I have a 2019 DCT Tour and have put just over 56,000 miles on it in 26 months and I love this bike. I agree with most all of your ratings. My comment on suspension would be to use the Sport mode more because it slightly increases the damping and that alone helps the handling greatly. Yes the throttle response is sharpened but you get used to it. Great review and it confirms the Goldwing was right for me. I came from a 2003 Goldwing that I put over 250,000 miles on.
Yes, I will keep my 2003 Gold Wing rather than "upgrade" to a sport touring bike. And although I can pretty much afford anything I want at this stage in life, I will NOT pay the exhorbitant price for a new Wing when there are thousands of used ones available for less than $10K.
I too can realistically, generally, afford most things I would want at 67. So I did? I bought a 2022 Ultra Blue DCT Tour airbag, then had fitted to it, numerous well placed Gold Strike and Pathfinder LED lights to be better seen by distracted motorists. The bling factor is also a nice by-product. This bike not only looks great in stock form, but even better now all lit up. Most important. It rides and handles like a bat out of hell. Smooth, quick and sporty just like a like it. Nothing shifts faster more effectively than a DCT. Worth every penny. Love it. Ride safe and often. ATGATT.
This is probably the best review video I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your honesty and all the hard work that went into making this video review. You just gained a follower
Hey Crusiseman!! I always enjoy your videos and have referenced them many times in my research for a touring bike. This past year I decided that the Goldwing is the bike for me and in August I put a deposit on a Black 2022 Tour DCT that was supposed to have arrived at my dealership this month. Unfortunately I got a call from the dealership and they told me that the order had been cancelled. They offered to apply my deposit to a 2023 Tour DCT which is scheduled to arrive in February of 2023. I was advised by the salesman that a tire pressure monitoring system has been added to the 2023 model, but that is the only upgrade that has been added.
Thanks for sharing. Will be getting my first Goldwing(Tour DCT) in March next year, looking forward to catching some more of your content. Cheers from over the pond.
I have never owned a Gold Wing and my only experience is a long test ride on a 2018 when they first came out. I agree with most of your review and found it well-balanced and fair. The only difference between you and me is that you are much more accepting of the shortcomings in range, comfort, tech and storage. I guess I have been spoiled by my K1200LT. I have owned it for 15 years since new and it just does the things that matter to me better than the current alternatives. I was surprised when both BMW and Honda took a step backwards in comfort and touring functionality with their new luxury touring bikes. My wife and I have rented K1600GTLs multiple times in Europe and the UK and just don’t find them comparable to the LT in what matters to us. I don’t much care about 160 HP in a two-up touring bike. I care about comfort for both rider and passenger, luggage capacity for our 3+ week trips and fuel range. I don’t need 10 suspension modes, fancy sound systems, or automatic transmissions, or 160 HP. Both BMW and Honda moved from luxury touring bikes for couples to sport touring bikes geared to the solo rider. Not sure why, but that is how I see it. I’d love to get a new bike, but my wife and I still prefer the old LT, even after nearly 100,000 miles, to anything on the market today so we will soldier on with it until it gets unreliable or too costly to maintain … and keep hoping for a worthy successor.
I put Centramatics on my 2019 DCT and that minimal vibration of which you spoke was further reduced quite notably - well worth the couple of hundred bucks they cost - and with 92K miles on my bike I speak with some experience...
I really enjoyed your thorogh review of the 2023 (2022) goldwing. And for all your comments, I completely agree with them. I think an additional comment as to its weight would have been in order, especially for new or inexperienced driver. You see, Chris, after having owned a 2003, a 2015 and now 2020 goldwing, I think the older version was easier to handle at slow speed as the weight of the bike seemed to be better distributed towards the back and not on the handles as the 2020 version (2018+) is. I find my other bike (which is a 2014 HD road king) easier to handle at slow speed than my goldwing. And for all of your readers to know...never, never make a panic stop using the front brake while turning on the goldwing as the goldwing will definitely drop to its side and throw you on the ground without you being able to stop it. Fortunately the small crash bars do their job in protecting the bike but as for the guy that’s sitting on top...well you better be well dressed with a good prorective gear. I always enjoy your reviews. Keep up the good work.
You can get an extended lid for the top box of yours from Corbin that will give you virtually the same amount of space. No need to trade the whole bike!
Hi Cruiseman, just traded my 03 Wing for a 2021 Wing and previously to my 03, owned a 1998 Aspencade. Anyway, while I love your channel, the reasons I purchased my 2021 are for the DCT and how nimble it is as I get older. The feather weight while twirling the steering at a dead stop, walking mode, and the ability to back up with steering turned, without fear of dropping the bike, is unmatched as far as I know. Everything else to me is just gravy, such as the ability to open side compartments while pumping gas, without getting off the bike. For bluetooth, my android phone connects flawlessly, while I no longer really need a helmet bluetooth. I like the cubby and honestly never locked them on my previous Wings that had been fitted with knob keys. The only downfall for me, is the way the gas cap compartment opens and lack of space to set the cap off-sides. Take care!
great review CruiserMan ! your audio is fluid and gets a lot of 'honest real-world info' out quick 🧨👍 - Question please - What autocue/app are you using?
Bought a 2018 when they first came out. It took four or 5 test rides to make up my mind after purchasing the previous generation and trading it because I couldn't get comfortable. Last test drive at Schroader's Honda Powersports in Hendersonville, NC convinced me. For an extra fee the bike was fitted with a Corbin seat and backrest. That's all it took. I'm negotiating for a 2022 GW Tour DTC now. The GW Tour DTC addressed my concerns of my previous touring motorcycles. I wouldn't want a touring bike without walking speed forward and reverse, DTC transmission, and that smooooooooth engine! With the added highway pegs, Corbin seat and backrest it's really comfortable. Using a dry bag for a backrest is really better than any backrest for long days in the saddle. IMHO
Thanks for your honest review. I'm considering "upgrading" my 99 Valk to a 2016 goldwing f6b. But by this point I've put so much work into this Valk that I'm reluctant to sell it. It finally runs smooth as silk, fast as lightning. Other than newer components, maybe easier to find and a sleeker look the f6b doesn't offer any functional upgrades that matter to me. I've got google maps on my phone, I'm used to abs braking the manual way. My throttle is a little sticky so I've got a kind of cruise control (non-adaptive). When i stop for gas the pipes warm up my gloves giving me heated handgrips for 10 minutes or so. My windshield is adjustable (but only 1 direction) with a dremel tool and sandpaper. My saddlebags top-open so stuff doesn't fall out. So anyway, you can see why I'm torn.
Love your review. I still need to test ride the new generation Wings, and try that DCT transmission. I'm not in the market just now so it'll have to wait.
In every performance parameter, the Gold Wing is stellar. However, with the factory exhaust system, what you hear most is the mechanical noise of the engine and transmission, which has all the charisma of a food processor.
Was so hoping the 2023 would have adaptive cruise, and blind spot ID in mirrors. Although very disappointed, I’ll wait to buy until these features are available.
Nice Review, However, I have over 8000 miles on my 2022 GW Tour Model (manual clutch) and I must say my ass has never had an issue with the stock seat comfort. I noticed you said yours was boney. Mine not so much...haha. I think that is very subjective and I wanted to point out that the stock seat is very comfortable for many riders. Not sure about the paint problem you mentioned but mine is good all the way around. I agree with about everything else you mentioned and the part where I Love to ride my Goldwing!!! Cheers!!!!
I now know what will be my next ride, I will follow you, your vids are wonderful and very informative, I will support you as much as I can, great channel, thank you from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, merci encore!
I prefer range close to 300 miles. Both my K1200LT and KLR650 have close to that. I was glad to have that range on the Alaska highway. I like to be able to ride a couple hours (120-140 miles) and take a coffee break and then ride another couple hours and stop for gas. A 240-280 mile range fits that well, but 200-220 not so much. I am still amazed Honda shorted their premier touring bike on both range and luggage. I was glad to see them correct the top case and am waiting for them to fix the side cases and gas tank.
When talking about how fast it is, I had to kind of giggle a little, I always ride my 21 GW in sport mode, even in the rain. Having said that, I didn't buy it for speed, and it's actually the slowest vehicle i own. I bought it to cruise and enjoy the ride, love the speakers! If I want brute speed and cornering performance, I can jump on my RC51. I do wish that it wasn't limited to 115 mph electronically. Great review Chris!! I will say that in early January of 22 when I decided to start looking for a new Goldwing, your videos were the best source of information that really helped me pull the trigger! Got a brand new 21 and put almost 11k miles on it this year!
Great unbiased review ! I bought a USED 2018 with less than 8,000 mi. and Thousands in Accessories . Most were led lighting , which lead to an immmediate issue, since some of the wiring was done incorrectly . Since I bought it [Feb. 2021] I have put on over 20,000 mi. trouble free mi. and would agree on many of your criticisms . But overall that smooth as silk engine and DCT are in my driveway to stay.
hello, love the videos you make !! it helped me decide to get the 2022 goldwing bagger. it done only 1200kms (around 600 miles). you mentioned that you loved how smooth the engine and dct transmission is on these motorcycles. mine seems very rough both the engine and dct. is this due to the running in period? or is this something to do with it being a boxer engine?
Great vid! Been thinking I might buy new, maybe a GW or an Indian. Or, a venture tour machine like the Africa Twin - was thinking I might change my riding experience. 😊
Hey Chris, I know safety is a big issue with you as it is with me, I do wish you would mention more often that one of the only not back-lit switches is the horn also difficult to find in a emergency situation. A larger horn button or reposition to the top of the switch panal would add a amazing amount of safety to the bike
Funny you should mention this… Just today on my way home from work, I had to do some emergency braking in the freeway because some distracted driver decided he wanted to be in my lane. And without looking took my lane. Now I purchased an 18 Tour DCT back in August 2018 and put around 28,000 miles on it before I got into an accident and totaled it in November 2021. Then in February 2022, I purchased a 22 Tour DCT, and have only around 4,000 miles on it. So in about 32,000 and a little over 4 years of riding this 6th Generation Goldwing, I’ve only operated the horn a handful of times. In the beginning, it took a while to get the mussel memory of the horn location. I’ve hit the push to talk button on numerous occasions trying to operate the horn in close call situations. But over time I have trained myself and now have mussel memory of the horn location, I activated the horn during my evasive maneuver without even thinking about it. My thumb just goes there. I created a habit of covering the horn button when my spider senses start going off, just incase. But just like any skill, it takes time and practice to make actions second nature and automatic through mussel memory. Keep safe, keep practicing, keep the shiny side up, and keep riding.
Interesting. It sounds like Honda's automotive side limits the Goldwing. Many modern motorcycles (including from Japan) have made major strides in suspension electronics where Honda (and HD) stick with ABS only. The 6 axis IMUs and the systems that are possible with them are truly amazing in making bikes safer, like cornering ABS, traction control, and automatic suspension adjustments. I have been a subscriber for years and like your content. I would say this is most critical, if not scathing review that I have seen.
How is the low-speed maneuverability with a DCT? I am used to a clutch friction zone and use of rear brake on my current FLHXS looking at maybe switching to the '24 GW. Thanks in advance for the input.
New to the channel and very much appreciate your in depth content. QQ. You mention the current seat being less than comfortable. Curious which after market seat you like/recommend? Thx. J
Hi Curiseman, I am installing a dual dash camera system on my 2023 goldwing. Can you place the front camera inline with the front fender underneath the fairing? Or could the suspension compress enough to hit the camera off the fender?
Good info but way too many ads. The UA-cam platform is getting abusive in the ads. Thank you for the well thought out video. I am in the market for a Goldwing. Looks like I can buy a 22 and save a few bucks and get the same bike as the 23.
Loved my 1981 goldwing to me the new gold wings with the non traditional gas tanks don't look like a motorcycle just my opinion, this is why I got the 2020 yamaha starventure its an awesome touring bike!
Brilliant review as always... I'm looking to get a tourer in the next 18 months.. love to see the BMW 1250RT V K1600 V PURSUIT v the Goldwing in a face off.
really enjoyed this. I bought a 2006 a year ago. Have put 28,ooo miles on it so far. at some point in the future I will upgrade to a 2021 or higher. Thanks for the honesty. I shall wait for some upgrades in tech.
I haven’t ridden a Goldwing since 2019. I rode with a friend down to Daytona Bike week. He rides a Goldwing. I ride a Harley. I rode everything they offered at the track, but Honda didn’t do test rides from the track. They wanted you to ride down to the closest dealership to do the test rides. They did let us ride further and get a better feel once we signed up and all. My friend believed I would trade my Harley for the Goldwing after the ride. I liked the bike, but not enough to trade my Harley. If I could afford 2 big touring bikes, I might want a Goldwing too, but I am not replacing my Harley.
Owning my 2020 DCT Tour with 14k on it now, no way I will even think on getting the 23. You loose so much selling it and getting what ? New bike ? It will be worth it when they start adding safety and comfort options. Some do it and I don’t understand for what. The Sport mode is my favorite drug. Boy, this bike never fails with the feeling of that rush. Just a sweet machine that got me so spoiled.
How does it drive if you're not whipping the engine near redline? What's the torque at say 3000 rpm? I understand these are square engines, so it should still have plenty of go around idle (which is where it will be at any light or stop sign). Do you feel inclined to downshift to pass, or is it enough to just open the throttle a bit?
Great straight forward honest review. Thanks. Are you aware of any work around to use a dongle or similar to replace the need to constantly have your iPhone connected to use Apple CarPlay?
There are USB Bluetooth adapters you can purchase that you can plug into your left saddle bag or trunk. This will adapter will fool the bikes system into thinking that a headset is connected.
The Honda Goldwing has been my dream bike since I was 15 years old. I am now 55 years old and still do not have my Honda Goldwing dream bike. Just saying, anyone has one they’d like to donate, by all means! Lol.
I was about to buy the new 2023 goldwing in black until I saw a 2022 can-am spider limited Rt. In black! For the same price as the goldwing. More luggage space, the wife loved the wider seat, and the same house power and torque as goldwing. I had to pull the trigger.
Good review, but I think I would have elaborated on the hill start assist does exactly as advertised, which gives you a 3 second assist, not a hold until ready feature.
I had the option to buy a new 2020 when they came out but opted to buy a 2017 with 5000 miles on it insted. the newer ones after the 2017 just dont have the storage I need to take a long trip. You are spot on about Honda dropping the ball on alot of stuff. I think they just don't care anymore. Next one just might be a BMW. Great review as always. Thanks
Lol, I can tell what you think of the auto start stop for Canadian sold units. I’m hoping that it is set to off in the menu settings and stays off… not have to be set each time you go for a ride (like my car has to be). My dealer has a new 2023 in the crate but I’ve opted to be put on the list (first one) for one of the 2024. The GW will be my retirement bike and second bike in the stable to my 2020 FJR1300ES. I had a 1984, 1988, and 1995 GW before getting into sport touring in 2005 with my ST1300. The Wing ceased to interest me until it slimmed down in 2018. Looking forward to the 2024 for next year and will continue watching your videos. Cheers!
Amazing video. I'm a red level Honda tech and been riding for almost 20 years now and I'm at the point where I don't think I want to keep buying Supersport or sport bikes like 600rrs and 1000rrs or a CB1000r and just want something comfortable I can do just about everything with and I think it's about time I just get a Goldwing.
Thank you for your awesome videos...very helpful. I have a 2023 Gold Wing Tour. Can you adjust the handlebars? I would like to adjust them back about an inch or two. Thanks in advance for your help.
It's good and a step up from the last of the gen 5 Goldwings but the lack of a 6 speed manual transmission in Australia killed it for me. As I've said before when my 2012 Goldwing wears out I may have to look at another make, but then the others don't have reverse and with a heavy bike you really need that. Maybe a used 2021 will work....
Cruiseman, great video. One thought, you might mention how a rider could improve your scoring for comfort (ie; seat, windshield, etc) using after market parts and note the average cost associated with doing this. Some of these things are easily corrected, but we all know that there is a cost associated for the improved scoring.
I have a 2012 gold wing and sure enjoy riding when I can. Living in a northern state, fall riding can be cold. I know Honda has heated grips and seats but when will engineers design a way to use engine heat to warm the rider. Sure would be nice to open a vent and have warm air blow towards you to help with cold weather riding. Come on Honda, you pride yourself with innovating thinking, lets make this happen soon.
Cruiseman, I have a 2008 model with the airbag. I want to change the air filter myself. Does your maintenance videos show how to do an air filter install on the airbag model?
Yes. My videos go into great detail on changing the air filter. But, not specifically on the Airbag. The only difference is that you will remove the airbag unit instead of the center pocket. Of course, always disconnect the negative battery cable first.
Thank you for this great review. Do you have any knowledge when will Honda update the infotainment? I am looking forward for these features: 1. Cruise control radar - the BMW 1250 GT has that neat feature that will slow you down if you are leaning too much and that needs distronic 2. Wireless android auto 3. All digital and configurable dashboard 4. A proper phone compartment, ventilated (like the BMWs) I test rode a 2022 Goldwing and I LOVED IT. If they put these on the 2024, I am sold!
Hello Sir, I have been interested in the GW for years now, and have noticed that Honda keeps adding more and more tech to the wing. I was wondering if they ( Honda) would ever consider producing a version of the wing that goes back to the basics of riding without all the new fangled gadgets that I feel aren't needed. That would bring the price down to a more comfortable level. $30,000 is a lot of money for a lot of people. Right now in order to afford a wing I am having to look at 1990 up to 2005 once you go above that the price get too much for me personally and the hope of a new wing is out of the question. Maybe I'm just too much of a penny pincher. I don't know may so. Would love to hear back from you about this. Thank you for the videos that you do . Sincerely , G.W. Stevens
Coming of a 2012 Harley Ultra, as soon as you straddle the GW and lift it off the sidestand, it will feel like a sport bike in comparison. That’s a good thing as the GWDCT weighs in 100 lbs. less than my Harley.
I have heard so much controversy about the suspension on 2018+ Goldwing. Have you ever ridden a wing with a suspension upgrade from Max at Taxxion Dynamics? If so, what are your thoughts on the differences and whether it is worth the investment. Thanks!
Put a deposit on a 2023 bike this past Tuesday and was told probably early spring…no problem….Thursday I get an email that a random 2023 DCT Tour showed up from Honda….I pick it up early next week. 😊 first GW… coming off a Triumph Tiger 900.
Chris, I stumbled on your channel by accident when I was researching the Goldwing on UA-cam. Love your channel and content. I’m a early-30s Millennial. I love the GW. I don’t get why it’s called an “old man’s bike”. I think older men ride the GW because they have ridden everything else and know that the GW is the best. My current touring bike is the 2021 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited. I have been considering trading it in for the Goldwing. I read online that the 2024 GW, being the 50th anniversary edition, will have a slew of new features including adaptive cruise control, blind spot detection, a new dash, and more. I wonder what you think of these rumours. Is it worth waiting for next year’s model?
Cruiseman, have you any idea if the PGM-FI for the 2023 GL1800 MT can be used as a replacement on a 2018 MT? I ask because the 2023 doesn't have the 112mph limiter, and Guhl can't do it any longer. Just like to have it if needed. Hate the feds. Thanks
Well Chris ya did it again... now I want the 2023 lol. But my 2021 bagger will stay here. With me. Never another black bike, n not In love with the red.... great review thanks.
I've been a big follower of your channel for some time. I previously owned a 2008 Gold Wing Trike, I have since sold it. The trike was just not for me. I am looking at a 2023 DCT Tour and wanted your opinion on slow speed U-turns and tight maneuvers. I've always used the clutch to keep the engine pre loaded and feather the clutch as I lean the bike in these tight turns. With no clutch are these maneuvers more difficult or is it a non issue? Again I love your videos and live in Hudson Oaks just off I-20 and know you like the McDonalds in Willow Park to stop on your way to see your brother in Midland. Maybe we can meet up sometime and ride. Take care and be safe.
Bonjour , j'ai une Goldwing 1800DCT 2023 , Honda ne distribue plus son porte bagage , avez-vous des informations sur cet accessoire ? Merci pour votre travail .
Hello I like your videos on Honda Goldwing. I am wondering will Honda have a Metallic Paint color Black for 2024 . I see they only have Matte Black for 2023 a color I just do not like. I do own a 2014 Goldwing Trike now but want to upgrade to DCT Touring with Hannigan Generation 3 kit. Do you know if 2024 will have Metallic Black for this year coming and if so what month will it be available Thanks Brendan
Great review. I just bought my first Goldwing and it's a hell of a bike. I notice that Cruiseman uses a HJC helmet. I was steered away at cycle gear today and ended up dropping almost $1K on an Arai. I retired my 12 year old Arai. I am big on less helmet noise. Did I get bent over?
I have a 2019 DCT Tour and have put just over 56,000 miles on it in 26 months and I love this bike. I agree with most all of your ratings. My comment on suspension would be to use the Sport mode more because it slightly increases the damping and that alone helps the handling greatly. Yes the throttle response is sharpened but you get used to it. Great review and it confirms the Goldwing was right for me. I came from a 2003 Goldwing that I put over 250,000 miles on.
Yes, I will keep my 2003 Gold Wing rather than "upgrade" to a sport touring bike. And although I can pretty much afford anything I want at this stage in life, I will NOT pay the exhorbitant price for a new Wing when there are thousands of used ones available for less than $10K.
I too can realistically, generally, afford most things I would want at 67. So I did? I bought a 2022 Ultra Blue DCT Tour airbag, then had fitted to it, numerous well placed Gold Strike and Pathfinder LED lights to be better seen by distracted motorists. The bling factor is also a nice by-product. This bike not only looks great in stock form, but even better now all lit up. Most important. It rides and handles like a bat out of hell. Smooth, quick and sporty just like a like it. Nothing shifts faster more effectively than a DCT. Worth every penny. Love it. Ride safe and often. ATGATT.
But you hurt your gas mileage
Traxxion Dynamics my friend.
No issues with stock suspension on my 2021 tour DCT, in all modes.
This is probably the best review video I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your honesty and all the hard work that went into making this video review. You just gained a follower
That blue is absolutely stunning.
The amount of time and effort that has gone in to this video is mind blowing! New UK subscriber. Awesome work!!
Hey Crusiseman!! I always enjoy your videos and have referenced them many times in my research for a touring bike. This past year I decided that the Goldwing is the bike for me and in August I put a deposit on a Black 2022 Tour DCT that was supposed to have arrived at my dealership this month. Unfortunately I got a call from the dealership and they told me that the order had been cancelled. They offered to apply my deposit to a 2023 Tour DCT which is scheduled to arrive in February of 2023. I was advised by the salesman that a tire pressure monitoring system has been added to the 2023 model, but that is the only upgrade that has been added.
Your posts are very well produced and informative. I have a 2010 Goldwing, you have clearly answered many questions I'd had in the past. Thanks.
Thanks for sharing. Will be getting my first Goldwing(Tour DCT) in March next year, looking forward to catching some more of your content. Cheers from over the pond.
My sincere thanks and appreciation to you for your efforts and frankness in evaluating bikes in all honesty
I have never owned a Gold Wing and my only experience is a long test ride on a 2018 when they first came out. I agree with most of your review and found it well-balanced and fair. The only difference between you and me is that you are much more accepting of the shortcomings in range, comfort, tech and storage. I guess I have been spoiled by my K1200LT. I have owned it for 15 years since new and it just does the things that matter to me better than the current alternatives. I was surprised when both BMW and Honda took a step backwards in comfort and touring functionality with their new luxury touring bikes. My wife and I have rented K1600GTLs multiple times in Europe and the UK and just don’t find them comparable to the LT in what matters to us. I don’t much care about 160 HP in a two-up touring bike. I care about comfort for both rider and passenger, luggage capacity for our 3+ week trips and fuel range. I don’t need 10 suspension modes, fancy sound systems, or automatic transmissions, or 160 HP. Both BMW and Honda moved from luxury touring bikes for couples to sport touring bikes geared to the solo rider. Not sure why, but that is how I see it. I’d love to get a new bike, but my wife and I still prefer the old LT, even after nearly 100,000 miles, to anything on the market today so we will soldier on with it until it gets unreliable or too costly to maintain … and keep hoping for a worthy successor.
Tall people and their attitudes...
I put Centramatics on my 2019 DCT and that minimal vibration of which you spoke was further reduced quite notably - well worth the couple of hundred bucks they cost - and with 92K miles on my bike I speak with some experience...
I really enjoyed your thorogh review of the 2023 (2022) goldwing. And for all your comments, I completely agree with them. I think an additional comment as to its weight would have been in order, especially for new or inexperienced driver. You see, Chris, after having owned a 2003, a 2015 and now 2020 goldwing, I think the older version was easier to handle at slow speed as the weight of the bike seemed to be better distributed towards the back and not on the handles as the 2020 version (2018+) is. I find my other bike (which is a 2014 HD road king) easier to handle at slow speed than my goldwing. And for all of your readers to know...never, never make a panic stop using the front brake while turning on the goldwing as the goldwing will definitely drop to its side and throw you on the ground without you being able to stop it. Fortunately the small crash bars do their job in protecting the bike but as for the guy that’s sitting on top...well you better be well dressed with a good prorective gear. I always enjoy your reviews. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video and very fair rating. Thanks Cruiseman! God Bless you.
Excellent job on the video! Very good review of 2022/23 Honda Goldwing DCT Tour.
A very fair and comprehensive review. Thank you. I don’t think that we will be swapping our 2020 Goldwing just to get a bigger top box.
You can get an extended lid for the top box of yours from Corbin that will give you virtually the same amount of space. No need to trade the whole bike!
I own a 2021 Tour DCT and your review was spot on.
I like and respect your straight up commentary.
Hi Cruiseman, just traded my 03 Wing for a 2021 Wing and previously to my 03, owned a 1998 Aspencade. Anyway, while I love your channel, the reasons I purchased my 2021 are for the DCT and how nimble it is as I get older. The feather weight while twirling the steering at a dead stop, walking mode, and the ability to back up with steering turned, without fear of dropping the bike, is unmatched as far as I know. Everything else to me is just gravy, such as the ability to open side compartments while pumping gas, without getting off the bike. For bluetooth, my android phone connects flawlessly, while I no longer really need a helmet bluetooth. I like the cubby and honestly never locked them on my previous Wings that had been fitted with knob keys. The only downfall for me, is the way the gas cap compartment opens and lack of space to set the cap off-sides. Take care!
I like the extra stereo speakers on the tour model and the trunk space is a bonus 😊
great review CruiserMan ! your audio is fluid and gets a lot of 'honest real-world info' out quick 🧨👍 - Question please - What autocue/app are you using?
Bought a 2018 when they first came out. It took four or 5 test rides to make up my mind after purchasing the previous generation and trading it because I couldn't get comfortable. Last test drive at Schroader's Honda Powersports in Hendersonville, NC convinced me. For an extra fee the bike was fitted with a Corbin seat and backrest. That's all it took. I'm negotiating for a 2022 GW Tour DTC now. The GW Tour DTC addressed my concerns of my previous touring motorcycles. I wouldn't want a touring bike without walking speed forward and reverse, DTC transmission, and that smooooooooth engine! With the added highway pegs, Corbin seat and backrest it's really comfortable. Using a dry bag for a backrest is really better than any backrest for long days in the saddle. IMHO
Thanks for your honest review. I'm considering "upgrading" my 99 Valk to a 2016 goldwing f6b. But by this point I've put so much work into this Valk that I'm reluctant to sell it. It finally runs smooth as silk, fast as lightning. Other than newer components, maybe easier to find and a sleeker look the f6b doesn't offer any functional upgrades that matter to me. I've got google maps on my phone, I'm used to abs braking the manual way. My throttle is a little sticky so I've got a kind of cruise control (non-adaptive). When i stop for gas the pipes warm up my gloves giving me heated handgrips for 10 minutes or so. My windshield is adjustable (but only 1 direction) with a dremel tool and sandpaper. My saddlebags top-open so stuff doesn't fall out. So anyway, you can see why I'm torn.
I am new to riding, and I find your reviews very helpful to someone like me. Thank you!
Love your review. I still need to test ride the new generation Wings, and try that DCT transmission. I'm not in the market just now so it'll have to wait.
Give one a test ride, you just might be in the market sooner than you thought.😊
In every performance parameter, the Gold Wing is stellar. However, with the factory exhaust system, what you hear most is the mechanical noise of the engine and transmission, which has all the charisma of a food processor.
Was so hoping the 2023 would have adaptive cruise, and blind spot ID in mirrors. Although very disappointed, I’ll wait to buy until these features are available.
I really like your reviews. You give a lot of details and make the goldwing very desirable.. My dream bike 🚲..
Nice Review, However, I have over 8000 miles on my 2022 GW Tour Model (manual clutch) and I must say my ass has never had an issue with the stock seat comfort. I noticed you said yours was boney. Mine not so much...haha. I think that is very subjective and I wanted to point out that the stock seat is very comfortable for many riders. Not sure about the paint problem you mentioned but mine is good all the way around. I agree with about everything else you mentioned and the part where I Love to ride my Goldwing!!! Cheers!!!!
Your manual 6 is a rarity everyone is DCT lazy now and find it hard to pull in the clutch.. Is the gearbox quiet shifting like the previous gen 5??
I now know what will be my next ride, I will follow you, your vids are wonderful and very informative, I will support you as much as I can, great channel, thank you from Montreal, Quebec, Canada, merci encore!
I prefer range close to 300 miles. Both my K1200LT and KLR650 have close to that. I was glad to have that range on the Alaska highway. I like to be able to ride a couple hours (120-140 miles) and take a coffee break and then ride another couple hours and stop for gas. A 240-280 mile range fits that well, but 200-220 not so much. I am still amazed Honda shorted their premier touring bike on both range and luggage. I was glad to see them correct the top case and am waiting for them to fix the side cases and gas tank.
When talking about how fast it is, I had to kind of giggle a little, I always ride my 21 GW in sport mode, even in the rain. Having said that, I didn't buy it for speed, and it's actually the slowest vehicle i own. I bought it to cruise and enjoy the ride, love the speakers! If I want brute speed and cornering performance, I can jump on my RC51. I do wish that it wasn't limited to 115 mph electronically.
Great review Chris!! I will say that in early January of 22 when I decided to start looking for a new Goldwing, your videos were the best source of information that really helped me pull the trigger! Got a brand new 21 and put almost 11k miles on it this year!
An excellent and in-depth review. Got a hell of a lot from it.
Great unbiased review ! I bought a USED 2018 with less than 8,000 mi. and Thousands in Accessories . Most were led lighting , which lead to an immmediate issue, since some of the wiring was done incorrectly . Since I bought it [Feb. 2021] I have put on over 20,000 mi. trouble free mi. and would agree on many of your criticisms . But overall that smooth as silk engine and DCT are in my driveway to stay.
hello, love the videos you make !! it helped me decide to get the 2022 goldwing bagger. it done only 1200kms (around 600 miles). you mentioned that you loved how smooth the engine and dct transmission is on these motorcycles. mine seems very rough both the engine and dct. is this due to the running in period? or is this something to do with it being a boxer engine?
Great and clear review thank you!!!
Excellent honest review ! Thank You !
Great vid! Been thinking I might buy new, maybe a GW or an Indian. Or, a venture tour machine like the Africa Twin - was thinking I might change my riding experience. 😊
Great review 👏🏻
Great review! For what it’s worth, I find the stock seat is perfect for me…for over 35,000 miles on my 2019.
Didn't like the seat on my 2018 DCT after 200 miles. Did 900 mile ride and butt was hurting. My 2012 1800 was good for 1000 mile days.
@@gj8539I wonder if the seat was changed in '21
Thank you for the video enjoyed I wonder tho I have never seen it how about doing a review on the Honda goldwing Trike
Wish mine would show up at the dealer. Myself and all other Honda dealers in Michigan have been waiting since April for new Goldwings to show up.
Hey Chris, I know safety is a big issue with you as it is with me, I do wish you would mention more often that one of the only not back-lit switches is the horn also difficult to find in a emergency situation. A larger horn button or reposition to the top of the switch panal would add a amazing amount of safety to the bike
Funny you should mention this… Just today on my way home from work, I had to do some emergency braking in the freeway because some distracted driver decided he wanted to be in my lane. And without looking took my lane. Now I purchased an 18 Tour DCT back in August 2018 and put around 28,000 miles on it before I got into an accident and totaled it in November 2021. Then in February 2022, I purchased a 22 Tour DCT, and have only around 4,000 miles on it. So in about 32,000 and a little over 4 years of riding this 6th Generation Goldwing, I’ve only operated the horn a handful of times. In the beginning, it took a while to get the mussel memory of the horn location. I’ve hit the push to talk button on numerous occasions trying to operate the horn in close call situations. But over time I have trained myself and now have mussel memory of the horn location, I activated the horn during my evasive maneuver without even thinking about it. My thumb just goes there. I created a habit of covering the horn button when my spider senses start going off, just incase. But just like any skill, it takes time and practice to make actions second nature and automatic through mussel memory.
Keep safe, keep practicing, keep the shiny side up, and keep riding.
Thank you always for the great info. Im looking for your personal opinion DCT vs 6 speed, thank you very much.
Interesting. It sounds like Honda's automotive side limits the Goldwing. Many modern motorcycles (including from Japan) have made major strides in suspension electronics where Honda (and HD) stick with ABS only. The 6 axis IMUs and the systems that are possible with them are truly amazing in making bikes safer, like cornering ABS, traction control, and automatic suspension adjustments. I have been a subscriber for years and like your content. I would say this is most critical, if not scathing review that I have seen.
Scathing? Nothing about a Gold Wing is limiting. It’s humans with limits. These are bikes are genius.
Thank you for the very informative video of the gold wing. Gold wing or K1600 . Which one I should choose?
How is the low-speed maneuverability with a DCT? I am used to a clutch friction zone and use of rear brake on my current FLHXS looking at maybe switching to the '24 GW. Thanks in advance for the input.
New to the channel and very much appreciate your in depth content. QQ. You mention the current seat being less than comfortable. Curious which after market seat you like/recommend? Thx. J
Hi Curiseman, I am installing a dual dash camera system on my 2023 goldwing. Can you place the front camera inline with the front fender underneath the fairing? Or could the suspension compress enough to hit the camera off the fender?
Nice job on your review
Good info but way too many ads. The UA-cam platform is getting abusive in the ads. Thank you for the well thought out video. I am in the market for a Goldwing. Looks like I can buy a 22 and save a few bucks and get the same bike as the 23.
Loved my 1981 goldwing to me the new gold wings with the non traditional gas tanks don't look like a motorcycle just my opinion, this is why I got the 2020 yamaha starventure its an awesome touring bike!
Brilliant review as always...
I'm looking to get a tourer in the next 18 months.. love to see the BMW 1250RT V K1600 V PURSUIT v the Goldwing in a face off.
I would love to review the 1250 RT
@@cruisemansgarage when I spoke with the BMW salesman he said that the RT for him was BMW best bike 👌
Good video, I own a 2016 Goldwing and would love to ride one of the newer ones, but can't find anywhere to demo ride one.
really enjoyed this. I bought a 2006 a year ago. Have put 28,ooo miles on it so far. at some point in the future I will upgrade to a 2021 or higher. Thanks for the honesty. I shall wait for some upgrades in tech.
I haven’t ridden a Goldwing since 2019. I rode with a friend down to Daytona Bike week. He rides a Goldwing. I ride a Harley. I rode everything they offered at the track, but Honda didn’t do test rides from the track. They wanted you to ride down to the closest dealership to do the test rides. They did let us ride further and get a better feel once we signed up and all. My friend believed I would trade my Harley for the Goldwing after the ride. I liked the bike, but not enough to trade my Harley. If I could afford 2 big touring bikes, I might want a Goldwing too, but I am not replacing my Harley.
Owning my 2020 DCT Tour with 14k on it now, no way I will even think on getting the 23. You loose so much selling it and getting what ? New bike ? It will be worth it when they start adding safety and comfort options. Some do it and I don’t understand for what. The Sport mode is my favorite drug. Boy, this bike never fails with the feeling of that rush. Just a sweet machine that got me so spoiled.
How does it drive if you're not whipping the engine near redline? What's the torque at say 3000 rpm? I understand these are square engines, so it should still have plenty of go around idle (which is where it will be at any light or stop sign). Do you feel inclined to downshift to pass, or is it enough to just open the throttle a bit?
Great straight forward honest review. Thanks. Are you aware of any work around to use a dongle or similar to replace the need to constantly have your iPhone connected to use Apple CarPlay?
There are USB Bluetooth adapters you can purchase that you can plug into your left saddle bag or trunk. This will adapter will fool the bikes system into thinking that a headset is connected.
Hope to be testing one soon.
@@danaszalajeski4416 thanks for the tipDana. I ordered one online today.
Just got 2022 DCT. Love it. Thank you for the video. You are very knowledgeable!
The Honda Goldwing has been my dream bike since I was 15 years old. I am now 55 years old and still do not have my Honda Goldwing dream bike. Just saying, anyone has one they’d like to donate, by all means! Lol.
I was about to buy the new 2023 goldwing in black until I saw a 2022 can-am spider limited Rt. In black! For the same price as the goldwing.
More luggage space, the wife loved the wider seat, and the same house power and torque as goldwing. I had to pull the trigger.
Apples to oranges ... the Can-Am is fine, it's just not a motorcycle.
Great unbiased, but fair and informative review as always
I beg to differ.😏
Good review, but I think I would have elaborated on the hill start assist does exactly as advertised, which gives you a 3 second assist, not a hold until ready feature.
I had the option to buy a new 2020 when they came out but opted to buy a 2017 with 5000 miles on it insted.
the newer ones after the 2017 just dont have the storage I need to take a long trip.
You are spot on about Honda dropping the ball on alot of stuff. I think they just don't care anymore.
Next one just might be a BMW. Great review as always. Thanks
Good review, I also rate my 2021 at a 4.7 out of 5!
Ride “safely”, not safe. You “be” safe, or “ride” safely. Great video and very helpful for me as I am considering a new GW.
Would you upgrade your 2018 to 2023 or are they pretty much same and no worth the upgrade? Thanks
Lol, I can tell what you think of the auto start stop for Canadian sold units. I’m hoping that it is set to off in the menu settings and stays off… not have to be set each time you go for a ride (like my car has to be).
My dealer has a new 2023 in the crate but I’ve opted to be put on the list (first one) for one of the 2024. The GW will be my retirement bike and second bike in the stable to my 2020 FJR1300ES.
I had a 1984, 1988, and 1995 GW before getting into sport touring in 2005 with my ST1300. The Wing ceased to interest me until it slimmed down in 2018. Looking forward to the 2024 for next year and will continue watching your videos. Cheers!
Amazing video. I'm a red level Honda tech and been riding for almost 20 years now and I'm at the point where I don't think I want to keep buying Supersport or sport bikes like 600rrs and 1000rrs or a CB1000r and just want something comfortable I can do just about everything with and I think it's about time I just get a Goldwing.
Thank you for your awesome videos...very helpful. I have a 2023 Gold Wing Tour. Can you adjust the handlebars? I would like to adjust them back about an inch or two. Thanks in advance for your help.
It's good and a step up from the last of the gen 5 Goldwings but the lack of a 6 speed manual transmission in Australia killed it for me. As I've said before when my 2012 Goldwing wears out I may have to look at another make, but then the others don't have reverse and with a heavy bike you really need that. Maybe a used 2021 will work....
Cruiseman, great video. One thought, you might mention how a rider could improve your scoring for comfort (ie; seat, windshield, etc) using after market parts and note the average cost associated with doing this. Some of these things are easily corrected, but we all know that there is a cost associated for the improved scoring.
One day I would love to see a direct and very detailed side by side comparison between the new gen 6 and a 2016-2017 Goldwing.
I have a 2012 gold wing and sure enjoy riding when I can. Living in a northern state, fall riding can be cold. I know Honda has heated grips and seats but when will engineers design a way to use engine heat to warm the rider. Sure would be nice to open a vent and have warm air blow towards you to help with cold weather riding. Come on Honda, you pride yourself with innovating thinking, lets make this happen soon.
Cruiseman, I have a 2008 model with the airbag. I want to change the air filter myself. Does your maintenance videos show how to do an air filter install on the airbag model?
Yes. My videos go into great detail on changing the air filter. But, not specifically on the Airbag. The only difference is that you will remove the airbag unit instead of the center pocket. Of course, always disconnect the negative battery cable first.
@@cruisemansgarage thank you. I’ll make that purchase. Thanks for the awesome content.
Looks are 5/5 to me. Good comprehensive review.
Thank you for this great review. Do you have any knowledge when will Honda update the infotainment? I am looking forward for these features:
1. Cruise control radar - the BMW 1250 GT has that neat feature that will slow you down if you are leaning too much and that needs distronic
2. Wireless android auto
3. All digital and configurable dashboard
4. A proper phone compartment, ventilated (like the BMWs)
I test rode a 2022 Goldwing and I LOVED IT. If they put these on the 2024, I am sold!
Hello Sir, I have been interested in the GW for years now, and have noticed that Honda keeps adding more and more tech to the wing. I was wondering if they ( Honda) would ever consider producing a version of the wing that goes back to the basics of riding without all the new fangled gadgets that I feel aren't needed. That would bring the price down to a more comfortable level. $30,000 is a lot of money for a lot of people. Right now in order to afford a wing I am having to look at 1990 up to 2005 once you go above that the price get too much for me personally and the hope of a new wing is out of the question. Maybe I'm just too much of a penny pincher. I don't know may so. Would love to hear back from you about this. Thank you for the videos that you do . Sincerely , G.W. Stevens
I wonder how different the feel was from your personal 2018? ie How much has the ride degraded since your bike was new ?
I feel my Bluetooth pairs much easier on my 22; than it did my 18.
... were I to review, I would agree on all points. Well done!
Wow! That moves. I have a 2009. That 2022 is quick. I won't be getting one, but it moves.
Coming of a 2012 Harley Ultra, as soon as you straddle the GW and lift it off the sidestand, it will feel like a sport bike in comparison. That’s a good thing as the GWDCT weighs in 100 lbs. less than my Harley.
I have heard so much controversy about the suspension on 2018+ Goldwing. Have you ever ridden a wing with a suspension upgrade from Max at Taxxion Dynamics? If so, what are your thoughts on the differences and whether it is worth the investment. Thanks!
Put a deposit on a 2023 bike this past Tuesday and was told probably early spring…no problem….Thursday I get an email that a random 2023 DCT Tour showed up from Honda….I pick it up early next week. 😊 first GW… coming off a Triumph Tiger 900.
In Canada the 2023 is available with the 6 speed manual transmission. I just checked the Honda website
Interesting
What kind of Gopro mount do you use on the handle bar?
Thanks for the review CM. I own a 2021 and find your review to be spot on also. The bike is awesome but also has room for improvement.
The engine changed for the 2023 . It has more power and displacement.
Hi Cruiseman,
Please can you tell me is it possible to upgrade my 2018 dct tour model with new software for smoother gear changes.
Regards, Lido
Chris, I stumbled on your channel by accident when I was researching the Goldwing on UA-cam. Love your channel and content. I’m a early-30s Millennial. I love the GW. I don’t get why it’s called an “old man’s bike”. I think older men ride the GW because they have ridden everything else and know that the GW is the best.
My current touring bike is the 2021 HD Electra Glide Ultra Limited. I have been considering trading it in for the Goldwing. I read online that the 2024 GW, being the 50th anniversary edition, will have a slew of new features including adaptive cruise control, blind spot detection, a new dash, and more. I wonder what you think of these rumours. Is it worth waiting for next year’s model?
Cruiseman, have you any idea if the PGM-FI for the 2023 GL1800 MT can be used as a replacement on a 2018 MT? I ask because the 2023 doesn't have the 112mph limiter, and Guhl can't do it any longer. Just like to have it if needed. Hate the feds. Thanks
Look forward to the direct comparison 2018 to 2022/3
Do we know what the red piece of trim near the engine is? It seems to only be on the bagger version this year.
Well Chris ya did it again... now I want the 2023 lol. But my 2021 bagger will stay here. With me. Never another black bike, n not In love with the red.... great review thanks.
How do I go about getting the map update for my 2021 Goldwing?
I've been a big follower of your channel for some time. I previously owned a 2008 Gold Wing Trike, I have since sold it. The trike was just not for me. I am looking at a 2023 DCT Tour and wanted your opinion on slow speed U-turns and tight maneuvers. I've always used the clutch to keep the engine pre loaded and feather the clutch as I lean the bike in these tight turns. With no clutch are these maneuvers more difficult or is it a non issue? Again I love your videos and live in Hudson Oaks just off I-20 and know you like the McDonalds in Willow Park to stop on your way to see your brother in Midland. Maybe we can meet up sometime and ride. Take care and be safe.
Bonjour , j'ai une Goldwing 1800DCT 2023 , Honda ne distribue plus son porte bagage , avez-vous des informations sur cet accessoire ? Merci pour votre travail .
Hello I like your videos on Honda Goldwing. I am wondering will Honda have a Metallic Paint color Black for 2024 . I see they only have Matte Black for 2023 a color I just do not like. I do own a 2014 Goldwing Trike now but want to upgrade to DCT Touring with Hannigan Generation 3 kit. Do you know if 2024 will have Metallic Black for this year coming and if so what month will it be available
Thanks
Brendan
Have you evaluated and installed blind spot detection systems?
I currently ride a 2020 DCT in the ardent red. Fantastic bike but I have made a decision to sell it and I’m going to try an Indian pursuit.
Great review. I just bought my first Goldwing and it's a hell of a bike. I notice that Cruiseman uses a HJC helmet. I was steered away at cycle gear today and ended up dropping almost $1K on an Arai. I retired my 12 year old Arai. I am big on less helmet noise. Did I get bent over?
Arai is definitely a level above HJC. But, they are pricey.
If you left happy does it really matter?
@@2wheelsr2wheels39
I have always told new riders....if you don't want to spend the money on an Arai helmet, then don't try one on.
Doesn’t matter what you pay for an Arai, they are tops in helmet technology and design. Protecting your noggin is priceless.