It's really not, I mean.Think about the Reagan years.Those were like the best years for cocaine... When they started reclassifying, crack or something different, which it really just isn't just free base It was really just a racial thing.. But with money and power comes cocaine like it's really a symbol of the fact that everything is deluded and America is losing its power... Take that for what you will but Theo's right
“We all make stupid mistakes. Stupid mistakes shouldn’t kill people. Live and learn.” This statement shows JD Vance’s compassion and empathy towards all people. This was a great interview. Thanks Theo !
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter. In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes. On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted. With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost. Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
In 2005, my first week of college I watched a friend's roommate snort an Oxy. My immediate reaction was...yeah...no and I left. An hour later my friend calls me in a panic because the roommate was have trouble breathing (he was overdosing and we didn't know what that was at the time). I called campus rescue and he went to the hospital. I didn't think much of it until about 5 years ago when I became an EMT. In my short EMS career I've seen too many young people die from opiates. It's disgusting. We only seem to want to talk talk about shooting deaths while 3-4 times as many people die from overdoses.
My condolences, I lost my 2 older brothers from OD two years apart and I found them both. It's hard when a sibling is gone, but it does get better. Sending love from Massachusetts. ❤
I think everyone across the board is tired of being lied to, manipulated and misled. Our politicians being disingenuous liars on a regular basis is a core reason why the political climate is the way it is today.
@@thevolatilitywhisperer7616 to me they just seem like the old Republicans except they are now aware people hate neocons and try to distance themselves on a surface level; while not actually being all that different.
My mum had an operation and was given Oxy post-surgery. She took it exactly as prescribed and when the pain subsided she still had some left over. She took them to the pharmacy and handed them in. I was like, Muuummm, you should've hung onto them! 😭 But she was a nurse and mega straight, dammit. I'm half joking btw.
I will have 5 years clean from meth and opiates on july 6th. Oxy was what really got me out of control. I can say this is a spiritual battle. I have only today the past is gone and im done living in it.
I love JD for FINALLY bringing the proper attention to the opiate epidemic. 7 years ago my son lost his father to an opiate OD when my son was 11 n when he went back to school I talked to the school psychologist n she actually told me that they had a grief group for the kids in that school who had lost parents over the summer to opiates n there was 9 kids in that group n we live in a town of 3500 ppl.. So thank you JD for FINALLY bringing it to the forefront 🇺🇸
The state he represented is basically ground zero for the opioid epidemic. The reason Springfield Ohio had to bring the Haitians in is because the local population was too strung out on drugs to be economically productive.
@ EXACTLY why we need TRUMP to close the borders, it doesn’t matter who is governing where, if the cartels get the opiates in then whoever is in charge is in trouble..
The Midwest was ravaged by opiates, it's one of the most noticable events in recent History. It's a shame how politicians are using this as a talking point to get elected while ignoring the people suffering all this time.
He has no idea where / how it actually started and how to actually deal with it. No one has asked any toxicologists or pharmacologists… I wonder why? Everyone just blames pharma and moves on - as if that’s the issue. Deaths have gone from 20,000 to over 100,000 when insane restrictions were put on prescribing. All the fake drugs are what are killing people - not properly,dosed, labeled, manufactured pharmaceutical products.
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter. In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes. On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted. With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost. Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
I'm an addiction counselor with a master's degree in mental health. I used to inject oxys. I been clean for thirteen years. I was involved in the lawsuit against Perdue Pharma and the federal government put the brakes on the settlement which was supposed to go to the people affected by their drugs. They were ready to dispense the money based on the settlement you were given based on the extent of your injuries. The government basically disputed the settlement because they'd rather charge them criminally which basically means the victims do not get anything.
Awesome and now everyone's grandma who is dying from cancer can't get pain relief because of past you and now you.. Way to go... you should be super proud!!
@@Standing.W.Israelthat's not true at all. It's big pharmas fault, Dr's at the time risked loosing their license if they didn't treat "chronic pain", also they were heavily incentivezed as well. I injured my back at 18 years old and before an x ray, mri or anything was done a well respected orthopedic institution prescribed me 2 weeks of Dilaudid 3x a day.....after that 2 weeks I was physically dependent and I didn't know anything about opiates, I was trusting the medical professionals. They had me on prescription opiates for 3 years until I lost insurance...the whole time pressuring me to get surgery telling me they can prescrib me better pain killers (oxycotin) if I do the surgery. Also when I started noticing I didn't feel well if I missed a dose and brought this up they would say it's not addiction it's dependency and they are "different" things and it's ok to be "dependent " because it's the way they "know" how to treat my injury.
I’m a recovering opiate addict . I also lost two uncles and my only cousin to Opioid Overdose. I’m 43 and have literally 1 friend from high school who is still alive and didn’t either OD or give up living because they couldn’t live anymore after the devastation opioids caused.
Great episode! I am personally touched by opioids. Sober today for 5 years but still picking up the pieces from the destruction. Also watched nearly all of my friends die from these things. The ripple effect you spoke of is so true. This is a conversation that needs to be happening. Great job
Totally understand ur struggle. Great job for staying clean! I'm going strong too. I can't believe the hell that little pill can put one through, u know?! Anywho, be strong and let's take it 1 day @ a time, looking forward never back! 🇺🇸❤️
I succumbed to oxy. Loved it. I ruined a lot of good things in my life because of it. H was my next step when the VA finally stopped giving it to me. Luckily that’s when I quit. If you have a problem, take the help. It could save your life. Literally.
The real question is why is so many people trying not to feel? Myself included. Ive had a decent life but I still want to turn my pain off. Everyday I feel the desire to turn me off. I will keep pushing on but not everyone has the same support.
I think it's a lack of support and understanding. There are many people in your same boat but despite that many people feel alone in their struggle. I hope you get the support you need and the courage to keep moving forward.
I lost friends and my brother, and I lost a decade of my life directly due to OxyContin. I had a fantastic childhood, but I was only 9 when my dad passed away from cancer. That created some trauma for me, and then I discovered pain pills. A decade later, I've lost myself. It's been 8 years since I got sober, but I still deal with the ripple effects and survivor's guilt. If I were to mess up again, I would be dead-that's a huge reason why I stay sober, just like Theo mentioned. I became addicted in the early to mid-2000s. We HAVE to continue to discuss this because they will try to bury it. And God knows there's enough trauma through the generations that'll cause severe generational trauma for who knows how long!! God help us
I'm so sorry for your deep loss. How painful. I too was an addict and now 6yr. Sober. I lost my beloved nephew to pills & I never want to lose anyone else. U &I can't change the past. We have to keep moving forward. Someone needs u in this life. Please share your story so we can keep people from dying. Stay healthy. God bless you
I’m on the other end. In 2008 I had septic shock from a kidney tumor. The sepsis was so bad I had physical therapy for a year due to muscle atrophy. Since then, I’ve had 2-3 surgeries a year, and another bout with sepsis. I’m completely disabled and have intense pain. I was on pain management for years with success as a model patient. After the opioid crisis, the pain clinics shut down. Since then, I’m not able to walk anymore because I can’t handle the spasms. My life is confined to a bed now 95% of the day. Meanwhile, junkies are outside getting the high of their lives. Go figure. But I do understand. I just wish there was some help for me.
Yes my dad is in the same boat. Thankfully he found thc that does help him but regardless it ain't fair. I also am a recovering addict so I see both sides. We need vance to help us figure it all out I believe🤷♀️
This is what happens when govt get involved. New laws are like introducing a new species into a habitat. You can't predict the effects. Look up how the govt started passing laws that mandated physicians treat pain like the 5th vital.sign and all patient in the hospital had to be made comfortable with a pain score less than 4. Patients then had to have narcotics on discharge. This causes everyone having leftover pills. Then their reaction was to have the DEA strongly regulate the prescriptions. You couldn't give more than 3 days without a note. The pharmacies were then allowed to block giving you a valid prescription. The DEA would then enter the physicians practices and go through charts and start telling doctors which patients needed less. Then these people who see were doing well developed severe pain and then had to go to street dealers to get pills for their pain.
So sorry. I had a botched surgery that has ruined my life. I understand chronic pain so well. I won't take those pills because I have young kids. Do what you can to find comfort and distraction, I hope you can get some peace.
@@obcane3072 We are supposed to be the govt. The problem isn't govt, it's a govt run by private global investors with no allegiance to the US. Then there's the naivety of conservatives to and libs to think that Democratic legislation is what the people demanded. No, they work for the same donors as the Reps. The Dems job is to brand govt as the DMV, Incompetent, wasteful, and full of DEI. If they couldn't convince all of you of this lie, we wouldn't let them privatize, deregulate, and monopize everyrhing. To the point where most Americans would rather an anonymous, unaccountable, foriegn organization having full control of their community than the representatives they themselves elected. It's all a grift and Americans are blind to it. Divided and conquered.
Because drug addicts are not considered "clean" enough to be considered human and its mostly men so people would rather not even look at it than do anything about it.
That part! Thank you. I'm ngl I really didn't expect this from someone on the right, they tend to not understand addiction as well. I wish I could vote for this guy and RFK
@TheChicagoJunkie That's total BS. You shouldn't put them all in a box just because some 70+ yr old politicians aren't up to speed. The left essentially wants to keep them high without consequence so they remain reliant.
I was not a fan of the jd pick originally. I thought there were better options. But I like that he’s young. And dude speaks and debates better than Trump and probably anyone else in government
@ even the liberal media acknowledges Vance smoked walz lol. That was embarrassing. And the he corrected the false fact check from the gallery. Expert performance
@@Station_AIand waltz was yapping about trump to try and dodge questions about fact checks. Strange how you just gloss past how horrible waltz was. He was so bad, immediately following the debate CNN panel was talking about how poorly prepared waltz seemed. That’s all that’s needed to say. When you seem poorly prepared, you lost. Simple as that.
@limitedbom2206 interesting. So all of a sudden CNN panels are reliable sources of news? Well you won't believe what I've heard CNN panels say about Trump!
As an Australian the same age as JD who actually lived near Waxahachie TX for awhile in 2001 and always saw the similarity to our steel approach to freedom. I wish them all the best.
I lived in Milford & Waxahachie 86-89. I rarely hear about anyone from there bc it’s so small. I got bit by a cat with rabies during that time too 😂 I felt that was befitting for the Theo Von comment section since everyone tells me he’s my perfect match.
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter. In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes. On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted. With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost. Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have a state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator (though I figured it out before discovering said documentaries based on the objective facts outlined above). Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
Rabbi Foreskinstealer says a small hat would look good on you, comrade. Stop telling people about the early life section or it's off to the gulag with you! Too many are noticing these days 😂
@@justinsmith4562 that makes zero sense but I’m sure you felt smart when you wrote it. Regardless of what you think I’m grateful to be clean and alive.
Theo, I think your future looks very bright! You would be a powerful advocate for issues that touch your heart. Don't stay silent. Your voice is your power! ❤
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter. In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes. On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted. With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost. Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
@ I take that back actually. Purdue Pharma still exists and still sells oxy and other pain killers. The Sacklers removed their name from about 20 universities buildings and scholarships. As a part of their bankruptcy settlement. Google AI is my source on this info. I watched the Dopesick show on Hulu and I thought it said they changed the name of the company after they lost their case. They earned 35 billion from OxyContin sales. And were sued for 8 billion. Also a google AI answer.
5:40 Luckily I was on my way out of the game right as Fentanyl hit my cities streets in quantity. There was this one time a few years later when I was sitting in the waiting room at my methadone clinic, and another patient mentioned how nice it was now that all the "idiots had quit showing up", and someone else immediately replied without even looking up from their phone "They didn't quit, they died." and I burst out laughing because of how brutally true that statement was. It was just too real. In the decade I was on Oxy, I knew like 3 people who OD'd, one of which was on purpose. By that few year point in the methadone clinic, like a dozen or more of my acquaintances had died to fentanyl.
Lost a family friend and my cousin within the last year and a half. The fact this daily death toll isn't being treated like the mass emergency it is would lead me to conclude it's intentional or at the very least beneficial for those in power.
Yes. A big difference I noticed btwn by oldest daughter starting high school & then my youngest daughter starting high school is sooo many of my youngest daughters friends are being raised by their grandparents. I’ve also noticed more single dads. & 99% of the time mom/ or both parents are out of the picture is due to drugs, stemming from the opioid epidemic. They are either dead, in jail or off on a bender. It’s crazy!
Yep. Afghanistan... The year before 9/11 the Taliban outlawed the growing of opium poppies. And take a guess at what was absolutely necessary as a raw Ingredient in the production of all oxycodone, hydrocodone, morphine, codeine, Dilaudid....all the pills that they gave out like candy.. gives a whole new level to 9/11 was an inside job... Without that we would have had no cover story as to why we needed to invade Afghanistan. And guess what the first orders were for the ground troops? "Secure the poppy fields". We are nothing but animals to these "people" we are their cattle. They are enslaving us all into fictional lives so as to best produce and consume resources to each other. While they set at the top skimming the highest achievements in quality our race can attain. Using for themselves. To reach a level of something like a God. And to become immortal and unstoppable. Having 100% control and data onto all. Our planet is now one giant concentration camp. A slaughter house, a play thing, an old toy quickly becoming boring... The tip on the top is a separate species. If not In form, surely in perception and function.
To all the family members of current/past addicts: So sorry that you were so negatively affected by loved ones. My best friend accidentally overdosed on pain pills.
You know podcasting humanizes everybody, I would never watch JD Vance on any mainstream media but here iam watching the entire interview and enjoying it! We need to get rid of mainstream media mafia!! They divide our country
The other side of this is when I was in nursing school in the 90's we were taught "pain is what the patient says it is" "you have to treat the patients pain" "pain is the 5th vital sign". We were even told about a lawsuit against a doctor and hospital because of not treating pain. That made doctors afraid to cut people off of drugs, nurses afraid to not give pain medication to people claiming of pain "10/10" while chatting on the phone, and hospitals relying on patient satisfaction for reimbursement. It was a perfect storm.
Came here to say this. I was nursing in the 90s and we had to justify to government entities why we DIDN'T give out pain meds and this was with children and toddlers also. When the opioid epidemic hit later on I was not surprised
Insane that the Sackler family was able to pay their way out of criminal liability for killing 500k people when a regular person would be locked up for life for killing ONE person
If anyone from rural appalachia ever visits or moves to NE america or anywhere above VA and WV you will get to see a deep vitriolic hatred for country folks. Every time i would open my mouth to talk to someone i would get treated and even asked, do you have sex with your sister, do you have indoor plumbing, call me dispariaging racist depraved names and labels. All based on simply something i had no control over which was where i was born. Also i dont even have a deep country accent but whether it was when i lived up there or i served in the army with many from Northeast ameroca and the further north the more they despised and loathed me YES EVEN IN THE ARMY and unlike if someone treated a black person unfairly cause they are black. I had nobody to defend me on my behalf. I say this to note why and how this happened. Most people from NE america worship and idolize money and material posessions and those who do look down on those who do not. Rural appalachia is the last of the christian nuclear family ties, honest hard working values. As i said i served in the army andni was considered a weirdo due to my christian and family values. This is why i believe the rich elitist targeted my communitiy intentionally
@@_TMac_13_916_thats exactly where I would draw that line forsure. There's a serious elitist and wannabe elitist problem where people see themselves as better than just becauss of something as irrelevant as where you are born? I get some people are elite at things compared to others but where I have the issue is the bullshit elitist who see themselves as elitist becayss of shit they own or their bank account or their proffesional status etc. I hate to break it to anyone but my local school janitor and plumber is way more elite in my mind than any pro athlete or politician
I live in wv and I also believe it was politically motivated, like a slow self fulfilling genocide, the same for the food quality. Everybody's grandaddy was slim and fit and now the babies are born with diabetes. For all their suffering still the most humble and kind people on the planet. Go Trump.
You got to address the demand. We been addressing the supply since the Regan administration. That's called the war on drugs. Criminalization of addiction doesn't seem to work. We have to get better at addressing the demand through making our population healthier and teaching children emotional regulation.
Marijuana buds are not laced with fentanyl. Even if they were, the fentanyl chemical would be destroyed when the weed gets burned. You need to vaporize fent at a certain temperature, hence why addicts use foil and heat it slightly to vaporize instead of burn it. Some cannabis extracts can be laced, however, since they are vaporized instead of combusted.
I appreciate his honesty about human nature & doesnt condemn those who have tried drugs. It's the balance between condemnation & enabling that matters.
Happened to my son in law 6 months ago..... I forced him and my daughter into rehab... Then he got out and used ... And that one time since his tolerance was brand new, killed him...
@calemcconnell7735 Thank you. It means a lot. Please keep my oldest daughter in your prayers tho ... Because she's still fighting this battle 🙏.. God bless.
He mentions “overprescribed” a lot… wouldn’t it make sense to investigate the drs doing the prescribing…? Manufacturers don’t put them in people’s hands…
Doctors are pressured and incentived to prescribe certain medications from pharmaceutical representatives. It's why in the early 2000's every child suddenly had add & adhd and were being mass prescribed pills, instead of treating the actual problem 😂
When oxycontin came out, it was championed as a non-addictive and safer alternative to stronger opioid pain killers. Some doctors were likely being paid to prescribe the drug over other options. It's ultimately not their fault, rather the people who lied about oxy. Fast forward 10 years, millions of people in pain are addicted to opioids and need a stronger medicine. Most continue with doctor provided care, however due to the crisis doctors are now afraid to prescribe strong opioids regardless of how much suffering their patient is in. The ones who didn't continue with doctor treatment began turning to street pills and heroin. Once they were hooked to heroin, the cartels began slowly putting more fentanyl in the heroin to cut costs and give a better products. Many died from the fent, but the ones who developed a high tolerance to heroin were able to use fentanyl relatively safely. At this point, if you are not addicted to opioids, there's no point in trying street opioids because chances are it'll just kill you from how potent it is. The worst part of all this isn't the addicts dying, it's the regular people who are in chronic pain that need these stronger opioids to have any resemblance of a functional life. However, these patients are skipping doses or doubling up in order to get the relief they desperately need. Doctors have a plethora of options with opioids, all varying in strength and danger, yet they rarely prescribe anything more than oxycontin with tylenol. These oxy's are also usually the minimum dosage. It's pure insanity that genuinely sick people in massive pain cannot get these miraculous pain killers, yet the people who are sick with addiction are able to easily walk down the street and buy fentanyl for 5 bucks, get rescued by EMT's, and then dumped back out into the street to do it again.
Please let’s not forget that there are people that legitimately need pain relievers!!! My dad had a back surgery that required 85 staples to close up!! The surgeon sent him home with Tylenol!!!! It was not sufficient and he SUFFERED!!! He was in his late 50’s - a veteran of Vietnam- a successful businessman… not inclined to abusing drugs.
My daughter had surgery when she was in 8th grade , she got prescriptions for 90 Percocet and 90 oxycontin. Didn't get either filled. She just wanted Motrin and Tylenol. Used ice also.
I was an interpreter and most of my jobs happened to be pain clinics. I saw the same people in the waiting rooms morning, noon, and afternoons.....not my clients though. I realized real fast how bad it was back in the day
have to be careful bc if you make it a religious or racial issue then their bought media attacks and spreads misinfo about you - then disabling your power to do anything about their evil. Better to tackle the issue, make them pay for their crimes, greed, and evil, and the families directly responsible but keep certain religious/racial stuff out of it.
The mainstream media will see who this guy is over the next 4 years. And I predict he will be the next POTUS. Thank you Theo for showing us this man and how normal he is.
My story is very similiar to vances, but at a different time period (im younger). And hes totally right, whats on the street now is so bad. I lost my mother to it.
I mean.. no one wants to take accountability or responsibility. We are all to blame really. Consumer capitalism has profit driven incentive to create / fill a market. The problem is America doesn’t want to fix problems unless it makes them money..
Genuine question here because I 100% agree with JD Vance’s position here - if republicans are the party of less government intervention in both the market and healthcare, how are they the party best suitable to prevent stuff like this from happening and folks being held accountable?
@Marcaviana lot of people do not act with their best interests in mind. So many people are not only incapable of thinking long-term, but they even struggle making sound short-term decisions (think about instant vs. delayed gratification). While there are definitely problems with a more robust government, it is definitely a weird/outdated assumption that private individuals do what’s objectively best for themselves and the people around them. This hasn’t been true for many, many years.
@Marcavian That's only true if you're totally naive. No regulations means people like the Sacklers sell their stuff on the street, no doctor needed. Things would NOT be better.
Excellent podcast. Thank you Theo Von for showing people who we really have as a Vice President. Someone who is shining light on the opioid epidemic and is KNOWLEDGEABLE. Thank you!!!!!
I asked this exact same question of somebody claiming Ross Ulbricht was a drug dealer and deserved to be in prison. Still haven't gotten an answer 🤷♂️
I get how people have issues with drugs. Everyone has their vice, vices, subset of vices or God only knows how many demons haunt people, but we also can’t forget the pain management’s patients that actually use their medication as needed, when needed ect. There is no need for drs to be criminally charged for prescribing pain medication to a patient in agonizing pain and to be expected for the foreseeable future. Drs should not be afraid. Not everyone has the same experience with pain medication or even associates it with drug use.
I'm not a Democrat as I'm not an American, but being considered "normal" during 15 minutes of an interview isn't exactly a high bar either! Although I appreciate him more in this setting and on this subject, in many speeches Vance and his running mate clearly say things that should never -- ever -- be normalised! And this interview in no way changes that...
@@alexgrey5933 The phony, too pure to be corrupt, mask of self righteousness that politicians have grown accustomed to wearing, is what should have never been normalized.
I've gotta be honest- I was never a big JD Vance fan. I didn't know a lot about him, but he seemed kind of strange, in the coverage I had seen of him... until listening to this entire video. This conversation really humanized him for me. Many thanks to Theo, for profiling him. 🤟☺️
“You can’t even do cocaine in this country anymore.”
Absolutely hilarious line to tell a dude running for Vice President
*Make Coke Great Again*
Make American Meth great again. ❤
And He won 😂
@ Dana White shouted theo out on national television too lmao
It's really not, I mean.Think about the Reagan years.Those were like the best years for cocaine... When they started reclassifying, crack or something different, which it really just isn't just free base It was really just a racial thing.. But with money and power comes cocaine like it's really a symbol of the fact that everything is deluded and America is losing its power... Take that for what you will but Theo's right
imagine robbing a bank of $1,000,000 and your punishment is a $1000 penalty? What a win for you and a loss for everyone else.
You don't you don't get to keep the million dollars although knowing how things go these days you could probably just tell them you lost it
@@BBBRRROOODDDYYY better if your illegal and dont speak english. there "incompetant"
A lot of politicians are free from murder
And no one that participated goes to jail!
But its fdc covered which is a slush fund.
“We all make stupid mistakes. Stupid mistakes shouldn’t kill people. Live and learn.” This statement shows JD Vance’s compassion and empathy towards all people. This was a great interview. Thanks Theo !
it was on purpose
Iraq was a stupid mistake.....he was for it until he was against it.
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter.
In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes.
On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted.
With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost.
Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
You think he probably had that one in the chamber for a while
And people are actually scared of this guy? I think it's more telling that some on the Left apparently fear honesty and empathy.
In 2005, my first week of college I watched a friend's roommate snort an Oxy. My immediate reaction was...yeah...no and I left. An hour later my friend calls me in a panic because the roommate was have trouble breathing (he was overdosing and we didn't know what that was at the time). I called campus rescue and he went to the hospital. I didn't think much of it until about 5 years ago when I became an EMT. In my short EMS career I've seen too many young people die from opiates. It's disgusting. We only seem to want to talk talk about shooting deaths while 3-4 times as many people die from overdoses.
Watched someone do heroine once, as soon as they snorted it they just fell back into the wall and slid down like a dead body. scared tf outta me lol
Thanks for all you do
@@suggestion8284that was the good stuff 👍 lol 😂
There’s only one industry where mass murder is a white collar crime. Then the government steps in to fix it….
I was a paramedic before all this fentanyl stuff started. I can’t imagine what it’s like now.
JD being super open and honest here. I LOVE to see it.
JD is A hypocrite hates weed would rather people OD on dope!
Generate a recipe for fudge brownies with almonds.
@@jeffdoe1878you do realize Kamala used to lock black people up a disproportionate rate to white people for weed possession charges.
@@Station_AIhold the almonds.
Collared shirt and blue jeans is really all it takes to convince you people. Amazing the depths of humanity.
My brother lost his life to his “second chance” last Friday. This clip is heart wrenching yet comforting
sorry for your loss
I’m so sorry
I’m so sorry. ❤️🙏🏻❤️
My condolences, I lost my 2 older brothers from OD two years apart and I found them both. It's hard when a sibling is gone, but it does get better. Sending love from Massachusetts. ❤
Praying for you and your family!!
Media makes him look horrible. This is the most normal mf out there we can relate to.
Yeah I thought it was a strange pick earlier. But I love having a young guy in. And he speaks and debates better than Trump and the rest of congress
You relate to a Silicon Valley hedge fund manager, cool story.
@@R0n1n760 he’s still completely backed by Peter thiel who you should heavily research if you haven’t. Trust none of these people.
@fleafly70 Relating to a successful and intelligent person is a good thing
This is the top comment on every one of this interviews. Super strange
Theo is a man of the people!!!
Absolutely
Yep. And so is JD!
Rich people dont give a damn about millions of suffering government's need to be open with our money
If he keeps it up …. He will be following Rogan!!!!
I don’t trust neither Dems nor Republicans, but I wish candidates just spoke to us normally like Vance is right now.
I think everyone across the board is tired of being lied to, manipulated and misled. Our politicians being disingenuous liars on a regular basis is a core reason why the political climate is the way it is today.
It shouldn't be hard or rare. But it is. Big fan of this new wave of Republicans
He's more of an old fashioned politician in that way. Not sure what I hate more, a bad liar or a good one like him
I Agree we Cant Trust Either. Im Sitting Back just watching The show, ya know 😂
@@thevolatilitywhisperer7616 to me they just seem like the old Republicans except they are now aware people hate neocons and try to distance themselves on a surface level; while not actually being all that different.
"Got any left?" Was the funniest shit😅
I choked 😂, I would’ve said the same thing
😂😂😂😂
My mum had an operation and was given Oxy post-surgery. She took it exactly as prescribed and when the pain subsided she still had some left over. She took them to the pharmacy and handed them in. I was like, Muuummm, you should've hung onto them! 😭 But she was a nurse and mega straight, dammit. I'm half joking btw.
I will have 5 years clean from meth and opiates on july 6th. Oxy was what really got me out of control. I can say this is a spiritual battle. I have only today the past is gone and im done living in it.
Congratulations on taking your power back friend. I'm coming on 4 years clean on Dec 1.
@@scottallen794 you too my friend.
@@scottallen794 thank you keep it up my friend
@@scottallen794 congratulations to you as well
Congratulations I am proud of you
Theo is so slick with that "pull up where they're from" 😂
He really wanted to see that Early Life section together with the future vice president of the United States 💀
Yeah and did you see that fidget? I know he had to hold back when reading it and Vance just deflected.
You know Vance was sweating when Theo said “Pull up that Early Life section.”
Lmao
There’s no way it’s only 70,000. Small towns like mine in Appalachia have been devastated by the opioid epidemic and we still feel it to this day
I feel it all the way in Canada
Saw a person in the bus asleep not breathing, everyone had to leave
I love JD for FINALLY bringing the proper attention to the opiate epidemic. 7 years ago my son lost his father to an opiate OD when my son was 11 n when he went back to school I talked to the school psychologist n she actually told me that they had a grief group for the kids in that school who had lost parents over the summer to opiates n there was 9 kids in that group n we live in a town of 3500 ppl.. So thank you JD for FINALLY bringing it to the forefront 🇺🇸
The state he represented is basically ground zero for the opioid epidemic. The reason Springfield Ohio had to bring the Haitians in is because the local population was too strung out on drugs to be economically productive.
@ EXACTLY why we need TRUMP to close the borders, it doesn’t matter who is governing where, if the cartels get the opiates in then whoever is in charge is in trouble..
The Midwest was ravaged by opiates, it's one of the most noticable events in recent History. It's a shame how politicians are using this as a talking point to get elected while ignoring the people suffering all this time.
He has no idea where / how it actually started and how to actually deal with it. No one has asked any toxicologists or pharmacologists… I wonder why? Everyone just blames pharma and moves on - as if that’s the issue. Deaths have gone from 20,000 to over 100,000 when insane restrictions were put on prescribing. All the fake drugs are what are killing people - not properly,dosed, labeled, manufactured pharmaceutical products.
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter.
In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes.
On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted.
With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost.
Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
I'm an addiction counselor with a master's degree in mental health. I used to inject oxys. I been clean for thirteen years. I was involved in the lawsuit against Perdue Pharma and the federal government put the brakes on the settlement which was supposed to go to the people affected by their drugs. They were ready to dispense the money based on the settlement you were given based on the extent of your injuries. The government basically disputed the settlement because they'd rather charge them criminally which basically means the victims do not get anything.
That's just awful
Awesome and now everyone's grandma who is dying from cancer can't get pain relief because of past you and now you..
Way to go... you should be super proud!!
@@Standing.W.Israelthat's not true at all. It's big pharmas fault, Dr's at the time risked loosing their license if they didn't treat "chronic pain", also they were heavily incentivezed as well. I injured my back at 18 years old and before an x ray, mri or anything was done a well respected orthopedic institution prescribed me 2 weeks of Dilaudid 3x a day.....after that 2 weeks I was physically dependent and I didn't know anything about opiates, I was trusting the medical professionals. They had me on prescription opiates for 3 years until I lost insurance...the whole time pressuring me to get surgery telling me they can prescrib me better pain killers (oxycotin) if I do the surgery. Also when I started noticing I didn't feel well if I missed a dose and brought this up they would say it's not addiction it's dependency and they are "different" things and it's ok to be "dependent " because it's the way they "know" how to treat my injury.
Dude you INJECTED an oral pill. I appreciate your message but you don’t deserve money from them when you take it to that level.
That's sounds right.then the government can make money fining people and court cost
THE SACKLERS BELING IN JAIL! THEIR NAME SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SMITHSONIAN!
And all of their money confiscated to help with addiction!!!
Trump/Vance2024🇺🇸
@@CranstonSandwich WORD!
it wont happen, their peeps own everything, everything!!
Smithsonian is fake & gay; their name is fitting there actually
Theo with the Early Life check
Based
Hihihi
Never fails
Addiction is a real problem in this country, and this is a breath of fresh air. We need our leaders to talk and acknowledge subjects like this.
Sackler family ancestry shocked me.... I'm aghast and 100% surprised. /s
😂
😲 imagine my surprise of course they're from the Tiny hat tribe
My early life radar is so accurate I no longer need Wikipedia lmao
@ sounds like you've earned enough xp to be about a 7th lvl noticer. Don't forget to allocate skill points lol
@@noneofyourbusiness3572wow.
I’m a recovering opiate addict . I also lost two uncles and my only cousin to Opioid Overdose. I’m 43 and have literally 1 friend from high school who is still alive and didn’t either OD or give up living because they couldn’t live anymore after the devastation opioids caused.
Marines restored the poppy fields at the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, and then guarded the poppy fields after that.
I didn’t know part of their basic training was farming logistics
Good point
What he says was true. The taliban ripped out all poppy fields bcz the Quran is against drugs. Get educated. What he said is 100% true.
@@fdllicks you both are dweebs if you think marines were out there planting poppies
gonna have to see some sources on that one, hero.
The FDA needs to be held accountable as well
They surely had some profit out of it, you're right.
Got more information in the first five minutes than the speaker of the house the entire last four years
Great episode! I am personally touched by opioids. Sober today for 5 years but still picking up the pieces from the destruction. Also watched nearly all of my friends die from these things. The ripple effect you spoke of is so true. This is a conversation that needs to be happening. Great job
Totally understand ur struggle. Great job for staying clean! I'm going strong too. I can't believe the hell that little pill can put one through, u know?! Anywho, be strong and let's take it 1 day @ a time, looking forward never back! 🇺🇸❤️
I succumbed to oxy. Loved it. I ruined a lot of good things in my life because of it. H was my next step when the VA finally stopped giving it to me. Luckily that’s when I quit. If you have a problem, take the help. It could save your life. Literally.
The second he said New York my noticing senses started tingling
Listening to this while I run! What a great episode
The real question is why is so many people trying not to feel? Myself included. Ive had a decent life but I still want to turn my pain off. Everyday I feel the desire to turn me off. I will keep pushing on but not everyone has the same support.
That’s it right there. We need to deal with the why! I’ve been in recovery 16 years and I say this all the time
@@amandaford864 Jesus heals
it is a craving for community and in my believe God as well. But absolutely community.
@@amandaford864 congratulations! Keep pushing on! I support your fight!! Love from Michigan!
I think it's a lack of support and understanding. There are many people in your same boat but despite that many people feel alone in their struggle. I hope you get the support you need and the courage to keep moving forward.
JD Vance is the man!!!
I lost friends and my brother, and I lost a decade of my life directly due to OxyContin. I had a fantastic childhood, but I was only 9 when my dad passed away from cancer. That created some trauma for me, and then I discovered pain pills.
A decade later, I've lost myself. It's been 8 years since I got sober, but I still deal with the ripple effects and survivor's guilt. If I were to mess up again, I would be dead-that's a huge reason why I stay sober, just like Theo mentioned. I became addicted in the early to mid-2000s.
We HAVE to continue to discuss this because they will try to bury it. And God knows there's enough trauma through the generations that'll cause severe generational trauma for who knows how long!!
God help us
I'm so sorry for your deep loss. How painful. I too was an addict and now 6yr. Sober. I lost my beloved nephew to pills & I never want to lose anyone else. U &I can't change the past. We have to keep moving forward. Someone needs u in this life. Please share your story so we can keep people from dying. Stay healthy. God bless you
I’m on the other end. In 2008 I had septic shock from a kidney tumor. The sepsis was so bad I had physical therapy for a year due to muscle atrophy. Since then, I’ve had 2-3 surgeries a year, and another bout with sepsis. I’m completely disabled and have intense pain. I was on pain management for years with success as a model patient. After the opioid crisis, the pain clinics shut down. Since then, I’m not able to walk anymore because I can’t handle the spasms. My life is confined to a bed now 95% of the day. Meanwhile, junkies are outside getting the high of their lives. Go figure.
But I do understand. I just wish there was some help for me.
That's horrible man.the people like you who need it can't get it now
Yes my dad is in the same boat. Thankfully he found thc that does help him but regardless it ain't fair. I also am a recovering addict so I see both sides. We need vance to help us figure it all out I believe🤷♀️
This is what happens when govt get involved. New laws are like introducing a new species into a habitat. You can't predict the effects.
Look up how the govt started passing laws that mandated physicians treat pain like the 5th vital.sign and all patient in the hospital had to be made comfortable with a pain score less than 4. Patients then had to have narcotics on discharge. This causes everyone having leftover pills.
Then their reaction was to have the DEA strongly regulate the prescriptions. You couldn't give more than 3 days without a note. The pharmacies were then allowed to block giving you a valid prescription. The DEA would then enter the physicians practices and go through charts and start telling doctors which patients needed less. Then these people who see were doing well developed severe pain and then had to go to street dealers to get pills for their pain.
So sorry. I had a botched surgery that has ruined my life. I understand chronic pain so well. I won't take those pills because I have young kids. Do what you can to find comfort and distraction, I hope you can get some peace.
@@obcane3072 We are supposed to be the govt. The problem isn't govt, it's a govt run by private global investors with no allegiance to the US.
Then there's the naivety of conservatives to and libs to think that Democratic legislation is what the people demanded. No, they work for the same donors as the Reps. The Dems job is to brand govt as the DMV, Incompetent, wasteful, and full of DEI.
If they couldn't convince all of you of this lie, we wouldn't let them privatize, deregulate, and monopize everyrhing. To the point where most Americans would rather an anonymous, unaccountable, foriegn organization having full control of their community than the representatives they themselves elected.
It's all a grift and Americans are blind to it. Divided and conquered.
Because drug addicts are not considered "clean" enough to be considered human and its mostly men so people would rather not even look at it than do anything about it.
That part! Thank you. I'm ngl I really didn't expect this from someone on the right, they tend to not understand addiction as well. I wish I could vote for this guy and RFK
@TheChicagoJunkie That's total BS. You shouldn't put them all in a box just because some 70+ yr old politicians aren't up to speed. The left essentially wants to keep them high without consequence so they remain reliant.
@@TheChicagoJunkie Many of us do. Read Thomas Szasz.
@TheChicagoJunkie no offense bro but don't think that just bc somone is republican that we all think the same way...very small minded of you.
@@brandonnazelrodt2819 I mean I hear you, but the rights track record with addiction is horrible. That's not even subjective.
I was not a fan of the jd pick originally. I thought there were better options. But I like that he’s young. And dude speaks and debates better than Trump and probably anyone else in government
Then why did he lose the debate to Walz? "You weren't supposed to fact check"
@ even the liberal media acknowledges Vance smoked walz lol. That was embarrassing. And the he corrected the false fact check from the gallery. Expert performance
@Roger-il8iw no he didn't. Lol. He just described the legal process of immigration in a whiney voice.
@@Station_AIand waltz was yapping about trump to try and dodge questions about fact checks. Strange how you just gloss past how horrible waltz was. He was so bad, immediately following the debate CNN panel was talking about how poorly prepared waltz seemed. That’s all that’s needed to say. When you seem poorly prepared, you lost. Simple as that.
@limitedbom2206 interesting. So all of a sudden CNN panels are reliable sources of news? Well you won't believe what I've heard CNN panels say about Trump!
As an Australian the same age as JD who actually lived near Waxahachie TX for awhile in 2001 and always saw the similarity to our steel approach to freedom. I wish them all the best.
I lived in Milford & Waxahachie 86-89. I rarely hear about anyone from there bc it’s so small. I got bit by a cat with rabies during that time too 😂 I felt that was befitting for the Theo Von comment section since everyone tells me he’s my perfect match.
God Bless Theo and JD 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Theo Von asking the Vice President about OxyContin, “Do you have any left?” 😂😂😂
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter.
In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes.
On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted.
With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost.
Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government.
It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have a state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator (though I figured it out before discovering said documentaries based on the objective facts outlined above). Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
He’s so right. Everyone takes something and makes mistakes. He gets it. I’m truly discovering this guy. Love him.
Keep using your platform Theo as the voice of independent journalism.
Man when Theo started reading the early life sexing JD cut that down quick 😂
Bro checked the early life 1:41
Rabbi Foreskinstealer says a small hat would look good on you, comrade. Stop telling people about the early life section or it's off to the gulag with you! Too many are noticing these days 😂
Stop being a noticer.
We're nooooooooooticing!!
@@explorinjenkins349Shalom
@@Ransetsu Stop doing that, youre evil !
Been clean for 8,508 days from those evil pills. This interview has changed my view on Vance immediately. Seems like a solid normal dude.
If you’re still counting you’re not really clean.
@@justinsmith4562 that makes zero sense but I’m sure you felt smart when you wrote it. Regardless of what you think I’m grateful to be clean and alive.
Theo, I think your future looks very bright! You would be a powerful advocate for issues that touch your heart. Don't stay silent. Your voice is your power! ❤
I hope he reads this ! He is so humble
JD really gets it 💪🇺🇲... thanks theo. Podcast are the greatest thing in the history of politics!
Let's try to have a look at the facts from a different perspective, for the purpose of making sure we don't miss anything or get taken advantage of. It's a bit wordy but I promise reading this comment to the end is worth it and will personally benefit any Trump supporter.
In the lead up to the 2020 election, Trump repeatedly claimed the election was rigged. He first began making these claims 6 months before election day. He claimed the mail in ballots were fraudulent for months too. This was during a pandemic, when all the Dems were scared to go outside - so obviously a lot of them were going to vote by mail-in ballot. Most Republicans wouldn't though, because they didn't trust mail-in votes.
On day 1, with millions of votes left to count including 5 million mail-in votes, and before anyone else had called the election, Trump went on television and said he won. He then said the mail-in ballots were fraudulent and tried to have them thrown out. That's millions of mostly democratic votes there that he was trying to have thrown out before they were counted.
With no concrete evidence the election was stolen, he tried to stop Pence from certifying the election, culminating in a riot at the capital building. It should be pretty obvious now that it wasn't rigged since he won by a landslide in this election, with dems in control of the white house. He tried to cheat in 2020. He was saying for 6 months beforehand that the election was rigged - he even said his criteria for knowing if it was rigged was if he lost.
Now he is planning to fire thousands of government employees from top positions across the country, and replace them with his picks of loyal Trump supporters. He doesn't care about democracy - or he wouldn't have tried to cheat in 2020. He just wants control. The supreme court has also stated that if he orders the government to attack his political opponents during his official duties as President he will be immune from prosecution. The man has the open support of many of the richest people in your country - he's backed by the elite. This is an authoritarian brazenly seizing control of your government. It's crystal clear from the outside - in Australia we have state subsidised media organisation with a mandate to produce unbiased news and independent agencies enforcing that mandate, who are releasing documentaries about Trump's attempt to become a dictator. Surely you guys don't want to become an autocracy, right? What are you doing?
Vance is the man. This guy has it all together.
love that this is being talked about
Sacklers got sued. Changed the names of their company and kept on truckin.
Wuuuuu?
@ I take that back actually. Purdue Pharma still exists and still sells oxy and other pain killers. The Sacklers removed their name from about 20 universities buildings and scholarships. As a part of their bankruptcy settlement. Google AI is my source on this info. I watched the Dopesick show on Hulu and I thought it said they changed the name of the company after they lost their case. They earned 35 billion from OxyContin sales. And were sued for 8 billion. Also a google AI answer.
South Florida- Palm Beach County in particular was ground zero for pill mills in 04/05.
“People can’t even do cocaine anymore in this country” 😂😂😅
My cousin took a “pain pill” and died from a fentanyl overdose. Something has got to be done.
I am confused what the hell are you saying?
Another words, he was poisoned.
@ yeah that too
5:40 Luckily I was on my way out of the game right as Fentanyl hit my cities streets in quantity. There was this one time a few years later when I was sitting in the waiting room at my methadone clinic, and another patient mentioned how nice it was now that all the "idiots had quit showing up", and someone else immediately replied without even looking up from their phone "They didn't quit, they died." and I burst out laughing because of how brutally true that statement was. It was just too real. In the decade I was on Oxy, I knew like 3 people who OD'd, one of which was on purpose. By that few year point in the methadone clinic, like a dozen or more of my acquaintances had died to fentanyl.
Lost a family friend and my cousin within the last year and a half. The fact this daily death toll isn't being treated like the mass emergency it is would lead me to conclude it's intentional or at the very least beneficial for those in power.
Hate druggos
JD Vance is so genuine. He's been absolutely fantastic on these podcasts
These conversations need to be had.
Yes. A big difference I noticed btwn by oldest daughter starting high school & then my youngest daughter starting high school is sooo many of my youngest daughters friends are being raised by their grandparents. I’ve also noticed more single dads. & 99% of the time mom/ or both parents are out of the picture is due to drugs, stemming from the opioid epidemic. They are either dead, in jail or off on a bender. It’s crazy!
Theo you and JD are top notch. Enjoy your show.
Did any politicians receive kickbacks for creating pharmaceutical loop holes? Did the troops invade another country to protect opioid production?
The FDA did. One guy who took bribes. Bribes that opened the door for all of this.
they were invading to fight the terrorist government and they werent protecting the poppy fields they were guarding the villages as a whole.
Yep. Afghanistan... The year before 9/11 the Taliban outlawed the growing of opium poppies. And take a guess at what was absolutely necessary as a raw Ingredient in the production of all oxycodone, hydrocodone, morphine, codeine, Dilaudid....all the pills that they gave out like candy.. gives a whole new level to 9/11 was an inside job... Without that we would have had no cover story as to why we needed to invade Afghanistan. And guess what the first orders were for the ground troops? "Secure the poppy fields".
We are nothing but animals to these "people" we are their cattle. They are enslaving us all into fictional lives so as to best produce and consume resources to each other. While they set at the top skimming the highest achievements in quality our race can attain. Using for themselves. To reach a level of something like a God. And to become immortal and unstoppable. Having 100% control and data onto all. Our planet is now one giant concentration camp. A slaughter house, a play thing, an old toy quickly becoming boring... The tip on the top is a separate species. If not In form, surely in perception and function.
To all the family members of current/past addicts:
So sorry that you were so negatively affected by loved ones.
My best friend accidentally overdosed on pain pills.
I love ur mom and so glad she is ok.
The opening line to this will forever be ingrained in my mind. Thank you Theo Von!
I have a guess as to why the sachlers haven’t been investigated 🇮🇱
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Read the white plague articles.
thast the right way to spel it
@@gatsbygoodwood2575 Noticing? They're kind basically boast about it.
I lost two cousins to drugs. So sad…
A family friend and my cousin, within the last year and a half. Both situations truly heartbreaking.
You know podcasting humanizes everybody, I would never watch JD Vance on any mainstream media but here iam watching the entire interview and enjoying it! We need to get rid of mainstream media mafia!! They divide our country
The other side of this is when I was in nursing school in the 90's we were taught "pain is what the patient says it is" "you have to treat the patients pain" "pain is the 5th vital sign". We were even told about a lawsuit against a doctor and hospital because of not treating pain. That made doctors afraid to cut people off of drugs, nurses afraid to not give pain medication to people claiming of pain "10/10" while chatting on the phone, and hospitals relying on patient satisfaction for reimbursement. It was a perfect storm.
Came here to say this. I was nursing in the 90s and we had to justify to government entities why we DIDN'T give out pain meds and this was with children and toddlers also. When the opioid epidemic hit later on I was not surprised
Insane that the Sackler family was able to pay their way out of criminal liability for killing 500k people when a regular person would be locked up for life for killing ONE person
If anyone from rural appalachia ever visits or moves to NE america or anywhere above VA and WV you will get to see a deep vitriolic hatred for country folks. Every time i would open my mouth to talk to someone i would get treated and even asked, do you have sex with your sister, do you have indoor plumbing, call me dispariaging racist depraved names and labels. All based on simply something i had no control over which was where i was born. Also i dont even have a deep country accent but whether it was when i lived up there or i served in the army with many from Northeast ameroca and the further north the more they despised and loathed me YES EVEN IN THE ARMY and unlike if someone treated a black person unfairly cause they are black. I had nobody to defend me on my behalf. I say this to note why and how this happened. Most people from NE america worship and idolize money and material posessions and those who do look down on those who do not. Rural appalachia is the last of the christian nuclear family ties, honest hard working values. As i said i served in the army andni was considered a weirdo due to my christian and family values. This is why i believe the rich elitist targeted my communitiy intentionally
Rich men North of Richmond
@@_TMac_13_916_thats exactly where I would draw that line forsure. There's a serious elitist and wannabe elitist problem where people see themselves as better than just becauss of something as irrelevant as where you are born? I get some people are elite at things compared to others but where I have the issue is the bullshit elitist who see themselves as elitist becayss of shit they own or their bank account or their proffesional status etc. I hate to break it to anyone but my local school janitor and plumber is way more elite in my mind than any pro athlete or politician
@@OG-Ghost33 Amen. Thank you for your service. 🇺🇸
@@_TMac_13_916_ thank you it was and is the greatest honor of my life
I live in wv and I also believe it was politically motivated, like a slow self fulfilling genocide, the same for the food quality. Everybody's grandaddy was slim and fit and now the babies are born with diabetes. For all their suffering still the most humble and kind people on the planet. Go Trump.
Ahh yes from Brooklyn.
You got to address the demand. We been addressing the supply since the Regan administration. That's called the war on drugs. Criminalization of addiction doesn't seem to work. We have to get better at addressing the demand through making our population healthier and teaching children emotional regulation.
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It’s nothing more than a revolving door.
Marijuana buds are not laced with fentanyl. Even if they were, the fentanyl chemical would be destroyed when the weed gets burned. You need to vaporize fent at a certain temperature, hence why addicts use foil and heat it slightly to vaporize instead of burn it. Some cannabis extracts can be laced, however, since they are vaporized instead of combusted.
I appreciate his honesty about human nature & doesnt condemn those who have tried drugs. It's the balance between condemnation & enabling that matters.
Happened to my son in law 6 months ago..... I forced him and my daughter into rehab... Then he got out and used ... And that one time since his tolerance was brand new, killed him...
I’m sorry for your loss
@calemcconnell7735 Thank you. It means a lot. Please keep my oldest daughter in your prayers tho ... Because she's still fighting this battle 🙏.. God bless.
im sorry for your loss. your son in law was a victim of the awful people that coordinate the sale of fentanly every day. its such a shame
How awful
Stay the course Theo you will end up being one of the most important podcasters in the next 20 years.Stay focused!
He mentions “overprescribed” a lot… wouldn’t it make sense to investigate the drs doing the prescribing…? Manufacturers don’t put them in people’s hands…
Multiple people and groups are responsible for it
From what I've heard doctors are pressured to prescribe in that way
Doctors are pressured and incentived to prescribe certain medications from pharmaceutical representatives.
It's why in the early 2000's every child suddenly had add & adhd and were being mass prescribed pills, instead of treating the actual problem 😂
They were told that oxy was not addictive.
When oxycontin came out, it was championed as a non-addictive and safer alternative to stronger opioid pain killers. Some doctors were likely being paid to prescribe the drug over other options. It's ultimately not their fault, rather the people who lied about oxy.
Fast forward 10 years, millions of people in pain are addicted to opioids and need a stronger medicine. Most continue with doctor provided care, however due to the crisis doctors are now afraid to prescribe strong opioids regardless of how much suffering their patient is in.
The ones who didn't continue with doctor treatment began turning to street pills and heroin. Once they were hooked to heroin, the cartels began slowly putting more fentanyl in the heroin to cut costs and give a better products. Many died from the fent, but the ones who developed a high tolerance to heroin were able to use fentanyl relatively safely.
At this point, if you are not addicted to opioids, there's no point in trying street opioids because chances are it'll just kill you from how potent it is.
The worst part of all this isn't the addicts dying, it's the regular people who are in chronic pain that need these stronger opioids to have any resemblance of a functional life. However, these patients are skipping doses or doubling up in order to get the relief they desperately need. Doctors have a plethora of options with opioids, all varying in strength and danger, yet they rarely prescribe anything more than oxycontin with tylenol. These oxy's are also usually the minimum dosage. It's pure insanity that genuinely sick people in massive pain cannot get these miraculous pain killers, yet the people who are sick with addiction are able to easily walk down the street and buy fentanyl for 5 bucks, get rescued by EMT's, and then dumped back out into the street to do it again.
What a good question that i've been asking for decades
Oxy ruined my 20s luckily I’ve got past that but I’m still angry how easy it use to be to get.
Move on buddy
Please let’s not forget that there are people that legitimately need pain relievers!!! My dad had a back surgery that required 85 staples to close up!! The surgeon sent him home with Tylenol!!!! It was not sufficient and he SUFFERED!!!
He was in his late 50’s - a veteran of Vietnam- a successful businessman… not inclined to abusing drugs.
there wasnt a criminal investigation on it because they claimed their earnings and payed their taxes on selling what they did.
Love how JD bushed off that they are members of the tribe.
My daughter had surgery when she was in 8th grade , she got prescriptions for 90 Percocet and 90 oxycontin. Didn't get either filled. She just wanted Motrin and Tylenol. Used ice also.
I had surgery in 09 n got the same prescription for multiple refills n i became an addict, im clean now. You got a smart daughter
*Checks the Early Life*
((Every. Single. Time.))
I was an interpreter and most of my jobs happened to be pain clinics. I saw the same people in the waiting rooms morning, noon, and afternoons.....not my clients though. I realized real fast how bad it was back in the day
Gloss over the fact that the sacklers are Eastern European Jewish oligarchs eh? I don’t know if it means anything but I know it doesn’t mean nothing.
Vance needs to please aipac
have to be careful bc if you make it a religious or racial issue then their bought media attacks and spreads misinfo about you - then disabling your power to do anything about their evil. Better to tackle the issue, make them pay for their crimes, greed, and evil, and the families directly responsible but keep certain religious/racial stuff out of it.
It actually means nothing, Adolf. Lots of tycoons of all religions exploit people.
They were poor when they came from Poland
The mainstream media will see who this guy is over the next 4 years. And I predict he will be the next POTUS. Thank you Theo for showing us this man and how normal he is.
100,000 americans overdosing every year
We shall overcome 🙏.
Every. Single. Time.
*Early life / background*
I'm seeing a familiar pattern here....
My story is very similiar to vances, but at a different time period (im younger). And hes totally right, whats on the street now is so bad. I lost my mother to it.
I mean.. no one wants to take accountability or responsibility. We are all to blame really.
Consumer capitalism has profit driven incentive to create / fill a market.
The problem is America doesn’t want to fix problems unless it makes them money..
Yes! The wall needs to go back up. So, glad Vance will be our VP.
Genuine question here because I 100% agree with JD Vance’s position here - if republicans are the party of less government intervention in both the market and healthcare, how are they the party best suitable to prevent stuff like this from happening and folks being held accountable?
Seems to me that he does believe that the govt plays a role in circumstances such as this where they should intervene
Look at how they shut down abortions across the country.
@Marcaviana lot of people do not act with their best interests in mind. So many people are not only incapable of thinking long-term, but they even struggle making sound short-term decisions (think about instant vs. delayed gratification).
While there are definitely problems with a more robust government, it is definitely a weird/outdated assumption that private individuals do what’s objectively best for themselves and the people around them. This hasn’t been true for many, many years.
Did you listen to the part about fentanyl mainly getting here through the Mexican border? That part. Close the border, tougher on crime
@Marcavian That's only true if you're totally naive. No regulations means people like the Sacklers sell their stuff on the street, no doctor needed. Things would NOT be better.
JD Vance will do as he's told!
Early life still undefeated
Excellent podcast. Thank you Theo Von for showing people who we really have as a Vice President. Someone who is shining light on the opioid epidemic and is KNOWLEDGEABLE. Thank you!!!!!
Did he really say Costco lmaooooo
I asked this exact same question of somebody claiming Ross Ulbricht was a drug dealer and deserved to be in prison. Still haven't gotten an answer 🤷♂️
I get how people have issues with drugs. Everyone has their vice, vices, subset of vices or God only knows how many demons haunt people, but we also can’t forget the pain management’s patients that actually use their medication as needed, when needed ect. There is no need for drs to be criminally charged for prescribing pain medication to a patient in agonizing pain and to be expected for the foreseeable future. Drs should not be afraid. Not everyone has the same experience with pain medication or even associates it with drug use.
Praying for God's Holy Covering on Theo ❤
JD Vance is what the Democrats and their controlled media consider weird. He seems pretty f**king normal to me. I hope people watched this interview.
I'm not a Democrat as I'm not an American, but being considered "normal" during 15 minutes of an interview isn't exactly a high bar either! Although I appreciate him more in this setting and on this subject, in many speeches Vance and his running mate clearly say things that should never -- ever -- be normalised! And this interview in no way changes that...
@@alexgrey5933 do you have any examples?
@@alexgrey5933 The phony, too pure to be corrupt, mask of self righteousness that politicians have grown accustomed to wearing, is what should have never been normalized.
He seems like a pretty down to earth and relatable person.
I've gotta be honest- I was never a big JD Vance fan. I didn't know a lot about him, but he seemed kind of strange, in the coverage I had seen of him... until listening to this entire video. This conversation really humanized him for me. Many thanks to Theo, for profiling him. 🤟☺️