This is exactly how Thai toddlers learn perfect pronunciation by age 3. by memorizing convoluted tone rules based on consonant classes. You can see they actively spell out each word in their heads before speaking it to make sure they get the tone right 👍
This is the first comment I've ever written on the internet. I have been studying Thai and I take this huge challenge seriously. I'm watching this video daily and slowly I'm making progress. If your having a difficult time try watching this video over and over again. It may work for you...Chok Dee Khrap.
Great use of illustration as it was most helpful. This was the only video I found that didn't just give me the keys to the car (detail the tone rules ) but showed how to apply them all. Thank you so much and thank you for going over the final consansnt sounds. Before I had only seen them written out and was unaware that each represented a final sound. NOW I CAN BEGIN PRACTICING READING THAI
Actually they don't. They can just speak naturally. Most Thai people I know cannot tell me the tone of a word. My girlfriend is used to it now, but needs to use her finger to find out
@@cnxsoft The rule she gaves really helpfull. I write it down as a reference when I doubt about the tone of words. At first I have to check the tone rule a lot but by practise more, I dont need to check the note as often as before. Actually I learn about dead and life syllable which help me in remember the tone rule. If you wanna learn and remember the tone rule, I suggest you to search for "life and dead syllable" and combine with this rule + a liitle practise.
@@darianprotho6622 Yes, I'm using the old Manee Manaa books to learn. I'm level 4 (ป.4) now. The first 3 years are nice to learn as there are audio recodings with transliteration, vocabulary, and translation on the Internet. After, it takes more time, because I have to find the vocabulary I don't know myself, then let my girlfriend read the lessons for me. Not necessarily ideal, because those are old, and some words are not really used anymore. My girlfriend and friend do not know/remember some of the words, even though my girldfriend has a bachelor degree. The most difficult parts are the poems. They are so hard to understand.
Hi! This video is so well explained! I enjoyed it a lot! However, i found a little more "friendly" to learn this rules using the concepts of "live" and "dead" syllables, which saves us some effort in learning how to apply the tone rules in a fastest way. Just my opinion. But I'm still loving this channel!
best tutorial for me. others teach us how to read tone in thai BUT makes us confused because following tone alone makes it sound different. Now i know that we also need to look on what classes they belong. ขอบคุณมากครับ
Something very complicated, very well explained. Thank you. Finishing with a table showing the rules all together would have made the video simply perfect.
The best explanation of thai tones so far! however it would be much better if the given samples of words are authentic words (with meaning) so it can add some vocabularies to us learners...;-)
Your Video is so good and accurate. Although i find it really hard to remember all the rules but i have to say you'd done a really good job explaining them. Thank you so much for making these. :)
this is what i've been looking for! this is a lot to take for my teeny tiny brain but this really helps in understanding the tone rules better, thank you so much!
It's a lot to take in in 13 minutes, but this flow-chart style explanation is the best I've seen! I feel like it could have been simplified a little by explaining live/dead syllables at the beginning, though. Have the tone rule table open in the background while you watch it, everyone; it makes a world of difference!
Hello, very interesting because well explained. I am not learning Thai but I find it interesting how a language works. And this channel seems to explain clearly. Well done :-)
Hi. Please can you explain why 'Gor' (meaning 'also') has a falling tone? 'Gor' has the mai-dtai-kuu symbol above it. As it does not have a tone mark, it must either have a mid or a low tone. Following the tone rules, a falling tone here cannot be a possibility. As it is a live syllable, it surely can only have a mid tone. Thanks
@@jeong-haekim4507 not at all. Listen carefully. The last one increase in tone. Try to mimic and pronounce both longer, you will fund the difference. The one on 12:02 is more likely the high tone. I compare it with other teachers. But I am not sure too although other teachers never pronounce the one in 3:29 as high tone.
I didn't pay much attention at first but yeah the tones are different. I just saw the previous video from the same teacher (lesson#113), and she pronounced some high tones too high even the Thai speakers themselves in the comment don't recognize. lol
Omg after learning the Thai alphabet including the class of each consonant, the next thing is to learn are the tone markers, then the 18 or so tone rules that come with it... how long does it take a foreigner to learn a 2 or 3 letter word whilst having to check all the rules before saying the actual word?? My brain has not been this frazzled in such a long time. Then the other side to it is that Thai people speak so fast that the tones are really hard to distinguish... when does it get easier 🤣🤣
อยู่ (yù) Why it is Low Tone? I don’t understand it. ย is Low Consonant and with Mai Ek, so it should be Falling Tone. Why it become Low Tone? Is that see the อ (Middle Consonant) instant of ย. In this case like อยู่ , which consonant should I see? อ or ย? Can someone explain me? Please!!! _/\_
I know it is 2 years ago..... If there are 2 consecutive consonants, the first one determine the rule ie: อ which is middle class thats why it is low tone with Mai Ek.
Actually it will be helpful if you write it down as a reference. It is really handy as a manual when you need it. It is not complete though, she doesnt explain about double consonant. When there are 2 consecutive consonants the first consonant determine the rule even if the first consonant and the second consonant arent in the same syllable. Her tone rule is easier to remember if you learn about life and dead syllable because some of them can be grouped so you dont have to remember that much.
I been trying to learn Thai for years now. It is very frustrating and makes me wonder who made all these ridicules rules. Surely I can think of a more efficient alphabet to use… strange
She is a great teacher! But yes, extremely complicated!
This is exactly how Thai toddlers learn perfect pronunciation by age 3. by memorizing convoluted tone rules based on consonant classes. You can see they actively spell out each word in their heads before speaking it to make sure they get the tone right 👍
This is the best tone rule explanation I have seen. It makes sense to me now. ขอบคุณนะครับ
I agree I was having a hard time understanding and she explained it very well
This is the first comment I've ever written on the internet. I have been studying Thai and I take this huge challenge seriously. I'm watching this video daily and slowly I'm making progress. If your having a difficult time try watching this video over and over again. It may work for you...Chok Dee Khrap.
Excellent presentation. Clearly categorized. Direct to the points. And your voice is clear. THANK YOU IMMENSELY!
I found this to be a useful summary to bring together all my learning so far. Thank you for the video
I want to cry :(
Very difficult! but i am not surrender yet!
Very intense 13 minutes but I think repeatedly viewing will help this become clearer. Thank you
Great use of illustration as it was most helpful. This was the only video I found that didn't just give me the keys to the car (detail the tone rules ) but showed how to apply them all. Thank you so much and thank you for going over the final consansnt sounds. Before I had only seen them written out and was unaware that each represented a final sound. NOW I CAN BEGIN PRACTICING READING THAI
I have to keep telling myself millions of people understand this....
Actually they don't. They can just speak naturally. Most Thai people I know cannot tell me the tone of a word. My girlfriend is used to it now, but needs to use her finger to find out
@@cnxsoft The rule she gaves really helpfull.
I write it down as a reference when I doubt about the tone of words. At first I have to check the tone rule a lot but by practise more, I dont need to check the note as often as before. Actually I learn about dead and life syllable which help me in remember the tone rule. If you wanna learn and remember the tone rule, I suggest you to search for "life and dead syllable" and combine with this rule + a liitle practise.
@@darianprotho6622 Yes, the video is great. I first watched it around one year ago, and it helped me a lot.
@@cnxlinux 😃 do you still learn Thai now?
@@darianprotho6622 Yes, I'm using the old Manee Manaa books to learn. I'm level 4 (ป.4) now. The first 3 years are nice to learn as there are audio recodings with transliteration, vocabulary, and translation on the Internet. After, it takes more time, because I have to find the vocabulary I don't know myself, then let my girlfriend read the lessons for me. Not necessarily ideal, because those are old, and some words are not really used anymore. My girlfriend and friend do not know/remember some of the words, even though my girldfriend has a bachelor degree. The most difficult parts are the poems. They are so hard to understand.
ขอบคุณมากค่ะพี่ 🤗 the best explanation I have heard! I’ve been trying to grasp this concept foreverrrrr and you’ve definitely helped a lot!
I think I'm going to need to play this over again.
you can ask me too if youre not understand the explaination :)
@Dave. I'm on my twenty seventh time!
yes, it's the best thing to do
Hi! This video is so well explained! I enjoyed it a lot! However, i found a little more "friendly" to learn this rules using the concepts of "live" and "dead" syllables, which saves us some effort in learning how to apply the tone rules in a fastest way. Just my opinion. But I'm still loving this channel!
best tutorial for me. others teach us how to read tone in thai BUT makes us confused because following tone alone makes it sound different. Now i know that we also need to look on what classes they belong. ขอบคุณมากครับ
Something very complicated, very well explained. Thank you. Finishing with a table showing the rules all together would have made the video simply perfect.
There are tables...google find.
This video /class is precious! Well done maam! Now I will learn it
This video was so well explained! Thank you so much!
Thank you for such a wonderful explanation. It is complicated, but I kind of getting a little hang of it. LOL.
really good lesson and explanation, thank U very much :-)
The best explanation of thai tones so far! however it would be much better if the given samples of words are authentic words (with meaning) so it can add some vocabularies to us learners...;-)
Thank you so much ka. your teaching is very clear explanation how to identify the tone sound
Your Video is so good and accurate. Although i find it really hard to remember all the rules but i have to say you'd done a really good job explaining them. Thank you so much for making these. :)
this is what i've been looking for! this is a lot to take for my teeny tiny brain but this really helps in understanding the tone rules better, thank you so much!
It's a lot to take in in 13 minutes, but this flow-chart style explanation is the best I've seen! I feel like it could have been simplified a little by explaining live/dead syllables at the beginning, though. Have the tone rule table open in the background while you watch it, everyone; it makes a world of difference!
Excellent explanation...now I have to remember it :)
Best activities. .thanks madam
Thanku so much for this useful video😊😊
Fantastic teacher !!!
Thank you very much. wish you best luck!
excellent, thankyou.
rewatch rewatch rewatch!
Very good!!! Thank you. Now I have subscribed
Been practicing reading for awhile and this vid helps a lot 😭💙💙💙 thank you so much
I understood everything actually. Thanks.
Hello, so good. Can add a video with tone combinations, I mean, different tones per syllable in a same word?
Greetings from Mexico ;)
You explained it much better than the class I took. Thanks!
Thank you so much teacher 👩🏫
Damn i just got blasted with all this information. probably will take a week or two to understand this.
泰语声调的规则，你总结的非常清晰非常好用，我受益匪浅，谢谢！ขอบคุณครับ
Very good video on Thai rules.👍👍👍
Helpful mak mak.
after two years of learning thai by myself, I regret not studying this rule! it makes your accents just like the locals
Hello, very interesting because well explained. I am not learning Thai but I find it interesting how a language works. And this channel seems to explain clearly. Well done :-)
This was very helpful. My Thai language teacher taught this but not in a concise manner as this video.
Thank you ka
Great explanation!
I think I'm gonna have a hard time remembering these rules, but thanks to the video, this will help me a lot!. 😊❤ you're the best at explaining. 👍👍
Hi. Please can you explain why 'Gor' (meaning 'also') has a falling tone? 'Gor' has the mai-dtai-kuu symbol above it. As it does not have a tone mark, it must either have a mid or a low tone. Following the tone rules, a falling tone here cannot be a possibility. As it is a live syllable, it surely can only have a mid tone. Thanks
Very good question. Seems like ก็ is one of exceptions (ก็ reading as ก้อ, falling tone).
Thank you so much. I always get confused with the tones
The explanation is ok, but the logic behind so many exceptions or changes is just -- well, hard to grasp as a foreigner.
cant handle the heat (no pun intended) get out of the kitchen na krup
Hi I'm watching this vid in 2020 is there any changes here?
THANK U SO MUCH KRU
how can i determine if what consonant is to be used
thakyou, excellent
Thank for the video
As a Chinese who manages to speak Mandarin,Cantonese,Hakka dialect, English,Japanese,Spanish and French,I can understand these rules perfectly.
Are diphtongs considered as a long vowel sound or a short vowel sound?
thank you
Why do the high tone on 3:29 sounds different from the one on 12:02 ? Could you please explain?
maybe because of the vowels, the first one is long while the second is short
@@jeong-haekim4507 not at all. Listen carefully. The last one increase in tone. Try to mimic and pronounce both longer, you will fund the difference. The one on 12:02 is more likely the high tone. I compare it with other teachers. But I am not sure too although other teachers never pronounce the one in 3:29 as high tone.
I didn't pay much attention at first but yeah the tones are different. I just saw the previous video from the same teacher (lesson#113), and she pronounced some high tones too high even the Thai speakers themselves in the comment don't recognize. lol
@@jeong-haekim4507 thank you I will watch lesson 113. But The rule she gaves is useful though. ☺
Helpful... love.
thank you very much Khob Khun Krap, Sut Yot!!!
very useful and detailed :)
Omg you are so great presentation, but, I’m so confused how to remember all this rules
Why do I wanna learn Thai language again? She is an amazing teacher indeed, but Holly cow
Great great great
2:37 isnt ก middle class? Why it is written as high class?
ก is middle class
ขอบคุณมากครับ =)
Really I 've learnt alots about the tones in Thai language.I expect more in this aspect.ขอบคุณคระบ
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Omg after learning the Thai alphabet including the class of each consonant, the next thing is to learn are the tone markers, then the 18 or so tone rules that come with it... how long does it take a foreigner to learn a 2 or 3 letter word whilst having to check all the rules before saying the actual word?? My brain has not been this frazzled in such a long time.
Then the other side to it is that Thai people speak so fast that the tones are really hard to distinguish... when does it get easier 🤣🤣
this woman for president
อยู่ (yù) Why it is Low Tone?
I don’t understand it. ย is Low Consonant and with Mai Ek, so it should be Falling Tone. Why it become Low Tone? Is that see the อ (Middle Consonant) instant of ย. In this case like อยู่ , which consonant should I see? อ or ย? Can someone explain me? Please!!! _/\_
อ make ย become middle class
Jirap Lala ขอบคุณมากครับ
I know it is 2 years ago..... If there are 2 consecutive consonants, the first one determine the rule ie: อ which is middle class thats why it is low tone with Mai Ek.
thank youuu
I think I'm just going to remember each word, I don't think I can remember these rules.
12:49 That's all
I am deceased by the end of the video..haha
And here I thought the thai scripts and 5 tones are already hard to memorize and master, the tone rules are on a way different level. Argh. T_T
OMG.. thats all make me inzane na kruu.....can u make it more simple..
it is not as easy as to a non Thai like me, I am self learning by reading mannie books n also watch online lessons.
Thai admitted Science in Letter learning. No to politics.
2:36 Ko Kai is middle class consonant, not high..it is wrong :)
The video is helpful, but you need to explain slowly
Actually it will be helpful if you write it down as a reference. It is really handy as a manual when you need it. It is not complete though, she doesnt explain about double consonant. When there are 2 consecutive consonants the first consonant determine the rule even if the first consonant and the second consonant arent in the same syllable. Her tone rule is easier to remember if you learn about life and dead syllable because some of them can be grouped so you dont have to remember that much.
It's difficult and different from Lao tone rules :v
Vietnamese has 6 tone mark, It’s similar to thaI tone mark
its tone....not thone
I been trying to learn Thai for years now. It is very frustrating and makes me wonder who made all these ridicules rules. Surely I can think of a more efficient alphabet to use… strange
Same lol the only thing I can do is look and say the consonants 😂😂😂 after years
This language is sadistically difficult.