Why I Hate NDS Pop Up Emitters - They Really SUX
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2019
- Why French Drain Man hates NDS pop up emitters after 35 years in the drainage industry.
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Your pop up does look better for sure, but if a lawn mower wacks off the nds pop up, you are cutting your grass way to short.
According to any lawnmower manual, grass newer should be cut with 0 clearance. The same goes for mowing your grass on the roof, or balcony... 🤣
My house has very little slope to the road maybe just a few inches so I have to use the kind without a spring to prevent the gutters from flooding over. So I guess each has its use depending on the situation.
I have these NDS pop-ups draining away from predominately pool & deck discharge into the edge of the grass/yard. We recently covered this area with cobblestone. Is it ok to replace these pop-up covers with some other plastic cover that essentially is a screen and then I can cover with cobblestone since it will drain through up through the rock?
no website link i can buy the polylok drain emitter from, and no specs as to what size you are using. thanks for teasing me with this
Sometimes the emitter fit is loose.What is the right screw to use to keep that pop up emitter in place?
Can you put that spring controlled emitter on the horizontal? I want my pipes to empty and I want to exclude rodents etc. I have seen a horizontal emitter that looks like a trap door but I can't find one for sale.
Can the pop up emitter be installed without the attached elbow? Meaning can I put it on top of a piece of straight pipe?
helpful video, thanks
Can that Pop Up be connected to ABS pipe?
How wide and deep is that trench?
I live in western New York not far from Buffalo. The winters here can be brutal with snow, ice, melting....repeat. I’m assuming near same conditions if not even worse In Michigan. You do not have any issues with pop ups getting stuck/jammed with those kind of winter conditions?
@Steve Gilbert water is a solid during such conditions and our systems have crazy big trenches that hold hundreds of gallons during thaw. No not a problem. Thank you for commenting
Is there a product that can control the direction of the water discharge? I don’t want a 360 degree discharge from the emitter. I want to be able to direct it to only discharge into the street and not back into my lawn. I think I am looking for a flip up emitter?
NDS makes one with a spring, too, btw. Amazon, dude.
Question:
I have rolled curbs. Can't drill them. can't cut them. pop-up is the answer, right?
well.. is there one with a DIRECTIONAL flow, so i can spit water OVER the curb, rather than just flood my yard NEXT to the curb?
if not, can you recommend a sprinkler head I could maybe make work?
First of all u bought the pop up with out the spring. Next time make sure to get the 420 pop up with spring !
Are pop-ups just for terminating downspout and yard drain lines? Are they ever used to terminate french drains? Thanks for all your videos!
Had no idea there was a model with a spring... But I have my mower set at max height, so it's never a problem. The problem I have, and a spring might solve it, is critters (squirrels I think) like to claw and chew at the cover to get to any water that hasn't drained (through the slit) yet. I had one "thirsty" critter even chew through the "cross bar" that holds the part that pops up (cap). I rebuilt it with two part epoxy, so no biggie. Thank you for the info!
I just wanted to comment on the same. You never set your mower blades that low, so there should be virtually no problem with accidental chop-off. Also, a spring-operated emitter may impose other issues like the spring may get weaker over time or get rusted away (which often happens). The spring may catch pine needles and leaves in the spring coil and stop operating properly. Overengineering simple things like this is a waste of time and money.
Hello French drain man. Could you offer any advice as to why my underground drainage system that ends to a pop emitter still has quite a bit of water in the drain near the pop up? 2 days of heavier rain(finally🙏🏻) . Never had this problem before but system is about 1 year old. Just noticed this issue today. Pipe is full of water at the emitter for as far back as I can reach my arm in there. About about a 30’ run, sloping to the downward part of the yard. Other end of drain at downspout does not have any water back up. Elbow at emitter has 1/4” whole drilled so no water is supposed to stay in that end. Looking for any advice/help you could offer. Thank you from a NE Michigander.
Same. Not enough velocity for water to get up elbow to pop up so I have standing water in pipe. I guess it’s ok? Next downfall will circulate the water out but leave more standing water.
Your slit in the bottom of your elbow may be clogged with something
I have an NDS emitter, and my French drain overflowed onto my patio earlier this week. I couldn’t figure out if I had a clog, but after looking around our system, I looked at our NDS emitter in the front yard, and the damn thing was not automatically opening, even though there was probably 100L of water in the French drain and it was NOT draining at all. Mind you, I’m in Texas, so there was no freeze; it was about 65 degrees. I yanked the entire NDS emitter off the drain pipe and water just came gushing out and drained the entire trench quicker than I could go into my backyard to check it.
This has not ever happened in the five years I’ve lived here, and my NDS has a spring on it. It’s possible someone took it off another product and put it on here, but it’s too strong when we have monsoon floods. This NDS product is an absolute piece-of-shit system.
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Where do I purchase the Polylok pop up drains that are not $50??? I looked on Amazon and they are $55 and then on the actual Polylok website and I got excited because they were only $21 (drain w/ elbow) but then you click on purchase and the ONLY option for shipping is additional $25 bucks!! So please share if you find them for UNDER 50 bucks :)
Ok so moral of the story, if you buy anything outside of your company than its “garbage”, and if we don’t take tour advice then it’s always going to be done wrong..
Pretty much. How about instead of bashing every other competitor product - maybe focus more on the positives of your own products? This is my # 1 reasoning for not using companies that do nothing but bash their competitors. I’ve had an NDS pop up for 6 years- never an issue and my kids mow over it constantly and never has it been damaged. Educate yourself about the proper grass height, if you’re cutting the pop up / you’re cutting WAY TO SHORT!
@@supermommy8367 Bingo! thanks for that reply.
Nobody placing any bets on when that spring will rust out?!
Good info. Do you need heavy rain for the emitter to discharge? I have one, and I find that it only discharges during downpours
Same. Seems like my 1-2% slope allows water to sit until there’s enough water to make water height in pipe at pop up level with highest point. Then it starts dribbling out.
@@GregoryGuay with the shallow slope you won’t have as much pressure pushing up out of the pop up. Think of the angle of your underground drain pipe. The water will fill the pipe until the height of water level reaches the top of pop up. If your pipe is only sightly pitched most of the pipe will fill up before it comes out of the pop out. With a larger pitch angle the water still fills the pipe until it reaches pop up height. Imagin the height of where your pop up is, now imagine a level line starting at said pop up and going to where that downpout is on the house. That level line should be lower than the entrance on the drain pipe and is where the water line will fill to before ejecting out of pop up
I can't answer your question directly, but in one of his other videos he hints that one of those grated drain covers (e.g. the NDS 6" round grate, not an emitter) is an alternative. I went that route because I had the same concern, and it works pretty good. I've seen some emitters that have a hinge, which I might try. However those won't solve the problem with the "lawn guy".
@@JasonCapriotti I went with the grated cover as a solution. Appears to work out just fine. I don't have enough slope and no real way to get it without going well off my property line. The pop up's with a spring would never open. The grate works just fine. Went from having a flooded driveway with 4 inches of water down to just a little witch clears off quick enough.
What do you suggest for a drain for water off a patio to a yard that isn’t allowing water to run off the patio?
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What size river rock is that?...It looks larger then the # 57. We ony really have limestone and river rock avab in the area.
Thanks Man I'm a customer.
I only know of limestone rock available here also, and they only carry in 1" increments. In clean, they have 1/2", 1", 2", 3".
With those sizes, I'm wondering what size to go with for a french drain that has very good slope, 150' long, with the blue octane, burrito wrapped. I'm thinking 1" rock to hug the pipe, and 2" rock on top.
How much pressure do you need to open the outlets? I'm concerned if I don't have tons of fall my foundation French drains won't produce enough pressure to open and get back up. May be overthinking it
Here you go this is brand new just hit the market
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I have pop up emitters in my yard at the ends of my 4" PVC lines and corrugated drainage tiles. These lines do not have holes in them otherwise they get filled up with mud and roots. Water just sits about 1/3 to 1/2 full in these lines unless there's enough pressure to push the water out the pop up emitter. What's the solution to the standing water in the lines leading up to the emitters?
Vent the line up stream
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can i raise the vertical part of the elbow so the pop-up emitter sits higher? With my grade i may need to dig a little lower at where the emitter will sit
Same question
Yes, you should be able to get a piece of schedule 35 PVC pipe along with a coupling to basically extend the height of your pop up emitter or grate. The schedule 35 is the thinner PVC pipe to be used for outdoor drainage, which is different than the thicker schedule 40 which is typically used for indoor drainage and sewer applications.
Using a hacksaw or reciprocating saw, you can cut the schedule 35 PVC pipe to whatever length you need to extend the height of your pop-up.
Chirag Raval this extra height will likely result in more standing water in pipe until enough /next rain pushes water up. Is this typical?
My pop up emitter would not discharge. I thought it was because it didn't have a spring, but when I went back to lowes to get another one none of them had a spring. What could be my issue?
Water is leaking from fittings need 200 year tape
I have the “cheap” springless emitters. No problem for me since I set my mowing deck to 3 inches. I can see how that would be a concern if you like to your lawn like putting green.
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NDS has pop ups with spring load doors. You’re using the residential grade product in this video. Go buy it from a commercial supplier and it will be a 4” pipe with spring loaded door.
@Leisure you have to consider cost and NDS is Ridiculous
Have you tried the NDS with the spring in it? Does that seem to work up against commercial lawn mowers? I emailed NDS and they said they would replace mine free for me! Can't be to bad if they free and they work!
You need to watch this playlist before you clog your line.
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I believe that NDS now has a "spring loaded" pop up emitter cover, and they are much easier to find than Polylok
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can you pop off the caps of these NDS pop up emitters if lots of crap gets stuck in them?
No NDS only breaks off but here is one you can take off
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For a french drain, does ground water have enough flow to open a pop up emitter?
I don't like the spring loaded. We make one that has a low pressure channel built under the pop-up emitter lid allowing low pressure / volume to seep out. We put a lot into our pop-up emitter. Best Pop Up Emitter FDM's V2.0 for Downspout Drainage
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Thanks. Ya saved me $$$$.
You guys need to sell this nationwide on Amazon, amazing products to help us homeowners for sure. Any consideration to go global?
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What about using grates instead of pop-ups? (need to do this soon)
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Real question is why is there no spring on the NDS unit? Just get any spring loaded pop up emitter and problem solved.
NDS does have a spring-loaded one, btw
Soooooo,……..when the spring finally wears out,……what do you have left? An NDS pop-up emitter!
My emitter keeps popping off during a heavy rain. Should I be gluing it in place? I just have it friction fit
I had the same problem and asked my landscaper. He said to wrap a piece of thin material around the emitter that can give it enough friction to stay on the pvc pipe. It really wasn't satisfying to me, but that's how they're made. I haven't found the right material yet. Since I only have four of them, it's not a huge problem to put them back in place.
Duct tape it and push it in. Sometimes not much thought is needed.
Must have some serious putting green grass for the blade to be hitting that.
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Ridiculous. 1. Never had a lawnmower suck the lid up as that’S an urban legend and 2. A house downspout would rarely, if ever have enough rain and force to activate a spring loaded one. That’s why they are indicated for commercial. Smh.
It's not urban legend. I cut off the NDS lid last week with the lawnmower. It wasn't due to cutting grass too short. All the people saying that don't have bermuda grass which you cut short.