remember getting this game to 92% completion (100% was impossible due to Europe having a version that couldn't be patched) and then getting stuck as the fricking MILLENIUM FALCON in the cantina after having a buggy vehicle multiplayer level.
custom character creator goes crazy
I’m so glad I’m not the only one got stuck with the millennium falcon in the cantina lmfao
i had an xwing stuck in the cantina and couldn't play it
My eternal ship hell is a Snowspeeder in the cantina
@@rocketpg_9532Star Wars is amazing right!
This game was a weird part of my childhood that I often think was a dream
So much of the imagery and sounds are burned into my brain
YES
That one weird flute/harpsichord track lives in my brain eternally
This game was my childhood. I love the heck out of it and then when I played it on the Xbox right realize how much better it was on that system compared to the DS
I thought this game was a fever dream I had after playing The Complete Saga on DS but apparently it was real. I can’t believe I played this when I was a kid
Ykw same. I originally bought my copy years ago used (don’t have it anymore). It already had a completed save on it I honestly should’ve spent my money on something better
On the real tho TCS for the DS is fucking great and might be my favorite version.
This game was such a weird experience that I've never forgotten. Getting lost on almost every level, especially Endor, and having events that are supposed to lead into the next area never trigger. It was so strange, but I kind of want to play it again.
From what I heard, the game’s beta was accidentally released instead of the full retail product, and the full product is a rare sell.
Idk if that's true
Not quite. The first print run of the game is so buggy that it’s impossible to beat. The next printing of the game however had the game breaking bugs fixed. The fixed version isn’t rare or anything but pretty much everyone who got the game in the first month or two was screwed over.
@@geeboysgamesandmore49 that's hilarious
@@geeboysgamesandmore49 My mistake. Thank you. Just misremembering shit.
So how can you tell which version you get if you want to buy it now?
I used to own this game. My copy seemed to be a slightly more stable version, with less major bugs which meant it was actually possible to 100%. But there were still loads of glitches to be found, like how using the character creator would permanently mess up the draw distance until you turned off the DS.
This game isn't good but it has a lot of bizarre stuff in it. For example the Hoth base level, there's this hidden room with mutated people in tubes. Releasing them kills the lights and makes each room have a fixed camera angle, like a weird Resident Evil parody. And of course the Sandbox which confused everyone, because it's just a test map they threw in for some reason.
Very weird game.
Yea they re-released this game and kind of fixed it but its still not good. And yes that part on hoth is super weird.
That part in Hoth with the test tube people genuinely scared me as a kid. Mixed with the music choice for that level, it was unnerving to me
Leia was obviously dancing to distract Vader while the droids got away
Loved this game as a kid. The multiplayer bounty Hunter mode was a fun addition.
Same my fellow Gonk
The funniest glitch in the multiplayer mode was Lando's game breaking ground pound.😂
@@solorowry9683I remember if you used download game, it would crash when a bounty hunter died
9:30 when I was young and I played this game, that part with the swinging logs literally made me break my DS in half in rage
Mark this day on your calendars for todays lego Star Wars 2 hits the shelf!
This was one of my first DS games too and my favourite I had a Save file with 3,2 million studs (I am god damn proud of that number) game on 98% since I couldn't figure out what to do in that weird bonus level that is in between the minikit room and the multiplayer room. I then accidentally ruined it when I found a bug where if you try to enter a level in free play and then exit you had the free play character switcher available in Mos Eisley's Cantina. NEVER NEVER NEVER EVER DO THIS VEHICLES IT WILL SOFTLOCK YOU!
I think I remember that one it was super funny
I found that bug too. Had to say goodbye to my 98.2% save file
@@Idonthaveausernameyet RIP
I remember getting softlocked in this game
I also remember having a bunch of fun with the in-game cheat codes and character creation
I loved this game as a kid.
The bugs were just a fun little bonus for me.
Like spawning your free play characters in the middle of a cutscene or an infinite r2d2 death loop on Tatooine.
This game was one of my favourite games to play on the DS when I was a little kid, and boy do I remember the difficult challenges in the game that I was never able solve, and the strange bugs that sometimes would occur in Jabba's palace room with carbonite Han. The most annoying thing that would happen often to me, was the slide glitch on Jabba's Sail Barge, where I would slide on the side of the ship and fall to my death over and over again, never being able to escape it.
"strike me down and I'll become more powerful than you imagine!" while he forgets to do the dissapearing trick
You forgot the most important part. At least in the German/EU version I have, there is a Minikit that is entirely missing. So you could not even unlock everything. Unfortunately, that one vehicle you could not unlock had some special mechanics needed to unlock others, so I was blocked out of some unlockables.
Back then I tried getting this Minikit for hours, but once I was old enough to look this up on the Internet, I finally got the confirmation that it simply was not there.
What I liked a lot on this game was that in the free mode, I could access ALL charcters and not only 1 or 2 of each class like it is the case for other Lego games.
This was my childhood game and I will always remember that horrid jumping on logs section on Endor. It was just an absolute nightmare when I was a kid.
Man, this game became so bugged at some point.
I could get stuck in a pit on the death star. Could only play the final level by accessing it through story mode. „Play“ as vehicles in the hub for Episode 6.
I still loved it since I didn’t have the console version and it was a step up from the previous GBA game.
In the Death Star level, there's a point where you can choose to go the wrong way through, which makes the pits have a bottom if you fall down (meaning you get stuck) and causes the Falcon to disappear, so even if you aren't stuck in a hole at this point you can't complete the level anyway.
It's also impossible to do the Palpatine fight in free play despite there being minikits you can't reach in story mode.
Another fun thing to do was enter the vehicle selection screen of a ship level then quit back to the cantina, which meant you could change to a ship in the hub and effectively softlock your entire game unless you somehow got lucky enough to switch back to one of the minifig characters walking around. IIRC, if you chose a ship too big you'd be clipping through the cantina so much that you'd be too far away from any NPCs to do that. And you'd still be stuck as a ship even if you quit back to the menu lol
@@AutomatonArchiveyeah I've always wondered about the mini kits! How are you supposed to get them!!
my mind is blown because in all the hours i put into this game as a kid i NEVER saw that endor hidden boss
Ill never forget this game, as a kid on the emperor battle, the emperor actually managed to clip into the ground and completely softlock every single time I would play it, so i could not advance
The lego handheld games are a warm yet frightening core memory for me
I remember having this game as a kid. I always wondered why it felt so jank.
OMG this game was my childhood
idk if it was just me but i remember a bugged minikit on the palpatine level that literally made the game impossible to 100%, not to mention a bunch of other game-breaking glitches (mostly in episode 6 free play) that basically softlock the game
i remember i was able to 100% this multiple times up to the point where speeder chase in episode 6 has that 1 glitched minikit that you could never get along with not knowing how you were ever meant to get into jedi destiny to do freeplay, so it was 100% minus jedi destiny freeplay and 1 glitched minikit
Loved this game ! So much weird secret ! You didn t talked about the secret sandbox level ! It s definetly weirder than the boss fight of andor
And there was also a multiplayer mode that was crazy broken
Yea I was going to make a mention of the Sandbox level but I decided to leave it out because I couldn't find a good way to put it in. Ill probably make a separate video about it one day. With the emulator I use there was no way I could record footage of the bounty hunter challenge.
@@Nostalgic9080 i understand :) your video was really great by the way
The PSP version was identical to the home console one and it even had the boss fight levels ( Darth Maul, Count Dooku, Darth Vader ) along with every character from the first game as unlockables.😊
Well, the PSP is a far more powerful device that can handle ps2-like games.
Wow, when you said that Vader and Leia cutscene was one of the better ones, you weren't joking.
That Han Solo one on the Speeder Chase legit made my jaw drop. I have no clue what the hell that was.
I never completed the Cloud City Luke/R2D2 console puzzle legit. I just kept resetting until all the lights were green, because I never knew you could use R2 on the panels.
One very distinct memory I have is about trying to get one of the minikits on Endor (the one shown at 13:28, iirc). You're supposed to use a Force character to build a bridge to jump over to the minikit, but either the force object was too far away, or it simply never prompted you to use the force. You couldn't jump the gap, even with a jetpack, because it was too far. I finally managed to get over to the minikit by using a jetpack character, jumping, then rapidly switching characters, which would reset your downward momentum, while maintaining your forward momentum.
I owned this game when I was a kid! A few things I remember that I don't think you mentioned:
1: The game can't be 100% completed. There are minikits which are missing in some levels. Most I was able to get was 98.5% or something.
2: The minikit for the Pit of Carkoon is Bosh Leia, I think. For some reason though she was massive on the minikit screen, unlike every other character minikit.
3: Lightsabers dealt 2 damage, and the lightsaber stomp did 4.
4: Dagobah Luke is in the game if you use the "Unlock all characters" cheat. He has a lightsaber but can't use the force, and he can roll. However when someone rolls it's programmed that you can shoot a gun, as every other rolling character has a gun and lightsaber users can't jump and roll-except for him. So if you jump and roll you can shoot lasers from his hand. It was probably going to be a level but was scrapped.
Jabbas palace would crash on free play
It is pretty cool that in Free Play you have access to the whole roster unlike the console version and for whatever reason the 2 Player Bounty Hunter vs. was REALLY fun. But yeah this game is just weird, some of the things that happen in it are so out of place they were almost scary to kid me.
Kid me would play this all the damn time. I was like 8 and I remember bringing my damn DS everywhere playing this game lol.
hearing the soundtrack again gave me so many deep rage memories playing this with my brother as a kid omg
I couldn’t help but notice Luke fights left-handed in this game, which is correct in the movies because Mark in real life is left-handed. Granted in the movies he switches between both hands to fight, but I haven’t seen any other Lego Star Wars game get that detail right. But apart from that, this game sure confused me as a kid, growing up with the Xbox version then playing this was very different. I remember after playing Jedi Destiny and beating Palpatine, there was an extra part of the level that I got thrown into, and I couldn’t beat the level after that.
"Mark today in the history books, for today lego starwars 2 hits shelves"
-Ethan CTRL+Alt+delete 9/11/2006
trying to get all the mini kits in this game was damn near impossible as a kid.
I remember playing this game as a kid and liking it, but I also remember the Complete Saga being infinitely better.
This game is humorous. I beat one of the new hope levels and when i went to continue story it took me to jabbas palace but jabbas palace was horribly corrupted and unplayable as textures kept glitching out or becoming discolored
Gosh damn, I remember breaking this game apart on accident by curiosity when I was younger despite not having nearly as much experience to playing games. This game was sort of like Security Breach levels of easily breaking the game to me.
I was so young when I got this game I always thought it was my cartridge that was damaged
The Obi wan cutscene legit made me laugh out loud.
At 7:30, That barricade to Han consists of 3 separate barricades, a yellow, a green, and a blue.
At 7:37 you can see the 3 doors, each colored with either yellow, green, or blue. Each contains its respective switch.
I belive that's how that works
I had this game as a kid and maybe my version was bugged but it often happened that the portraits in freeplay disappeared. Every time i entered the room with the searching lights in jabba’s palace they would go blank
I have no idea if that "play Jedi Destiny any time" thing is a bug or not. Mentioned this in a reply to someone else's comment but in my copy of the game, the Palpatine fight was an extra segment of the vehicle level where you blow up the DS2, and you couldn't do the fight in free play because it would only let you replay the vehicle bit.
That's part of the reason I never got all the minikits, as well as one during IV that would never appear. Didn't get to play the "sandbox" level :(
Those damn logs on Endor... it feels so cathartic to hear someone else talk about how awful that part of the game is haha, could never get past that part as a kid so I never finished the game. Great vid, you summed up this broken janky mess of a game very well
My grandma gave me this game as a Christmas gift way back when, I don’t remember finding any major glitches except if you made a custom zack the Lego maniac character and used him in the palpatine fight the game would crash when you get hit
Oh boy, I watch this gameplay and I can hear my little brother shouting at his Nintendo DS. I remember how frustrating it was for us to beat this game, and at a point he gave this game up and then I went ahead and tried to beat it, ending in almost the same result.
I played this game at age 6!
_It was one of my first DS games!_
*And it was so broken that even kid me thought it sucked ass!*
I could never finish it because I got stuck on the Ewok forest with no idea where to go and then that horrendous log platforming section just COMPLETELY filtered me.
I would only finish it years later, at like age 18, after checking a _guide_ to know where to go in that level.
One thing I have to give this game credit for though, having the ENTIRE character roster available at once in Freeplay from the bottom screen is neat and it makes me wish the console versions had that.
_As in, it makes me wish a feature like that was on a better version instead..._
Funnily enough, i remember the worst part about this was that it only used parts of the JW score that wasnt iconic.
Far from "the worst part." Every part of the John Williams score is iconic to some extent.
I was obsessed with the multiplayer bounty hunter vs game, that was the main thing i played. Always thought it was interesting that many bounty hunters would crash the game in that mode, and also that only the host could pick characters while everyone else was stuck as greedo. Im very curious about the sandbox door in the cantina though, i never was able to try it as a kid and no one seems to talk about it or what it is
Yeah it didn’t work without two games
I remember that one of the pins on my lil bro's ds was mangled, so the game got all scratched and thus, got even buggier
Your 100% reward is stranded in the desert simulator
I remember having this game. Apparently you can force-unlock Episode 5 by flying above it with a jetpack character, the locked door just immediately opens. I saw online that there's a test level that can't be accessed because the data isn't on the disc, but some users reported they'd accidentally load that test level. Very odd. Have you tried putting a lightsaber on a custom droid character? Weird things happen. Also, floating Wuher.... and Jango Fett is here somehow?
Edit: forgot the free play glitch - bring vehicles into on-foot levels and vice versa!
the speeder chase was a great way to earn stubs.
The Endor level was the bane of my existence when I was a kid 😂
I would argue it has been like this for every single Lego DS game ever made.
This video unlocked memories that I didn’t even know I had. I loved this game when I was a kid because I too had zero standards, and strangely I remember the Ewok level being my favorite.
Thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the video
That swinging log level cause me constant rage as a child
As a kid playing tcs ds I could very consistently cause a game-wide texture bug by replacing Darth Vader over and over
Also sometimes at random characters' arm animations would overextend, that was always funny
I played this game when I was younger. I noticed one of my favorite things about it that you left out. That was the local multiplayer matches you could have on the DS. I remember playing capture the flag with my brother and me playing as bounty hunters. I know on emulators, it can be hard to get footage of that, but I wish you would have mentioned it in the video
This was my first video game, I was six years old and despite all its flaws I was obsessed with it. Thank you so much for finally explaining that “puzzle” at 5:42 I remember I would literally just restart the level over and over again until they all happened to be green right at the start because I had no idea what to do. Thats so infuriating, how the hell would anyone know that R2 could do that??
As an 8 year old i remember being stuck on the cloud city map cus of the awful camera bug.
I live how in freeplay you can change characters and move around during cutscenes, I would always kill Darth Vader during cutscenes
That abysmal Endor level reminds me of Donkey Kong Jr. if it were a 3D platformer game.
Lego Star Wars The Complete Saga for ds is however, a masterpiece
I played the Hell out of this game on my DS, so much so that when my cartridge went bad, I actually bought another one.
Unfortunately, the new cartridge immediately crashes whenever I try to play the asteroid level in Episode 5.
This game was weird and awkward, but it was definitely a blast before I knew how bad it was, it still is fun if you want to laugh at the glitches in it. The best glitch I've seen so far was the final cutscene glitching and all of the Ewoks turned hostile to my created character that had a Stormtrooper helmet on, and they basically just lynched him while the camera panned normally.
I got this game for my brother (it wasn’t just his first DS game it was his first video game). I remember it was really strange and there were some bugs that made it so some levels we just couldn’t beat. I remember the multiplayer pvp didn’t really work but seemed fun and i definitely liked the idea of the ship segments more than the top down view they went for in The Complete Saga on the DS (even though those ship segments wouldn’t even load in.
It's fortunate that nowadays handheld versions of games are usually just the same game with worse graphics, it's funny to look at examples in the past where the handheld versions of games had little if anything in common with the original, just a completely unrelated game taking advantage of the same branding, the gameboy probably had the most egregious examples of this.
I didn't know it was a different version, I thought it was just episodes 4, 5 and 6 of the complete saga on DS
I’m glad that I wasn’t the only one that had problems with this game, especially when I was little
At least we got to play as Han Solo in the carbanite.
in the vader obiwan fight level, if you play it in free play you literally can't finish it because it just softlocks you in the cutscene after the fight
Yea its a very annoying bug
I had this as a kid! Even back then I realised what a horrible mess it was. My favorite glitch that I found was that the Mos Eisley Cantina barman had the ability to…float. Like, he could just straight up levitate and move around like he had hover boots on. Intentional? Who knows. Incredible to witness? Absolutely
The character creator in the normal game is honestly terrible, I remember trying to create literally any character idea I had as a kid and being unable to, never played the DS one but the character creator looks wayyy better.
Ah yes, one of my saves got messed up because after a flight level I came back to the Hub as a ship and couldnt do anything. The game saved like that...yeah
Multiplayer was funny tho
Mama doin the neatest griddy I’ve ever seen on the thumbnail 😮😈
okay so you missing a big point,... you can't finish the game at 100% without emulator cause there is a mini kit in the chapter 6 mission 3 the speeder level you can get cause it's buggy and so without it you can play in free play the emperor fight. and the secret level of the dev put when you have do all true jedi in the game
I got this game on Easter when I was little I already had the complete saga on DS but since it was called Lego Star Wars 2 I thought it was an improved version I played through the first level and got fazed through a wall and saw 3 Lego guys in a room 2 of them were kneeling down to the third one that was on a slightly elevated platform while he was doing attack animations on loop it actually kinda scared me so I just went back to playing complete saga and never touched that game again.
This game is by far the most glitch-riddled mess of a game I have ever played. I could not finish the Defense of Endor level due to every place I went having no further place to go to play the level, every level between it and the Emperor battle level got skipped as a result because for some reason that final level unlocked itself with no trigger I could find, playing that same level in Free Play caused it to be unfinishable, and the cherry on top of this sundae was that when my DS died in the middle of my replay of the Death Star Assault level, I charged it, booted it back up, and found my game file was now unplayable because my initial character INSIDE THE CANTINA had become an X-Wing Fighter, meaning I could not move. The multiplayer barely functioned, the level design I remember to be crap, and when the aforementioned X-Wing glitch happened, that was the last straw for me, who in a teenage tantrum smashed the game with a hammer and get fucking pissed whenever I am reminded of it now
I had weird issues on my copy, the game would crash in freeplay if palpatine electricuted me, but also the camera would break in freeplay, so if I fell into a pit, instead of dying, I'd just get stuck down there.
Not to mention the game would crash a lot too, especially in multiplayer.
The secret bounty hunter level was my favorite part of this game! I played it up until my sister accidentally saved over my save and I lost everything. It was such a fun childhood memory that I had forgotten about until this video 😂
Your voice has such a great vibe for retrospective/review videos honestly was really chill
Thanks glad you enjoyed
The ghost characters taking damage pissed me off. I saved up so many studs to unlock them only for it to not matter.
Man I remember even with all of bugs and general lack of polish I still liked this game as a kid, but man this video is a real eye opener.
Hey, I had this as a kid! I also had Complete Saga. Even then, I preferred CS. This game has pretty dreadful graphics (even for the DS), unsettlingly canned music (there was a song that actually scared me as a kid, I think it was called Runner's Blockade or something), and boring gameplay. It's so good to see someone tear it to shreds.
i remember the barkeeper being a playable character and he was somehow able to float?
Game was nostalgic, but I remember the bug at the end where Palpatine is already dead and vader is still alive and isn‘t moving at all. Just staying at the same spot for hours. While background music is the same.
If you thought the rebel helmets looked weird in this game its because they actually use retextured versions of the deathstar trooper helmets rather than the actual rebel trooper helmet models. I guess they thought it would save on resources and memory to just have 1 helmet for both than 2 separate ones. Didn't think 1 helmet would make that much of a difference, but there you go.
When I played this as a kid I didn’t really care about “good” or “bad” games. I just liked playing a Star Wars game.
My man here is the AVGN ASMR edition
I remember when me and my brother were kids, we had this game and it bugged out on Jabba’s palace in free play, making it unable to fully complete. I thought our copy individually was just damaged. Lol
PLEASE release a full compilation of the cutscenes from this game
Thanks for the idea I really like that one
@@Nostalgic9080 I'll be eagerly awaiting it :)
This may sound really weird but your voice is relaxing ngl bro
This game feels like some weird fever dream or scp or something
I remember getting stuck in pits that were supposed to kill me on more than one occasion
dude i remember spam swapping characters in free play during cut scenes allowing me to free move 😭😭
I played the hell out of this game as a kid. That wierd song that plays when leia is dancing at r2 in that cutscene after the first level will be burned into my mind forever