Why Corrugated Pipe is Better than PVC Pipe for Yard Drainage
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2019
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I've been wanting to do this for quite some time. I want to show you how corrugated pipe, that single wall is self-cleaning. I want to explain it and I want to show you it's something that you really need a visual. So this is Baughman, single wall, four-inch corrugated square. You can see how it's kind of squared here. That's for strength. This pipe is incredibly strong and the inside is rounded really nice. I'm going to show you how this pipe is self-cleaning, how it was designed to work. And here's the Baughman High-octane. It's rounded on the inside, squared on the outside for strength. Man, look at those inlets. This pipe is just incredible.
So here's a clear piece of four-inch corrugated pipe. What I'm going to do is I'm going to run water through it and I'm gonna show you guys how the turbulence that's created because of the ribs, the rounded ribs, this pipe is self-cleaning. I'll start by putting pine cones through it, tree bark, all kinds of stuff.
Now when I talk about turbulence, like this bucket of water, those waves, that's not the turbulence, that's no turbulence. The turbulence is a true mixing and this mixing, this turbulence that occurs when the water's running, that's what makes the debris, just collects the debris, suspends it in the liquid and carries it out to the discharge end of whatever kind of system you have. Whether it's for downspouts, whether it's for yard drainage and you're using the High-octane. This rounded interior creates this self-cleaning turbulence and I can't wait to get the water flowing and show you.
I deliberately set this up to where the discharge and is in a pothole. You can see the water, you can see all the turbulence. Look at that, look at that action, That's going to remove any sediment. But I did deliberately put a belly in at the end of a 50-foot run. Most downspouts don't have a 50-foot run, but I wanted to use a 50-foot piece of corrugated clear four-inch pipe just so that we could see it in probably the worst-case scenario. [...]
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It's pretty straightforward, for corrugated pipe, the trench has to be damn near perfect, and if for any reason it clogs, your digging it up, but for PVC pipe, it lays down and keeps pitch easy, bellies are rare, and cleaning is easy too.
How is throwing a bunch of floating debris an accurate representation of the pipes "self-cleaning" capability? I want to see a test with dirt, sand, and sediment.
Try those helicopter tree seeds. Or a longish stick. Eventually something is gonna start a huge jam.
Sediment can build up, when the in flow is slow. And then harden in place, starting the build up process. If the currogated design was better, they would use it in waste water applications.
turbulence man, turbulence!
Sand, silt, mud, roof shingle silt will collect in corrugated
First thing I thought when I saw this is its all floating debris being put in there.
I’m not for or against pvc or corrugated pipe but i cant help but wonder how a buildup of mud and sand or clay would fair.
Why don't you compare this to PVC. Does stuff get stuck in PVC? What happens if you reduce flow rate? Or increase it? Is there a cost factor? A single data point means nothing.
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This clear is not the kind of pipe that is installed. Ever. It's usually single wall corrugated or PVC. Don't use the single wall cheapy corrugated. I've been pulling out and replacing those for years. they crack and get filled with roots etc... Get a nice double wall smooth interior corrugated or use bell end PVC or even just piece together regular PVC fittings. If you're going to dig the trench then put in the good stuff. The baughman stuff is probably great for [F]Trench Drains and the blue thick baughman not perforated is better than the cheapy black corrugated and yellow baughman equivalent . But nothing compares to the flow of a smooth wall interior pipe. The flow rate in this video is torrential downpour flow rates. Most rains will not give this flow rate.
@@FRENCHDRAINMAN Yes but even that video is not really a comparison. You show us a beat up PVC and then throw two pipes in a lake. I understand one is heavier, sure, but if the ground is not stable even the corrugated will bow. There are so many youtube videos with people just praising what they use and bashing the competition. Nothing like the 'Project Farm' channel. Sad.
@@narendranbhaskar Shout out to the Project Farm channel. Great, unbiased, thoughtful reviews.
@@RaspyOB174 He never EVER said use it - the clear pipe was for demonstration - he only recommends their own blue or yellow corrugated.
Take a drink every time he says " turbulence " . 🤪
The clear pipe is of a different design. What you should try next is to cut open an actual corrugated drainage pipe, like cut it in half lengthwise so that we can see how it handles sand, dirt and shingle debris and run it next to a PVC pipe also cut in half. This way you can show whether one is superior to the other. You also should show varying degrees of flow including one that is much slower. I think corrugated is used simply because it is cheaper, otherwise you'd see it in plumbing if it was superior.
exactly, this is not apples to apples. The clear pipe had no inlet slots also. The slots might lesson the turbulence.
Right, the debris used here isn't even small enough to settle in the grooves. We need DIRT
Yep if having a bunch of friction points in your pipe helped clean it then my turds would be flowing down corrugated when i flush instead of smooth pipe. Pvc is easier to install to the correct slope without getting a "belly" to collect stuff, doesn't have the friction points to slow down the water & help it clog, and is stronger. It also allows for installing cleanouts. Corrugated pipe is designed ONLY to work good enough and be cheap. Using less material to have a strong enough pipe is the whole reason that corrugation was invented to begin with.
Completely agree I have both in my yard. I told the builder I DID NOT want corrugated. I purchased all the PVC myself. We have a TON of sand and clay and sure enough the two corrugated pipes are filled with sand. The PVCs are draining like a water hose at the end. We had to replace the corrugated and it has now been about 8 months and now all are still draining as planned even the other 2 original PVC that are now close to 2 years old. Plus I can easily push my water hose up if I see any signs of clogging... which has yet to occur... Knock on wood. Slow movement or light rain is a killer to the corrugated... it just continues to pile up slowly, the clay and sand became very hard and its just a matter of time for it to build a swell and block more sediment.
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I’ve now watch several of your videos for no apparent reason other than how interesting you make French drains and corrugated pipe. Never in my life would you could’ve convinced me I’d be getting hyped on French drains. So much so that I’ve been surveying my yard looking for a French drain project. No, im not lying!! Thank you for the education and the enthusiasm!
A bunch of little roots penetrated my corrugated drain pipes so they clogged up. Just replaced with PVC. I like it because its a lot stronger, but you do have to slope it right.
Perforated corrugated or solid corrugated?
Needed a side by side with pvc to be honest
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Bingo! ... my thoughts exactly!
@@redaizo hahaha omg as soon as I clicked on this video I thought about him
@@redaizo thanks
One of the reason the stuff is not staying in the pipe is because the velocity of the of the fluid in the pipe is above the scour rate. The scout rate is typically more than 2’ per second the velocity of the water that was flowing through the pipe is well in excess of 2’ per second.
But what about for slow flow situations, such as seepage from a subterranean curtain/french drain? Wouldn't it be possible for sediment to catch and slowly build up and bind up, eventually clogging the pipe?
This is EXACTLY what I'm wondering. So I was going to install a french drain in my crawl space. The flow is often slow. But I've seen it puddle a little under there.
I'm curious to know if I should use this, or a smooth pvc pipe with holes drilled in it or whatever..
Only time I might use corrugated would be for a down spout, never for a low flow situation.
@@dannainan7732 my french drains with pvc are fully clogged?
yes, I will work hard to do it right the first time by installing PVC :)
🤦🏼♂️ That debris isn’t getting stuck because IT FLOATS! Try adding some fine dirt or roof shingle particles to the water. See how much comes out and how much stays in the grooves.
Isn’t that why we use #6 gravel under around and on top of the pipe?
The stones hold the pipe down
@@irakozak1 He said the kind of debris INSIDE the pipe (in the video) is lightweight and floats, unlike shingle gravel. He wasn't saying the pipe would float away, as that would be installed underground.
Best case scenario. Slow flow won't generate the same amount of turbulence. That turbulence is needed to overcome the internal crenellations. The rounded edges are designed to overcome the inherent draw back to the design of single wall corrugated pipe.
Yes install matters, especially with corrugated pipe, but pvc pipes help overcome install issues as they've more rigid and don't suffer bellying or collapse.
Corrugated is cheaper, quicker to install and more flexible but that's where the advantages end. If you want a lower maintenance, more robust, longer lasting drainage system you go with pvc.
You should have had a piece of PVC beside it to show that stuff would stay in it...
If. I don’t have any corrugated in my yard and never had an issue. Wouldn’t say pvc is better in terms of clogging but it’s certainly not worse. PVC does seem to last far longer though from what I have seen.
Liquids and debris fly down PVC.
That clear dryer vent hose is not the same as the black square corrugated pipe you had in your hand. Nor is it the same as the high octane you showed when you have roots growing into it. You can't blame "bad installation" on the roots growing through the inlets of the high octane. Why didn't you use the black pipe or the high octane pipe. That clear hose is obviously smoother than the black or blue pipe.
Okay guys, take a shot everytime the man says "turbulence"
Shit I'm drunk
I was looking for this comment.
@@benb7727 me too. I was looking for him to explain how ridges would create self cleaning turbulence that performs better than straight solid PVC pipe. And he only shows "look at this turbulence" and I only see water stream that normally coming out from a water hose
You have a lot of drop in your demo. If it is used in standard situation of say a quarter inch per foot drop, it would not be so turbulent thus dirt and sand would in my pinion would fall into the slots and eventually inhibit the flow.
Ive opened up corrugated decades old and its clean inside, it works. I hate the stuff because it breaks years and years later though
I love your experiment, however I'm curious if the dry wood and leaves would have simply floated on the top of a bucket of water too. Would a fistful of dry sand or dirt dropped into a bucket of water float to the top or would much of it sink to the bottom?
I LIKE IT!! Thank you I will soak sand in a bucket and run it again! Good call thank you for commenting!!
It's been a year, no update?
Notice he has not shown an update. It's because he knows he is lying. Corregated pipe is trash. It captures water and sediment causing the pipe to clog. A PVC pipe has been shown time and time again that it is far superior. Look at the concrete tubes used for city drainage. They are not corregated because they would clog. Its not rocket science yet people still refuse to accept it.
@@michaelvanos1423 corrugated is way easier to work with and cheaper and works fine so who cares tbh
@@cryengine_x the owner will when their house is having foundation issues due to the corrugated pipe collapsing and water not being moved away from the house. Corrugated pipe holds on to the water and is not strong enough to hold up over time. There are numerous counts of contractors, irrigation crews, and landscapers that had to dig up corrugated pipe that was collapsed and / or clogged with mud and debris and found it was causing water issues with foundations and basements. Go look up comparisons and you will see exactly why corrugated is trash. So you should care and if you dont then you clearly dont give a shyt about your home.
In a properly designed sub surface drain system, the flow rate would rarely be greater than a trickle; meaning the flow rate would be too slow to create turbulence needed to carry trash down stream - but then trash shouldn't be an issue if the system were properly constructed. Try again with smooth wall.
Agreed. I don't see much value in this experiment. Especially absent the same demonstration with smooth wall PVC.
I like the info in all your videos. In an area where we aren’t concerned about frost heaves and really cold temps, but are more concerned with mud, shingle debris, and build up, would you say that pvc (not sched 40) is ok for the application?
How will this (corrugated pipe) hold up to moles? I am considering PVC over corrugated pipe simply due to the widespread mole problem in our area (despite killing them). I would rather use corrugated pipe, but moles.... Thoughts?
what kind of size belly or belly depth is enough to trap leaves? i know there are several factors to consider, but a ballpark idea or more examples could help. i have a couple 70ft runs to do from my gutters. i'm not sure i could do it without any sort of belly, particularly with curves where straight edges or sorts become impractical. i saw your shovel string slope video and it does go a long way to helping. any other tricks to staying straight. do your guys ever use straight edges and levels to keep those trenches flat? i would have also liked to have seen roofing granules, since I have no trees but a new roof.
The outter corrugation also helps prevents soil particles from migrating which can lead to settlement.
Keeping the trench at a constant slope is key. The old timers used a 1x6 in the center of the ditch to run their pipe along. PVC is ridged and easier to keep to a consistent grade but I usually use corrugated. I always run the high end up to the surface so I can use a hose. The last 10 should be tight line so you can cap it and fill the ditch with water to flush out. It's like developing a water well screen. The fines must go into the pipe and get flushed out. The more fines you remove the bigger the collection are around the pipe.
Gold Hunter What’s the minimal slope for a 50 foot run? Pretty flat in coastal Charleston, South Carolina.
I have a small area where water collects by the house. It is right above a buried solid wall pipe that carries water from the backyard drains to the street (drilled hole in the curb and it drains in the street). What would I use to run the water into that pipe and how would I connect solid wall pipe into the corrugated pipe and should I wrap the pipe?
I would love to see the sand video, that would be like the roof shingle material that wears off. I’m getting ready to put in drain popups so I’m interested in the part! Great video!!
My roof debris clogs my yard drains badly. They used PVC pipe.
the way to go...is to install vented 2"x3"x4" Y adapter right where downspout reaches the ground or foundation then use solid corrugated (the good USA made) 4" into distribution box (12" or 15") running 2 down spouts/corrugated pipes into D. Box and 1 out going corrugated 4" from D. Box to a catch basin/well with (clean out and vented) out away from the Home's foundation to the lowest well draining lawn surface point in your yard... and you can have multiple D. Boxes running to the catch/basin or lets say multiple basins (front yard/back yard) using all "solid" (Baughman pipe for example) well made 4" corrugated pipe...I mean the good stuff, not the China BS material! I'm a landscape contractor of over 35 years and have replaced numerous "crazily" designed drains from roof water run off to bad landscape surface drains and drainage....roof water run off is no time to use cheap pipe or slotted pipe and PVC is just to hard to place with perfect pitch and all the underground obstacles...there are instances for using PVC in drains, but just not necessary in this case...good quality pipe = no crush problems and running 2 spouts into 1 box gives tremendous flush power when using the aforementioned vented Y's at down spout ends.... in the end you will have multiple clean out/flush out points and a high volume fast flowing redirection of all roof runoff water.
FDM - I have 3 downspouts that need to drain away from our house. The slope is very minor so I've thought up a plan. Hope you approve. If I just slightly bury these 3 pipes or maybe hook them together I can only get about 2 inches of bury to keep a slope. 4" pipe maximum. My thought was to bury them deeper, we could run them all into a box with a low inlet ( 6" )to connect to and this box needs an outlet or discharge maybe 4 to 6 inches higher to bleed off all the flow. Could even have a grate on top to prevent backflow. In the event of a big storm, it would just overflow into the yard. The only way I can think to get the system to work with such a minor slope. What do you think? Is such a drain box available? Our plan was to re-sod anyway so digging up the backyard is not a problem. Thanks,
Great insight! I'll keep this in the bank for the next problem prevention
I like the D-troit logo on the bucket. Grew up in Shelby twp and graduated in 94 from Ike. Great demo
Love the Tigers bucket!
What is the required slope to keep smooth wall pipes self cleansing?
Unless its vertical, corrugated will never be self cleaning
It would be cool and informative to have a comparison with clear straight pipe. See how quickly each pipe can empty an IBC tote.
What about crush factor of corrugated pipe over pvc?
If you want compressive strength use schedule 40 PVC.
I’ve been using it for 40 years and this presentation condemning smooth walled pipe is absolute nonsense.
If your pipe has any liad placed on it then its probably been installed incorrectly.
Please confirm whether there was any turbulence?
I sorta stumbled into this PVC vs Corrugated beef and am now fascinated by it
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I always thought it was for flexibility, didn't think it helps keep it clean. Learned something new! Now I have a question... I have a sump pump that pumps into a corrugated pipe, and it seems to build up some iron ochre stuff in all the ridges. Is that stuff too muddy for the water turbulence to clean? Just wondering if that'll eventually clog or if it that's as bad as it would get and stay relatively clean (although losing some turbulence action)
I don’t understand how the ground water underneath the pipe, say in the middle gets into that pipe without perforated holes. Do they make ez drain with perforated holes?
So you're saying that corrugated pipe never clogs? I just spent an hour in the pouring rain pulling my downspouts out of the top of buried corrugated pipes that were clogged with compacted oak tree pollen pods. The water was back flowing badly. Corrugated pipes or ok but they do clog. Blame it on the installer but in the end, they are clogged no matter how many times you say turbulence.
Would a water slide work better? Or sluices for moving wood with water, seems that would work better.
Thank you for the insight.
Beautiful!
A very good instructional video.
Great video, thank you for sharing, but, how can we know that PVC isn't just as "self-cleaning" without the same test run through it (50ft clear pvc w/ "medium 'rain'")?
Im thinking of burying this underground, for our down spout and sump pump, i was wondering how it would perform if it isnt on a slope, but the sump pump water comes out super strong so i wonder if that’ll push all the debris inside the pipe towards the end?
I am not a scientist, but how is this proof if there is no comparison?
Thanks anyway for the effort to do the video.
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@@FRENCHDRAINMAN still doesnt compare shit lol
Would the cleansing action still work with a pop-up drainage configuration at the end?
are saying you should use this pipe as your outlet run (i.e, no collection of water) out to the street or drain outlet instead of solid pvc pipe?
Heard very good things about your business, and if you are one in the same, recently drove by your place in Almont MI a few days ago. Nicely done sir!
Good job man!
Good to know!
Thank you for sharing this information. I'd be curious to know how long it takes the plastic pipe to become brittle, crack, and collapse due to age and surrounding pressure. I believe that sand stone and finer dirt may complicate matters within this pipe as well.
That is precisely happened to the single wall corrugated pipe buried 3” below the sod! Completely collapsed and caved in ! What a mess
Important point! Corrugated looks fine right off the bat, but where will it be in 20 years? How about 50 years?
The issue with Corrugated pipe is NOT the drainage DURING the rainstorm or rain event. The issue IS the encroachment and compromise of the plants, dirt, and roots that enter into the corrugated pipes to grow and block up the system. How do you account for THAT issue?
Pressure Washer down 1 end?
Every 3mths or so?
I don't Know I don't Own either....
He doesn't account for it. He sells the pipe and moves on. Does the job and moves on. There's always a new victim to swindle.
You are 100% correct - root infestation is a major issue with corrugated pipes! Most home owners can't cut down all the trees - especially the neighbors!
@@Krispy1011 you wrap it in landscape fabric and gravel dummy
@@cryengine_x You can do that and it will help, but roots will go through both over time. PVC is still 100% better, corrugated pipe also gets sludge build up and not too many people will run a drain snake or jet corrugated pipe due to it will be destroyed, and name calling is for low IQ people!
Where can I locate a video showing an outside schedule 40 drain beside my footer?wondering how close to put holes in a 4 inch pipe...and hole size
Lee Haynes buy one piece of Septic Field pipe (triple wall) cut a 10 fter in half lengthwise use the half with holes as a template. Your Welcome and thanks for commenting.
Love it! Thank you! Great video! Awesome teacher. Subbed!
Working on a retaining wall and the more information I have the better. Thanks for the helpful and informative video!
AWESOME VIDEO ! THANKS !
I had to watch this twice. The second time was to count how many times "turbulence" was said. Its 20
Great visual.
You never showed a comparison to pipe that has soothe walls
He don't want to show it sucks. Watch gate city drainage
Agree with this. Should have cut a piece. Of 4" PVC in half and did the same thing.
@@gainsum x¹
Smooth pipe is the way to go. With corrugated it gives more water resistance slowing water down causing sediment build up, the easy water flows the easier it carries sediment away.
My neighbor had a above ground pool up against our fence well it’s not working now it just collects trash leaves yard waste and has disrupted our drainage when it rains well it’s gotten so bad it just stays wet on the side and now in the front, is there something I could do like a French drain or something, I’ve been putting dirt trying to raise the ground between our yards but it’s just too much, my neighbor is a single mom with 3 kids and she says she wants to fix the pool but it will never happen and I don’t want to be that neighbor that’s a pain so what could I do to stop or slow the water down
What was the degree of slope of that clear pipe? I also am curious of rate of flow from that hose? If you put enough hydraulic pressure through there, it will wash away almost anything, that would be true, even push it slightly up hill..........
Thanks you for this video. Love it.
Great video. Makes sense to me.
i have the end of this sticking out the side of my home. is this okay or I should be concerned?
The key is finding the right fabric to cover your pipe....You really need the Landscaping kind that is much thicker and keeps the sediment out....Also a good slope in the beginning of the pipe will move the water nicely when it rains....It doesn't' hurt to add a drain basin at your downspout as well. You can clean all the leaves and debris from that to prevent clogging down the line, just saying...
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Sir, I have a 6 inch dia of 30 meter PVC sewerage line in my house which is broken. If I put this flexible corrugated 5 inch dia of 30 meter pipe inside it, will it work properly?
I would repair the broken pipe with the original material. Engineers spec that pipe for a reason.
I don't understand what made it clog up vs when it did not clog?
How much turbulence does it take to get the action you showed in clearing out that junk?
Are you willing to give some guarantees of mid, dirt, roots etc not getting lodged of installed correctly?
What about in a retaining wall?
thanks for the great info.
Can you help me? I want to run the 4” Corrugated Blue Pipe you recommend but at the end of the run I want to tie it into a 3” ADS Triple Wall Pipe to go to the street through the curb. What fittings would I use to go from Triple Wall Pipe that I would have to cut and put a tee in and the go to the 4” Corrugated Pipe on the outlet of the tee.
Our internal tee fits both 3 inch and four inch. It goes inside 4 inch and outside of 3 inch.
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Excellent
Put some shingle gravel in the mix then watch how clean it stays
What about a demo on the blue pipe with the slots.
I agree with others from experience. Its the sediment that is the killer over time and can't be cleaned out. Also that sediment creates a nice little place for roots to follow and grow, eventually chocking the pipe off completely. Thanks for the video, but time and experience is the true master on this rather delicate subject. Good luck everybody, whatever you choose.
Line the trench with non-woven geotech fabric, lay corrugated perf pipe directly on bottom of trench, THEN add stone to trench, fold fabric over top of stone, trim fabric and staple fabric down with heavy duty landscape staples. Finish off with more stone as needed. Do this right the first time and the drain will last for fu(kin ever. You could add a clean out vent near the highest point of drain pipe for future flush out if necessary. Good luck!
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Could you do a side by side comparison of PVC sewer pipe vs single wall corrugated pipe
Glad to see this, it puts my mind at rest as I put the corrugated pipe behind my retaining wall and later doubted myself and thought I should have used the solid pipes
Question my girlfriends house has a bilco doors when it rains water goes in the basement Also the cellar windows fill up with water I’m watching your videos so I get the gutter drain to a pipe what do you suggest on the water going into the cellar
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Now that's Tubular Turbulence 🤙
You know what's better than a French drain system aesthetically. A rain garden.
Would be nice but if you don’t have the right soil for it, it’s not an option for many.
What about freezing issues? I'm guessing a small amount of water can get trapped in those valleys and can cause freezing issues in certain areas
I would like to see sand and small stones.
L MW Not gonna happen, that will immediately debunk his theory.
That's not corrugated drain pipe?? looks like dryer vent pipe!! I want to get behind your theory but struggling to do so. For me its smooth wall styrene pipe that can be cleaned out and perhaps not as strong, but I believe drains well
About to install one, how do you end it? I wanted to put it towards the road (I live in suburbs, not much grade to my plot) but I don't see how I can have a clear full opening for debris to be deposited.
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Can I buy thes pipe from Lowe's
What about asphalt getting stuck from shingles
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I figured it out. Some of the narration in the video sounds like Ray Liota in Goodfellas.
Nice bucket that’s a good bucket great bucket in-fact
When do you use the ones with holes and ones without the holes?
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Dude, I've been following for a while. You have helped me set up three long french drains that scream. Thanks for the help and info
Everything you threw in there was large and buoyant plus you had a steady water flow. It would have been better had you thrown in some roof grit, etc. Interesting video, nonetheless.
Can you show that exact experiment with PVC to show the difference?
And maybe show both, with a sediment flow test side by side also? (The small particle flow that tends to settle, giving tree roots something to latch onto after sneaking in through slots, which leads to clogged arteries)
..and can you use the good PVC not the cheap thin stuff ..something equivalent to the heavy duty pipe you show here.
I'm just a rookie, so I am truly curious. Thanks!
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@@FRENCHDRAINMAN you're awesome, thanks for taking the time to link the videos. I was tired of searching through the back n forth argument on youtube, looking for a good answer.
I guess i asked the right guy👍🏼
Thanks for the thorough answer.
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So what's your degree that your test is showing. Looks steep to me but I love self cleaning action lol. So when a gold dredge is catching gold its actually self cleaning ripples
Depth pipe is being buried at.
Slope of the run you intend to drain.
Distance of the run. And depth of your frost line are all really important factors in choosing between PVC and corrugated agree with the person that said there's no reason you can't use both in certain circumstances both have their place for cost saving and ease of installing.
One important maintenance factor many guys forget to include is clean out ports especially at multi-line tie-in junctions.
Excellent demonstration, sometimes old myths die hard and it takes a visual example, thanks for the information.
Yea, I was also wondering, what it looks like with some clay sediment or sand? I would agree with you, but it might help defuse skeptics
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I appreciate that it has turbulence from the interior grooves, but we have lots of trees around our place and I imagine that especially small sticks would still get stuck in the interior grooves. I recently came across a video promoting Double Wall corrugated pipe which isn't quite as flexible as single wall, but still has some give and has a SMOOTH interior.
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Does this drain create turbulence?
When the roots get in, thru the tee's, Y's and couplings, then is it over!
And you cannot send a plumbing snake down it!
Also there are dips in the trenches that make saddles in the drain line!
I use 3" ABS pipe for downspouts!