Thanks for this Vid I have a 2024 6.7 cummins and have been waiting for someone to make this video. Drove 2400 miles total on a road trip the DEF cost was ridiculous.
Thank you! Another company says they have an issue with the cruise control working with Aisin transmission and they didn’t have a fix yet. So glad I happened upon your channel!
Make your cab and chassis loud in GA and you are asking for a road side inspection from gdot. Just sayin, could be real expensive. Go for the muffler option.
I’m not saying $6k is acceptable, but remember those kits did not provide an unlocked ECM. Also, the cheaper kits provided the cheapest tuner available.
@@kevindenham5262the tune is trash. I bought this kit and my truck shifts like a 1977 Pete. Spools drops on its face shifts then spools again. Zero performance gain just more noise and terrible shifts
Hey @darkirondiesel. Loving the content. 1 question. Do I need to keep the raceme plugged in while driving? Or can I unplug it when I put the tune? I'm a fan of a clean cab. Keep up the great work!
It would be nice if you could do a 22+ ram delete with HP tuners software. And then give us your thoughts on what is easier to do and what you like more about each platform. Hp tuners might be to involved for some people. But that would make a good video.
Thanks for your super-detailed yet concise videos. I have a 2023 2500 and I am looking to do this same procedure. My question is... if I get a PCM that was pulled from a 2020 do I have to copy the stock 2023 tune from my truck to it before I start this procedure? Or will the 2020 PCM work well enough to get through the programming phase? Following your channel for it's great content :)
I’m all for cleaner emissions, but with each iteration of cleaner emissions, there are diminishing returns. So when is enough enough? I think what is in y today is enough. There are much bigger fish that to be cleaned up, like HFO ocean going vessels.
Well the government clearly doesn’t care about clean air when their diesels have zero emissions and they drop bombs and fly jets and rockets like it’s going out of style. A deleted diesel with the right tuning blows zero smoke.
It's not diminishing returns, it's negative impact. Trucks are getting worse fuel economy, they have more systems, they are more expensive, less reliable, they create more pollution. The only advantage is they don't pollute as much during testing. The pollution is still there and being created, it's just trapped until the truck burns it off or the canister goes to the dealer and they burn it off.
And the owners of the def fluid companies are the middle easterners. It's absolute garbage. When we exited Afghanistan it was OK to leave billions in machines because the middle easterners are not smart enough to keep it running, yet they are smart enough to produce fluids for us to keep our garbage running? Really smart
I currently have the edge CTS3 monitor. Love the monitor. I’m going to delete soon… what’s your opinion of the “raceme” could I still run the edge or what does the “raceme” offer?
Super nice delete! It's always a good day when You can take 500 pounds of un needed junk off a new truck! Looks so much better. Very nice work my friend.👍
I just done the delete on my 2016 6.7 cummins following your video for that. Thanks for the detailed videos it helped a lot !! Quick question, I have the 68RFE and when it shifts to 5th and 6th under more of a load it seems to shift flare and will jump up a couple hundred RPM and then shift. Is this normal during the transmission relearn process? Other than that it drives great !!
@@darkirondiesel thats actually perfect timing I'm hoping to buy a 21 or 22 in the new year. hopefully the newer bottom end will be more durable then the previous generation.
Mrtuning/eoc sell delete kits for them,i loved mine. Dont quote me but i believe they even offered a tuned ecm so you didnt have to send yours out to be bench flashed
Original post (Updated): NOTE, I purchased the stage 3 kit. Truck is a 2023 Ram 3500 6.7 HO, Aisin auto, 4.10 Gears. Having issues with getting the truck to run. Race me tech is in Canada and don’t expect to hear from them for a few hours at least. I will admit I was getting aggravated. They say the race me was not downloaded with the stock ECM before removing. So they wanted me to put the stock ECM back in and download. It was almost instant that it read, so basically, it’s downloaded already I felt, but this is their steps and you have to be patient. Put the new ECM in following instructions & now it’s telling me I need to load the recovery file in PER their instructions, but that doesn’t even pop up on my race me at all. Tried loading the custom tune, truck still won’t start. Disconnect the battery cables for another 30 minutes (they tell you this to reset the ECM). Truck starts for a couple seconds and then dies. I will admit I was getting beyond frustrated mainly because it takes hours to get a call back and you are pacing with a dead truck stressing. Do not expect more than two calls if you start in the am. It’s a VM you have to leave to call you back. UPDATE: So we discovered that my loaded recovery tune was missing about 1/2 the updates. Got that lined out & truck has been running great. We still have a couple programming hiccups. The DPF gauge is reading full and need to see dealer error, although it’s not in the truck. I got tired of delayed phone calls and decided to email because it seemed I was missing steps and wanted to make sure I was following their instructions correctly. After a few emails (still takes a couple hours) a new tune was sent that took care of that but now the DEF gauge reads empty with an error code and the truck doesn’t ramp up in freezing weather. Another tune was sent and then had issues with the tuner over heating and giving me errors and the truck would not crank and check engine light codes that there was no communication with the ECM. That was stressful 4 hours till I heard back from tech! Was no worry though once I got a calming tone of the techs voice that it will work his fix and basically was instructed to put the tuner in the freezer for an hour and run the recovery file. It worked! Then another 1/2 hour in the freezer before loading the custom tune. That worked too! So no fried ECM! They are also sending me a new tuner since I got an overheat code on this one. But basically before I load any tunes, I have to put it in the freezer for an hour. It’s weird but it works. Besides the DEF gauge issue, truck runs smooth and quiet. I have the 5” exhaust and muffler. Mileage is almost doubled empty. I was at 7.9 mph (dually with 4.10’gears, winterized fuel and high altitude) and now am pulling 13.9 -14.2 constantly. It’s also no smoke and very clean tunes. I am adding a Banks or Spelab intake and grid heater delete soon. HERE ARE SOME TIPS TO MAKE IT EASIER AND SUCCESSFULLY DONE RIGHT. WASH YOUR ENGINE BAY FFS! All that dirt and grime falling into the ECM plugs will cause you big problems. YOU DON’T HAVE TO REMOVE THE INTAKE HORN to remove the ECM. It’s way faster and easier and cleaner to remove the driver front tire, remove the fender liner and then just unclamp the boost boot from the intake and bungee cord it up and over. There are some flexible steering lines you can work around and you will have a straight shot window to remove the bolts, disconnect the plugs and the ECM instead of doing it on your head from the top. For higher mileage engines (80k and up), you might as well as replace the factory exhaust manifold because they are usually warped and are leaking. Smedling Diesel is the only company making a HD 2 piece for the 5th gen’s. It’s not cheap but it is robust. Get a SS stud kit for the manifold from a reputable supplier like Spoologic or such. Plan on the factory bolts breaking but with a pic or punch, you can usually spin them out. Use high temp antiseize on the new ones. The felpro exhaust gaskets are the best bet over the factory metal shim ones from all the manifolds I have done. The factory turbo flange gasket is expensive from the dealer but worth it. I reused the turbo studs and nuts (they came off as one) but bought factory replacements in case. Use red loctight on these. The exhaust on these trucks is super easy. Follow his instructions. DYNO DIESEL does not have the blank plug covers available anymore. You can get these from Sunny Diesel in a nice kit. The intake horn top delete cover is not like in the pics. It shows a o-ringed cover. They send a flat cover and factory style gaskets. Mine was damaged and I replaced it with a Sinister Diesel O-ring cover that seals better and is 💯nicer quality. Also just get the valve delete that the boost tube boot goes on. This entire kit is expensive. $35 more dollars is not breaking the bank. Their heater hose bracket is a new style and it’s beyond nicer than the older traditional bracket like in the video. It’s not worth trying to piece meal this kit together. The Stage 3 has everything except you want to add the optional EGT gauge. WHEN YOU GET TO THE TUNER PART, PUT A BATTERY CHARGER OF AT LEAST 10 AMPS ON THE BATTERIES. I had my larger 40 amp float on doing mine. You will be amazed how downloading to the ECM from RaceMe pulls so much power. I even have new AGM batteries and after 2 downloaded tunes the voltage dropped to 11.7v. ALSO, keep that tuner out of the sun and heat when loading tunes. Even after 1 hr in the freezer, it was warm after 8-10 minutes of loading. It almost like a cell phone that gets warm when you are using it a lot. If you get and ERROR 1 with a ❌ that is what it means. THERE IS NO PROVIDED DIAGNOSTIC INFO OR TREE TO FOLLOW. If you have issues, it’s a phone call or email and then a waiting game. You basically are learning hands on with each hiccup that pops up. And you need an updated laptop to transfer files and tunes. The tuner has an SD card in the upper top left corner (looking at the screen). They provide a usb flash drive adapter. You have to be very careful and pay attention when adding or removing times in the correct folders. I messed up dragging the wrong file with a similar name and had to go back and erase and re-download a zip folder they send. MOST OF ALL, the tuner is really not plug and play. Expect a solid week of getting the tunes, the deletes and the warnings lined out. If it’s your only vehicle, plan on having a backup because it may be down for a day waiting on tunes or if you’re having hell removing parts. This way you won’t be stressed about not having a vehicle to drive and mess up things worse. It is worth it in the end. It’s a PITA if you add doing the manifold, but do it once and do it right. Once it’s done is so clean and freed up under the hood & the truck runs so much nicer that it feels like a completely new truck & then you can admire your hard work. 2nd update: after driving about 40 miles the DPF reset to zero and the code is gone. Everything is right in the world and the truck’s running pretty awesome getting about 12 miles per gallon towing a 10,000 pound gooseneck in the mountains.
@@coltencooper5733 yes thank you for reminding me I had this comment here! I updated and added alot more information. I will admit I was frustrated writing the original post as I have a 80k truck not running and about 8k in parts installed 😂. I edited it and posted updates as well as tips to make the job easier. It’s a long post but it’s an expensive job on an expensive truck.
I have a 2022 Ram with the H.O was the delete the same for the standard 6.7? I’m worried about buying the wrong one. I could be wrong but I don’t wanna make a mistake
MY question is what makes this kit superior to the other one that is analog that they have for $2800 why pay 6k for it when is not showing more horse power gains? based on your dyno runs?
That carbon build up is astonishing owners should be able to sue the government for ensuring their trucks will only last a decade if theyre lucky. The government tries so hard to enforce this garbage but street takeovers are still a thing, drive-bys, thefts, and every other dangerous crimes are allowed to continue.
Indeed the only take away from this increase carbon out put I honestly wish we could solve this without be lazy and making the taxpayers pay for it but ya it just proves my point once again we as the taxpayer get fuxked for following the law while those who break them get nothing but a slap on the wrist and is able to do it again and again without any sort of serious repocoutions now I know someone that's gonna read 5his is gonna say but their making new security measure to make sure street take over don't happen and to that I will say it doesn't matter their still gonna happen yes their are people being punished severely but it's not enough especially now
Somewhat unrelated but do the newer 5th gens actually have as much engine failure as ppl say? even when they're maintained well? Love your content, would love to see you do a 3rd gen EcoDiesel
I don’t know man, I think they are pretty solid as long as you keep up with your maintenance. I’d recommend changing the oil when it says 50% life left.
Had this diesel dudes kit installed on my 22 ram. Ran great for 2 months until we had a cold front move in. When it’s below 40 degrees Fahrenheit truck cranks perfect, runs for about 8 seconds. Then cuts off. Says service fuel filter. Had them changed twice. Once temps warm up, truck is back to running like a champ. Definitely something up with the tune. Have spoken to another guy with similar experience in Cummins forums. No response from raceme for either of us… any advice?
Yes, contact RACEME CANADA, they have had this issues with a few trucks. I believe there’s a new tune revision you will have to program onto the truck to fix the issue.
What advantages do you get if you fully delete the truck? Compared to just tuning it & the exhaust. So I'm asking if you leave the egr on what the Difference than removing it on the delete
No DEF to buy, No DEF to freeze and crystalize in a Canadian Winter (which has happened on all of my diesels at some point, the freezing point of DEF being about -13 deg C), better fuel mileage (about 8% on my 2019), better acceleration, better progress through the gears, more effective exhaust brake, lower coolant temperatures - therefore longer engine oil life, no chance the EGR can jam up and cause a complete failure error code, opportunity to get rid of the achilles heel of a manifold heater... It's a list of all good!
You won’t notice much difference if you decide to leave the egr on (unplugged) but it guarantees no exhaust can re-enter the engine. If the egr was functioning properly at the time of the delete it shouldn’t let exhaust back into the engine, but the only way to be 100% sure of it is to remove it. It also opens up the engine bay and gives you more room in there but that’s just a bonus.
2019-2021 ecms should work but if it’s a used ecm I don’t know if this raceme procedure will work. You might have to ship both the doner and factory ecm away
Crazy question but i have to ask if i delete my truck and then a month later take it to the dealership to get a new key fob programmed to it will it mess up the truck and not start it?
No it shouldn’t but I’d always recommend you speak to the service manager and explain to them that they can not alter the program on the ecm in any way like no updates or anything like that
@darkirondiesel yes it is the same exact kit. thank you. I also have code P0254. I'm hoping it's just a tuning issue. The truck seems to run ok, but I don't want to drive it till I make sure it's fine
So if the tune doesn't peg the def gage full bad tuning??? Mine is on empty I paid 5k it been nothing but problems exhaust break doesn't work replaced turbo still not working did the exhaust manifold gaskets whats next help
Empty is fine, some change it to full some change it to empty. And on my personal truck the tune didn’t even change the gauge at all, it still shows the actual level. All I meant was if you tune it then notice the def gauge changed (to full or empty) that’s a good sign your tune worked
In your opinion do you think there will ever be a day where you’ll be able to delete it without swapping the ECM? I’m asking cause I have a 22 megacab with 20000 miles and just wondering if I should ride out the warranty and pray that by the time it’s over it won’t cost me $6000 to delete
Well it took them like 4 years to figure out how to tune the factory ecm on the L5P Duramax engine, so while yes I’m hopeful that one day they will figure these ecms out, you could be waiting a long time.
Nope it should be completely fine. If you ever wanted to you could put your factory ecm back in the truck and reinstall the emission components and it would start right up and run as it did before.
@darkirondiesel but putting just the stock ECM without the emissions equipment will not work, correct?? I think that's what he's asking.. switching between deleted and stock emissions equipment every year would suck
That’s kind of a hard question to answer. Yes, there are a couple companies that claim they can tune the factory ecm with efi live but it’s only for the SO models with the 68rfe, and it’s only a STOCK delete tune. They can’t add any power or tune for any engine upgrades like turbos or injectors. Additionally, there’s a chance you will lose your cruise control along with other glitches. I know a couple guys that have tried it and while it technically does work it usually comes with its fair share of problems. That’s why the ecm swap is still the way to go. As soon as there’s a solid reliable option with the factory ecm I’ll make a video immediately.
The aisin takes a long time to shift well in my experience. One time I did a burnout and it took over 2 weeks for it to start shifting smooth again after. My advice is just drive the truck nice until it starts shifting nice. The aisin has a completely separate computer so the engine tune doesn’t affect it at all. It’s probably Just taking a while to adapt to the increase in power
@@darkirondieseli have it on stock power. I contacted RacemeCanada and we'll see what they suggest and respond with. Pedal becomes completely dead during shifts so I'm assuming it's defueling.
@@darkirondiesel I don't have any power increased. It's on stock power. Pedal goes completely dead during shifts and makes it a rough shift. It's defueling hard.
Valley center has a way to single tune the SO trucks without swapping the Ecm. A video on that would be killer. Also how’s this working with the 23+ full digital dashes in the limited trims?
So nothing against valley Center, I know they are just trying to figure out these ecms and make a more affordable option, but to make a long story short we tried their tuning and it’s just not ready. It’s only stock power single tunes, can’t tune for bigger turbo or injectors, there’s a chance you lose cruise control, it’s just not a good option for people who want to buy a kit, install it and go. The ecm swap is the proper way to do it, trying to use the factory ecm is the “farmer fix” if you will. But we are constantly monitoring the situation regarding tuning factory ecms and the moment we believe there’s a good reliable option out there I will make a video asap.
@@darkirondiesel thanks man, have a 23 limited longhorn with full digital dash, I had a feeling the tech just isn't there yet with getting rid of the def gauge and such.
Question... I know another site offers tuning and delete options for 22+ trucks and basically says, "hey this may or may not work on all trucks, good luck and no refunds after you give us 6k." Can they actually guarantee this kit will work on my 23 cummins?
If you get this kit (I linked it in description) it will for sure work for your truck unless it’s a cab and chassis model, then it might not work. But if it’s a 2500/3500 pickup it will work.
@@darkirondiesel sweet definitely not a cab chassis. Can you leave the egr in place and just run the blockoff plate? I live in Cali so unless I hypothetically register it somewhere else, very realistically might have to swap back every two years
If you want SOTF there is an ECM swap so there is a few extra steps to copy some data over, but rest is the same as 20-21. Single tune is real easy, done through the OBD port.
lol the transmissions aren’t that bad. If you delete your truck then go drive it like a sports car then ya you might have issues eventually with the transmission. But if you drive it responsibly I know guys that have had a 68rfe in their deleted Cummins for a decade without having a single issue.
If you’re goin to all the trouble of deleting your Cummins, why wouldn’t you go ahead and put on an aftermarket intake horn, the plate that the intake horn mounts to (the one that is dropping the bolt into number 6 cylinder) and do a CCV delete??! And why would you go to the trouble of putting in a muffler?
Why? Because all that stuff costs money and money isn’t an unlimited resource. And for the muffler, because not everyone wants a super loud straight piped diesel especially on a truck that spends its whole life hooked up to a gooseneck.
@@darkirondiesel you’d be surprised. A lot of them have either been taken down or they are a super poor quality video that is hard to make sense of. Those and 6.4s just don’t have many vids out there
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Thanks for this Vid I have a 2024 6.7 cummins and have been waiting for someone to make this video. Drove 2400 miles total on a road trip the DEF cost was ridiculous.
Man that engine bay could use a good cleaning, great job and presentation!
Thank you! Another company says they have an issue with the cruise control working with Aisin transmission and they didn’t have a fix yet. So glad I happened upon your channel!
I watched your video on the ram heater delete.. now I'm running banks man wow 👌 thanks you 🙏
Make your cab and chassis loud in GA and you are asking for a road side inspection from gdot. Just sayin, could be real expensive. Go for the muffler option.
Once you finish the install, do you have to leave the raceme tuner hooked up or can you disconnect it??🤔
First step in becoming an EPA Agent, have your nuts removed! 🤣🤣🤣 This is a great video, and Thank you!👊
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People are suffering, people are dying!🙄💀
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As someone doing this on the side to one day open my own place… THANK YOU! Definitely Ordering some gear 🫶🏽
I’d appreciate that brother!
Be careful the feds have hit a couple shops a few days ago plz don't wind up I their sights
Your videos are really well done. Keep up the good work!
Dang! $6k for the kit. I remember when these were $700 kits!
I’m not saying $6k is acceptable, but remember those kits did not provide an unlocked ECM. Also, the cheaper kits provided the cheapest tuner available.
@kevindenham5262 my kit came with that exact same tuner tho lol.
6k canadian
@@kevindenham5262what’s the cost to have a donor ECM shipped and unlocked? Is it worth finding a good deal on a used one and ship it out?
@@kevindenham5262the tune is trash. I bought this kit and my truck shifts like a 1977 Pete. Spools drops on its face shifts then spools again. Zero performance gain just more noise and terrible shifts
Hey @darkirondiesel. Loving the content. 1 question. Do I need to keep the raceme plugged in while driving? Or can I unplug it when I put the tune? I'm a fan of a clean cab. Keep up the great work!
The tunes and delete are written to the ECM so you can unplug it. You just won't be able to change tunes on the fly
Will it stay on the same setting it was on when you unplug it. Level 2-3-4 etc?
It would be nice if you could do a 22+ ram delete with HP tuners software. And then give us your thoughts on what is easier to do and what you like more about each platform. Hp tuners might be to involved for some people. But that would make a good video.
Do you have to leave it plugged into the obd-2 port?
Thanks for your super-detailed yet concise videos. I have a 2023 2500 and I am looking to do this same procedure. My question is... if I get a PCM that was pulled from a 2020 do I have to copy the stock 2023 tune from my truck to it before I start this procedure? Or will the 2020 PCM work well enough to get through the programming phase? Following your channel for it's great content :)
I’m all for cleaner emissions, but with each iteration of cleaner emissions, there are diminishing returns. So when is enough enough? I think what is in y today is enough. There are much bigger fish that to be cleaned up, like HFO ocean going vessels.
Well the government clearly doesn’t care about clean air when their diesels have zero emissions and they drop bombs and fly jets and rockets like it’s going out of style. A deleted diesel with the right tuning blows zero smoke.
It's not diminishing returns, it's negative impact. Trucks are getting worse fuel economy, they have more systems, they are more expensive, less reliable, they create more pollution. The only advantage is they don't pollute as much during testing. The pollution is still there and being created, it's just trapped until the truck burns it off or the canister goes to the dealer and they burn it off.
And the owners of the def fluid companies are the middle easterners. It's absolute garbage. When we exited Afghanistan it was OK to leave billions in machines because the middle easterners are not smart enough to keep it running, yet they are smart enough to produce fluids for us to keep our garbage running? Really smart
@macbook802 that's bullshit dude you have no idea what you're talking about
@@wizard_of_poz4413 and you do? You probably believe everything the EPA and government tells you.
Do you see any MPG increase in 22-24 after delete or is it minimal on modern trucks?
You see an increase it’s just not as significant as it was in the early emission trucks.
What’s your thoughts about the banks horn and grid heater delete?
If you live in a warm climate it’s great. If you live somewhere with cold winters you’re going to have trouble starting it in the cold
Another great video my guy!!
Which one is easier and less expensive to do, the Fords or the Rams?
Not much difference
I currently have the edge CTS3 monitor. Love the monitor. I’m going to delete soon… what’s your opinion of the “raceme” could I still run the edge or what does the “raceme” offer?
Where did you buy the plug kit?
Have you done a before and after dyno pulls with these kits on your new machine?
Filming a review video this week on this kit and I will throw it on the dyno
Do you have to use a tuner when deleted?
Super nice delete! It's always a good day when You can take 500 pounds of un needed junk off a new truck! Looks so much better. Very nice work my friend.👍
Thank you! Always appreciate your support 👊🏻
I’m kind of new to this, but after that install you do not need def fluid correct
@@putawaywet1 Correct👍
Where can I get a delete kit for my 2024 4500 cab n chassis
I just done the delete on my 2016 6.7 cummins following your video for that. Thanks for the detailed videos it helped a lot !! Quick question, I have the 68RFE and when it shifts to 5th and 6th under more of a load it seems to shift flare and will jump up a couple hundred RPM and then shift. Is this normal during the transmission relearn process? Other than that it drives great !!
It's on its way to being garbage
Very helpful and informative. Thanks!
If i found a used ecm to basically take the price of this kit in half would you recommend that or just getting the whole kit together?
Where do I get those sensor plugs by themselves?
Loving the content as usual🙂↕️
Thank you!
Bro i need this done asap i need someone like you to do the work how much would something like this cost in labor?
I have a 2022 ram 6.7l would like for you to do it on my truck I'm from fl I don't know who does it the right way down here
is the 3rd gen 1500 ecodiesel delete kit out yet by any chance?
I think it’s supposed to be out by Christmas
@@darkirondiesel thats actually perfect timing I'm hoping to buy a 21 or 22 in the new year. hopefully the newer bottom end will be more durable then the previous generation.
Mrtuning/eoc sell delete kits for them,i loved mine. Dont quote me but i believe they even offered a tuned ecm so you didnt have to send yours out to be bench flashed
Original post (Updated): NOTE, I purchased the stage 3 kit. Truck is a 2023 Ram 3500 6.7 HO, Aisin auto, 4.10 Gears.
Having issues with getting the truck to run. Race me tech is in Canada and don’t expect to hear from them for a few hours at least. I will admit I was getting aggravated. They say the race me was not downloaded with the stock ECM before removing. So they wanted me to put the stock ECM back in and download. It was almost instant that it read, so basically, it’s downloaded already I felt, but this is their steps and you have to be patient.
Put the new ECM in following instructions & now it’s telling me I need to load the recovery file in PER their instructions, but that doesn’t even pop up on my race me at all. Tried loading the custom tune, truck still won’t start. Disconnect the battery cables for another 30 minutes (they tell you this to reset the ECM). Truck starts for a couple seconds and then dies. I will admit I was getting beyond frustrated mainly because it takes hours to get a call back and you are pacing with a dead truck stressing. Do not expect more than two calls if you start in the am. It’s a VM you have to leave to call you back.
UPDATE: So we discovered that my loaded recovery tune was missing about 1/2 the updates. Got that lined out & truck has been running great.
We still have a couple programming hiccups. The DPF gauge is reading full and need to see dealer error, although it’s not in the truck. I got tired of delayed phone calls and decided to email because it seemed I was missing steps and wanted to make sure I was following their instructions correctly. After a few emails (still takes a couple hours) a new tune was sent that took care of that but now the DEF gauge reads empty with an error code and the truck doesn’t ramp up in freezing weather. Another tune was sent and then had issues with the tuner over heating and giving me errors and the truck would not crank and check engine light codes that there was no communication with the ECM. That was stressful 4 hours till I heard back from tech! Was no worry though once I got a calming tone of the techs voice that it will work his fix and basically was instructed to put the tuner in the freezer for an hour and run the recovery file. It worked! Then another 1/2 hour in the freezer before loading the custom tune. That worked too! So no fried ECM! They are also sending me a new tuner since I got an overheat code on this one. But basically before I load any tunes, I have to put it in the freezer for an hour. It’s weird but it works.
Besides the DEF gauge issue, truck runs smooth and quiet. I have the 5” exhaust and muffler. Mileage is almost doubled empty. I was at 7.9 mph (dually with 4.10’gears, winterized fuel and high altitude) and now am pulling 13.9 -14.2 constantly. It’s also no smoke and very clean tunes.
I am adding a Banks or Spelab intake and grid heater delete soon.
HERE ARE SOME TIPS TO MAKE IT EASIER AND SUCCESSFULLY DONE RIGHT.
WASH YOUR ENGINE BAY FFS! All that dirt and grime falling into the ECM plugs will cause you big problems.
YOU DON’T HAVE TO REMOVE THE INTAKE HORN to remove the ECM. It’s way faster and easier and cleaner to remove the driver front tire, remove the fender liner and then just unclamp the boost boot from the intake and bungee cord it up and over. There are some flexible steering lines you can work around and you will have a straight shot window to remove the bolts, disconnect the plugs and the ECM instead of doing it on your head from the top.
For higher mileage engines (80k and up), you might as well as replace the factory exhaust manifold because they are usually warped and are leaking.
Smedling Diesel is the only company making a HD 2 piece for the 5th gen’s. It’s not cheap but it is robust.
Get a SS stud kit for the manifold from a reputable supplier like Spoologic or such. Plan on the factory bolts breaking but with a pic or punch, you can usually spin them out. Use high temp antiseize on the new ones.
The felpro exhaust gaskets are the best bet over the factory metal shim ones from all the manifolds I have done. The factory turbo flange gasket is expensive from the dealer but worth it. I reused the turbo studs and nuts (they came off as one) but bought factory replacements in case. Use red loctight on these.
The exhaust on these trucks is super easy. Follow his instructions.
DYNO DIESEL does not have the blank plug covers available anymore. You can get these from Sunny Diesel in a nice kit.
The intake horn top delete cover is not like in the pics. It shows a o-ringed cover. They send a flat cover and factory style gaskets. Mine was damaged and I replaced it with a Sinister Diesel O-ring cover that seals better and is 💯nicer quality. Also just get the valve delete that the boost tube boot goes on. This entire kit is expensive. $35 more dollars is not breaking the bank.
Their heater hose bracket is a new style and it’s beyond nicer than the older traditional bracket like in the video.
It’s not worth trying to piece meal this kit together. The Stage 3 has everything except you want to add the optional EGT gauge.
WHEN YOU GET TO THE TUNER PART, PUT A BATTERY CHARGER OF AT LEAST 10 AMPS ON THE BATTERIES. I had my larger 40 amp float on doing mine. You will be amazed how downloading to the ECM from RaceMe pulls so much power. I even have new AGM batteries and after 2 downloaded tunes the voltage dropped to 11.7v. ALSO, keep that tuner out of the sun and heat when loading tunes. Even after 1 hr in the freezer, it was warm after 8-10 minutes of loading. It almost like a cell phone that gets warm when you are using it a lot. If you get and ERROR 1 with a ❌ that is what it means. THERE IS NO PROVIDED DIAGNOSTIC INFO OR TREE TO FOLLOW. If you have issues, it’s a phone call or email and then a waiting game. You basically are learning hands on with each hiccup that pops up. And you need an updated laptop to transfer files and tunes. The tuner has an SD card in the upper top left corner (looking at the screen). They provide a usb flash drive adapter. You have to be very careful and pay attention when adding or removing times in the correct folders. I messed up dragging the wrong file with a similar name and had to go back and erase and re-download a zip folder they send.
MOST OF ALL, the tuner is really not plug and play. Expect a solid week of getting the tunes, the deletes and the warnings lined out. If it’s your only vehicle, plan on having a backup because it may be down for a day waiting on tunes or if you’re having hell removing parts. This way you won’t be stressed about not having a vehicle to drive and mess up things worse.
It is worth it in the end. It’s a PITA if you add doing the manifold, but do it once and do it right. Once it’s done is so clean and freed up under the hood & the truck runs so much nicer that it feels like a completely new truck & then you can admire your hard work.
2nd update: after driving about 40 miles the DPF reset to zero and the code is gone. Everything is right in the world and the truck’s running pretty awesome getting about 12 miles per gallon towing a 10,000 pound gooseneck in the mountains.
Any progress?
@@coltencooper5733 yes thank you for reminding me I had this comment here! I updated and added alot more information. I will admit I was frustrated writing the original post as I have a 80k truck not running and about 8k in parts installed 😂. I edited it and posted updates as well as tips to make the job easier. It’s a long post but it’s an expensive job on an expensive truck.
I have a 2022 Ram with the H.O was the delete the same for the standard 6.7? I’m worried about buying the wrong one. I could be wrong but I don’t wanna make a mistake
@ email Dyno Diesel. They’re very responsive. They’re the ones I got my kit from.
Im also having issues with the ecm, not showing write recovery files at all.
MY question is what makes this kit superior to the other one that is analog that they have for $2800 why pay 6k for it when is not showing more horse power gains? based on your dyno runs?
Can we get a video of performance change after the delete. I’ve got that exact same pickup. Except mines a 23
I’m doing a review video on a deleted 2023 ram this week with this exact delete kit
@@darkirondiesel reeeal good. Thanks
Great videos man. I so wish this wasn't illegal in the USA... I have a 21 Silverado 3.0 that I'd love to so this on. but epa.. yeah... sucks..
That carbon build up is astonishing owners should be able to sue the government for ensuring their trucks will only last a decade if theyre lucky. The government tries so hard to enforce this garbage but street takeovers are still a thing, drive-bys, thefts, and every other dangerous crimes are allowed to continue.
Indeed the only take away from this increase carbon out put I honestly wish we could solve this without be lazy and making the taxpayers pay for it but ya it just proves my point once again we as the taxpayer get fuxked for following the law while those who break them get nothing but a slap on the wrist and is able to do it again and again without any sort of serious repocoutions now I know someone that's gonna read 5his is gonna say but their making new security measure to make sure street take over don't happen and to that I will say it doesn't matter their still gonna happen yes their are people being punished severely but it's not enough especially now
Somewhat unrelated but do the newer 5th gens actually have as much engine failure as ppl say? even when they're maintained well?
Love your content, would love to see you do a 3rd gen EcoDiesel
I don’t know man, I think they are pretty solid as long as you keep up with your maintenance. I’d recommend changing the oil when it says 50% life left.
Had this diesel dudes kit installed on my 22 ram. Ran great for 2 months until we had a cold front move in. When it’s below 40 degrees Fahrenheit truck cranks perfect, runs for about 8 seconds. Then cuts off. Says service fuel filter. Had them changed twice. Once temps warm up, truck is back to running like a champ. Definitely something up with the tune. Have spoken to another guy with similar experience in Cummins forums. No response from raceme for either of us… any advice?
Yes, contact RACEME CANADA, they have had this issues with a few trucks. I believe there’s a new tune revision you will have to program onto the truck to fix the issue.
@@darkirondiesel thank you for the response boss man. I’ll reach out to them in hopes for a solution. Keep the videos coming
What advantages do you get if you fully delete the truck? Compared to just tuning it & the exhaust. So I'm asking if you leave the egr on what the Difference than removing it on the delete
No DEF to buy, No DEF to freeze and crystalize in a Canadian Winter (which has happened on all of my diesels at some point, the freezing point of DEF being about -13 deg C), better fuel mileage (about 8% on my 2019), better acceleration, better progress through the gears, more effective exhaust brake, lower coolant temperatures - therefore longer engine oil life, no chance the EGR can jam up and cause a complete failure error code, opportunity to get rid of the achilles heel of a manifold heater... It's a list of all good!
You won’t notice much difference if you decide to leave the egr on (unplugged) but it guarantees no exhaust can re-enter the engine. If the egr was functioning properly at the time of the delete it shouldn’t let exhaust back into the engine, but the only way to be 100% sure of it is to remove it. It also opens up the engine bay and gives you more room in there but that’s just a bonus.
What about a throttle vale delete
Nice! Glad I have a 06, man I want a new truck but don't want to deal with all that shit...
Have both
Do you think a 2020 ECM could be used as the doner in a 2022 to delete it or does it have to be a 2021 ECM?
2019-2021 ecms should work but if it’s a used ecm I don’t know if this raceme procedure will work. You might have to ship both the doner and factory ecm away
How many miles were on that? That carbon in the intake makes me sad. Gotta get this for my 23
There isnt a write recovery file on my tuner when i click ecm, anyone have the same issue?
Crazy question but i have to ask if i delete my truck and then a month later take it to the dealership to get a new key fob programmed to it will it mess up the truck and not start it?
No it shouldn’t but I’d always recommend you speak to the service manager and explain to them that they can not alter the program on the ecm in any way like no updates or anything like that
Can you do a video on a 24 ram 2500 with the hp tuners and delete.
What do you mean? If you have a 2024 you gotta buy this kit and it’s exactly the same to install it. There is no HP tuner delete for these
I have a service electronic throttle control light on now any ideas,
If it’s this exact kit in the video call raceme CANADA on Monday they can get it sorted out
@darkirondiesel yes it is the same exact kit. thank you. I also have code P0254. I'm hoping it's just a tuning issue. The truck seems to run ok, but I don't want to drive it till I make sure it's fine
Thanks for your time & Vid
Great video, very easy to follow and thorough. Wish the kit wasn't 6K US !!
Yeah it sucks that these new trucks require an ecm swap. It more then doubles the price of the kit for the 2019-2021
@@darkirondieselWhat do you mean exactly?
4283 American money. 6000 is Canadien
Nice vid. No bs🤟
So if the tune doesn't peg the def gage full bad tuning??? Mine is on empty I paid 5k it been nothing but problems exhaust break doesn't work replaced turbo still not working did the exhaust manifold gaskets whats next help
Empty is fine, some change it to full some change it to empty. And on my personal truck the tune didn’t even change the gauge at all, it still shows the actual level. All I meant was if you tune it then notice the def gauge changed (to full or empty) that’s a good sign your tune worked
In your opinion do you think there will ever be a day where you’ll be able to delete it without swapping the ECM? I’m asking cause I have a 22 megacab with 20000 miles and just wondering if I should ride out the warranty and pray that by the time it’s over it won’t cost me $6000 to delete
Well it took them like 4 years to figure out how to tune the factory ecm on the L5P Duramax engine, so while yes I’m hopeful that one day they will figure these ecms out, you could be waiting a long time.
No shipping to CA.
It’s truly sad that I have to say , Thanks Canada the land of the free ish for letting our trucks remain good
Do u think this could mess up the truck if I swapped between tuned ecm and stock every year to get a sticker?
Nope it should be completely fine. If you ever wanted to you could put your factory ecm back in the truck and reinstall the emission components and it would start right up and run as it did before.
@darkirondiesel but putting just the stock ECM without the emissions equipment will not work, correct?? I think that's what he's asking.. switching between deleted and stock emissions equipment every year would suck
If he just put the stock ecm in the truck and left it deleted it should still start but it’s going to have a ton of codes and be in limp mode.
can't you tune the new ones with efi live without changing the pcm now
That’s kind of a hard question to answer. Yes, there are a couple companies that claim they can tune the factory ecm with efi live but it’s only for the SO models with the 68rfe, and it’s only a STOCK delete tune. They can’t add any power or tune for any engine upgrades like turbos or injectors. Additionally, there’s a chance you will lose your cruise control along with other glitches. I know a couple guys that have tried it and while it technically does work it usually comes with its fair share of problems. That’s why the ecm swap is still the way to go. As soon as there’s a solid reliable option with the factory ecm I’ll make a video immediately.
Do you think a 2020 ECM would still work?
I deleted my dodge & it still knows its on a hill and derates the truck to a certain speed. I have the cab & chassis & manual trans.
How does that Aisin shift? Mine is terrible. Same tuning.
The aisin takes a long time to shift well in my experience. One time I did a burnout and it took over 2 weeks for it to start shifting smooth again after. My advice is just drive the truck nice until it starts shifting nice. The aisin has a completely separate computer so the engine tune doesn’t affect it at all. It’s probably Just taking a while to adapt to the increase in power
@@darkirondieseli have it on stock power.
I contacted RacemeCanada and we'll see what they suggest and respond with.
Pedal becomes completely dead during shifts so I'm assuming it's defueling.
@@darkirondiesel I also lost cruise control after tuning. I emailed RacemeCanada.
@@darkirondiesel I don't have any power increased. It's on stock power. Pedal goes completely dead during shifts and makes it a rough shift. It's defueling hard.
Just to confirm you can leave the whole Egr intact and just remove the exhaust?
Yes you can, just unplug the egr and the throttle valve if you’re leaving it on.
@@darkirondieseldoes leaving the egr on instead of removing it have any performance effects? Or is it just a visual thing to clean up the engine bay?
@@darkirondieselwhat happens if you running the truck with them connected?
Race me tunes any good ?
You are my hero
yo your saskatchewan! im ontario not to far apart! would you be the guy to come to for this? need some one close an knows what there doing ! lmk
Valley center has a way to single tune the SO trucks without swapping the Ecm. A video on that would be killer. Also how’s this working with the 23+ full digital dashes in the limited trims?
So nothing against valley Center, I know they are just trying to figure out these ecms and make a more affordable option, but to make a long story short we tried their tuning and it’s just not ready. It’s only stock power single tunes, can’t tune for bigger turbo or injectors, there’s a chance you lose cruise control, it’s just not a good option for people who want to buy a kit, install it and go. The ecm swap is the proper way to do it, trying to use the factory ecm is the “farmer fix” if you will. But we are constantly monitoring the situation regarding tuning factory ecms and the moment we believe there’s a good reliable option out there I will make a video asap.
@@darkirondiesel thanks man, have a 23 limited longhorn with full digital dash, I had a feeling the tech just isn't there yet with getting rid of the def gauge and such.
Why not get the Government ECM? They don't have the stuff that's required by the public?
It’s a manipulated base file from Argentina
@@mitchelldarnell5334my squadron has a Duramax with full emissions system in tact and gov plates. Not all there stuff is emissions free
needs a monster ram and banks big ass air box
A nother great video.
Question... I know another site offers tuning and delete options for 22+ trucks and basically says, "hey this may or may not work on all trucks, good luck and no refunds after you give us 6k." Can they actually guarantee this kit will work on my 23 cummins?
If you get this kit (I linked it in description) it will for sure work for your truck unless it’s a cab and chassis model, then it might not work. But if it’s a 2500/3500 pickup it will work.
@@darkirondiesel sweet definitely not a cab chassis. Can you leave the egr in place and just run the blockoff plate? I live in Cali so unless I hypothetically register it somewhere else, very realistically might have to swap back every two years
Why is he changing the ecm?
2022-2024 can't be cracked for tuning (they can for single tune emissions delete but not for shift on the fly tuning or for more HP)
@@ryanmitchell4266 I was just wondering , I just bought a 2013 and was hoping I don’t have to change ecm to delete egr
@@calebcaleb5603 you're fine on a 2013 - only 2022-2024 require an ECM change
Awesome!! Any idea when you will have the video out for the tuning of a 2022 Ford F250 6.7???
I’m hoping in the next couple months but it’s very similar as the 20-21 video I made
If you want SOTF there is an ECM swap so there is a few extra steps to copy some data over, but rest is the same as 20-21. Single tune is real easy, done through the OBD port.
Thank you kindly Sir!
If I have a banks monster ram and ram cold air intake already in my truck will doing this delete still work?
Yup it will work fine
If only I had 6k laying around 😢
Need help can anyone assist me with tuning when the vin
Not coming up correct for ecm
My god man, some simple green and a water hose would have went a long way lol
😂
Why is this kit 6k and that other one are 1.6k ?
Do they sell the kit with 5” exhaust?
If you call them I’m sure they can get you it with a 5” exhaust just make sure you let them know I sent you and they will take care of you.
Can you do a Coolant bypass for 6.7L? fleece
According to Dave's auto it's a terrible mod to do
God bless you sir
i hear ecu from aliexpress works as well and ppl only spent 1k.
Sounds made up
I would like you to delete my 2022. How do i get in touch?
Sorry man I’m not a shop or anything I only make the videos for UA-cam
If I bring my truck to you can you do a delete for me? im in manitoba
Great video I recently got a price on my 2024 for 10 k
Yeah they ain’t cheap with that ecm swap but the kit I linked is like 6k USD
@@darkirondiesel this guy told me I have to do the transmission because I have a 68 ?
What do you mean “do the transmission”? Like tune the transmission? This kit comes with trans tuning for the 68rfe models
@@darkirondiesel this guy told me trans needs to be rebuilt because of the problems the 68 has the truck only has 3000 miles
lol the transmissions aren’t that bad. If you delete your truck then go drive it like a sports car then ya you might have issues eventually with the transmission. But if you drive it responsibly I know guys that have had a 68rfe in their deleted Cummins for a decade without having a single issue.
Jesus Christ...glad I got a Ford....that's nuts....hate to see how you have to do a GMC.
Nice work sir. Aloha.
Good video
Get some 180 thermostat
My 24 is deleted without a ecm swap and with a 60hp tune...
What company
@@motokid4990 boost garage.
@@motokid4990 boost garage
Find it amazing you have a shop and have no clue how the modules work. You think that scanner read bcm? Lol.
Get rid of that grid heater!
It's easy
He lives in Canada bro, definitely need a grid heater
@@MrSpccdavid Plug it in. Also there are better options than the one he posted. Banks has a really nice replacement package
@@lt4753 dude stop pushing that crap. The banks intake is a massive waste of money
@@wizard_of_poz4413 opinions vary
If you’re goin to all the trouble of deleting your Cummins, why wouldn’t you go ahead and put on an aftermarket intake horn, the plate that the intake horn mounts to (the one that is dropping the bolt into number 6 cylinder) and do a CCV delete??! And why would you go to the trouble of putting in a muffler?
Why? Because all that stuff costs money and money isn’t an unlimited resource. And for the muffler, because not everyone wants a super loud straight piped diesel especially on a truck that spends its whole life hooked up to a gooseneck.
You should do a 6.0 delete vid
On the egr? There’s gotta be tons of videos out on that thing already it’s so old
@@darkirondiesel you’d be surprised. A lot of them have either been taken down or they are a super poor quality video that is hard to make sense of. Those and 6.4s just don’t have many vids out there
@@darkirondiesel Americans are too scared to make as clear video as yours lol
EPA open up! (Kicks door down)
No EPA for our northern neighbors
@@MrSpccdavid true, it was just fun to say.
Anyone know this is “legal” in Ontario? i have a 22 cummins HO for work and want to do this as soon as the warranty expires
Fuckin he'll now all we have left is the updated chevy/ sierra l5p gen2 duramax
WHY HASNT THERE BEEN A RECALL OF THESE STUPID DEF SYSTEMS?
You actually increase power and fuel efficiency by not deleting the emissions. And the EPA will fine you $$$$$$ . Go to banks power .intake horn,boost tubes, air box. Idash,pedal monster, inline turner.
Banks is so overrated
@@darkirondiesel have you seen the loc jaw duramax they did?
@@darkirondiesel Some of it... Their Monster Ram intake with replacement intake heater is a good bit of kit - plus you then delete it!