INDIAN vs HONDA - Which Is Better? The Goldwing or the Indian Pursuit | Cruiseman's Reviews
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- I compare the features of the 2018 Honda Goldwing to the 2022 Intian Pursuit. Which is the better touring bike?
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I traded a 2013 Victory Cross Country Tour in on a 21 GW Tour DCT because I was impressed with the DCT and torque of the Honda. And on paper, it was the best touring bike out there based on my research. I quickly figured out I didn't like the riding position, the saddlebag storage makes no sense and is small, and I thought wind management was poor. Fit and finish was nice and the bike was fun to ride. My wife did not like the passenger area. We stopped into an Indian dealer while out on my Honda and test rode a 21 Indian Challenger Limited..... I bought it. I kept both for a few months but 99% of the time I chose to throw my leg over the Challenger. I sold the Honda with only 500 miles on it. The Challenger is a better fit for me. I agree with most of Cruiseman's review, (BTW, Thanks for your content. I watched all your stuff when I had the Honda) but he gave some points to Honda that aren't important to me. Center stand...I only used it in my garage. Phone storage area...both are equal. A Note 10+ fits equally into both. Passenger seating...my wife rode on both bikes and the Indian with tour pack was hands down better for her. Top heavy...I actually felt like the Honda was more top heavy than the Challenger. Maybe it's because you sit more "on" the GW and more "in" the Indian. To each his own. I have 15K miles on the Challenger and am happy with my choice but I can see how some might prefer the Goldwing. It's nice that we have options!
Glad you found the bike that fits your style!
Terry
Thanks for your viewpoint. Physically do you mind giving height& weight dimensions. I am considering GW, K1600 and Indian models.
@@markrowe6672 I'm 5'11, 260lbs, 32 inch inseam.
It's hard to find a replacement for a Victory XCT with all it's leg room and storage. If I ever replace mine both of these bikes are at the top of my list.
I don’t mean to be disrespectful because I really liked your post, but like you I bought a Victory Vegas along with my Goldwing and felt the rug pulled out from me when Polaris discontinued Victory and bought Indian. I wouldn’t put my trust in Polaris not doing that again.
Love my Gold wing DTC. Wife hates the seat and harsh ride in the back. I am keeping the DTC, trading my wife in on an Indian…
Man has his priorities straight :D
I’m thinking on a Goldwing and the reason is for my wife to be comfortable plus I like it as well. I now am second guessing weather or I should buy one . I thought goldwings were the standard for comfort
I traded mine for a chevy 1/2 ton, smaller box and A smoother ride..😅😂😅
DCT.
ahaha LOL
Great review, Chris, as usual. I love your clarity on the differences between objective points, and personal subjective points. You clearly are making a huge effort to not "lead" the viewer to a pre-ordained conclusion. Nice job.
I sold my challenger due to a number of issues. nav frequently got lost on main roads, throttle response at times acted like it was not connected, fuel economy was high 20s when riding one up at normal speeds, plugging an android phone into USB port to charge it while riding caused problems with the phone, and at 5 foot 8 inches tall, the reach to handle bars is extreme and limited my ability to turn handlebars. never had any issues with a goldwing
Smooth move!
You can get short reach bars for the Challenger.
@@nattcharles they were not available when I looked for them, supply issues I was told plus $$ for install and the electronic issues made the bike almost unrideable. One of the many that had unresolveable software issues.
Throttle was fixed with the flash. Did you get the flash?
@@cartrack730 got rid of the bike without the flash being done. Too many other issues with the electronics that made me hesitant to ride more than 50 miles from home. Always got the no problems found and the next time I would ride the bike, a new one would pop up.
Mr. Cruiseman, I really enjoyed your comparison. Seemed subjective but honest to me. At age 85, I'm very happy with my 2018 GW DCT with a Motor Trike conversion. Going to see if I can ride until age 100!
I think you will!
I disagree strongly. I think your analysis was fair, balanced and as objective as possible. So many guys are so brand loyal that they demonstrate an obvious bias, but you however, did not!
I think you missed the fact that the Pursuit has a cooled seat and the Goldwing has a washboard for a passenger seat.
Another really nice comparison review! Very thorough and detailed. Good job!
Having owned both the goldwing and Roadmaster, both have different area’s of strength. Both comfortable and powerful. Comes down to preferred riding style “feet forward” and styling! I prefer the American design and built Roadmaster!
Stick a 126 Lloyd'z kit in your Roadie', you will not regret it!
I am not a fan of the latest Goldwing, but the previous incarnation is great. My vote is for that over the Indian. My brother has the Indian and we occasionally swap for fun and I like it, but the Goldwing is still the one that gets my vote. Good review !!
A couple of the other Posters would probably be happier with the older GW. It still handles great, has larger storage capacity, very reliable and built in U.S.A. until 2006(ish?).
Yes, fair. I have 21 Goldwing tour dct. I love it. I had a 17 Road Glide Ultra. The Pursuit seems like the perfect compromise between the two, and intrigues me quite a lot. Finances suggest I should remain grateful for what I have... But if the Honda gives me any trouble, I'll probably take a closer look. The one thing that I really do appreciate is the low speed weight distribution... The bike feels so much lighter just because the weight is down low. It's glorious, and I never thought I'd care before. I do now.
100%
My thoughts as well...
That’s important to me, also. I’d like a better radio and updated infotainment screen on the Goldwing. That said, when you’re maneuvering to park on a steeply crowned road or parking lot with a group of big-bike riders all struggling to do the same thing, you appreciate the low center of gravity and reverse/forward crawl mode!
Very good and fair comparison. I had a 2020 Challenger Limited and traded it for my current 2021 Gold Wing 6 speed Tour. I love my Gold Wing, but do miss aspects of the Challenger. To me they are different enough to be in separate classes. Super smooth flat six vs a nice big v twin.
I'm still in love with my Challenger. No issues after 17,000 miles. The clear coat is very soft on the bike. I had it ceramic coated to help with that. I get about 39MPG in sport mode on the daily rides and have gotten 42 on long highway rides.
It's a solid bike that I will be holding on to for a while.
I'm on a 1200gs right now and a streetglide 107 before this one. The Harley blew up at 18k miles hence the bmw. I've been thinking heavily on a GW as I'm 70 and my adventures are more comfortable these days. That Indian sounds really nice though. Thanks for the comparison, it was helpfull.
Great comparison of two fine machines. I am a current HD owner with two HD that are getting older (2003 & 2005). I owned a GW years ago and it was a fine machine. I test rode one a short time ago, but feel cramped with my legs not in the forward position. I recently took the new BMW tourer with the boxer engine, but after a half hour had to get off and stretch my legs due to the angle, perhaps I am getting too old. The Pursuit is on my short list and I look forward to a test drive.
I’ve got a Transcontinental and the leg rests make a world of difference (I’m 6’1”, 240 lbs).
Thanks for the comparison. I was looking forward to this and you did not disappoint 👍
Fair review. Learned some things and was entertained. Hard to beat. Thank you
Great review. I’ve owned a Roadmaster and several Goldwings. Currently I have a Goldwing Trike. I agreed with everything in your review but I also realize all riders have different priorities when it comes to the things they look for in a bike. I ride a trike do to medical issues. At the end of the day the thing that means the most to me is reliability and cost. The Goldwing wins hands down. But again, just my experiences.
That’s why it’s so important to have a bunch of different perspectives and dealers that actually allow long solo test drives
Great honest comparison. Congrats Chris. Very accurate and informative. Greets from Yucatan, Mexico
That was the best thought out and constructed video comparing these bikes I’ve ever seen! Wow! Thankyou so much….you covered every aspect
Thanks for your in-depth review. I own a 2015 F6B Deluxe (ridden 60,000 miles) and a 2012 GL1800 (which we had triked with the CSC kit 2 years ago, ridden 101,000 miles total). I have to say, after hearing your comments about the new generation Goldwings (2018+), I think I still prefer the 2nd Gen GL1800's (F6B and Goldwing - 2012 thru 2017). I personally like the styling of the prior generation, and it sounds like the maintenance is far easier. As for "tech", my 2 older Goldwings are just fine with a Garmin Zumo that I can instantly switch between the two, and bluetooth integration to the speakers via an small, inexpensive bluetooth transmitter/receiver that I got on Amazon. Also, I am averaging 42 mpg on the F6B; with a 6.6 gallon tank which gives me a range of 275 miles - 33 mpg on the Trike; with a 10 gallon tank for a range of 330 miles. In many ways, I think Honda went backward on the 2018+ models. Thanks again, Cruiseman - ride safe.
Great video. You did a great job pointing out small but important stuff that veteran riders definitely wanna see. That battery tender is awesome
Another Great Review Cruise Man. Thank you.
Excellent, detailed, and fair comparison. Well done sir!
Nice job on the review. 2021 DCT here. Agreed: the tech needs to be streamlined. Owned a 2016 Indian Chieftain Darkhorse - will never buy another Indian. Mine ran super hot all the time. Thankfully the Pursuit is liquid cooled but I doubt seriously it’s as cool running as the GW. The feeling I get from the GW cannot be matched by another touring bike in my humble opinion.
Fabulous review….best motovlogger comparo I’ve watched, keep up the good work
Fantastic review. Very well balanced. The only thing it cant tell you about is reiability. I have had many Honda motorcycles one of which was a Gold Wing and currently own an Indian Vintage and a Scout. We purchased the Indians for the styling and history and that they deliver in that regard. But both have had more problems than all the Hondas combined. Issues have been numerous recalls for saftey issues such as bad neutral switch causing the bike to lurch forward as it is in gear, faulty switches that are not weather proof causing poor or no starting, cannot toggle displays due to the switch failure, starter solenoid failure. Some issues are design on these two bikes such as poor handeling on the Vintage, such as rake causing poor handeling. By comparison the 1981 Wing was purchased in the UK, shipped to Canada before being ridden to the southern tip of south America and back to Canada only requireing spark plugs, oil changes, air cleaners and tires. Honda dealer network for service is far superior and you can phone Honda and talk to a tech. Last time I spoke to Indian they told me techs dont speak to customers. I was stranded when the fob de programmed and the bike wont start. No local dealer able to fix it in Texas so have to trailer it hundreds of miles. Also never had a really bad Honda dealer but have had two really bad ones in Texas though really good in other places.
My opinion is if you are buying it to ride rather than the electronics or to be seen styling buy the Honda.
Good comment. I have never owned an Indian, but I have two friends that do. I know both have had minor nuisance issues with their bikes but I don’t recall exactly what. I currently own a Harley Electra Glide and an 08 GoldWing GL1800. I love them both for very different reasons but if I had to choose one over the other, I would keep the Wing. No question
Really enjoyed your comment. From time to time I think about updating to a new Goldwing, even though there's nothing really wrong with my old one, a 1980 GL1100. It would be nice to have a power adjustable windscreen, and a fairing with better high speed stability & lower drag. Other than that - the GL1100 is just about as close to perfect as I can imagine. I consider that model to be the first, best transcontinental adventure bike. I had a knobby on it for a while and found out it wasn't too shabby off road - although you're not going to win any races against a two-stroke RM250 in the dirt, I still never got stuck in mud or wet grassy ditches in the rain. And it still runs like new, although it's not faster than any Harley anymore since Harley engines have steadily increased power over the last few years. I just have to come to terms with the fact that it's no longer the Mike Tyson of heavyweight motorcycles anymore. It's a big adjustment to fall from that throne. Maybe I'll just modify the fairing + windscreen & call it a day
@@jackandblaze5956 …. Haha! Sometimes we have to fall hard to face reality. That was funny
Extremely fair evaluation. Very comprehensive evaluation. I appreciate how you explain your evaluation based on your style.
Very fair review. Very comprehensive. But your video editing skills are quite good!
Great review! Much appreciate the clear and concise way you approach each point in the discussion. I have been considering the pursuit and not even interested at all in a gold wing, but you got me thinking...more options!
Great video and I really dig your objective style. I was torn a couple years ago and went with the Challenger limited. Approaching 20K trouble free miles.
Really nice video about 2 bikes 🏍
Thank You 😊!
Well Mr CMan, I do love your videos on the Goldwings. I’m a GSA man myself but love all the content you put out. Keep up the great work my friend and thank you 👍👍👍👍
I really loved your video Man well done
Good evaluation, road tested the 2022 DTC and liked it "better then the first addition of the DTC" hope to test ride the Pursuit next year.
I have a 2020 Goldwing DCT and I can't see me ever going back to a manual transmission, however I also have a 12012 Kawasaki 900 Vulcan for local commuting. I always seem to have trouble finding neutral (and that applies to all of the bikes I have owned over the years). One thing I like about the Honda is its low centre of gravity, the top heavy feel of the Indian concerns me. I do like the look of the tech though, so it might be a quick trip to my local Indian dealer for a test ride, just to make sure I am not pre judging too harshly. Great review with lots of (to me anyway) really relevant points.
I don't really have any input on this comparison as I only have an older GL1500 Goldwing but I wanted to say how impressed I was with your presentation and objectivity! I look forward to more videos, new subscriber 👍
Very nice job on this Vlog. I haven't ridden either one but am interested in both. Currently riding an R1200RT water cooled which I really like a lot. You probably said but I don't remember hearing the weight of these 2 bikes. Super heavy for sure but I can look it up. Thank You for some great input.
To my surprise, the regular Challenger is almost as heavy as the Goldwing Tour! I wouldn't be surprised to find the Pursuit weighs more than the Goldwing.
Hi Chris, congrats for another great video. I owned a 2019 Goldwing and I always take into consideration all your qualified comments and upgrade suggestions for this bike. I think one item that is important in the comparison is the performance between both bikes. If you need to overtake a car or a long truck on some roads the bike response is very important, also for safety reasons. If you have some feedback about the overtaking performance of both bikes I will appreciate. Greetengs from Argentina!
Excellent review. Very fair and highly informative. (2018 DCT Tour owner).
Wow, what a great and unbiased review. I’ve had wings back to ‘98 and love them. But that pursuit sure looks good. Thanks for all the detail!
Good review, thanks
These are effective reviews…much thanks
Excellent review. Thanks.
I like your approach to comparing similar motorcycles and your reviews sound fair. Well done, then!
Excellent review!
Great review cruiseman. Im considering trading in my 2018 DCT for a Pursuit. This video provides me with a few more data points
Once again another Excellent review. I dont see how anyone could do a more fair comparison
Great review. These are the only two bikes I found that could replace my Victory Vision. As advanced as the Vision was in 2008 it's starting to fall behind compared to the 2022 Goldwing and Pursuit. Now I need to decide if I want Goldwing's DCT with reverse and walk or the Pursuit's Tech and ease of use. Thanks for the detailed review.
Thought he said he has a 2018 Goldwing not 2022 as opposed to a current model Indian.
@@barrygattenhof9903 , Yes he has a 2018 GW. But I'm interested in a current Wing or Pursuit not a 2018.
Yea, but the Vision has that unique styling though. I like it, personally.
A1 comparison. Bravo, I tell ya. Bravo!!
Chris, great comparison presentation. I too would select the GW if I was buying new. Why, the paint, the balance at slow speed, and 89 octane fuel, those three things are deal killers for me on the Indian. However, if I was a V twin guy, much better than HD.
Cruiseman,
Happy Christmas!
Thank you for your reviews. One critique. You give points for each feature / attribute in your reviews. Giving points treats each attribute as being of equal importance (value) to the potential buyer. May I suggest that you first create a weighting for each attribute that you will be reviewing. (Total of attribute weightings = 100).This attribute weighting would be personal to you. Discussing the weightings before you give points will provide a deeper meaning to the final score comparison when each score is multiplied by the weighting and then totaled at the end. Adding a weighting to each attribute would give your reviews more depth and meaning as it relates to future purchase intentions.
Great channel!
Jonathan
Great review!!!!
Nice review, as always 👍
Love these comparisons.
Still undecided but Goldwing has been the dream machine in my head for so long..currently riding a cruiser.
Go for it!
I just switched from a VTX to a bagger Goldwing love it do it u won't regret it.
Nice review, Cruiseman! I think your review was fair and impartial. You did a good job! I'm thinking about getting an Indian Challenger as a second bike but to never replace my 2018 Honda Goldwing Tour DCT Airbag! And yes, I've test rode a Challenger twice with some distance. In regards to cost of purchase, let me tell you something people should be aware of. Both companies charge for shipping and setup; however, when the pandemic hit and logistics became a problem, Indian corporate began charging a surcharge for shipping. Here we are over two years later and the Indian corporate are charging purchasers a $800 fee above and dealership's shipping and setup charges! This fact stopped me from buying during the pandemic and have me thinking twice about buying one now even though one dealership has the perfect one for me. Thanks for sharing!
Appreciate the in-depth reviews. I would point out that you tested a Premium edition and I haven’t heard mention of the Smart Lean Technology in the Pursuit.
Good job. Thanks
Great review cruse man, on pricing. We're you compareing the indion to a MANUAL gold wing or the DCT version you have?
Cruiseman, another great review! Thank you. Looking to purchase a touring bike for my wife and me. Anyone compared the passenger comfort between these 2?
great review
I rode a Victory Vision for a bit,,, I am now on a GL 1800 ,,, but I'll say this about the Vision ,,, AWESOME BIKE ,,, the indian motorcyle takeover was politically shmoozed ! The indian is a high dollar force for Polaris ,,, . As it is ,,, I am excited about my Goldwing default ! Thank You indian ,,,
As usual you did a great job comparing and explaining your reasoning behind your decision. Very throughout. No bikes are perfect. You could not talk about long term reliability but I have a friend that own a Challenger for 2 years an has electronic issue when he rides in the rain. Also some problem with the screen display flickering and disappearing. Of course the dealership is over 200km 120miles away. He loves the bike better then his 2 previous HD but very frustrated about electronic issues that the dealer can not fix as of yet. Warranty is almost over too.
Ride Safe Always!
Really enjoyed the video, I thought you were very thorough and fair.
As a goldwing owner over the years I would probably still go with the wing.
But the Pursuit looks like a great bike for sure.
Seemed very fair to me!👍🏻
Have a 2021 Goldwing, I was admiring the luggage rack on trunk! Point for the Pursuit.
Thanks for that video. I thought you did an awesome job with your format. Well put together. It would be nice if you continue to add more videos like this to your collection. Stay safe out there, Larry.
Nice comparison Cruiseman. I have the 2018 wing white as well. Is there a way to mount the newer larger trunk on the 2018 model? Newer trunk fits 2 large full face helmets with ease.
Great review IMHO. Im not going to trade my cruiser for either of these but if I ever get a backup scoot I would consider both for sure.
I really appreciate your reviews. I currently own a 2020 darkhorse chief. My next purchase will be the pursuit or k1500b
Yes, very fair evaluation
Both bikes are wonderful!!.. I'm a die hard Goldwing fan. I enjoy your reviews. 🏍️☺️🇱🇷
Great Review. I have had a Pursuit DH Premium for little over a month and 7000 km (4300 miles) on the road in that time. I agree 100% on the paint, though I have the Black Smoke Dark Horse. The paint is matt black that doesn't have a scuff problem. but a few parts that are shiny black like the trunk handle area, which had something rub against it and rub off the paint! The cargo rack is also a shiny black and after the first long trip with a tightly tied down small duffle bag, it was covered with scuffs and shallow scratches. that's coming off this winter to properly powder coat. Re: Lighting, I had the extra lower drive lights added - it's like night and day improvement. As for high centre of gravity, I found I had a completely different experience. My other bike I've put on 100000 km is a 2005 BMW K1200LT which weighs about the same. but the COG on that BMW is so high it's criminal. It's been a real pleasure with the Indian's low COG in my opinion. The only thing I really miss is the Reverse the BMW had and the Pursuit doesn't.
I also had a 2005 BMW K1200LT and totally agree the COG was far too high, that is why I am so happy with my Goldwing, also why I am a little concerned about the Indian, I am going to have to go test it to see how it is. The high COG on the BMW was only really a concern at low speeds I must say. It was great on long distances (I rode across Australia on mine, from west to east and back, and clocked up many miles on other trips, I just didn't like it at low speed).
very fair very well imformed
i love these series. Please do one with the bmw r18 transcontinental 😊
Cruiseman,
I’m wanting to upgrade very soon from my Vstar. I watched all your videos on the 2018+ Goldwing, the BMW 1600, and the Indian Pursuit. Maybe you could give a little comparison on an older bike vs newer bike. I’m very curious how you would compare the GL1800 (blue one you owned) to the newer bikes. You would have to “ignore” the Tech, but for overall bike handling and rider experience, I’d like to know your opinion. Many of us are not ready to invest $30K + on a new bike and lightly used is a great option.
You have owned and ridden so many, your opinion has weight.
Thanks for all your video efforts!
M
If I had the money. I would buy both Bikes! Thank you for the great review!
Very fair comparison
I sold my challenger even though it was really fun to ride. The fuel gauge never worked and dealers are few and far between. The gps many times tried to put me on dirt roads on the blue ridge parkway.
Very helpful.
i own a 19 goldwing and the only thing better than the indian is the reverse and the motor and handling, the indian infotainment destroys everything out there, suspension hands down the best keeps the wind off you the best and more comfortable
Have the 2017 GW with the large f4 windshield. My wife still complains about wind blowing her headband off her head. I was looking at the Indian but we never got the chance to ride one to test drive. Great review, and I will be looking forward to your next one.
Great unbiased and fair review, here in the UK the Indian Pursuit Limited cost £27.695 with a 5 year warranty, the Honda Gold Wing Tour manual 6 speed cost £29.349, DCT cost £32.449 3 year warranty, so over here the Indian is cheaper by £1.654/ £4804. I'm a bit biased as I already own an Indian Chieftain, I'd go for the Pursuit, but the Wing is a brilliant bike!
Very good job.
I Love The Pursuit is amazing
Love from Mississippi USA 🇺🇲
I had a GW and had to give it up as I have trouble straddling the wider engine as I have gotten older and have a 29inch inseam. With that being said, I have ridden an Indian and that lower seat height really helps. So, if you are not 5'10' or so, check out the Indian in my opinion would be a better choice.
Thank you for your video I'm looking for a good touring motorcycle to purchase in a year or so. I haven't test driven any of these bikes I'm interested in yet. However I like to know what is out there for comparison to a Road Glide.
While a good comparison of features and functions, the biggest missing factor is riding style. What will you use the bike for. Both will eat highway miles but if you want to ride the twisties aggressively, the Wing is a much more capable Sport Tourer. Even more so with a suspension upgrade.
Don’t own an Indian pursuit but I do own a Victory XCT which a person could claim is the previous gen pursuit. The higher passenger seating does allow passenger to also be to see what’s ahead. While mine doesn’t have a factory adjustable windshield, I did add a manual windshield, my wife has told me wind is not an issue.
I'm a Gal not a Guy. Many women also Goldwings and other touring bikes. I liked the video, lots of information.
Thanks for the great review.....I am on my 4th Goldwing but am really upset about how the storage has decreased in the Goldwing (I currently have a 2000 GL1500SE) and I can fit a my backpack in the saddle bag. I couldn't do that on the newer Goldwings so I have seen advertisements for the Indian, but as you pointed out in your review, I would have no idea where to go in my large city to even look at one. In fact until the commercials on my phone, I didn't even know Indian was still in existence. I certainly will find a dealer and check it out based on your review. Thanks again.
I had my rider and passenger seats redone by Wingsoft. The rider seat is improved somewhat, but the pillion seat is much, much, better.
Great video.
Very fair review - I own neither, but I love the look of the Indian, and to me the Goldwing 1500 in wineberry red will always be the one I would like to buy.
Which bike feels lighter and felt more maneuverable? Which bike would be easier to handle for a smaller guy, 5'9 about a 160 lbs? Thanks
I have to say. I Love my 21 Indian Challenger Limited. I think your comparison was probably fair, especially in the fact that you stress that a lot of the scoring was personal preference. Great detailed video so kudos to you.
I have a 2018 goldwing and believe you are spot on with your appraisal of it’s electronics. Honda should have done so much more with the GPS, bluetooth connectivity, ridiculous radio, and provided a display that is customizable. The only other thing I dislike about the wing that Honda should have done better is that damned seat. You mention the Honda dealer network is a plus, but in my negative experience with the dealers I’ve encountered, they have been as bad as any shady used car dealer I’ve seen. I believe one thing that stands out with the Honda is that it handles well enough outside of the touring realm to be a daily driver. I sold my VTX1300 when I found I only put 200 miles on it last year; the goldwing handles so well around town, I just preferred it most of the time.
Gold wing all day every day…. Honda is always the best
You can do a ceramic coating and the clear coat will be easier to maintain.
I like the way you did this video. All the information was very informative. But one thing you did that I really liked. It may seem trivial, but you stopping the video for the commercial break was great. I hate when I'm watching a video and all of a sudden I'm watching an advertisement with virtually no break in between.
Having said that. I've always liked the Goldwings even though I've never owned one. But, I felt bad when they changed the styling to make it more modernistic and less of a Touring bike. The older model Goldwings had more storage in their saddlebags and trunk. I was sort of surprised with the new model being pretty skimpy on that. Well, that's just my opinion.
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What about the cooled seat on the Indian?