I can’t help but agree. Their pricing is insulting, I’d like to see some push back from more knife people. Since the introduction to the $540 narrows I vowed never to buy a Benchmade again.
I said I wasn't going to buy anymore after the autocrat. I actually love mine , but 440$ for an otf with s30v. That cost more than most of the other American made otf's . But when the super freak came out it was 200$ for m4 and g10. Usually Benchmade treats g10 like gold. Adds 100$
I just picked up one of these at a local shop for a blade swap, put this blade in my black bailout scales. They were blowing their knives out, and I picked up the 2301 for $160 OTD. I do agree though, Benchmades prices have gone way to far out. With what I paid for the 2301, you can see what Benchmade is charging their dealers, cause I guarantee the place I picked up mine didn't take a loss on it.
Yes its incredibly light. I understand your affection for a chunky knife, feels like more for the money I get it. Welcome to 2024 with this tech. I have tested this knife with the green aluminum handle, black hardware m4 partial serrated blade and lanyard carbide tip (which will break car glass if needed). Please note the lanyard hole is removable with options. I think you should have mentioned that while you slamed it down. IMHO the test knife your showing is butt ugly. I have tested this knife. I can pry master links off motorcycles and cut rope all day. M4 has exceed my expectations. The version I tested was $270 dollars 6 mos ago and worth every penny. Im loving the patina its very slowly getting, real nice. I'm sure it will out live me even with hard use.
I like the bailout it's like a updated bugout I'm just having a hard time with the butterfly tax the prices on benchmade are getting ridiculous it hurts me to say because I'm a fan boy
I loved the od green bailout but for €290 euros I’ve did sent it back. Not worth €290 euros. Sad because with a normal price I would have bought it for sure.
My bailout, green handle gray coated m4 blade, lives in its box. Though I’ve tried to like it, I just don’t. It leaves me questioning how so many reviewers raved about it when it hit the market. The handle is too thin, the glass breaker is stupid and in pocket wants to snag me when reaching past it. Lastly, the tanto tip was ground unequally.
I think a lot of reviewers don't like crapping on such a prominent knife company. I could be wrong. Also probably why nearly zero companies send me review samples lol! I have been critical of Benchmade in the past especially certain models, but I respect the company and what they have done for the knife industry. Still, it's not a great model to me.
Tip-down always offers faster deployment unless it's a very small knife. I agree with the consensus that this model and many Benchmades are way over-priced, but fortunately there's the Presidio II, which is superb and much more reasonably priced.
@@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 The Presidio II is such a tough but lightweight design that it would be nice to see CPM 3V or Magnacut variants of it.
Do you mean tip up? I feel like when the tip is facing up while it's in your pocket, then when you pull it out it's already in your hand the right way ready to open.
BM and a lot of other companies will Eventually with out a doubt and all there share holders pulling the greedy string will Price them selves out of the market in time. Because when things go up in price you all know they never ever come back down to a reasonable dollar amount because these companies don’t want to have the greedy egg on there face if they were force to reduce there prices when the proverbial bottom goes out of the tube. I do have older BM knives when they were priced that the average working guy could afford at the time because let’s face it a knife isn’t a necessity for 98% of people it’s just something to waste money on. Am i right because it looks cool and I need a 300.00 dollar box cutter.
Benchmade makes a great product but they are too proud with the pricing, I recently bought a mini griptillian and a bugout elite but I only bought them from a military discount site otherwise I wouldn’t of paid the full price no freakn way…
I dont love Benchmade warranty. I want a knife company like protech who sent me q couple xtra springs when I was having problems with really cold wet weather wearing out the spring faster than normal. I know not allot of companies will do that, but for something simple why not. Like somehow if a screw has to come out ,it must need a professional.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
You know...I just don't like it. Looks cool with the scaling, but as I am holding the one I just got at REI it doesn't feel like it's worth the $275.00 price. I feel the Bugout is better in comparison.
If one has money to burn, then by all means buy Benchmade directly from Benchmade at MSRP. They love it and they make a tremendous profit from direct to the consumer sales. Benchmade sells their knives to dealers for 50% of MSRP.........so that titanium handled bailout that sells for $600.00 MSRP , a dealer pays half that. Dealers are not allowed to advertise their knives for any less than 10% off MSRP. Thats called MAP ( minimum advertised price ) If you let your dealer know you are fully aware of Benchmades pricing , one can get an extremely good deal on one of their knives, especially if its a model that isnt the most popular. I have quite a few Benchmades, and I usually get 30 to 35% off MSRP. If a dealer wont negotiate with me on price, I just walk and find one that will. We, as the consumer, have the ultimate say so as to how much we are willing to spend. IMHO, in todays economy, everything is negotiable.
This knife design does nothing for me, the tanto, the orange and blue color, the price. Only thing i like is the axis lock but its on other better knives.
I am just not interested in Benchmade knives at the moment. They are good knives, so that might change. They just don't seem to be paying attention to the community in general. They have their customers that will continue to buy the products so I can understand why they don't feel the need to pay attention to others. I don't need them, and there are plenty of knives out there that I want to buy. No problem. 😆
The one thing I don't get is why people are so triggered by BM's high prices. Yeah some of their knives are priced pretty high. But nobody has a gun to their head being forced to pay those prices. Why spend so much energy being angry about it? Just move along. That criticism isn't aimed at you, but everybody else who's on that Benchmade hate bandwagon that will no doubt show up here to cheerlead your opinions. And you're right, we're all entitled to them. Just seems silly that some people get so fired up about it. A knife is worth what someone is willing to pay. People are making their own decisions about what to do with their own money when they choose to buy a Benchmade, full price or otherwise. To your credit, at least you're not attempting to tell people what to do with their own damn money 😁 But it's not just inflation. It's the economics of running a large company that doesn't subsidize any production costs with overseas knife OEM's and paying a lot of employees (BM employs 380 people) 'living wages', benefits, and probably retirement. Stack that with what I am assuming are some pretty high costs of doing business in woke Oregon with all kinds of legislated corporate taxes and fees and forced high minimum wages. They get my respect for making everything in the USA, though. I won't spend $600 on a Bailout, but I bet I could score one off the secondary for a really good price in a few months 😄 Cheers bro! 😎🤘
Totally agree with you bro, and didn't think about the cost of manufacturing in Oregon, that makes total sense! All three west coast states are being dragged down by there own red take bullsh#t! Thanks for watching and I always enjoy your comments! (Seriously!)
@@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 💯my man. And I always enjoy your content 😄I guess it just kinda bewilders me that people in a community that supposedly celebrates all things knives want to see the downfall of one of the few 100% USA-made knife manufacturers. I must be too much of a glass-half-full kinda guy 😅But you're right, that lanyard slot is stupid lol. If I ever get a Bailout, that is gone right away!
It looks good but yeah their prices are getting crazy. Great review 👍
Damn Benchmade is priced out of reach now for the average Joseph! WTF
Just picked mine up for $100 yesterday, brand new, same color
I really like mine, but I got it on sale for 175$ last month! I like Benchmade but I only buy them on sale!
I can’t help but agree. Their pricing is insulting, I’d like to see some push back from more knife people. Since the introduction to the $540 narrows I vowed never to buy a Benchmade again.
I'll only buy used discontinued models now.
I said I wasn't going to buy anymore after the autocrat. I actually love mine , but 440$ for an otf with s30v. That cost more than most of the other American made otf's . But when the super freak came out it was 200$ for m4 and g10. Usually Benchmade treats g10 like gold. Adds 100$
Agree with the price issue. Bought a Bugout and it came to $190. It is at best a $90 knife......
The Griptilian used to be about 90 and the Bugout looks to be cheaper to manufacture.
Yeah, I can’t afford Benchmade. Not saying I wouldn’t spend that much on a knife. I wouldn’t spend that much on THAT knife.
I just picked up one of these at a local shop for a blade swap, put this blade in my black bailout scales. They were blowing their knives out, and I picked up the 2301 for $160 OTD. I do agree though, Benchmades prices have gone way to far out. With what I paid for the 2301, you can see what Benchmade is charging their dealers, cause I guarantee the place I picked up mine didn't take a loss on it.
Benchmades pricing to dealers is 50% of the MSRP.
Ya man that's what turned me off from getting a Benchmade, there prices,that's why I prefer spyderco
TBF they are roughly the same price now
Yes its incredibly light. I understand your affection for a chunky knife, feels like more for the money I get it. Welcome to 2024 with this tech. I have tested this knife with the green aluminum handle, black hardware m4 partial serrated blade and lanyard carbide tip (which will break car glass if needed). Please note the lanyard hole is removable with options. I think you should have mentioned that while you slamed it down. IMHO the test knife your showing is butt ugly. I have tested this knife. I can pry master links off motorcycles and cut rope all day. M4 has exceed my expectations. The version I tested was $270 dollars 6 mos ago and worth every penny. Im loving the patina its very slowly getting, real nice. I'm sure it will out live me even with hard use.
Yea I definitely am a fan of m4!
I like the bailout it's like a updated bugout I'm just having a hard time with the butterfly tax the prices on benchmade are getting ridiculous it hurts me to say because I'm a fan boy
I loved the od green bailout but for €290 euros I’ve did sent it back. Not worth €290 euros. Sad because with a normal price I would have bought it for sure.
My bailout, green handle gray coated m4 blade, lives in its box. Though I’ve tried to like it, I just don’t. It leaves me questioning how so many reviewers raved about it when it hit the market. The handle is too thin, the glass breaker is stupid and in pocket wants to snag me when reaching past it. Lastly, the tanto tip was ground unequally.
I think a lot of reviewers don't like crapping on such a prominent knife company. I could be wrong. Also probably why nearly zero companies send me review samples lol!
I have been critical of Benchmade in the past especially certain models, but I respect the company and what they have done for the knife industry. Still, it's not a great model to me.
Tip-down always offers faster deployment unless it's a very small knife. I agree with the consensus that this model and many Benchmades are way over-priced, but fortunately there's the Presidio II, which is superb and much more reasonably priced.
I like the Presidio as well! Underated
@@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 The Presidio II is such a tough but lightweight design that it would be nice to see CPM 3V or Magnacut variants of it.
Do you mean tip up? I feel like when the tip is facing up while it's in your pocket, then when you pull it out it's already in your hand the right way ready to open.
BM and a lot of other companies will Eventually with out a doubt and all there share holders pulling the greedy string will Price them selves out of the market in time. Because when things go up in price you all know they never ever come back down to a reasonable dollar amount because these companies don’t want to have the greedy egg on there face if they were force to reduce there prices when the proverbial bottom goes out of the tube. I do have older BM knives when they were priced that the average working guy could afford at the time because let’s face it a knife isn’t a necessity for 98% of people it’s just something to waste money on. Am i right because it looks cool and I need a 300.00 dollar box cutter.
Really enjoying your videos and look forward to watching more!
That's another one i want but i don't have Benchmade moneys. 👍🏻 Nice video and thank you for the awesome content as always
Benchmade makes a great product but they are too proud with the pricing, I recently bought a mini griptillian and a bugout elite but I only bought them from a military discount site otherwise I wouldn’t of paid the full price no freakn way…
Bro I am already waiting for the Dalibor video 😁
I know I'm dying to do one but I want to spend a little time with it first!
I dont love Benchmade warranty. I want a knife company like protech who sent me q couple xtra springs when I was having problems with really cold wet weather wearing out the spring faster than normal. I know not allot of companies will do that, but for something simple why not. Like somehow if a screw has to come out ,it must need a professional.🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
You know...I just don't like it. Looks cool with the scaling, but as I am holding the one I just got at REI it doesn't feel like it's worth the $275.00 price. I feel the Bugout is better in comparison.
Good review, thanks for sharing, God bless !
Man I love my bugout but $171 is cheap for benchmade but not alot there to justify that price
They can keep their insane priced knives. There are too many good knives out there for a fraction of the price.
Try living in Canada, you think your prices for Benchmade’s are expensive, Canadian prices are robbery 😅
I bet!
If one has money to burn, then by all means buy Benchmade directly from Benchmade at MSRP. They love it and they make a tremendous profit from direct to the consumer sales. Benchmade sells their knives to dealers for 50% of MSRP.........so that titanium handled bailout that sells for $600.00 MSRP , a dealer pays half that. Dealers are not allowed to advertise their knives for any less than 10% off MSRP. Thats called MAP ( minimum advertised price )
If you let your dealer know you are fully aware of Benchmades pricing , one can get an extremely good deal on one of their knives, especially if its a model that isnt the most popular.
I have quite a few Benchmades, and I usually get 30 to 35% off MSRP. If a dealer wont negotiate with me on price, I just walk and find one that will.
We, as the consumer, have the ultimate say so as to how much we are willing to spend. IMHO, in todays economy, everything is negotiable.
Thanks for video 📹 👍
Rediculous. thinks I will just buy a 3.5 inch akifusa and know I got the best metal money can buy and make a sheath.
This knife design does nothing for me, the tanto, the orange and blue color, the price. Only thing i like is the axis lock but its on other better knives.
I never been crazy about that blade shape but if I were to buy one it would probably be bailout.
Will, that's a terrible take
I snagged one for $189. Still overpriced.
Much better price tho!
I am just not interested in Benchmade knives at the moment. They are good knives, so that might change. They just don't seem to be paying attention to the community in general. They have their customers that will continue to buy the products so I can understand why they don't feel the need to pay attention to others. I don't need them, and there are plenty of knives out there that I want to buy. No problem. 😆
Wow lanyard slot is main reason I got it. Jesus is coming back btw
The one thing I don't get is why people are so triggered by BM's high prices. Yeah some of their knives are priced pretty high. But nobody has a gun to their head being forced to pay those prices. Why spend so much energy being angry about it? Just move along. That criticism isn't aimed at you, but everybody else who's on that Benchmade hate bandwagon that will no doubt show up here to cheerlead your opinions. And you're right, we're all entitled to them. Just seems silly that some people get so fired up about it. A knife is worth what someone is willing to pay. People are making their own decisions about what to do with their own money when they choose to buy a Benchmade, full price or otherwise. To your credit, at least you're not attempting to tell people what to do with their own damn money 😁
But it's not just inflation. It's the economics of running a large company that doesn't subsidize any production costs with overseas knife OEM's and paying a lot of employees (BM employs 380 people) 'living wages', benefits, and probably retirement. Stack that with what I am assuming are some pretty high costs of doing business in woke Oregon with all kinds of legislated corporate taxes and fees and forced high minimum wages.
They get my respect for making everything in the USA, though. I won't spend $600 on a Bailout, but I bet I could score one off the secondary for a really good price in a few months 😄 Cheers bro! 😎🤘
Totally agree with you bro, and didn't think about the cost of manufacturing in Oregon, that makes total sense! All three west coast states are being dragged down by there own red take bullsh#t! Thanks for watching and I always enjoy your comments! (Seriously!)
@@nicholasedwardbehindtheedg2343 💯my man. And I always enjoy your content 😄I guess it just kinda bewilders me that people in a community that supposedly celebrates all things knives want to see the downfall of one of the few 100% USA-made knife manufacturers. I must be too much of a glass-half-full kinda guy 😅But you're right, that lanyard slot is stupid lol. If I ever get a Bailout, that is gone right away!
Why are their price increases higher than anyone else? Unjustified.
I won't buy anything but Benchmade