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MIXED VOICE Singing Lesson with Kobi Mccoull (Part One)
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- Kobi Mccoul reached out to me through email for voice lessons and we've decided to document the process. This is our third voice lesson or so and so we've already gotten the ball rolling with some exercises and things Kobi is working on. Kobi and I both love to talk, which is something we struggle to balance in the lessons, but it makes for a great learning experience for you guys since he asks great questions and you get to learn from his experience. Please check out his UA-cam Channel here: / @iambradarthur
Time stamps:
00:00 Intro
01:07 Going over his obstacles/struggles/improvements
02:50 Why is his transition between m1 and m2 easier up high?
06:12 Getting M1 on “ee” vowel up high
16:50 Laryngeal tilt/density/vowels
21:10 Working on switching from a semi-occluded exercise to a vowel
23:30 Open to closed timbre up high on ‘ah’
27:15 Working on stabilizing light m1 above f4 area.
36:50 How do you practice. Using the right tools for the right job.
43:00 What is good vocal technique?
48:25 Back to stabilizing light m1 above F4 and working on sovte’s
54:10 Fry to voice leaps to improve coordination and ease in the high range
1:02:35 Translating the ease from the exercises to a song
1:16:21 Questions and wrapping it up
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Awesome to see this come out and it’s been great working with you so far Gregory✨ looking forward to more vocal exploration in the future. Hope it’s helpful to anyone watching 🎶😊
No doubt its already been helpful and through the powers of the internet it will continue to be helpful. Thanks for letting us witness this. Definitely looking forward to part 2!
It was so interesting to see your progress through those few exercises, keep it up mate 🙂
Thank you to Greg and to the student. For allowing us to witness this.
Working on your mix eh?
@@Everything-mh4bp Hi, sadly nope. None of Greg's videos work for my current brain, and understanding. But I of course am happy for all the others that they work for. And I still believe in I think something Greg has said publicly, but I am not 100 percent if it was said publicly. Thanks for noticing my comment and commenting yourself.
This dude is almost exactly where I am! Awesome vid GW
I find that I can hit notes really easily across my range with out any kind of tension however, I've been finding that the quality of my sound or tone is still not that great when it comes to singing in practice (E4 and above). After following along with all the exercises in this video I'm finding that my singing is some of the best its been. There's still consistency issues and I find that warm-up is an absolute must for making sure my mix has SOME body at all, otherwise it's just too airy and is like a semi falsetto almost. Been practicing almost a year now, going from just chest voice and falsetto with no connection to here has been a really awesome experience just seeing the progress that's been made. I don't plan on stopping til I'm at a really really high level and can sing whatever song I want to.
Very interesting coordination! I'll practice for sure. I'd like to work on it in the next lesson!
Just finished my night vocal practice... Your Hold method with open throat and slight twang helps a lot...
Plus i had real difficulty vibrato in High range... But hold method helps a lot in it ... I don't fully understand how but it does...
So thanks 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 I'll forever be thankful to you
And one more stuff... I can put better presence/fullness in my voice... If i imagine the vowels in my language ( which is 12 vowels ) beforehand... And decide the volume before i execute note...
Yes! These kind of videos are my favorite. Thank you.
Insane video quality
This is pure gold. Concrete practising instead of theory. Thank you so much
Omg this is wonderful!! Thank you so much!!
I'm binge-watching all of your videos and it's all pretty informative. I am a fan now, you are sooo my type.
I think you're the best singer that explained these things
Your videos are always very valuable!Thank you very much Gregory West !And keep up the good work!=-)
Kobi, wonderful job on this training session! As the session developed, u could hear the progress... keep up the great work! Thank you for the viewing, much appreciated. . . Thanks also to studio west...
This is the best vocal tutorial I’ve ever seen.
Wow! I have the exact same issues. Thanks, Greg!
Hello Gregory, this is great stuff thx also Kobi for sharing! I watch it last night i liked an exercise that i try to do. but i cant find it right now even if all the video is marked :D the exercise was like a pause while vocalizing to fry falloff then revocalizing from there. I dont know if it makes any sense to you but i will appreciate if you help me with this. thx in advance.
That VOCAL FRY IS A LIFE-SAVER
Rgis kind of videos are helping so much thanks man
The best teacher ever =D
I'll definitely be watching this the whole way through tomorrow. I don't see this guy or almost anyone else struggling with the same problem I have, but how should I mix without twang? I started using it automatically when I started to learn how to mix at first without knowing what it was, and now I can't mix without using at least a little bit of twang.
@@StudioWestLessons Yeah I guess so. I think the twang sound is fine for a lot of rock songs I sing but for pop I'd like to have a more free feeling mix. Currently, it's very easy to tell when I'm mixing because my singing has that twangy edge to it. I can't get past D4 without flipping into falsetto without twang. Do I still just need to strenghten my headvoice more to be able to blend more easily?
@@StudioWestLessons I have seen both of those a few months ago. I haven't tried implementing flag tension consciously at least yet. My guess is that I might be doing a little bit of flag tension but I still have a lot of twang in the sound when I enter G4 and above.
Will I be able to have a more free feeling mix if keep strenghtening my headvoice? I've been trying to experiment mixing with wider mouth positions (without yelling) because I feel like there the line between a mix and headvoice becomes more blurred leading to a freer or "easier" sounding mix than if I use a lot of twang to get up.
@@StudioWestLessons Ohh I see. I'll definitely rewatch the falsetto mix video now. My headvoice is still in it's early stages but currently I'm doing The Aussie Vocal coach's headvoice workout N.1 (around 15 minutes) daily and also one of Ken Tamplin's 5 minute headvoice workout daily. I'm also doing other daily exercises but those are the ones that target headvoice.
Thanks for the help!
@@StudioWestLessons I watched through the falsetto mix video again. Is falsetto mix the same as what some other people would call a heady mix or a head dominant mix? It kinda sounded like that to me
@@StudioWestLessons Ohh I see. Thanks for the info man
Heyy your really great man , your too too talented , I learned and learning many things from you plzzz keep teaching us with you wonder full skills ...
This video is amazing, it definitely helped me :0)
Hello from Philippines here 😊
What happens if u drag vocal fry to higher range? Maybe will make vocal folds tired because of the activation of new muscles? Maybe will make the false vocal folds get it the way of the sound? And then difficult to spread and relax from the pure sound?
Do u think u can do high range vocal fry without getting tired with easy practice medium or high?
Muh gave me great technique. I'm glad my coach gave me that exercise. I guess these exercises tribute to what you want /who you want to sound like. He just said do that 3000 times and it freakin' worked! I was so surprised. It helped my head voice out gave me a good split in resonance. I'm still practicing it as well but over songs so I can get them into muscle memory as well. I am also doing singing success 360 on top of all of it. Wax on, wax off.
@@laptopstudy3279 Are there any videos demonstrating that exercise?
@@GevT03 justin stoney s exercises r the best
I'm pretty sure you already know this, but i'll point it out anyway. Regarding a healthy vocal technique, people who describe it as unhealthy maybe don't necessarily imply a damage on the vocal folds in the short term, but rather in the long term, like 10 to 15 years. I totally understand your point about "it not making one feels hurt or uncomfortable with the technique employed" because one should care first about the voice feeling good rather than sounding good. What are your thoughts about this?
Great... This is exactly what is happening in my voice now after finding my mix few weeks ago😅. Thank you so much, this was really helpful.
How long does it take to get the mix at this stage to become reliable and more sing able?
Update
I can sing an ee and ou in mix without the quivering or cracking and with vibrato too, and I can sing some lyrics too but then they are still not as clear as they should.
However, it gets a bit shaky below E4 and feels comfortable very comfortable at an A4/A#4. It's starts to get uncomfortable around B4/C5 so I can't sustain on those notes.
PS :I can sustain the notes below E4 with a vibrato but with lyrics, that's when they tend to be a bit shaky.
In terms of weight, it sounds chesty but I would like to work towards more of a lighter mix, any tips?
@@StudioWestLessons I do see progress every week as it gets a bit easier to sing the lyrics of a song in the mix coordination.
Thank you very much please 😊
Hey, Chris. I had ever seem you from someone else's video, and just thought about asking you for the pravite teaching stuff or something like that, but I went to your website, there was NOTHING there, then… what am I supposed to do so that I have your lessons? (NOT SURE if I'll buy it right now. And I wanna see what you would apply. How you do things, etc. And how much should I pay for lesson? Is there any discount/coupon or something that I can take)
The word "love" messes me up on high notes sometimes too
seems like Kobe is having some muscle tension that's what he means by weight and if you look at Greg and look at Kobe, Kobe is not opening his mouth wider as he goes higher there lies his tension, thanks for sharing especially Kobe
You can leave it as is (the entire video upload) and just add the time-stamp in the description. That will have the same effect as video chunks.
@@StudioWestLessons great. I haven't had the chance to look at it yet, but I feel confident enough that I can click like in advance. Hahaha. The timestamps should be good enough. I don't think you the extra work, unless there's a reason you would want to.
Kinda cool seeing it as parts in my opinion. As hopefully it builds up the suspension?
@@awe-ctaves7304 ok. I'd leave the suspense for shows lol. For me, the duration gives enough pause, because, to date, I haven't completed it, but I'm glad for the option of looking at it in its entirety. Plus, I'm sure there will be more sessions. That's my preference. With the timestamps in the detail section, you can click and create the same effect, no?
@@dduke HI. Cool. I see this stuff as a show. I know I am not alone in that thought. Much like we know You're not.
I am just learning from you. You say this hour long video or "show" gives you pause. Yet you wanted the whole thing up loaded at once. Why would 1 hour lead you to pause. Yet a two hour video or longer wouldn't?
Yes.
Yep the next episode :)
Hey,@@awe-ctaves7304. You're not alone. You're right. The world is made up of individuals with different likes and preferences. I can look at it in one go. The pause was just because I saw it and, of course, am interested, so I just clicked. I would usually look at full vids from Greg. Thanks for the dialogue.
What does M1 and M2 meann? Mix 1 and mix 2? Something similar as the 1rst and 2nd bridge of SLS? Thankss, cheers!
I'm assuming he's in the falsetto mix?
HE NEEDS TO SUPPORT HIS VIICE MORE. BREATH SUPPORT
May I know what application you’re using for recording?
I think i am a tenor a light one actually i really can belt high like c5 if somehow i support it by fault ppl sometheach me supporting omg but the main thing i hate belting g#4 g4 its tick or crack so hard
I wonder what you and Chris Liepe would talk about.
YES! MAKE THIS HAPPEN!
You look familiar. Dylan obrien? Shawn mendes? Hmm
What were those abbreviation things, letters/numbers you were saying?
Woohoo I am the 1000th Like
What is M1 M2 you are talking about?
Hello greg, how can i transition from head voice to mix voice? Like you were doing in the first part of the video?
Thanks Greg, I gave it a go but my voice always cracks when i transition from head voice to mix voice and it's difficult to get the chest quality while doing that.
Achieving good vocal balance at the second passaggio (F#4 to a B4), it's a fuckin nightmare...and is physiologically explainable...I'll not dare trying to explain that shit lol...but I know it's a thing
@@StudioWestLessons yes my mistake f#4 to b4
@@StudioWestLessons like I said before...there's a detailed physiological explanation for that difficulty...you can use other ":only sensation based" means to get the result, and it's ok...I think you're great doing that by the way...cause at the end of the day, our instrument is all internally based 😆...sensations will pretty much define wich path we'll take...but vocal physiology is important too (my opinion), at least here in Brazil it's becoming a huge trend associating both...I think cvt has done it to...right ?
@@StudioWestLessons I don't know how to explain it to you precisely right, especially in "good english" lol...but very poorly speaking, this particular "issue", must be worked in a meticulous muscular balance...both ear and sensational wise...like you said before, you don't necessarily need to know to make it work, but (for me), it's interesting knowing what the F is going on there 😄
@@StudioWestLessons if would guess...is because you need to maintain the stretching of the chords firmly working, and it can't happen with a lot of subglottal air pressure..but there's a catch...and that my friend is a motherfuck#$ lol...ok, we all know it will not happen if you blow a ton of air like there is no tomorrow right ?..but you cannot drop the air column either, wich must be consistant and kind of "tight"...in order to provide the necessary support for the passsagio notes...and everything must be opened back there...in short, it's a fuckin bitch trying to do that shit...chairs have been flying around my studio at least three times a week 😂😂😂
Hey Greg can you take a look at this crazy vocal:
ua-cam.com/video/KHaE7N2Dla4/v-deo.html
This is the style of bollywood. I just want to know if CVT can be helpful for this type of singing. Not talking about crazy riffs but the mode he's in. Full yet soft.
how do i book a session with you bro ?
Wait what is M1 and M2?
M1 is chest voice M2 is your falsetto and flageolet (tho they are different sensation, some thinks flageolet is whistle voice but its not, they are both still categorised as m2)
This is all easy. Ive got the perfect method 🎉😂
8:35 sounds flag
@@StudioWestLessons always a small win for me when I can hear FT in other voices
I almost had a private session with Greg 😂
DONT FORGET! WORK ON DIAPHRAM PRESSURE! SO IMPORTANT TO PRESS ON THAT DIAPHRAGM!
😊😊😊
IS ANYONE GONNA TALK ABOUT BREATH SUPPORT? IT IS OBVIOUS HE NEEDS TO ENGAGE HIS DIAPHRAGM ESPECIALLY IN THAT SLIDE
Da hell does M2 and M1 mean?! Lol
It refers to the way the vocal folds vibrate. Chest/Modal voice and head/falsetto is the common nomenclature by teachers. The M1/M2 naming system comes from a voice science model proposed by French voice scientists that gained popularity in recent years.
Cool you sound like your laying a egg