Ride and Review of the Suzuki M90
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Detailed Specs of the 2018 Suzuki Boulevard M90
MSRP: $11,249.00
Engine
1462CC Liquid cooled VTwin wuth 79HP and 96.6 Lb-Ft of Torque
5 Speed Transmission shaft drive final
43MM inverted front fork 5.1 inch travel
Single link coil over rear
Brakes
Front Two-piston calipers, 290 mm disc, twin
Rear Single Two-piston caliper, 275 mm disc
4.8 Gallon fuel tank 55 MPG possible
723 Lbs wet
28.2 Inch seat
Bike was provided by the Suzuki Demo truck at Oklahoma Honda/Suzuki in Del City
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I bought my 2019 m90 a few months ago and I love it. Its my first bike. I have not had any issues with the brakes. They feel great to me. It does not like running at lower rpms.
if you haven't already get a GMan tuner & ATRE delete that will solve that
I used to own one of these and loved it. A few things people buying a new need to know. They vibe a lot when new but smooth out considerably with a few thousand miles on them The difference is night and day. Test riding a brand new one won't give a good idea of how the bike will eventually ride. As a cruiser goes I simply loved mine and looking to buy another one.
Oh I loved this one because of the way it liked to play.
I think you just got used to it lol :)
I've had many many bikes over the years... but this is actually my dream bike
I have a 09 ! Approx 15000 miles. Zero problems great bike!!!
2009 18k miles. Love it. No issues
I rode one. Like it. Comfy. It is a twin that does not like chugging. Change into 3rd at approx 50 MPH / 80 KPH, not before or it shakes as it does not like the really low RPM's. Need about 70 - 75 MPH / 120 KPH before using 5 gear. Super smooth once I remembered to rev it a bit. Liked it because it has plenty of usable power and is a tad shorter & less weight and size than the M109. Viking Overlord Quick-detachable bags work 100% and match the rear section's contours/shape. I imagine replacing the front rubber brake lines with nice black (or colour of your choice) braided lines would firm up the brake feel and performance. I found 2 fingers on the front brake was all I needed & since it is a long heavy cruiser of course applying the rear brake a bit at the same time is what is needed unlike sport-bikes where the front is all that is usually required. I know someone with a black one and many, many people comment about how they really like it. Harley riders stare (in the parking lots and on the HWY's as we pass each other as it may be) as it takes them until their eyes get to the gas tank and read Boulevard before they can figure out what the heck brand of bike it is. Some also say it looks like a bike from the TV show "Sons of Anarchy." LOL
Great comeback, Thanks for sharing the heads up on the bags, I'm very close to a purchase on the bike
This 1462cc engine is a mid compression(9.5/1), long stroke engine with a shaft final drive. IT LOVES THE HIGHER RPM BAND! You can't lug it at low RPM like a Harley. Run it high RPM, like a sport bike....It loves it!
It did indeed love it.
Big thumbs up Bud, Great info!!!!
Absolutely accurate on the rev level. My M90 loves the mid to high end of the rpm spectrum.
Makes for a fun sporty type cruising experience.
i got a '09 M90 a few years ago, it has become my baby very quickly, aside from parts being few and far between(unlike the M109) its a dream!
Well let us hope that it is as reliable as a hammer for you and parts are not an issue. Unless you are speaking about the aftermarket, then lets hope people step up their game! Ride safe out there and enjoy!
@@RabidHedgehog oh its a hammer alright haha, and just parts in general, the 109 is the flagship bike so its showered in parts, the 90 gets "some" but nothing even close to enough to style it like you can with the others..it's a shame but oh well.
I own and ride an M90 2013, and Hog is right on...this Vtwin lovves the higher rpm range. This is a big hybrid cruiser, that wants to be a GSX. I love it, cause no one expects this big Suzuki to run like a scalded ape!
LOL!!!
Thats why I like my C90 with the G Man controller and cobra pipes. Its surprisingly quick and pretty fast. Ive pegged the speedo a few times😵! And almost pulled off a wheelie, unintentionally. Crazy torque. Controller gives a good 30 % more hp & torque
Fantastic review, thanks!
Thank you!
Thank you for the ride/review. (O: (M-90 owner here)
Great review. I have the same style but as a m50 in the UK we call it the intruder M800 / VZ800. I have had it on long runs and short day to day. Great bike with smooth riding.
I watched this video when it came out. Always wanted one but Good God I couldn't find them anywhere. Finally got a hold of a '13 with 2400 miles. I'm in heaven. But it took a lot more adjusting from my old bike to this one. The gear ratio is insane! I've already shredded my back tire with all the engine braking. Problem is my old bike was a V4.
I have the 2013 M90 and I get more complements on it then you can imagine. For a motorcycle that weighs 850 pounds it will definitely get down thanks to the GSXR technology built into it. When it comes to buying accessories for it Saddlebags, Highway Bars and Etc. well good luck finding anything like that or just the parts. I have to get parts out of New York but I love my M90 And for a Super Cruiser it's definitely fast I have had mine up to 150 Mph and still had some throttle left.
M90 weights 723 lbs. M109 is 764
@@brianbalcer Yes it does
My 2013 is a beast.
So I have been riding the vulcan 900 for the past few months. I have actually already started saving for one of these M90s.
I had a vulcan, good bikes too! I think you'd very much like how the m90 rides and handles. Out of all my bikes over the years I've decided it's my favorite cruiser. Used to take it to the strip but now it's set up for long rides, saddlebags and all lol it's a well rounded bike! Think my favorite sport bike was actually my 2000 929 RR, before they started making the new 1000 cc bikes so small like the 600s lol just my opinion though. I lucked out and got a factory beast that was noticeably faster than they were rated ☺
i have a 2009 boulevard M90, i absolutely love it, the brakes do need some work but overall, its a tourque monster, LOVES being spun up, thats for sure haha definately a fun machine
It gives it an interesting charm.
I have same year since new, only 8000 miles on it so far. It really has some high revs for sure! I hit 115 on the open highway a couple times, it is very capable AND comfortable on long trips with the OPTIONAL gel seat from Suzuki.
These bikes smooth out considerably once they have a few miles on them. Once you get 5k on the clock you can use the higher gears at lower speeds no problem
Nice to know. Thanks!
@@RabidHedgehog shame we cant buy new ones here in the uk now
YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT !!!!!
I believe I've watched this once already but wanted to comment on the subject of the front breaks. Suzuki has an adjustment dial that allows you to adjust the feel of your front breaks. I have pretty big hands so I leave mine set on 3.
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Awesome Info!!! on the brakes
I'v had My M90 since 2013. THEE BEST Suzuki Boulevard!
Great machine. Ride it safe!
How do you like it for long rides? Say 400 miles? I currently have a 2011 c50t. I'm not a huge fan for long rides
Thats nuts, my 08 C90 front brakes are very grippy and responsive, found out the first day!😬
I own and have sitting in my garage a 2019 Suzuki boulevard C90 Boss after trading in my 2014 Suzuki C50 Boss back in February. Now I'm dying to get my new baby out and get some miles on her and feel the wind hitting my chest. But my family and me, we live in central NY and Mother Nature is not cooperating just yet to be riding motorcycles. Great job on your video!
Ive got a 2008 C90T. G man controller, pair valve delete and hi flow air filter! I love it, all the power I will ever need, can go fast enough to scare myself! And gets there pretty quick too for a big old cruiser!🤙 Ride safe and enjoy!
Thank you!
Just bought a 2019 M90 and this was one of the VERY FEW video reviews. Winter now. I pick it up in the spring. probably watched this review a dozen times, Thanks. Would love to hear from other M90 owners as to what their experience has been :-)
You are welcome. Agent Toaster has a comment on here that says it quickly became his baby so I believe you have yourself a good machine. When you get it ride safe out there! And if you get a good itch to ride you can always add more layers :)
Hey Rabid....
I bought my 2013 M90 new. I've got 35k miles on her with absolutely no mech or trim problems, servicing at maufac recommended intervals. She was a little too quiet for my taste, I looked at after market exhaust, but they were way expensive. I did some research and discovered that if you drill 6 evenly spaced holes(1/2 inch) in the back plate around the exhaust hole on both tubes, you get a very "snarly" beautiful tone, but it won't piss off the neighbors. I live in a 55+ community, and my neighbors actually compliment me on the beautiful, powerful tone of the exhaust. Quiet when your easy on the gas, but roars when you let her loose.She likes the higher RPM's. You can't lug her like a Harley. She's extremely responsive in the mid to high RPM range.
Fuel mileage is about 40MPG. She handles very well at low and high speed. In lazy curves at 40 MPH+, very stable and solid. At higher speeds, dip in to the curve, but keep your acceleration rate slightly positive to shift your center of gravity to the rear. very important.
There are very few M90's on the road, and everywhere I go, riders comment positively on her sleek and clean lines.
I keep a battery maintainer on her at all times when not riding. This will keep your electronics(including your electronic fuel injection system) healthy. You can pick one up for twenty bucks. Excellent investment. Check your tire pressure at least once per week. I like 36lbs front, 42lbs rear, and I ride solo. She is very sensitive to tire pressure concerning handling.
This is a rider's bike. She handles well with two rider's, but she prefers one. My wife is not offended. My wife is an avid fisherman, and we ride together on very few occasions. What else can I tell you? Oh, The M90, with her 9.5/1 compression LOVES NON-ETHENOL FUEL,90 octane.
I know it's slightly dear, but it's worth the extra pennies per gallon.
Ride proud, ride safe, and stay within the limit of your riding expertise.
Your M90 will take care of you! Please let me know if this info helps!
litltoosee
litltoosee thanks for this! Chomping at the bit to get on her! Can’t wait to feel the torque I’ve heard so much about. I’ll follow suit and post a review when I get out there. Cheers!
@@litltoosee i know this is years later. do you happen to have more info or even a video tutorial on that exhaust modification you are talking about? just picked up a 2019 m90 and my only complaint is that id love it to be a little louder.
@@FluxCapacitardo Hi Bo. The only modification I have made on my 2013 Suzuki M90 is to the twin tail Pipes. I used a 1/4 inch all purpose Kobalt drill bit and drilled 6 holes in each of the tail pipe end plates at 12, 2, 4, 6, 8, and 10 o'clock, picturing the end plate like a clock face with 12 at 0 degrees, and 6 at 180 degrees, circumferically. I choose 1/4 inch holes( I know, you might think that's too small, but..)because I live in an 55+ community, and I didn't want to blow my neighbors out of bed when I rode out on early morning rides, or rode in late at night. also, I wanted to maintain as much exhaust back pressure as possible, so I didn't disturb the bike's brain, but still get a little more crack and rumble. I have had no issues with fuel consumption, backfiring or timing with this modification, and this adjustment gave me exactly what I was after: A little more volume. I did NOT remove the baffles, as many youtube vids will suggest. I have 40k miles on my Sweeti, and she continues to be the finest ride I've ever had, If your 2019 is brand new, you will experience a lot of vibration! After a few thousand miles, this will diminish, but, it is a vtwin, and vibration is inherent. As far as maintainance is concerned, just follow your owners manual, especially your cooling system. You made a smart choice with your new M90. Respect her power, and she will keep you safe.
Hi! thanksfor the review. I had a 2010 for 5 years and loved it. Honestly, the best bike I ever had. I was surprised that you were not overly happy about the brakes on the 2018 model. I am looking to own a bike again and was going to go straight back to the M90, but now I'm wondering.... Also, you said you'd not buy it and that you have other bikes that offer more. May I ask which bike that is?
I agree with Deni....What are you comparing the m90 to????
About the pegs. I changed my mind few years ago because of that problem. It is great for short legged people but for us it is difficult, or legs are at a large side of the tank. We need to install aftermarket pedal control. I don’t know if the Japanese are shorter but they should have thought of it.
Great video thanks for making it. Would you recommend this bike for bigger dudes? I'm 6'2. I have a Shadow 750 and it's way too small for me now that I have a few years of experience.
Keith Threadkell I’m 6ft, 300lbs. Fits me perfect.
Found out the engine fuel cut off is at 7500 rpm !!! Can't do that with most V twins out there that I know of ! That front brake lever has ADJUSTMENTS, the dial is right under your fingers there LOL and would give a better feel to the clamps...
I like it, speedo an lites, nice clean looks, waiting 4 a good side shot. Put a 2ft hi sissy bar for a back-pack an go cross country with it.
I like the way you think! Mine has the saddle bags on it now, set up for long rides. I'd happily ride it from east to west coast given the chance
I think I getting one 👍🏽
I was gonna get the 2018 m109 but I saved 3000 and got the m90 instead and I love it
Like I said I already have the bikes that can do what this does but it is not a bad machine and you ride safe on that bad boy!
Sweet. I want to get one too, is it ok for bigger guys? I'm 6'2.
That's actually what brought me to this video. Was considering an M109 until I started reading more about this M90. For the price difference it seems like a great deal.
First video that mentions the vibrations! Yes, I traded a 2004 HONDA VTX 1309, SMOOTHHHH, so when I drove this one I thought it was broken! Total shaking monster UNLESS you keep the revs very high. That being said. Very fun! Great handling! But be forewarned long gear ratio.
Awesome! I was actually looking at ZX-14R's or Hayabusa's when I saw and bought my M90 instead. Looks amazing and waaay more comfortable. And still has the powerful engine feel of a sportbike! Haven't seen another 90 in my area in the 5 years I've had mine, couple 109s though at the strip... Get lots of compliments too 👍 mine is charcoal grey with microflake.
I have owned 25+ bikes in past 19 yrs or so & I LOVE the M90, which I've owned for about 5 yrs (got a 2013 w/250 miles on it in '15 for under $7 G's at local motorsports dealer, brand new bike basically). It has amazing power even coming from my previous bike, a CBR1000. I don't know what people are talking about when they say it rides rough or bumpy...? Mine is smooth as butter in 5th gear or 2nd gear at 35 mph all day. Maybe rough compared to... a Gold Wing, or an Electra Glide? The ONLY thing that I did on it, early, too, was an Automatic Timing Retard Eliminator a.k.a. ATRE. $50 and 2 minute 'plug and play' install, really makes shifting smoothe and releases even more power in the lower gears. Makes 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd shift really smoothly, compared to stock. Maybe that's the difference? Great video. The M90 will scream and if you're good rider, you can keep up w the 600 sportbikes lol oh, and mine brakes totally adequately, especially for pushing about 900 some lbs with me at 6'3, 200 lbs, on it 😆 If you're coming from a sport-bike and want a cruiser, this is one of the VERY FEW that will keep you satisfied.
It's a great machine and ride it safe!
Can you give more details about the ATRE thing please. And how did you install it? Could you provide a link for it so I can get one ? Many thanks
Does it cause.any harm.to the engine or the ECU ?
@@bob10tn sorry for late reply, Bob. It's literally plug and play, takes 15 minutes, and is completely safe (doesn't change your tune). Anybody can do this one! Suzuki motorcycles have a different ignition map for each gear. In the lower gears, the ignition timing is retarded for no practical reason. The atre sends a fixed fourth gear signal to the bikes ECU eliminating the retarded timing map, creating a more responsive throttle with smoother, faster acceleration and more power in the lower gears. Here's the one I got (on sale for 49 bucks currently) www.gmanindustries.com/shop/pc/ATRE-Suzuki-M90-p763.htm
@@JK-pg8jf thanks Jeff I appreciate your response.
Suzuki builds a good bike. Dependable, responsive, powerful, sexy. M90, very strong. Not a long range bike, likes higher end on rpm, great for city and close country riding, I have a 2013. love it. ride with Harley's all the time.... well respected. I have an excellent rapport with my M90. We ride well together... I don't ask for more than she can give, and she doesn't surprise me with more than I can handle. I get lots of compliments and looks with her. She's my sweeti....
What would be a right price for that M90?
5:13 These bikes really appreciate having less restrictive air filters, they don't get enough air in standard form.
almost all new bikes are like this now. open up that exhaust and intake and your golden on most any motorcycle.
@@todtalk3912 after a remap of course. But my initial comment was about these bikes in particular, they have two 750cc jugs each breathing through an air filter smaller than the size of a playing card.
I had one of these in 2012. Would not recommend over the 109 but it was a decent bike
anyone know if the m90 seat fits an m50 for the 2019 model year?
Sup dude I just purchased the 2013 Suzuki boulevard m50 and boy do I tell you I wish I had the suspension of the Suzuki m90 I test drive both bikes but did not have the money for the m90
I got the 1000 miles on my '19, been having a bit more fun, found out today it will do 70+ in 2nd gear and get there really fast........ I still haven't found where the throttle stops
LOL!!! safe rides :)
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What cost the Suzuki whit landings gear
I have a 2009 and it wants to lift the wheel in all the gears! And I am 62 years old!!
Im very close to getting a 2019. I've had three Vmax's and last bike was a road glide. Basically just a 55 year old weekend warrior here. Only question is the weight and how heavy it is. I know the seat height is low but... Just asking..
2nd review on this bike I've seen alot of helpful comments I'm looking to getting one
It would not be a bad choice.
I've been looking at new ones I like the red rims but want them on the grey bike I got alot of highways up here in nd
This video convinced me to buy mine 2 years ago. 2019 M90. I LOVE it! (a lot of 2009 parts / accessories work with subsequent years. For example I have '2009' Cobra Swepts on mine...perfect.)
I like that black one and have been looking at it. Not sure how I feel about the red rims though. Perhaps a bit too sporty of a look for me.
@@b.runson9719 can you share your experience so far? thanks
109 cubic inches on the M109R!
This one ride better overall
Everything you said during ride is exactly what I felt while test riding it. The only thing that may be missing is maybe that rear brake feels stronger than the front one. That may be a good thing though. I can only imagine crap hard hitting front brakes on this 700+lbs behemoth on wet road. I mean, they work but, they are so soft it almost feels like they don't. My biggest concern was how it would work on steep downhill. The engine brake is fantastic though I and I pretty much relied on brakes mostly for stopping.
Probably scare someone a bit when they first brake for sure. There might be a day where that comes into play and I can test that.
What about simply replacing the rubber front brake lines with braided brake lines? This simple change out helps a lot of bikes. Can select any colour of lines you like.
Human, I don't know. Bikes lose so much value right off the lot that I'm having hard time justifying any major upgrades. Even small ones unless necessary.
My line of thought is that design engineers made certain decisions for reason. Yeah, some are style for non critical parts but, I would be hesitant to mess with brakes as they are the most important piece of machine. It is all about adjusting riding style to machine, not the the other way around. If you need later, better pick different machine.
Not broken in yet vibes will go away n breaks are new Cool Bikes
I did like it very much. It was just a bit different from what I was used to.
would you say that a tightening of the brake cable would have changed how you felt about the front brakes?
Brake cable? It's not a bicycle! The only adjustment is the Lever Throw.
Excessive vibration at lower rpm is because it has hi-test in the tank, put regular in and it smooths out
Same thing with the Yamaha Stryker
But there still is running too slow rpm, just something you will learn
I see. Being this was a demo bike I was never sure of the fuel they put in it.
Interesting observation! I find that 90 octane NON-ETHANOL fuel is the perfect bland for an M90. It's worth the extra pennies/gal!
I have been Seriously.. considering buying the Suzuki c90 cruiser motorcycle. Do you have any feedback on the final shaft drive also, do you have any feed back on the shocks, front and rear? Thank you!
This bike was very plush and I had no complaints on the suspension. It was a soft riding machine. Shaft drive did not have any odd jacking or anything weird and was smooth.
and its quicker, more nimble and sexier than a 109R.....
I’m a first time rider, I have only rode in the motorcycle class.... but am ready to buy a bike. I’m hearing that this bike may be too much for a first time rider. What do you think? Im concerned of the more powerful bikes not being forgiving when making a mistake. I’m open to the M90, the Vulcan 900 and the Indian Scout (which I love the most). I’m 6’1 280 lb weightlifter. What bike would you suggest?
I am looking into the same 3 models. Did you finally buy you one? Any comments?
I was told this would be a good first bike for a big guy(6’3 280)...I wanted the 109r but was told not a good idea. Ride the 90 first for a couple of years then move up.
To be honest if you treat the M109R with respectful throttle input it is easy to handle. It's when you flog it.
Can this bike be ridden by like bigger guys, like 300+ lb guys? And would it be a good starter, becuase im not really into those sporty bikes...
The good sir that rode this one before me was in the the upper 300s even up to 400 and it did good with him. It is a good running machine for experienced and beginner riders alike.
I ride a Vulcan S you guys think going to a M90 is a good option?
It would be surprisingly slower but way more comfy :)
I have a 2013 Suzuki Boulevard C90 - I know this M90 has more power arrr arrr arrr which is great but will I lose comfort upgrading to a M90 over my C90?
I'm about to find out👍🏻
Can you do one on the 2018-2019 M50?
I will try to in July as Suzuki is bringing their truck back. Or if it becomes available at Indian of OKC as a used bike.
What do you guys think of the M90 for a beginner! Originally I love the M109R but I have been told it is not great for beginners! Do you think this is a good alternative?
I'm not very new, but still kinda new, been riding for about a year on a Shadow 750. Was originally looking at the M109, but then stumbled across this M90. The maneuverability and weight of the M109 do concern me a bit though. I think this M90 is maybe a good trade off. It's still really fast but should handle much better, with the smaller, but still large back tire.
M90 is too much for a beginner, back off to the M50 or c50 boulevard. That will give you some big bike experience without so much engine that you wind up killing yourself Before you actually learn how to handle it.
Yeah, please get the 90 first! 109 is no joke!
I know u have done a ride on both the m109 and now the m90 ... does the m109 fill out as well as a cruiser as this .... throwing bags and a sissy bar on it and doing long trips?? Or is it a pure muscle cruiser ... and keep to short trips
Actually there are groups like Corbin and some others that make shaped hard bags that fit the lines of the bike and other manufacturers with some good soft bags and such for it as well as racks and sissy bars. It is able to be converted to touring yes.
@@RabidHedgehog so with all the muscle and and punch and style ... the m109 is still a very capable comfortable cruiser??
Yes it is 😊
I’m really debating a M90 as my second bike. Love my Vulcan, but it doesn’t that power the M90 does.
i have a vulcan 900 and although its actually pretty capable esp when u look at the numbers the little engine produces but my sister just got a new m 90 and that thing rips in comparison and has an extra gear which I wish theyd add to the smaller cc bikes as itd just make a better bike. also not sure why no company does it, but if they made full baggers in smaller sized bikes theyd sell like hot cakes man, blows my mind how little these companies put into a "new" year model. all a new year model nowadays means is a new color scheme and thats it.
Ive been debating on the M90, M109, or the Yamaha Stryker as my 2nd bike. My current bike is a Shadow 750.
@@brianbalcer A Stryker would be a great option too. I'm weighing the idea of having a bike with a fairing too. Vaqueros are nice.
Would you recommend this bike to beginners?
I would indeed! Easy to use power, ergos, and you can grow into it.
@@RabidHedgehog thank you
I am considering this as an upgrade from a Vulcan 900 custom do you think that's a bad idea?
It is more of a lateral move, but I believe that they are a little more sporting in how they are with the higher revs and the little better turning angles. I believe it's also a bit more comfy too.
Can you explain why it would be a lateral move? It's a much bigger bike. What would you recommend then?
Been wanting to upgrade from my Shadow 750. Was first looking at the M109, but perhaps that bike is a little too big and harder to handle with the weight and huge back tire. The M90 seems like a good balance though of power, comfort, and maneuverability. As a caveman, it's hard not to just be bullheaded and want the bigger badder M109. Maybe this is a good choice. I mean... coming from a 750, maybe the 1800cc is too much lol. Also hear the M109 perhaps has some transmission issues. I don't really want to upgrade again, at least not for a very long time. And that would be my only concern with this M90, allthough from what I can see it seems to be plenty of powerful to where an upgrade might not be needed. I'm sure you can get even more performance out of it with an exhaust, air filter, and a power commander or something.... although, living in California that is all illegal and most sites wont even ship to my address.
Brian why is the power commander outlawed in your state ?Thanks Bud
@@kidronreddy1671 In California it is illegal to modify things like exhaust, air intake, and ECU. It is the only state with these regulations.
I'm riding 2009 M90. It is a cool bike.. it is a chick magnet
Im getting a 2009 M90
Buying a 2010 today👍🏻
Hey man I was looking at Suzuki M90 or Indian Scout. You have reviewed/rode both of them so I am interested in your opinion. I used to have a Yamaha R6, so I'm used to fast, I sold that a long time ago. I now have a honda shadow 750, it really comfortable but way to slow. My riding is mostly around town, but I want something that can easily handle 30-1 hr highway rides. I want something comfortable and smooth, I like looking in the mirrors lol. What do you suggest?
Brandon D the Scout is the smoother and faster bike but the m90 is the plush and comfy bike. The Scout suffers from some short rear suspension travel while the m90 has the better suspension but the engine shakes rattles and rolls. This is where preference comes in as if you're looking for the faster of the two and the sportier the Scout hands down. But the leisure ride is the m90.
Couple of weeks ago, I test rode Scout and M90 pretty much back to back. When it comes to engine feel, M90 had stronger initial torque/pull. It can get you to really high speed in the first gear. Scout is also very strong in 1st, but far more reasonable. Like the hedgehog said, with M90 you stay pretty much in first three gears. Scout responds great in all gears and there is no uncomfortable vibration at 70-80mph in 4th and 5th. You do also have 6th for easy ride. Scout is far more nimble and effortlessly zig-zags in small space unlike M90 that is little lazier to turn. Breaks on Scout are great. As for riding comfort, I found Scout seat very hard and uncomfortable. Rear suspension almost non existent. My butt pretty much absorbed any roughness on freshly laid black top. Can't even imagine rough surface. I was also little stretched out (with my 5'10" and 190lbs) M90 on the other hand felt good underneath ass. Both seat and suspension felt much better. Handle bars felt little wide and little too much after while. If the price was same, I think I would like Indian better for its looks, responsiveness and agility but, I would have to do something about seat at least. Maybe even get kit to bring pegs closer. (Bobber has pegs closer but stretches you more.) $14k on the road for either one is way too much in my humble opinion. Seems to be easier to get deal for half of that for M90 with low mileage. M90 would be a temporary toy for me. As for Indian, I would like to keep one in stable but again, not for the full price.
Thanks Rabid Hedgehog, so Scout is smooth bike but bumpy ride, while the m90 shaky but soft ride lol. Well one think I would add is I am a smaller guy, 5,9 170lbs. So I am leading towards the smaller, lighter, none shaky scout.
oknevals thanks so much more the comment. I am a smaller guy 5,9 170lb, so I kind of like the scout since is seems a bit smaller of a bike. Maybe put a better seat on it though, and find one used.
That is a great plan. I will say the stock Scout seat on the original version is better than the seat on the Bobber variant, but they are a bit hard vs that very plush M90.
Good for beginners? Love the look of this bike, a muscle cruiser would suit me more than a sportbike
Yes! It has easy to use power all over and is not over done.
@@RabidHedgehog okay, this or indian scout bobber...
@@Matthew-re9pb ummmmmmm both? So this M90 has a bunch of bang for dollar and is overall more comfy and easy going. The Bobber is more powerful and will definitely kick your kidneys and is more money.
@@RabidHedgehog thank you for the info...couldnt go wrong with any new bike. 🤙
Debating between this, the m109 and HD Fatboy 2018. I had the m50 and it felt gutless and generally cheap with all the plastic. It was an okay starter bike but something about it made it never feel like what I was hoping a cruiser would feel like. The m109R allegedly has a shitty transmission which makes me think if I go with that I need to get a brand new one with the 5 year warranty.
The M109r transmission issues (those where it literally ate 2nd gear), have been taken care of from the 2011 on years from what I understand.
@@RabidHedgehog was gonna say that!👆👍🤙
What? No tach on the M90?
I dont believe there is a single suzuki cruiser with a tach
@@Heeschx3 m109
V twins vibrate period! It's not smooth like a parallel twin. The vibrations comes with it. If someone wants a smooth ride then stay away from v twin cruisers. I have a 09 m90 and vibrations dont bother me. And vibrations isnt the bike telling you that the bike doesnt like it. Max torque is around 2,000 rpms and I promise you it will vibrate.
You don't need the clutch to start in nuetral. I have an M90 and can confirm
I have learned since this video that this is one model that you do not have to clutch. There are several Suzuki models out there that do.
Mine definitely needs the clutch to start
2009 M90
Is this a good beginner bike? And can the seat height adjust
It's a great motorcycle to start with but the seat is not adjustable. It would need a suspension lowering.
@@RabidHedgehog ...not a good idea 😕
Just like the Hondas.... lower gear higher rpm for the bike to be happy
M90 or 109r
109R is a muscle bike and a blast. For everyday though a M90
Looks like you are riding in Southwest Missouri
This is actually Del City/Midwest City/Oklahoma City area. I kind of wish it was SW Missouri as the Ozarks have some way better roads to ride on.
I love riding my m90sin Missouri and Arkansas.
I'm torn between this and 2018 m109... 😔
The M109 is more beastly that is for dang sure. I like them both and if you are going to do some long range rides and cruise this is the way to go. If you are looking for in town bursts of speed and then some medium range cruising the M109 takes it.
Hedgehog said it all, but I am gonna add up a little thing that might makes you stick with this one. M109r has larger back wheel which makes its handling almost a nightmare..hated taking every turn and corner with it. Just remember that
@@bob10tn I agree, a major over look, especially for the novice rider, the 109 can put you into a turn tooo quickly and there is no O S handle on it
@@tomassoyweyvon4902 na I've gone dark side 245-40-18 $40 bucks instead of Metzler $400 on my M90...lasts 4× as long.
The M109 18×10 bolts straight on👍🏻
@@Anony_mutt Good to Know, thanks
Did you find the tachometer yet?
This bike is not equipped. It's bigger brother the M109R does. This simply has indicator lights on the fuel tank.
Hi There from Australia !
Not To bad of a Review ,But would like to know, how Far this Demon or Cadillac would travel on a tank of fuel, at Legal Highway Speed, 110km an hour ?
I am old Dude Now at 68 ,but have ridden bikes all my Life! Mostly Superbikes, Sport, & Super Sport !Japanese, And Italian, Mostly Ducati, From 450Desmo, to 1199Panigale, Just Unreal .
I just rode a M 109R with oversize Tyre on Rear 260 &Thing wouldn't go round corners, but Liked it quite alot ! I did 320km roughly 200mile on a tank at 110 km an hour !But M109r had 19litre tank !M90 has 15.5litre tank ! M90 also has smaller rear Tyre at 200 section !
If Touring must do 300km --- Tank?
Australia, like America, big Country
Will have to Ride one to Be sure !
Thanks again, Cheers again from Aus !
It could do something around 280KM by my math and looking to fuelly to get rider averages for their machines.
@@RabidHedgehog Thank U for giving me feed back on Distance Travelled per Tank ,Eg.(280km)
I very much appreciate your reply to my Question !
All the very best, Cheers Mate !
The M90 has a 4.76gal. tank. I get 160 miles between refuels, with a reserve of approx 60 miles.
I love my M109R I baby it tho
They're a great bike!
You are better off with the M90, i also wanted the M109R But the M90 doesnt wallow out on the bends..The 200 Stock Tyre handles the corners Wayyyyy Better than the Stock Tyre on the M109R...I found...
Bad experience?
Can you push start a Suzuki motorcycle
Technically yes. But must have enough battery power for fuel injection if equipped. If dead dead nothing going to happen.
The M90 is an under valued gem....It is sexy, powerful, rare and unique. I know, I've got a 2013.....
I've owned alot of bikes, but this is the badest ass bitch i've ever spread my legs on.... It is raw, controled power, with an attitude in the right hands....and it will EAT sport bikes when properly excited! but, don't ride beyond your level of expertise....she will turn on you and ask you "are you sure your ready for me?" If your not, she will educate you.......quickly.
Sounds interesting.
Good lord
How fast is this bike? Is it really a power cruiser or is it a retirement stroller? How fast is it at 0-60?
I really like this bike and I collect information. But friend - his sound is terrible. The vibro massage in the driver's seat of my car sounds much more brutal! It's just a baby squeaker (
The M90 is not a power cruiser it is indeed a sit back and cruise machine. 0-60 is not terrible at around 5 seconds.
Alek:
In the right hands, the M90 is a RAPTOR! Tweak the exhaust with a 1/2 inch drill bit in both back plate tubes, and your quiet M90 becomes one of the sexiest snarly motorcycles you've ever heard. In experienced hands, this bike will shame any twin V your up agaist, including the 109R!
@@litltoosee Thanks for your reply, friend!
I bet that one will be responsible for a speeding ticket or two.
Timothy Midkiff indeed it would be strangely easy to do.
Timothy Midkiff I just got a 291. 00 ticket on my m90.
Maybe you need brakes adjusted….
I like your reviews but don't like it when people try to ride side by side in the same lane. Watching this video made me cringe more than a few times, knowing you were concentrating talking about the bike features while getting too close to the group leader. Not a criticum as much as it's a reminder to be safe.
This bike needs a 6 speed transmission.
Agreed!
Negative. She loves the higher RPM range per gear. Don't lug it like a Harley.
dudes going like 60 in 2nd gear and it's doing just fine. 4th gear easily at more than highway speeds. 6th gear isn't needed. It's geared very high and wide