I take exception to the "Fact" that Msgt Gordon and SFC Shughart "Failed". Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant is alive to this day because of those two men's sacrifice and dedication to their teammates.
“These two men” have names. SFC Randy Shughart and MSG Gary Gordon. And I would not call it a fail at all as CWO4 Mike Durant is alive because of their sacrifice.
Shughart and Gordon requested permission three times before they were allowed to insert. They knew they were likely going to their deaths but were willing to do so to save the life of a brother soldier. They were both awarded the Medal of Honor, and deservedly so. How many of the critics have that kind of courage? ...I didn't think so.
@@stewban007 The pilots Mike Durant & Ray Frank survived the crash alongside the two crew chiefs Tommy Field and Bill Cleveland. Frank, Cleveland, and Field died after the Somali's overran the crash site along with Sergeant 1st Class, Randy Shughart and Master Sergeant, Gary Gordon while Mike Durant was taken as a hostage and was held captive for 11 days before being returned. The footage on the news of bodies being dragged down the streets of Mogadishu were the bodies of the Super 6-4 crew and their defenders. The movie depicts that only Durant survived the crash but his book In The Company of Heroes which is about his experience mentions all 4 being alive, just varying injuries from the impact of the crash.
they where supposed to kill 1 man They killed hundreds, civilians, peace talkers And got themselves killed in the crossfire It was a complete failure on top of utter incompetence
Really weird focus here. From the "fact vs fiction" title I would have expected some analysis about the accurate portrayal of the military engagement and tactics used in real life vs the movie. Instead I got a "this type of sunglasses was not available in 1993", which feels really irrelevant and shallow. That's not really "fact vs fiction", but more like minor goofs you can find in any type of movie.
Anachronisms are hardly fact vs fiction i agree. So what if a movie set in the 20th century uses an m4 instead of a car15 or some other carbine. I mean its annoying.
I mean does it really matter that much if the tactics they used back then because i think a movie like that trying to show you what it was like would've at least gotten that right
Here some actual fun fact about the real Blackhawk down. 1. They did not lose just 2 Blackhawk, they actually lost 5 Blackhawk, they only account super 61 and 64 because they crash in the battle. Other three Blackhawk managed to land away from the battle after getting hit with rockets. 2. MOH Gary Gordon and MOH Randy Shughart, flew in Super 62 providing sniper cover for the down Super 64, requested multiple times to be inserted but was denied due to the fact that they already lost two Blackhawks. Just after they’re request was approved, Super 62 actually hovered over Super 64 and providing cover with the mini gun for Gordon and Shughart, a RPG hit the under belly of the Super 62, causing Super 62 to fly back to the airfield, barely almost making it back. 3. Not depicted in this video but the call sign *Star 4-1* were the two original pilots in the little birds in the film, that was actually at the Battle of Mogadishu .
Weren’t Shughart and Gordon aboard Super Six 8? There are some other interesting things to add that the movie changed, so basically fun fiction, to contrast with the fun facts: 1. Hoot and Sanderson, the two badass Deltas, are not entirely real characters but based on real Delta members, the names are ficticious though. 2. Grimes, the ranger who tags along with Sanderson, is also a fictional name, based on a real ranger. 3. Doc Schmid, who tries to save the private shot in the leg, was actually a Delta medic IRL, although in the movie he is portrayed as a Ranger. 4. Apparently, the africans who acted as somalis speak an entirely different language that is very distinct from what actual Somalis speak. 5. The Pakis and Malays complained after the movie was released that they were severely undercredited for going into the city to rescue the americans.
no, Super 6-8 was the Combat Search And Rescue helicopter that inserted Delta and Air Force medics as well as a team of Rangers and an Air Force Combat Controller into the 6-1 crash site. Gary and Randy were aboard Super 6-2 as depicted, but a third Delta sniper, Brad Halling, is omitted from the film. He actually took ocer the right side minigun after the crew chief manning it was wounded. While providing air cover for Gary and Randy, Super 6-2 was struck by an RPG between the copilot's door and the minigun. Brad lost half of his left leg in the explosion. While Hoot and Sanderson ARE amalgoms of real Delta Operators, Norm "Hoot" Hooten was one of them. Paul Howe was the basis for Sanderson but his interaction with Grimes about the Ranger's injured foot actually happened with Air Force Pararescueman Tim Wilkinson in a small house across the road from the first crash. The actions of Delta Operator John "Mace" Macejunas were also worked into Hoot.
The cat that made this is a shitbird probably. He posted 19 American deaths when there was only 18 also Sgt Pilla was asst gunner and sitting rear passenger and shot the somali that tried to kill the .50 gunner
That’s where I stopped watching this bullshit. I’m not interested in patriotic propaganda but “actually” those men did give their lives and one man is still on this earth (likely) because their sacrifice... so fuck you they “failed”
Josh was actually a Rear Admiral in the army at 20 years of age only to join the Coast Guard Spec ops community and promted to 1st sgt in tge 75th ranger reg
Not so sure about Pilla being on the .50, in the book it states he was a 60 gunner, sitting in a rear passenger seat, assisting the .50 gunner. And Pilla was struck in the head by a burst of rifle fire, not in the neck, by one shot, like in the movie. And another inaccurate part was that Super 61 crashed in a small alleyway, up against a small wall, not a large intersection as shown in the movie.
And they went down knowing they would most likely die in the process. That's why the CO made them confirm personally they they 'understood what they were asking for.' Pretty much a sure death. But that's the Delta guys for you....and both were awarded Medals of Honor for it.
They didn't fail, they knew what they were going into and they saved the pilots life. A lot of the facts that you have here are also really obvious, if they make a movie based on a historical event, then they will always get things like the callsign of the helicopter correct.
This event was the reason that the USS Inchon was sent to the area along with the US Marines and her full amphibious battle group. It was something that I personally can not forget. I do know that this video was for a history class and made in 2017. But it is something that had an impact on quite a large number of people on many sides. Those of us who are still alive today will not forget and hope that it is remembered so that we may avoid such things in the future.
With all the REAL SNAFUS that took place and was not in the movie. I get to hear about some Oakleys and a softback book that was wrong in the movie WOW way to point out the little useless shit the movie got WRONG.
Pilla was not shot while in the 50 according to Jeff Streucker he saw a Somali who was aiming at the real gunner Paulson then the Somali saw Pilla looking at him so then they both shot eachother dead.
Sgt pilla was not on a 50.there's an interview of the gunner that was in the humvee Dominick got killed in.Pilla actually argued with his command to keep the back half of the trunk to the humvee off, in humvees you can only stick your gun out the windows that roll down slightly, so he thought he could provide better fire support by keeping the humvee backside open, Dominick was killed from his position in the back of the humvee not in the gunner. His teammates said a guy came running up with a ak, I think at this point the convoy stopped. But Dominick an the guy both shot an killed each other at the same time
A lot of facts here so I’ll add one. I’m pretty sure schmid the medic was actually a delta medic and he helped Blackburn when he fell. The movie shows schmid as a ranger.
@@Jjosh9424 They wanted to rescue the pilot, but only got themselves and plenty Somalis killed ... and the pilot got captured and was held hostage, anyway. I think it's fair to say they "failed" at least to some degree.
The biggest fiction is - they omitted the true story how US soldiers got away alive at the end. It was Pakistan and Malaysian armies who actually Present not far from the two crash sites. Pakistan Army leading the US Rangers QRF and, with the help of effective speculative fire, reached the crash site without any loss. Two of the tanks took position on the shoulders of the narrow street, where entrapped Rangers were fighting for their lives inside a building, whilst the other team took position on road crossings on either side of this street. US Rangers dismounted and went into the street while the Pakistani tanks kept on exchanging fire with the Somalis, preventing their efforts to get into the same street. Rangers started coming out of the narrow street and started mounting the APCs, but owing to some wrong calculation of APCs, it became difficult to accommodate everyone. Meanwhile, Somalis were reorganizing to quell efforts of rescue force; and started bringing heavy fire at the place where APCs were parked. Therefore, remainder US personnel were accommodated in tanks and APCs of Pak Army. Even still some were left and had to run with the cover for Pakistani APC’s, this is what’s called Mogadishu Mile. Troops mainly from 75th Ranger Regiment was a part of Mogadishu Mile
Other than the Oakley sunglasses, I don't think Hoot being in the marketplace was fiction. Maybe Hoot the character/person might be fiction, but someone like him was probably there. Someone on Quora explains: "While the film definitely wasn’t an accurate depiction of the events surrounding the Battle of Mogadishu, that particular scene wasn’t inaccurate itself. There were numerous arms dealers, mercenaries, reporters, and intelligence operatives in the city and the country at that time so while Hoot might have appeared to be “American” (the actor who portrays him, Eric Bana is Australian) he wouldn’t have stood out too prominently from the many other Westerners in the city. Additionally, kidnapping foreigners only came later when the Somali militias and later Al-Shabaab (A Muslim extremist group based mostly in Somalia) discovered how lucrative it could be. At the time of the film’s setting, foreigners freely wandered around, although some might have had armed security (or been armed themselves) to prevent crimes like street robberies and assaults. Given Hoot’s size and the fact that he was probably armed, most Somalis probably steered clear of him as they didn’t need the “hassles”. Finally, the Somalis, despite their depiction in the film, aren’t stupid people. They probably knew who Hoot was, and what he was doing, and they were surveilling him while he was watching them. So long as he didn’t interfere in their ongoing operations, they had no reason to detain him or try to kidnap him. They watched him, watching them, and that was the extent of things. Again there are a number of unrealistic scenes in the film, but that wasn’t one of them."
They haven't failed, they died saving lives of those men in the most horrifying battles where no ordinary men would dare to go to, these men were brave exceptional courageous hearts and died with exceptional courage and hearts.
1:48 Matt never saw him fall either, at least from what I've heard, he only saw him grapple down and the person who was the last to descend and unintentionally stepped on him was the field medic Marc Good and they radioed Schmid to help him. 3:58 The part where they met and talked with 64 pilot/survivor, Mike Durant, was fiction actually. In real life they never talked to him, instead they only took position on a hill and killed dozens of militias.
What do you mean the Deltas never talked to Durant ? I remember seeing a video of the real Durant saying that the last delta to stay alive gave the others gun to him and said "good luck" because he was the last one and knew he was good as dead.
Your right about 1:48 Matt never saw him fall in fact when he got down there he thought Blackburn had been shot , and the team medic said Blackburn had lost controll and fell not from an RPG he just fell.
My problem with the movie is that it made rangers out to be useless idiots instead of elite special operation shock troops capable of operating in a Commando ranging capacity.
They aren't idiots at all...but alot of them havent seen combat like that ever and to be thrown into a situation like that, im sure alot of them didnt react well. I saw a interview of a ranger saying that a bunch of rangers were scared and frozen but the delta guys were all about it and were taking charge (obviously delta guys would) and that helped alot of other rangers gain confidence.
Unknown TradeMark the fact of the matter is that most of the Somali militiamen had seen way more combat than both the US army rangers or Delta Force. Without the massive air support the US forces had and without the assistance from Pakistani and Malaysian UN forces the entire US force would have been overrun and killed or captured, ie annihilated. They were completely cutoff and outnumbered. USA was fortunate to only lose the 18.
4:37 if you read the book, this scene actually happened. Allthough the leader got shot from a minigun not long time after that and spend (over) 3 months in hospital.
4 a history class that was a not enough and b the wrong priorities. many things in this movie are there for dramatic effect ( e.g. lighting the enemy position 4 the littlebirde (instead of the own position or the destruction of the technical ) . no history teacher cares about grisham books
I mean the stuff pointed out wasn't really like major things or details plus most people who watch this film do a little research about the actual event of course they will add things in the movie to make it more dramatic
seydiga umada muslimiinta yes, they go all together BUT, the pakistani soldier stop at a street and said they can’t go because they don’t have enough tech for night mode i think and then the Malaysian soldier take over from there. You can even search “black hawk down malaysia” and see them(malaysian armies) talking about the operation. There’s three armies involved, the malaysian, pakistani and america. The us armies have tried three times to go saved their people but failed then there come the malaysian armies. I just wanna say here, the pakistani armies refused to go because they don’t have the night tech or smt like that.
@@Anastasia-ec1vh I'm malaysian. But pakistani did help on the miles. Malaysia lead the convoy and suddenly two of malaysian apc got caught in a shooting that seperates them from the rest of the convoy. One died. Others survived because usa delta force operator and 10th mountain division come to help. One American soldier died helping out severely injured malaysian. To be precise, USA did fail three times. Only because those three times they came in small numbers. The successful convoy is much larger. 12 helicopter, 4 spy plane, 16 humvees, several foot soldiers and 3 trucks from USA, 28 malaysian apc, 4 tanks, and several foot soldiers of Pakistan. Malaysia lead into mogadishu, USA provide backup and do most of the kill. And pakistani provide a secure place. There is no room for the rescued soldiers in those vehicles. So they walked. Pakistan did help during mogadishu miles that occur during the day. Their tanks can operate on days. 18 USA, 1 Malaysia, 1 Pakistan died
Afiq Duddin WOWWW very detailed. Sorry, i tried to search as many as i can but there’s no information this detailed. Thank you. Btw I’m just trying to say at least give some credit to Malaysia’s soldiers. That’s the least that they can do. Btw I’m very thankful to find your detailed comment ✌🏻
@@Anastasia-ec1vh hahaha, no problem. They should get credited. 2001 film black hawk down seriously downplayed Malaysia and Pakistan role in the battle
Unless your friends dad is Michael Durant, then he wasn’t in the crash of Super 64. Durant was the only survivor. The two crew chiefs died on impact, there’s speculation with Tommy field and Raymond Frank (the co-pilot) as whether they really died on impact of the helicopter as said in Durants book “In the company of heroes”. Regardless the only single person to survive anything that happened at the 64 crash site was the pilot Michael Durant.
@@Metalstringman05 do you remember any information on the crew of the helicopter or the role of the helicopter? I could possibly help you find out what crash he was in and where it crashed or even the role of the chopper maybe.
WHO CARES IF THERE IS SOME FICTION MY GOD EVERY MOVIE THAT IS TRUE LIFE IS GONNA HAVE SOME FICTION GEEZ IT IS NOT GONNA BE 100% TO THE TEE...TO GET THAT DEEP INTO THINGS LIKE THAT IS PURE BOREDNESS LMFAO
I don't believe they were shot down by RPG's. If so the pilots behaved like coyboys letting there aircraft just sit there like sitting ducks. I believe it was anti aircraft missile intel did not take into account
Tal Alpern I've been shot at by rpgs, they move fast as hell. They hit before you even know what happened. A city full of them? Good luck not getting tagged.
Ive seen RPGs in action myself. Taking down helicopter with them is something that is hard for me to believe unless the blk hawks were shot down ground level. Im betting on Strella anti air missiles
Tal Alpern from what I remember, they estimated that 400 hundred RPG were fired off at the choppers. The movie makes it look like they had amazing aim, meanwhile they actually relied on numbers being able to eventually hit a chopper.
Fact: Super 6-1 is the callsign for Super 6-1
Fiction: Callsign for Super 6-1 didn't had a hyphen
I take exception to the "Fact" that Msgt Gordon and SFC Shughart "Failed". Chief Warrant Officer Michael Durant is alive to this day because of those two men's sacrifice and dedication to their teammates.
“These two men” have names. SFC Randy Shughart and MSG Gary Gordon. And I would not call it a fail at all as CWO4 Mike Durant is alive because of their sacrifice.
Shughart and Gordon requested permission three times before they were allowed to insert. They knew they were likely going to their deaths but were willing to do so to save the life of a brother soldier. They were both awarded the Medal of Honor, and deservedly so. How many of the critics have that kind of courage? ...I didn't think so.
Those two fought and died like heroes. What about rest of the Super 64 crew? Were they all killed in the crash?
@@stewban007 i believe one of the crew chiefs survived, although not for long, and the rest perished upon impact
@@stewban007 The pilots Mike Durant & Ray Frank survived the crash alongside the two crew chiefs Tommy Field and Bill Cleveland. Frank, Cleveland, and Field died after the Somali's overran the crash site along with Sergeant 1st Class, Randy Shughart and Master Sergeant, Gary Gordon while Mike Durant was taken as a hostage and was held captive for 11 days before being returned. The footage on the news of bodies being dragged down the streets of Mogadishu were the bodies of the Super 6-4 crew and their defenders.
The movie depicts that only Durant survived the crash but his book In The Company of Heroes which is about his experience mentions all 4 being alive, just varying injuries from the impact of the crash.
they where supposed to kill 1 man
They killed hundreds, civilians, peace talkers And got themselves killed in the crossfire
It was a complete failure on top of utter incompetence
Really weird focus here. From the "fact vs fiction" title I would have expected some analysis about the accurate portrayal of the military engagement and tactics used in real life vs the movie. Instead I got a "this type of sunglasses was not available in 1993", which feels really irrelevant and shallow. That's not really "fact vs fiction", but more like minor goofs you can find in any type of movie.
Anachronisms are hardly fact vs fiction i agree. So what if a movie set in the 20th century uses an m4 instead of a car15 or some other carbine. I mean its annoying.
Yeah, with catches like that, I almost expected one fact to be that actor X was right handed but the person he portrayed was left handed. 🙄
I ceased watching the video after the sunglasses clip.
I mean does it really matter that much if the tactics they used back then because i think a movie like that trying to show you what it was like would've at least gotten that right
Totally agree. This video is just bullshit
Here some actual fun fact about the real Blackhawk down.
1. They did not lose just 2 Blackhawk, they actually lost 5 Blackhawk, they only account super 61 and 64 because they crash in the battle. Other three Blackhawk managed to land away from the battle after getting hit with rockets.
2. MOH Gary Gordon and MOH Randy Shughart, flew in Super 62 providing sniper cover for the down Super 64, requested multiple times to be inserted but was denied due to the fact that they already lost two Blackhawks. Just after they’re request was approved, Super 62 actually hovered over Super 64 and providing cover with the mini gun for Gordon and Shughart, a RPG hit the under belly of the Super 62, causing Super 62 to fly back to the airfield, barely almost making it back.
3. Not depicted in this video but the call sign *Star 4-1* were the two original pilots in the little birds in the film, that was actually at the Battle of Mogadishu .
Weren’t Shughart and Gordon aboard Super Six 8? There are some other interesting things to add that the movie changed, so basically fun fiction, to contrast with the fun facts:
1. Hoot and Sanderson, the two badass Deltas, are not entirely real characters but based on real Delta members, the names are ficticious though.
2. Grimes, the ranger who tags along with Sanderson, is also a fictional name, based on a real ranger.
3. Doc Schmid, who tries to save the private shot in the leg, was actually a Delta medic IRL, although in the movie he is portrayed as a Ranger.
4. Apparently, the africans who acted as somalis speak an entirely different language that is very distinct from what actual Somalis speak.
5. The Pakis and Malays complained after the movie was released that they were severely undercredited for going into the city to rescue the americans.
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no, Super 6-8 was the Combat Search And Rescue helicopter that inserted Delta and Air Force medics as well as a team of Rangers and an Air Force Combat Controller into the 6-1 crash site. Gary and Randy were aboard Super 6-2 as depicted, but a third Delta sniper, Brad Halling, is omitted from the film. He actually took ocer the right side minigun after the crew chief manning it was wounded. While providing air cover for Gary and Randy, Super 6-2 was struck by an RPG between the copilot's door and the minigun. Brad lost half of his left leg in the explosion.
While Hoot and Sanderson ARE amalgoms of real Delta Operators, Norm "Hoot" Hooten was one of them. Paul Howe was the basis for Sanderson but his interaction with Grimes about the Ranger's injured foot actually happened with Air Force Pararescueman Tim Wilkinson in a small house across the road from the first crash. The actions of Delta Operator John "Mace" Macejunas were also worked into Hoot.
What do you mean failed. Those two men went to work with that m14 to save his life. I dont care why we were there they are some badass heroes.
The cat that made this is a shitbird probably. He posted 19 American deaths when there was only 18 also Sgt Pilla was asst gunner and sitting rear passenger and shot the somali that tried to kill the .50 gunner
Failed? They tried and both were killed and awarded the medal of honor he left that out
That’s where I stopped watching this bullshit. I’m not interested in patriotic propaganda but “actually” those men did give their lives and one man is still on this earth (likely) because their sacrifice... so fuck you they “failed”
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Fiction: Josh Hartnett was not an actual Army Ranger. Fact: this video is a tremendous waste of time
Josh was actually a Rear Admiral in the army at 20 years of age only to join the Coast Guard Spec ops community and promted to 1st sgt in tge 75th ranger reg
Not so sure about Pilla being on the .50, in the book it states he was a 60 gunner, sitting in a rear passenger seat, assisting the .50 gunner. And Pilla was struck in the head by a burst of rifle fire, not in the neck, by one shot, like in the movie.
And another inaccurate part was that Super 61 crashed in a small alleyway, up against a small wall, not a large intersection as shown in the movie.
Fact: The city of Mogadishu is actually where the battle of Mogadishu took place
I'm pretty sure Sgt.Pilla was in the back seat on the passenger side when he was shot in the head.
Yeah, I watched an inteview with Jeff Struecker where he said that Pilla was firing his rifle through the window when he was killed.
Yep, Sgt. Ruiz was killed manning a .50 cal., not Pilla.
So that's why it says *both saw each other and fired at the same time,both where killed."
Correct
SGT. Dominick Pilla was in the humvee behind Streuker's when he was killed.
2:22 Sgt. Pillar wasn't on the 50. Cal he was firing his rifle out of a window of the Humvees and even killed the guy that killed him.
4:00 they didn't failed, they "saved" the pilot's life before he was captured.
And they went down knowing they would most likely die in the process. That's why the CO made them confirm personally they they 'understood what they were asking for.'
Pretty much a sure death. But that's the Delta guys for you....and both were awarded Medals of Honor for it.
PRX “these two men” he said in the video .. these heroes are one of the bravest men ever existed
They didn't fail, they knew what they were going into and they saved the pilots life. A lot of the facts that you have here are also really obvious, if they make a movie based on a historical event, then they will always get things like the callsign of the helicopter correct.
Here’s a fact: PFC Richard Kowalewski was actually impaled by an RPG Missile that fired toward him, that ended up costing him his life.
This event was the reason that the USS Inchon was sent to the area along with the US Marines and her full amphibious battle group. It was something that I personally can not forget. I do know that this video was for a history class and made in 2017. But it is something that had an impact on quite a large number of people on many sides. Those of us who are still alive today will not forget and hope that it is remembered so that we may avoid such things in the future.
Thanks for the video captain obvious
You forgot the mile run, where they really did not run the whole city to reach the stadium, the convoy was actually waiting for them at the main road.
With all the REAL SNAFUS that took place and was not in the movie. I get to hear about some Oakleys and a softback book that was wrong in the movie WOW way to point out the little useless shit the movie got WRONG.
Pilla was not shot while in the 50 according to Jeff Streucker he saw a Somali who was aiming at the real gunner Paulson then the Somali saw Pilla looking at him so then they both shot eachother dead.
Sgt pilla was not on a 50.there's an interview of the gunner that was in the humvee Dominick got killed in.Pilla actually argued with his command to keep the back half of the trunk to the humvee off, in humvees you can only stick your gun out the windows that roll down slightly, so he thought he could provide better fire support by keeping the humvee backside open, Dominick was killed from his position in the back of the humvee not in the gunner. His teammates said a guy came running up with a ak, I think at this point the convoy stopped. But Dominick an the guy both shot an killed each other at the same time
A lot of facts here so I’ll add one. I’m pretty sure schmid the medic was actually a delta medic and he helped Blackburn when he fell. The movie shows schmid as a ranger.
the fact is that the malaysian army is willing to risk their lives to save the us army where at that time the pakistani army turned back
4:03 I wouldn't call it a "fail". wtf?
SwissMarksman ya they protected the survivors they did what they were supposed to do lol it’s wasn’t a fail at all not even close
Actually how is it a fail if the pilot survived
@@Jjosh9424 They wanted to rescue the pilot, but only got themselves and plenty Somalis killed ... and the pilot got captured and was held hostage, anyway. I think it's fair to say they "failed" at least to some degree.
@Remember the legend Maybe so, but that's still a rescue attempt, isn't it? And it still failed.
arparso they saved mike durants life how was it a fail?
The biggest fiction is - they omitted the true story how US soldiers got away alive at the end.
It was Pakistan and Malaysian armies who actually Present not far from the two crash sites.
Pakistan Army leading the US Rangers QRF and, with the help of effective speculative fire, reached the crash site without any loss. Two of the tanks took position on the shoulders of the narrow street, where entrapped Rangers were fighting for their lives inside a building, whilst the other team took position on road crossings on either side of this street.
US Rangers dismounted and went into the street while the Pakistani tanks kept on exchanging fire with the Somalis, preventing their efforts to get into the same street.
Rangers started coming out of the narrow street and started mounting the APCs, but owing to some wrong calculation of APCs, it became difficult to accommodate everyone.
Meanwhile, Somalis were reorganizing to quell efforts of rescue force; and started bringing heavy fire at the place where APCs were parked. Therefore, remainder US personnel were accommodated in tanks and APCs of Pak Army.
Even still some were left and had to run with the cover for Pakistani APC’s, this is what’s called Mogadishu Mile. Troops mainly from 75th Ranger Regiment was a part of Mogadishu Mile
Yep...by asking American troops to climb the back of their APVs. This was what led to the famous "Mogadishu Mile'
Other than the Oakley sunglasses, I don't think Hoot being in the marketplace was fiction. Maybe Hoot the character/person might be fiction, but someone like him was probably there.
Someone on Quora explains:
"While the film definitely wasn’t an accurate depiction of the events surrounding the Battle of Mogadishu, that particular scene wasn’t inaccurate itself. There were numerous arms dealers, mercenaries, reporters, and intelligence operatives in the city and the country at that time so while Hoot might have appeared to be “American” (the actor who portrays him, Eric Bana is Australian) he wouldn’t have stood out too prominently from the many other Westerners in the city.
Additionally, kidnapping foreigners only came later when the Somali militias and later Al-Shabaab (A Muslim extremist group based mostly in Somalia) discovered how lucrative it could be. At the time of the film’s setting, foreigners freely wandered around, although some might have had armed security (or been armed themselves) to prevent crimes like street robberies and assaults. Given Hoot’s size and the fact that he was probably armed, most Somalis probably steered clear of him as they didn’t need the “hassles”.
Finally, the Somalis, despite their depiction in the film, aren’t stupid people. They probably knew who Hoot was, and what he was doing, and they were surveilling him while he was watching them. So long as he didn’t interfere in their ongoing operations, they had no reason to detain him or try to kidnap him. They watched him, watching them, and that was the extent of things.
Again there are a number of unrealistic scenes in the film, but that wasn’t one of them."
They haven't failed, they died saving lives of those men in the most horrifying battles where no ordinary men would dare to go to, these men were brave exceptional courageous hearts and died with exceptional courage and hearts.
lol you think they made those names up?
I cant imagine being the guy on the .50
Fact: Only Wolcott sit on the co-pilot (left) seat in real event,rest of black hawk pilot (Durant,Goffena,etc.) sit on pilot (right) seat.
I also find it odd that they send a white operator to do a surveillance instead of a black person which is conspicuous at best.
There were supposed to be 3 snipers however the third replaced a crew chief who was wounded
1:48 Matt never saw him fall either, at least from what I've heard, he only saw him grapple down and the person who was the last to descend and unintentionally stepped on him was the field medic Marc Good and they radioed Schmid to help him.
3:58 The part where they met and talked with 64 pilot/survivor, Mike Durant, was fiction actually. In real life they never talked to him, instead they only took position on a hill and killed dozens of militias.
What do you mean the Deltas never talked to Durant ? I remember seeing a video of the real Durant saying that the last delta to stay alive gave the others gun to him and said "good luck" because he was the last one and knew he was good as dead.
Your right about 1:48 Matt never saw him fall in fact when he got down there he thought Blackburn had been shot , and the team medic said Blackburn had lost controll and fell not from an RPG he just fell.
You’re wrong on second part, Gordon got guns out of 64 and gave Durant one before radioing for help
@@rumpwrangler1102 Gordon was shot first that was shugart that did that.
@@Junior-xo6mq you could be right, id have to pull the book out to know.
You would be extremely great in cinema sins
My problem with the movie is that it made rangers out to be useless idiots instead of elite special operation shock troops capable of operating in a Commando ranging capacity.
bighand69, how do the Rangers portray idiots in the film, I must ask?
They aren't idiots at all...but alot of them havent seen combat like that ever and to be thrown into a situation like that, im sure alot of them didnt react well. I saw a interview of a ranger saying that a bunch of rangers were scared and frozen but the delta guys were all about it and were taking charge (obviously delta guys would) and that helped alot of other rangers gain confidence.
Unknown TradeMark the fact of the matter is that most of the Somali militiamen had seen way more combat than both the US army rangers or Delta Force. Without the massive air support the US forces had and without the assistance from Pakistani and Malaysian UN forces the entire US force would have been overrun and killed or captured, ie annihilated.
They were completely cutoff and outnumbered. USA was fortunate to only lose the 18.
4:37 if you read the book, this scene actually happened. Allthough the leader got shot from a minigun not long time after that and spend (over) 3 months in hospital.
What book?
😂😂😂😂 look at this joke the leader died after two years in a clan war
You must be a joy at parties
Fact: Orlando Bloom fell out of a helicopter
Fact: this video was made for a history class and isn't intended to be a popular documentary
Then a "F" then. This video is a "F".
@@peartree8338 fair enough
They didn’t fail.
You failed making this
Bruhhhh
Gordon and shivery did not fail, mike Durant is here because of them, he states in his book they took the blunt side of the mob
Delta boys were known to wear Oakley M-Frames
What's that music ?
music ? pls
I take it you failed this particular assignment?
4 a history class that was a not enough and b the wrong priorities. many things in this movie are there for dramatic effect ( e.g. lighting the enemy position 4 the littlebirde (instead of the own position or the destruction of the technical ) . no history teacher cares about grisham books
How did they really escaped?
Was the pilot that was captured released or rescued?
Rescued pilot is still alive today
I guess rescued because they took him out of the battlefield and just help him and question him I guess
I mean the stuff pointed out wasn't really like major things or details plus most people who watch this film do a little research about the actual event of course they will add things in the movie to make it more dramatic
Where the UN team that save the US army
Yeah, Delta has little needed for heroes
Is the glasses fact really important? Get real man
Malaysian armies saved them. That’s the fact.
No bakistan army save
seydiga umada muslimiinta yes, they go all together BUT, the pakistani soldier stop at a street and said they can’t go because they don’t have enough tech for night mode i think and then the Malaysian soldier take over from there. You can even search “black hawk down malaysia” and see them(malaysian armies) talking about the operation. There’s three armies involved, the malaysian, pakistani and america. The us armies have tried three times to go saved their people but failed then there come the malaysian armies. I just wanna say here, the pakistani armies refused to go because they don’t have the night tech or smt like that.
@@Anastasia-ec1vh I'm malaysian. But pakistani did help on the miles. Malaysia lead the convoy and suddenly two of malaysian apc got caught in a shooting that seperates them from the rest of the convoy. One died. Others survived because usa delta force operator and 10th mountain division come to help. One American soldier died helping out severely injured malaysian. To be precise, USA did fail three times. Only because those three times they came in small numbers. The successful convoy is much larger. 12 helicopter, 4 spy plane, 16 humvees, several foot soldiers and 3 trucks from USA, 28 malaysian apc, 4 tanks, and several foot soldiers of Pakistan. Malaysia lead into mogadishu, USA provide backup and do most of the kill. And pakistani provide a secure place. There is no room for the rescued soldiers in those vehicles. So they walked. Pakistan did help during mogadishu miles that occur during the day. Their tanks can operate on days. 18 USA, 1 Malaysia, 1 Pakistan died
Afiq Duddin WOWWW very detailed. Sorry, i tried to search as many as i can but there’s no information this detailed. Thank you. Btw I’m just trying to say at least give some credit to Malaysia’s soldiers. That’s the least that they can do. Btw I’m very thankful to find your detailed comment ✌🏻
@@Anastasia-ec1vh hahaha, no problem. They should get credited. 2001 film black hawk down seriously downplayed Malaysia and Pakistan role in the battle
18 us soldiers were killed not 19
18 in the actual battle itself but a 19th, Matt Reirson, was killed two days after the initial battle by mortar fire
Let's see the real saver black hawk down. Malbat: Misi Bakara. Malaysian movie. This August 2023. Their war. Our Heroes. 🫡🇲🇾
Sgt. Philla's death
He was shot in the head but it was the top of his head and he killed the somolian who killed him
Source? He was dead instantly I believe.
This is true. watch the other rangers interview
All the stuff that's fact from fiction and you point out some 😎 wth are you serious
wow... this is a classic example of a "no shit sherlock" video
not really
Friends dad was in one of the crashes. I think super 64
Unless your friends dad is Michael Durant, then he wasn’t in the crash of Super 64. Durant was the only survivor. The two crew chiefs died on impact, there’s speculation with Tommy field and Raymond Frank (the co-pilot) as whether they really died on impact of the helicopter as said in Durants book “In the company of heroes”. Regardless the only single person to survive anything that happened at the 64 crash site was the pilot Michael Durant.
@@masonmartin7326 ok, I do know he was In a crash on that day
@@Metalstringman05 do you remember any information on the crew of the helicopter or the role of the helicopter? I could possibly help you find out what crash he was in and where it crashed or even the role of the chopper maybe.
@@masonmartin7326 and it was performing an extraction i think
@@Metalstringman05 do you have any idea what your friends dad did in the military?
هههه 😂😂😂😂
Actually the use of the word actually is quite overused by this video actually!!!
Clinton's fault. I got out a couple months before this happened
WHO CARES IF THERE IS SOME FICTION MY GOD EVERY MOVIE THAT IS TRUE LIFE IS GONNA HAVE SOME FICTION GEEZ IT IS NOT GONNA BE 100% TO THE TEE...TO GET THAT DEEP INTO THINGS LIKE THAT IS PURE BOREDNESS LMFAO
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The black hawk down movie is the bad so bad movieeeeee
This video is some obvious BS man.
I don't believe they were shot down by RPG's. If so the pilots behaved like coyboys letting there aircraft just sit there like sitting ducks. I believe it was anti aircraft missile intel did not take into account
according to the novel black hawk down, the rpgs were rigged with a timer to blow up. that created a flak effect to bring down the helicopters.
You are incorrect. There were dozens-to-hundreds of RPG's and RPG's have 4 second fuses which can quite easily be used to create flak.
Tal Alpern I've been shot at by rpgs, they move fast as hell. They hit before you even know what happened. A city full of them? Good luck not getting tagged.
Ive seen RPGs in action myself. Taking down helicopter with them is something that is hard for me to believe unless the blk hawks were shot down ground level. Im betting on Strella anti air missiles
Tal Alpern from what I remember, they estimated that 400 hundred RPG were fired off at the choppers. The movie makes it look like they had amazing aim, meanwhile they actually relied on numbers being able to eventually hit a chopper.