Bugout is over priced and over estimated. It’s a good knife but not of that price. I just don’t see the value here. Spyderco is also expensive but i can see the effort on ergonomics and good heat treatment on some steels and i could back it up upon my experiences using some of their models. I just don’t see it on the bugout. The other thing is that 95% of people who actually need and use a knife in their daily life often have a cheap knife from what I’ve noticed and it’s usually beat up pretty badly. They don’t seem to care that much for bling bling. My grandpa my father and other blue collar or military people I’ve seen usually edc slip joint folders or fiftyish dollar knives. And when i say use a knife is literally using it from the food prep to jobside ,farm ,outdoor or even scraping the calluses from their palms all with that one knife.The edc community is the target group of the bling knives like bugout and many more. Sad reality is that those people who carry the fancy steels and knives are using them for envelope or box opening. I don’t judge them bad and it’s their right to spend their hard earned money however they please, but for me it’s difficult to comprehend some things like spending 200-800 dollars on a knife , which is just a cutting /slicing tool and also have the fear of losing it. There is a 1% though that carries expensive knives and uses them like a frontier would back in those times. But it’s just one out of a hundred people. Sorry for the long sheet
Well I'll admit it. I've been using a BM clone for about 2 years and I've had no problem with it and it did what I needed it to do. That's less than $25. Sorry but it only makes sense to me. I've been Sharpening knives for 45 years so I have no problem with hitting my knife a couple licks a week on a smooth stone or strap. Save what $150 to sharpen 1 every once in a while? No Brainerd
$25? I only paid $18 including postage for mine. LOL Great little knife been using it for over a year now. I do have an original Benchmade, it's nice but the price is insane.
I’ve carried mine for 5 years now I think, I think you make a good point where it’s not a perfect knife for the outdoors. EDC it’s perfect, I have done light batoning with it and it did okay. Super sharp and light weight. Got it for $130 in 2018 and it’s been a great buy
Years ago I purchased a couple of basic Bugouts for $85 each and have enjoyed watching their price soar. Wish my stock portfolio increased commensurately. Thanks for your overview.
I also have the aluminum Bugout with the M390 blade and it’s my favorite EDC knife. When I’m going backpacking, I replace it with a Benchmade mini Crooked River and a Bushcrafter fixed blade. If I’m going hunting, then the bushcrafter is replaced by the Saddle Mountain Skinner or a Buck 119.
That's what so stupid to me, if its not a pure aesthetic non-user, a $135 knife better be for more than heavy use. I have several knives half that price that I can beat the hell out of (and have) for forever and be fine. Shouldn't be able to easily snap the handle/liners by hand of even a +$50 knife
@wishonafish yeah. It's not a budget knife. But Its great for what it is. You won't find anything lighter and thinner in such good steel. Honestly, though, a year later and I barely carry it. I'm into sheepsfoot blades now. Far more useful.
@Andrew-un8tx I don't blame people for owning them, I just thinks its god awful value personally, but would be great imo around 1/3 the price. even tho I still wouldnt never own one cause tbh, ever since I saw it snapped in half by hand force, I just have a strong dislike for it lol
I love the bugout so much, i now own 6 of them, including the carbon fiber mini. Great little knives, very well rounded for my purposes. Yea, the prices are ridiculous... but id much rather my money be going to American tables, feeding American families.
@CDXRK totally my motivation behind buying their knives.. you got me... had i known about them assisting in the destruction of confiscated firearms, i probably would have never bought their knives... im not totally tuned in with all the goings ons within the gun community... but feel free to tar and feather me anyway...
@@triple9finestacker631 you have been featherd! Nah tbh I'm not even from the country that it applies too. It's just a fact people in America tend to care about so I thought id mention it in a semi satirical way. Your money from your hardwork who am I to say what you spend it on, But it's something to consider especially given today's pricing strategies
@@CDXRK if you bothered to actually read what happened, you might not have made that comment. The Oregon City PD were required by law as part of policy to destroy those firearms. Benchmade gladly assisted them when they asked. They fully support the police community and 2A rights.
S30v is still an amazing steel. Steel snobs are a thorn in the side of the edc community. Half of them don't even use a steel to its full potential so they can't even talk. It's a status quo more than anything. A buddy of mine who I do lives with on IG have put the OG ranger green bugout through its paces and it holds up with all the best.
Agreed. I hate the EDC community, it’s now all about aesthetics instead of what real EDC OGs intended it for…..functionality. People like Taylor have ruined the community making it all about fashion…..the posers like him are easy to spot.
Always found that so annoying, like 98% of the time they are opening boxes, when I pick knife steel I'm concerned about all the corrosive acids and salts I'm around and daily heavy work
It's true and you're right. I bought a s110v pm2 and I use it for diy renos but even that I feel is not the environment for this knife so I use a Milwaukee fastback and a ganzo instead
The Spyderco Manix 2 lightweight is a much better knife for what you describe and it is cheaper. It's a bit heavier at 3oz, but its a much more capable and comfortable knife.
Isn’t the Manix 2 lightweight $180? That’s the exact same price as a Bugout. I have a Manix 2 and a Bugout, and I wouldn’t say one is really better than the other. It all depends on what is more comfortable in your hand. For me the Bugout feels better, but the Manix 2 is an excellent knife, obviously. Very comparable tools.
@@Scientist_Salarian , you can get one in CTS BD1N for about $125, and from my experience, it falls somewhere between 154cm and S30v. While it doesn't hold an edge as long, it is less prone to chipping than S30V but also more rust resistant and holds an edge longer than 154CM. I am a bit biased when it comes to the Manix2 as I own several and it's 1 of my most carried knives. But I can admit it's one of those "you either love it or hate it" knives.
@8:49 you need to look at this on a percentage increase basis. The Spyderco is up 40% (175/125), the CRKT is up 60% (40/25) and the Bugout is up the least at 33% (180/135). Either way, I do agree that the prices are getting insane.
I love my multiple Bugouts and mini-Bugouts, but Benchmade prices have grown ridiculously. I then discovered how affordable and ergonomic Spyderco knives are and have switched to buying Spyderco knives almost exclusively. Exotic knife steels don’t interest me!
Ive had the Bugout Mini with Ti scales on it for years daily used. Absolutly love it. In stock plastic form all I remember was being super unhappy. Rockscale Design has been rocked for years now :)
The only issue is if your bearing down on it like woodcarving. I bring bigger knives to screw around with but for backpacking or day to day use It’s perfect. Axis locks kinda suck since you have to disassemble to get blood/fat out after processing game but for the weight it’s pretty tempting to make do if backpacking. The blade is perfect for camp food prep and skinning/boning out. The price is ridiculous, the scales feel cheap the thin lite blade makes the action isn’t as good as the griptilian the omega springs can break (both mine did swapped with thicker aftermarket) the blade flexes/rocks side to side but it still ended my search for the perfect pocket knife. It’s pretty flawed but good enough. Nothing puts as capable a blade in your pocket without adding weight and bulk.
@@gregs7519Maybe so, but the Bugout costs more than five times as much as the Mini Praxis. I’m sure it’s a better knife, but is it five times as good? If my Mini Praxis rusts, and I can’t figure out how to remove the rust, I’ll just buy another one. For the cost of a single Bugout, I can replace my Mini Praxis every five years for a couple of decades.
the best comparison (and also usa made) is the hogue deka, you get better fit'n'finish and even magnacut on the deka for less bucks. seriously, the only thing that keeps benchmade alive is their reputation from early days.
I have the aluminum and the carbon bug out. Love them both. Rest of my knives are lonely. I think I like the feel of the aluminum one better in my hand. I love the carbon carry in my light weight pants but the handle feel isn’t perfect like the aluminum. The black blade on the aluminum contrasts nicely thus the cool factor! Both damn sharp and one or the other is used every day.
If you don't care about not having an Axis lock then you should consider the Cold Steel American Lawman. It's an awesome light weight knife that can take more punishment and at less the price.
I love my Bugout to death for EDC. The problem is that reviewers try to assign tasks to it that it’s clearly not meant for. If you need a tactical knife, get a proper tactical knife. If you need a hunting knife, get a true hunting knife. If you only need something to open the occasional Amazon box, don’t spend $200. But if you need an amazingly capable knife for everyday, blue-collar or tradesman use (like me) the Bugout is incredible. Don’t use the wrong tool for the job, then complain it isn’t adequate.
I love S30V steel, i have the Benchmade Presidio II with black aluminum scales, it’s 12 years old and functions perfectly. The Bugout is the worst knife Benchmade makes IMO. I’ll take a stainless steel Opinel #8 over a Bugout any day of the week, or a large Case XX Sodbuster in stainless.😎
I edc the benchmade griptilian. Its been a beautiful choice for me and worth every penny. To be honest my best man gave it to me as a nice gift on my wedding day, but they still only run about 150$ to 200$ Canadian. It’s perfect size for edc, staying sharp af and handle n action are rugged. I enjoy it and honestly will purchase another when the time is right.
I own a bugout with Micarta scales from flytanium and I love it! But I completely agree with you, the prices are now far to high. Especially here in Germany with taxes and shipping…😢
Semper Fi brother! I have a lot of customs, mid tech's and some old Benchmades such as the 710. I ended up buying a Bugout for long multi day backpacking trips where every ounce counts. I got the Benchmade but didn't like the Grivory material since it felt like cheap injection molded plastic. I ended up buying a Flytanium burlap micarta and it made a good knife great.
I found the Freek has a thicker handle making it more comfortable to use over longer period of time....but its more expensive so you have to take that into consideration as well.
Very similar journey, lol. Had the non-automatic version of that Gerber, and loved that big beast, but needed something more lightweight. Recently got into Civivi, which I like a lot, and grabbed a few of the Ozark trails for some beater knives. I generally go for budget options, but have been trying to level up the collection a little.
I gave you your thousandth like (yup, I'm proud of it) because frankly this video is very well done and you present things honestly all in a very cool setting. Keep up the good work! (personally I went with a Lil'native, but nothing says that I wouldn't take a bugout just for my collection and occasional uses).
The Bugout seems to be rather popular for some reason. I have ordered the Benchmade Vector 495 a few months ago and i find the handle to be beefy enough to feel pretty comfortable even for a longer time of usage. But here in Germany I had to pay around 260 Euros for that thing brand new. Anyway, I am pleased with it so far and I love the look of it as well. The fact that it is an assisted flipper which basically means that I can only close it by using two hands unless I press the back of the blade against my thigh does not bother me too much. Anyway, thanks for that very informative video and greetings from Germany.
I have a north fork folder, full liner, same steel, similar price. I prefer it over the bugout for strength (partial liner on the bugout). Weight saving isn’t worth the strength sacrifice to me. I love it for hunting, skinned 3 deer before it needed to be tuned up. can you get other brands with similar specs cheaper, probably. You can probably get a civivi that’s very close for half the price. I like the warranty on benchmade, i like their sharpening program, made in the USA VS China. but do what you like.
Thank you. Great review. I like the fact that you take many factors on choosing the knife...or not. Been sitting on the fence on the Bugout for a while now. Heard a lot of the good, bad and ugly about them. I only usually cut tape and boxes, but I still want something with a little more heft to it. Possibly a Ritter RSK MK1-G2. Once again, great review and thank you.
I carry a Mini Griptillian for EDC and I just got a Mini Bugout clone to see if I would like it (and for places I don't want to lose an expensive knife). It's 20$, virtually identical to the real thing, with the exception of the steel probably. The weight is awesome, I was blown away at how light it is - I had to weigh it and make sure it was even correct! I think I like the Mini Grip better. The ergonomics are so much better for me and it feels much more solid, safer, the action might be better (I don't know for sure since it's a clone). I do see lots of positives though, for example if I'm just out for a walk in like gym shorts or wearing sweatpants, light stuff where a knife feels bulky. Maybe I would like the full size Bugout more. Price wise it is way too expensive. I wouldn't buy it, or the Mini Grip for the price it's listed. $100 or less, sure.
If you like the mini-bugout, check out the Vosteed Mini-Psyop. Outstanding slicey blade comparable to the mini-bugout with better materials, Elmax and Micarta. BTW, that shot of the knife on the record player was really cool!
I'm not too interested in Benchmade, I EDC a PM 2 but I just wanted to say you just need to try adding a fixed blade to your kit. I'd recommend any Mora, but the Kansbol is a great all arounder.
I wanted to get at least one benchmade knife but I finally decided on the 940 after seeing all these videos on the bugout (my other option). It’s cool, and i really love the lightweight aspect, but for that price you’re just not getting a whole lot. Whereas the 940 is apparently a tried and true edc design for 2 decades now!
Is it normal that they are a little stiff and locksticky at the beginning? Just bought my first one (ranger green). The osbourne I have is super smooth but I got this 2nd hand.
Very normal on production knives. Give it time to break in. If it doesn't break in after a few weeks, then adjust the pivot until you get desired action with no blade play. Secure with loctite.
I bought my first real switchblade when i was 25ish. It was cold steel tuff lite fde. I carried that for a year or two and then police confiscated it😅 Went few years without one, then i bought cold steel m voyager and budget Kershaw auto. That budget one was better. I like my folding knives light, they cannot weigh over 75 grams/2 ounces. Then i bought few quality spydercos and promised myself those were enough for the rest of my life... Now i got few more spydercos, few Kabars, one crkt, Kershaw Leek, couple different throwing knives, several fixed blades, 3x sak knives, one bugout and mini coming in that i ordered yesterday😂
I miss the Benchmade of the 90s and early 2000, with all the amazing designs and locking systems. I get that the AXIS lock has become their bread and butter. But I just think they have become a little bit complacent when it comes to their folders. Outside the Anthem they are all pretty much regular AXIS locks. And it doesn't seem like they are working on innovating on the Axis lock (making it adjustable, stronger and more reliable spring materials, etc). And the original hardware is just bad. Their warranty is great or at least was great a few years ago, but for people living outside the States it's $60-70 to ship it insured. I loved their knives since I was a little kid, but lately I just think it would be nice to see something different, whether it is a Liner Lock, a back lock, or just the variety of locks and designs they had back in the day.
Good video and breakdown as usual. I love my Bugout... well all of them. It's probably my EDC about 90% of the time and it goes with me on hikes too, but usually for smaller tasks as I will usually bring something beefier with me on major adventures such as an ESEE 4 or 5. Haven't had any issues with it, even with dirt, mud, sand, etc. Easy to sharpen. Love that it's light and slim. The price has gotten high but if I lost my main Bugout, I'd replace it that day.
Thank you X! The look of it is what catches my eyes. ( the mini that is ) the regular not so much. I do like them though. Bailout is pretty awesome too in looks. I gotta put em in my hand tho. Thank you sir!
I agree. Bugout is for EDC. It’s not a dedicated outdoor knife. For that, go get a fixed blade. An $80 Mora Garberg would be way better for camping or hunting.
Yeah, the griptilian is still better. I have the same problem with the hardware getting dirty though. Still great for EDC and pretty light but good grip and easy to use for actual tasks. The bug out is better for office workers and not actual use.
You should check out the zero tolerance 0450 knives. They’re about the same size of the bugout and they are very nice little edc knives. I have one in carbon fiber and titanium and a second in all titanium. The only thing that could be better is a deep carry clip. But it’s a classy knife.
So crazy im seeing this come up a month after i bought mine. Never owned a benchmade and its the most i ever spent on a folding pocket knife at $330aud (i have some really expensive kitchen knives) and i only just had to sharpen mine after a month with extreme use, opening paint tins chopping and weening through timber cutting steel and aluminium swarthe of of shit. I got the blue one with the sandy color blade
Sound advice. The trend purchases are often like this. Really not user knives but pweety toys and fashion accessories. A half hour of whittling separates out the good stuff in short order.
All those activities you mention brother should be done with a fix blade. The only way I would process a kill with a 3.4 inch folder is if I’m processing squirrel in a survival situation. The Benchmade will last forever. I have a 17 year old mini griptillian that has been solid…. I wouldn’t wear it to work though because the grit would get in the hardware and I got tired of cleaning it every other day.
you really should try the hogue deka if you haven't yet, it' cheaper, also usa made, has better fit'n'finish, the same lock type, a very similar profile and slicy blade, and to top it off: magnacut.
You can but the 06 auto plain edge tanto or drop point from cutlery shop for 145, stll 40 dollats cheaper than a bugout, side note deka in magnacuts are on sale for 100 a few places, i aslo like the kershaw heist or iridium for the 50ish going price
I love benchmade but i always thought the bugout was overpriced, especially when it first dropped. It was just plastic and steel and they wanted like $180.
If all you care about is weight, like me an ultralight hiker. The bugout is really hard to beat. Can anyone tepp me if the carbon version weight the same or less than other versions. Or what is the lightest possible weight set up for this?
I recently bought two Benchmades knives from GovX a mini griptillian and the bugout cf elite, it’s nice to actually have a great USA made knife, GovX has good discounts for veterans otherwise I wouldn’t of paid full price for them…
Would you recommend the Benchmade mini adamas or griptilian over the bugout for EDC? I have those 2 and have been considering buying the bugout, but if the griptilian or mini adamas are better, I'll save my money.
Hi, liked your video. I'm just looking for some recommendation here. I'm about to buy the carbon mini Bugout version but im getting confused if i should get the regular bugout. My uses would be regular EDC like opening boxes, maybe slicing an apple or uset it as table knife in my office. Why the carbon version? Because (like a lot of people i suppose)i try to get in their hands the best version of everything (if the wallet dosnt comply or not that mucho lol). Im also a hunter and i understand that's not the proper usage for a bugout, i dont even plan to bring it to my hunting trips; for that purposes i have some other kives f (im planing to buy another benchmade for hunting but not at the moment). So again my question is, should i get the regular or mini version? Im an office guy where i use a suite; i also have at least 1 BBQ night with frends every week so those would be my scenarios. Thanks man and great work with your videos .
@@TMthumperI would personally go with a bugout vs the deka but definitely agree with the bel air. The only thing is that the bel air is significantly heavier. I used to carry my bugout alllll the time but now that my collection has grown I find myself carrying the bel air pretty frequently. I love the super deep carry clip on the bel air also.
What's up MX. First time here. Thanks for the review. I've had several Griptilians over the years and love them as an edc forest cruising knife. I also had a Boost that I had to surrender to TSA last time I was flying...I was soo pissed at myself. Yeah, Benchmade is a good product for sure. But Benchmade is also overpriced. I just can't bring myself to spend that money anymore. There are comparable knives at better prices. If Benchmade comes down to reality with their prices then I will definitely revisit them. Cheers.
As much as i hate buying chinese, the civivi qubit is amzingly comfortable, solid aluminium scales (not just a skin over liner) and melts in the hand, also the gerber sedulo is very similar and like a bugout just slightly bigger
I was going through my garage the other day and I realized I have a unhealthy addiction of buying cutting tools. I started filling up a duffel bag with all the knives, hatchets, axes, bayonets etc... that I own and it was ridiculous. I don't know what I've been thinking!?!?
Honestly the least sexy and most ergonomic and useful knife is the spyderco native 5 in my opinion. Even the FRN version is solid. If you don’t mind a back lock it’s in my opinion one of the best knives if all time.
I agree. The native 5 started my Spyderco obsession, and it still might be my favorite knife ever. If I could only have one knife for edc, it would be a native 5 salt.
I can only partially understand if at all people's criticism about the Bugout. People are always complaining that the handle is too flexible. That it is not very robust. That is why it only weighs 1.9 ounces... The Omega spring is the only real problem, which is embarrassing for Benchmade (the "inventors" of the Axis Lock...) Maybe Benchmade just has the wrong supplier... Fix it ASAP!!! Because with Kershaw knives it works without any problems. Of course, the price is debatable. However, Benchmade knives are of excellent quality overall and I am sure the employees at Benchmade earn good money and I am happy to pay a little more for that. The Bugout is not a bushcraft knife. It is an EDC for opening boxes, cutting ropes and cords, opening letters, spreading butter on your bread (I would never do this😂) it is an extremely light knife that you always carry with you for pretty much every occasion and that is how it should be seen. In any case, I despise people who knowingly buy fake Bugouts (or whatever model) just because they cannot or do not want to afford an original. All they achieve is to shove money into the mouths of the criminal Chinese regime and ruin local businesses. Pretty much every knife manufacturer has a "cheap knife division". Buy a knife from there, the selection is large enough. The Chinese have been stealing and copying everything they get their hands on for decades and anyone who helps them should go to hell.
A lot of money just to cut something. For me, it's too small and not tough enough and way too much money. Am quite happy with my RECON-1. Thanks for your video.
Bugout is over priced and over estimated. It’s a good knife but not of that price. I just don’t see the value here. Spyderco is also expensive but i can see the effort on ergonomics and good heat treatment on some steels and i could back it up upon my experiences using some of their models. I just don’t see it on the bugout. The other thing is that 95% of people who actually need and use a knife in their daily life often have a cheap knife from what I’ve noticed and it’s usually beat up pretty badly. They don’t seem to care that much for bling bling. My grandpa my father and other blue collar or military people I’ve seen usually edc slip joint folders or fiftyish dollar knives. And when i say use a knife is literally using it from the food prep to jobside ,farm ,outdoor or even scraping the calluses from their palms all with that one knife.The edc community is the target group of the bling knives like bugout and many more. Sad reality is that those people who carry the fancy steels and knives are using them for envelope or box opening. I don’t judge them bad and it’s their right to spend their hard earned money however they please, but for me it’s difficult to comprehend some things like spending 200-800 dollars on a knife , which is just a cutting /slicing tool and also have the fear of losing it. There is a 1% though that carries expensive knives and uses them like a frontier would back in those times. But it’s just one out of a hundred people. Sorry for the long sheet
I would write the samething 👍🏻👏👏👏
You need to see it more as a hobby and a fascination for knives. You can not compare it to the people you described at first.
@@panoskarallis6797 i agree totaly👍🏻
spyderco is just as overrated. their handles are like blocks
Hard agree on your statement.@@slyfox4564
I have 2. I do love them but your right the price is ridiculous. If I lost one I wouldn't replace it.
Guys, they need to raise the prices to support the war in Ukraine
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Well I'll admit it. I've been using a BM clone for about 2 years and I've had no problem with it and it did what I needed it to do. That's less than $25. Sorry but it only makes sense to me. I've been Sharpening knives for 45 years so I have no problem with hitting my knife a couple licks a week on a smooth stone or strap. Save what $150 to sharpen 1 every once in a while? No Brainerd
$25? I only paid $18 including postage for mine. LOL Great little knife been using it for over a year now. I do have an original Benchmade, it's nice but the price is insane.
That’s great that it works for you. But how good can the steel really be on that knife?
I’ve carried mine for 5 years now I think, I think you make a good point where it’s not a perfect knife for the outdoors. EDC it’s perfect, I have done light batoning with it and it did okay. Super sharp and light weight. Got it for $130 in 2018 and it’s been a great buy
Years ago I purchased a couple of basic Bugouts for $85 each and have enjoyed watching their price soar. Wish my stock portfolio increased commensurately. Thanks for your overview.
I year ago? Damn i got to know about them very late...
I also have the aluminum Bugout with the M390 blade and it’s my favorite EDC knife.
When I’m going backpacking, I replace it with a Benchmade mini Crooked River and a Bushcrafter fixed blade. If I’m going hunting, then the bushcrafter is replaced by the Saddle Mountain Skinner or a Buck 119.
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I love mine for daily carry. Its not supposed to be for heavy use.
I got it for $135. I wouldn't buy it for more than that.
That's what so stupid to me, if its not a pure aesthetic non-user, a $135 knife better be for more than heavy use. I have several knives half that price that I can beat the hell out of (and have) for forever and be fine. Shouldn't be able to easily snap the handle/liners by hand of even a +$50 knife
@wishonafish yeah. It's not a budget knife. But Its great for what it is. You won't find anything lighter and thinner in such good steel. Honestly, though, a year later and I barely carry it. I'm into sheepsfoot blades now. Far more useful.
@Andrew-un8tx I don't blame people for owning them, I just thinks its god awful value personally, but would be great imo around 1/3 the price. even tho I still wouldnt never own one cause tbh, ever since I saw it snapped in half by hand force, I just have a strong dislike for it lol
@@Andrew-un8tx you a big knife collector btw? jw
I love the bugout so much, i now own 6 of them, including the carbon fiber mini. Great little knives, very well rounded for my purposes. Yea, the prices are ridiculous... but id much rather my money be going to American tables, feeding American families.
Directly Helping remove that 2A big ups man
@CDXRK totally my motivation behind buying their knives.. you got me... had i known about them assisting in the destruction of confiscated firearms, i probably would have never bought their knives... im not totally tuned in with all the goings ons within the gun community... but feel free to tar and feather me anyway...
@@triple9finestacker631 you have been featherd! Nah tbh I'm not even from the country that it applies too. It's just a fact people in America tend to care about so I thought id mention it in a semi satirical way. Your money from your hardwork who am I to say what you spend it on, But it's something to consider especially given today's pricing strategies
@@CDXRK if you bothered to actually read what happened, you might not have made that comment. The Oregon City PD were required by law as part of policy to destroy those firearms. Benchmade gladly assisted them when they asked. They fully support the police community and 2A rights.
@MrRobinson326 I've done a video on this
S30v is still an amazing steel. Steel snobs are a thorn in the side of the edc community. Half of them don't even use a steel to its full potential so they can't even talk. It's a status quo more than anything. A buddy of mine who I do lives with on IG have put the OG ranger green bugout through its paces and it holds up with all the best.
Agreed. I hate the EDC community, it’s now all about aesthetics instead of what real EDC OGs intended it for…..functionality. People like Taylor have ruined the community making it all about fashion…..the posers like him are easy to spot.
Sure but for 180 bucks that’s ridiculous. A Civivi with Nitro V is 50.
Always found that so annoying, like 98% of the time they are opening boxes, when I pick knife steel I'm concerned about all the corrosive acids and salts I'm around and daily heavy work
It's true and you're right. I bought a s110v pm2 and I use it for diy renos but even that I feel is not the environment for this knife so I use a Milwaukee fastback and a ganzo instead
Yeah its a good steel but you can get better steel for less money....
The shot where you have the knife spinning on the turntable is fantastic. Well done ❤
Agree. Marine X puts a lot of effort into his videos!
The Spyderco Manix 2 lightweight is a much better knife for what you describe and it is cheaper. It's a bit heavier at 3oz, but its a much more capable and comfortable knife.
Isn’t the Manix 2 lightweight $180? That’s the exact same price as a Bugout. I have a Manix 2 and a Bugout, and I wouldn’t say one is really better than the other. It all depends on what is more comfortable in your hand. For me the Bugout feels better, but the Manix 2 is an excellent knife, obviously. Very comparable tools.
@@Scientist_Salarian , you can get one in CTS BD1N for about $125, and from my experience, it falls somewhere between 154cm and S30v. While it doesn't hold an edge as long, it is less prone to chipping than S30V but also more rust resistant and holds an edge longer than 154CM. I am a bit biased when it comes to the Manix2 as I own several and it's 1 of my most carried knives. But I can admit it's one of those "you either love it or hate it" knives.
@8:49 you need to look at this on a percentage increase basis. The Spyderco is up 40% (175/125), the CRKT is up 60% (40/25) and the Bugout is up the least at 33% (180/135). Either way, I do agree that the prices are getting insane.
I love my multiple Bugouts and mini-Bugouts, but Benchmade prices have grown ridiculously. I then discovered how affordable and ergonomic Spyderco knives are and have switched to buying Spyderco knives almost exclusively. Exotic knife steels don’t interest me!
Ive had the Bugout Mini with Ti scales on it for years daily used. Absolutly love it. In stock plastic form all I remember was being super unhappy. Rockscale Design has been rocked for years now :)
The only issue is if your bearing down on it like woodcarving. I bring bigger knives to screw around with but for backpacking or day to day use It’s perfect. Axis locks kinda suck since you have to disassemble to get blood/fat out after processing game but for the weight it’s pretty tempting to make do if backpacking. The blade is perfect for camp food prep and skinning/boning out. The price is ridiculous, the scales feel cheap the thin lite blade makes the action isn’t as good as the griptilian the omega springs can break (both mine did swapped with thicker aftermarket) the blade flexes/rocks side to side but it still ended my search for the perfect pocket knife. It’s pretty flawed but good enough. Nothing puts as capable a blade in your pocket without adding weight and bulk.
The Buggout needs to be compared to the Civivi Mini Praxis . D2 blade steel is good enough for a tool knife.
D2 rusts though, and S30V used on the bugout is stainless.
@@gregs7519Maybe so, but the Bugout costs more than five times as much as the Mini Praxis. I’m sure it’s a better knife, but is it five times as good? If my Mini Praxis rusts, and I can’t figure out how to remove the rust, I’ll just buy another one. For the cost of a single Bugout, I can replace my Mini Praxis every five years for a couple of decades.
The civivi is also made in China sooo………
It really should be compared to a CIVIVI Sokoke or Kershaw Iridium. They are all nearly the same design and differing blade steels
the best comparison (and also usa made) is the hogue deka, you get better fit'n'finish and even magnacut on the deka for less bucks.
seriously, the only thing that keeps benchmade alive is their reputation from early days.
I have the aluminum and the carbon bug out. Love them both. Rest of my knives are lonely. I think I like the feel of the aluminum one better in my hand. I love the carbon carry in my light weight pants but the handle feel isn’t perfect like the aluminum. The black blade on the aluminum contrasts nicely thus the cool factor! Both damn sharp and one or the other is used every day.
If you don't care about not having an Axis lock then you should consider the Cold Steel American Lawman. It's an awesome light weight knife that can take more punishment and at less the price.
I have a mini bugout. Lives in my EDC pack as a general purpose back up blade. No complaints
This comment sounds rich
I love my Bugout to death for EDC. The problem is that reviewers try to assign tasks to it that it’s clearly not meant for. If you need a tactical knife, get a proper tactical knife. If you need a hunting knife, get a true hunting knife. If you only need something to open the occasional Amazon box, don’t spend $200. But if you need an amazingly capable knife for everyday, blue-collar or tradesman use (like me) the Bugout is incredible. Don’t use the wrong tool for the job, then complain it isn’t adequate.
I just bought the aluminum bugout and didn’t mind spending a bit extra for the “eye candy”. Great knife!
I ended up giving my bug out to my wife and she uses it for cutting up food for our daughter mainly. Went back to my PM2
Just recently. I jumped into the edc community . As someone like you, we have had lots of field time to know what works and what don't.
I love S30V steel, i have the Benchmade Presidio II with black aluminum scales, it’s 12 years old and functions perfectly. The Bugout is the worst knife Benchmade makes IMO.
I’ll take a stainless steel Opinel #8 over a Bugout any day of the week, or a large Case XX Sodbuster in stainless.😎
I edc the benchmade griptilian. Its been a beautiful choice for me and worth every penny. To be honest my best man gave it to me as a nice gift on my wedding day, but they still only run about 150$ to 200$ Canadian. It’s perfect size for edc, staying sharp af and handle n action are rugged. I enjoy it and honestly will purchase another when the time is right.
I've been watching you run your grape for a while now. And this may be one of the best videos yet. 👍
I own a bugout with Micarta scales from flytanium and I love it! But I completely agree with you, the prices are now far to high. Especially here in Germany with taxes and shipping…😢
I love Benchmade, and my Bugout. But your video is well done, well thought out, and articulate. You've gained a new subscription from me
Semper Fi brother! I have a lot of customs, mid tech's and some old Benchmades such as the 710. I ended up buying a Bugout for long multi day backpacking trips where every ounce counts. I got the Benchmade but didn't like the Grivory material since it felt like cheap injection molded plastic. I ended up buying a Flytanium burlap micarta and it made a good knife great.
Kabar dozier is the way to go
I found the Freek has a thicker handle making it more comfortable to use over longer period of time....but its more expensive so you have to take that into consideration as well.
Very similar journey, lol.
Had the non-automatic version of that Gerber, and loved that big beast, but needed something more lightweight.
Recently got into Civivi, which I like a lot, and grabbed a few of the Ozark trails for some beater knives.
I generally go for budget options, but have been trying to level up the collection a little.
I gave you your thousandth like (yup, I'm proud of it) because frankly this video is very well done and you present things honestly all in a very cool setting. Keep up the good work! (personally I went with a Lil'native, but nothing says that I wouldn't take a bugout just for my collection and occasional uses).
I carried the mini Bugout for most of the AT this year and it ceased to be a one-hand opener because of the dirt and grime.
The Bugout seems to be rather popular for some reason. I have ordered the Benchmade Vector 495 a few months ago and i find the handle to be beefy enough to feel pretty comfortable even for a longer time of usage. But here in Germany I had to pay around 260 Euros for that thing brand new. Anyway, I am pleased with it so far and I love the look of it as well. The fact that it is an assisted flipper which basically means that I can only close it by using two hands unless I press the back of the blade against my thigh does not bother me too much. Anyway, thanks for that very informative video and greetings from Germany.
I’m not sure how much of an oddity the price hike since 2017 is; the Para3 increase is nearly the same. BUT the Para3 is no longer available in S30V.
Were you issued the knife through CIF, or homie hook up from supply?
The Carbon Fibre in the UK sits at $316.99 (based on today's exchange rate). It's almost inaccessible at that point and frankly a bit of a joke.
Yeah, the Bugout and Bailout are over-priced for what they are. I have found a couple second hand for about half price.
I have a north fork folder, full liner, same steel, similar price. I prefer it over the bugout for strength (partial liner on the bugout). Weight saving isn’t worth the strength sacrifice to me.
I love it for hunting, skinned 3 deer before it needed to be tuned up.
can you get other brands with similar specs cheaper, probably. You can probably get a civivi that’s very close for half the price. I like the warranty on benchmade, i like their sharpening program, made in the USA VS China. but do what you like.
You are correct, it's too expensive and it feels cheap for processing a Kill. It's more for opening up strong boxes. But they do look nice
Thank you. Great review. I like the fact that you take many factors on choosing the knife...or not. Been sitting on the fence on the Bugout for a while now. Heard a lot of the good, bad and ugly about them. I only usually cut tape and boxes, but I still want something with a little more heft to it. Possibly a Ritter RSK MK1-G2. Once again, great review and thank you.
What do you think about the clone?
You should try the Hogue Deka v2
I carry a Mini Griptillian for EDC and I just got a Mini Bugout clone to see if I would like it (and for places I don't want to lose an expensive knife). It's 20$, virtually identical to the real thing, with the exception of the steel probably.
The weight is awesome, I was blown away at how light it is - I had to weigh it and make sure it was even correct!
I think I like the Mini Grip better. The ergonomics are so much better for me and it feels much more solid, safer, the action might be better (I don't know for sure since it's a clone).
I do see lots of positives though, for example if I'm just out for a walk in like gym shorts or wearing sweatpants, light stuff where a knife feels bulky.
Maybe I would like the full size Bugout more.
Price wise it is way too expensive. I wouldn't buy it, or the Mini Grip for the price it's listed. $100 or less, sure.
My fancy bugout m390 fell out of my pocket on my motorcycle.. replaced it with a civivi mini praxis lol
I love my bugout for EDC, but like you said, it's not exactly a hard user.
Totally agree
If you like the mini-bugout, check out the Vosteed Mini-Psyop. Outstanding slicey blade comparable to the mini-bugout with better materials, Elmax and Micarta.
BTW, that shot of the knife on the record player was really cool!
I'm not too interested in Benchmade, I EDC a PM 2 but I just wanted to say you just need to try adding a fixed blade to your kit. I'd recommend any Mora, but the Kansbol is a great all arounder.
I wanted to get at least one benchmade knife but I finally decided on the 940 after seeing all these videos on the bugout (my other option). It’s cool, and i really love the lightweight aspect, but for that price you’re just not getting a whole lot. Whereas the 940 is apparently a tried and true edc design for 2 decades now!
I like the bugout but I seem to carry the griptilian a lot more. That knife seems to be a lot more robust feeling.
My kabar dozier is 10x tougher than my bugout and is alot cheaper to purchase
I had a bunch of doziers and still didn't equal the price of one bugout, including a D2 version.
Is it normal that they are a little stiff and locksticky at the beginning? Just bought my first one (ranger green).
The osbourne I have is super smooth but I got this 2nd hand.
Very normal on production knives. Give it time to break in. If it doesn't break in after a few weeks, then adjust the pivot until you get desired action with no blade play. Secure with loctite.
I bought my first real switchblade when i was 25ish. It was cold steel tuff lite fde. I carried that for a year or two and then police confiscated it😅 Went few years without one, then i bought cold steel m voyager and budget Kershaw auto. That budget one was better. I like my folding knives light, they cannot weigh over 75 grams/2 ounces. Then i bought few quality spydercos and promised myself those were enough for the rest of my life... Now i got few more spydercos, few Kabars, one crkt, Kershaw Leek, couple different throwing knives, several fixed blades, 3x sak knives, one bugout and mini coming in that i ordered yesterday😂
I miss the Benchmade of the 90s and early 2000, with all the amazing designs and locking systems. I get that the AXIS lock has become their bread and butter. But I just think they have become a little bit complacent when it comes to their folders. Outside the Anthem they are all pretty much regular AXIS locks. And it doesn't seem like they are working on innovating on the Axis lock (making it adjustable, stronger and more reliable spring materials, etc). And the original hardware is just bad. Their warranty is great or at least was great a few years ago, but for people living outside the States it's $60-70 to ship it insured. I loved their knives since I was a little kid, but lately I just think it would be nice to see something different, whether it is a Liner Lock, a back lock, or just the variety of locks and designs they had back in the day.
Benchmade 42- Price now 2000 $
Good video and breakdown as usual. I love my Bugout... well all of them. It's probably my EDC about 90% of the time and it goes with me on hikes too, but usually for smaller tasks as I will usually bring something beefier with me on major adventures such as an ESEE 4 or 5. Haven't had any issues with it, even with dirt, mud, sand, etc. Easy to sharpen. Love that it's light and slim. The price has gotten high but if I lost my main Bugout, I'd replace it that day.
Would love to hear your opinion on the Benchmade 940
I got a Cold Steel AD-10 and never look back at my Para 3/2 or Benchmade, for me the ad-10 is the ultimate knife
Thank you X! The look of it is what catches my eyes. ( the mini that is ) the regular not so much. I do like them though. Bailout is pretty awesome too in looks. I gotta put em in my hand tho. Thank you sir!
Who made those metal scales on the black bladed Bugout?
Benchmade made them. It’s linked in the description
I bought a bugout when it first came out. Still have it. I love the bugout but it is a bummer that the price keeps increasing.
Where’d you get the good one. ? I’ve heard they are a good knife. This economy…not buying expensive knives. Right now any way. Thx.
I agree. Bugout is for EDC. It’s not a dedicated outdoor knife. For that, go get a fixed blade. An $80 Mora Garberg would be way better for camping or hunting.
Yeah, the griptilian is still better. I have the same problem with the hardware getting dirty though. Still great for EDC and pretty light but good grip and easy to use for actual tasks. The bug out is better for office workers and not actual use.
You should check out the zero tolerance 0450 knives. They’re about the same size of the bugout and they are very nice little edc knives. I have one in carbon fiber and titanium and a second in all titanium. The only thing that could be better is a deep carry clip. But it’s a classy knife.
Great handy little knife. I have the carbon fiber S90V model.
Great explaining man you nailed it!
So crazy im seeing this come up a month after i bought mine. Never owned a benchmade and its the most i ever spent on a folding pocket knife at $330aud (i have some really expensive kitchen knives) and i only just had to sharpen mine after a month with extreme use, opening paint tins chopping and weening through timber cutting steel and aluminium swarthe of of shit. I got the blue one with the sandy color blade
Have two, will get some more to include the mini.
Need to compare the Bugout to the Kaiser Drop Bear, which in all its variants is a better knife for the money.
Sound advice. The trend purchases are often like this. Really not user knives but pweety toys and fashion accessories. A half hour of whittling separates out the good stuff in short order.
I also own 20 piece bugout,s from frn to titanium. but the BENCHMADE II NARROWS priced at $580. is not normal anymore. they have gone crazy at BM
All those activities you mention brother should be done with a fix blade. The only way I would process a kill with a 3.4 inch folder is if I’m processing squirrel in a survival situation. The Benchmade will last forever. I have a 17 year old mini griptillian that has been solid…. I wouldn’t wear it to work though because the grit would get in the hardware and I got tired of cleaning it every other day.
I have really been into Civivi lately they have some nice knives at a good price
you really should try the hogue deka if you haven't yet, it' cheaper, also usa made, has better fit'n'finish, the same lock type, a very similar profile and slicy blade, and to top it off: magnacut.
And the Wharncliffe blade is awesome!!!!
You can but the 06 auto plain edge tanto or drop point from cutlery shop for 145, stll 40 dollats cheaper than a bugout, side note deka in magnacuts are on sale for 100 a few places, i aslo like the kershaw heist or iridium for the 50ish going price
I love benchmade but i always thought the bugout was overpriced, especially when it first dropped. It was just plastic and steel and they wanted like $180.
I'll stick with my griptillion. Got it for around 100$ a long time ago and its still perfect.
If all you care about is weight, like me an ultralight hiker. The bugout is really hard to beat. Can anyone tepp me if the carbon version weight the same or less than other versions. Or what is the lightest possible weight set up for this?
lightest you get is the 535-3 in cf. its about 1.4 ounces where the grivory is 1.8
Been looking for a a partial serrated Bugout. They don’t even sell that on their website. Is that a knock-off ?
Discontinued, it was available the first year or two they came out
@@tacmechanic ahh.. the story of my life, dollar short and a day late.
I recently bought two Benchmades knives from GovX a mini griptillian and the bugout cf elite, it’s nice to actually have a great USA made knife, GovX has good discounts for veterans otherwise I wouldn’t of paid full price for them…
Would you recommend the Benchmade mini adamas or griptilian over the bugout for EDC? I have those 2 and have been considering buying the bugout, but if the griptilian or mini adamas are better, I'll save my money.
Griptilian has a better blade shape than the bugout. The mini adamas is awesome but sucks in joggers and light shorts
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Benchmade drop base or MSRP on anything. That sure would be nice though!
I just bought a Griptillion.... hope its as good as it was at being expensive ....😆 😅
The Bugout Carbon is very nice!
Hi, liked your video. I'm just looking for some recommendation here. I'm about to buy the carbon mini Bugout version but im getting confused if i should get the regular bugout. My uses would be regular EDC like opening boxes, maybe slicing an apple or uset it as table knife in my office. Why the carbon version? Because (like a lot of people i suppose)i try to get in their hands the best version of everything (if the wallet dosnt comply or not that mucho lol). Im also a hunter and i understand that's not the proper usage for a bugout, i dont even plan to bring it to my hunting trips; for that purposes i have some other kives f (im planing to buy another benchmade for hunting but not at the moment). So again my question is, should i get the regular or mini version? Im an office guy where i use a suite; i also have at least 1 BBQ night with frends every week so those would be my scenarios. Thanks man and great work with your videos .
No. Get a Hogue Deka or Kershaw Bel Air..better materials, cheaper price, all USA made
@@TMthumperI would personally go with a bugout vs the deka but definitely agree with the bel air. The only thing is that the bel air is significantly heavier. I used to carry my bugout alllll the time but now that my collection has grown I find myself carrying the bel air pretty frequently. I love the super deep carry clip on the bel air also.
What's up MX. First time here. Thanks for the review. I've had several Griptilians over the years and love them as an edc forest cruising knife. I also had a Boost that I had to surrender to TSA last time I was flying...I was soo pissed at myself. Yeah, Benchmade is a good product for sure. But Benchmade is also overpriced. I just can't bring myself to spend that money anymore. There are comparable knives at better prices. If Benchmade comes down to reality with their prices then I will definitely revisit them. Cheers.
I got my first Bugout the mini last night for $99 on sale and majorly disappointed.
For $99 it may be a fake. I see fake ones for $99 offered frequently.
Great information to know. Thank You.
Walmart has one Ozark Trail 7.5 inch Slide Lock Folder Folding Knife for $10!
Call me biased, but I think you a lil more bang for ur buck with spyderco… a pm2/3 ergos are phenomenal and u can get the same steel or better
As much as i hate buying chinese, the civivi qubit is amzingly comfortable, solid aluminium scales (not just a skin over liner) and melts in the hand, also the gerber sedulo is very similar and like a bugout just slightly bigger
Love that shirt! What brand is it?
I was going through my garage the other day and I realized I have a unhealthy addiction of buying cutting tools. I started filling up a duffel bag with all the knives, hatchets, axes, bayonets etc... that I own and it was ridiculous. I don't know what I've been thinking!?!?
Honestly the least sexy and most ergonomic and useful knife is the spyderco native 5 in my opinion. Even the FRN version is solid. If you don’t mind a back lock it’s in my opinion one of the best knives if all time.
I agree. The native 5 started my Spyderco obsession, and it still might be my favorite knife ever. If I could only have one knife for edc, it would be a native 5 salt.
I can only partially understand if at all people's criticism about the Bugout. People are always complaining that the handle is too flexible. That it is not very robust. That is why it only weighs 1.9 ounces... The Omega spring is the only real problem, which is embarrassing for Benchmade (the "inventors" of the Axis Lock...) Maybe Benchmade just has the wrong supplier... Fix it ASAP!!! Because with Kershaw knives it works without any problems. Of course, the price is debatable. However, Benchmade knives are of excellent quality overall and I am sure the employees at Benchmade earn good money and I am happy to pay a little more for that. The Bugout is not a bushcraft knife. It is an EDC for opening boxes, cutting ropes and cords, opening letters, spreading butter on your bread (I would never do this😂) it is an extremely light knife that you always carry with you for pretty much every occasion and that is how it should be seen. In any case, I despise people who knowingly buy fake Bugouts (or whatever model) just because they cannot or do not want to afford an original. All they achieve is to shove money into the mouths of the criminal Chinese regime and ruin local businesses. Pretty much every knife manufacturer has a "cheap knife division". Buy a knife from there, the selection is large enough. The Chinese have been stealing and copying everything they get their hands on for decades and anyone who helps them should go to hell.
The regular Bugout can cost $180.00.
That's just way too much for me to spend on pretty much a basic knife.
A lot of money just to cut something. For me, it's too small and not tough enough and way too much money. Am quite happy with my RECON-1. Thanks for your video.
Great video.. my favorite knife for this hot FL weather.. active shorts are a must sometimes.. everyday i carry a bugout