Also a few things, by double clicking the M on the handle bars you can access the settings and change the settings for the battery display, it does climb hills fairly well but not steep ones, it hits 55 mph for lighter riders and be wary of the back bolts that hold the tire, they like to come loose during rides.. add some loctite. These are specs coming from the top 2.0 version though.
Yep, loctite on the rear nuts is a good idea. Mine came loose too. I recently cranked them really tight with large wrenches. Went on a few rides since. Going to check them again.
My bike is capable of 28mph but I set it for 20. I can't do it by myself, but I'm trying to delay the day when too many people complain about "bicycles" going faster than legal, and they pass laws to register and license ebikes. Also, the jerks tearing up the hiking trails I like to ride don't seem to understand that there aren't any "No Karens" signs at the forest preserve, so don't annoy the Karens or they'll complain and we'll all get kicked off the trails...!
Which is why it’s best to play nice with people. If you’re forced to ride on the sidewalk then you have to be accommodating and move over for people. Basically more considerate. When I see people on trails or if it’s packed with people I make it a point to slow down. I prefer slow and controller movements than speeding. Or stopping at stop signs to show that you’re no threat and that you don’t ride recklessly. You’d have to be doubly smart and know how to work and handle your speeds since you ride much slower than traffic. My top speed is 30mph BUTi increased it’s torque so I can get to 30 much quicker. The increased torque allows me to move from dead much easier and allows me to move quicker at lights and stop signs.
It is a nice bike , my only issue is with it is company's like Delfast and what they do. Basically this bike is nothing more than a generic china E bike you have been able to get on china websites for over 7 years at this point and can be bought for around $2500 with the exact same spec forks battery belt drive tires basically controller the exact same bike, and here is my issue is that company's like Delfast buy these china bikes in bulk often for even cheaper, then stick brand stickers on it and claim they made it and then sell it for 3 or 4 times the price
I absolutely agree. But they are also cutting out a lot of the hassle of importing, customs fees, etc. that 95% of consumers don't know how to do or wouldn't want to figure out.
Agreed, though at this configuration (20S15P), you'd really have to go for the el cheapo parts to hit $2500 though. A frame that came with good warranty and decent welding and powder coating set me back 600 euros at Vector Ebike in Europe, and a reliable controller that would be able to push that battery would be a cool 400 euros. With 4 euros a piece for decent cells, my virtual voice slave converted that to exactly $2500 -- with no hub motor, front or rear suspension, saddle, wheels, brakes, ...
@@DeAndre1970 Well no it is not basic business, most company's design or make their own product and then sell it at a reasonable profit or they import and then sell at a reasonable profit, and they try to balance retail price to be fair to the customer and retain a decent profit margin because most decent company's are smart enough to know that if you blatantly over charge a customer for a product they will eventually find out and word will get around , company's like this one in the video and as you pointed out there are a few, will import a cheap generic product from china brand it then claim they made it then claim its special in some way ( like the GB record thing ) and then massively mark it up to see what suckers they can catch and they catch many that think they are buying something american made or special when in reality they are simply being over charged. As i pointed out this exact bike is around $3200 individual or as low as $2500 for bulk purchases of 20 units or more, and a company like this would bulk order so they basically got it for $2500 but selling for $6600 to give the impression of a premium product, that's around a 167% mark up and even factoring in import costs that is simply an obscene price. As the saying goes just because you can does not mean you should and just because others do does not mean you should also
@@theprodigalstranger5259 haha I sure hope he will be! Still got the nervous energy, but we'll figure it out as we go. He's going to be spending most of his time listening to wrenches in the garage haha
Oh cool! I have their dealer paperwork to send in today. We'll be selling these right next to our current E-Enduro line up. I've also applied to Guinness to challenge their distance record. Have some fun with it. Don't slam a curb down 35+ or you'll blow out the wheel. Got a rim and spokes coming to fix it.
If you get pulled over it you would be lucky if all they ask you is to move to the bike lane. It's till illegal because it's over 750w and anything over that regardless of pedals is suppose to be registered.
This good sir is now one of my dream toys. Wow this is absolutely revolutionary. Great video and now I am a subscriber!! Thanks again for the information!!
Surron 260x is also cheaper than this. The only thing this one has that’s better is battery life probably. I don’t like the rubber chain. I believe that will fail easily
weve built these things up ourselves with parts of ebay ,but used 84 volt nominal batteries ,and unlocked sabvoton controllers running 400 to 500 phase amps , these things can hit 80 to 90 kms per hour easy ,but the key is getting the schlumf drive crankset, can actually pedal the bike fast then. im pretty sure the controller they supply with this one isnt pc programable though.
The Delfast is 84 V too, when you charge it all the way up. You are right, it doesn't have a programmable controller. Where can I get a Schlumf Drive that doesn't break the bank?😀
I got that same frame, but whit cheaper parts. 2.5kw continues power, 52v 30ah lfp-battery and good enough suspension and brakes. It does 35mp, 60m range and costs was 1700$. I will build a bigger battery pack and put better brakes, but it has been good for everyday rides even at winter. I ride whit it to work every day, becouse I don't have a car.
@@crolombiano4226 I started with zero knowledge but thanks to yt and $1200 I was able to build an electric 60v moped that did 50mph at 3000w. But I'm a light guy at 5'9 and 130lbs
Awesome ebike! I build these ebikes with fattires and build custom battery packs. I'm 6'2" and have the front fork at 45 psi and put on a 240mm rear shock and it rides a lot smoother. Great bikes for sure.
In the UK, for road use, it is classed exactly as a petrol motorcycle, requiring registration, insurance, riders licence. Big penalties for those without.
How could it be legal in California with a 3000W motor? The limit is 750W for all E-bikes. I guess that makes this a motorcycle so you would need license and insurance.
Good review. But for a base price of 7k you'd really have to be wealthy or frivolous with your money to spend that on an ebike. You could buy a sick 3k dollar ebike like a v2 2wD Grizzly and buy 2 more batteries for it, buy a case or basket for them and get crazier range like this and have tons left over to buy a used car or another backup bike.
In California you are supposed to register any thing larger than 750 watts or faster than 28mph , but it's hard for the cops to enforce . If they even know the law .
Great review, I think laws in time are going to catch up with what's classified as an e-bike vs a "e-bike" that has pedals on it and goes 50+ mph. I can only imagine the troubles one could get into if they collide with another object (human, bicyclist, car) with no registration or insurance.
“E-Bikes now will be allowed if: they include operable pedals, speed limit of 20 mph under power, motor rated at no more than 750 watts (1 hp), no more than 3 wheels, weight not more than 100 pounds, and not to be operated by persons under 16 years old” This was federally passed in 2002 federally.. You can go more than 20mph but it has to be with pedal assist (both human and motor operated), class 3
Its a great bike, I own a Delfast top 2.0. Its important to keep in mind that they did their record range at 15mph not at 50mph. Everyone should still get one if they can...
Great video, it would be so helpful if you could include the price in the title. That would help us navigate your videos based on which bikes are affordable. Thanks
Once you get this rolling it's ok, but the controller is only 60 amps. It's crap. I upgraded mine to an unlocked Sabvaton 72150. Make a night and day difference. Pulls the front wheel up
You shouldn't say that they don't need licensed. Here in Washington e-bikes are rated by how fast they go and how many watts they are, Class 1, 2, and 3. If it doesn't fit into these classes then it is considered a moped and must be licensed accordingly.
Except for one thing, the motor wattage far exceeds the limit's for an e bike in a lot of states to ride on public roads. Regardless of speed and pedals, the size of the motor made it a motorcycle. It will require running lights, a tag holder, turning signals, etc. and registration, license tag, and insurance. In addition the rider will have to pass a motorcycle written test, obtain a learning permit or pass driving test to get the motorcycle endorsement their drivers license. If you get caught without change to the bike, registration and insurance on the public streets in Ohio, you risk it being seized under section 59 of the Police Reform Act. No learning permit or endorsement, and expensive ticket. Some police jurisdiction are enforcing the law on e bikes that exceed the motor limits or speed and finding profit from the tickets and seizures.
This Bike is pretty nice. I have been Commuting on a Sur-Ron for over six months now. I wish it was a little bit bigger Bike is my only minor complaint also @6'3 and handsome 😄
What a Cool Bike! Inja! They are expensive but if you haven't got the full cost at hand get building one it works out extremely cheaper! BaconButties did it and that bike was undoubtedly better!
BaconButties abandoned his ebike build before he finished it. He screwed up his suspension and he sold it because he didn't feel safe on it. So it wasn't better than the Delfast. No comparison.
It looks like the seat is too low. Does not look like the peddles are comfortable to use. People say the acceleration is slow compared to other bikes. Not as nimble as other bikes and heavy as you stated. Great video but I think there are better options available.
Sur Ron X $4000 battery and controller upgrade $1300 10,000 watts mid-drive with Peddle kit add $80.00. No Thanks, that bike is so common everyone uses those frames for builds and they are horrible offroad with a hub motor. Get a Sur Ron with the upgrades for less and it will perform 10x better. Speaking from experience of using both frames. Sur Ron hands-down best bang for your buck. Great review though.
No a 72v 60a controller will not reach 6000w. 84v (72v) fully charged battery X 60 amps = 5040w. Let's say 81v battery X X 60 amps = 4860w peak but only for a couple of seconds. Mine with the saspecs never goes over 4500w peak.
This is cool. I was on the website and it states that it comes at 80 km (50 mph) default. I'm sure you can unlock it's potential to go faster. You should check into that. I would love to see how fast it can reach? Really cool video.
This is actually a common motor. It's 4/5 years old technology already. You can order from the manufacturer different types of copper windings, so you get more torque but less max speed, or more speed and less torque. The most you can do with this motor in the right conditions, the right controller and the right battery that fits it, is about 110kmh. So yeah, pretty insane for "just an e-bike"
im 350lbs and i ride a delfast top 3.0 easily. i am gonna start recording my trips using my insta360 x3. will start reviewing e bikes max weight loads. and i have a 7ft buddy thats 400lbs that is going to be testing e bike loads.
The State of Ohio requires registration on anything with a motor that is on the road, mopeds included. But they consider e-bikes that go no faster than 20MPH to be a bicycle and they don't require them to be registered. My bike tops out around 23 or 24mph so I don't have it registered. Ohio even registers golf carts, it's crazy. They just want to get as many 50 dollar registrations a year that they can get. My home state of CT didn't register anything that you didn't need a license to ride, like Mopeds that didn't go over 30mph. Now CT is trying to force registrations on Dirt bikes / mini bikes / quads. So that really cool bike in Ohio would require registration.
I picked up a laotie es18p top recorded speed via Strava 56.7 mph real world range on a full charge without eco mode 43 mi. 43ah battery, twin 2800w hub motors
I watched one of your previous videos about your jeep dying. Sounds to me like you have something in your fuel tank that occasionally blocks the fuel line. You’ll be driving for a bit and the object settles back in and dies. It is definitely a fuel tank, maybe a a pinhole in the line not properly keeping it prime. I knew about the tank block issue because my buddy’s ex girlfriend put condoms in his gas tank after a breakup and it did the same thing. Fuel filter seal can do that too
It's a lot to pay for a bike that has a broken power button right out of the box. That's the sort of thing that speaks to build quality and possible future problems.
From what I’ve read it’s between 3,000 w to possibly 6,000 w peak. Under powered for a 150 lb bike. Granted it would get my 145 lbs aren’t quickly enough. But a larger person probably not.
72 volt battery - should be faster than it is. main power 3000W (peak power might reach to 6000W). Torque: 182N.m Are you sure there wasn't a setting you can change to give it more torque?
Thanks to your channel I decided to pick up an electric bike that runs even on snow. No more gas prices for me. The bike was 2500 US, and I think it will pay its self off quickly by saving in gas. I can’t wait until everyone kicks the gas habit in the rear. Thanks for sharing your channel and giving people an alternative to fossil fuels.
Wow what a beast, I guna buy a wrecked e bike to restore next week may do a video as will need help from anyone who knows more than me, wish it wa alike this one tho
I have a delfast prime 2.0 for 8 mounth and rode it to work all winter and now in the prosess of replasing the battery. I guess it dosent like -30c all that much ya Canada!!
I want to disengage the pedals and move them to the same height . It is very uncomfortable for me to have the seat high enough to have the pedals fit my legs . Then I can’t touch the ground. I’m 5’6 and hate the pedals. Delfast said it’s easy to do. Just need to find someone locally .
I have the same sort of thing and got at best 45 miles out of it in the autumn time when it was around 15c, so probably a maximum range of 50 to 60 miles with my current config, if I changed to smoother narrower tyres with more rounded shape I could make get 25% more range ? so perhaps 75 miles, and thats with a battery that claims to be 40 amp hours. In reality you won't get the last 5 amp hours or so because the voltage sag is so huge that at around 66v the bike starts shutting off in assist level 1 and I have to take the side panel off to access the circuit breaker. I have no clue how this Delfast company could have gotten 200 miles.
@@TheInja I look forward to seeing your long range test if you are still going to do it ! your Delfast bike is way better than my DIY one, I have no fenders, mirrors, kickstand, turn signals, light controls. By your speed I guessed your bike is putting out 100 amps, my battery is limited to 50 amps. Battery is really important for these bikes, but a good battery costs over £1000 in our money, as much as an entire budget 1500w e-bike.
My friend great video thank you. I just want to say that I built same bike for £1200 in UK don't know why would you spend that much money on a bike without the joy of building it yourself. Thanks again 👍
For 6k that’s disappointing lol in terms of speed, but the milage may redeem it. But considering all these range tests are usually with the lowest mode(15 to 20mph) I’d bet the real world range would be around 70.
It’s not about speed it’s more on range here. Electric motorcycles have issues with range..This is quiet and efficient. Dirt bikes can’t go fast anyway and they’re noisy af. This seems like a dirt bike alternative
Not to be funny or anything but did you unlock the bike before you press the stop start button and forgive me if I'm doing too much just was thinking about it.
Controversial opinion but I don’t like it. For a cheaper price you can get a Ninja 400 that’s an actual sport motorcycle that tops out around 120mph not 50. 6600 is kinda ridiculous for a bike like that tbh
I got the prime 2.0 one like this but mine only goes 30 miles per hour I did not really use it much because I am only 5.7 or so tall my legs is not as long when I am on the seat my feet on tip toes I got big shoes with those my feet touches the ground I have to get use to it I do not have good balance I hope I can get use to it when it gets warmer
That's a joke that just because it has pedals there's no need for license and insurance. It's a motorcycle in most states. Ride it without insurance at your peril.
the bike looks nice but for 3000w 72v and selling it for 6600$$$ that's insane...i got a 15000w panasonic battery 72v 49 ah with sabvoton controller 200A stealth bomber clone from alibaba for 3500$ with max speed of 75 mph and range of 80 miles.don't get me wrong i like your bike it's just insanely expensive for the specs it has on the other hand i love the inflator lol
A stealth b52 copy -- looks a little loose round the battery area and lots of tech to break when you stack it. And if you dont come off - youre not trying hard enough.
Mines way faster , sounds like the hall effect sensor offset angle setting is incorrect ....should do close to sixty , with an unsettling amount of acceleration....
Check out HI Powered Cycles novelty electric bike called the Typhoon Pro. 26x4 rear tire 27.5 in front. It uses a Hub drive but placed in the bottom bracket as it is a mid drive bike. I think it is the very best you can buy.
im considering this or the segway x260. both beast but this looks elegant and futuristic and if the range is true? worth it! there are e bikes not that speced out that cost damn near that price! still look like a bike with a battery! great vid bruh, be safe always and happy new year to all!
I have the Top 2.0. Look up videos on the range. Delfast got that range by riding on the infield (flat surface) of an indoor banked bike oval. They did this riding a constant speed of 15mph, no more, with no wind, hills or other environmental instructions. I can say that it does have a good battery, but I have more complaints than noteworthy attributes for this bike. Basically I have rebuilt mine too the way that I envisioned this bike when I paid $6000 for it. The only thing original is the frame, forks, and battery. Now it's a beast with an 8000 watt (12000 peak) motor with an unlocked Sabvaton 72150 controller, bigger rear brake rotor with 4 piston hydraulic calipers, dropper seat post (a must have), new Honda motorcycle head light (can't see to the side with original, just a small rectangle in front of you). That car alarm is ridiculous, that's gone. The display doesn't connect to the battery in the menu to let you monitor battery condition. Now I'm ranting. I'll stop. Just saying, for 6k I felt like this bike was falsely advertised. I love my bike now, but put about another 2k into it. There is a group on Fakebook (unhappy delfast owners I think). Do research and decide wisely.
Best all around Bike under 2,000 NO licensee required , 6,600 Bit much, tnks guys , you know honesty reviews when you first get them is all fine and kool BUT down the road is another and id consider more REAL reviews, in durability, flexibility,,accessories,range on full charge ,speed,longest lasting batteries or battery, support and and obtaining parts, Love your reviews, Tnks n B Safe
What do the cops do if they catch you going that fast I've never seen somebody pull somebody over yet? But it's coming and some people will ruin it for the rest.
those mirrors suck, they cause too much wind drag and in high wind gusts can affect your steering, first time charging battery pack for ebike, leave on charger for 12 hours, even if it says charged, never charge them and then use them right away... always give 30 minutes or so after charging... first 10 cycles of battery pack are VERY important... DO NOT disrupt the charging for the first 10 cycles.... do not charge them directly after hard use, give them 30 minutes to cool down... first 10 cycles you MUST fully charge all the way... after the 10 cycles you can charge as you please... 2 wheel drive... is awesome..... been riding a custom built one for over 10 years and several models... just remember, sometimes custom built means custom pain in the arse....
I heard something similar that it takes a few cycles to get it up to full capacity, never knew that when I got my first batteries. Didn't know you had to go to 100% more than the first time though ( to balance the cells ). This all runs contrary to what most people say which is stay within 20% to 80%.
Also a few things, by double clicking the M on the handle bars you can access the settings and change the settings for the battery display, it does climb hills fairly well but not steep ones, it hits 55 mph for lighter riders and be wary of the back bolts that hold the tire, they like to come loose during rides.. add some loctite. These are specs coming from the top 2.0 version though.
Yep, loctite on the rear nuts is a good idea. Mine came loose too. I recently cranked them really tight with large wrenches. Went on a few rides since. Going to check them again.
Sad for a $7,000 bike. Likely the Top 3.0 use more cheaper made in China parts.
My bike is capable of 28mph but I set it for 20. I can't do it by myself, but I'm trying to delay the day when too many people complain about "bicycles" going faster than legal, and they pass laws to register and license ebikes. Also, the jerks tearing up the hiking trails I like to ride don't seem to understand that there aren't any "No Karens" signs at the forest preserve, so don't annoy the Karens or they'll complain and we'll all get kicked off the trails...!
ALL GOOD POINTS!! SO BE COOL, PEOPLE!!!
@@allenmcdaniel1470 15 mph on foot/bike paths is usually the law, and always considerate, esp. when sharing the trail with pedestrians.
Which is why it’s best to play nice with people. If you’re forced to ride on the sidewalk then you have to be accommodating and move over for people. Basically more considerate. When I see people on trails or if it’s packed with people I make it a point to slow down. I prefer slow and controller movements than speeding.
Or stopping at stop signs to show that you’re no threat and that you don’t ride recklessly. You’d have to be doubly smart and know how to work and handle your speeds since you ride much slower than traffic.
My top speed is 30mph BUTi increased it’s torque so I can get to 30 much quicker. The increased torque allows me to move from dead much easier and allows me to move quicker at lights and stop signs.
Those bikes are more sustainable than trains. Maybe we do need to embrace it.
here comes the fun police
It is a nice bike , my only issue is with it is company's like Delfast and what they do. Basically this bike is nothing more than a generic china E bike you have been able to get on china websites for over 7 years at this point and can be bought for around $2500 with the exact same spec forks battery belt drive tires basically controller the exact same bike, and here is my issue is that company's like Delfast buy these china bikes in bulk often for even cheaper, then stick brand stickers on it and claim they made it and then sell it for 3 or 4 times the price
I absolutely agree. But they are also cutting out a lot of the hassle of importing, customs fees, etc. that 95% of consumers don't know how to do or wouldn't want to figure out.
Agreed, though at this configuration (20S15P), you'd really have to go for the el cheapo parts to hit $2500 though. A frame that came with good warranty and decent welding and powder coating set me back 600 euros at Vector Ebike in Europe, and a reliable controller that would be able to push that battery would be a cool 400 euros. With 4 euros a piece for decent cells, my virtual voice slave converted that to exactly $2500 -- with no hub motor, front or rear suspension, saddle, wheels, brakes, ...
That’s basic business…..they’re doing the same thing that every other business is doing in the USA…..
@@DeAndre1970 Well no it is not basic business, most company's design or make their own product and then sell it at a reasonable profit or they import and then sell at a reasonable profit, and they try to balance retail price to be fair to the customer and retain a decent profit margin because most decent company's are smart enough to know that if you blatantly over charge a customer for a product they will eventually find out and word will get around , company's like this one in the video and as you pointed out there are a few, will import a cheap generic product from china brand it then claim they made it then claim its special in some way ( like the GB record thing ) and then massively mark it up to see what suckers they can catch and they catch many that think they are buying something american made or special when in reality they are simply being over charged.
As i pointed out this exact bike is around $3200 individual or as low as $2500 for bulk purchases of 20 units or more, and a company like this would bulk order so they basically got it for $2500 but selling for $6600 to give the impression of a premium product, that's around a 167% mark up and even factoring in import costs that is simply an obscene price.
As the saying goes just because you can does not mean you should and just because others do does not mean you should also
Wow, learn to spell and speak English. Sad.
Inja back at in 2022! Hope you and the Mrs. had a great holiday and a Happy New Year! Looking forward to all the new vids in the coming year!
Can't wait to get back in it with you guys! 💯
Baby Inja coming in 2 weeks! 😵
@@TheInja like 👶 Inja? Inja Jr.? Congrats! Don Inja, we are honored and grateful to be privy to this news. May your first child be a masculine child!
@@theprodigalstranger5259 haha I sure hope he will be! Still got the nervous energy, but we'll figure it out as we go. He's going to be spending most of his time listening to wrenches in the garage haha
Inja jr= the ninja
Oh cool! I have their dealer paperwork to send in today. We'll be selling these right next to our current E-Enduro line up. I've also applied to Guinness to challenge their distance record. Have some fun with it. Don't slam a curb down 35+ or you'll blow out the wheel. Got a rim and spokes coming to fix it.
If you get pulled over it you would be lucky if all they ask you is to move to the bike lane. It's till illegal because it's over 750w and anything over that regardless of pedals is suppose to be registered.
This good sir is now one of my dream toys. Wow this is absolutely revolutionary. Great video and now I am a subscriber!! Thanks again for the information!!
did he show what it's like on pedal assist? and why is it segregated from regular power, unlike other ebikes??
You can get 8000w ones from China for 2500-3000$. Front rear motors and way faster than that one he has.
Surron 260x is also cheaper than this. The only thing this one has that’s better is battery life probably. I don’t like the rubber chain. I believe that will fail easily
And 6 months from now your 10,000 dollar bike will be obsolete
@@twiztid83222 can you give an example of the cheap 2500 china ones?
I own a delfast 3.0. U left alot about the bike. This ebike has its own GPS tracking system on the bike. I love the weight of the bike.
weve built these things up ourselves with parts of ebay ,but used 84 volt nominal batteries ,and unlocked sabvoton controllers running 400 to 500 phase amps ,
these things can hit 80 to 90 kms per hour easy ,but the key is getting the schlumf drive crankset, can actually pedal the bike fast then. im pretty sure the controller they supply with this one isnt pc programable though.
The Delfast is 84 V too, when you charge it all the way up. You are right, it doesn't have a programmable controller. Where can I get a Schlumf Drive that doesn't break the bank?😀
I got that same frame, but whit cheaper parts. 2.5kw continues power, 52v 30ah lfp-battery and good enough suspension and brakes. It does 35mp, 60m range and costs was 1700$. I will build a bigger battery pack and put better brakes, but it has been good for everyday rides even at winter. I ride whit it to work every day, becouse I don't have a car.
Where are u from and u have any pics?
@@slimdunkin117 I from finland, and I have done few videos in Conepyora Comppany channel.
Would love to build one myself but have literally 0 knowledge ...
@@crolombiano4226 I started with zero knowledge but thanks to yt and $1200 I was able to build an electric 60v moped that did 50mph at 3000w. But I'm a light guy at 5'9 and 130lbs
fr I hate to admit it I've been looking on allababa for one of these🤪
Awesome ebike! I build these ebikes with fattires and build custom battery packs. I'm 6'2" and have the front fork at 45 psi and put on a 240mm rear shock and it rides a lot smoother. Great bikes for sure.
We’re are you based mate
@@trevormcdonald385 Hi Miguel I'm in Florida and sell them from a base price of $3500 48v to $4500 72v and can custom build.
Would love to see a range test video!
In the UK, for road use, it is classed exactly as a petrol motorcycle, requiring registration, insurance, riders licence. Big penalties for those without.
Don't put plates on it and cover your face and you're fine they can't fine you if they don't know who you are
How could it be legal in California with a 3000W motor? The limit is 750W for all E-bikes. I guess that makes this a motorcycle so you would need license and insurance.
I mean teechhhhhhnicalllyyyyyyyy 🤷🏽♀️
Please don't tell the cops
If a guy with a dick can self identify as a woman then Inja can identify his bike as whatever he wants.
Right now it depends on the area..some police departments don’t care, others will tell you to get it registered as a moped
Good review.
But for a base price of 7k you'd really have to be wealthy or frivolous with your money to spend that on an ebike. You could buy a sick 3k dollar ebike like a v2 2wD Grizzly and buy 2 more batteries for it, buy a case or basket for them and get crazier range like this and have tons left over to buy a used car or another backup bike.
Not wealthy 7k ain’t much
@@je7647 naw just stupid AF 🙄
In California you are supposed to register any thing larger than 750 watts or faster than 28mph , but it's hard for the cops to enforce . If they even know the law .
Great review, I think laws in time are going to catch up with what's classified as an e-bike vs a "e-bike" that has pedals on it and goes 50+ mph. I can only imagine the troubles one could get into if they collide with another object (human, bicyclist, car) with no registration or insurance.
These are the golden days 🙈😆
I missed it brother 😪
In Europe this would be classified as a motorbike, but people do mod the 250W 25kph e-bike. They can get dangerous as mtbs though.
“E-Bikes now will be allowed if: they include operable pedals, speed limit of 20 mph under power, motor rated at no more than 750 watts (1 hp), no more than 3 wheels, weight not more than 100 pounds, and not to be operated by persons under 16 years old”
This was federally passed in 2002 federally..
You can go more than 20mph but it has to be with pedal assist (both human and motor operated), class 3
Yea because California sucks and noone is free
Its a great bike, I own a Delfast top 2.0. Its important to keep in mind that they did their record range at 15mph not at 50mph. Everyone should still get one if they can...
They lie and overcharge for a low torque "dirtbike" . Say ur stupid without saying it 👀😂🤣🤭
Great video, it would be so helpful if you could include the price in the title. That would help us navigate your videos based on which bikes are affordable. Thanks
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Top speed is one thing climbing a long steep hill is way more important especially for a hub motor
For sure.
Once you get this rolling it's ok, but the controller is only 60 amps. It's crap. I upgraded mine to an unlocked Sabvaton 72150. Make a night and day difference. Pulls the front wheel up
@@my1stvmax what winding is this hub motor ?
T3
You have to do some similar chances with a "extreme Bull k6"
its porbably a pain in the ass trying to pedal this beast lmao.
and the noise he makes near the end is hilarious
Great bike. Great channel.
Thanks brother!
You shouldn't say that they don't need licensed. Here in Washington e-bikes are rated by how fast they go and how many watts they are, Class 1, 2, and 3. If it doesn't fit into these classes then it is considered a moped and must be licensed accordingly.
Except for one thing, the motor wattage far exceeds the limit's for an e bike in a lot of states to ride on public roads. Regardless of speed and pedals, the size of the motor made it a motorcycle. It will require running lights, a tag holder, turning signals, etc. and registration, license tag, and insurance. In addition the rider will have to pass a motorcycle written test, obtain a learning permit or pass driving test to get the motorcycle endorsement their drivers license. If you get caught without change to the bike, registration and insurance on the public streets in Ohio, you risk it being seized under section 59 of the Police Reform Act. No learning permit or endorsement, and expensive ticket. Some police jurisdiction are enforcing the law on e bikes that exceed the motor limits or speed and finding profit from the tickets and seizures.
At first I was like it looks ugly but when you’re riding it, it does look like a dirt bike and badass dang
At that price the start button should work. Crazy.
I totally agree.
In TX, if you motorize your bicycle it must be registered/inspected but it costs like $5.
I get mine sometime in February 🤞🏻
Cool looking bike, has bit of the old bmx look
This Bike is pretty nice. I have been Commuting on a Sur-Ron for over six months now. I wish it was a little bit bigger Bike is my only minor complaint also @6'3 and handsome 😄
Hahaha
6k ?and the on off switch doesn't work? I don't know inja that might be too much
hahaha I totally feel you on that.
You can build better tho for about $3k
do it
is it better than a suron or a segway x260 ?
What a Cool Bike! Inja! They are expensive but if you haven't got the full cost at hand get building one it works out extremely cheaper! BaconButties did it and that bike was undoubtedly better!
BaconButties abandoned his ebike build before he finished it. He screwed up his suspension and he sold it because he didn't feel safe on it. So it wasn't better than the Delfast. No comparison.
now, that can handle a pothole !
Great new year to you and the crew and the family, man !
Thanks, Pat!
This bike has 19 inch motorcycle tires. They make the ride very nice.
It looks like the seat is too low. Does not look like the peddles are comfortable to use. People say the acceleration is slow compared to other bikes. Not as nimble as other bikes and heavy as you stated. Great video but I think there are better options available.
Sur Ron X $4000 battery and controller upgrade $1300 10,000 watts mid-drive with Peddle kit add $80.00. No Thanks, that bike is so common everyone uses those frames for builds and they are horrible offroad with a hub motor. Get a Sur Ron with the upgrades for less and it will perform 10x better. Speaking from experience of using both frames. Sur Ron hands-down best bang for your buck. Great review though.
@farmer Fpv but the Sur Ron doesn’t have peddles correct ? How does it pass for an ebike?
You can get pedals for Sur Ron. I've checked into it when I was deciding on what bike to buy.
No a 72v 60a controller will not reach 6000w.
84v (72v) fully charged battery X 60 amps = 5040w.
Let's say 81v battery X X 60 amps = 4860w peak but only for a couple of seconds.
Mine with the saspecs never goes over 4500w peak.
is it only a 60amp max controller ?
Here in Pennsylvania that is not considered a bicycle and the good ol' boys in blue will most certainly cite you for having it on the street.
govt doesn't get their cut, can't have that...
This is cool. I was on the website and it states that it comes at 80 km (50 mph) default. I'm sure you can unlock it's potential to go faster. You should check into that. I would love to see how fast it can reach? Really cool video.
This is actually a common motor. It's 4/5 years old technology already. You can order from the manufacturer different types of copper windings, so you get more torque but less max speed, or more speed and less torque. The most you can do with this motor in the right conditions, the right controller and the right battery that fits it, is about 110kmh. So yeah, pretty insane for "just an e-bike"
@@cortexico233 Dude, thank you so much for that info. Now, I'm definitely getting this ebike. You ROCK 🎸 💪, bro. Have a great and awesome day.
Of course you always trade range for speed. If you have a meter on your display, you can see how fast high speeds drain the battery.
im 350lbs and i ride a delfast top 3.0 easily. i am gonna start recording my trips using my insta360 x3. will start reviewing e bikes max weight loads. and i have a 7ft buddy thats 400lbs that is going to be testing e bike loads.
The State of Ohio requires registration on anything with a motor that is on the road, mopeds included. But they consider e-bikes that go no faster than 20MPH to be a bicycle and they don't require them to be registered. My bike tops out around 23 or 24mph so I don't have it registered. Ohio even registers golf carts, it's crazy. They just want to get as many 50 dollar registrations a year that they can get. My home state of CT didn't register anything that you didn't need a license to ride, like Mopeds that didn't go over 30mph. Now CT is trying to force registrations on Dirt bikes / mini bikes / quads. So that really cool bike in Ohio would require registration.
I picked up a laotie es18p top recorded speed via Strava 56.7 mph real world range on a full charge without eco mode 43 mi. 43ah battery, twin 2800w hub motors
I watched one of your previous videos about your jeep dying. Sounds to me like you have something in your fuel tank that occasionally blocks the fuel line. You’ll be driving for a bit and the object settles back in and dies. It is definitely a fuel tank, maybe a a pinhole in the line not properly keeping it prime. I knew about the tank block issue because my buddy’s ex girlfriend put condoms in his gas tank after a breakup and it did the same thing. Fuel filter seal can do that too
Why I would never have a hub drive e-bike. You can’t adjust the gearing. And they get super hot.
e bikes are not rated by the seat, but but the class a,b,c, and size of motor
Yeah, I know that, I just wasn't sure if there is a class of seats for bicycles/motorcycles
It's a lot to pay for a bike that has a broken power button right out of the box. That's the sort of thing that speaks to build quality and possible future problems.
From what I’ve read it’s between 3,000 w to possibly 6,000 w peak. Under powered for a 150 lb bike. Granted it would get my 145 lbs aren’t quickly enough. But a larger person probably not.
72 volt battery - should be faster than it is. main power 3000W (peak power might reach to 6000W). Torque: 182N.m Are you sure there wasn't a setting you can change to give it more torque?
Hi from which manufacturer is the front mudguard Thank you?
Does appear to be a frame I’m familiar with? Great video glad to see inja & the lord back.
Thanks to your channel I decided to pick up an electric bike that runs even on snow. No more gas prices for me. The bike was 2500 US, and I think it will pay its self off quickly by saving in gas. I can’t wait until everyone kicks the gas habit in the rear. Thanks for sharing your channel and giving people an alternative to fossil fuels.
just curious what bike you went with, i'm in Michigan where there's lots of snow
Ever notice these video misqoute prices by ALOT? Fantik aircompressor $129 not "$60"
SO SHWEEEETTT...much love Tee with LIONS NAMED LEO.[the music worldwide}
oooweee fun...almost like HPC's..
Time to challenge the Suron!
Wow what a beast, I guna buy a wrecked e bike to restore next week may do a video as will need help from anyone who knows more than me, wish it wa alike this one tho
I have a delfast prime 2.0 for 8 mounth and rode it to work all winter and now in the prosess of replasing the battery.
I guess it dosent like -30c all that much ya Canada!!
I want to disengage the pedals and move them to the same height . It is very uncomfortable for me to have the seat high enough to have the pedals fit my legs . Then I can’t touch the ground. I’m 5’6 and hate the pedals. Delfast said it’s easy to do. Just need to find someone locally .
I have the same sort of thing and got at best 45 miles out of it in the autumn time when it was around 15c, so probably a maximum range of 50 to 60 miles with my current config, if I changed to smoother narrower tyres with more rounded shape I could make get 25% more range ? so perhaps 75 miles, and thats with a battery that claims to be 40 amp hours. In reality you won't get the last 5 amp hours or so because the voltage sag is so huge that at around 66v the bike starts shutting off in assist level 1 and I have to take the side panel off to access the circuit breaker. I have no clue how this Delfast company could have gotten 200 miles.
They tested it at like 15mph is how haha
@@TheInja I look forward to seeing your long range test if you are still going to do it ! your Delfast bike is way better than my DIY one, I have no fenders, mirrors, kickstand, turn signals, light controls. By your speed I guessed your bike is putting out 100 amps, my battery is limited to 50 amps. Battery is really important for these bikes, but a good battery costs over £1000 in our money, as much as an entire budget 1500w e-bike.
Bettery battery
You say hassle but it’s very easy and not hard to do at all the manufacturers pay for import fees and customs
Have you ever done it? (Legally?)
Could you do a video on how you got started on your channel? purchasing all of these E-bikes can definitely get expensive.
just go watch my channel! You'll see where it took off and what worked/what didn't.
I'm jealous Inja!!!
Surron with pedal kit is cheaper also can get the same bike from Alibaba for 2-3k easy. Those seats are are dumb and dont sit right
Yes, i commented that before i saw your comment. You can get em for even less if bought in bulk.
My mom taught me when u buy E-Tonics Fully charge it for a 💯 percent charge and the E-Trionit will last much longer
My friend great video thank you.
I just want to say that I built same bike for £1200 in UK don't know why would you spend that much money on a bike without the joy of building it yourself.
Thanks again 👍
Same specs as this one?
Great video, fantastic bike,I ride the Mustache e-bike Friday 27 2019 Bosch motor and battery, try a Mustache e-bikes if you can,thanks!
For 6k that’s disappointing lol in terms of speed, but the milage may redeem it. But considering all these range tests are usually with the lowest mode(15 to 20mph) I’d bet the real world range would be around 70.
Agreed. Will be testing in the next few days!
It’s not about speed it’s more on range here. Electric motorcycles have issues with range..This is quiet and efficient. Dirt bikes can’t go fast anyway and they’re noisy af. This seems like a dirt bike alternative
@@slimdunkin117 then we will have to see what Kind of range he would get just riding it normally
@@TheInja nice
U are wrong about that. I went 40 miles per hour and got 150 miles out of the bike. Do all research.
It's a Apt. stairs winner work out eh!
That thing looks cool I want to hook it up with a whole bunch of RGBLED lights
This or the CAB eagle....im torn.
I’m not going to even cap this bike is so cool ! 🔥🔥🔥
thats a beast of a bike 150 pounds !!
6,600 "and I know that sounds like a little bit of money". No sir, that sounds like A LOT of money for an eBike!
Agreed!
@@TheInja but sooooo cool!
Not to be funny or anything but did you unlock the bike before you press the stop start button and forgive me if I'm doing too much just was thinking about it.
Controversial opinion but I don’t like it. For a cheaper price you can get a Ninja 400 that’s an actual sport motorcycle that tops out around 120mph not 50. 6600 is kinda ridiculous for a bike like that tbh
Those mirrors though 😳
Can you review a bike called Truvor and also Suru cycles.
I got the prime 2.0 one like this but mine only goes 30 miles per hour I did not really use it much because I am only 5.7 or so tall my legs is not as long when I am on the seat my feet on tip toes I got big shoes with those my feet touches the ground I have to get use to it I do not have good balance I hope I can get use to it when it gets warmer
That thin swing arm makes me a little nervous but if it's tried a true than I guess it's just my anxiety
That's a joke that just because it has pedals there's no need for license and insurance. It's a motorcycle in most states. Ride it without insurance at your peril.
(*don't tell the police)
the bike looks nice but for 3000w 72v and selling it for 6600$$$ that's insane...i got a 15000w panasonic battery 72v 49 ah with sabvoton controller 200A stealth bomber clone from alibaba for 3500$ with max speed of 75 mph and range of 80 miles.don't get me wrong i like your bike it's just insanely expensive for the specs it has on the other hand i love the inflator lol
A stealth b52 copy -- looks a little loose round the battery area and lots of tech to break when you stack it. And if you dont come off - youre not trying hard enough.
NICE BIKE DUDE THATS DOPE AS HELL BRO.
this is... EXACTLY WHAT I WANT
Mines way faster , sounds like the hall effect sensor offset angle setting is incorrect ....should do close to sixty , with an unsettling amount of acceleration....
Check out HI Powered Cycles novelty electric bike called the Typhoon Pro. 26x4 rear tire 27.5 in front. It uses a Hub drive but placed in the bottom bracket as it is a mid drive
bike. I think it is the very best you can buy.
im considering this or the segway x260. both beast but this looks elegant and futuristic and if the range is true? worth it! there are e bikes not that speced out that cost damn near that price! still look like a bike with a battery! great vid bruh, be safe always and happy new year to all!
I have the Top 2.0. Look up videos on the range. Delfast got that range by riding on the infield (flat surface) of an indoor banked bike oval. They did this riding a constant speed of 15mph, no more, with no wind, hills or other environmental instructions. I can say that it does have a good battery, but I have more complaints than noteworthy attributes for this bike. Basically I have rebuilt mine too the way that I envisioned this bike when I paid $6000 for it. The only thing original is the frame, forks, and battery. Now it's a beast with an 8000 watt (12000 peak) motor with an unlocked Sabvaton 72150 controller, bigger rear brake rotor with 4 piston hydraulic calipers, dropper seat post (a must have), new Honda motorcycle head light (can't see to the side with original, just a small rectangle in front of you). That car alarm is ridiculous, that's gone. The display doesn't connect to the battery in the menu to let you monitor battery condition. Now I'm ranting. I'll stop. Just saying, for 6k I felt like this bike was falsely advertised. I love my bike now, but put about another 2k into it. There is a group on Fakebook (unhappy delfast owners I think). Do research and decide wisely.
Should do another euc video when the kingsong s20 comes out. It's going to be the most epic euc ever
Cool compressor
Good vids mate
Needs full rear fender
Best all around Bike under 2,000 NO licensee required , 6,600 Bit much, tnks guys , you know honesty reviews when you first get them is all fine and kool BUT down the road is another and id consider more REAL reviews, in durability, flexibility,,accessories,range on full charge ,speed,longest lasting batteries or battery, support and and obtaining parts, Love your reviews, Tnks n B Safe
Nice bike, but at $6600 it's a hard pass. The Chinese are laughing at the amounts we are paying for ebikes in general.
Great video for 2022
What do the cops do if they catch you going that fast I've never seen somebody pull somebody over yet? But it's coming and some people will ruin it for the rest.
,haha! $6,600 and the start stop button comes faulty.
Please 🙏 unboxing k5 3000w ebick
those mirrors suck, they cause too much wind drag and in high wind gusts can affect your steering, first time charging battery pack for ebike, leave on charger for 12 hours, even if it says charged, never charge them and then use them right away... always give 30 minutes or so after charging... first 10 cycles of battery pack are VERY important... DO NOT disrupt the charging for the first 10 cycles.... do not charge them directly after hard use, give them 30 minutes to cool down... first 10 cycles you MUST fully charge all the way... after the 10 cycles you can charge as you please... 2 wheel drive... is awesome..... been riding a custom built one for over 10 years and several models... just remember, sometimes custom built means custom pain in the arse....
I heard something similar that it takes a few cycles to get it up to full capacity, never knew that when I got my first batteries. Didn't know you had to go to 100% more than the first time though ( to balance the cells ). This all runs contrary to what most people say which is stay within 20% to 80%.