I live in Pennsylvania and am thinking about a 3500 Duramax brand new would you delete it if it was you I don't know anything about a diesel never owned one
I'm in ky . I have a 2018 3500 Cummins. I want to fully delete everything. Def is costing a fortune. What should I buy and where?? I subscribed your channel
I followed your video as best I could and deleted my 2014 Cummins this week. Waited for the warranty to expire. Installed EFI Live tunes, S&B Cold Air Intake, deleted CCV, DEF and EGR. Thanks for the video! Extremely helpful!
Gotta correct a couple things on the oe emissions side. The dpf is for particulate matter(soot). The regen process raises the temp in the dpf to burn off that soot. On Ram trucks, this is done if too much differential pressure is sensed across the dpf and on an engine hours basis. On my def equipped trucks, this was about every 24 engine hours. On my pre-def Rams it was less than every 10 engine hours. DEF is injected into the catalyst after the dpf & is not used for cleaning the soot or in the regen process in any way. It reacts with the catalyst to remove NoX emissions. This allows for less egr to be used on def equipped trucks. Less egr = less soot= less regen’s.
I have an 2011 f350 6.7 non-delete with nearly 400,000 miles on it and no issues other than a starter, oil pressure sensor, small radiator leak from a round rubber gasket that broke.. truck runs great with tons of power and torque and wants to keep going..
Just finished a full delete on my LML. Used your videos and info a ton. Then had to replace my turbo 3 weeks later due to leaking seals putting oil into the exhaust. I was able to do it myself with Dark Iron Diesel videos! You’re the man. Buying some merch for sure.
Another tip I would give along with the three you mentioned is upgrading the cold air intake. Thank you for your contribution. It’s stuff like this that really helps people understand! 👍🏻
I came across your video looking up pros and cons of egr deletes on gas cars. I hit like because your video was well-informed and you passed that on. Also, I’m Canadian, and I like Canadian content. I had a diesel but sold it after too many check engine lights all emissions related; nothing to do with drivability. All were going to cost thousands so I unloaded it. If I did buy a diesel truck or car again I’d look for pre 2008 or whenever DPFs or DEF came out, no matter the miles. I’m in favour of clean air but I confess to liking the smell of unprocessed diesel exhaust since it reminds me of trains.
love canadians,love clean air as well,practically every different diesel from my childhood smelled different.THE TECH WILL IMPROVE FOR THE COMBUSTION OF HEAVY FUELS( look what they have done for the gassers) no one likes to breathe soot( although it tends to settle out rather quickly) the high combustion temps of the diesels were noted early on( that's when they were said to burn air(nox) and that's the reason for the urea reactors,as the tech improves diesels will be around forever because they are simply the best for certain apps,courage pilgrims don't fall into that $10.000 fine trap.Oh yes they have real torquey gassers now,but they will never give diesel economy,when diesel fuel falls back to the price it should be long live the heavy fuelers!
I understand that by deleting voids warranty but aren't most of the problems you're going to have that you would use warranty for have to do with the whole emissions system?
That the stealerships won't cover cause they know they're junk, and make the consumer pay out of pocket for and have the $100k truck down for weeks like he said in the video. I have a 2015 lml and I deleted it and it gets way better fuel mileage than it did without the tune... So I'm a little confused as to him saying it doesn't get much better. Only think I could think of is, if you're on the go button more often than not them ya, going to not get the best fuel mileage, but if you chill with the go button it gets way better, especially if you drive in the top tune all the time. 🤷♂️EPA & GOVERNMENT messing everything up as always. Let mechanics handle mechanics stuff and let cooks handle food stuff and don't let the FDA handle food and drug and don't let government in our lives other than for war from other countries other than that, they are not needed.
I'm building an lly. Not for big power. But reliability. Being a truck driver. That egr valve was the first thing to go. Emissions crap has left me stranded more times then I can count.... This will be my first diesel pickup though. Fingers crossed Also. Then engine was plugged nearly solid with soot. 500k km's on the odometer. Here's to a million more
@@Yippa391 That's why I still love my 2004 6.0 Powerstroke. Bought it back in 2010 and EGR Deleted it and head studded it and it's been an absolute gem of a truck!!
Drive an ‘03 6.0. I’ve had it since ‘08. I will continue to do maintenance early, to my “upgraded” EGR, studded motor. New trucks look so nice, and I could go buy one with cash, but I’ll stick with my old truck. Runs great, still sounds and smells like a diesel should. Sad where diesel trucks have gone smfh. Good, somewhat accurate video dude. Funny you had to explain what “deleting” is. And yes, you should do it, if you want a diesel that will last and not break down all the time. Or, you can go spend $80k on your new loaded truck, that runs like shit after a few months of spending tons of money on shit fuel, shit DEF, and additives for oil and fuel. Cheers to the EPA (in the US).
I have a stock 2007 6.0. 90,000 miles. With a turbo back exhaust system. Not sure what that means. It’s feeling gutless these days. What should I do or delete, do you recommend?
Def is added to the exhaust to work in conjunction with the egr and the cat to reduce NOx emissions through selective catalytic reduction, thats why the def system is sometimes called the scr system. its not for cleaning the particulate filter, the truck either cleans that through passive regeneration (naturally high egt to burn the soot out) or active regeneration (artificially high egt from extra fuel being added to the exhaust stroke) if theres too much soot load on the filter and not enough passive regen. but yah def fluid isnt for the filter and the reason it helps with performance like fuel mileage is because the engine can use less egr to reduce nox emissions which hinders power and efficiency and instead pump def into the exhaust to catalyze the nox.
@@darkirondiesel Please do not thank me for you stating that you will pass along what you know. You made it clear for each person to do their own research. I simply like the raw, camera moving while you walk and talk and kept it real. You didn't once lie or become biased. Just, keep doing this and all is good. No matter what you know or say somebody will try and out do you or prove you wrong. These people suffer from tiny sword disorder. Probably don't even own diesels
This help a late,I don't think I will ever delete I got a 2016 ram 3500 dully, an I pull campers for aliving,all over the world, an I've got 465938 miles on my Ram an still get 9 to 10 gallons a mile,an thats pulling a 37 ft ,up in mountains wy,an AZ,MT.an I get 15.6 to 18 mile a gallon not pulling so ill keep mine as is.ty for sharing
DEF does not burn, it is intended to act as a catalyst to allow the Catalytic to do its job, the Particulate filter relies on high temps generated by inject diesel directly into the exhaust to regenerate
I know this is not a buy and sell site,I have a cherry95 GMC LONG BED FOR SALE 2100$ nobody around here seems to want this thing great apolcylpse truck, you have a fantastic site and very good advice
Hey video thanks for posting this and sharing. This world is true still pretty quiet no one really wants to give any information out about this. Deafly will be deleting my truck once I hit hundred thousand miles on this motor. The EGR system is such garbage and the fact that the DEF system is too.
No matter how you look at it the DPF systems are here to stay and the penalty is steep if you remove it. If you want a diesel pickup you just have to deal with it. A friend runs a stealth tuner that’s designed to work with DPF emissions system. If I buy a new one down the road I’ll just run the stealth tuner with DPF system. Power and mileage increase can be pretty substantial after deleting.
Ya like I say in the video, you can still tune a truck with emissions and gain fuel mileage and power while leaving the dpf intact. It’s definitely the way of the future.
Deleted my 2015 duramax because it was cheaper to do the replace the faulty egr ... didn't get any gains in milage .. but gains knowing I don't have to deal with Emmons failures in the future. Lol
After a stuck egr valve a plugged off dpf filter a def heater, def pump and worsening mileage I deleted everything and went to a 4” turbo back system , the truck is running better than new.
I will tell you this every 5000 miles the Converters would plug up, so it was replace under Warranty then when went out of warranty at 36,000 miles and the dealership wanted $7000. To replace them again soon told them well I will take care of that problem. Now my oil is absolutely Clean for every Oil Change. The Truck runs perfect now. I had 5” installed now at 180,000 miles it gets 24 Miles per Gallon. Plenty of power, Less Oil changes because its black. My truck is bad ass.
Egr is the reason i change my oil every 5000km on my 2018 f350. Even at that interval i still use rotella t6 5w40 and archoil ar9100. I also put in a double dose of archoil ar6200 every time i fuel up. I also make sure to kick in the high idle whenever the truck is going to be idling for any amount of time after it is warmed up. I do everything i can to keep the level of soot to a minimum
That’s not how the emissions system works and DEF isn’t injected into the DPF. The SCR after the turbo is the first step and that’s what the DEF is injected into. Also current diesel engines still regenerate by heating the DPF.
on my ford 6.4 I did it the wrong way. I was to put on the dashdac pro then scan then delete the exhaust DPF. well, I had taken all that off then I scan it after I had already removed it all plus I didn't have the O2 plugged in when I scanned it. I set it at 650hp after the scan. then plugged in the O2. i was averaging 30MPG. this was my first time doing it and thats why I didn't do it right. I wanted to get all the parts in first. I didn't read the install directions first. well, I have other buddies that did it right they followed the install guide. they don't get the MPG I do. food for thought I guess.
Great video. I learned a lot on this now. I wish I watched this while I went to look at a duramax. Thought guy was lying about the tune for delete and why it was only running 40mph. I lost out on nice truck.
Bought a brand new F250 here in northern VA. This place has so many regulations and vehicle taxes I couldn’t delete. Now I’m leaving my wife and heading to Florida, so I can probably look into deleting my big baby F250. I wonder if it would save me gas? 🤔 I’m curious 👀
The US even blacklisted the VW car engines after 2006 when Europe continued to use them. Remember the diesel rabbits that could get 60 mpg and last 300K? My 2009 Jetta was recalled d/t the defeat software lawsuit - great car, but the lobbyists ended it. How much pollution are we talking from a 1.9L engine getting over 50mpg??
Thanks For the Video, just got a 22 Denali L5P Duramax its way too quiet, want some noise, and exhaust shops say will still be quiet due to DPF, I feel stuck, not sure what to do!
Deleting your diesel is the best way to make the engine go for 600k+ miles. The ONLY cons are legislation related. If you think dealerships steal your money, the government will steal it and throw you in jail along the way.
Out of control government is the biggest reason to delete your truck. If no one pushes back they will push even harder and faster with their regulations and laws
Love this comment.... The realest I ever heard. Trucks don't need that. That's choking these trucks. They want to control... Man what about ships and planes chemical plants? They wide open.... Smdh
@dontfit6380 actually pushing back can lead to retaliatory regulations, laws, and increased penalties. The best form of pushback is when it is undetected, up until nearly everyone has done it. If by the time daddy finds out, they find out only 10% complied, they're far less likely to try and punish those who didn't. But if you rebelliously just do it yourself and flaunt it, you'll get busted and make things worse for everyone.
Unfortunately, you have to do it all, or nothing. There are so many sensors involved, just doing the tune, or removing the emissions items individually would cause other issues. Removing/upgrading the physical "parts", allows the engine to breathe/operate normally... Re-tuning the computer tell it "everything's fine, nothing to see here."
Def is not used to burn out the DPF.... def is for the SCR which in return lowers the NoX out of the exhaust..... to burn out the DPF the engine uses diesel injected in to the exhaust before the DOC to heat up the exhaust to burn the soot build up in the DPF.....
Liberal alert ☝️. If diesels are so bad and global warming is such a serious problem and oceans are rising. then why do all the top democrats own beach front houses. Seems like a bad investment
Jim Matteo diesels are more efficient than gasoline engines. Every engine should be a Diesel engine. If you have the correct air/fuel ratio they don’t pollute that much. My older 2007 diesel truck makes absolutely no black smoke. Not even under load or hard acceleration. NOX isn’t a problem unless you wrap your mouth around the tailpipe with the truck running. I’m a regional supplier for GM dealers and each dealer on average orders at least one DPF system each week. That tells me all I need to know about how unreliable it is. If the truck isn’t under warranty open up the wallet when the part numbers fly.
I have a 2015 freightliner sprinter with 178k miles...on 9/19/22 I was on the hwy doing about 60mph and all of a sudden a light popped up on the dashboard that looked like an ice cream cone surfing on water with 2 water droplets on top....i connected my scan tool and it gave me a code P13DF00 and then the van said I had 9 starts left... I searched around and found a euro mechanic and we got the talking... he said he knew a guy that knew a guy that can delete the def system... I agreed.. I had no choice... 🤷🏼♂️ the damn van was telling me I had 4 starts left!..... so I took the truck in yesterday 9/20/22 and he called me this morning 9/21/22 and said the truck is ready.... yaay!😃
Warranty part is not true at all, did it years ago to my 2017 and still took it in for repairs as long as the delete did not cause the issue they will repair and keep warranty, any recalls you have they will still fix aswell
Hey. 2019 Cummins, is it ok to just delete the DEF and DPF portion of exhaust with the proper pipe piece and keep factory muffler in tact? Is this ok to do, do I even have a factory muffler? Thanks
Not diesel related, but if you have a turbo, GDI engines without a port injection system like the 3.5 ecoboost, delete your egr system too. Or mount a catchcan. You'll thank me later when your intake valves don't look like a 3 day old piece of charcoal.
I did delete my dpf/def and disabled my egr on my 2015 and I gained about 2.5-3 mpg... could have been cause it was a newer emissions system? But still in my head a gain is a gain.. and I'm also not buy def ever 1300 miles
I just finished fully deleting my 2014 1500 ecodiesel. I’m hearing a leak when under heavy load or really getting on the throttle. Any tips of where to look? I checked the Down pipe and I’m not seeing anything. Any suggestions?
If one deletes the EGR, will the regen system clog up faster? I have a 2020 Ford 6.7 and I'd like it to last a very long time. I have noticed that something must have changed in 2020 because programming and various deletion kits run up to 2019 only
I bought a used 2008 chevrolet 3500hd LMM pre-def. The truck does not have the original exhaust system. It just has a 5 inch straight pipe and has some kind of tuner knob on the dash. It has never had a check engine light for EGR. Can I assume this truck has been tuned for no EGR system?
If the truck regens less dont you run the risk of the def fluid expiring? I have heard that people have run into problems when they let their trucks sit for more than a couple months.
Maybe if you barely drove your truck but I don’t see that being an issue. DEF has a shelf life of 1-2 years depending on what temp you store it at so I don’t think it expires that quickly.
My hubby had this done on his truck and now it doesn't seem to have the power it used to and smokes excessively when you take off. Throttle réponse sucks now to say the least. Any ideas what could be wrong?
I had my truck tuned so egr valve is now closed + they added straight pipe, can I also proceed to delete the egr system to block everything or I will need a new tune onto the system. I'm trying to save some money since I could delete the egr system myself. Thanks
You should be fine to remove the egr with the same tune. If you’re unsure just unplug the egr, drive around make sure you don’t have any engine lights or codes, if not then remove the egr and you’ll be fine.
DEF doesn’t burn the particulates out of the DPF during regen, it’s 70% water my man. It is sprayed into the SCR while you aren’t in regen. Diesel is what burns particulates out of the DPF. You need to learn about the system if you are going to talk about it.
I can't speak for Canadians, but for those doing conversions in the southern US you left out some critical info: 1. How to cut hole in truck bed and add 12" diameter exhaust "stove pipe" right up behind rear window. 2. If not using stove pipe option, above, the importance of clamping a min. 18" diameter pipe extension to the end of your rear exhaust pipe. 3. How to build a large wooden portico with corrugated fiberglass roof off the side of the owners trailer house for truck storage
I commend you for making a video on the subject as enforcement of emissions equipment on diesels is being ramped up.I am a diesel mechanic I work on mostly heavy trucks Macks international freight liner,I owned 4 diesel pick ups myself,Once the DPF came out I stopped buying diesel trucks. Some of your information is a little bit incorrect and I would like to make you aware of it. You stated that DEF fluid was brought out because people were complaining about poor fuel mileage.DEF fluid came out because there was no other way to reduce NOX emissions enough to meet tier 4 final Emissions levels without it. International Did not use def fluid until 2015 they use a very high percentage of EGR from 2011 to 2014 to supposedly meet tier 4. final emissions.Their trucks did not meet emissions standards ,eventually international was fined a tremendous amount of money, I believe that the only reason they let the company stay in business is because they were such a high percentage of their trucks that are school buses and municipal trucks and if the company was put out of business it would have a huge effect on the entire trucking industry.Not only did they not make the emissions without it the EGR coolers failed an alarming rate because you’re running a very high percentage of egr was causing egr coolers to crack sometimes every 8-10,000 miles, and it was causing engine oil to be contaminated very quickly. By using Def fluid, The auto makers were able to drastically cut the amount of EGR needed this helps keep the engine oil cleaner , and reduce the pressure on the EGR cooler and cooling system of the engine.The other mistake you stated was that DEF is injected while the truck is in regen or burning off, That is true but DEF is also injected anytime the engine is up to temperature it’s injected slowly insteadily. The systems are getting better they are now installed on new trucks as a module containing the DIesel oxidizing Catalyst,The DPF and the DEF injector nozzle. One area where big trucks and light pick ups differ is the way they inject the diesel fuel large trucks use what’s called a doser behind the turbo charger,I think the Duramax uses this as well I know that early Fords used extra fuel in cylinders seven and eight, That just washed down those cylinders and ate the rings. The doser injector is a way better system. In United States while it may be legal locally in certain areas do not have an emissions inspection it is still illegal in all 50 states to remove any emissions control device from any vehicle for on road purposes. Here in New York commercial truck inspectors know what to look for if you have a 2008 and newer truck and you’re right rear fender has soot on it,And you’re driving in Rockland County or further south where they have DEMA ,which is “diesel emissions metropolitan area” regulations, you may get pulled over and inspected. I personally can’t stand the DEF systems, They have caused our large plow trucks to go down like you said for weeks at a time, our trucks are kind of important m since they’re plowing town roads are they useless sitting on the side of the road idling with a triangle on the dash board. .I have to go out with a scanner and do a forced regen ,Which can take up to 45 minutes in order to just be able to drive the truck back to the shop. Unfortunately this happens with brand new trucks like you said the cold weather and the roads are are not friendly with DEF heaters or lines.
Very good write up. I used to live in Rockland County as well. Right on RT 306 in Westley hills. Although that was many years ago no one bothered us for much of anything other than fireworks on the 4th lol.
My son lives in Maine where they have to get an inspection yearly. They’re really strict and almost every year they find something minor he has to fix and he’s pretty good about his maintenance. So there’s no way you could have a deleted pickup there.
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I live in Pennsylvania and am thinking about a 3500 Duramax brand new would you delete it if it was you I don't know anything about a diesel never owned one
A fine and jail time with a felony 😂yea I see no problem deleting
I'm in ky . I have a 2018 3500 Cummins. I want to fully delete everything. Def is costing a fortune. What should I buy and where?? I subscribed your channel
I followed your video as best I could and deleted my 2014 Cummins this week. Waited for the warranty to expire. Installed EFI Live tunes, S&B Cold Air Intake, deleted CCV, DEF and EGR. Thanks for the video! Extremely helpful!
Glad I could help!
How did your MPGs change on the Cummins? Any difference?
Hey man, could you tell me where you purchased your efi live tuner with tunes?
Gotta correct a couple things on the oe emissions side. The dpf is for particulate matter(soot). The regen process raises the temp in the dpf to burn off that soot. On Ram trucks, this is done if too much differential pressure is sensed across the dpf and on an engine hours basis. On my def equipped trucks, this was about every 24 engine hours. On my pre-def Rams it was less than every 10 engine hours.
DEF is injected into the catalyst after the dpf & is not used for cleaning the soot or in the regen process in any way. It reacts with the catalyst to remove NoX emissions. This allows for less egr to be used on def equipped trucks. Less egr = less soot= less regen’s.
Say it louder for all the boomers out there
I have an 2011 f350 6.7 non-delete with nearly 400,000 miles on it and no issues other than a starter, oil pressure sensor, small radiator leak from a round rubber gasket that broke.. truck runs great with tons of power and torque and wants to keep going..
Just finished a full delete on my LML. Used your videos and info a ton. Then had to replace my turbo 3 weeks later due to leaking seals putting oil into the exhaust. I was able to do it myself with Dark Iron Diesel videos! You’re the man. Buying some merch for sure.
Thanks buddy! Hopefully the online store works, if you try to order something and run into problems let me know!
Another tip I would give along with the three you mentioned is upgrading the cold air intake. Thank you for your contribution. It’s stuff like this that really helps people understand! 👍🏻
Turboed diesel engines will gain nothing from a cold air intake....lol. it's already cooled from going thru the intercooler.
What? Do you drive a civic?
Cold air intake is really a hot air intake and it's useless and ghetto
CAI makes a huge difference. Watch Banks "Killing a Duramax".
@@ORBoy80 no it doesn't
I came across your video looking up pros and cons of egr deletes on gas cars. I hit like because your video was well-informed and you passed that on.
Also, I’m Canadian, and I like Canadian content.
I had a diesel but sold it after too many check engine lights all emissions related; nothing to do with drivability. All were going to cost thousands so I unloaded it. If I did buy a diesel truck or car again I’d look for pre 2008 or whenever DPFs or DEF came out, no matter the miles. I’m in favour of clean air but I confess to liking the smell of unprocessed diesel exhaust since it reminds me of trains.
To paraphrase Archie bunker Canada is a f@g country 🙄
love canadians,love clean air as well,practically every different diesel from my childhood smelled different.THE TECH WILL IMPROVE FOR THE COMBUSTION OF HEAVY FUELS( look what they have done for the gassers) no one likes to breathe soot( although it tends to settle out rather quickly) the high combustion temps of the diesels were noted early on( that's when they were said to burn air(nox) and that's the reason for the urea reactors,as the tech improves diesels will be around forever because they are simply the best for certain apps,courage pilgrims don't fall into that $10.000 fine trap.Oh yes they have real torquey gassers now,but they will never give diesel economy,when diesel fuel falls back to the price it should be long live the heavy fuelers!
I understand that by deleting voids warranty but aren't most of the problems you're going to have that you would use warranty for have to do with the whole emissions system?
That the stealerships won't cover cause they know they're junk, and make the consumer pay out of pocket for and have the $100k truck down for weeks like he said in the video. I have a 2015 lml and I deleted it and it gets way better fuel mileage than it did without the tune... So I'm a little confused as to him saying it doesn't get much better. Only think I could think of is, if you're on the go button more often than not them ya, going to not get the best fuel mileage, but if you chill with the go button it gets way better, especially if you drive in the top tune all the time. 🤷♂️EPA & GOVERNMENT messing everything up as always. Let mechanics handle mechanics stuff and let cooks handle food stuff and don't let the FDA handle food and drug and don't let government in our lives other than for war from other countries other than that, they are not needed.
Deleted my LMM after warranty was up.. EGR block plate, MBRP Downpipe, 4 inch Flo Pro
Truck runs cooler when towing, gets a little better mpg..
Very good video. Thank you. Live in Alaska where it also gets -40F. Now seriously thinking about deleting.
Even if you don’t gain much in fuel mileage costs with a delete, you will recoup some money by not expending cash for Def!
$20 for 2.5 gallons...chevy 2500 gets about 1K miles and hardly taps into 1 gallon of DEF. Dont think you'll be saving much
@@Kraly87 you can get it from truck stops cheaper,that’s what I do you have pay $3.00 or less typically.
And all the repair jobs once your warranty is up
I have 3,000 miles on one tank of def with my new powerstroke. Still doesn’t need any
@@Kraly87 if you tow with your truck for work you will burn through def faster than that
Pre DEF Diesels have actually increased in value.
Oh ya big time because they can’t make you put something on your truck that was never there!
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I'm building an lly. Not for big power. But reliability. Being a truck driver. That egr valve was the first thing to go. Emissions crap has left me stranded more times then I can count.... This will be my first diesel pickup though. Fingers crossed
Also. Then engine was plugged nearly solid with soot. 500k km's on the odometer. Here's to a million more
@@Yippa391 That's why I still love my 2004 6.0 Powerstroke. Bought it back in 2010 and EGR Deleted it and head studded it and it's been an absolute gem of a truck!!
Is my 95 k3500 pre dpf?
Drive an ‘03 6.0. I’ve had it since ‘08. I will continue to do maintenance early, to my “upgraded” EGR, studded motor. New trucks look so nice, and I could go buy one with cash, but I’ll stick with my old truck. Runs great, still sounds and smells like a diesel should. Sad where diesel trucks have gone smfh. Good, somewhat accurate video dude. Funny you had to explain what “deleting” is. And yes, you should do it, if you want a diesel that will last and not break down all the time. Or, you can go spend $80k on your new loaded truck, that runs like shit after a few months of spending tons of money on shit fuel, shit DEF, and additives for oil and fuel. Cheers to the EPA (in the US).
BMXMXMETAL 💯 BRO! One of the best replies on here! F$#& THE EPA & BIG GOVERNMENT!
I have a stock 2007 6.0. 90,000 miles. With a turbo back exhaust system. Not sure what that means. It’s feeling gutless these days. What should I do or delete, do you recommend?
Def is added to the exhaust to work in conjunction with the egr and the cat to reduce NOx emissions through selective catalytic reduction, thats why the def system is sometimes called the scr system. its not for cleaning the particulate filter, the truck either cleans that through passive regeneration (naturally high egt to burn the soot out) or active regeneration (artificially high egt from extra fuel being added to the exhaust stroke) if theres too much soot load on the filter and not enough passive regen. but yah def fluid isnt for the filter and the reason it helps with performance like fuel mileage is because the engine can use less egr to reduce nox emissions which hinders power and efficiency and instead pump def into the exhaust to catalyze the nox.
An actually accurate comment for a change on a diesel video!
You bought yourself a like and follow. Real talk is not common anymore, you done just that. Respect.
Thanks buddy 👊🏻
@@darkirondiesel Please do not thank me for you stating that you will pass along what you know. You made it clear for each person to do their own research. I simply like the raw, camera moving while you walk and talk and kept it real. You didn't once lie or become biased. Just, keep doing this and all is good. No matter what you know or say somebody will try and out do you or prove you wrong. These people suffer from tiny sword disorder. Probably don't even own diesels
This help a late,I don't think I will ever delete I got a 2016 ram 3500 dully, an I pull campers for aliving,all over the world, an I've got 465938 miles on my Ram an still get 9 to 10 gallons a mile,an thats pulling a 37 ft ,up in mountains wy,an AZ,MT.an I get 15.6 to 18 mile a gallon not pulling so ill keep mine as is.ty for sharing
DEF does not burn, it is intended to act as a catalyst to allow the Catalytic to do its job, the Particulate filter relies on high temps generated by inject diesel directly into the exhaust to regenerate
I know this is not a buy and sell site,I have a cherry95 GMC LONG BED FOR SALE 2100$ nobody around here seems to want this thing great apolcylpse truck, you have a fantastic site and very good advice
Hey video thanks for posting this and sharing. This world is true still pretty quiet no one really wants to give any information out about this. Deafly will be deleting my truck once I hit hundred thousand miles on this motor. The EGR system is such garbage and the fact that the DEF system is too.
No matter how you look at it the DPF systems are here to stay and the penalty is steep if you remove it. If you want a diesel pickup you just have to deal with it. A friend runs a stealth tuner that’s designed to work with DPF emissions system. If I buy a new one down the road I’ll just run the stealth tuner with DPF system. Power and mileage increase can be pretty substantial after deleting.
Ya like I say in the video, you can still tune a truck with emissions and gain fuel mileage and power while leaving the dpf intact. It’s definitely the way of the future.
Deleted my 2015 duramax because it was cheaper to do the replace the faulty egr ... didn't get any gains in milage .. but gains knowing I don't have to deal with Emmons failures in the future. Lol
After a stuck egr valve a plugged off dpf filter a def heater, def pump and worsening mileage I deleted everything and went to a 4” turbo back system , the truck is running better than new.
I will tell you this every 5000 miles the Converters would plug up, so it was replace under Warranty then when went out of warranty at 36,000 miles and the dealership wanted $7000. To replace them again soon told them well I will take care of that problem. Now my oil is absolutely Clean for every Oil Change. The Truck runs perfect now. I had 5” installed now at 180,000 miles it gets 24 Miles per Gallon. Plenty of power, Less Oil changes because its black. My truck is bad ass.
Thank you for making this video. It helps us to be in the know...
Egr is the reason i change my oil every 5000km on my 2018 f350. Even at that interval i still use rotella t6 5w40 and archoil ar9100. I also put in a double dose of archoil ar6200 every time i fuel up. I also make sure to kick in the high idle whenever the truck is going to be idling for any amount of time after it is warmed up. I do everything i can to keep the level of soot to a minimum
Glad to see some people actually take care of their vehicles these days 👍🏻
@@darkirondiesel maintenance is cheaper than repairs.
I think most horror stories form Diesels revolve around dudes with 100+ hp tunes and never doing maintenance.
That’s not how the emissions system works and DEF isn’t injected into the DPF. The SCR after the turbo is the first step and that’s what the DEF is injected into. Also current diesel engines still regenerate by heating the DPF.
Stay Tuned! Love the deleted life good video
on my ford 6.4 I did it the wrong way. I was to put on the dashdac pro then scan then delete the exhaust DPF. well, I had taken all that off then I scan it after I had already removed it all plus I didn't have the O2 plugged in when I scanned it. I set it at 650hp after the scan. then plugged in the O2. i was averaging 30MPG. this was my first time doing it and thats why I didn't do it right. I wanted to get all the parts in first. I didn't read the install directions first. well, I have other buddies that did it right they followed the install guide. they don't get the MPG I do. food for thought I guess.
My buddy was able to get a pretty good mileage increase after deleting and his oil stopped getting black immediately after a oil change
Great video. I learned a lot on this now. I wish I watched this while I went to look at a duramax. Thought guy was lying about the tune for delete and why it was only running 40mph. I lost out on nice truck.
Why is the delete kit $5,000 for a 2020 duramax? Doesn't make sense. A pipe, some cables, and a tune.... for 5k... doesn't add up.
Bought a brand new F250 here in northern VA. This place has so many regulations and vehicle taxes I couldn’t delete. Now I’m leaving my wife and heading to Florida, so I can probably look into deleting my big baby F250. I wonder if it would save me gas? 🤔 I’m curious 👀
One thing I’ve noticed is I’m not getting better gas mileage per say even though I put in an on the fly 4 speed nob
Im starting to believe these emissions on trucks was a big money grab.
The US even blacklisted the VW car engines after 2006 when Europe continued to use them. Remember the diesel rabbits that could get 60 mpg and last 300K? My 2009 Jetta was recalled d/t the defeat software lawsuit - great car, but the lobbyists ended it. How much pollution are we talking from a 1.9L engine getting over 50mpg??
All the reason i keep my 2007 classix LBZ duramax. No def, not cat, no muffler, no egr.
Thanks For the Video, just got a 22 Denali L5P Duramax its way too quiet, want some noise, and exhaust shops say will still be quiet due to DPF, I feel stuck, not sure what to do!
So why not just hit a button roll coal then hit button again back to stock like with loud exhaust
Deleting your diesel is the best way to make the engine go for 600k+ miles. The ONLY cons are legislation related. If you think dealerships steal your money, the government will steal it and throw you in jail along the way.
Awesome video. I learned a lot with all the information you gave. Thank you.
Only one reason not to delete your truck: Government playing daddy and stealing your money any way they can.
It's pretty crazy
Out of control government is the biggest reason to delete your truck. If no one pushes back they will push even harder and faster with their regulations and laws
Love this comment.... The realest I ever heard. Trucks don't need that. That's choking these trucks. They want to control... Man what about ships and planes chemical plants? They wide open.... Smdh
Which will soon come to an end. Our freedom is among those who fight against tyranny.
@dontfit6380 actually pushing back can lead to retaliatory regulations, laws, and increased penalties. The best form of pushback is when it is undetected, up until nearly everyone has done it. If by the time daddy finds out, they find out only 10% complied, they're far less likely to try and punish those who didn't. But if you rebelliously just do it yourself and flaunt it, you'll get busted and make things worse for everyone.
Hypothetically, if you somehow permanently closed the valve without a tune, then changed your exhaust would it work?
Unfortunately, you have to do it all, or nothing. There are so many sensors involved, just doing the tune, or removing the emissions items individually would cause other issues. Removing/upgrading the physical "parts", allows the engine to breathe/operate normally... Re-tuning the computer tell it "everything's fine, nothing to see here."
Diesel exhaust fluid is only for exhaust temperature To keep Nox down
Def is not used to burn out the DPF.... def is for the SCR which in return lowers the NoX out of the exhaust..... to burn out the DPF the engine uses diesel injected in to the exhaust before the DOC to heat up the exhaust to burn the soot build up in the DPF.....
Yes if you look through the comments about 100 people said the same thing, I’m like a master at emissions now from all the comments lol.
The reason i got an 02 f250 7.3
14.3l /100km on my deleted 2012 lml for fuel mileage.
My stock 19 ram can get 10 to 12 per 100kms depending on how i drive not towing
I usually run between 12.5 and 13.5L/100km mixed driving with 2018 f350. Can get just under 12L/100km on highway driving with slightly oversized tires
Low soot tune for the win!
Need to find 2020 delete tunes. No testing for emissions where I am. Police/bureaucrats don’t know anything about diesels.
And you have no clue how bad diesels trucks pollute the environment...
Liberal alert ☝️. If diesels are so bad and global warming is such a serious problem and oceans are rising. then why do all the top democrats own beach front houses. Seems like a bad investment
Jim Matteo diesels are more efficient than gasoline engines. Every engine should be a Diesel engine. If you have the correct air/fuel ratio they don’t pollute that much. My older 2007 diesel truck makes absolutely no black smoke. Not even under load or hard acceleration. NOX isn’t a problem unless you wrap your mouth around the tailpipe with the truck running. I’m a regional supplier for GM dealers and each dealer on average orders at least one DPF system each week. That tells me all I need to know about how unreliable it is. If the truck isn’t under warranty open up the wallet when the part numbers fly.
I have a 2015 freightliner sprinter with 178k miles...on 9/19/22 I was on the hwy doing about 60mph and all of a sudden a light popped up on the dashboard that looked like an ice cream cone surfing on water with 2 water droplets on top....i connected my scan tool and it gave me a code P13DF00 and then the van said I had 9 starts left... I searched around and found a euro mechanic and we got the talking... he said he knew a guy that knew a guy that can delete the def system... I agreed.. I had no choice... 🤷🏼♂️ the damn van was telling me I had 4 starts left!..... so I took the truck in yesterday 9/20/22 and he called me this morning 9/21/22 and said the truck is ready.... yaay!😃
Warranty part is not true at all, did it years ago to my 2017 and still took it in for repairs as long as the delete did not cause the issue they will repair and keep warranty, any recalls you have they will still fix aswell
Depends on the dealer. Some are cool about it some are jerks. I find small town dealerships are usually the best.
Hi. I have a 2003 f250 6.0 2wd. But don't like it cuz is to slow 0 to 60. What would be something that I could do to make it faster?.
Hey. 2019 Cummins, is it ok to just delete the DEF and DPF portion of exhaust with the proper pipe piece and keep factory muffler in tact? Is this ok to do, do I even have a factory muffler?
Thanks
Hey if you delete the EGR but not the exhaust do you need to still tune?
I see those NVK Logistics containers everywhere here in BC
how do your register/pass smog when you delete? is there a way to get around it or do you have to know a guy who knows a guy who is a dirty smog guy.
Not diesel related, but if you have a turbo, GDI engines without a port injection system like the 3.5 ecoboost, delete your egr system too. Or mount a catchcan. You'll thank me later when your intake valves don't look like a 3 day old piece of charcoal.
I did delete my dpf/def and disabled my egr on my 2015 and I gained about 2.5-3 mpg... could have been cause it was a newer emissions system? But still in my head a gain is a gain.. and I'm also not buy def ever 1300 miles
I would love to get my 2016 dodge 2500 6.7 but I can’t find a tuner to delete it
"Canada" Motor ops.
I don't wanna drop names, but contact Anarchy diesel. Can't make any guarantees though.
Do it yourself. You can get the tune emailed to you.
Helps me better understand! Thank you!
Only up grade I really want is a second swap that’s it .
I’m in the US where can I get a delete system plz.
We have a 2004.5 Kodiac C4500 LLY. How much different is there between my truck and the pickup that you were installing up pipe and down pipes?
I don't care about mpg...i just go vroom vroom
Can you do a full delete and not blow black smoke?
I just finished fully deleting my 2014 1500 ecodiesel. I’m hearing a leak when under heavy load or really getting on the throttle. Any tips of where to look? I checked the Down pipe and I’m not seeing anything. Any suggestions?
Check your cold-side tubes and boots. Look for wear spots. Also make sure your clamps are actually clamping the tubes/boots.
If one deletes the EGR, will the regen system clog up faster? I have a 2020 Ford 6.7 and I'd like it to last a very long time. I have noticed that something must have changed in 2020 because programming and various deletion kits run up to 2019 only
I bought a used 2008 chevrolet 3500hd LMM pre-def. The truck does not have the original exhaust system. It just has a 5 inch straight pipe and has some kind of tuner knob on the dash. It has never had a check engine light for EGR. Can I assume this truck has been tuned for no EGR system?
If the truck regens less dont you run the risk of the def fluid expiring? I have heard that people have run into problems when they let their trucks sit for more than a couple months.
Maybe if you barely drove your truck but I don’t see that being an issue. DEF has a shelf life of 1-2 years depending on what temp you store it at so I don’t think it expires that quickly.
How much do delete 2014 6.7 Dodge
So, helpful. Great video.
If a 2005 6.0l has been studded and deleted in your opinion there pretty save to buy?
What about freightliner cascadias?
it only makes sense that your truck would run cooler with the egr
Great video! Thanks! With a deleted 2017 ram 2500 would you recommend head studs for a 30HP tune if the person goes heavy?
No only headstuds maybe pushing 100 plus hp but even though you prob wouldn’t need it
Can I delete egr while keeping DPF on
My hubby had this done on his truck and now it doesn't seem to have the power it used to and smokes excessively when you take off. Throttle réponse sucks now to say the least. Any ideas what could be wrong?
Just did an egr delete on an 08 ford f350, now facing extreme power loss, and ideas?
Hello there I'm from Canada Aberta. I like your channel
Do you know where is the Def Pump in dodge 2500? thanks.
Great video man, vote Trump, ditch epa.
Trump doesn’t give a flying fuck about the diesel truck industry
@@NegroZ71 .... the real question is who would give the epa more power? “Trump doesn’t give a shit” how do you think sleepy creepy Joe feels?
“Take this DEF and shove it”
So this is only if you have a def system on it right?
In your opinion is motor ops out of Canada a good solid company? Thoughts on switch on fly tune ?
Is it illegal in Canada or just the US?
Can you delete without tuning or flashing something? I see a lot of videos where they delete and drive off. No tuning. Thanks
What is the cost of a dpf delete kit ?
Is there a way to do away with the ehr but keep rest off of the emissions
I had my truck tuned so egr valve is now closed + they added straight pipe, can I also proceed to delete the egr system to block everything or I will need a new tune onto the system. I'm trying to save some money since I could delete the egr system myself. Thanks
You should be fine to remove the egr with the same tune. If you’re unsure just unplug the egr, drive around make sure you don’t have any engine lights or codes, if not then remove the egr and you’ll be fine.
@darkirondiesel will try that, thanks!!
You forgot to mention the cost of repairing emission systems. It's 1000 of $ to fix.
Thanks for the great explanation...
My 17’ 6.7 stock was 13mpg. Now it’s at 19mpg 🤷♂️🖤
For normal driving on highway and city, with the delete, would there be a noticeable amount of soot from the exhaust?
Only with bad tuning. Good tunes shouldn’t put out a ton of smoke.
So with emissions tunes the trick still regens?
love my delete with race me tuner
DEF doesn’t burn the particulates out of the DPF during regen, it’s 70% water my man. It is sprayed into the SCR while you aren’t in regen. Diesel is what burns particulates out of the DPF. You need to learn about the system if you are going to talk about it.
Not the point of the video
my budget is very limited now I spend most of my $$$ on this truck I still have a fewer hundred left please help me thanks
I can't speak for Canadians, but for those doing conversions in the southern US you left out some critical info: 1. How to cut hole in truck bed and add 12" diameter exhaust "stove pipe" right up behind rear window. 2. If not using stove pipe option, above, the importance of clamping a min. 18" diameter pipe extension to the end of your rear exhaust pipe. 3. How to build a large wooden portico with corrugated fiberglass roof off the side of the owners trailer house for truck storage
Thanks teach. Good info
That’s not what DEF does.
Ok i was just trolling you, but it turns out you are the grown-up in the room.
What’s the best tuner for a mild tow tune for a 2005 5.9?
I commend you for making a video on the subject as enforcement of emissions equipment on diesels is being ramped up.I am a diesel mechanic I work on mostly heavy trucks Macks international freight liner,I owned 4 diesel pick ups myself,Once the DPF came out I stopped buying diesel trucks. Some of your information is a little bit incorrect and I would like to make you aware of it. You stated that DEF fluid was brought out because people were complaining about poor fuel mileage.DEF fluid came out because there was no other way to reduce NOX emissions enough to meet tier 4 final Emissions levels without it. International Did not use def fluid until 2015 they use a very high percentage of EGR from 2011 to 2014 to supposedly meet tier 4. final emissions.Their trucks did not meet emissions standards ,eventually international was fined a tremendous amount of money, I believe that the only reason they let the company stay in business is because they were such a high percentage of their trucks that are school buses and municipal trucks and if the company was put out of business it would have a huge effect on the entire trucking industry.Not only did they not make the emissions without it the EGR coolers failed an alarming rate because you’re running a very high percentage of egr was causing egr coolers to crack sometimes every 8-10,000 miles, and it was causing engine oil to be contaminated very quickly. By using Def fluid, The auto makers were able to drastically cut the amount of EGR needed this helps keep the engine oil cleaner , and reduce the pressure on the EGR cooler and cooling system of the engine.The other mistake you stated was that DEF is injected while the truck is in regen or burning off, That is true but DEF is also injected anytime the engine is up to temperature it’s injected slowly insteadily. The systems are getting better they are now installed on new trucks as a module containing the DIesel oxidizing Catalyst,The DPF and the DEF injector nozzle. One area where big trucks and light pick ups differ is the way they inject the diesel fuel large trucks use what’s called a doser behind the turbo charger,I think the Duramax uses this as well I know that early Fords used extra fuel in cylinders seven and eight, That just washed down those cylinders and ate the rings. The doser injector is a way better system. In United States while it may be legal locally in certain areas do not have an emissions inspection it is still illegal in all 50 states to remove any emissions control device from any vehicle for on road purposes. Here in New York commercial truck inspectors know what to look for if you have a 2008 and newer truck and you’re right rear fender has soot on it,And you’re driving in Rockland County or further south where they have DEMA ,which is “diesel emissions metropolitan area” regulations, you may get pulled over and inspected. I personally can’t stand the DEF systems, They have caused our large plow trucks to go down like you said for weeks at a time, our trucks are kind of important m since they’re plowing town roads are they useless sitting on the side of the road idling with a triangle on the dash board. .I have to go out with a scanner and do a forced regen ,Which can take up to 45 minutes in order to just be able to drive the truck back to the shop. Unfortunately this happens with brand new trucks like you said the cold weather and the roads are are not friendly with DEF heaters or lines.
Stopped making cat motors as well due to them not being able to pass emissions. Nice write up
Very good write up. I used to live in Rockland County as well. Right on RT 306 in Westley hills. Although that was many years ago no one bothered us for much of anything other than fireworks on the 4th lol.
My son lives in Maine where they have to get an inspection yearly. They’re really strict and almost every year they find something minor he has to fix and he’s pretty good about his maintenance. So there’s no way you could have a deleted pickup there.
@@sokodad Maine is fine, just find an independent shop for inspection.
I mean, with all of these issues, what's the point of even owning a newer model anymore? These fukkin EPA kooks have ruined it, once again.