This isn't just a review. For those of us that bought this bike and felt like they were going crazy only getting 40 miles out of charge. This video adds sanity to the crazy 200 mile range. 100% agree with everything you said. It's a fun bike, but they need to change their range claims. 15mph = 200miles / 30mph = 60miles / 50mph = 30miles is more realistic.
Also keep in mind that batteries are graded. Like usually vape batteries are like a B+ or abouts. The high grade A+ batteries are usually sent to companies with high end product’s… like a battery pack for a cordless Dyson vacuum or something. Obviously they used high end batteries (and other components) when this ebike broke the world record. But for $6600 is just insane and just using the world record as a cash grab. The one thing I like about this is the bike has good size… I’m 6’3 205/lbs and I’m having a hard time finding a bike that fits my frame
@@bobbyspain905 Then they should obviously state that to consumers who are oblivious to things that are NOT obvious to people who don't understand such things... Don't ya think, Mr. S? It really comes back to total disclosure. To being, you know, honest. People who have no clue how things work simply hear what the producers of the thing says the thing does. They rely on these producers to inform them, educate them. In a dishonest world, this does not happen. Fortunately, we who are oblivious have the Inja to make what is not obvious, obvious.
Yeah I see no problem with advertising range at a certain speed. We all know that mpg ratings for highway are done at 55mph and something similar should be stated for ebike range.
It’s like they have a little 100lb Asian who tests all the bikes and he pedals his little ass off as hard as he can that’s how they get these wild numbers
NO!!!! Here’s how they do it. They have that 100lb Asian kid WALK the bike up Mount Everest and ride down then use Ebike power just to where the mountain levels off the. Ride like 1/2 mile, walk bike up the mountain again COAST DOWN and keep repeating till he reaches 200 miles!! Lolololololol
Thanks for sharing your real world test of the Delfast! I almost purchased a Delfast yesterday but wanted more real world test from people others. Enjoy your videos! Please Keep the videos coming!
Thanks for sharing your real world view of the delfast 3.0. I almost purchased one yesterday but had not seen any reviews like yours until today. Please keep the videos coming. Really enjoy your videos!
Yes and no. Delfast motor and battery are top end. I forget the motor brand but i looked into before it was $2,200 just for the rear wheel and than to get the same battery they have is another $2,500. Than there is the belt drive thats not cheap
@@miguel360kmc Well delfast uses qs 205 that costs about 500 dollars and if you use lifepo4 battery it could cost about 1000 dollars if you do it yourself and frame with suspension is about 1000 dollars and 14kw sabvoton 72200 controller is 300 dollars so total of about 2800 dollars.
Wish I would have seen this before I bought mine. A modded surron that costs 7k has a 75 mile range at 50 mph. If I drive my delfast at 35 mph I charge after 18 miles because I get to like 40% battery. Cool bike but if I want range AND speed I'd go with a modded sur ron.
Your range sounds similar to a Stock Sur Ron I just setup my BAC4000 with a 72v38ah battery. Life is good Range far exceeds the Delfast 3.0 in your case Even when hitting 40-60 mph at 7000w
@@quirogacris87 I could probably lower my bike to 5000w-6000w and easily achieve 40+ miles at that speed Go check the 72v range test videos Someone did 35 miles on the highway and reached a 55mph average so he was going even faster (I think he tested a 32ah battery which is actually a 34ah battery) in that case mine would do better since it’s a 38ah, search “72v dyno and range test”
What modded surron nets you a 75 mile range doing average of 50mph, And in what conditions? Of course you can't always hit 50, Especially towards the end of the battery capacity. And terrain, weight, Temp, Voltage pull etc etc always play a part in range..
Ima make an early guess of probably like 50-60 miles. Let's see how this turns out... 40 huh... Well, it's not like I didnt expect a low number. I mean at the end of the day I'm not disappointed, I'm just well aware of how these range estimates work, but you still get a like. I mean you're setting up the Ducati to have potentially 200 miles and that has a battery pack the size of the Scamborgini. There's no way this would have that at full blast.
Guiness, who run the records book, started out in the UK where the legal max speed for an ebike is 15.5mph, the same speed as the entirety of Europe (25kmh). So a speed based on the maximum legal for a vehicle to be classed as EPAC (the ebike class, rather than the moped class) is entirely fair and reasonable. Under the classification of the country where they are based, and all of Europe, a vehicle is only truly an ebike if it has a max motor power of 250w, has no throttle that eliminates the need for pedalling to reach speed, and has a max speed of 25kmh / 15.5mph. Anything above that is a electric moped, or electric motorcycle not an ebike. Many states in the US have a legal speed limit of 20mph for an ebike to not need a moped/motorcycle license and registration, tax and vehicle insurance.
I'm skeptical that they even got 200 miles at 15mph if it only gets 40 miles at 30 to 50 mph, only way I can think is maybe they used non standard wheels / tyres, indoors therefore no wind, temperature at 25C. Super smooth surface, I know they used a velodrome.
@@ash0787 I don't think you appreciate just how much of a brick wall air resistance really is. The aerodynamic drag force increases with the square of the velocity, so if you double your speed you will burn 4 times the energy to push air over the same distance. So getting a little over 4 times the range at 15mph vs 30-50mph is perfectly reasonable. Not that it really matters though. Any decent cyclist could comfortably maintain such a relaxed speed on flat terrain all day with no electric assist. Range estimates for e-bikes just gets really dumb since real world results are extremely influenced by local conditions and riding styles.
That's a lot of money, you'd think it would have a lot more power. I paid 3.000 dollar's for my hyper scorpion and it gets up to 30 miles per hour and about 30 miles range.
I did a 18mile commute roundtrip the other day on the Delfast 3.0 and avg 20-25mph started at 100% when i finishd my battery was at 96% not sure how good or bad that is for others but I was def satisfied with that. I'm in Chicago, outside temps was 50, this weekend suppose to be high 70 so I'm going to do another run see what i can get
Bike companies NEED to do max speed max payload ranges tests. So if someone is lighter or rides slower they can expect MORE instead of expecting LESS with how they’re doing it now
True, but if you're buying a bike with a speed like this you're going to top it out. People that want to bike just for getting from a to b would spend less and get a more commuter friendly bike that is limited to normal class 1 or 2 speeds
Excellent review & many buyers I'm sure is mad for that very high cost & see it's not worth 1/4 the price plus not even meeting half it's range at full blast! SMH! 🤦
Lol nice math, 15 mph =200 miles, 50!!mph =100 miles, is that what you think it should be? No vehicle in the history of the world meets the range claims EVER, batterie powered vehicles are even worse, the voltage drop from 25% to 50% throttle doesn't double, it might quadruple,and people dropping 7k on a bike without doing a little research are fucking idiots, so is this guy taking an ELECTRIC PEDAL ASSISTED BICYCLE, which is a BICYCLE that you PEDAL effortlessly because of PEDAL ASSIST, and thinking it's a "dirt bike ". the manufacturer states all over the internet the record was achieved at 15mph ,but let's disregard that and ask for 100 miles at full throttle. Some people shouldn't be allowed to post on the internet
Great video, it would be cool to see a comparison video with more affordable alternatives that also offer pedal assist mode, unlike the Surron and Onxy.
I saw someone do a stress test on a juiced hyper scrambler and he managed 82 miles with the bike going around 25mph with peddling. He showed his route with both uphills and flat areas. To give it a more real world test.
I live in city of Kiev, where this test was taking place. It actually was on oval track for bicycles on constant speed with a few stops. And many companies in Ukraine make the same bike, for far less price tag (if you wonder, delfast is not an original producer of these bikes, the frame design and the concept bike is public on internet for many years by some engineer from Russia). These bikes are heavily overpriced
but if thats the case then this is still the most range you can get out of any ebike why? cause with all things being equal and everyone would ride their ebike to its max power consumption then all those range claims by other manufacturers with less numbers would even go less than they claimed. if delfast can realistically only go for about 40 mi in 50 mph then the other ebikes can only go for like 10-20miles tops on max speed. In that case, this bike still gives you the longest range by ratio compared to almost all ebikes. but i truly appreciate the very honest review.
If that little mole hill was 1 foot longer you wouldn't have made it. I think trail riding for too long might burn that weak-ass hub motor up in short order. That bike looks like a dirt bike but is really intended for city commuting. Nice honest review!!
Hi Inja! Excited that you dig the power and throttle on the Top 3.0 bike, and it brought you so much fun! In regard to your comments on range, you are correct in that different riding and driving conditions effect ebike range. The 200-mile range claim was proven in 2017 by Delfast’s achievement of the World Guinness Record. This past June 2022, we decided to retest the bike and (in ideal conditions) and reached 232 miles on a single charge. Our record-breaking range performance of 200 miles was set under optimum conditions: temperature was 77 degrees Fahrenheit, on a smooth track, with an experienced rider focused on keeping the speed and pedal ratio in balance for maximum range. No doubt, that range of an e-bike in everyday use is not about ideal conditions, since it can be affected by several factors. Battery capacity, power output, speed of travel, weight of cargo, amount of pedal assist used, incline or decline, conditions and type of terrain, as well as temperature and other weather-related factors. All of these literally affect the e-bike performance in that or another way. And let's not forget each e-bike owner's personal riding style. Sometimes people accelerate their bikes in such a way, that a few minutes later only half of the battery is left :) To answer all the questions regarding range, we’ve put some educational information about it on Delfast’s website: us.delfastbikes.com/delfast-is-the-worlds-longest-range-ebike. Also, we are available 24/7 at bikes@delfastbikes.com or 925.384.2010 and we will gladly share all the details about e-bike performance to help you and all riders figure out how to maximize their bike range.
We sell similar, but we list it at 60+miles with mixed use. Full throttle on 8kw 72v I've personally tested, 25miles full throttle and easily 60+ miles real riding
@@m_xx989 basically, you can add better forks, rear shock, name brand battery etc. They basically come with the same stuff as the Delfast, no mirrors. I think the fully decked out with quick charger is less than $6k
Yes I agree it should be standardized and transparent using real world conditions based off of speeds that item in question can actually do as well as disclosing the weight of the rider who performed the test.
My ebike is 72v (84v fully charged). I knew damned well you would be hard pressed to get 40 miles range riding hard like that. My commute to work is 10 mile round trip and if I keep in mode 2 at about 22 mph I recharge (at work) at 40 miles. I could probably eke that out to 50 miles but you have to be real careful how many beans you give it off the line as it will simply shut down if I try and draw too many amps at that low a charge. My battery is a 20s 7p - 18650's
We are getting the Watt Wagons Super Charged X-Tour later this Spring. 200 miles per charge and I will personally be testing this claim by riding it from Las Vegas to LA and back. I can't put a link in here, but they're on our website under the Street Legal motorcycles. With the specs it seemed the more appropriate category.
As a lot said, appreciate the real world ride review, makes sense given the size battery the Delfast has (If I remember it was a 72V 20amp hour). I went with a Huck Stinger3000 at $6k, at the time it was the biggest battery I saw (72V 50amp hour) I got almost 80 miles on it when I "Real world tested it mix between road and bike lanes" which was a blast, but those last 15 miles was on low battery the whole time giving me range anxiety but still went strong and pushing 45mph at the last 5 miles. Now I saw online custom batteries for it (72V 75amp hour). My hope is they develop a better battery/power source sometime in my prime time. These bikes are a real blast, but damn they are expensive, but I'm really thankful I was able to get one and enjoy it for a 50 mile run every once in awhile because I have family and job that occupies most of my day so to squeeze out 2 hours of open road what else can a guy ask for.
I mean it does take a lot more energy to go faster. I have a Tesla P85 from 2013. I have only really range tested it in the cold and there's a big difference between going say 55 and 70. At a steady cruise doing 55 over the course of 15 miles I averaged about 3.8 miles per kilowatt. If I could keep that up that would be 292 mi which would be above the normal standard range. I did do it with the heat and seat heater off just to maximize it, but even with them I get about 3.2 mi per kilowatt which would have still been 246 mi range. If I bump my speed up to 70 and cruise at that I lose 25%+ of my range. I go from 3.8 kilowatts to 2.8 with no AC or heat and probably 2.3 with. That means at 70 I can go between 177 to 215 miles. I even did a trip recently where I drove 150 miles at 70 throughout in 25° weather with the heater on at 78°. I left with 100% and 150 miles later I was at like 12% at my destination and had to charge. I do agree that all ranges even for cars should be done a different speeds. I believe Tesla tests theirs at 55 or 60 miles an hour to get their range. The EPA does it slightly differently and so does the European group. But I would love it if Tesla would step up and do speed testing at say 35, 45, 55, 65, 75, and published those results. Because I know at like 35 I can get over 4 miles per kilowatt at a steady state. Also I think the battery is in a lot of these things should either be bigger to maximize capacity or in this example where they had a 200 mile range I think they should get rid of the battery and have a super capacitor option. If you can get like 40 mi range with a super capacitor everybody would be fine with that. Because they can get to where they are going plug it up and charge it as quick as possible.
Tire pressure makes a massive difference, if you're cruising on the freeway at a steady 70mph you could easily get away with adding another 15 psi to each tyre.
@@ianmangham4570 Not really. The tires on a Telsa are already nearing the max pressure. With 21in rims you set at 42psi and with 19in rims you set at 45psi. The tires are only rated for 52psi cold.
Glad I seen this. Looks like I'll just grab the AR grizzly. Seen a guy full throttle around going 35mph and he got 38 miles before empty. And it's half the price
You're not even getting half the bike. I received my Delfast in Feb and it's been a beast. I ride hard and get at least 90 to 110 miles with it. It's like a Tesla going up against a golf cart. Dont' fool yourself.
Yup this is exactly what I thought was gonna happen from the last ep you made. Thanks for making this video, that dude that said he was getting 150 miles on your last video was probably going 15mph lol
There are established DOT standards for testing motorcycles and scooters/mopeds. Apparently, e-Bikes are too new to have these standards, but if and when whatever regulatory agency creates these rules, they should set the minimum testing speed at 20 mph. You're NOT going to buy an e-Bike to travel LESS fast than you would pedaling a bicycle manually. Been following The Inja since his crazy mini-Chinese scam car adventure. Keep up the great work! 👍
they probably gave you janky battery cells also. There were some watt hour calculators ebike riders were using to calculate range but i forgot the exact formulas. I think fat bikes used 35 watt hours per mile at 10mph no pedalling
I own a chaos 1600w e scooter. Claimed to do 45 miles per charge but yet again that's doing 15mph and not stopping and starting. Riding normally 33mph uphill etc it does about 21miles
I always tell folk a good measurement of range on most ebikes at a decent speed is ONE MILE PER AMP HOUR., 🙏👍🇬🇧 and that's an ADULT /100kg or 220 pound.
I have an electric bike not nearly as powerful as that one. Mine does as advertised if you read between lines of said advertised range. I live in a lot hills and 15 miles from work and ride to work at least 3 times a week. Between line advertising, 30 mile round trip I get home with little under half of the battery left sometimes less, using psa and me pedaling the whole way. My bike claims 60 mile range. So I can see 60 miles plus if like you said if I kept it at 15mph or less. Using throttle only which I've never done would not give me much range at all. The delfast is quite impressive.
Thank you so much for this review. They almost got me with the guiness world record range marketing!! I mean, i knew for a fact that i wouldn't get 200, but i was thinking somewhere around 100-150 or at the very least 75. 40 miles is a let down, and its only a letdown because of the way they're marketing this bike
It's probably 15 mph while pedalling, to get 200 miles. They should have an "offroad" spec. that says 40 miles. I guess they do now, that you tested it. I say, "offroad" because a lot of places it would technically be illegal to ride over 20 mph. Great work on your part, as usual.
THIS RIGHT HERE! 15mph while pedalling! it's an e-bike, not a motorcycle! why would you expect to go 200 miles on battery only when pedals have been provided and need to be used in the city/street settings? The complaints on here remind me of when people bought plug-in hybrid cars and complained about the poor fuel economy....as it turned out 90% of them never plugged the cars in so they were running on the gasoline motor 100% of the time instead of electricity for the 1st 100km. Poor reading and poor understanding can lead to this type of disappointment.
I was seriously thinking about getting one based on what they said the bike will do. Thanks for your HONEST review I still like the bike but not for $6,600.00 and forty miles full charge. No one will ride that bike at 15 mph.
I'm not surprised by the low range he got on the bike, look at how small the battery is, plus the hungry ass motor. I know Ebike that can get double the range for around the same price or for a little more.
Honda Monkey or Grom is cheaper by thousands of dollars, gas on that will be like 4-7$ for like 160-200 mile range. Even if we factor in insurance(for me that's about 30$ USD/month) I'm pretty sure that still comes out cheaper(over 5 years of ownership), more reliable, and can do mostly the same things that ebike can(or all if you're willing to break some laws lol)
Is there any place in the US where you can ride an ebike legally on the road at speeds of greater than 28 mph. Mopeds and motorcycles can be powered by electric motors , but have differing equipment requirements that ebikes don't have.
I was dead set on buying this bike but after watching this video I’m not gonna make the purchase thank you very very much for the review on this electric bike
Honest review. Better to find a good ebike builder in your area and have one built to suit your needs. I build powerful lite ebikes. Weight is the key and amp hours capacity. High power bikes in Los Angeles California builds some great ones. I’m 170 lbs but most Americans are 200 plus. That will greatly affect your range. Ebike technology needs to evolve with some new more efficient battery management and drive motors. But we’re getting there very slowly. Maybe the gas price crisis will pump some capital into that.
Have you tried doing 200 miles at 15mph? It would be good to see how many miles it will do at that speed to find out how far it would go, if you had a spare 13 odd hours to waste
There could be something wrong with the battery. The voltage sag doesn't sound normal given the Ah specs, and given the broken power button and wonky rear view mirror, it wouldn't be surprising if the lithium sucked, too.
im pretty sure they were useing a fully speced up battery and bms and different controller for that record and they only travelled at 20 mph in tuned eco mode ,id bet your battery had cheaper 5amp draw cells in it ,to suffer that much sag on full charge.
As far as the alarm on that thing. I filled the piezio horn on mine with hot glue until I finally removed the alarm system when I upgraded my controller to an unlocked Sabvaton 72150.
Complete disappointment in the manufacturer's range quote. You are right, range specifications should be done at every 10 miles increment (10mph, 20mph, 30mph, 40mph, etc., then top speed range). But Delfast, unlike all other e-bike manufacturers, did get right what most consumers want, that long range capability and the belt drive. Now they just need to convince BYD to sell them their Blade battery so the e-bike can be charged on the road at an auto charger. This way we can use the e-bike for cross-country bikepacking. Imagine not having to bust your ass going against the wind or uphill on a bikepacking trip. Or not needing to use your car everywhere you go.
They all can make claims but ive had a rad runner for 3 years and its did all and more than i ever believed it could. Plus over 30 miles an hour is way to fast for a bicycle on bike trails so im happy with what i get outta mine.Never let me down so far. Im 5 -11 and 250 pounds ride it every day.
The reality though is typically the average commuter is only going to be traveling through the city and in most all city's the speed limit set's around 20 MPH in the the city street's so going 25 MPH like most E-bikes is realistically all you need. Pushing to 28/ 30 MPH is only concievable on roads that would allow for it but anyone getting an E bike probably only needs 25 miles one way max and 25 back and that would be for things like work are the rare occasion where you need it to visit a friend but even then I doubt most will travel 20 miles even. If this bike was 4 grand it would be a hell of a deal.
imagine paying $7k to ride 45mph for 30miles. also this seems very underpowered for the platform. cost me half the price to build a 17kW Enduro bike with 60mph top speed & 50mi range under normal (aka fun) riding conditions. 15mph range TBD. I get that the high-power ebike business makes for some tough economics but that's even more reason to either build your own or go spend that $7k on a surron or other bona-fide electric dirtbike
Mirrors, same ones I bought and from China’s favourite mall, they don’t last if you swivel them often (to get out the gate that’s essential). Voltage sag is awful. I’m running 63amp max @ 45mph 72km/h and don’t see anywhere near that sag only 2 volts max. The controller sounds cheap, not a sine wave controller. Far better out there from Vector or Eleek. Ever want help buying one let me know.
to be fair, its currently not physically possible to make electric bikes of any kind perform the same as a traditional motorcycle also considering that in most places you can't go over 20 to 28 mph on an ebike, I'd say 15ish mph is about how fast most people are going to go
Shit at list I paid for mine $1,600 almost brand new....now I'm saving for a really good battery....the one that came with the bike is a 72v 28 ah...with a 5000 watt motor
Hey thanks for the vid, your rear fender is loose and if you dont address it now you're going to run into two major problems. 1. You will break the rear axel like I broke mine and you'll have to replace the motor stator just like I had to replace mine. It's a major pain in the ass so you definitely want to put Loctite on those two rear bolts that hold in the rear axle. Another issue is every time your rear fender goes backwards it's hitting the major cable that's coming out of the motor if that motor cable gets cut you are screwed. I just noticed it at the end of your video when accelerated your rear fender went back so you definitely want to take care of that right away and probably avoid any jumps even small jumps off of curb this bike is not meant for that
Inja you are an honest guy!Delfast are an Awesome Company!but myself I would want more Range so Delfast are you hearing this New uprated Battery and Controller!More Range! More speed!Brilliant blog Dude!
WOW!! Mahalos fir your great honest feedback on this DELFAST TOP 3.0! My DELFAST TOP 3.0 will be arriving on my doorstep Feb. 14,2022! After seeing your video, im NOW SKEPTICAL about its claimed "WORLD RECORD LONG RANGE!!" As i was planning to try circumnavigate this whole island i live on (135 curcumference, i think). If itll ONLY GIVE ME 40 MILES, with an ungodly voltage drop like i see in your video..... ill for sure be stuck...not even 1/4 of going around this island!! I think mine will be the 3rd DELFAST here on this island, mine being the newest one! Thank you for your great video and honest review! Keep up the awesome work..do more videos on this delfast!!
This isn't just a review. For those of us that bought this bike and felt like they were going crazy only getting 40 miles out of charge. This video adds sanity to the crazy 200 mile range. 100% agree with everything you said. It's a fun bike, but they need to change their range claims. 15mph = 200miles / 30mph = 60miles / 50mph = 30miles is more realistic.
The y had a world class bicyclist use lowest level pedal assist on a curved bicycle track to accomplish the goal.
Also keep in mind that batteries are graded. Like usually vape batteries are like a B+ or abouts. The high grade A+ batteries are usually sent to companies with high end product’s… like a battery pack for a cordless Dyson vacuum or something. Obviously they used high end batteries (and other components) when this ebike broke the world record. But for $6600 is just insane and just using the world record as a cash grab. The one thing I like about this is the bike has good size… I’m 6’3 205/lbs and I’m having a hard time finding a bike that fits my frame
Should be obvious with more speed you get less range.
@@bobbyspain905 Then they should obviously state that to consumers who are oblivious to things that are NOT obvious to people who don't understand such things... Don't ya think, Mr. S? It really comes back to total disclosure. To being, you know, honest.
People who have no clue how things work simply hear what the producers of the thing says the thing does. They rely on these producers to inform them, educate them. In a dishonest world, this does not happen.
Fortunately, we who are oblivious have the Inja to make what is not obvious, obvious.
Yeah I see no problem with advertising range at a certain speed. We all know that mpg ratings for highway are done at 55mph and something similar should be stated for ebike range.
Finally someone said it. They definitely need to do all types of weight and all type of speeds to the consumer
It’s like they have a little 100lb Asian who tests all the bikes and he pedals his little ass off as hard as he can that’s how they get these wild numbers
NO!!!! Here’s how they do it. They have that 100lb Asian kid WALK the bike up Mount Everest and ride down then use Ebike power just to where the mountain levels off the. Ride like 1/2 mile, walk bike up the mountain again COAST DOWN and keep repeating till he reaches 200 miles!! Lolololololol
Thanks for sharing your real world test of the Delfast! I almost purchased a Delfast yesterday but wanted more real world test from people others.
Enjoy your videos!
Please Keep the videos coming!
@@mmmasterscross7915 total agree, i was thinking that bike just becusae of range. im going with e-cells super monarch 1500awd
Thanks for the honesty man. Even a taste of transparency these days goes a long way
My pleasure. Trying to keep the market honest
Thanks for sharing your real world view of the delfast 3.0.
I almost purchased one yesterday but had not seen any reviews like yours until today. Please keep the videos coming. Really enjoy your videos!
Level 1 assist and pedal power for about 75% of 12mph then you get 200 mile range or a 16 hour tour.
Lol
I'd die before I got off the bike
You can build a "Delfast" with twice the power and more range for almost half the price.
Yes and no. Delfast motor and battery are top end. I forget the motor brand but i looked into before it was $2,200 just for the rear wheel and than to get the same battery they have is another $2,500. Than there is the belt drive thats not cheap
@@miguel360kmc I got mine completely custom built just like the Delfast bike for $4k fully assembled and shipped from the same factory Delfast uses
@@miguel360kmc Well delfast uses qs 205 that costs about 500 dollars and if you use lifepo4 battery it could cost about 1000 dollars if you do it yourself and frame with suspension is about 1000 dollars and 14kw sabvoton 72200 controller is 300 dollars so total of about 2800 dollars.
@@LiamDavidsonYT what company is that?
@@quantrellh.4939 13 hours later still no response lol
Wish I would have seen this before I bought mine. A modded surron that costs 7k has a 75 mile range at 50 mph.
If I drive my delfast at 35 mph I charge after 18 miles because I get to like 40% battery. Cool bike but if I want range AND speed I'd go with a modded sur ron.
Your range sounds similar to a Stock Sur Ron
I just setup my BAC4000 with a 72v38ah battery. Life is good
Range far exceeds the Delfast 3.0 in your case
Even when hitting 40-60 mph at 7000w
@@joem8601 what's your range look like when you go 50ish mph?
@@quirogacris87 I could probably lower my bike to 5000w-6000w and easily achieve 40+ miles at that speed
Go check the 72v range test videos
Someone did 35 miles on the highway and reached a 55mph average so he was going even faster (I think he tested a 32ah battery which is actually a 34ah battery) in that case mine would do better since it’s a 38ah, search “72v dyno and range test”
What modded surron nets you a 75 mile range doing average of 50mph, And in what conditions? Of course you can't always hit 50, Especially towards the end of the battery capacity. And terrain, weight, Temp, Voltage pull etc etc always play a part in range..
@el q Are you unhappy with anything else about your Delfast 3.0 other than the range?
Ima make an early guess of probably like 50-60 miles. Let's see how this turns out... 40 huh... Well, it's not like I didnt expect a low number. I mean at the end of the day I'm not disappointed, I'm just well aware of how these range estimates work, but you still get a like. I mean you're setting up the Ducati to have potentially 200 miles and that has a battery pack the size of the Scamborgini. There's no way this would have that at full blast.
Guiness, who run the records book, started out in the UK where the legal max speed for an ebike is 15.5mph, the same speed as the entirety of Europe (25kmh). So a speed based on the maximum legal for a vehicle to be classed as EPAC (the ebike class, rather than the moped class) is entirely fair and reasonable. Under the classification of the country where they are based, and all of Europe, a vehicle is only truly an ebike if it has a max motor power of 250w, has no throttle that eliminates the need for pedalling to reach speed, and has a max speed of 25kmh / 15.5mph. Anything above that is a electric moped, or electric motorcycle not an ebike.
Many states in the US have a legal speed limit of 20mph for an ebike to not need a moped/motorcycle license and registration, tax and vehicle insurance.
I'm skeptical that they even got 200 miles at 15mph if it only gets 40 miles at 30 to 50 mph, only way I can think is maybe they used non standard wheels / tyres, indoors therefore no wind, temperature at 25C. Super smooth surface, I know they used a velodrome.
even a new car that gets 40mpg will get a lot less mileage than advertised if you drive it WFO.
@@ash0787 I don't think you appreciate just how much of a brick wall air resistance really is. The aerodynamic drag force increases with the square of the velocity, so if you double your speed you will burn 4 times the energy to push air over the same distance. So getting a little over 4 times the range at 15mph vs 30-50mph is perfectly reasonable.
Not that it really matters though. Any decent cyclist could comfortably maintain such a relaxed speed on flat terrain all day with no electric assist. Range estimates for e-bikes just gets really dumb since real world results are extremely influenced by local conditions and riding styles.
"who's going to ride at 15mph?" welcome to the UK ebike on road speed limit
California and most US states have a similar speed limit.
This guy lives in the middle of nowhere and thinks the law doesn't exist.
They should have called it "Diesfast" :)
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That's a lot of money, you'd think it would have a lot more power. I paid 3.000 dollar's for my hyper scorpion and it gets up to 30 miles per hour and about 30 miles range.
I did a 18mile commute roundtrip the other day on the Delfast 3.0 and avg 20-25mph started at 100% when i finishd my battery was at 96% not sure how good or bad that is for others but I was def satisfied with that. I'm in Chicago, outside temps was 50, this weekend suppose to be high 70 so I'm going to do another run see what i can get
That's absolutely amazing performance
That's really good!
Mind if I ask how much you weigh?
@@boulderntumble I'm 5'11 and weigh 195ish
@@Thought1 Thanks
We now officially know The Inja is the problem.
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lol, but for real to have that much voltage sag and the low torque it means the battery doesn't have many cells in parallel to push enough amps
That is a scien-tarific well known official big fact in all his testing. LOL
Indeed we do
Great honest review!! You saved me spending a lot of money on another bike with BS specs.
To be honest, I would do 15mph because I would want to go far distance.
Bike companies NEED to do max speed max payload ranges tests. So if someone is lighter or rides slower they can expect MORE instead of expecting LESS with how they’re doing it now
theyre just taking advantage of all the new customers
They'd be the 1st transportation company that does. Do you know the range your car goes at max speed and payload?
It's refreshing to see an honest reviewer on UA-cam. keep up the good work man.
A 200 mile range when you use it as intended which means not maxing it out like a motorcycle. Most people cycle at 9mph.
True, but if you're buying a bike with a speed like this you're going to top it out. People that want to bike just for getting from a to b would spend less and get a more commuter friendly bike that is limited to normal class 1 or 2 speeds
Excellent review & many buyers I'm sure is mad for that very high cost & see it's not worth 1/4 the price plus not even meeting half it's range at full blast! SMH! 🤦
Lol nice math, 15 mph =200 miles, 50!!mph =100 miles, is that what you think it should be?
No vehicle in the history of the world meets the range claims EVER, batterie powered vehicles are even worse, the voltage drop from 25% to 50% throttle doesn't double, it might quadruple,and people dropping 7k on a bike without doing a little research are fucking idiots, so is this guy taking an ELECTRIC PEDAL ASSISTED BICYCLE, which is a BICYCLE that you PEDAL effortlessly because of PEDAL ASSIST, and thinking it's a "dirt bike ". the manufacturer states all over the internet the record was achieved at 15mph ,but let's disregard that and ask for 100 miles at full throttle. Some people shouldn't be allowed to post on the internet
Great video, it would be cool to see a comparison video with more affordable alternatives that also offer pedal assist mode, unlike the Surron and Onxy.
I saw someone do a stress test on a juiced hyper scrambler and he managed 82 miles with the bike going around 25mph with peddling. He showed his route with both uphills and flat areas. To give it a more real world test.
The 200 mile range is based on a level 1- 2 pedal assist with the rider pedalling not level 5 assist throttle only!
Incorrect. The rider was not allowed to pedal at all for the test. In fact Guiness made them remove the pedals entirely.
I agree. Make the specs like a flashlight. How long of use you get on low medium and high output. Makes sense
I live in city of Kiev, where this test was taking place. It actually was on oval track for bicycles on constant speed with a few stops. And many companies in Ukraine make the same bike, for far less price tag (if you wonder, delfast is not an original producer of these bikes, the frame design and the concept bike is public on internet for many years by some engineer from Russia). These bikes are heavily overpriced
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@@dmkuznezov4341 that's good, stay alive brother
@@yomain7227 thanks, my man!
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Give that alarm speaker a little poke with a ice pick. Should fix things.
Inja, is this WhatsApp number from you? It has your image attached to my “Yay!” comment.
but if thats the case then this is still the most range you can get out of any ebike why? cause with all things being equal and everyone would ride their ebike to its max power consumption then all those range claims by other manufacturers with less numbers would even go less than they claimed. if delfast can realistically only go for about 40 mi in 50 mph then the other ebikes can only go for like 10-20miles tops on max speed. In that case, this bike still gives you the longest range by ratio compared to almost all ebikes. but i truly appreciate the very honest review.
If that little mole hill was 1 foot longer you wouldn't have made it. I think trail riding for too long might burn that weak-ass hub motor up in short order. That bike looks like a dirt bike but is really intended for city commuting. Nice honest review!!
Hi Inja! Excited that you dig the power and throttle on the Top 3.0 bike, and it brought you so much fun!
In regard to your comments on range, you are correct in that different riding and driving conditions effect ebike range.
The 200-mile range claim was proven in 2017 by Delfast’s achievement of the World Guinness Record. This past June 2022, we decided to retest the bike and (in ideal conditions) and reached 232 miles on a single charge.
Our record-breaking range performance of 200 miles was set under optimum conditions: temperature was 77 degrees Fahrenheit, on a smooth track, with an experienced rider focused on keeping the speed and pedal ratio in balance for maximum range.
No doubt, that range of an e-bike in everyday use is not about ideal conditions, since it can be affected by several factors. Battery capacity, power output, speed of travel, weight of cargo, amount of pedal assist used, incline or decline, conditions and type of terrain, as well as temperature and other weather-related factors. All of these literally affect the e-bike performance in that or another way. And let's not forget each e-bike owner's personal riding style.
Sometimes people accelerate their bikes in such a way, that a few minutes later only half of the battery is left :)
To answer all the questions regarding range, we’ve put some educational information about it on Delfast’s website: us.delfastbikes.com/delfast-is-the-worlds-longest-range-ebike.
Also, we are available 24/7 at bikes@delfastbikes.com or 925.384.2010 and we will gladly share all the details about e-bike performance to help you and all riders figure out how to maximize their bike range.
We sell similar, but we list it at 60+miles with mixed use. Full throttle on 8kw 72v I've personally tested, 25miles full throttle and easily 60+ miles real riding
That's not bad this bike can go 50miles/h. How much does it cost?
@@m_xx989 I've gotten it to 62mph. 12kw model is $4300
@@m_xx989 really though, wattage is a joke rating. Looks for phase amps for the system and NM of torque. Our 8kw is a QS rated for 181nm.
@@e-powersport oh boy that's bonkers quick bike. Is 4300$ price for the best model you have?
@@m_xx989 basically, you can add better forks, rear shock, name brand battery etc. They basically come with the same stuff as the Delfast, no mirrors. I think the fully decked out with quick charger is less than $6k
About time we learn the real range on some ebikes. My 250 cc motorcycle gets 100 mpg at highway speeds and only cost me 4K new.
Would make a good uk city bike with speed limits of 30mph using pedal assist level 3 bet could get 80+ miles
Subscribed. Thanks for your honesty. A owner of a 40Ah Wallke H6 Max(2nd e bike). Only got 34 miles with peddle assist. I was disappointed 😢.
Yes I agree it should be standardized and transparent using real world conditions based off of speeds that item in question can actually do as well as disclosing the weight of the rider who performed the test.
Great video...my Stealth Bomber does the same thing...first 2 or 3 miles goes from 100% charge to 71%,.
I used to figure that you'd get at least half the range reported,but this is outrageous!
My ebike is 72v (84v fully charged).
I knew damned well you would be hard pressed to get 40 miles range riding hard like that.
My commute to work is 10 mile round trip and if I keep in mode 2 at about 22 mph I recharge (at work) at 40 miles. I could probably eke that out to 50 miles but you have to be real careful how many beans you give it off the line as it will simply shut down if I try and draw too many amps at that low a charge.
My battery is a 20s 7p - 18650's
Get yourself a 21700 pack then you can hold more amp hours in the same space
We are getting the Watt Wagons Super Charged X-Tour later this Spring. 200 miles per charge and I will personally be testing this claim by riding it from Las Vegas to LA and back. I can't put a link in here, but they're on our website under the Street Legal motorcycles. With the specs it seemed the more appropriate category.
This is the content i look for. Actual real world range testibg. My ebike will do about 30 to 50 miles depending on how hard you test it.
Yeah, spot on with the manufacturer claim problems. 👍
At least you got pedals to get you home when battery dies. I have a super soco TC max and ended pushing it home more than once
As a lot said, appreciate the real world ride review, makes sense given the size battery the Delfast has (If I remember it was a 72V 20amp hour). I went with a Huck Stinger3000 at $6k, at the time it was the biggest battery I saw (72V 50amp hour) I got almost 80 miles on it when I "Real world tested it mix between road and bike lanes" which was a blast, but those last 15 miles was on low battery the whole time giving me range anxiety but still went strong and pushing 45mph at the last 5 miles. Now I saw online custom batteries for it (72V 75amp hour). My hope is they develop a better battery/power source sometime in my prime time. These bikes are a real blast, but damn they are expensive, but I'm really thankful I was able to get one and enjoy it for a 50 mile run every once in awhile because I have family and job that occupies most of my day so to squeeze out 2 hours of open road what else can a guy ask for.
no it has 72v48ah which is insane it only gets that 40 miles on a charge id be lucky to get 25miles per charge.
I mean it does take a lot more energy to go faster. I have a Tesla P85 from 2013. I have only really range tested it in the cold and there's a big difference between going say 55 and 70. At a steady cruise doing 55 over the course of 15 miles I averaged about 3.8 miles per kilowatt. If I could keep that up that would be 292 mi which would be above the normal standard range. I did do it with the heat and seat heater off just to maximize it, but even with them I get about 3.2 mi per kilowatt which would have still been 246 mi range. If I bump my speed up to 70 and cruise at that I lose 25%+ of my range. I go from 3.8 kilowatts to 2.8 with no AC or heat and probably 2.3 with. That means at 70 I can go between 177 to 215 miles. I even did a trip recently where I drove 150 miles at 70 throughout in 25° weather with the heater on at 78°. I left with 100% and 150 miles later I was at like 12% at my destination and had to charge.
I do agree that all ranges even for cars should be done a different speeds. I believe Tesla tests theirs at 55 or 60 miles an hour to get their range. The EPA does it slightly differently and so does the European group. But I would love it if Tesla would step up and do speed testing at say 35, 45, 55, 65, 75, and published those results. Because I know at like 35 I can get over 4 miles per kilowatt at a steady state.
Also I think the battery is in a lot of these things should either be bigger to maximize capacity or in this example where they had a 200 mile range I think they should get rid of the battery and have a super capacitor option. If you can get like 40 mi range with a super capacitor everybody would be fine with that. Because they can get to where they are going plug it up and charge it as quick as possible.
Tire pressure makes a massive difference, if you're cruising on the freeway at a steady 70mph you could easily get away with adding another 15 psi to each tyre.
@@ianmangham4570 Not really. The tires on a Telsa are already nearing the max pressure. With 21in rims you set at 42psi and with 19in rims you set at 45psi. The tires are only rated for 52psi cold.
@@custommotor ouch that's some mofo pressure
@@custommotor Tesla
Thanks man, ive been waiting for this review! Honest as always :) Ehm at this price point i guess a SurRon is a safer bet.. Keep it up! :)
Thanks man.. I appreciate your video especially explaining the battery charge with distance.
LOVE THE HONESTY. THESE OTHER UA-cam FAKES LIED ABOUT THIS BIKE.. YOU GOT A NEW SUB👍
Glad I seen this. Looks like I'll just grab the AR grizzly. Seen a guy full throttle around going 35mph and he got 38 miles before empty. And it's half the price
You're not even getting half the bike. I received my Delfast in Feb and it's been a beast. I ride hard and get at least 90 to 110 miles with it. It's like a Tesla going up against a golf cart. Dont' fool yourself.
Yup this is exactly what I thought was gonna happen from the last ep you made. Thanks for making this video, that dude that said he was getting 150 miles on your last video was probably going 15mph lol
Lol!! Probably. Like why even buy this bike at that point?
@@TheInja indeed and for that price, it’s just ridiculous honestly.
Thanks for helping a newbie! Any thoughts on a cheaper model that goes about 35+ mph?
Check out the Ariel Grizzly. There are videos of people testing them out and going 35+ and getting 40+ miles per charge at full throttle
I still can’t wait to get mine. Sometime in February 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
You'll love it.
@nick her what he actually means get a us build e bike not a white label
There are established DOT standards for testing motorcycles and scooters/mopeds. Apparently, e-Bikes are too new to have these standards, but if and when whatever regulatory agency creates these rules, they should set the minimum testing speed at 20 mph.
You're NOT going to buy an e-Bike to travel LESS fast than you would pedaling a bicycle manually. Been following The Inja since his crazy mini-Chinese scam car adventure.
Keep up the great work! 👍
they probably gave you janky battery cells also. There were some watt hour calculators ebike riders were using to calculate range but i forgot the exact formulas. I think fat bikes used 35 watt hours per mile at 10mph no pedalling
I own a chaos 1600w e scooter. Claimed to do 45 miles per charge but yet again that's doing 15mph and not stopping and starting. Riding normally 33mph uphill etc it does about 21miles
Show the range for each mode, otherwise they're hiding behind the eco.
I always tell folk a good measurement of range on most ebikes at a decent speed is ONE MILE PER AMP HOUR., 🙏👍🇬🇧 and that's an ADULT /100kg or 220 pound.
Great review, range is very important and to lie on the range is very disappointing.
I have an electric bike not nearly as powerful as that one. Mine does as advertised if you read between lines of said advertised range. I live in a lot hills and 15 miles from work and ride to work at least 3 times a week. Between line advertising, 30 mile round trip I get home with little under half of the battery left sometimes less, using psa and me pedaling the whole way. My bike claims 60 mile range. So I can see 60 miles plus if like you said if I kept it at 15mph or less. Using throttle only which I've never done would not give me much range at all.
The delfast is quite impressive.
I like my delfast. I get 80 miles on a single charge. Maybe that u are 6'2 and I'm 5'6 I get alot of range.
I disagree with you about the range. My 6'1 he had my delfast 3.0 for 3 three days. He got 70 miles in one day. It depends how u ride the ebike too.
Thank you so much for this review. They almost got me with the guiness world record range marketing!! I mean, i knew for a fact that i wouldn't get 200, but i was thinking somewhere around 100-150 or at the very least 75. 40 miles is a let down, and its only a letdown because of the way they're marketing this bike
I’m so glad I watched your video!! I had been thinking of buying that bike. Delfast is a scam!!
Where can you purchase a new start/stop button?
It's probably 15 mph while pedalling, to get 200 miles. They should have an "offroad" spec. that says 40 miles. I guess they do now, that you tested it. I say, "offroad" because a lot of places it would technically be illegal to ride over 20 mph. Great work on your part, as usual.
THIS RIGHT HERE! 15mph while pedalling! it's an e-bike, not a motorcycle! why would you expect to go 200 miles on battery only when pedals have been provided and need to be used in the city/street settings?
The complaints on here remind me of when people bought plug-in hybrid cars and complained about the poor fuel economy....as it turned out 90% of them never plugged the cars in so they were running on the gasoline motor 100% of the time instead of electricity for the 1st 100km.
Poor reading and poor understanding can lead to this type of disappointment.
i love that you didn't even bother to fix the mirror before doing your B-roll.
I was taught from a young age, you don't fix what you didn't break
That's how the saying goes right?
@@TheInja yes i think that's right.
I was seriously thinking about getting one based on what they said the bike will do. Thanks for your HONEST review I still like the bike but not for $6,600.00 and forty miles full charge. No one will ride that bike at 15 mph.
Exactly.
Get yourself aniioki q8 pro version using 25-30mph you can get around 100 miles
works beautifully
Thank you for the honest review
Thank you for showing this. I was looking into buying one I think I need to keep looking
I'm not surprised by the low range he got on the bike, look at how small the battery is, plus the hungry ass motor. I know Ebike that can get double the range for around the same price or for a little more.
Honda Monkey or Grom is cheaper by thousands of dollars, gas on that will be like 4-7$ for like 160-200 mile range. Even if we factor in insurance(for me that's about 30$ USD/month) I'm pretty sure that still comes out cheaper(over 5 years of ownership), more reliable, and can do mostly the same things that ebike can(or all if you're willing to break some laws lol)
I'm convinced you work for an oil co.
Is there any place in the US where you can ride an ebike legally on the road at speeds of greater than 28 mph. Mopeds and motorcycles can be powered by electric motors , but have differing equipment requirements that ebikes don't have.
I was dead set on buying this bike but after watching this video I’m not gonna make the purchase thank you very very much for the review on this electric bike
Honest review. Better to find a good ebike builder in your area and have one built to suit your needs. I build powerful lite ebikes. Weight is the key and amp hours capacity. High power bikes in Los Angeles California builds some great ones. I’m 170 lbs but most Americans are 200 plus. That will greatly affect your range. Ebike technology needs to evolve with some new more efficient battery management and drive motors. But we’re getting there very slowly. Maybe the gas price crisis will pump some capital into that.
Have you tried doing 200 miles at 15mph? It would be good to see how many miles it will do at that speed to find out how far it would go, if you had a spare 13 odd hours to waste
Lol!! That's the problem haha. Don't have the time nor the patience to ride a 150lb 50mph dirt bike 13 hours at a speed I would never use. Haha
If I have a 50mph ebike, I'm going 35+mph the whole ride! Otherwise. Just by a regular bike and don't have to worry about battery usage lol.
There could be something wrong with the battery. The voltage sag doesn't sound normal given the Ah specs, and given the broken power button and wonky rear view mirror, it wouldn't be surprising if the lithium sucked, too.
True
im pretty sure they were useing a fully speced up battery and bms and different controller for that record and they only travelled at 20 mph in tuned eco mode ,id bet your battery had cheaper 5amp draw cells in it ,to suffer that much sag on full charge.
As far as the alarm on that thing. I filled the piezio horn on mine with hot glue until I finally removed the alarm system when I upgraded my controller to an unlocked Sabvaton 72150.
Holy comments.
I'd be pissed for 6k+ 40ish miles. If you want it done right? Build it yourself... That's what I ended up doing. 😃
THANK YOU for such an honest video
42 miles is still actually good.
Every other bike gets half that.
Sur-ron gets 25-30 miles at 30mph
That left mirror is hilarious
Complete disappointment in the manufacturer's range quote. You are right, range specifications should be done at every 10 miles increment (10mph, 20mph, 30mph, 40mph, etc., then top speed range). But Delfast, unlike all other e-bike manufacturers, did get right what most consumers want, that long range capability and the belt drive. Now they just need to convince BYD to sell them their Blade battery so the e-bike can be charged on the road at an auto charger. This way we can use the e-bike for cross-country bikepacking. Imagine not having to bust your ass going against the wind or uphill on a bikepacking trip. Or not needing to use your car everywhere you go.
where can you buy those mud guards? I can't find them anywhere
They all can make claims but ive had a rad runner for 3 years and its did all and more than i ever believed it could. Plus over 30 miles an hour is way to fast for a bicycle on bike trails so im happy with what i get outta mine.Never let me down so far. Im 5 -11 and 250 pounds ride it every day.
My niece is close to 500 pounds. *IF* the bicycle would handle her weight, it might make it one kilometer if the motor doesn't burn up.
The reality though is typically the average commuter is only going to be traveling through the city and in most all city's the speed limit set's around 20 MPH in the the city street's so going 25 MPH like most E-bikes is realistically all you need. Pushing to 28/ 30 MPH is only concievable on roads that would allow for it but anyone getting an E bike probably only needs 25 miles one way max and 25 back and that would be for things like work are the rare occasion where you need it to visit a friend but even then I doubt most will travel 20 miles even. If this bike was 4 grand it would be a hell of a deal.
imagine paying $7k to ride 45mph for 30miles. also this seems very underpowered for the platform. cost me half the price to build a 17kW Enduro bike with 60mph top speed & 50mi range under normal (aka fun) riding conditions. 15mph range TBD. I get that the high-power ebike business makes for some tough economics but that's even more reason to either build your own or go spend that $7k on a surron or other bona-fide electric dirtbike
Agreed!
Now the prices dropped but thats all i meed to get back and forth from work
Mirrors, same ones I bought and from China’s favourite mall, they don’t last if you swivel them often (to get out the gate that’s essential). Voltage sag is awful. I’m running 63amp max @ 45mph 72km/h and don’t see anywhere near that sag only 2 volts max. The controller sounds cheap, not a sine wave controller. Far better out there from Vector or Eleek. Ever want help buying one let me know.
For price, might as well pay extra and get the Zero FX motorcycle. I'm sure the FX gets 200 miles at 15mph as well.
Definitely
How about EBeast compared to a 250cc gas dirt bike (Seen on my channel) Half price too!
Thanks for the info, was really considering one for the future 😮
to be fair, its currently not physically possible to make electric bikes of any kind perform the same as a traditional motorcycle
also considering that in most places you can't go over 20 to 28 mph on an ebike, I'd say 15ish mph is about how fast most people are going to go
Shit at list I paid for mine $1,600 almost brand new....now I'm saving for a really good battery....the one that came with the bike is a 72v 28 ah...with a 5000 watt motor
Thanks for the scoop! Bug out camp is an hour away
This couldnt get me there, disappointed
isnt there model that broke the record the prime version? is that the prime you used?
I think your back fender is loose. It's flopping around and pointed towards the back.
Hey thanks for the vid, your rear fender is loose and if you dont address it now you're going to run into two major problems. 1. You will break the rear axel like I broke mine and you'll have to replace the motor stator just like I had to replace mine. It's a major pain in the ass so you definitely want to put Loctite on those two rear bolts that hold in the rear axle. Another issue is every time your rear fender goes backwards it's hitting the major cable that's coming out of the motor if that motor cable gets cut you are screwed. I just noticed it at the end of your video when accelerated your rear fender went back so you definitely want to take care of that right away and probably avoid any jumps even small jumps off of curb this bike is not meant for that
Thanks! Maybe $2000 price tag is the right number for 40 miles.
Inja you are an honest guy!Delfast are an Awesome Company!but myself I would want more Range so Delfast are you hearing this New uprated Battery and Controller!More Range! More speed!Brilliant blog Dude!
WOW!! Mahalos fir your great honest feedback on this DELFAST TOP 3.0! My DELFAST TOP 3.0 will be arriving on my doorstep Feb. 14,2022! After seeing your video, im NOW SKEPTICAL about its claimed "WORLD RECORD LONG RANGE!!" As i was planning to try circumnavigate this whole island i live on (135 curcumference, i think). If itll ONLY GIVE ME 40 MILES, with an ungodly voltage drop like i see in your video..... ill for sure be stuck...not even 1/4 of going around this island!! I think mine will be the 3rd DELFAST here on this island, mine being the newest one! Thank you for your great video and honest review! Keep up the awesome work..do more videos on this delfast!!