mall workers who mysteriously disappeared
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- despite working in places that cater to massive numbers of people, these four individuals seemingly vanished into thin air, leaving no one who could tell the story of what became of them.
[00:08] Laurie Depies
[08:26] Kristen Modafferi
[16:01] Suzanne Lyall
[25:48] Mark Ramin
Unfound interview with Mary Lyall: • Video
Background music: art of silence (version 2) by uniq: / uniqofficial
Scariest thing? How fast and easy people can just disappear with no trace.
Well they don't that's the thing... Someone always knows something. One thing even if it's only the victim and the killer....
Soon we’ll all have brain chips so it will be much easier to track everyone
Yes. Entire AIRPLANES can disappear.
@@jessehutchings dude, that is the weirdest thing sometimes. Or it will show up later somewhere else and your like how the hell, did it roll, I didn't hear/see it. Some things are so strange
One way is the assailant had a weapon and said come with me or else. That would prevent a scream, etc. Another is the missing person knew the perpetrator and trusted them to walk with or talk with them. Chloroform or some other type of method would then be used to take the victim. Yes I watch a lot of these videos!
When I was in collage I worked part-time at a Hotel-Bar as the hours suited my class schedule. One night at about 2:00am, when I got off work I drove home to my off campus apt. and as I pulled in I was surprised to find a Police car pulled in behind my car. I got out and 2 officers got out of their car and introduced themselves, with badges and ID. I inquired as to what I had done and they told me that they had been sitting in the hotel parking lot watching out for possible drunk drivers when they saw me exit the bar and get in my car. They watched me pull out of the parking lot when another car pulled out behind me. They then followed the car that was following me when I pulled into my parking lot. The other car proceeded to drive past and the cops pulled into to see that I made it home safely. I had no idea I was even being followed! Before they left they gave me a small can of Pepper spray and showed me how to use it. I started paying more attention after that!
Goes to show how many evil sick mufuckas walking amongst us.....scary shit
Girly you dodged a bullet that night and thank God those cops were on the ball enough to see a potentially serious to lethal situation in play. I'm in my mid 50's now and I live in NSW in Australia. I worked at McDonalds in the evenings when I was still in school and I never felt especially worried when I took the cash from the night to the banks after hours deposit draw. I would be carrying $ 2K and back in the 1980's that was a reasonable amount of money and it would have bought a fair amount of drugs and alcohol. Then in 1986 when I was pregnant with my second child and not working at that time a young nurse called Anita Cobby got off the train at Blacktown station, which is where I lived and the McDonalds and the bank were on that street. She'd been to dinner in the city with nursing colleagues and tried to get a taxi but there were none. BTW the taxi rank was at the station. She then tried to call her parents but they had both gone to bed by then so she decided to walk home which was less than a mile away. But there were 5 predators out that night hunting for a victim and a bit of a thrill. You can Google the rest, which is horrific and her death left an indelible mark on our community and on me personally because, like you, I too dodged a bullet in that it wasn't me that night but it could have been. Anita was a good person and she came from good people and she ABSOLUTELY DID NOT deserve to be put through the torture she endured. We need to realize that the most innocuous looking individuals can commit the most heinous crimes.If we are in their line of sight it would take a miracle, like the one YOU received, to prevent our own disappearance and demise.It amazes me just how many people disappear in extremely short time frames and sometimes these people are moments away from home and then they NEVER arrive and families wait for decades hoping for answers that never come. As a parent and Grandma I would much rather know that my child had died and I can have a funeral and mourn and over time the pain would be easier to cope with. My worst nightmare would be the multiple scenarios that I would go over in my head daily going between hope and despair. I'm SO VERY GLAD that you didn't become another statistic and that you can share your story. Situational awareness is something that we have less and less of when we have our digital devices with us at all times like many do. For some people the training they received in the Military about this is the reason they're alive today. Google it after Anita's story. I hope your life is a positive and happy one and thanks for sharing your story. Take care now!
@Journeystomake Alkebulan What does it matter, how she spells college? Stick to the subject matter, please, instead of contributing with a negative and irrelevant comment.
The other comment you wrote, was both relevant and intelligently written.
Journeystomake Alkebulan anyone could tell is a typo , lighten up
@@ASartori86 I remember the Anita Coby story, so very sad, the rotten bastards, wished we could have had them hanged!
He didn’t black out. He doesn’t want to be responsible for what he’s done. Well, too late.
It actually does happen where people can't remember what they did because of how disturbing it is to even them.
@@gantmj That's so messed up....
It *can* happen, but that doesn't mean that it did in his case.
There is a longer story about Hall.
What's with these killers who have no problem taking someone elses life but want their own lives spared ??? They didn't give their victims an option !!!
Most killers are cowards. They choose weaker victims who most likely are carrying little or no defense, or attack those who may be of equal strength but have no weapons. Because killers are cowards they will beg for their own lives. They are despicable and deserve no mercy.
Cowards...And what's with them being crazy enough to kill but sane enough to not turn themselves in?? That's not crazy anymore, that's a horrible choice and deserves the same ending the victim received
They are sociopaths. They are very demented and dangerous people see only themselves as having any consequence. Nobody and nothing has ANY value to them.
@@christinetheresa7416
Is EVERYTHING political with you, get a life !
Find a non suicidal person who willingly goes to their death. Everyone fights for their life anyway they can. Killers are no different. I can’t believe people are surprised when someone does what they can to stay alive.
Mall’s parking lots were really dangerous back in the 80’s, 90’s . Retail employees were told to park at the end of the lots to leave spaces for the shoppers . I remember if you were a retail worker you were allowed to ask for a security escort from the mall to your car 🚘
Late to the party as usual, but.... I'm not 100% comfortable saying that's changed. One of the restaurants I worked at in the last decade was ultimately forced to request an available officer on hand *every night* so that men would stop harassing the female members of the closing staff (and threatening the male members trying to protect them). We're talking threats, offers to 'follow them home for their safety', offers of a 'ride', etc, etc. And we just shared lot space with a little stripmall, rather than being in a proper multi-storefront mall with an interior space. And it was a punishable offense, for the record, to park your vehicle in any space within fifty feet of one of the main entrances if you were an employee.
And closer to twenty years ago, female staff in particular were encouraged to leave via the sublevel maintenance tunnel (restaurant inside a hotel) rather than going out the door, if they worked until close and/or were part of the closing team, because it was so common for guests to accost female staff late at night that it was deemed safer for them to exit the building *on the loading dock* in the back.
Like, this stuff hasn't gone away. If anything, it's more likely it's the opposite; it's become ubiquitous and therefore not news- or note- worthy.
@@patrickharrington9394 wow it's insane they don't consider security - specially for female employees- at malls or big parking lot places!! I've seen so so many videos of missing women that disappeared in a parking lot for decades, that it should be law to have them escorted by security if they work there. Another one that needs to change asap in the US is the maintenance guy in apartment buildings. Only in the US and I guess Canada they have the keys to every apartment, outside those countries just the property owner and the person renting has the key, and if thy need work done they stay the day and open for the maintenance guy, but he Never has the key and thousands of US cases of abuse and murder is because of this!
Considering the few employees at any mall at 10pm, you think they’d crank the lights up and make sure everyone left safely.
My cousin worked at a fast food place in Toronto in 1980s the store managers were responsible for making sure every employee left the parking lot safely. Walking them to their cars or waiting with them for a family member to arrive. So easy so simple and zero cost.
My friend Ashley Simpson went missing from Salmon Arm, BC Canada, 3 years this April 2019. Her drivers license was found hundreds of miles away, yet she has not been. It's devastating to her loved ones to have zero anwsers. I feel for all these families who have missing loved ones.
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This case has always bothered me. I wish the family all the best in finding her.
She disappeared after she got caught lip-syncing on Saturday Night Live. Case closed.
@@andrewkennedy-reagan3289 ass
@@andrewkennedy-reagan3289 😂 very funny. I thought the same when saw the name.
I worked at the Mall of America when I was in college 10 years ago, my Mom & Dad were always worried about me walking through the Mall after close, and getting to my car in the ramp. I don't know why I'm watching this now, Laurie's case was close to home. I can't believe a civil war reenactment actor was a murderer, I don't understand how "I blacked out" was an excuse that worked. Crazy.
It actually does happen where people can't remember what they did because of how disturbing it is to even them.
@Disingenuous White-Boy you sound like a douch
Lol he happens to have an identical twin sicko I mean brother...a
Larry and Gary. It plays out like a B grade thriller but it's sadly real life... In this case Laurie lost her life at the hands of this sick twisted fxxk
It didnt really "work" per se as he wanted a confession in return for a favorable jail sentence. He didnt get it
You CAN’T believe a civil war reenactor was a murderer? 😂
When I heard about Suzanne's dad passing without answers, it made me cry. I cannot imagine the pain these families live with.
I lived in Wisconsin just 30 minutes away from the Fox River Mall at the time Laurie Depies going missing. My friend from school went missing at the same time about and her body found 100 miles away in a ditch raped and murdered. They thought they might of been connected. Until Cora Jones kidnapping about 2ish years later in Wisconsin only a short drive from where I lived and where my friend was taken. David Spanbauer killed 3 girls. They questioned him on Laurie and he didn't do it. So intense the memories I have at that time and that all lead me to being a True Crime fan hardcore. I'm a walking brain of serial killer and true crime knowledge and still going with it to this moment.
Edit: thank you for putting Laurie in your video. She seems to be forgotten alot. I know my good childhood friend Ronnie was forgotten. Not one video EVER made about her to this day. No one says her name.
why are you breathing I seem to recall this story on another vid. Was that you?
@@nofiltermamma maybe I don't know. But possibly I do comment on anything I come across related to Wisconsin and memories and experiences I went through there (I lived there a huge chunk of my life off and on) I watch videos on. What happened to my friend Ronnie is why I'm into all these true crime cases and whatnot. I wanted to be a Police Officer/Detective or a Psychologist after her murder and was dead set on it. I wanted to put away all the MONSTERS in the world or figure out how they can do the unimaginable things to another HUMAN LIFE and maybe stop them from doing it or prevent it. Then my life changed and I wasn't able to do that. So I sorta just websleuth/read/help in my own way now.
why are you breathing I get it. I'm old and what I have seen would make most sick. The bad is overtaking the good and I'm glad i won't be around when we destroy ourselves and the world. I just worry about my family. Take care
Why are you breathing.. I'm so sorry for your loss of your friend..What is your friend Ronnie's last name or full name maybe this person will do a story on her.
@@whyareyoubreathing8572 @ We would like Ro9nnie's last name so we can dig around too!
My dad went to SUNY Albany and told me about Suzanne Lyall’s case. He said the case always haunted him. I personally go to Crossgate’s Mall where she worked all the time. Thank you for honoring her story and bringing it to light. There is another woman, Karen Wilson, who went to SUNY Albany and disappeared in 1985. Maybe you could cover her?
I read about Karen's disappearance.There are so many similarities between the two cases.I wouldn't really be surprised if the same creature was responsible for their disappearances.
When I was a teenager, I worked at a clothes store. I was there at around after 11:00 pm. Thank goodness I had family members to make sure that I was safe. My coworkers came out together. We do what we have to do. I am fifty-two and I am still here.
I live in the town where Laurie Depies disappeared from. I remember signs plastered everywhere for her. It’s so sad she never was found safe. I can’t imagine that being my daughter 😢
The first story was recently on The Dr. Phil Show. She still hasn’t been found and the boyfriend said his life has been destroyed ever since her disappearance.
Laurie's story was also on Unsolved Mysteries
I wish someone would help my family to find my cousin Julie Erley from Trotwood ohio Missing for over 8 yrs
Email all these channels with your info and what you want them to include hun. They will I'm sure. Im sorry you and your fsmily have to live eith such horror and sadness.
Susan, not sure if this will help but have you heard of Unfound? If so, I apologize for such a simple response.
Contact grey Hughes. Send him a detailed email at Grayhuze2@gmail.com. Be sure to get his attention in the subject line.
Check out his channel on UA-cam
Grey Hughes investigates.
Good luck 👍🏻
**Is your cousin listed in NAMUS (National Missing and Unidentified Persons System). If not, please petition to have Julie Erly added by filing an online application with them through their website @ **www.namus.gov/**
If she was a child at the time of her disappearance, she may also be listed with the national center for missing and exploited children here in the US, (NCMEC). Their website is www.missingkids.com/home
Do you have photos of her? Any details including anything you know about her former whereabouts and her hobbies, her workplaces, her habits, her personality and the details of her disappearance/day she disappeared or any information the police or private investigators may have had, regardless if they followed-up or considered them "dead leads" - these are all potentially relevant and helpful. Even a description of her clothing and any jewelry or identifying scars or tattoos or any history of childbirth (regardless if it was a live birth - and whether a cesarean was performed) are important factors which may still be helpful and relevant to identification living or deceased. Did she have any identifying characteristics physical or otherwise, (a limp or a lisp or a quirk)? A photo of her, her age now and at the time of her disappearance, if that's all you have, along with whatever details, no matter how slim, would be helpful.
There are groups online who do this in their free time, charging nothing. Can you provide more than a name (and is the location where she lived at time of disappearance, or where she grew-up or where she disappeared from?)?
I may be able to direct you to some possible resources for aid.
You may also contact groups online, yourself as well as contacting the UA-cam channels which showcase disappearances and missing people in hopes of help getting the word out.
Try lordan arts he does alot of stuff on missin persons
And now even the malls are disappearing...:(
Lol
Silverfoxxee 😂 so true! There are so many ghost strip malls around. More and more people shop online. It’s sad how we’re losing more and more person contact with our fellow human beings 😞
DOWN with amazon
coccinelle80 you’ve never worked retail or were never a young attractive woman...you can mourn the loss of “human interaction” if you want, I say good riddance!
@@KellyfromMemphis Customer interaction should be fun but sadly , esp. In the digital/online age, ppl have become even worse w/ their interpersonal skills. If you're a young attractive girl at a store, U also likely deal w/ creeps, stalkers, flirts, & what-else.
Human trafficking, it's probably more vast then we know, people will do anything for money, "human" is something we have not fully evolved into yet.
Everyone is crazy everywhere!
john smith why u talking about his nut case and his crasy
I get what you mean, but that's not how evolution works
I'm not normally a fan of music in true crime videos, but yours is just right!
This is the best presentation of Suzanne Lyall’s case I have ever seen. You really did a lot of research. I am so impressed, you may consider me a new subscriber!
Poor girl was a success story in the making . Already a very brilliant mindful student who was ahead of her classmates, she was teaching the tutors who were paid to teach her about computers... Plus she was an excellent writer. Its a shame she was taken so horrifically before she had the chance and time to shine... She was probably saving for a car of her own. 😰😓😓
Guess you've never seen "Disappeared."
I just want to know how he kidnapped Laurie that quickly and quietly...that is so scary...
I lived 30 minutes from the Fox River Mall when this happened to Laurie. The scariness you speak of terrified so many people at that time.
The mall hired more security guards to help escort people to their cars, people were asked to wake in pairs to their cars and bus stop by the mall, the news would tell people to watch to see if they are followed and if they think they are drive to a police station or busy business, not to go where you are going to like your home or school or friends house to lead them there, if you had to pull in and do not get out if your car and in all situations the place you arrive start honking your horn till someone comes to you, draw attention to yourself make a scene till you see the car following you drive away from you.
It was months of people being scared because of the eeriness of how she just vanished into thin air.....
No scream heard... Her bf heard her car pull in but that was it... so what I find weird is that this was an apartment complex, it's August 19th.... Kids are on Summer Break they are up late and prolly some outside... People grilling... it's hot and humid in summer in Wisconsin so windows are open... People outside or on their balconies...
it was only 10:15 at night when she parked, people should be pulling in from finishing work or leaving to go to work the night shift, delivery drivers of food.... I've lived in many apartment buildings even right now actually and there is ALWAYS humans around all hours... This isn't a suburb...
I don't get how no one saw anything... Her bf went to the balcony a couple minutes later and saw nothing... So i wonder how fast this person took her... If they followed her they had to of parked close to her when she parked and walked straight bee line style to her and grab her and keep her silent get her to his vehicle and drive away in just seconds... Legit ONLY seconds.... POOF Laurie Depies just vanished...
And i remember the news showing the location of her car and the parking spots around how close to other residents and such... But no one saw or heard anything??...
How is someone subdued so fast without a sound made....
Her boyfriend Marc Truebenbach was a suspect for a bit I remember and cleared fast.... but the people didn't agree with him being cleared for a very long time.
I have my own thoughts and opinions on this one....
why are you breathing ... please share your thoughts and opinions...it be nice to know.
Lydia Petra they did! It’s right above my comment she wrote a lot!
@@lydiapetra1211 I posted most of them. I was saying I have my thoughts and opinions on Laurie Depies more as a declarative sentence... Haha.... Making a definite statement...
I mean I do have more to say just don't know how. People I talk to about this don't ask me questions about it for me to have a good conversation with. People like to fight and argue or one-up each other on the internet and it drives me bloody insane. I'd love to have good conversations, discussions on True Crime Cases with others like me who love to talk about it.....
Maybe I just talk too much cause I'm trapped on a tropical island with not a single friend here...
Wow I do talk to much, I'm rambling now... I'm sorry
Women have to always be aware of their surroundings. Pepper spray mace.
Thank you for keeping these cases alive or updated. I truly appreciate you.
How did I only find out about your channel now?! You've just made my night
Am I the only one who needs to know more about Buster the 3 legged search dog?
Great video . It's so strange how one can so completely disappear in a place filled with people. sad too..
It really amazes me as to how so many people can go missing or disappear without a trace...and what pisses me off is when someone does go missing the authorities always say, you gotta wait a certain amount of time before filing a missing persons report. Especially if the one who's missing is over 18...BS !!!
That's how it used to be...the 48 hr (or was it 24 hr?) wait is no longer done. You can file a missing person report right away now.
Excellent work! Thanks for the video.
thank you very much! the encouragement really does mean a lot.
I live on 8mile south Warren Michigan.. I was almost KIDNAPPED by a strange van.. it circled me as i walked.. i ran into a garage buy some workers.. and it finally drove off.. very scary..
Ugh Detroit ? Don’t doubt it get a gun jessh b careful
I'm from Detroit and had some guy tried to rob me. Luckily a police car was passing by and scared him off
I was kidnapped and molested in a van when i was 14 .
I was kidnapped and raped by a man in a van when i was teenager .
When parents of the missing pass away i think they know the truth about their children deaths when they connect with them in "heaven" (when something like that even exists) but i believe dead souls connect somewhere and that gives me some comfort that the parents then will know what happened to their loved ones.
MelK I'm gonna have to lay the bold truth on you. Yes souls go someplace however, either heaven. Or hell if one has not repented, believed in Yashua or kept Yah's laws during their life. So the happy ending thought of thinking everyone or thing unites after death in heaven no matter how they lived Is completely false. Yah Bless you to know him in Yashua's name.
Davidautofull dear friend I strongly recommend that you read your Holy bible king James version one more time if you have one. I'm not here for dispute or rudeness but If you can shallow any pride you may have and humble yourself do be corrected. First of all how do you know in all the world there are no prophets today? Just cause there names aren't in a book doesn't mean some do not exist today so that flaw should be cleared yes? Secondly God says to spread the gospel does he not? sense you mention the bible by his law yes, I am to do what he says to do. It's up to anyone to listen or not. So if you think me doing what he says is putting me incharge or that I'm above anyone or mightier than thou shalt ever be. Maybe you've got a completely wrong unstanding of how these things operate or that could just be your opinion. Now if what you did there was throw a Matthew 19:26 at me then my response to that is James 2:14-26 I incurage you to read that. If you didn't know faith without works is dead and If you think God will allow a murderer a theft an adulterer or any criminal of the below into paradise cause they had faith, you are so far from the truth with that conclusion please come back. Even satan believes in Yashua and God And their works he still ain't gonna make it. So I hope you find it within yourself to diligently study Gods word he has standards and they aren't low. As like a judge In court God is a judge only he is just and perfect. So with that by all means please do correct me if I am wrong but first see to it if I am. I look forward to meeting you in heaven, hope to see you there God bless Sir/Ma'am.
Honestly I don't believe God even exists and if people don't just stop existing when they die and they actually go somewhere, there wouldn't be heaven or hell, just a common middle ground for everyone
Davidautofull I'm gonna need some scriptures backing those statements cause I personally do not recall reading there are or will not be anymore prophet's ever. Also, I'm pretty sure if you go re-read my previous comment I said a person will be saved through repentance and I added, with also keeping Yah's law. So I don't know why you even mentioned '
"If a person repents then they'll be forgiven." When I already know this and I already said that.
Oh and Yashua never needed to be forgiven of anything cause he had no flaw...
Davidautofull Reporting back:
Have not found a single scripture stating there will not be anymore prophet's. Let me remind you this to dwell on. I have no idea why you even mentioned prophet's in the first place when the topic Here was life after death not prophet's. Maybe you need to re-read everybody's comment. I might have tater tots for supper please enjoy yours.
What amazing scumbags that would murder someone like that.
May want to look into the prisoners that lived next door in the halfway house!
Minor Threat True because prisoners confide in other prisoners .
Yeah and that guy finds blood in the alley in between the two buildings?? Pretty obvious what happened. But then again, it is SF so goodness knows who is in the case.
Great video, so interesting but extremely sad how people can vanish so quickly! Your doing a great job covering these cases :)
These videos are very informative. Thanks for bringing these cases to the forefront. You deserve more subscribers. Keep it up. I'm looking forward to more.
My gf Stephanie Parze disappeared back 1/30/2019... till this day no sign of her .. just vanished into thin air .. I pray for safe return & all missing ... ty for sharing your videos.. 🙏🏽
I lived close to where this happened, when this happened. That is exactly how you pronounce 'Depies'. Great job HeavyCaseFiles!!! You do your research!!!
great channel . But you need to turn up the volume on your voice a tad
Heartbreaking stories.
Why can't these guys accept a breakup and walk away instead of killing. This is all so sad. Innocent people running into monsters. We need more survalance cameras everywhere.
Can you please research the case of Kent Jacobs here in North Carolina. He was a disabled man who vanished one day and was never seen again. Foul play was thought of by the police but nothing ever came of it. Its sad that poor man needs to be found. Please and thanks I enjoy your channel
My heart and prayers go out to all these families of missing people. Such a gutwrenching tragedy to suffer.
Little good that does. But if it makes you feel better about yourself, then all's right. This is all about you after all.
@@princeofcupspoc9073
Expressions of sadness for others, and verbally consoling across great distances, is a very empathic response in humans.
So what broke you?
For those of you who say the hardest thing must be not knowing, you are so right. This post is a bit long sorry. As a person who's brother was never found because someone needed money on Christmas Eve. Yes the hardest thing is not knowing where the body is.
Both parents went to their grave thinking every time they saw a handsome tall 6-foot+ dark-haired blue-eyed young man he might be my brother. Even on trips for charity service in other countries one time my father would go back to the same restaurant five days in a row thinking the young waiter might be my brother. He'd forgotten my brother would have aged 13 years. If they heard a deep laugh in a group at a restaurant they would always turn their head and look.
My sister hates him for how he disrupted the family how everybody wonders about him Etc she feels neglected because of it. I understand that she was the baby of the family, always spoiled had never really liked him because well he took away the Shine from her as he was the only son. She was also the only genetic child of our parents as my brother and I were adopted brother and sister so she felt we had ganged up on her. It wasn't true it just was a problem with the adoptive mother and her family not accepting the adopted children. So sad as you're not necessarily born into the house you belong to. Jesus Christ himself was an adopted child.
My brother was a really nice guy not aggressive never judgmental or pushing his weight around. He was extremely intelligent had earned his way through two bachelor's degrees in 3 years on his own with no help financially when he found out he had a brain tumor that was inoperable & his scholarship for med school was pulled as well. Why waste money on someone like him. But he didn't let it get him down. He said he could work until he couldn't work any longer and went to work in Social Services for the Salvation Army in their rehabilitation program for ex-convicts. Basically he made his life a Success no matter what it handed him. Being of mixed race and looking ethnically different than those around him was something he had to learn and grow from and he did. He felt it wasn't purely their fault or his it was just society as a whole since the beginning of time. No one could hold him down and he couldn't hold a grudge.
After mom died only 3 years after her son disappeared, dad remarried a friend of the family. Her family had been very close to my brother and they really missed him.
He'd moved back to our hometown while the rest of us were stuck in California. So everybody where we came from was excited that part of our family came home. He loved our adoptive family & our hometown. To him he felt like he was living in Paradise to me I thought he was. Small town safe what could go wrong?
Our extended family took him in and he became one of I would say everybody's family. He loved everybody and when he was gone there was this big hole in everybody's life as he was the one you called if you needed a little help moving furniture, babysitting Landscaping Etc. Several cousins and cousins-in-law working for the Sheriff's Department worked diligently looking and putting together the case. It is a very rural area but not in the south. Most of them were trained in the military or in the big city and then came home so they are professionals. In an area like that you can't help but have family on the force but they didn't have to work that hard to find who did it. The fool was caught on video tape red-handed with evidence and passing forged checks of my brothers. Sadly they couldn't find the body and nothing led to a strong enough conviction probability with the DA so they had to let it go.
The saddest part here is our birth family had contacted us that year. We were making arrangements to meet them. It was true after all it had been a medical incident that made them lose custody both were in the hospital at the same time and couldn't get to the courthouse to state they didn't want their children going up for adoption. We were fast-tracked like 60,000 other children in the area in the early 60s. Children for sale. My brother was excited to find out our parents had been looking for us and we had other siblings. He lived within driving range but we didn't know where they lived yet as The Sibling who contacted us was keeping everything close to the vest. Sadly not only did both parents on that side pass away with no answers so did two siblings aunts and uncles Etc all those who've been waiting hoping we'd be found. For him to be lost so quickly after being found just devastated them. I know both brothers would have really benefited from knowing each other having grown up in all girl households. Now we are the only sibling left to each other and we keep in touch because the losses are our common ground.
To this day I & relatives still search, Sheriff still send out DNA, but in my heart I know he's gone. I've known since the day he didn't call mom for Christmas. He never missed a holiday for her he might not call us kids as I had just talked to him the week before and we were all going to be over at Mom and Dad's anyway but he always had to talk to Mom. As the mothers holidays went by I knew he was gone and she also came to accept that.
Now 27 years later the pain is just as deep, questions just as hard and you still look over your shoulder when you hear a deep male laugh.
I love how these videos get straight to the point everytime. No shameless promotions or glamour poses of UA-camrs in the thumbnail. I enjoy your voice too. Its very soothing and you get all of the information available on each case rather than skim through it. 👍❤️❤️❤️ Bravo. You are a gem of a channel. I know the content is dark but it's good to be aware of such things, especially the lesser known missing/murdered people that you do :)
God bless Buster the 3 legged dog. ♥️❤️💖 In Kristins case, there were remnants of her DNA in the spot he sniffed up, admittedly it was years later but still. Buster was on the right track. It would seem she's no longer with us 😓😔
Yeah I hate the youtubers acting fake upset/shocked. It's not about YOU it's about the missing person!!
What really scares me is that if they all can disappear forever, without a trace... then so could anyone of us, at any given moment. That being said, I won't be sleeping soundly tonight....🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Just as scary as that is to me, is the Jane & John Does that have been found (thousands) and not identified.
DNA has helped some regain their identity, but it is a costly process. I wonder if they've considered using a facial recognition program? Maybe this can help link the missing, with the found, but nameless.
@Evie Hammond This world is full of evil and can be scary. The thing is this life is not the end for us. We are created uniquely by God YHVH, in his image, and he loves us. If you're saved and walk in his ways you are protected and if anything does happen you will have everlasting life! You can know that peace and not walk in fear knowing you are loved. Isaiah 54:17 "No weapon formed against you shall prosper..." Someone could hurt or kill your body but they cannot kill your soul and salvation for eternity. There is a plan for everyone's life but it's their free will whether they choose to walk in darkness or in the light. Furthermore we all will stand before God and be held accountable for our actions. Those that did evil will be held accountable to a just God. That is scarier than any threat from this world. Someone may disappear with a trace but it's not forever and God knows what happened. This life is short and you're correct something could happen at any given time so we must make sure we are walking in the truth and in the light where we spend eternity with our creator. We have his Word and salvation through the Messiah Jesus (Yeshua) to get through the evil in this world.
@Comment on All the Things!
I was just making a statement. I didn't say I've just recently come to this conclusion, only that these videos & their content remind me of that fact all the more. Thanks though, for confirming the existence of evil & negativity thats still seemingly alive & well in our current environment.
Taylor Cunningham
Amen, Taylor! Amen! Thank you for posting your timely message.
We are seeing God working in so many things, though to some it may not show. He works through all. Things, to bring about good. ❤️🙏🙌
Exactly why one must be prepared to be taken at any given moment. How? through Yashua. You better come home with me.
O.k., on the Kristin in Oakland case I am confused about the classified ad found in her room. You state the police couldn't tell if she placed it or answered it or just clipped it, but never did anything about it. The ad ended "call me". Which would indicate there was a phone number included. If she placed it the phone number would have to be one where she could be reached. If it wasn't, then the police would have the resources to find out whose number it was and question that person. Was this not done?
LodiTX * I also think its strange why didn't the police go to the news paper and ask them the name and address , phone number of the person who placed this add , that is what I would have done if I was a police officer,. I think that they didn't do a very good job checking out things and people! 😇
No one should ever live in Oakland
Nickie Colón Well, Gertrude Stein said, "There is no there, there." about Oakland, which I always enjoyed; but my son and his partner bought a 1906 house there about 11 years ago and when they sold it last year they made enough profit to relocate and pay cash for their new house. Prices anywhere in the Bay Area are so ridiculous, it's a sellers' market. So it does pay to live and buy in Oakland.
Anna Ells No, it's obvious they didn't do anything but follow up on ridiculous phone in leads. It's very disheartening the way TV gives such an inaccurate fictional view of real police dedication and competence. I have to wonder about her parents. I would have done anything to keep my 17 year old daughter from going cross country to rent a room with total strangers in an area where she didn't know a soul.
@@loditx7706 the crime rate is insane and not worth the money. I live here I'd know.
I’ll never get over the first case. She made it all the way to her boyfriend house and should’ve been safe. Always be vigilant
Really enjoy your videos ! Well researched , nice voice and music. Well done !
I pray that the missing are in a better place.
A lot of good that does. If you want to actually do something to help, then do it.
Any place is better than this place honestly; I don’t wanna die I want to live as long as I can but this place is not anything to get excited about
I watch these late at night and I thought this said Mail Workers gone missing, which would also be an interesting segment.
WOW For TRUMP All mall workers should have a co worker walk them to there car or wait at a bus stop with them to make sure they get home safe.
@@liztrainer895 I agree. But I think it would be more logical that it be security personnel, you know the ones that drive around malls all night. They're already on sight so they could just step it up abit & make sure all mall employees make it to their car or bus, whatever the case may be. I think it's possibly just as dangerous for a co-worker to do it, ESPEC if it's 2 young women..in that case, they could both be abducted. Just another idea along the same lines as you suggested. God Bless the families of all these victims 🙏💔
Mall parking lots have creeped me out for years. So large, so dark. Many years ago, a woman was kidnapped, raped and murdered from a mall very near my home. Another woman was dragged to death when someone in a car attempted to purse-snatch her. I never go to malls after dark.
omg... this sh** got me sad, foreals. You really can't trust ppl.
It's only a few shitty individuals. The vast majority of people are pretty nice actually. We don't hear about the millions of acts of kindness done daily. Just the idiocy makes the headlines. Don't lose all your hope just yet!
@@donnavorce8856 it ONLY takes one to ruin your whole life... never trust.. NEVER..
You need to be vigilant at all times.. NEVER never NEVER let your gaurd down... nope never.. not even a love interest...
@@jennifersuzannebk5149 That is so true.I learned this the hard way.
why did you censor shit
This channel full of pain and memories 😔
Wow, the first young lady possibly went missing only after two minutes of having pulled into the parking lot of her boyfriend's apartment?! That's just too incredible.
This is why I pray for my family and I. Because they are monsters like that Hall out there (the first case).
David Meyers Your family are monsters?? Are they killers?? Why don’t you turn them in to police??
@@andrewkennedy-reagan3289 you are nuts if you don't understand what he's saying!
"my family and ME" Please learn basic English grammar.
Suzanne went missing right across from my job now. I was baby when it happen thats scary and i feel the boyfriend knows more that he is letting us know
Unbelievably sad! My heart goes out to the families involved.
My sister went missing in 1976. It took us 12 days to identify her as a murder victim, found in the next county. My oldest sister had heard the report of a body found, but they stated she was in her early 20s. My sister was only 16. We identified her the day before she was going to be buried as a Jane Doe. As sad as we were, we were so glad we found her. I cannot imagine having a missing family member and never knowing. That would be torture.
I am so sorry for your loss.
I totally feel for these people, and thats why I watch these videos because my best friend, also working in a mall, disappeared for almost two years now, i actually found his 2003 Citroen Xsara parked with the drivers door open, but never was able to detect him, his found was left in the car so was his wallet. Still a mystery...
You put out some of the best content that I've seen. Keep up the good work!
In the case of Mark Ramin, I can understand a little of his mind because I also have a strong need for structure and routine in my day-to-day. If something happens and disrupts that routine it causes a lot of frustration. I don't know how badly I would be affected if that disruption was being fired from a long time job, but it could have been devastating for him.
Wow, my sister and I grew up in the same household, we have different fathers tho. Her father’s sister has a 26 year old daughter who has just disappeared. I’ve always been a lover of all things true crime, but now that it’s real life, it’s hard to watch. We handed out flyers over the weekend. My sister has been on our local news twice. Her son with her mother with a million questions. It’s crazy.
I can't even imagine. I hope you find her soon, safe.
Was she found?
I just subscribed to your excellent channel... Keep up the good work! ☺
I call bs on that man who said he lured Lori with an album of vintage cars. Imagine a guy hits on you in a mall and you say no thanks then he shows up AT YOUR HOME and wants to show you pictures of cars. Who is going to say sounds good and go over there and chat with Creepster McGee?
Malls used to be so much fun to shop & work. Now, they are the "Main Street" for all foreigners. Fuggetaboutit. But, every few years, I do drive to the door of my favorite mall store (accompanied by another person) to catch a great sale & big haul. I am always on alert same as I am walking into a Home Depot, Walmart, any other parking lot store.
Babbage's. Wow, haven't thought of that store in eons. Great video!
Yeah, being able to build a PC does not make you a "computer expert."
I'm not a rocket scientist. But if you are scared to be put on death row etc, then stop killing people or at least stop admitting to doing the crimes. That's about ignorant as hell.
You are not a rocket scientist, but you are also not a psychologist. Your understanding of the human mind is lacking. Your statement is "ignorant as hell."
Wow, what a great job! Detailed and professional. Thank you. Exposure like this reminds all of us to be mindful of our surroundings and to be cautious. Take care everyone
The narration is too quick and doesnt flow as well as it could. I found it hard to get into. Slowing down slightly, projecting your voice a little, and emphaizing certain important words would greatly help. Im a professional listener (haha) im a court stenographer and really LISTEN when people talk. I couldnt make it through this entire video cause the narration isnt nearly as good as it should be. Lovely voice wth tons and tons of potential though i must say! Keep at it xoxox much love ❤
Try listening to tops5 the narrator has smooth voice and relaxing.
I’m suspicious of Laurie’s boyfriend.
Tru Hill Me too
they found who did it...
@@melodiechartier5173 Who?
No, I don’t think he did it. Dude was/is torn up about it. If you watch him in a interview you can tell.
Suspicious he lawyered up
i am imagine the immense guilt laurie’s bf felt knowing she was right outside never left him despite it 100% was not and never will be his fault. women should be able to live their life and not feel like we’re in a horror movie 24/7 :(
You narrations are great , such a lovely voice .😃
Background music is very soothing
UA-cam's recommending your videos to a lotta people
Good channel! Brings cases to light, hope & prayers for the missing and their families 🙏🏻
Have to remind everyone.. the parents leave this world not knowing what happened to their child... but who do you think greets them when they die? they Do find out and get to live in the other world w their child again..
Recently found this channel and I'm really enjoying it!
I don’t get how at 11 min 40 seconds the police couldnt figure out if she placed the add. It has a phone number. They just needed to ask her family if it was hers
Great video. I grew up in the Albany, Ny area. I remember Suzanne's case well. We ALL do. But just a quick edit...the NYS police # is 518 not 519. I just subbed and will check out some more of your videos. 👍
sarah horton I grew up in Clifton Park. Suzanne’s case drives me insane.
Suzannes boyfs alibi is rubbish. His friend suspecting he knew he was playing with him online in a different location due to his moves... seems to me he did it and that's the only lie they could come up with that would get the friend off the hook if the friend was found out to be lying... investigate boyfriend again I say
Great video!! Love your channel!
Thank you for covering cases that don't get much coverage. Other than the dissaperanc of Susan Lyal, I hadn't heard of any of these cases.
There is evil. And I despise it.
Excellent Video especially since you do not rehash cases done by other Crime Mystery Channels
These stories hit close to home
I was almost kidnapped when i was 16years old(now 40)
I remember being followed for blocks by a car with 3 males in it
(No cell phone at that time for me)
They followed me till I was right across the street from my building
I screamed Jesus name and closes my eyes
When I opened my eyes and looked back at the man they looked at me then walked away
All praise to God for always protecting me
I have never heard of a three-legged search dog. Buster is smart and brave.
Some of these people don't really disappear. They just become a different person.
Thank you for ur thourogh & hard work..
"The Springfield Three" always strikes me as worse than other murder stories. How would you like to be a part of a group of people which are murdered in the first place? Then you are always tied to such a name that a lot of people know? It's terrifying.
Was this case ever resolved ? I saw it on Disappeared .
These days more crystal meth users roam, sexual urges twisted and paramount to them. Riding bikes or walking alone should be avoided. Watch your kids like a hawk for God's sake. It's unbelievable how many murders and kidnappings there are....
I honestly don't think the crime rate is going up. People are just more aware. Also someone that looks like a methhead or a methhead could pontentially save you from a crime and someone who looks like an angel could act like a devil. Just be careful and watch your children either way.
I think many of these mysteries have very obvious solutions. They usually lead to one particular (sometimes glaring) individual. I can't believe the police haven't charged some people in these cases.
I agree, that in some cases there very evidently IS a person that sticks out like a sore thumb, and they seem to be discarded on very flimsy grounds..and not grilled in any way that should be normal procedure in an investigation of a missing person. I have reacted over that fact so many times looking at these cases. It seems extremely odd to me.
In Susanne's case here, the bf and his video playing friend should have been well barbecued in questioning. They could both be guilty of whatever happened to her. Two young dudes giving one another an alibi of -We played video games, seems to me to be a very bad alibi to hold water and should be scrutinized thoroughly.
Not what you know. It's what you can prove. Even more so in this age of hard evidence, or 'the CSI effect', most circumstantial evidence is hardly viewed as evidence anymore.
For a suspect to actually got to prison, the police must prove beyond reasonable doubt that the suspect committed the crime. This means that hard evidence must be collected and prioritized over circumstancial evidence.
It doesn't really suffice to say "these dudes look shady and they don't have a strong alibi for this time and day". Especially when in trial the defendant could argue against the prosecutor's case (thus creating reasonable doubt).
Honestly in Suzanne's case I wouldn't immediately pinpoint to the boyfriend. He collaborated from the very beginning with LE and was the first to blow the whistle on Suzanne not making it to her dorm that night. I imagine he hired a lawyer afterwards when he found out LE could be developing tunnel vision for him.
This isn't mentioned in this video but some other people who have covered the cases say that Suzanne told a friend a couple weeks before she vanished that she suspected she had a stalkee whom she couldn't recognize, LE could also look into that direction.
What about cases that have literally NO physical evidence collected, but still make convictions on witness testimony (the MOST unreliable evidence), circumstantial evidence, and viable methods/reasons to be pointed on as means, motive, and opportunity?
My point was more so that circumstantial evidence hold much more value that what it is given these days. While, of course, and obviously, hard physical evidence will always be prioritized, it must also be proven that this "hard evidence" was left there at (x) time during (x) event. Slightly more thought to do when the suspect lived (and touched, sweat, and bled) in, say, the same house as the victim.
It's not always cut & dry, and very often convoluted (and yes, biased to all hell)
Obvious...sure, BUT he can’t charge someone with a crime if there is no way to connect that person. You have to be able to prove your point with evidence. If he had been arrested and charged on flimsy evidence and found not guilty, they would never be able to charge him again because of double jeopardy. You have to have something solid because you are only going to get one shot at him being convicted, and you don’t want to waste that one shot.
The Suzanne Lyall case is so strange. It's completely unfathomable how she literally vanished without a trace! Not a shred of evidence whatsoever to point to her whereabouts.
As a one time mall store owner (94-00) these hit right in my wheel house. We never had anyone go missing from the mall my store was at.
Is that number at 25:44 correct? 519 is an area code for Ontario Canada
I’ve always believed that Suzanne Lyall was killed by her boyfriend. The others not so clear cut for me.
Maybe because you don't have any of the information needed to solve the cases? No, it always has to be the one person you heard about. It wasn't any of the hundred people NOT talked about who interacted with them... Sure. You go. You know what's the truth. I wish all the police units were replaced with your gut reaction based on scant evidence.
I wonder if they went through all the people who knew she bought the ring who might have wanted to rob her.
EVery time I hear about a missing woman and hear she was walking with another woman, stranger, I automatically think human trafficking. Esp when that woman is never found and the missing person leaves no trace.
The Modeferri case has to be Onuma or another guy associated through a girl they were both with, or the girl, because Onuma called in the fake tip, and him and Jill Lampo were partners, she was also with a dude named Matthew Luque, and Luque was good friends with a dude who she worked with named Kelly Strathman.
Modafferi coworkers with Strathman,
Strathman good friends with Luque,
Luque lovers with Lampo,
Lampo lovers with Onuma,
Onuma calls in the fake tip.
It is mathematically improbable to not be someone connected to that group in a city of 1 million. Just so happened that Onuma calls in the fake tip?
Onuma went to Hawaii where he "worked" for a cult leader and con artist named George Patrick Dubie, who is also allegedly connected to the murder of a sex worker in Hawaii named Sonja Lysiuk who allegedly worked for him. George Patrick Dubie was later shot and killed in Thailand by one of his many concubines Margaret Crane who allegedly helped him procure women and children.
It is possible that she is still alive and is controlled by a cult/organization and/or is a sex slave.
There are some that are allegedly formerly Dubies victims and cult members that say that Crane (and I think some of them) ran a "mall photo scam" where she would lure in young women for Dubie. Essentially Ghislaine Maxwell type of woman who was also once his victim/cult member.
Hall’s case is famous for the twin brother angle AND for the Indiana conman who was ‘assigned’ to gain his friendship in prison in order to get him to confess. The conman saw the challenge as an opportunity to do something redemptive for society. It’s like something out of a movie.
I wonder how many of these were trafficked.
It’s noteworthy that if a person’s eyes are not set symmetrically level on the face-either one eye is set lower on the vertical/longitudinal axis-or else one or both outer eye margins are slanted downwards instead of level straight across, it is a red flag for neurologic aberrancy, as well as potential for increased intracranial pressure (which can evoke violence) and/or cranial nerve irritability.
awesome xhannel i subscribed
I continue to follow you you have an excellent command of the English language and I find you to have professional qualities
I always feel bad for the Nike Man. Whenever anyone talks about the Lyall case there is always a section on him even though he had nothing to do with this.
Yea that's a good point, he was the one that was heavily focused on but later just became a distant person of interest. However it would be interesting for them to release parts of his testimony for the public to understand exactly how he was involved if at all or maybe just what he witnessed on any level that might shed some light. I read somewhere that the Nike man claimed to see someone at stewards that resembled Isreal keyes which could possibly add to further conclusions
You always do a phenomenal job working on these cases‼️. You now have a new fan and subscriber ‼️
In 1965, after the largest blackout that occured throughout the US, a company called "Tracers Company" was commissioned to count the population and reported that 4 million people had disappeared. The authorities never gave any explanation.
Source? 🙄
That sounds like bullshit, there is probably bias in the study.