He literally cried over Maria’s body. It’s why Talos had to drag him away. That scene on the bench was him being overwhelmed - and yes losing the job. Because he needs the resources to keep BOTH of his promises- to Maria’s mother and to Talos. And to have someone you consider a friend call you mediocre…he was spiraling. He has no one to turn to at this point.
Respectfully... This is how Fury grieves for Maria Hill. People in the "profession" would focus more on finishing the mission to honor the memory of those they have lost. After the job is done there will be time for tears. This is very much in keeping with the cold war spy motif of this show. And a theme that should be familiar from the Expanse and Firefly.
Fury gave away his emotional reaction to losing Maria Hill when he actually watched her die. He was a mess in that moment, but had to put the “man in control” mask back on once he was back dealing with other people.
100% agree. People grieve differently. Just because one person will shed a tear over her death does not mean the next person will as well. When Fury kicked Talos off the train, I knew that was him still processing everything. I mean... yeah... the revelation of one million Skrulls on Earth was a surprise to him... but had Fury been 100% himself he probably wouldn't have gone off on Talos. When Fury was talking to Maria's mother Elizabeth, you can see the pain in Fury's face. That moment belonged to the mother and her emotion. Fury crying would have taken over the scene. I think the director and showrunner made the right call in this scene.
Fury seemed to be grieving over her when Talos pretended to kidnap him. I think the breakdown was a culmination of his pain, shame, and guilt for Maria. He knows he will keep working on this battle. This is already starting to remind me of Andor. It's a darker, more mature look at the MCU. The writing is great, and the content is great too. I hope there isn't a sky beam. I wish they would have given 4-5 more minutes for the funeral, train, and bar scene to breathe though.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Of course bud. I didn't know it would hurt someone's feelings. I just think they're doing a great job so far. I don't want to see CGI armies or sky beams. Andor did the same thing. Everything had heart and purpose. I just hope it keeps the storytelling. So far, it's really well done.
Cull Obsidian was the Big Guy among the children of Thanos in Infinity War... It looks like they got a sample of his DNA from the arm that Wong cut off with the portal. The other sources were from Groot (not sure where he left a piece of himself), the monster from the Frost Giants' world that was running around London after Thor: The Dark World, and a sample of Extremis which AIM was using to make people regenerate (and explode) in Iron Man 3. The suggestion would be that they're going to be creating some Super Skrulls... Skrulls that can go toe-to-toe with the Fantastic Four and Avengers and possibly impersonate them by duplicating their power sets.
They're basically copying the F4 as best they can with what is available by the looks of it. Stretchy stuff from Groot, armored skin from Cull, and fire from extremis. Not sure how the frost beast relates to Invisible Woman though.
Good point. Allies are not a monolith. People who are very much alike do disagree all the time. The same can be said for the conversation between Fury and Talos. Both aren't wrong.
Lots of fans are wondering what Fury will do when he learns his wife is a Skrull. He 10000% knows. That's probably the Skrull from the flashback and they fell in love and got married. Shes the reason Nick still thinks the Skrulls are worth fighting for.
I disagree on Fury being more bothered by the Rhodey conversation than Maria. He was very distraught when Talos pulled him out. And then broke down in the train. And then broke down after Rhodey as more of a culmination of everything.
Yeah, breaking down after Rhodey was breaking down because in a day, he lost his right hand woman, lost all trust in his best friend, and was disavowed by his nation. Fury’s a pretty cold guy a times, even he can’t take all that.
I like that plotline where Rhodey basically tells the other members of NATO to f*ck off and then says it's Fury's fault for 'flipping their allies to the Russian side'. That tends to happen when you tell them to f*ck off.
Rhodey said all he could given the scenario. He can’t let them know Fury is AWOL, he doesn’t know what Fury is doing, and he’s being forced to deal with the fallout by himself because the president wasn’t interested enough.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483I disagree. I believe this scene reveals the flaw in Rhodey's character. A flaw they downplay, but is still there. When it's all said and done, Col. Rhodes is a bureaucrat. One who came up through the military, but still a bureaucrat, and rarely is able to allow his gut feelings or personal attachments overcome that bureaucratic, by the book, follow the rules mentality. And it's sad his history with Fury hasn't given him enough reason, as it SHOULD, to back his play in this instance, the consequences be damned.
Maybe you couldn't see Fury breaking down in grief through your own tears. We all hated seeing Maria Hill go, but it set the tone that the stakes are high in this ride!
He did cry at the end for Maria at the end of episode one when he was mourning over her body. You prob didn’t hear. Not to mention when her mother gave him that speech you can see nick was visually shook up and emotional over it
G'iah was calling the cops. She was speaking Russian. You had it right when you said she did it, but he'd be blamed. I'm pretty sure she's on her own, not working with anyone. She's in a tremendous amount of danger, and she's starting to see what that means. The 4 we saw on screen were Groot, the big creature that got left behind in the mid credits of Thor Ragnorock, Thanos' big muscle, and the Extremis power from Iron Man 3. They are collecting samples of power to integrate those abilities into Skrulls.
@@watchfulblue3073 yup. It was, and I knew that, and I still typed it without thinking. Sigh. I've tried to forget that movie so hard I wrote it wrong.
Fury was grieving for Maria throughout the whole episode. I don't think he would have pushed Talos away in the train conversation if she hadn't died. He still would have been pissed, but probably more of an "OK, what do we do to fix your screw up?" rather than "Get out".
It's not the loss of his job that caused him to break down. It was Rhodey, whom he considered a colleague and a friend, turning his back on him and reminding him once again of his responsibility for Anita's death not long after her mother did the same. Also after he'd just pushed away one of his closest friends for not sharing vital information with him out of anger. On top of that, it is implied that Garik was something of an adoptive son to him. Steve and Tony are gone and he fears putting the remaining Avenger's at risk. He feels overwhelmed, betrayed, and alone and that is the reason he breaks down.
How do u know he didnt cry over hill dying? He was grieving when he found her before getting pulled away and i dont believe fury breaking down after talking to rhodes was only because of his firing but everything that is goin on including maria passing. Calubsidean was the creature who was one of children of thanos. Wong sent him through a portal in infinity war and the portal cut his hand off. The government got his severed hand and is using its DNA
He wasn't sad about losing a job. He was frustrated that someone he thought he could count on wasn't listening to his concerns. Also we do not know what life Maria lead. She could've had someone just as everyone else does. You didn't know Fury had someone until now
I can't stop thinking about what you said about the decision not to show Nick grieving for Maria. I think Marvel is trying to keep him in character. We didn't see Nick show emotion when he lost Phil, or when he lost Natasha and Tony, so I didn't think much of it until the emotion he showed after losing his job. After thinking about that scene, I don't think his emotional display was about the job. I think it was more about feeling like he was losing control of the situation, and what would happen to humanity if he didn't. That played into what Maria's mom said to him: don't let Maria's death be for nothing. When you look at it that way, those tears could have been for Maria
As someone who’s been paying attention to when and how men cry onscreen for the last 23 years, and as someone who’s watched all the Disney plus mcu shows, I can say if a male character on an mcu show is going to cry, it doesn’t happen til at least episode 4. (Well, except for Loki, who def cried in episode 1.) Normally I’d say Nick Fury would be one of the last MCU men to cry, but in his current state he just might.
I love seeing more of Ben Mendelsohn playing center stage in a role. He's a fantastic actor. And after living in Australia and seeing him in Killing Them Softly he crushed it in that role. He was also a fantastic villain in Rogue One. I have yet to see Animal Kingdom though I know he was in that with a bunch of other Australian actors. He also had that short part in the Nolan Batman movies, played a slimy businessman really well.
Only folks that don’t like this are kids. This is for sure more grounded (aside from skrulls but it does take place in the nations capital) and for the mature audience and I love it.
For all those criticizing the opening. AI is just a tool for artist. This opening has real art in it that is created and AI is used to enhance the final product. It isn’t as easy as “make Secret Invasion opening” as a prompt. I personally adore the opening animatic, and was shocked to hear people hated it.
Kull Obsidian was the big ogre man who went to Manhattan with the Squidward guy in Infinity War. Wong cut off his arm and that's where the Skrulls got his DNA.
I have been enjoying your reaction videos for several weeks now. I enjoy hearing your perspective, thoughts as well as your lovely laugh and that smile that lights up all of UA-cam. And thanks for also sharing those moments that move you to heartbreak and tears. I do have one thought regarding your wish to change your height.... I suspect many of us share the opinion that you're perceived imperfections are actually quite perfect for us. 😊 Blessings to you and yours.
Fury wasn’t upset about being fired, being on sword for years he knew that was an option. He was in trouble with the government ever since forming the avengers and going against the council.
This series definitely made me see Fury in a different light. Almost like he grew up without a emotional compass which obviously makes perfect for his role as Nick Fury. He comes off so cold sometimes and even insecure/arrogant when people force him to acknowledge his personality shortcomings. However this show is definitely one of the more human and down to earth like you said. Captain America was another good example!
Rhodey always towed the government line, he was the first to support the sokovia accords. While we might like all the avengers to be of a ‘like’ mind, we know the trouble there waa getting them together in avengers 1. The council didn’t believe in them and loki knew he could easily tear them apart. Even with the sokovia accords they split the team in half, 50/50, with some joining, some reluctantly joining and others never joining.
The machine that the scrulls have is to make super scrulls for that they are harvesting DNA from other races like we see in the computer screen like Groot, Frost Giant ect. Scrulls cant replicate super powers from other people, but in the comics they do a religious ritual and genetic modifications to get super powers.
There were something like 3000 Asgardians living in a fishing village. They're not a million shapeshifters who can replace popular media figures and even heads of state.
@@visvivalaw I can think of a few areas, around the world, that could house a billion aliens. That being said, 1 million aliens spread around the world isn't a big deal. Skrulls are slightly stronger than humans, while Asgardians are super strength and live for thousands of years.
I assumed the breakdown after the confrontation with the "human" agent was because he realized how much effort & how much physical pain he felt as a result of taking the agents hands off of himself & wondering if he will have the strength to gain justice for Maria & the 2000 folks that Gravik killed, but I am a generous sort so maybe that was not intended by the writers.
In the heat of the battle Fury is not going to start getting emotional over Hill while bombs are going off around him… but you did see him at multiple times put his head in his hands trying to deal with his losses and the situation.
I keep telling people that the Skrulls are the kudzu of the Marvel universe. And the woman on the Council said it best when she pointed out that the Skrull did not lose their world because they wouldn't fight, but because they always fight.
Excellent reaction! You raised some points I hadn't considered when I just watched this myself. Then again, i don't get along with all my brothers so I'm not one who'd ever be able to live with people from another planet. Anyway, the scientist Daltons are looking to create some sort of Super-Skrull or Power-Skrull, a being that can not only shape-shift but can go toe-to-toe with the Fantastic Four or the Avengers. (The Daltons don't appear to be based on anyone in the comics; since this is a show about Nick Fury, the name could be an Easter Egg to Agents of Shield's Grant Wards actor.)
I console myself about Maria by contemplating the possibility, however slight, that it creates room for Daisy Johnson from Agents of SHIELD to enter the MCU Proper. It would even be mostly in keeping with comics.
Its true that The Skrulls should give Fury a break for not finding them a home during the blip . But that was also only 5 years out of 30 . And he fully detached after coming back....so i can see how the impressionable angry Skrulls can be turned . Especially with that luciuos garden planet with no other sentient beings on it that Thabis retired to in endgame....
Earth hasn’t developed intergalactic travel yet. How are the Skrull’s mad that we haven’t found them a planet yet? If there’s a whole in this storyline, that it.
@@macfine …but they haven’t as far as the universe has shown so far. Another big question is, does Fury and the Skrull’s really believe that we would give them the opportunity to populate the first livable world we earthlings find?
@@macfine I’m enjoying this show and think it’s well written and acted. I think I should make that clear, but that plot hole isn’t something I can overlook.🤷🏾♂️
Personally I think Fury breaking down was a cumulation of feelings (especially losing Hill) Losing job, losing Allies, losing control. All that led up to him breaking down. I don’t think it was meant to demean Hills memory or legacy.
The Skrull story is very deep in the comics. It goes back to 1960s storylines. I think we are all seeing the creation of the Super Skrull or something familiar to it. The story is deep and the Skrulls have many factions. I think we have yet to be introduced to the 3rd faction that they have hinted to in this episode. The Secret Invasion is very different than the source material because they have introduced Skrulls very differently in the MCU. However the warning about making up a story you think you like is that any Skrull story can take any of a number directions so just go show by show. Anything can happen and I don't trust deaths. Fury may know even more so just don't be surprised. I like good deaths in stories and I am ok with this one but I know comics and no one stays dead.
"My bad for having some compassion and some hope and some positivity and, and just believing people can be good. Cuz I realize that that not's always the case. Damn." Just don't let it ever happen again! As for Maria not having a life and giving up a lot, that comes with the job in the espionage field that SHIELD agents willingly accept. Agent Coulson did not have a personal life when he died (there was the musician but that didn't work out) and Nick Fury didn't shed a tear when he died either. He was in despair but he did not cry. Black Widow did not have much of a personal life either when she sacrificed herself for the Soul Stone. She summed it up best when talking to Steve Rogers about it in the stolen truck scene during The Winter Soldier when Steve said he wanted her to be a friend: "Well there's a chance you might be in the wrong business, Rogers." Sharon Carter also did not have a personal life before or after the Blip. The only exception to the rule was Hawkeye who fell in love with fellow Agent 13 and the price for having this personal life was to keep it a closely guarded secret (known only to Natasha Romanov and Nick Fury) as well as an early retirement for both agents.
What I dont get is why does Gravick have so much power. Pretty much everyone submits to him really easily. Like when the UN guy stands up and says he call a million troops with snap of his fingers, he wasnt kidding. He can do that. But someone punches him so he just gives up?
Yeah, the NATO Skrull just got punked by Gravick. The guy thinks 1M Skrull will take out the world’s governments and military and the heroes (when and IF they’re called).
I actually took his small breakdown after meeting with Rhodey to actually be his reaction to Maria Hill. I think that someone like Fury holds things in and doesn't react to them, but finds that things will "bust out" from time to time. Pretty sure he didn't give a damn about losing his job. (Totally my own personal take, not saying it's the "correct" one.) Love your reactions! (And still miss you reacting to Ted Lasso.)
The more i rewatch this scene between Rhodey and Fury, the more i appreciate it. Rhodey wasn't contacted first when Fury formed the Avengers. Nick Fury contacted a white weapons manufacturer. Then he contacted a white popsicle who only had training from WWII. All I'm saying is, the Avengers would have been better if Rhodey had been the one, and not Tony. And I think that's why it's so easy for Rhodey to say what he did. As far as I know, this is the first time Rhodey and Fury have ever shared not only a scene together, but dialogue together, in the entire franchise. 😮😂😢
Thinking that Rhodey is upset due to racial implications is extremely missing the point and literally misinterpreting his own words. He isn't upset because "he didnt get the call". He is doing his job as a company man, which he has always been, and is pissed because Fury at this point in time has been dropping the ball all over the place.
I don't think the first episode was bad at all, even with Maria's fate at the end, so long as the series makes it worth it. Does that make sense? I think it's a good move to set the stakes but if it's just dropped or we don't see the ramifications in future episodes then it'll be wasted. Either way, I like seeing Fury on his back foot because we all know he'll come through in the end! 'Even when I'm out, I'm in.'
So if you didn’t know about the part where Gi’iah was looking at the computer researching behind Gravik back and saw those experimental records?!?!? If you didnt know?!?! Is it a Super Skrull reference from the comics and a Fantastic Four Reference from the comics as well…….. Groot Sample-Mr.Fantastic Frost Beast Sample-Invisible Women Cull Obsidian Hand Sample-The Thing Extremis Sample-Human Torch Groot Samples were found out on the battlefields of either Wakanda in Avengers Infinity War Or The Avengers Compound that got destroyed at the finale of Avengers Endgame Frost Beast Samples are most likely from out from another part of London Paris because that’s where the finales of Thor 2: The Dark World toon place and that’s where that beast was summoned at accidentally Cull Obsidian Hand Sample was when in Avengers Infinity War during the second fight scene in NY out near Doctor Strange & Grandmaster Wongs Sanctum Santorum house….when during the fight with Iron Man,Bruce,Doc Strange,Wong & Later Spider-Man against Cull Obsidian & Ebony Ma Bruce was about to get attacked but Cull from behind while Iron Man & Wong are protecting him?!?!! Wong open that portal and shut it in culls hand the right time and sent it back to that one area that Cull had gotten Iron Man Down on the ground stuck in his Claw Arm thing but yea Extremis Sample comes from Iron Man 3 when Aldrich Killian made that weird experiment flare power thing where those bad guys was glowing like fire whenever they use the power so yea that source of that power from that villain from Iron Man 3 is where they got Extremis from
Cull Obsidian died in Infinity War, Groot blipped and his roots were in the ground in Infinity War, both in Wakanda. I wonder if the skrulls found those things and are using the scientists find a way to make Gravik super. I'm also wondering if this is something that will end up resolved in this show or goes beyond this show.
It would appear that you completely ignored/forgot that Fury broke down over Maria Hills' dead body and had to be physically dragged away by Talos. Stuff is mounting up and being fired is being told that he can't get justice for her murder. Fury is not breaking down over a "job," but what that job means in terms of resources.
I definitely was an optimist too but by ep 3, I was like...nahhhh. Considering all the alien interaction earth had, we certainly could HOST a new species but many obviously would have trauma scars thanks to Loki and Thanos.
Personally I feel like humans not being able to coexist with humans is not really an argument against humans coexisting with Skrulls. Humans are able to coexist sort of despite not having a lot of tolerance for each other, so I feel like aliens could very realistically just fit into that dynamic. Just another group that coexists in a dysfunctional way. As long as it is less effort to let them be than to fight them, they will just be another weird neighbor. I don't think it has to be a binary between harmony and annihilation, there are many middle grounds. The terrorist angle is not gonna make it easy though.
I liked the fact they used Ai in the titles to make it distinctly inhuman and alien. It is AI being used properly - as a tool by humans. As opposed to trying to replace humans. And humans are inherently xenophobic (although the good ones ignore this when dealing with others). Which is probably why they were the only hominids to reach historical times. And shape-changing or parasitic aliens have always been an existential threat in this regard. Because it destroys trust. But you are not a fool for hoping for better - for *that* to define what it truly means to be human. Happy London trip!
Okay, I need to know, it is driving me crazy. Is there a tetris configuration in the background that allow a perfect rectangle ? I spend too much time trying to mentally reconfigure the pieces instead of focusing on the show and reaction
Anyone else want an Incredibles reference with Priscilla? "I am the greatest 'good' you are EVER gonna get!" xD Alternatively, "Where's my super-suit!?"
You said it yourself. "No tears for Maria"... *because she's not dead*. I think the writers stressed too much in the first episode that Fury is too old for this. Maria said the old Fury was always three steps ahead. I think he still is. They said multiple times that the bombs were DIRTY, i.e., HIGHLY radioactive. Thus the two thousand deaths *thus far* from four small bombs. To me, both Fury and Hill looked too calm when there, especially when the bombs detonated. In that scene, both Skrull. The second epidide, Talos grabs Fury as Hill is guvibg her last breath. Befure she changes or soleone else grabs her and saves her. It won't be lazy writing because this is all modeled after classic spy and whodunnit thrillers. The writers are building a reveal for how Fury was three steps ahead. The lazy part may be how Rambeau was involved, some deus ex machina tweak. But I'm still eager for a clever twist or five. The showrunner said he was inspired by Orson Welles films... Deige gave this the greenlight from the furst pitch meeting. So I have faith still. But in only four more episides? That's two movies, but... Fingers crossed (not cut off)...
He literally cried over Maria’s body. It’s why Talos had to drag him away. That scene on the bench was him being overwhelmed - and yes losing the job. Because he needs the resources to keep BOTH of his promises- to Maria’s mother and to Talos. And to have someone you consider a friend call you mediocre…he was spiraling. He has no one to turn to at this point.
The Fury-Rhodes conversation was amazing. 2 brilliant actors
Respectfully... This is how Fury grieves for Maria Hill. People in the "profession" would focus more on finishing the mission to honor the memory of those they have lost. After the job is done there will be time for tears. This is very much in keeping with the cold war spy motif of this show. And a theme that should be familiar from the Expanse and Firefly.
Fury gave away his emotional reaction to losing Maria Hill when he actually watched her die. He was a mess in that moment, but had to put the “man in control” mask back on once he was back dealing with other people.
100% agree. People grieve differently. Just because one person will shed a tear over her death does not mean the next person will as well. When Fury kicked Talos off the train, I knew that was him still processing everything. I mean... yeah... the revelation of one million Skrulls on Earth was a surprise to him... but had Fury been 100% himself he probably wouldn't have gone off on Talos.
When Fury was talking to Maria's mother Elizabeth, you can see the pain in Fury's face. That moment belonged to the mother and her emotion. Fury crying would have taken over the scene. I think the director and showrunner made the right call in this scene.
Fury seemed to be grieving over her when Talos pretended to kidnap him. I think the breakdown was a culmination of his pain, shame, and guilt for Maria. He knows he will keep working on this battle. This is already starting to remind me of Andor. It's a darker, more mature look at the MCU. The writing is great, and the content is great too. I hope there isn't a sky beam. I wish they would have given 4-5 more minutes for the funeral, train, and bar scene to breathe though.
Can we stop the sky beam jokes now? Marvel hasn’t had them for a while
@@mr.stuffdoer8483 Of course bud. I didn't know it would hurt someone's feelings. I just think they're doing a great job so far. I don't want to see CGI armies or sky beams. Andor did the same thing. Everything had heart and purpose. I just hope it keeps the storytelling. So far, it's really well done.
Cull Obsidian was the Big Guy among the children of Thanos in Infinity War... It looks like they got a sample of his DNA from the arm that Wong cut off with the portal. The other sources were from Groot (not sure where he left a piece of himself), the monster from the Frost Giants' world that was running around London after Thor: The Dark World, and a sample of Extremis which AIM was using to make people regenerate (and explode) in Iron Man 3. The suggestion would be that they're going to be creating some Super Skrulls... Skrulls that can go toe-to-toe with the Fantastic Four and Avengers and possibly impersonate them by duplicating their power sets.
Ah yes that right 😊
Groot branches from wakanda.
They're basically copying the F4 as best they can with what is available by the looks of it. Stretchy stuff from Groot, armored skin from Cull, and fire from extremis. Not sure how the frost beast relates to Invisible Woman though.
I love that conversation between Rhodey and Fury it's smart dialogue between two people on different sides of a fight. Both aren't wrong.
Good point. Allies are not a monolith. People who are very much alike do disagree all the time. The same can be said for the conversation between Fury and Talos. Both aren't wrong.
Lots of fans are wondering what Fury will do when he learns his wife is a Skrull. He 10000% knows. That's probably the Skrull from the flashback and they fell in love and got married. Shes the reason Nick still thinks the Skrulls are worth fighting for.
It is her, it's clearly her voice.
I think he knows
I disagree on Fury being more bothered by the Rhodey conversation than Maria. He was very distraught when Talos pulled him out. And then broke down in the train. And then broke down after Rhodey as more of a culmination of everything.
Yeah, breaking down after Rhodey was breaking down because in a day, he lost his right hand woman, lost all trust in his best friend, and was disavowed by his nation. Fury’s a pretty cold guy a times, even he can’t take all that.
I like that plotline where Rhodey basically tells the other members of NATO to f*ck off and then says it's Fury's fault for 'flipping their allies to the Russian side'. That tends to happen when you tell them to f*ck off.
Rhodey said all he could given the scenario. He can’t let them know Fury is AWOL, he doesn’t know what Fury is doing, and he’s being forced to deal with the fallout by himself because the president wasn’t interested enough.
@@mr.stuffdoer8483I disagree. I believe this scene reveals the flaw in Rhodey's character. A flaw they downplay, but is still there. When it's all said and done, Col. Rhodes is a bureaucrat. One who came up through the military, but still a bureaucrat, and rarely is able to allow his gut feelings or personal attachments overcome that bureaucratic, by the book, follow the rules mentality.
And it's sad his history with Fury hasn't given him enough reason, as it SHOULD, to back his play in this instance, the consequences be damned.
I think Fury's breakdown over Maria is still to come and it is going to be powerful.
The animators used AI to make this intro. The animators did the base images, they just used AI to bridge the gaps. Animators were paid for the intro.
Maybe you couldn't see Fury breaking down in grief through your own tears.
We all hated seeing Maria Hill go, but it set the tone that the stakes are high in this ride!
He did cry at the end for Maria at the end of episode one when he was mourning over her body. You prob didn’t hear. Not to mention when her mother gave him that speech you can see nick was visually shook up and emotional over it
G'iah was calling the cops. She was speaking Russian. You had it right when you said she did it, but he'd be blamed. I'm pretty sure she's on her own, not working with anyone. She's in a tremendous amount of danger, and she's starting to see what that means.
The 4 we saw on screen were Groot, the big creature that got left behind in the mid credits of Thor Ragnorock, Thanos' big muscle, and the Extremis power from Iron Man 3. They are collecting samples of power to integrate those abilities into Skrulls.
It was Thor: The Dark World
@@watchfulblue3073 yup. It was, and I knew that, and I still typed it without thinking. Sigh. I've tried to forget that movie so hard I wrote it wrong.
Mr. Glass married his mom. 😲
I am pretty sure that Fury's wife is the same skrull that introduced Gravic to him at the beginning of the episode.
The voice and her prosthetics seem to communicate that to us.
They really focused on her wedding ring at the beginning so I assume that that’s her
Fury was grieving for Maria throughout the whole episode. I don't think he would have pushed Talos away in the train conversation if she hadn't died. He still would have been pissed, but probably more of an "OK, what do we do to fix your screw up?" rather than "Get out".
It's not the loss of his job that caused him to break down. It was Rhodey, whom he considered a colleague and a friend, turning his back on him and reminding him once again of his responsibility for Anita's death not long after her mother did the same. Also after he'd just pushed away one of his closest friends for not sharing vital information with him out of anger. On top of that, it is implied that Garik was something of an adoptive son to him. Steve and Tony are gone and he fears putting the remaining Avenger's at risk. He feels overwhelmed, betrayed, and alone and that is the reason he breaks down.
How do u know he didnt cry over hill dying? He was grieving when he found her before getting pulled away and i dont believe fury breaking down after talking to rhodes was only because of his firing but everything that is goin on including maria passing. Calubsidean was the creature who was one of children of thanos. Wong sent him through a portal in infinity war and the portal cut his hand off. The government got his severed hand and is using its DNA
He wasn't sad about losing a job. He was frustrated that someone he thought he could count on wasn't listening to his concerns. Also we do not know what life Maria lead. She could've had someone just as everyone else does. You didn't know Fury had someone until now
I can't stop thinking about what you said about the decision not to show Nick grieving for Maria. I think Marvel is trying to keep him in character. We didn't see Nick show emotion when he lost Phil, or when he lost Natasha and Tony, so I didn't think much of it until the emotion he showed after losing his job. After thinking about that scene, I don't think his emotional display was about the job. I think it was more about feeling like he was losing control of the situation, and what would happen to humanity if he didn't. That played into what Maria's mom said to him: don't let Maria's death be for nothing. When you look at it that way, those tears could have been for Maria
As someone who’s been paying attention to when and how men cry onscreen for the last 23 years, and as someone who’s watched all the Disney plus mcu shows, I can say if a male character on an mcu show is going to cry, it doesn’t happen til at least episode 4. (Well, except for Loki, who def cried in episode 1.)
Normally I’d say Nick Fury would be one of the last MCU men to cry, but in his current state he just might.
I love seeing more of Ben Mendelsohn playing center stage in a role. He's a fantastic actor. And after living in Australia and seeing him in Killing Them Softly he crushed it in that role. He was also a fantastic villain in Rogue One. I have yet to see Animal Kingdom though I know he was in that with a bunch of other Australian actors. He also had that short part in the Nolan Batman movies, played a slimy businessman really well.
As an Aussie, I'm loving the fact that he's using his real accent :) He's been awesome for pretty much my whole life.
These 2 episodes are some of the best mcu content
Only folks that don’t like this are kids. This is for sure more grounded (aside from skrulls but it does take place in the nations capital) and for the mature audience and I love it.
@@eastwood1026 I disagree. I''m not a kid. Everything in this is great, apart from the writing, which is a massive let down for me.
For all those criticizing the opening. AI is just a tool for artist. This opening has real art in it that is created and AI is used to enhance the final product. It isn’t as easy as “make Secret Invasion opening” as a prompt. I personally adore the opening animatic, and was shocked to hear people hated it.
Kull Obsidian was the big ogre man who went to Manhattan with the Squidward guy in Infinity War. Wong cut off his arm and that's where the Skrulls got his DNA.
What did we do to deserve such brilliant acting?
Exactly. Man the dialogue between these two were top notch. Not surprising from two legendary veteran actors tho.
@@eastwood1026 Agreed
Maria Hill should've gone to Tahiti. It's a magical place. It's not like we have a shortage of Kree.
I believe that the Maria Hill Arc is not done. Also, Fury might have been more mad at the fact that Roddy wasnt willing to help.
Your right Maria Hill deserved better🥺🕊️
Maria Hill deserved Tahiti. It's a magical place.
Fury didn't break over a job. He broke because he reached the limit of how much he can take.
Calling Groot on the phone, now that would be an experienced 😂
I have been enjoying your reaction videos for several weeks now.
I enjoy hearing your perspective, thoughts as well as your lovely laugh and that smile that lights up all of UA-cam.
And thanks for also sharing those moments that move you to heartbreak and tears.
I do have one thought regarding your wish to change your height.... I suspect many of us share the opinion that you're perceived imperfections are actually quite perfect for us. 😊
Blessings to you and yours.
Have a great time in London.
Fury wasn’t upset about being fired, being on sword for years he knew that was an option. He was in trouble with the government ever since forming the avengers and going against the council.
This series definitely made me see Fury in a different light.
Almost like he grew up without a emotional compass which obviously makes perfect for his role as Nick Fury.
He comes off so cold sometimes and even insecure/arrogant when people force him to acknowledge his personality shortcomings.
However this show is definitely one of the more human and down to earth like you said.
Captain America was another good example!
Olivia Coleman plays Sonya Falsworth, the grand-daughter of the WWII hero Union Jack and a highly decorated MI-6 operative (Shades of Peggy Carter).
Rhodey called him Nick.
"Everyone calls me Fury"
I'm Starting to think the reason Hill was disposed so casually is that Colbie wanted out, I can see no other reason.
I agree. She probably wanted to pursue other projects.
Rhodey always towed the government line, he was the first to support the sokovia accords. While we might like all the avengers to be of a ‘like’ mind, we know the trouble there waa getting them together in avengers 1. The council didn’t believe in them and loki knew he could easily tear them apart. Even with the sokovia accords they split the team in half, 50/50, with some joining, some reluctantly joining and others never joining.
The machine that the scrulls have is to make super scrulls for that they are harvesting DNA from other races like we see in the computer screen like Groot, Frost Giant ect. Scrulls cant replicate super powers from other people, but in the comics they do a religious ritual and genetic modifications to get super powers.
Humans accepted Asgardians with open arms. They didn't check with Fury, before they moved their entire population to Earth. 😮
A few thousand versus millions. And no shape shifting ability that had allowed them to already come here without asking first.
@@visvivalawwell there was that shape shifting light Elf diplomat in she Hulk heh
@@macfine Agreed.
There were something like 3000 Asgardians living in a fishing village. They're not a million shapeshifters who can replace popular media figures and even heads of state.
@@visvivalaw I can think of a few areas, around the world, that could house a billion aliens. That being said, 1 million aliens spread around the world isn't a big deal. Skrulls are slightly stronger than humans, while Asgardians are super strength and live for thousands of years.
Fury mentioned in Winter Soldier that he was married
I like how Sonya is both hyper-competent and also kind of casually a psychopath.
Perfect for Olivia Colman 😈
While we the audience first saw skrulls on earth during captain marvel in the 90s, its quite possible they have been on earth far longer.
Super-Skrull confirmed!
Olivia Coleman was so good in this episode, and made me like her even more.
Ms Funny you need to hurry up and get to 100K!!!
Based on my comprehension of Skrull background/history it would appear that they are attempting to "harvest" the DNA in order to create Super-Skrulls.
We forget that Maria Hill went through the Blip along with Fury.
I assumed the breakdown after the confrontation with the "human" agent was because he realized how much effort & how much physical pain he felt as a result of taking the agents hands off of himself & wondering if he will have the strength to gain justice for Maria & the 2000 folks that Gravik killed, but I am a generous sort so maybe that was not intended by the writers.
In the heat of the battle Fury is not going to start getting emotional over Hill while bombs are going off around him… but you did see him at multiple times put his head in his hands trying to deal with his losses and the situation.
I keep telling people that the Skrulls are the kudzu of the Marvel universe. And the woman on the Council said it best when she pointed out that the Skrull did not lose their world because they wouldn't fight, but because they always fight.
Excellent reaction! You raised some points I hadn't considered when I just watched this myself. Then again, i don't get along with all my brothers so I'm not one who'd ever be able to live with people from another planet. Anyway, the scientist Daltons are looking to create some sort of Super-Skrull or Power-Skrull, a being that can not only shape-shift but can go toe-to-toe with the Fantastic Four or the Avengers. (The Daltons don't appear to be based on anyone in the comics; since this is a show about Nick Fury, the name could be an Easter Egg to Agents of Shield's Grant Wards actor.)
I console myself about Maria by contemplating the possibility, however slight, that it creates room for Daisy Johnson from Agents of SHIELD to enter the MCU Proper. It would even be mostly in keeping with comics.
Its true that The Skrulls should give Fury a break for not finding them a home during the blip . But that was also only 5 years out of 30 . And he fully detached after coming back....so i can see how the impressionable angry Skrulls can be turned . Especially with that luciuos garden planet with no other sentient beings on it that Thabis retired to in endgame....
Earth hasn’t developed intergalactic travel yet. How are the Skrull’s mad that we haven’t found them a planet yet? If there’s a whole in this storyline, that it.
@@kennethsmith6367 between captain Marvel and the Guardians, and the Asgardians , they could work something out
@@macfine …but they haven’t as far as the universe has shown so far. Another big question is, does Fury and the Skrull’s really believe that we would give them the opportunity to populate the first livable world we earthlings find?
@@macfine I’m enjoying this show and think it’s well written and acted. I think I should make that clear, but that plot hole isn’t something I can overlook.🤷🏾♂️
Super skrulls are on their way
Personally I think Fury breaking down was a cumulation of feelings (especially losing Hill) Losing job, losing Allies, losing control. All that led up to him breaking down. I don’t think it was meant to demean Hills memory or legacy.
The Skrull story is very deep in the comics. It goes back to 1960s storylines. I think we are all seeing the creation of the Super Skrull or something familiar to it. The story is deep and the Skrulls have many factions. I think we have yet to be introduced to the 3rd faction that they have hinted to in this episode. The Secret Invasion is very different than the source material because they have introduced Skrulls very differently in the MCU. However the warning about making up a story you think you like is that any Skrull story can take any of a number directions so just go show by show. Anything can happen and I don't trust deaths. Fury may know even more so just don't be surprised. I like good deaths in stories and I am ok with this one but I know comics and no one stays dead.
Cull Obsidian is the MCU version of Black Dwarf
It kills me, but i love that they made Maria's mother English. Colby's actual mother is English. ❤❤❤😢😢😢😢
Nick Fury's Easter Egg: "Me and Suzie had a standing game of doctor behind old man (Samuel L.) Jackson's barn."
"My bad for having some compassion and some hope and some positivity and, and just believing people can be good. Cuz I realize that that not's always the case. Damn."
Just don't let it ever happen again!
As for Maria not having a life and giving up a lot, that comes with the job in the espionage field that SHIELD agents willingly accept. Agent Coulson did not have a personal life when he died (there was the musician but that didn't work out) and Nick Fury didn't shed a tear when he died either. He was in despair but he did not cry. Black Widow did not have much of a personal life either when she sacrificed herself for the Soul Stone. She summed it up best when talking to Steve Rogers about it in the stolen truck scene during The Winter Soldier when Steve said he wanted her to be a friend: "Well there's a chance you might be in the wrong business, Rogers." Sharon Carter also did not have a personal life before or after the Blip.
The only exception to the rule was Hawkeye who fell in love with fellow Agent 13 and the price for having this personal life was to keep it a closely guarded secret (known only to Natasha Romanov and Nick Fury) as well as an early retirement for both agents.
I do think that humans and Skrulls could live in peace on earth. I'd welcome a family of Skrulls to my neighborhood. ☮️
of course Shooter McGavin isn't human
What I dont get is why does Gravick have so much power. Pretty much everyone submits to him really easily. Like when the UN guy stands up and says he call a million troops with snap of his fingers, he wasnt kidding. He can do that. But someone punches him so he just gives up?
Yeah, the NATO Skrull just got punked by Gravick. The guy thinks 1M Skrull will take out the world’s governments and military and the heroes (when and IF they’re called).
I only wish more people were as optimistic as we are…
Maria has been in 7 movies and 3 TV shows. Maybe Cobie was ready to move on? Though she will totally be missed. Loved her character.
I also believe that wish everyone could just get along, but for personal reasons I am very paranoid and trust no one
I actually took his small breakdown after meeting with Rhodey to actually be his reaction to Maria Hill. I think that someone like Fury holds things in and doesn't react to them, but finds that things will "bust out" from time to time. Pretty sure he didn't give a damn about losing his job. (Totally my own personal take, not saying it's the "correct" one.) Love your reactions! (And still miss you reacting to Ted Lasso.)
"Humans can't coexist with each other Talos!" 😬
The more i rewatch this scene between Rhodey and Fury, the more i appreciate it. Rhodey wasn't contacted first when Fury formed the Avengers. Nick Fury contacted a white weapons manufacturer. Then he contacted a white popsicle who only had training from WWII. All I'm saying is, the Avengers would have been better if Rhodey had been the one, and not Tony. And I think that's why it's so easy for Rhodey to say what he did. As far as I know, this is the first time Rhodey and Fury have ever shared not only a scene together, but dialogue together, in the entire franchise. 😮😂😢
Thinking that Rhodey is upset due to racial implications is extremely missing the point and literally misinterpreting his own words. He isn't upset because "he didnt get the call". He is doing his job as a company man, which he has always been, and is pissed because Fury at this point in time has been dropping the ball all over the place.
24:57 gorgeous MCM!
Its more interesting that Extremis was on the computer than mr Obsidian.
I’ve always wanted marvel to continue the Extremis storyline from Iron Man 3.
I don't think the first episode was bad at all, even with Maria's fate at the end, so long as the series makes it worth it. Does that make sense? I think it's a good move to set the stakes but if it's just dropped or we don't see the ramifications in future episodes then it'll be wasted. Either way, I like seeing Fury on his back foot because we all know he'll come through in the end! 'Even when I'm out, I'm in.'
Gravik was right.
About dogs.
Loving this series so far. You ever been to London before or will this be your first time??
enjoy your vacation!
Didn't Captain Marvel and Fury do that "tell me something I don't know?" game in that roadside diner?
So if you didn’t know about the part where Gi’iah was looking at the computer researching behind Gravik back and saw those experimental records?!?!? If you didnt know?!?! Is it a Super Skrull reference from the comics and a Fantastic Four Reference from the comics as well……..
Groot Sample-Mr.Fantastic
Frost Beast Sample-Invisible Women
Cull Obsidian Hand Sample-The Thing
Extremis Sample-Human Torch
Groot Samples were found out on the battlefields of either Wakanda in Avengers Infinity War Or The Avengers Compound that got destroyed at the finale of Avengers Endgame
Frost Beast Samples are most likely from out from another part of London Paris because that’s where the finales of Thor 2: The Dark World toon place and that’s where that beast was summoned at accidentally
Cull Obsidian Hand Sample was when in Avengers Infinity War during the second fight scene in NY out near Doctor Strange & Grandmaster Wongs Sanctum Santorum house….when during the fight with Iron Man,Bruce,Doc Strange,Wong & Later Spider-Man against Cull Obsidian & Ebony Ma Bruce was about to get attacked but Cull from behind while Iron Man & Wong are protecting him?!?!! Wong open that portal and shut it in culls hand the right time and sent it back to that one area that Cull had gotten Iron Man Down on the ground stuck in his Claw Arm thing but yea
Extremis Sample comes from Iron Man 3 when Aldrich Killian made that weird experiment flare power thing where those bad guys was glowing like fire whenever they use the power so yea that source of that power from that villain from Iron Man 3 is where they got Extremis from
This ending just blow my mind! 🤯
Cull Obsidian died in Infinity War, Groot blipped and his roots were in the ground in Infinity War, both in Wakanda. I wonder if the skrulls found those things and are using the scientists find a way to make Gravik super. I'm also wondering if this is something that will end up resolved in this show or goes beyond this show.
That’s who that is! I knew I knew that name
Cul worked for THANOS. He fought
Irion man.
I thought far from home established hill and fury were skrulls in post credits… did they resolve that and not tell us?
Those Skrulls were Talos and his wife, Fury was on the S.A.B.E.R. station, which they showed us in the end credits.
@@charlie53echo oh thank god... I was super confused by that. Thanks for sorting it out.
They are trying to make Super Skrulls
It would appear that you completely ignored/forgot that Fury broke down over Maria Hills' dead body and had to be physically dragged away by Talos. Stuff is mounting up and being fired is being told that he can't get justice for her murder. Fury is not breaking down over a "job," but what that job means in terms of resources.
What you gonna be doing in London Angela? Anything exciting planned? I have for next summer 👍
Nobody thought first episode bad .My Daughter and I liked it.Most people seem like the like acting in this episode like Andor.
Fury deliberately separating from Talos to protect his wife I expect
Part of Thanos Army
I definitely was an optimist too but by ep 3, I was like...nahhhh.
Considering all the alien interaction earth had, we certainly could HOST a new species but many obviously would have trauma scars thanks to Loki and Thanos.
I wonder if Gravick was the one who killed Talos's wife Soren. If he did the same thing that he did to Nick Fury.
Personally I feel like humans not being able to coexist with humans is not really an argument against humans coexisting with Skrulls. Humans are able to coexist sort of despite not having a lot of tolerance for each other, so I feel like aliens could very realistically just fit into that dynamic. Just another group that coexists in a dysfunctional way. As long as it is less effort to let them be than to fight them, they will just be another weird neighbor. I don't think it has to be a binary between harmony and annihilation, there are many middle grounds. The terrorist angle is not gonna make it easy though.
I liked the fact they used Ai in the titles to make it distinctly inhuman and alien. It is AI being used properly - as a tool by humans. As opposed to trying to replace humans.
And humans are inherently xenophobic (although the good ones ignore this when dealing with others). Which is probably why they were the only hominids to reach historical times. And shape-changing or parasitic aliens have always been an existential threat in this regard. Because it destroys trust. But you are not a fool for hoping for better - for *that* to define what it truly means to be human.
Happy London trip!
Did anyone else notice that wasn’t Fury on the train? That train was in Russia. Fury was in London with Hill’s mother.
I kind of thought it was weird that he was all over the place
@@funnylilgalreactsWell done!
Was that not Maria in the box either? How'd she get there so fast? Sometimes the simple answer is correct - there was just a timejump.
@@BenChanNYC That’s very possible yes. I just feel like they slammed the two scenes next to each other to tip off people that something was amiss
Enjoyed your reaction! But to see that the Rocinante still back there..... means everything! Beltalowda!
Okay, I need to know, it is driving me crazy.
Is there a tetris configuration in the background that allow a perfect rectangle ?
I spend too much time trying to mentally reconfigure the pieces instead of focusing on the show and reaction
Sounds like a personal problem. lol. 🤨
@@raymondamador1487 It 100% is !
Anyone else want an Incredibles reference with Priscilla?
"I am the greatest 'good' you are EVER gonna get!" xD
Alternatively, "Where's my super-suit!?"
You said it yourself. "No tears for Maria"... *because she's not dead*. I think the writers stressed too much in the first episode that Fury is too old for this. Maria said the old Fury was always three steps ahead. I think he still is. They said multiple times that the bombs were DIRTY, i.e., HIGHLY radioactive. Thus the two thousand deaths *thus far* from four small bombs. To me, both Fury and Hill looked too calm when there, especially when the bombs detonated. In that scene, both Skrull. The second epidide, Talos grabs Fury as Hill is guvibg her last breath. Befure she changes or soleone else grabs her and saves her. It won't be lazy writing because this is all modeled after classic spy and whodunnit thrillers. The writers are building a reveal for how Fury was three steps ahead. The lazy part may be how Rambeau was involved, some deus ex machina tweak. But I'm still eager for a clever twist or five. The showrunner said he was inspired by Orson Welles films... Deige gave this the greenlight from the furst pitch meeting. So I have faith still. But in only four more episides? That's two movies, but... Fingers crossed (not cut off)...