A lot of hate came from fhe fact the game was filled with aussie humour which is hilarious because aussie humour is great and it actually made the characters less cringy and fell more like actual people
"If I had a nickel for every time my footage cut out just before beating the final boss in a painful challenge run, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
I was disappointed with TPS at launch, but with many years of replaying BL1, 2, and TPS I’ve found that it delivered a great experience that is worth revisiting.
It's not great if you love farming loot considering there's very little farmable enemies with dedicated loot drops that aren't one time kills. Story is... well... Zarpedon is boring but at least she was present and a threat unlike Commandant Steele in BL1.
Here is a Challenge, Can you beat Borderlands 2 and all its DLC Content (Mainly the DLC Campaigns and Headhunters DLC) with only the very first weapon you get in the game, the Basic Repeater?
Think my take on it would be something like using the one you get in TVHM and beating TVHM for more challenge. It sucks you can’t get a legit one in UVHM or OP levels because you skip the first mission otherwise ide do it in OP10
TPS is maybe my favorite borderlands game so it's really nice to see it. whenever i play the others I really miss the verticality of oz kits, very much wish they'd put some sort of super jump in bl3.
@wojtektroll2795 I disagree, I really liked the Fl4k the beastmaster, he was fun as hell to experiment builds with. Amara's siren was pretty cool too but Maya was still the best Siren by far imo. TPS definitely had a good roster though and playing as Handsome Jack was fun as hell
@wojtektroll2795 Yeah for sure. The Bl3 villains were atrocious but the gameplay was far superior to the other games with the new parkour mechanics and weapon types. The Handsome Jackpot DLC made up for the terrible main story alone. All the DLCs for Bl3 are amazing so I recommend buying the game with all the DLC otherwise you might be disappointed from the underwhelming villains
@@alexursu4403god yeah those guys are the bane of my existence as a Gaige Main, what few shots I can hit with my Uber-Negative accuracy they just reflect them lmao I just end up using various grenade types depending on what I happen to be using (Usually an electric grenade like the Storm Front due to her middle skill tree or a Magic Missile from the Dragon Keep dlc like every borderlands player ever lmao)
@@DarkVampireL if it wasn't released after BL1 and 2 it definitely wouldn't get as much hate. On its own it's a fine game but comparing it to the 2 games that come before its pretty not good
@@nadnerb_sr20 I agree with you on that. They are both better games, but I see it as the underdog in the series and I want to defend it a bit. I know it has its faults, but it’s still a good game.
Not going to lie I really like the Pre-Sequel, it's well designed and had a lot of great concepts. And that DLC, bro. just nobody cared for some reason and that makes me sad
Cause it wasn’t well designed I just tried replaying this game and constantly get stopped by characters not going through invisible walls there’s no endgame nothing to grind it’s n or even borderlands at that point
@@novapheonixgaming idk why people enjoy grinding anyway, i see all the people having OP10 characters and I don't even get how you can keep doing the same thing over and over, whats the fun in that? Its just a much shorter bl2 with less exploits, better character and weapon balance and better gameplay
15:57 couldn't have said it better. I enjoyed the fight and even though I was sweating, it was more pleasant than I assumed. It wasn't the type of thing that was too easy or too hard.
I used to DESPISE this game, but in the past 3 yrs I’ve grown to actually like it more. It’s like fine tier for me now, but I really wish the game got all of its dlcs, because the claptastic voyage dlc is like 50% of the reason I even would play the game. And better farms and endgame could actually make this game amazing and it’s sad it ended up the way that it did. Also “clap his cheeks ‘til he exploded” is 100% an innuendo and you can’t tell me it ain’t gasmask 🙂 I’m watching you 🙂
In contrast to BL2, do you think it would work to do a Grog Nozzle playthrough only for borderlands 2? Would that be challenging enough for you signature masochistic game style? The grog would make death difficult with the healing, but it's also doesn't really do any damage... It would be like your funny sketch in the Captain Blade. "I shoot the enemies; we both die." It would be like "I shoot the enemies; and neither of us die."
Melee Jack sounds awful for the beginning, not sure how the DPS with only one probe would be, and the clone action skill seems like it would do all the work. Your probably right it might be easier but I think Nisha brought a good ratio of pros and cons.
I feel the game aged well as heck it’s one of my favorites just because of how unique and fun it feels I try my best to look at it more like fam service I mean playing jack, claptrap, Athena, wilhelm. Having a whole dlc dedicated to claptrap. Heck playing Athena with a gunless run is the most fun I ever had playing borderlands.
I can't believe you hating on TPS like this. Its my favorite Borderlands game! Timothy and Nisha are so much fun to play as and I just love bouncing and butt slamming around. And I actually like the story and setting. But I'm not very much into farming, but I can see how the lack of farmable bosses is a problem for some people. I don't even know what the loot it called unless its in a LilGasmask video lol.
A actually pretty liked the Presequal, especially the ClapTrap DLC^^ I still I only have 28 hours in it (for reference, BL2: 258h, BL3: 237h) and I kinda forgot about this weapon ;P also: for better innuendos, I think you should have a probe which is one level under your level ;P
for your second video this is pretty high quality. id personally like the length to be longer but i feel like that's more of a: i like paying attention to longer things thing
Claptrap has an action skill that could theoretically do it alone so if I did do it as Claptrap I would prolly not use some of the action skills if I could to make it fair.
RedBelly is one of the toughest bosses in the game for Nisha since you don't have any way to activate kill skills... unless you leave enemies behind and toss a few homin Bonus Package nades toward the door to proc kill skills while entering the arena. I use this same tech to speedkill Iwajira in 4 seconds with the Fridgia two fer Luck Cannon combo.
Might sound stupid but k really enjoy your content I watched all of your vids atleast 5 times idk why but they are just so chill! Keep up the good work!
The only thing I don’t 100% agree on. I loved the pre-sequel for its story alone. Maps are repetitive. The only vault Hunter that interested me was Aurelia and only because I love Cryo. But I love the story
Something I realized. You always see retrospective videos talking about what went wrong with what game. Like how Mass Effect Andromeda is still used as an example of a bad game. I don't think I have seen a video on what 2K Australia did wrong with BTPS. I've seen plenty on what went wrong with BL3. But that's it.
Honestly I like TPS but it felt more like a DLC for Borderlands 2. I think most of the gripe comes from lack of endgame content and the new stuff they introduced was a little lack luster. I thought the story was fine.
@@LilGasmask Yeah, I feel that was the issue for most. It felt like DLC. Most of the guns from BL2 were reused in TPS. While I think the story was better, I don't enjoy replaying it over and over again. Same issue as with BL3. I do remember that there was a leak some years back. That there was a DLC planned that got canned due to the low sales or low playerbase. But was gonna be on a Space Cruise ship. Does suck that was all we got.
@@LilGasmask from what i understand it was originally going to be DLC for 2 but the higher ups liked the direction it was goin and figured they could milk a full price game plus DLCs from it. honestly we got a great story out if it so i can't really complain but i get why people were pissed about it. all that said its still better than 3
@@LilGasmask It's pretty much the same story as Fallout:New Vegas, Batman: Arkham Origins and Saint's Row 4 where it was popular series got new installments that reused much of the assets of previous titles. Tiny Tina's wonderlands is doing pretty much the same thing.
@@exilestudios9546 Kind of. The reason we got the headhunter packs was that Gearbox was running out of memory for full on expansions like the previous DLC too. So instead Take Two asked Gearbox to work with 2K Australia which did the bulk of the development on The Pre-Sequel. IIRC the only Borderlands 2 DLC that Gearbox didn't outsource the bulk of the development on was Assault on Dragon Keep.
I’ve only played as claptrap a little, Athena a little, and a full play through as jack’s double I did not know she could dual wield pistols. I looked into her skill tree. I will be playing her next time I play TPS lol. If you have any suggestions for like, optimal jakobs pistols to farm for, I’m all ears
BL:TPS has done more for me than BL3 ever will. I laughed during the TPS story. I was actually amazed at the twist halfway through. The combat is BL2 but with lasers and butt slamming. Claptrap DLC is better than most of BL3's DLC. It's got faults for sure but TPS was far more enjoyable than BL3 to me.
Pink. Watch the Tannis cutscene in BL2 you’ll see them in the background but in the actual game they’re not there. Buddy I have had the hots for her so this is why I know this 😅
Aside from some of the dumb quests this is a pretty good game. The Felicity segment is....not a high point and the scientist quests absolutely sucked ass but other than that it was pretty solid.
I just discovered your channel and I can tell that you put a herculean amount of effort into these challenge runs, heres a sub!!
BL:TPS gets hate it doesn't deserve.
It’s the DS2 of the Borderlands franchise
@@Gary_a_normal_human_being apt comparison. I'm replaying tps because I remembered enjoying it. Turns out I still do
A lot of hate came from fhe fact the game was filled with aussie humour which is hilarious because aussie humour is great and it actually made the characters less cringy and fell more like actual people
It's the best bl by far rivals bl3 even
@@LordDarrenysus what's aussie humor?
"If I had a nickel for every time my footage cut out just before beating the final boss in a painful challenge run, I'd have two nickels - which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice."
I was disappointed with TPS at launch, but with many years of replaying BL1, 2, and TPS I’ve found that it delivered a great experience that is worth revisiting.
It's not great if you love farming loot considering there's very little farmable enemies with dedicated loot drops that aren't one time kills. Story is... well... Zarpedon is boring but at least she was present and a threat unlike Commandant Steele in BL1.
Here is a Challenge, Can you beat Borderlands 2 and all its DLC Content (Mainly the DLC Campaigns and Headhunters DLC) with only the very first weapon you get in the game, the Basic Repeater?
B0re time
he would prob just abuse bore
Idk I’ve seen people do this idea and if I end up doing it I’ll put my own take on it.
@@LilGasmask would you do the crit gunzerk exploit?
Think my take on it would be something like using the one you get in TVHM and beating TVHM for more challenge. It sucks you can’t get a legit one in UVHM or OP levels because you skip the first mission otherwise ide do it in OP10
You're telling me that "precision slamming" wasn't an innuendo
LMFAO that wasn’t even intended to be one XD. Rewatching tho there were a few more that I actually tried to make that I missed. Good find!
TPS is maybe my favorite borderlands game so it's really nice to see it. whenever i play the others I really miss the verticality of oz kits, very much wish they'd put some sort of super jump in bl3.
@wojtektroll2795 I disagree, I really liked the Fl4k the beastmaster, he was fun as hell to experiment builds with. Amara's siren was pretty cool too but Maya was still the best Siren by far imo. TPS definitely had a good roster though and playing as Handsome Jack was fun as hell
@wojtektroll2795 Yeah for sure. The Bl3 villains were atrocious but the gameplay was far superior to the other games with the new parkour mechanics and weapon types. The Handsome Jackpot DLC made up for the terrible main story alone. All the DLCs for Bl3 are amazing so I recommend buying the game with all the DLC otherwise you might be disappointed from the underwhelming villains
@Wojtek Troll "Step in the right direction" Is the right direction a cliff?
16:10 My favourite boss fights, especially since reflecting bullets is such a well thought out mechanic
Also makes Lasers shine more, since those can't be reflected. Makes you wish you could use those against the Anchor guys from the Captain Scarlet DLC.
@@alexursu4403god yeah those guys are the bane of my existence as a Gaige Main, what few shots I can hit with my Uber-Negative accuracy they just reflect them lmao I just end up using various grenade types depending on what I happen to be using (Usually an electric grenade like the Storm Front due to her middle skill tree or a Magic Missile from the Dragon Keep dlc like every borderlands player ever lmao)
Who doesn't love a good villain back story. Great run for a great game.
Honestly, TPS isn’t that bad. I really do find the game to be fun and I think the Clap-tastic DLC is one of the better Borderlands DLCs.
Same
Yeah the game is really fun
Its really just that its kinda hard to enjoy it sometimes
@@olivia892 It can be kinda rough to enjoy, some of the parts of the game just suck to do, but I think the game gets more hate than it deserves.
@@DarkVampireL if it wasn't released after BL1 and 2 it definitely wouldn't get as much hate. On its own it's a fine game but comparing it to the 2 games that come before its pretty not good
@@nadnerb_sr20 I agree with you on that. They are both better games, but I see it as the underdog in the series and I want to defend it a bit. I know it has its faults, but it’s still a good game.
binge watching your "can you beat borderlands" series is such a joy bro!! Keep it up!
Just watched your new vid where you go snowballs deep and needed a little probing to finish myself off
😳 Eyo?! 🤣
Not going to lie I really like the Pre-Sequel, it's well designed and had a lot of great concepts. And that DLC, bro. just nobody cared for some reason and that makes me sad
Cause it wasn’t well designed I just tried replaying this game and constantly get stopped by characters not going through invisible walls there’s no endgame nothing to grind it’s n or even borderlands at that point
@@novapheonixgamingIt's a great game, just not a replayable masterclass like the others.
@@novapheonixgaming idk why people enjoy grinding anyway, i see all the people having OP10 characters and I don't even get how you can keep doing the same thing over and over, whats the fun in that?
Its just a much shorter bl2 with less exploits, better character and weapon balance and better gameplay
@@timofy2641 nah the whole point of borderlands is grinding this game isn’t for you if you don’t enjoy it
15:57 couldn't have said it better.
I enjoyed the fight and even though I was sweating, it was more pleasant than I assumed.
It wasn't the type of thing that was too easy or too hard.
7:52 LMFAO
You must have encountered them after NNN
"Can you beat borderlands pre sequel without skills/super abilites"(claptrap run) would be cool
Glad we got another boy in the youtube scene for borderlands!!! Love this stuff c:
I never asked for this, but I'm so happy it got made anyway. Just spectacular
Good shit! I've recently been replaying the pre sequel myself. A very probeful experience.
I’d love to see an excalibastard only run next.
That could be interesting. During the run I would have to get enough BAR to farm for it or something like that.
Please never stop making borderlands content. Currently my favorite channel om UA-cam
2:31 I'm sorry but what is even going on?
"Eh don't worry about that kiddo, lets get the moonshot controls working"
I used to DESPISE this game, but in the past 3 yrs I’ve grown to actually like it more. It’s like fine tier for me now, but I really wish the game got all of its dlcs, because the claptastic voyage dlc is like 50% of the reason I even would play the game. And better farms and endgame could actually make this game amazing and it’s sad it ended up the way that it did.
Also “clap his cheeks ‘til he exploded” is 100% an innuendo and you can’t tell me it ain’t gasmask 🙂 I’m watching you 🙂
I can't imagine how painfully it would be if he did the claptastic dlc
If any of you are wondering the pixel character on the thumbnail is Isaac from The Binding Of Isaac
Referring to TPS as Borderlands 2 dlc got my sub
this man really out here asking the real questions
Earned a sub my dude love the content
Can you beat bl3 with only the Hunter, The hunted and The huntress
In contrast to BL2, do you think it would work to do a Grog Nozzle playthrough only for borderlands 2? Would that be challenging enough for you signature masochistic game style?
The grog would make death difficult with the healing, but it's also doesn't really do any damage... It would be like your funny sketch in the Captain Blade. "I shoot the enemies; we both die." It would be like "I shoot the enemies; and neither of us die."
I have some fun stuff planned for a grog nozzle only run eventually!
4:24 looks like we found face mcshooty's cousin
ATHENA MELEE ONLY PLAYTHROUGH! ... whenever possible anyway
This would have been easier health wise if you chose jack because he has health regen
With the right setup he basically cannot be killed
Melee Jack sounds awful for the beginning, not sure how the DPS with only one probe would be, and the clone action skill seems like it would do all the work. Your probably right it might be easier but I think Nisha brought a good ratio of pros and cons.
@@LilGasmask You could use a glitch with his melee override and activate clones at the same time to have permanent lazer wrists till you got the probe
I think you should have used claptrap as he has a good nova build that the probe can be useful with
Idk the melee portion at the beginning might have been tough. Also duel wielding the probes felt cool.
@@LilGasmask Clap also has the strongest melee build in the game.
Love your videps my man, hope to see more.
Presequel with only the boxxy gun
Woah wtf yore not joking under 200 subs holy shit man good vid you are going places
7:47 I didn't even know that was an attack torks could do.
Finish BL3 with only the big succ
So I just realized I never played this game, but RedBelly is a pretty obvious reference to Ned Kelly.
I Might have to look that up interesting.
I feel the game aged well as heck it’s one of my favorites just because of how unique and fun it feels I try my best to look at it more like fam service I mean playing jack, claptrap, Athena, wilhelm. Having a whole dlc dedicated to claptrap. Heck playing Athena with a gunless run is the most fun I ever had playing borderlands.
Man I forgot what it was like during year 1 BSE… before the stinky era
BSE 😂
The Pickle Rick joke was funnier than the entire Pre-Sequel
I can't believe you hating on TPS like this. Its my favorite Borderlands game! Timothy and Nisha are so much fun to play as and I just love bouncing and butt slamming around. And I actually like the story and setting. But I'm not very much into farming, but I can see how the lack of farmable bosses is a problem for some people. I don't even know what the loot it called unless its in a LilGasmask video lol.
I can't even beat TPS normally due to my Handsome Collection freezing and crashing all the time near the end.
Yeah I think my game crashed two or three times during this run but I didn’t lose Too much progress because of it
I love this game. It can be annoying and insanely difficult at times, but damn do I love this game
If you’re a masochist you should do a collab with senza
Drinking game: drink 1/3 of a shot for each innuendo (not an entire shot because i don't want anyone to die)
THERES MY LILGASMASK BOIIIIII
That spaghetti line hits different after the Rick and morty episode about spaghetti.
A actually pretty liked the Presequal, especially the ClapTrap DLC^^ I still I only have 28 hours in it (for reference, BL2: 258h, BL3: 237h) and I kinda forgot about this weapon ;P
also: for better innuendos, I think you should have a probe which is one level under your level ;P
Missed opportunity DANGIT! XD
I miss this game, i was only able to reach uvhm without knowing how to farm legendaries until I got bl2
Yeah farming legendarys in TPS is wierd because there aren’t a lot of designated drop locations. Make the grinder the main way to farm legendaries.
@@LilGasmask its possible to use one legendary and 2 purples to make a legendary right?
Yeah. The purple determines what kinda gun it will be. Pistol = pistol etc.
for your second video this is pretty high quality. id personally like the length to be longer but i feel like that's more of a: i like paying attention to longer things thing
TPS has the best initial playthrough in the franchise and a top 2 DLC. I will die on this hill
I doubt this run is even possible on other characters.
Yeah it would be really tough.
Claptrap would be possible, if his actions skill was allowed... Maybe
Claptrap has an action skill that could theoretically do it alone so if I did do it as Claptrap I would prolly not use some of the action skills if I could to make it fair.
@@LilGasmask ah
Ive watched all your videos and subbed
Know this is a fairly old video but rewatching it and man, your content is just the best
❤️
RedBelly is one of the toughest bosses in the game for Nisha since you don't have any way to activate kill skills... unless you leave enemies behind and toss a few homin Bonus Package nades toward the door to proc kill skills while entering the arena.
I use this same tech to speedkill Iwajira in 4 seconds with the Fridgia two fer Luck Cannon combo.
great stuff mate, GG!!
Might sound stupid but k really enjoy your content I watched all of your vids atleast 5 times idk why but they are just so chill! Keep up the good work!
🥰
You make sniffing crack like the pre sequel look safe
I subbed couse I miss people doing challenge runs
Tf was that cursed conversation that someone was having in that background at the end? Something about naked bodies??
lmao I was waiting for someone to ask. That was Alyssa talking Rust XD
@@LilGasmask oh 😂
Mate, you misspelled Sequel. Great vid btw
cool dude right here ^ thanks for the heads up mate!
Another Entertaining video! What have I been missing
The only thing I don’t 100% agree on. I loved the pre-sequel for its story alone. Maps are repetitive. The only vault Hunter that interested me was Aurelia and only because I love Cryo. But I love the story
Something I realized. You always see retrospective videos talking about what went wrong with what game. Like how Mass Effect Andromeda is still used as an example of a bad game. I don't think I have seen a video on what 2K Australia did wrong with BTPS. I've seen plenty on what went wrong with BL3. But that's it.
Honestly I like TPS but it felt more like a DLC for Borderlands 2. I think most of the gripe comes from lack of endgame content and the new stuff they introduced was a little lack luster. I thought the story was fine.
@@LilGasmask Yeah, I feel that was the issue for most. It felt like DLC. Most of the guns from BL2 were reused in TPS.
While I think the story was better, I don't enjoy replaying it over and over again. Same issue as with BL3.
I do remember that there was a leak some years back. That there was a DLC planned that got canned due to the low sales or low playerbase. But was gonna be on a Space Cruise ship. Does suck that was all we got.
@@LilGasmask from what i understand it was originally going to be DLC for 2 but the higher ups liked the direction it was goin and figured they could milk a full price game plus DLCs from it. honestly we got a great story out if it so i can't really complain but i get why people were pissed about it. all that said its still better than 3
@@LilGasmask It's pretty much the same story as Fallout:New Vegas, Batman: Arkham Origins and Saint's Row 4 where it was popular series got new installments that reused much of the assets of previous titles. Tiny Tina's wonderlands is doing pretty much the same thing.
@@exilestudios9546 Kind of. The reason we got the headhunter packs was that Gearbox was running out of memory for full on expansions like the previous DLC too. So instead Take Two asked Gearbox to work with 2K Australia which did the bulk of the development on The Pre-Sequel. IIRC the only Borderlands 2 DLC that Gearbox didn't outsource the bulk of the development on was Assault on Dragon Keep.
thought you had like 200k subs great work on the video edited professionally
Yeah, I remember that melee space psucho phasing through that door in that map!
Maaaaan I missed like 3 innuendos!
I love challenge channels for video games like this one
nah presequel is perfect
Honestly surprised that "precision slamming" wasn't counted as an innuendo lol.
Lmao I missed a few
cool run!
This is actually my favorite of the borderlands games personally I really like the others but this was my shit fr
So many unaccounted for innuendoes
I’ve only played as claptrap a little, Athena a little, and a full play through as jack’s double
I did not know she could dual wield pistols. I looked into her skill tree. I will be playing her next time I play TPS lol. If you have any suggestions for like, optimal jakobs pistols to farm for, I’m all ears
Look up how to get the luck cannon, she’s really good with that one. 🙂
New sub!, Love your content reminds me of dante ravioli esc not to compare you, just reminde me of him alot.
Bro keep on making these videos
Can you beat borderlands 2 with only the starting pistol
pre-sequel takes a phat dump on every other borderlands game, besides 2
You missed an innuendo check around 13:00
I missed like 3 lmao
Really lucky they didn't switch the crit spot for this gun.
Omg that would have been such a good gimmick
@@LilGasmask he cares, he reads his comments from three year old videos. He cares.
7:58 put the stinky on em
would love to see a claptastic voyage challenge run, i ran out of money trying to kill the stupid helios form -.-
Can you beat New tales from the borderlands without wanting to strap yourself to a rocket?
BL:TPS has done more for me than BL3 ever will.
I laughed during the TPS story. I was actually amazed at the twist halfway through.
The combat is BL2 but with lasers and butt slamming.
Claptrap DLC is better than most of BL3's DLC.
It's got faults for sure but TPS was far more enjoyable than BL3 to me.
2:27 huh that's ironic as I had just watched your nukem video before this
New sub + I love your borderlands content keep it up 👍
‘Put the probey on em
can you imagine if moxxi voiced this?
Lol you're funny af dude keep it up
Important question: What color underwear do you think Tannis wears and why?
Pink. Watch the Tannis cutscene in BL2 you’ll see them in the background but in the actual game they’re not there. Buddy I have had the hots for her so this is why I know this 😅
@@LilGasmask now we are talking!!!!!! I didn’t know that they existed, so that throws out my theory of their color
Tell me your theory anyway CD
XD*
@@LilGasmask I have lots of ideas…and art. We should talk ;)
I like tps, just play on the community patch
16:25 somebody writes the lyrics for ram ranch 2 in the background
Aside from some of the dumb quests this is a pretty good game. The Felicity segment is....not a high point and the scientist quests absolutely sucked ass but other than that it was pretty solid.
I just wish it had more content
JUST SUBBED FOR YOU BRO
TIL the probe can come in other elements i thought it was locked to fire because kraggons resist fire
I think if you do it early game it’s fire only, I think shock and corrosive only come after like level 11 or something but not sure
So, if I'm not mistaken, the Probe is just the Grog Nozzle without the healing
It’s got 3% healing instead of 60% doesn’t do drink effect, and can come in all elements except cryo cus it’s bugged. :)
@@LilGasmask Ah. Ok
0/10 to many inudoues for my virgin ears jk 10/10 amazing entertainment
what about can you beat borderlands 2 with only the potent wunderlust?
That challenge is going to be a sub goal or something XD. maybe at…..100k subs XD
@@LilGasmask yea that challenge is going to suck really badly