Not really, they look just like humans(and let's be real, we're racist/species-ist like that) and Thor is an Avenger and a hero so I'm betting it literally won't be an issue at all.
@@Heavensrun The United States doesn't have jurisdiction over any country...when has that ever truly stopped them? Team America, World Police after all.
Well this sets up both The Marvels and Captain America 4 and it did look like Rhodey was wearing a hospital gown so it's possible that they captured him during Civil War
Regarding not being able to find a planet for the Skrulls, we can't really know if G'iah was just making that up. The show has established earlier on that the Skrull transformation is a seperate process from the mind-connection thing that gives them the memories of whomever they're copying. We don't see G'iah transform into Fury, so we don't know whether or not she also took his memories in order to have a real conversation with Gravik. If she didn't, then she would just be saying whatever she needed to make Gravik feel like he's justified and like he's beaten Fury.
There are plenty of planets that are habitable in the MCU. We see several over the movies. I don't think the problem was finding them a new world as much as it was Fury realizing the fact the Skrulls are *hated*. Until this 'peace talk' plot point the Kree would carpet nuke them into oblivion any place they tried to settle, and there are probably a few dozen (hundred) races that would do the same. Maybe that's why he decided, behind the scenes, that the only real way to keep his promise was to try and broker peace between them.
In the Captain Marvel movie, it's established that transformation grants access to recent memories, and quizzing on long-term memory is one way to detect Skrull imposters. Maybe touching with the hand can absorb more, while the machine overcomes natural limitations and allow Skrulls to fully absorb everything. Gi'ah had made contact with Fury to receive the Harvest and be briefed on the plan, so she definitely had access to absorb his memories. Also, from a storytelling standpoint, this scene of long-ass exposition is intended for delivering plot and lore to us viewers. The most logical scenario is that Gi'ah vocalised Fury's true thoughts for the ruse to be as persuasive as possible, in a "tell all because I'm dying and there's no point keeping it in anymore" kinda way. Dropping a bunch of lies, nonsense, and misdirection on the audience in a season finale without clearing it up is plain stupid.
@@gork8468 Trying to find a planet remote enough that the Kree wouldn't find them but with the infrastructure/resources to support a million refugees (and willingness to if the planet is already inhabited) would be a non-trivial exercise.
"Loki" is a "Frost Giant." Thus, the ice weapon availability. They've had that DNA for awhile. "Well let me know if 'real power' wants a magazine or something."
I was wondering where that frost blade came from, they would have had just some random Frost Giant's DNA since Loki died out in space, the whole TVA stuff when Loki stole the Tesseract and vanished was immediately post-Avengers 2012 so its definitely not his DNA, its like how there's other random species DNA included in The Harvest
@@chrispittman8854 Still wouldn't be Loki's DNA, it was specified those were collected after the Battle of Earth that we saw in Endgame, which Loki wasn't there for, therefore it cannot be his power since if he's not there, he couldn't have spilled blood to be collected and stored in The Harvest.
@@funnylilgalreacts He was thinking exactly like the average human being thinks. It might hurt to accept, but that's largely how it would realistically go down. Nobody wants to say it, but the Asgardians look exactly like human beings. Without shapeshifting, that is. Regardless of their strength and other non human abilities, I think that that sort of species-ism would 100% go down. No question.
@@yetibeardson1168 Plus the Asgardians were worshipped as gods by foreign religions in ancient times so that likely gives them a degree of diplomatic immunity like the Latverians,Wakandans and Sokovians. Also the one Asgardian war criminal who led an alien invasion was technically "adopted" and half-Jotun and is also "dead" as far as everybody on Earth knows.
I feel like the skrulls didn't start taking over people until somewhat recently. Like Gravik going bad recent, which seems post-Endgame since he was involved with the DNA gathering.
The thing the both Fury and Sonya understand about spycraft is that the truth can be as much of a tool as a lie - you just have to deploy it judiciously. And that ending actually has a beautiful bit of foreshadowing way back at the start of the series - "I know good looking Skrulls, and you ain't one" indeed...
17:40 Thats actually a great idea, why don't we dont we call Captain Marvel find a big ship and tell every Skrull that we found an empty paradise planet.
The Kree would kill them. "Finding a planet" is different than "Finding a planet you'll be safe on" when you're one of the most warlike and hated races in Marvel. I imagine Fury and Carol asked around to see if anyone had a vacancy and received a thousand variations of 'Screw those guys', which is why it's taken 30 years.
I enjoyed the G'iah reveal and the subsequent fight. On paper I just really didn't expect giving anyone a whole Harvest's worth of powers but they actually did it - and I think letting Gravik do it because you're surprising him with G'iah obtaining the same abilities made perfect sense. Led to a really enjoyable fight, hard not to jump up when Mantis's antennae come out and I agree the look of Emilia Clarke with Captain Marvel's glow was exciting. I have my issues with the show and even the finale (it kinda wrapped up really quick), but that fight might be up there as a favourite among finale showdowns for me. One thing though that makes it kind of awkward is that going into the show and as it progressed I really wasn't expecting much to come from G'iah but now that she has all this power surely she has to become more prominent to the MCU? Which I'd absolutely be all for but I wish the show built her up better for it and I really don't know if/when we'll see her again which has been an issue with characters in these D+ shows.
My theory is that Rhodey isn't wearing the same hospital gown from Civil War. He's probably just abducted during one of his physiotherapy appointments. I saw one comment mention that Rhodey stopped using his IW leg supports in FATWS, so it's possible that was Skrulldey
There are any number of Olivia Colman projects one could recommend, but I'd like to suggest Fleabag for your consideration, assuming you haven't already seen it.
Yeah, he's the President of the United States of America. You expect anything less from someone in that position? It's kind of their whole deal. Fictionally and historically.
He was in a hospital gown though, so unless he got bodysnatched during a colonoscopy or something it seems like they are hinting that he got Skrull'd right after Civil War.
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Fury should've also mentioned that it was a Skrull who gave his life to save the president I honestly feel like that ending could've been mostly avoided, not to mention I don't trust the Kree since they're the reason Skrulls got no home to begin with. But I still respect and even enjoyed the dark path it concluded with.
GREEEAT Reaction, good lady. 1 Gravik is dead. Extremis cannot recoup sudden catastrophic vital organ destruction. In Iron Man 3 Tony killed Savin by blasting out his thorax; Pepper pretty much explosively obliterated Killian. 2 The reason Giah victoriously outperformed Gravik is because all his tactical choices were focused on effective attack and Giah's savvily included effective counterattack: Ghost's evasive Phasing; Mantis's subduing Empathysis. 3 Gravik had two demeanors: Dispassionate ("wooden"), objective minded, canny and cunning, when interacting with the Rebel operatives. Zealous, egomaniacal, spiteful and disillusioned when confronting his failed paternal and avuncular figures Nick Fury and Talos. 4 What many are not getting about President Ritson's xenophobic extremism, is he barely survived an assassination by clandestine extraterrestrials, one of whom was his military attache James Rhodes, who was the usher of the attempted assassination, and goading him into attacking innocent Russia to instigate a world war culminating in the extinction of humanity: P-T-S-D Hyper-vigilance syndrome. 5 And Secret Invasion WAS very Cold War dark and intense, sprinkled with character occasional levity: SONYA FALSWORTH, the Marry Poppins of Cloak and Dagger...butcher shears… pistol... Lastly, the disappointment and dissatisfaction with Secret Wars seems to stem from the story not being chiefly about Nick Fury. I get that, but its title is Secret Invasion, not Nick Fury, it isn't his Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Incredible Hulk feature, it wasn't just the story of his journey, he was just its protagonist. And the events of Nick and Priscilla's relationship was the heart, undertone and theme of the story. The promise of their hopeful reconcilement holds the same for Humanity and Skrulls.
Nick Fury: I have to handle this myself! also Nick Fury: *handles it by giving G'iah a coat, eyepatch, gun, and some Avengers DNA soup, and then fucking off back to space*
Maybe that planet Thanos went to after the Snap was unpopulated because the sentient beings all got dusted, and after the Blip they all came back. The Snap was 50% of (sentient?) life in the universe chosen randomly, which means some planets lost 100% of their people.
So, we just gonna ignore the elephant in the room? Gaia is the most OP character in the MCU now that will be forgotten about when Kang rolls in, or Doctor Doom. This series will be a blip in the overall direction of MCU content.
@@ajclements4627 Just because the Super Skrulls have all the powers doesn't mean they are as good at them. Also, Hela is the most powerful character in the MCU.
so... @funnylolgalreacts Rhodey was not a skrull after civil war, he probably went to the hospital to do something or whatever, maybe got hurt on a mission after "Tony's funeral". And that's when he got kidnapped and why he wasn't in Spider-Man Far From Home i think.
So the show just forgot there is another alien species on Earth everyone knows about. The Asgasrdians. So the Preident just declared war on Asgard. I guess they are doing Siege.
That annoyed me too (as well as another scene in an earlier episode where they never mentioned them), but after thinking about it, I bet it's the fact that Asgardians are identical physically to humans, so it's basically another level of racism (since it was established that the skrulls had to hide what they looked like). Thor being a proven ally probably also shields Asgardians from suspicion. I did think it was stupid that the President declared war on the skrulls in the end, considering Talos was among those that saved him (but then again, humans can be pretty stupid).
And first person to think like me in a reaction (damn 40's).. Roadie couldn't walk on his own since, etc. Sure could be the length of time, but I think Skrulls were more prominent than advertised.
As much as I enjoyed having Nick Fury as the main character and the more grounded, darker, and spy-thriller tone that the MCU has been lacking for a while now, I can't lie that the show overall felt pretty boring and could've used more than 6 episodes
The story could’ve been better executed. That was the biggest problem overall. If they had done that, maybe we could have gone six one-hour episodes that had drama and action go hand in hand. Even Falcon & Winter Soldier did better by comparison, and I definitely enjoyed that show.
Yeah I don't know who made it a rule to make the first 2 episodes long as the rest really short. Three extra minutes an episode isn't too much to ask. Just some dialogue to explain some things is all I wanted.
Phase 4 & 5 so far may not be the best all things considered but I've found parts and characters that I enjoy in every single movie & show. I try to concentrate on that instead of the negatives. After so many movies & shows all the new ones can't be top 5.
All they had to do is offer them settlements in places where nuclear testing was conducted in the 1950s - 1970s, like in the Pacific Islands, or give the land around places where nuclear rectors failed, the radiation wouldn’t kill them and they’d have a variety of places to go. The President basically saying “kill ‘em all” was a bit too much. They contributed a lot to actionable intelligence over decades for the US and her allies, but somehow dropped the ball on the whole Hydra taking over Shield thing.
I loved Kingsley Ben-Adir firstly in Vera; and have since seen him in Peaky Blinders, The OA, and High Fidelity. Him as Gravik is prolly by 2nd fave role of his so far after Vera. Also, yeah, the MCU has definitely fallen from the omg, i MUST watch all the new things from it. I still need to watch Guardians 3, but been catching up on Star Trek: SNW, then have to get caught up on other shows (Warrior, What We Do in the Shadows, Uncanny Counter) before i move to movies. Watched Good Omens while on vacation after mom and bro went to bed early one night... ssssoooo good. :)
I kept waiting to see if Sharon Carter would show up - being a Skrull is still the only thing that would really make sense of her character arc from Civil War to the end of Captain America and the Winter Soldier...but the war certainly isn't over, so plenty of time to see if I'm wrong. Interesting that Gi'ah is probably the most powerful single person in the universe at this point - not sure where you can go with that, or if there's a comic analog that she's a reference to. You've already got Carol Danvers and Wanda Maximoff in there (depending on how much their Infinity Stone energies carry through into their genes), which is pretty terrifying. Throw in completely crazy stuff like the Hulk and Thor and Ebony Maw, presumably anyone else Shield's ever had occasion to interact with (Ghost wasn't in Endgame after all; would they have include newly-mutated Monica Rambeau in there as well?), and the whole Extremis thing on top of it all. And hell...Thanos wasn't exactly unhurt before being dusted. Would they have included him as well?
I honestly was thinking the same thing, she’s basically the strongest character in the MCU now. Hopefully, they’ll introduce a glitch into the abilities where they might not bond properly with alien life or something and those abilities get dialed way back. (Or they just might forget SI is a thing that happened, and we never see the Skrulls again.)
I think I agree with your opinions on the shows. Wandavision is probably the best, though I also REALLY enjoyed Hawkeye (The story was light, smaller scale, and the chemistry between Hailee and Florence is off the scale, they might be my favorite pair-up yet... and I'm biased towards Christmas movies/shows, rofl). This one was a little average for me. I liked the villain and the overall plot sounded awesome, but it needed more episodes IMO, and the finale was WAY too short. I didn't even get comfortable and they were already having the superhero/villain fight, lol. That said, I am looking forward to more Emilia Clarke and Olivia Colman, I think they're a couple of great additions to the MCU, but I'm SUPER sad that Ben Mendelsohn (Talos) won't be back. I've always loved his character. And no, I don't think the Kree are willing to help... I'm assuming we'll find out in The Marvels. :D
My favorite part of this conclusion was the radical conservativism of the US developing in the MCU. Definitely not something I want in the real world but what it does is set up Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts very nicely. And, far out theory/ wild dream, It could potentially set up a plot from the current Avengers comic run that would bring back a fan favorite character, introduce a much wanted villain, and create a super team v. super team scenario. I loved when the comics turned the Avengers from a US centric team to an Earth centric one. I think it's important to not let the US be the default good guys. By never objectively looking in towards ourself, we risk toxic patriotism.
@@alphanerd7221 I'm sorry you feel that way. I am a US citizen and I don't feel like I am crap. Criticism of a group is stereotyping, or simplifying any who apply into one kind of person. If you listen to the criticisms of your group, and they don't apply to you, you should not feel targeted, you should face your group and ask them to take that criticism seriously. If, however, you do feel like the negative stereotypes of your group apply to you, then I'm asking you to take that criticism seriously. You don't have to be a negative stereotype.
@@alphanerd7221 Why? Also please don't try to distract from my very real recommendation to look inwards towards yourself and decide if you think you're a good person. If you believe negative things others say apply to you personally, then why is that? Do they?
I don't normally simp but Olivia Coleman could play Nick Fury and we would believe that he had the operation. What's sad is that before this show I didn't know of her but now I'm looking for things that she has been in just to see what else she can do!
I just realized why Fury and Pricilla seemed familiar together. Charlayne Woodard played Samuel Jacksons mother in Unbreakable. It's been eating at me since i watched it.
I thought it was Fury in the machine too lol I thought they were doing a Super Fury from some video game I played and that's probably a thing in comics too.
All together this was a great series. Could it have been better? Yes but they worked with what they got and made it the best they could. Loved Giah being the one to kill Gravik to avenge her parents deaths. Amazing performances all around. Can't wait to see what comes out of it in the future
Worked with what they got? We don’t even know anything about Giah and her father’s relationship and why they fell out, how her mother died. Talos and Maria just die for shock value. Pretty sure they’re not even gonna mention Giah or any of this in the future
If it was great, then how could it have been better? This was better than She-Hulk, but that's it among MCU shows. It was bad from start to finish with a few decent moments.
If I were Fury, I wouldn't send the Skrulls or ANYONE ELSE to Thanos' garden planet. A planet where all 6 Infinity Gems were last seen? Hell no. Granted, I'm sure Thanos and Fury and the Avengers have no idea, but I'm about 99% sure that it's impossible to destroy the Infinity Gems, even by using all 6 Infinity Gems. The Gems are almost DEFINITELY still on the Garden planet, even if they've perhaps been shrunk to tiny atom size roughly in accordance to what Thanos THINKS he did to them by "reducing them to atoms". Each Gem is sort of a elemental connection to a fundamental aspect of reality. Like as long as Time exists....there will probably be a Time Gem. I don't think anyone but the Abstracts (the true gods), who themselves are the living embodiments of things like Time, Space, Love, Hate, Death, Oblivion, Chaos, Order, etc, would have the ability to destroy the Infinity Gems. Even not knowing all that, I know if I were Nick Fury I wouldn't send ANYONE to the place where the Infinity Gems were last seen. Just in case.
Super reaction. Overall I feel like you, nice series but not "Wandavision" by any means. Key requirements for Skrull Home planet: "safe from the Kree"... This is a major problem as that means it needs to be under protection of another species / political group and how will they like having Skrull neighbours? Alternatively it could be so remote the Kree will never find it... Not great. Fury, it appears, has been working on relations with the Kree to negotiate peace and finds a safe place that way... Which is a neat wrap up!
Hey, Angela! What a lackluster finale that squandered so many opportunities and foolishly establishes G'iah as the most powerful being in the galaxy! Gravik must have evacuated his people from the compound or secured them in a bunker that could withstand the nuke. He wasn't about to massacre the Skrull population. The locked-up people he referred to were probably the human prisoners since he thought he was talking with Fury. The ice spike is a Jotun ability like Loki would have or, perhaps, the Frost Beast. This is one of Marvel's signal events in the comics with huge battles, double-crosses, character deaths and lots of surprises that impacts the Marvel landscape for several years. This show felt cheap and small in scope. It started off promisingly and just fizzled out. The fundamental problem is that the Skrulls were arbitrarily made sympathetic figures way back in "Captain Marvel" which was a terribly bone-headed decision. It's like adapting "The Lord of the Rings" but making the Orcs into good guys. There are noble and kind Skrulls but they are a staple Marvel villain. A seismic shift on that order of magnitude has a ripple effect on many future stories. As audiences were already aware of the Nova Corps, they should have used that interlude between the two finale films to introduce Nova, a space-based hero, by showing the destruction of Xandar as Thanos retrieved the Power Stone in a present-day prologue before flashing back to the past. This would have prevented Carol's back-story from being butchered and the iconic Mar-Vell from being gender-bent. Nova could have rescued Tony and done everything Carol did in "Endgame" without missing a beat. This way, Carol could have waited for her debut when the X-Men were in place and the landmark Marvel event of the Kree-Skrull War could have been adapted as a blockbuster space opera. The Skrulls shouldn't have changed their spots preserving their status as villains. Talos could have deceived Fury and Nova into feeling pity but then betrayed them both costing Nick his eye giving weight to his "Winter Soldier" statement that "the last time he trusted someone, he lost his eye". Nick is scarred, the Tesseract is secured, Nova rejoins the Corps and returns to Earth in the wake of Thanos after being signaled by Fury. The performances by Ben Mendelsohn, Samuel L. Jackson, Charlayne Woodard, Olivia Colman, Don Cheadle and Kingsley Ben-Adir were phenomenal and sadly wasted. This was the perfect platform to introduce the Thunderbolts as the answer to the Super-Skrull threat which would have been a tribute to the comic's climactic partnership between heroes and villains in Central Park. Valentina should have taken the killshot like Norman Osborn in the comics leaving Val in charge of the US intelligence apparatus and Fury disgraced. Instead, G'iah suddenly acquires complete command of a multitude of abilities without any time to acclimate and blows a hole in Gravik who was already expert in their usage! SMH. No explanation of why forested Berhert in "Guardians Vol. 2" wasn't a suitable relocation site. Fury says Skrulls like cold which doesn't track for cold-blooded reptiles but whatever. So, Thanos' garden world is too tropical. Does the planet not have polar regions or tundra regions? Carol's been there in person! Why haven't these folks been moved yet in the seven years since 2018? It just doesn't make any sense. They killed Maria Hill for nothing. This could have been so much better. It seems Rhodey was swapped after "Civil War" since he was in a hospital gown or it might have been after "Endgame" because he wasn't using the leg braces in "Falcon and the Winter Soldier". If before "Civil War", he doesn't know Tony is dead! In the comic, the repatriated captives had to cope with the disorientation of lost time and guilt at the actions committed by their doppelgangers. Hank Pym was gone the longest having missed House of M, Civil War, the assassination of Captain America, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion and the death of Janet! President Ritson declaring all extraterrestrials enemy combatants seems to be laying the groundwork for the Marvel event called "Siege" where the US government assaults Asgard on Earth! Bit of trivia: Charlayne Woodard played Jackson's lover here but played his mom in "Unbreakable" and "Glass"! Yikes!
I assume he’s a political appointee to a civilian oversight role, where his military rank is not relevant. I don’t recall if his position was anything other than Special Envoy/Advisor to the POTUS in matters of … uh, superhuman and non-human concern. Nonetheless, it would have been better to have someone, perhaps the Admiral herself, at least object to the breach in acceptable protocol.
Fr, he would get discplined like fuck unless somehow Skrull Rhodey was since promoted to like Special Adviser to the President or something like that which probably by technicality outranks an Admiral
@@jollyrayda Hmm, one could infer that, I suppose. The whole plan did revolve around convincing a concussed hospital patient to start WWIII without so much as a twenty minute briefing. Puts a bit of pressure on her.
Wasted opportunity to expand on Maria Hill and even Nick Fury. I have no attachments to a lot of the characters they introduced. I barely know or care who Nick Fury’s wife is. Last of Us can get us to fall in love with a new character in 1 episode. Secret Invasion can’t do that with 6
This one started strong, lagged in the middle, but stuck the landing overall. That seems to be the pattern with MCU shows lately (except for She-Hulk, which was hilarious and awesome all the way through). Great reaction as always, looking forward to what's next. 👍✌❤
I liked the tone of this show but I gotta admit, there were some parts where I wondered if maybe they had an AI write some of the scripts alongside doing the intro.
@@yetibeardson1168 "I am insecure and can't believe the thing I like is actually bad." That's you, all over these comments. Get a grip guy the show just isn't good.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse Firstly google what subjectivity means, that should maybe temper your ignorance but I somewhat doubt it. After that question why a TV show has you so upset and butthurt. I asked another commenter for examples for their opinion and here you are taking that personally. So, do you have any examples? Or just gonna stick with the "It's bad and you're wrong" defense like a child?
This finale wasn't the worst and was kinda what She Hulk made fun of. Which is a whole other issue. Gi'ah having these powers I guess means we don't need any Avengers now since shes way too OP, but that could also mean we get way more powerful villains down the line. Idk maybe she doesn't want to do anything besides help her people or something. Looks like we now have Fury back and I anticipate eventually he will cross paths with Val who will try to fill in the role he had before his absence. She's a great antagonist and I think a lot of ppl don't realize she's supposed to be dislikable. This show started off great then fell apart some where along the way.
Rhodey was definitely himself when he got injured by Vision. I do not believe a Skrull could maintain another form while totally unconscious. Rhodey went through surgery, which probably means he was under anesthesia. So I think it's possible he was taken during the time of the snap, maybe when he was tracking Ronin on his own. That would mean the Rhodey we saw in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was a Skrull.
@@skarletfenrir6979seems like everyone is completely missing his clothes. The hospital attire and his inability to walk without assistance more or less tells the story of when he was taken. Post Civil War he never gets hurt enough to require a hospital.
Gravik's actor is in Barbie! That's all I have to contribute to this. This show was a bit disappointing overall, despite the strong performances. First Marvel show that I actually didn't love
I enjoyed Secret Invasion but for me it wasn't as good as it could have been. The entire drama is they don't know who is a Skrull... but they have entirely different genetic makeup to the point their blood is purple. Is it really a massive inconvenience to add genetic screening in secure areas, especially since it can be color based inspection of blood? You always have to disregard reality when watching Marvel stuff, obviously, but the massive threat has never been so obscenely obviously flawed before. Wanda wanting to go to another reality to kill herself and steal her other self's kids made more sense than the secret invasion story line. And where the hell did the budget go in this thing? 212 million for sex hours?
I don't get how the Super Skrulls duplicated Hulk's powers because Hulk's powers are based on gamma radiatio, and it said that the Skrulls were immune to radiation, so I thought that the Skrulls would not be able to replicate Hulk's powers.
Skrulls are not immune to radiation, they just don’t suffer the same ill effects humans do to certain radiation. If they were truly immune, then the Superchamber wouldn’t be able to transform them. As for Banner’s ability, the handwavium comic book science suggests that Hulk powers are transferable/replicable providing you have Banner genes in the mix (either naturally like Jen Walters or via harvested matter). We’re never told _exactly_ what the process is but it’s best to not think too hard on it.
I’m honestly really surprised with all the negative reviews on this series. Yeah I understand some of them like I really do wish the runtimes were longer and they did some things they did the finale episode earlier on and actually show more information about it. But I really enjoyed the series it’s my second favorite after loki and I just really enjoyed this episode and series as a whole. Also rhodey being in the same hospital gown as civil war has me nervous cause imo that would ruin his character. I really wish it’s after endgame because I think he really does need to know about Tony and if he doesn’t that really does ruin his character
You’re surprised by the negative reviews? Why? This series stunk on ice. Fury literally did nothing but get insulted and put a bullet into a couple of skrulls. Rhodey was held hostage for weeks/months and the Skrull impersonating him didn’t use the WM armor to really mess with people. He could have been in the Presidental motorcade, armored up and took out the entire complement of secret service agents and opened his faceplate, letting them see him morph into a Skrull. Then the President would really have been worried how many heroes were Skrulls.
Great reaction like always, i like how sonya and Gi'ah team up i remember that in the Comics Sonya create MI 13 that are a group of Britsh super heros and agents that help the british goverment i think that Dane Whitman aka Black Knight from the Eternals its also join MI 13 (just my opinion). I like this finale and the twists, but it feel a little under, and leaves so many questions unanswered, lets see now what the MCU is gonna do. Keep up the good work.
It's so weird how someone at Marvel just ok'd making G'iah the most powerful hero in the entire MCU and it's not even close. Every single fight from now on will be "why didn't they just call G'iah?" I really held out hope for this, but there were too many duds for me to enjoy it overall. Even Fury leaving, again, at the end bugs me. He's just leaving behind this extermination happening against Skrulls after spending so much time on SABER?
Maybe they'll write in that the process is only temporary and her powers fade after a certain amount of time, reducing her back to a normal Skrull level or something like that, I don't think its permanent
It seems from this portrayal, similar to the comics; super skrulls can manifest one power at a time, or combinations on different parts of their bodies, but cannot be all powered beings at once. Even Gai'h could be taken out by a powerful enough team or force of less powerful army. And on the cosmic MCU scale, there are being yet to come that make her look like a strong but not serious contender.
@@johnniequinn3215 I mean we've already seen the Celestials like Arishem in Eternals and Eternity in Thor 4 who is literally the physical embodiment of the very cosmos itself and has Wish magic basically so yeah we've seen beings way, way, way beyond anything Gi'ah could ever dream of
@@johnniequinn3215 Exactly. She took Gravik out, after all - which really shouldn't have been possible if he'd had Carol, Thor, and Thanos' durability and Hulk's healing factor always on. They should have been beach balls with grudges - bouncing off each other menacingly and accomplishing nothing if that had been the case.
Why are people so preoccupied with "who is the strongest?" type scenarios when it comes to your comic book make believe fantasy stuff? Like honestly when has "who is the most powerful hero" ever mattered at all in this movies? Or even in the comics? Come on. It's storytelling, not a fucking strong man competition.
I'm not gonna lie....I was kind of disappointed. The ending felt rush especially when the president literally called for genocide of all skrulls and Nick Fury's response was basically "damn, that's crazy" & dips, it felt like they were just setting up future films instead of just ending a story. Also the writers basically gave the "villain" a good reason why he was angry but because the writers were afraid that they've made the villain have a point they had to make him kill people in order to show he's bad by fridging both Talos & Maria Hill ( which btw Nick Fury should have showed more of a emotional response of losing her because she was his second in command, I'm still upset about that) as well as committing a terrorist attack. I get the message the writers were trying to get across but it just felt poorly handled. The show had a lot of potential but the Secret Invasion story is too big of an event for it to be a 6 episode show. It could have been Marvel's next Endgame but just like Age of Ultron they just wasted it. I liked Gi'ah, Sonya & Talo's interactions with Nick Fury. I also loved how they let Don Cheadle to emote more as Rhodey ( technically Skrull Rhodey but still). There were parts that I liked that had potential but as it continued I just started to hope it would get better but ended up being very disappointed.
Respectfully disagree, this is the best Marvel content since Endgame. And best series. It's not the comic, it's not supposed to be. The Secret Invasion isn't a literal Invasion of Earth. It's an invasion of the skulls into Fury's personal life, and the repercussions.
Love your perspective on this. You're very humorous too. 😂 I've not watched the show myself as I'm really bored of the MCU and your reactions are entertaining enough anyway. 😊
The finale was okay, I guess. Overall, the whole show was maybe a 6/10 for me. Well... 5.5. I love Samuel L. Jackson. I love Olivia Coleman. Emilia Clarke is very good. The final fight between Gravik and Gaia seemed tacked on, and the powers unearned. There just weren't any stakes. I'm surprised Sonya didn't just go ahead and just kill 'Rhodey'. She's typically not one to hesitate. And, it wouldn't have taken an instant for everyone to know he was an imposter. It was just okay for me. I'm with you in that I will not likely rewatch it. I think part of my problem is that I'm getting a little tired of the E-MCU. (Extended MCU). It's getting to be a bit much. (Now, I haven't seen Guardians 3 yet. But, I am looking forward to it. You referenced it... please, no spoilers. :) I guess we'll see how it goes. In the meantime... thank you, as always, for the watch. I'll look forward to whatever you watch next!
Can you please react to the DEFINITIVE Marvel series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? While all of the other Marvel shows are each amazing in their own light, they all share one GLARING flaw- they're too short. Wandavision was 9 episodes, Secret Invasion/Loki/Falcon and the Winter Soldier/Ms. Marvel were all 6 episodes, and Daredevil was only 3 Netflix length seasons, Jessica Jones/Luke Cage/Iron Fist were all 2 seasons, and Defenders was only 1 season. Meanwhile Agents of Shield was 7 seasons jam packed with everything you love about these shows- adventure, action, heroes, villains, betrayals, love stories, character growth, twist and turns, and so much more!
There was a lot of stuff in the finale that made no sense. G'iah used Frost Giant and Ghost Powers during the super skrull fight. Neither one of them was in Endgame. Also, what happened to the Extremis power? How is it possible to kill Gravik in the way that she did? Importantly, aren't Asgardians aliens? Bullets won't even wound an Asgardian child, and they get stronger with age. A real-world leader would have thought that through before saying it on the air. The sudden paranoia of the president makes no sense. By the way, when did the humans learn how to tell who is a skrull and who is not? The president said, "we know how to find you..." There was no evidence in the show that this was true. In addition, why would anyone give Gravik the harvest? Was there any guarantee that G'iah was going to get into the super skrull machine with him? Makes very little sense from the perspective of a combatant. Finally, why would Nick Fury leave G'iah to be recruited by Sonia? Would a real spy allow the UK to acquire such a powerful ally at the expense of the US? Absolutely doesn't make sense.
@@yetibeardson1168No. Stop bending over backwards to justify lazy writing. It was bad, and the majority opinion speaks for itself. Disney Plus shows have all been a waste of time leading to nothing.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse Let me offer you a solution to stop your butt from hurting so much. Stop watching. I understand that shows that don't have a constant barrage of CGI and lame action sequences can't hold your attention, and that's fine. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Go watch Transformers or Fast and the Furious or whatever.
@@yetibeardson1168 You are nowhere near as smart as you think you are. You're legit taking criticism about a TV show personally against you. Clown status.
I think the ice is meant to be Iceman from the X-men. Because remember in the original X-Men movies with Hugh Jackman where Iceman made his hands in the machete. That's what it looked like
Kingsley Ben-Adir absolutely nailed it with Samuel L Jackson.
Olivia Colman's character is exactly what Valentina should be. She's the only character whose 5 steps ahead of everyone else
She’s great in this series! Badass
Declaring all off-world born creatures as enemies will be a little problematic when it comes to Thor and the Asgardian village.
Not really, they look just like humans(and let's be real, we're racist/species-ist like that) and Thor is an Avenger and a hero so I'm betting it literally won't be an issue at all.
@@yetibeardson1168tell that to the vigilantes who are 100% in with the anti-alien rhetoric
The U.S. president doesn't have jurisdiction over Norway.
@@Heavensrun The United States doesn't have jurisdiction over any country...when has that ever truly stopped them? Team America, World Police after all.
@@yetibeardson1168 Yeah, we are so awful for defeating the NAZI's and Imperial Japan.
I am sooooo down with a Gi'ah/Sonya team up...😎
I would watch the hell out of that
Gaia was putting on a good act with the coughing and the geiger counter.
Olivia Coleman is such an amazing actor, and she was my favorite character of the show
Well this sets up both The Marvels and Captain America 4 and it did look like Rhodey was wearing a hospital gown so it's possible that they captured him during Civil War
I was waiting for Fury to turn into a Skrull himself during the closing with Varra.
Regarding not being able to find a planet for the Skrulls, we can't really know if G'iah was just making that up. The show has established earlier on that the Skrull transformation is a seperate process from the mind-connection thing that gives them the memories of whomever they're copying. We don't see G'iah transform into Fury, so we don't know whether or not she also took his memories in order to have a real conversation with Gravik. If she didn't, then she would just be saying whatever she needed to make Gravik feel like he's justified and like he's beaten Fury.
There are plenty of planets that are habitable in the MCU. We see several over the movies. I don't think the problem was finding them a new world as much as it was Fury realizing the fact the Skrulls are *hated*. Until this 'peace talk' plot point the Kree would carpet nuke them into oblivion any place they tried to settle, and there are probably a few dozen (hundred) races that would do the same. Maybe that's why he decided, behind the scenes, that the only real way to keep his promise was to try and broker peace between them.
In the Captain Marvel movie, it's established that transformation grants access to recent memories, and quizzing on long-term memory is one way to detect Skrull imposters. Maybe touching with the hand can absorb more, while the machine overcomes natural limitations and allow Skrulls to fully absorb everything.
Gi'ah had made contact with Fury to receive the Harvest and be briefed on the plan, so she definitely had access to absorb his memories. Also, from a storytelling standpoint, this scene of long-ass exposition is intended for delivering plot and lore to us viewers.
The most logical scenario is that Gi'ah vocalised Fury's true thoughts for the ruse to be as persuasive as possible, in a "tell all because I'm dying and there's no point keeping it in anymore" kinda way. Dropping a bunch of lies, nonsense, and misdirection on the audience in a season finale without clearing it up is plain stupid.
@@gork8468 Trying to find a planet remote enough that the Kree wouldn't find them but with the infrastructure/resources to support a million refugees (and willingness to if the planet is already inhabited) would be a non-trivial exercise.
"Loki" is a "Frost Giant." Thus, the ice weapon availability. They've had that DNA for awhile. "Well let me know if 'real power' wants a magazine or something."
I was wondering where that frost blade came from, they would have had just some random Frost Giant's DNA since Loki died out in space, the whole TVA stuff when Loki stole the Tesseract and vanished was immediately post-Avengers 2012 so its definitely not his DNA, its like how there's other random species DNA included in The Harvest
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 That timeline was erased... Anything else?
@@chrispittman8854 Still wouldn't be Loki's DNA, it was specified those were collected after the Battle of Earth that we saw in Endgame, which Loki wasn't there for, therefore it cannot be his power since if he's not there, he couldn't have spilled blood to be collected and stored in The Harvest.
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 "Ghost?" For f's sake... Fine, yell up to mom and see if the meatloaf's ready...
@@chrispittman8854 Wtf are you on about?
If Ritson declared war on any off worlders like the Skrulls, then wouldn't that also include the Asgardians as well?
I mean, aliens helped save Earth too. What the hell was he thinking.
@@funnylilgalreactsYeah, Ritson forgot about that. His war won't end well for either side.
He doesn't have jurisdiction in Norway. He's the US president, he doesn't run the entire planet
@@funnylilgalreacts He was thinking exactly like the average human being thinks. It might hurt to accept, but that's largely how it would realistically go down.
Nobody wants to say it, but the Asgardians look exactly like human beings. Without shapeshifting, that is. Regardless of their strength and other non human abilities, I think that that sort of species-ism would 100% go down. No question.
@@yetibeardson1168 Plus the Asgardians were worshipped as gods by foreign religions in ancient times so that likely gives them a degree of diplomatic immunity like the Latverians,Wakandans and Sokovians. Also the one Asgardian war criminal who led an alien invasion was technically "adopted" and half-Jotun and is also "dead" as far as everybody on Earth knows.
I feel like the skrulls didn't start taking over people until somewhat recently. Like Gravik going bad recent, which seems post-Endgame since he was involved with the DNA gathering.
The thing the both Fury and Sonya understand about spycraft is that the truth can be as much of a tool as a lie - you just have to deploy it judiciously.
And that ending actually has a beautiful bit of foreshadowing way back at the start of the series - "I know good looking Skrulls, and you ain't one" indeed...
17:40 Thats actually a great idea, why don't we dont we call Captain Marvel find a big ship and tell every Skrull that we found an empty paradise planet.
The Kree would kill them. "Finding a planet" is different than "Finding a planet you'll be safe on" when you're one of the most warlike and hated races in Marvel. I imagine Fury and Carol asked around to see if anyone had a vacancy and received a thousand variations of 'Screw those guys', which is why it's taken 30 years.
I enjoyed the G'iah reveal and the subsequent fight. On paper I just really didn't expect giving anyone a whole Harvest's worth of powers but they actually did it - and I think letting Gravik do it because you're surprising him with G'iah obtaining the same abilities made perfect sense.
Led to a really enjoyable fight, hard not to jump up when Mantis's antennae come out and I agree the look of Emilia Clarke with Captain Marvel's glow was exciting. I have my issues with the show and even the finale (it kinda wrapped up really quick), but that fight might be up there as a favourite among finale showdowns for me.
One thing though that makes it kind of awkward is that going into the show and as it progressed I really wasn't expecting much to come from G'iah but now that she has all this power surely she has to become more prominent to the MCU? Which I'd absolutely be all for but I wish the show built her up better for it and I really don't know if/when we'll see her again which has been an issue with characters in these D+ shows.
For how much G'iah was in this show, I feel like we don't really know much about her personality or background beyond what we've been told
My theory is that Rhodey isn't wearing the same hospital gown from Civil War. He's probably just abducted during one of his physiotherapy appointments.
I saw one comment mention that Rhodey stopped using his IW leg supports in FATWS, so it's possible that was Skrulldey
There are any number of Olivia Colman projects one could recommend, but I'd like to suggest Fleabag for your consideration, assuming you haven't already seen it.
I loved Fleabag
So, the president just ruled that Skrulls and Asgardians are enemies...
Yeah, he's the President of the United States of America. You expect anything less from someone in that position? It's kind of their whole deal. Fictionally and historically.
@@yetibeardson1168 Tell me you're an ignorant kid, without telling me. This one takes the cake.
Rhodey’s been wearing his braces through TFATWS, and here, his legs don’t work. So they got him after that
TFATWS = what??
@@barelywatch9278 the falcon and the winter soldier
@@barelywatch9278The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
He was in a hospital gown though, so unless he got bodysnatched during a colonoscopy or something it seems like they are hinting that he got Skrull'd right after Civil War.
@@barelywatch9278 The Falcon and the Winter Soldier
Thanos planet is what I said! He was alone there. Perfect place for the Skrulls.
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Fury should've also mentioned that it was a Skrull who gave his life to save the president I honestly feel like that ending could've been mostly avoided, not to mention I don't trust the Kree since they're the reason Skrulls got no home to begin with. But I still respect and even enjoyed the dark path it concluded with.
GREEEAT Reaction, good lady.
1 Gravik is dead. Extremis cannot recoup sudden catastrophic vital organ destruction. In Iron Man 3 Tony killed Savin by blasting out his thorax; Pepper pretty much explosively obliterated Killian.
2 The reason Giah victoriously outperformed Gravik is because all his tactical choices were focused on effective attack and Giah's savvily included effective counterattack: Ghost's evasive Phasing; Mantis's subduing Empathysis.
3 Gravik had two demeanors:
Dispassionate ("wooden"), objective minded, canny and cunning, when interacting with the Rebel operatives.
Zealous, egomaniacal, spiteful and disillusioned when confronting his failed paternal and avuncular figures Nick Fury and Talos.
4 What many are not getting about President Ritson's xenophobic extremism, is he barely survived an assassination by clandestine extraterrestrials, one of whom was his military attache James Rhodes, who was the usher of the attempted assassination, and goading him into attacking innocent Russia to instigate a world war culminating in the extinction of humanity:
P-T-S-D Hyper-vigilance syndrome.
5 And Secret Invasion WAS very Cold War dark and intense, sprinkled with character occasional levity: SONYA FALSWORTH, the Marry Poppins of Cloak and Dagger...butcher shears… pistol...
Lastly, the disappointment and dissatisfaction with Secret Wars seems to stem from the story not being chiefly about Nick Fury. I get that, but its title is Secret Invasion, not Nick Fury, it isn't his Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Incredible Hulk feature, it wasn't just the story of his journey, he was just its protagonist. And the events of Nick and Priscilla's relationship was the heart, undertone and theme of the story. The promise of their hopeful reconcilement holds the same for Humanity and Skrulls.
Nick Fury: I have to handle this myself!
also Nick Fury: *handles it by giving G'iah a coat, eyepatch, gun, and some Avengers DNA soup, and then fucking off back to space*
I really loved this show and the ending, despite the internet telling me not too! Glad to see others did as well!
"Bloodbath of Snark" was the name of my high school Ska-Punk band.
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Band of Brothers. The Pacific.
Master and Commander the Far Side of the World.
Or maybe be the first reactor to react to: Patton.
Rhodey was switched out after Endgame. Gravik didn't start replacing people until after Fury went up to SABRE.
Maybe that planet Thanos went to after the Snap was unpopulated because the sentient beings all got dusted, and after the Blip they all came back. The Snap was 50% of (sentient?) life in the universe chosen randomly, which means some planets lost 100% of their people.
Ice blade is probably from frost giants, and the phasing is definitely from Ghost from Antman and the Wasp
Except.... Ghost definitely wasn't at the Battle of Earth. Neither was Abomination.
They already showed that they were collecting other DNA samples, like Extremis and Groot.
So, we just gonna ignore the elephant in the room? Gaia is the most OP character in the MCU now that will be forgotten about when Kang rolls in, or Doctor Doom.
This series will be a blip in the overall direction of MCU content.
@@ajclements4627 Just because the Super Skrulls have all the powers doesn't mean they are as good at them. Also, Hela is the most powerful character in the MCU.
Watched the Barbie movie halfway through watching this series -- was a bit of a mind trip to see the same actor playing Gravik & Ken
so... @funnylolgalreacts Rhodey was not a skrull after civil war, he probably went to the hospital to do something or whatever, maybe got hurt on a mission after "Tony's funeral". And that's when he got kidnapped and why he wasn't in Spider-Man Far From Home i think.
3:02 "I will screw everything..."
_excited inhale_
"...up."
_disappointed exhale_
So the show just forgot there is another alien species on Earth everyone knows about. The Asgasrdians. So the Preident just declared war on Asgard. I guess they are doing Siege.
Exactly.
That annoyed me too (as well as another scene in an earlier episode where they never mentioned them), but after thinking about it, I bet it's the fact that Asgardians are identical physically to humans, so it's basically another level of racism (since it was established that the skrulls had to hide what they looked like). Thor being a proven ally probably also shields Asgardians from suspicion. I did think it was stupid that the President declared war on the skrulls in the end, considering Talos was among those that saved him (but then again, humans can be pretty stupid).
This will lead into the phase: 'The Marvels', ' Armor Wars', 'Captain America'
And first person to think like me in a reaction (damn 40's).. Roadie couldn't walk on his own since, etc. Sure could be the length of time, but I think Skrulls were more prominent than advertised.
What gets me is those people were held in a radiation contained zone for weeks/months and they apparently had no radiation poisoning.
This is before Marvel's that's Fury
It's like yawning for me.. see someone do it.. and YAAAAAWWWNN
As much as I enjoyed having Nick Fury as the main character and the more grounded, darker, and spy-thriller tone that the MCU has been lacking for a while now, I can't lie that the show overall felt pretty boring and could've used more than 6 episodes
The story could’ve been better executed. That was the biggest problem overall. If they had done that, maybe we could have gone six one-hour episodes that had drama and action go hand in hand. Even Falcon & Winter Soldier did better by comparison, and I definitely enjoyed that show.
Yeah I don't know who made it a rule to make the first 2 episodes long as the rest really short. Three extra minutes an episode isn't too much to ask. Just some dialogue to explain some things is all I wanted.
Phase 4 & 5 so far may not be the best all things considered but I've found parts and characters that I enjoy in every single movie & show. I try to concentrate on that instead of the negatives. After so many movies & shows all the new ones can't be top 5.
I am wondering if they might introduce the savage land as a place for the scrolls, as they like the cold.
All they had to do is offer them settlements in places where nuclear testing was conducted in the 1950s - 1970s, like in the Pacific Islands, or give the land around places where nuclear rectors failed, the radiation wouldn’t kill them and they’d have a variety of places to go.
The President basically saying “kill ‘em all” was a bit too much. They contributed a lot to actionable intelligence over decades for the US and her allies, but somehow dropped the ball on the whole Hydra taking over Shield thing.
I loved Kingsley Ben-Adir firstly in Vera; and have since seen him in Peaky Blinders, The OA, and High Fidelity. Him as Gravik is prolly by 2nd fave role of his so far after Vera.
Also, yeah, the MCU has definitely fallen from the omg, i MUST watch all the new things from it. I still need to watch Guardians 3, but been catching up on Star Trek: SNW, then have to get caught up on other shows (Warrior, What We Do in the Shadows, Uncanny Counter) before i move to movies. Watched Good Omens while on vacation after mom and bro went to bed early one night...
ssssoooo good. :)
Olivia Colman made this season.
I kept waiting to see if Sharon Carter would show up - being a Skrull is still the only thing that would really make sense of her character arc from Civil War to the end of Captain America and the Winter Soldier...but the war certainly isn't over, so plenty of time to see if I'm wrong.
Interesting that Gi'ah is probably the most powerful single person in the universe at this point - not sure where you can go with that, or if there's a comic analog that she's a reference to. You've already got Carol Danvers and Wanda Maximoff in there (depending on how much their Infinity Stone energies carry through into their genes), which is pretty terrifying. Throw in completely crazy stuff like the Hulk and Thor and Ebony Maw, presumably anyone else Shield's ever had occasion to interact with (Ghost wasn't in Endgame after all; would they have include newly-mutated Monica Rambeau in there as well?), and the whole Extremis thing on top of it all. And hell...Thanos wasn't exactly unhurt before being dusted. Would they have included him as well?
I honestly was thinking the same thing, she’s basically the strongest character in the MCU now. Hopefully, they’ll introduce a glitch into the abilities where they might not bond properly with alien life or something and those abilities get dialed way back.
(Or they just might forget SI is a thing that happened, and we never see the Skrulls again.)
Yes Marvel has alot of explaining to do
So was the people trying to get She Hulk blood working for Fury or Gravic?
(Nice THANOS WAS RIGHT as seen in Hawkeye mug ;-) )
Skruman 😅😅😅😅. Wait how do you spell that ? That's brilliant
G'iah punched a Captain Marvel hole clear through Gravik and then stood over him (which he did not do with her).
Excellent Angela, what a surprise as I'm on night shift and it's 02.00 am here , I have been looking forward to your reaction all day!
AHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Crap, I forgot it was today!
I'm about to go watch right now then come back lool!
I think I agree with your opinions on the shows. Wandavision is probably the best, though I also REALLY enjoyed Hawkeye (The story was light, smaller scale, and the chemistry between Hailee and Florence is off the scale, they might be my favorite pair-up yet... and I'm biased towards Christmas movies/shows, rofl). This one was a little average for me. I liked the villain and the overall plot sounded awesome, but it needed more episodes IMO, and the finale was WAY too short. I didn't even get comfortable and they were already having the superhero/villain fight, lol.
That said, I am looking forward to more Emilia Clarke and Olivia Colman, I think they're a couple of great additions to the MCU, but I'm SUPER sad that Ben Mendelsohn (Talos) won't be back. I've always loved his character. And no, I don't think the Kree are willing to help... I'm assuming we'll find out in The Marvels. :D
Hi Angela! I love your content. Have you seen The Green Knight? If not, can you put on your list of movies to warch? It's really good.
29:40 Skrullady
My favorite part of this conclusion was the radical conservativism of the US developing in the MCU. Definitely not something I want in the real world but what it does is set up Captain America 4 and Thunderbolts very nicely. And, far out theory/ wild dream, It could potentially set up a plot from the current Avengers comic run that would bring back a fan favorite character, introduce a much wanted villain, and create a super team v. super team scenario. I loved when the comics turned the Avengers from a US centric team to an Earth centric one. I think it's important to not let the US be the default good guys. By never objectively looking in towards ourself, we risk toxic patriotism.
The US has heard enough of how crappy it is. Tell people they are crap long enough and they will believe it.
@@alphanerd7221 I'm sorry you feel that way. I am a US citizen and I don't feel like I am crap. Criticism of a group is stereotyping, or simplifying any who apply into one kind of person. If you listen to the criticisms of your group, and they don't apply to you, you should not feel targeted, you should face your group and ask them to take that criticism seriously. If, however, you do feel like the negative stereotypes of your group apply to you, then I'm asking you to take that criticism seriously. You don't have to be a negative stereotype.
@@MKnowS I don't believe you are American at all.
@@alphanerd7221 Why?
Also please don't try to distract from my very real recommendation to look inwards towards yourself and decide if you think you're a good person. If you believe negative things others say apply to you personally, then why is that? Do they?
I don't normally simp but Olivia Coleman could play Nick Fury and we would believe that he had the operation. What's sad is that before this show I didn't know of her but now I'm looking for things that she has been in just to see what else she can do!
"G'iah" could help build the "Excalibur" team.
I just realized why Fury and Pricilla seemed familiar together. Charlayne Woodard played Samuel Jacksons mother in Unbreakable. It's been eating at me since i watched it.
I thought it was Fury in the machine too lol I thought they were doing a Super Fury from some video game I played and that's probably a thing in comics too.
All together this was a great series. Could it have been better? Yes but they worked with what they got and made it the best they could. Loved Giah being the one to kill Gravik to avenge her parents deaths. Amazing performances all around. Can't wait to see what comes out of it in the future
Worked with what they got? We don’t even know anything about Giah and her father’s relationship and why they fell out, how her mother died. Talos and Maria just die for shock value. Pretty sure they’re not even gonna mention Giah or any of this in the future
*Nothing* will come from this series.
If it was great, then how could it have been better?
This was better than She-Hulk, but that's it among MCU shows. It was bad from start to finish with a few decent moments.
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2:40 S.A.B.E.R.
That final fight was epic
Maria Hill deserved a better ending.
100%!!!!!!!
Why?
Hill is a much more fleshed out character in the comics compared to her in the MCU.
@@ajclements4627 Cool, this isn't the comics though.
@@yetibeardson1168 Wow, thanks Captain Obvious!
If I were Fury, I wouldn't send the Skrulls or ANYONE ELSE to Thanos' garden planet.
A planet where all 6 Infinity Gems were last seen? Hell no.
Granted, I'm sure Thanos and Fury and the Avengers have no idea, but I'm about 99% sure that it's impossible to destroy the Infinity Gems, even by using all 6 Infinity Gems.
The Gems are almost DEFINITELY still on the Garden planet, even if they've perhaps been shrunk to tiny atom size roughly in accordance to what Thanos THINKS he did to them by "reducing them to atoms".
Each Gem is sort of a elemental connection to a fundamental aspect of reality.
Like as long as Time exists....there will probably be a Time Gem.
I don't think anyone but the Abstracts (the true gods), who themselves are the living embodiments of things like Time, Space, Love, Hate, Death, Oblivion, Chaos, Order, etc, would have the ability to destroy the Infinity Gems.
Even not knowing all that, I know if I were Nick Fury I wouldn't send ANYONE to the place where the Infinity Gems were last seen.
Just in case.
Ignore other parts/points of this show
Do you think Killing character like 'Maria Hill' is good decision?
Thano’s planet he retired on. The population was probably replenished after the Iron Man snap.
Rule #2.
Double tap
Can you do hijack series it’s a good show
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I liked it. I was hoping for an X-Men Easter egg at the end but I guess I still have to wait.
Super reaction. Overall I feel like you, nice series but not "Wandavision" by any means.
Key requirements for Skrull Home planet: "safe from the Kree"...
This is a major problem as that means it needs to be under protection of another species / political group and how will they like having Skrull neighbours?
Alternatively it could be so remote the Kree will never find it... Not great.
Fury, it appears, has been working on relations with the Kree to negotiate peace and finds a safe place that way... Which is a neat wrap up!
Yes since vision shot him
Hey, Angela! What a lackluster finale that squandered so many opportunities and foolishly establishes G'iah as the most powerful being in the galaxy!
Gravik must have evacuated his people from the compound or secured them in a bunker that could withstand the nuke. He wasn't about to massacre the Skrull population. The locked-up people he referred to were probably the human prisoners since he thought he was talking with Fury.
The ice spike is a Jotun ability like Loki would have or, perhaps, the Frost Beast.
This is one of Marvel's signal events in the comics with huge battles, double-crosses, character deaths and lots of surprises that impacts the Marvel landscape for several years.
This show felt cheap and small in scope. It started off promisingly and just fizzled out.
The fundamental problem is that the Skrulls were arbitrarily made sympathetic figures way back in "Captain Marvel" which was a terribly bone-headed decision. It's like adapting "The Lord of the Rings" but making the Orcs into good guys. There are noble and kind Skrulls but they are a staple Marvel villain. A seismic shift on that order of magnitude has a ripple effect on many future stories. As audiences were already aware of the Nova Corps, they should have used that interlude between the two finale films to introduce Nova, a space-based hero, by showing the destruction of Xandar as Thanos retrieved the Power Stone in a present-day prologue before flashing back to the past. This would have prevented Carol's back-story from being butchered and the iconic Mar-Vell from being gender-bent. Nova could have rescued Tony and done everything Carol did in "Endgame" without missing a beat. This way, Carol could have waited for her debut when the X-Men were in place and the landmark Marvel event of the Kree-Skrull War could have been adapted as a blockbuster space opera. The Skrulls shouldn't have changed their spots preserving their status as villains. Talos could have deceived Fury and Nova into feeling pity but then betrayed them both costing Nick his eye giving weight to his "Winter Soldier" statement that "the last time he trusted someone, he lost his eye". Nick is scarred, the Tesseract is secured, Nova rejoins the Corps and returns to Earth in the wake of Thanos after being signaled by Fury.
The performances by Ben Mendelsohn, Samuel L. Jackson, Charlayne Woodard, Olivia Colman, Don Cheadle and Kingsley Ben-Adir were phenomenal and sadly wasted.
This was the perfect platform to introduce the Thunderbolts as the answer to the Super-Skrull threat which would have been a tribute to the comic's climactic partnership between heroes and villains in Central Park. Valentina should have taken the killshot like Norman Osborn in the comics leaving Val in charge of the US intelligence apparatus and Fury disgraced. Instead, G'iah suddenly acquires complete command of a multitude of abilities without any time to acclimate and blows a hole in Gravik who was already expert in their usage! SMH.
No explanation of why forested Berhert in "Guardians Vol. 2" wasn't a suitable relocation site. Fury says Skrulls like cold which doesn't track for cold-blooded reptiles but whatever. So, Thanos' garden world is too tropical. Does the planet not have polar regions or tundra regions? Carol's been there in person! Why haven't these folks been moved yet in the seven years since 2018? It just doesn't make any sense.
They killed Maria Hill for nothing. This could have been so much better.
It seems Rhodey was swapped after "Civil War" since he was in a hospital gown or it might have been after "Endgame" because he wasn't using the leg braces in "Falcon and the Winter Soldier". If before "Civil War", he doesn't know Tony is dead! In the comic, the repatriated captives had to cope with the disorientation of lost time and guilt at the actions committed by their doppelgangers. Hank Pym was gone the longest having missed House of M, Civil War, the assassination of Captain America, World War Hulk, Secret Invasion and the death of Janet!
President Ritson declaring all extraterrestrials enemy combatants seems to be laying the groundwork for the Marvel event called "Siege" where the US government assaults Asgard on Earth!
Bit of trivia: Charlayne Woodard played Jackson's lover here but played his mom in "Unbreakable" and "Glass"! Yikes!
Rhodey has the rank of colonel; how the fuck is he getting away with telling an *admiral* they’re stupid. It’s insanely goofy writing
THAT BOTHERED ME
I assume he’s a political appointee to a civilian oversight role, where his military rank is not relevant. I don’t recall if his position was anything other than Special Envoy/Advisor to the POTUS in matters of … uh, superhuman and non-human concern.
Nonetheless, it would have been better to have someone, perhaps the Admiral herself, at least object to the breach in acceptable protocol.
Fr, he would get discplined like fuck unless somehow Skrull Rhodey was since promoted to like Special Adviser to the President or something like that which probably by technicality outranks an Admiral
Maybe meant to be a sign that Rava is getting sloppy with her Rhodey impersonation because she's getting frustrated?
@@jollyrayda Hmm, one could infer that, I suppose. The whole plan did revolve around convincing a concussed hospital patient to start WWIII without so much as a twenty minute briefing.
Puts a bit of pressure on her.
I hope the outcome of this show has an actual impact on the rest of the MCU
We'll see that impact in Armor Wars & Captain America: Brave New World
No, this series will be forgotten by the next movie. As it should be.
Wasted opportunity to expand on Maria Hill and even Nick Fury. I have no attachments to a lot of the characters they introduced. I barely know or care who Nick Fury’s wife is. Last of Us can get us to fall in love with a new character in 1 episode. Secret Invasion can’t do that with 6
I like her, and I like him having someone, but it wasn't built enough. It still pulled at my heart strings, but Bill and Frank broke me.
This one started strong, lagged in the middle, but stuck the landing overall. That seems to be the pattern with MCU shows lately (except for She-Hulk, which was hilarious and awesome all the way through). Great reaction as always, looking forward to what's next. 👍✌❤
I liked the tone of this show but I gotta admit, there were some parts where I wondered if maybe they had an AI write some of the scripts alongside doing the intro.
Let's hear your examples.
@@yetibeardson1168 "I am insecure and can't believe the thing I like is actually bad." That's you, all over these comments. Get a grip guy the show just isn't good.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse Firstly google what subjectivity means, that should maybe temper your ignorance but I somewhat doubt it.
After that question why a TV show has you so upset and butthurt. I asked another commenter for examples for their opinion and here you are taking that personally.
So, do you have any examples? Or just gonna stick with the "It's bad and you're wrong" defense like a child?
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Calling everyone that disagrees with you “butthurt” says more about you than everyone else.
@@ajclements4627 Oh sorry, I guess you're more the ass pained variety then.
This finale wasn't the worst and was kinda what She Hulk made fun of. Which is a whole other issue. Gi'ah having these powers I guess means we don't need any Avengers now since shes way too OP, but that could also mean we get way more powerful villains down the line. Idk maybe she doesn't want to do anything besides help her people or something. Looks like we now have Fury back and I anticipate eventually he will cross paths with Val who will try to fill in the role he had before his absence. She's a great antagonist and I think a lot of ppl don't realize she's supposed to be dislikable. This show started off great then fell apart some where along the way.
Also the ppl who were captured by the skrulls seemed okay despite the radiation they've been exposed to for however long they've been there.
@@wwfnbafanThey said earlier in the series that the room they are in is shielded for radiation.
Rhodey was definitely himself when he got injured by Vision. I do not believe a Skrull could maintain another form while totally unconscious. Rhodey went through surgery, which probably means he was under anesthesia. So I think it's possible he was taken during the time of the snap, maybe when he was tracking Ronin on his own. That would mean the Rhodey we saw in The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was a Skrull.
He was in a hospital gown so he had to have been taken when he was still recovering from surgery
@@skarletfenrir6979seems like everyone is completely missing his clothes. The hospital attire and his inability to walk without assistance more or less tells the story of when he was taken. Post Civil War he never gets hurt enough to require a hospital.
Gravik's actor is in Barbie! That's all I have to contribute to this. This show was a bit disappointing overall, despite the strong performances. First Marvel show that I actually didn't love
I enjoyed Secret Invasion but for me it wasn't as good as it could have been. The entire drama is they don't know who is a Skrull... but they have entirely different genetic makeup to the point their blood is purple. Is it really a massive inconvenience to add genetic screening in secure areas, especially since it can be color based inspection of blood? You always have to disregard reality when watching Marvel stuff, obviously, but the massive threat has never been so obscenely obviously flawed before. Wanda wanting to go to another reality to kill herself and steal her other self's kids made more sense than the secret invasion story line. And where the hell did the budget go in this thing? 212 million for sex hours?
Fury said Skrulls like the cold. They could live on Pluto. They would still be close enough to Earth to help out.
I don't get how the Super Skrulls duplicated Hulk's powers because Hulk's powers are based on gamma radiatio, and it said that the Skrulls were immune to radiation, so I thought that the Skrulls would not be able to replicate Hulk's powers.
That's not how immunity or powers work.
Skrulls are not immune to radiation, they just don’t suffer the same ill effects humans do to certain radiation. If they were truly immune, then the Superchamber wouldn’t be able to transform them.
As for Banner’s ability, the handwavium comic book science suggests that Hulk powers are transferable/replicable providing you have Banner genes in the mix (either naturally like Jen Walters or via harvested matter). We’re never told _exactly_ what the process is but it’s best to not think too hard on it.
I mean She-Hulk got his powers by Bruce's blood mixing with her's so we know its transferrable via blood at the very least
It's all based on comic books. Best not to try and overthink the logic behind all of this. Because, there is none.
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Yet a lot of us enjoy trying to figure out ways to make vague writing work, no need to get your shorts all bunched up.
I’m honestly really surprised with all the negative reviews on this series. Yeah I understand some of them like I really do wish the runtimes were longer and they did some things they did the finale episode earlier on and actually show more information about it. But I really enjoyed the series it’s my second favorite after loki and I just really enjoyed this episode and series as a whole. Also rhodey being in the same hospital gown as civil war has me nervous cause imo that would ruin his character. I really wish it’s after endgame because I think he really does need to know about Tony and if he doesn’t that really does ruin his character
You’re surprised by the negative reviews? Why? This series stunk on ice. Fury literally did nothing but get insulted and put a bullet into a couple of skrulls. Rhodey was held hostage for weeks/months and the Skrull impersonating him didn’t use the WM armor to really mess with people. He could have been in the Presidental motorcade, armored up and took out the entire complement of secret service agents and opened his faceplate, letting them see him morph into a Skrull.
Then the President would really have been worried how many heroes were Skrulls.
The end is a great additional lead into Dark Avengers. Oooph.
Extremis... Iron Man 3.... Extremis is also in another series that you should watch. Thanos was right the second time in Endgame...
Agents of Shield sadly isn't canon, Kevin Feige personally made sure of that, he despises it for some weird reason that he's never once explained
@@thatlonewolfguy2878 Well it is objectively terrible.
Great reaction like always, i like how sonya and Gi'ah team up i remember that in the Comics Sonya create MI 13 that are a group of Britsh super heros and agents that help the british goverment i think that Dane Whitman aka Black Knight from the Eternals its also join MI 13 (just my opinion). I like this finale and the twists, but it feel a little under, and leaves so many questions unanswered, lets see now what the MCU is gonna do. Keep up the good work.
I was expecting a little in the finale, but I like the unique ending.
Uh now that Nick Fury's house is empty, I have the urge to call Air BNB 😁
It's so weird how someone at Marvel just ok'd making G'iah the most powerful hero in the entire MCU and it's not even close. Every single fight from now on will be "why didn't they just call G'iah?"
I really held out hope for this, but there were too many duds for me to enjoy it overall.
Even Fury leaving, again, at the end bugs me. He's just leaving behind this extermination happening against Skrulls after spending so much time on SABER?
Maybe they'll write in that the process is only temporary and her powers fade after a certain amount of time, reducing her back to a normal Skrull level or something like that, I don't think its permanent
It seems from this portrayal, similar to the comics; super skrulls can manifest one power at a time, or combinations on different parts of their bodies, but cannot be all powered beings at once. Even Gai'h could be taken out by a powerful enough team or force of less powerful army. And on the cosmic MCU scale, there are being yet to come that make her look like a strong but not serious contender.
@@johnniequinn3215 I mean we've already seen the Celestials like Arishem in Eternals and Eternity in Thor 4 who is literally the physical embodiment of the very cosmos itself and has Wish magic basically so yeah we've seen beings way, way, way beyond anything Gi'ah could ever dream of
@@johnniequinn3215 Exactly. She took Gravik out, after all - which really shouldn't have been possible if he'd had Carol, Thor, and Thanos' durability and Hulk's healing factor always on. They should have been beach balls with grudges - bouncing off each other menacingly and accomplishing nothing if that had been the case.
Why are people so preoccupied with "who is the strongest?" type scenarios when it comes to your comic book make believe fantasy stuff?
Like honestly when has "who is the most powerful hero" ever mattered at all in this movies? Or even in the comics? Come on. It's storytelling, not a fucking strong man competition.
I'm not gonna lie....I was kind of disappointed. The ending felt rush especially when the president literally called for genocide of all skrulls and Nick Fury's response was basically "damn, that's crazy" & dips, it felt like they were just setting up future films instead of just ending a story. Also the writers basically gave the "villain" a good reason why he was angry but because the writers were afraid that they've made the villain have a point they had to make him kill people in order to show he's bad by fridging both Talos & Maria Hill ( which btw Nick Fury should have showed more of a emotional response of losing her because she was his second in command, I'm still upset about that) as well as committing a terrorist attack. I get the message the writers were trying to get across but it just felt poorly handled. The show had a lot of potential but the Secret Invasion story is too big of an event for it to be a 6 episode show. It could have been Marvel's next Endgame but just like Age of Ultron they just wasted it. I liked Gi'ah, Sonya & Talo's interactions with Nick Fury. I also loved how they let Don Cheadle to emote more as Rhodey ( technically Skrull Rhodey but still). There were parts that I liked that had potential but as it continued I just started to hope it would get better but ended up being very disappointed.
Respectfully disagree, this is the best Marvel content since Endgame. And best series. It's not the comic, it's not supposed to be. The Secret Invasion isn't a literal Invasion of Earth. It's an invasion of the skulls into Fury's personal life, and the repercussions.
He didn't really have a good reason to be angry.
Love your perspective on this. You're very humorous too. 😂
I've not watched the show myself as I'm really bored of the MCU and your reactions are entertaining enough anyway. 😊
The finale was okay, I guess. Overall, the whole show was maybe a 6/10 for me. Well... 5.5. I love Samuel L. Jackson. I love Olivia Coleman. Emilia Clarke is very good. The final fight between Gravik and Gaia seemed tacked on, and the powers unearned. There just weren't any stakes. I'm surprised Sonya didn't just go ahead and just kill 'Rhodey'. She's typically not one to hesitate. And, it wouldn't have taken an instant for everyone to know he was an imposter.
It was just okay for me. I'm with you in that I will not likely rewatch it.
I think part of my problem is that I'm getting a little tired of the E-MCU. (Extended MCU). It's getting to be a bit much. (Now, I haven't seen Guardians 3 yet. But, I am looking forward to it. You referenced it... please, no spoilers. :) I guess we'll see how it goes.
In the meantime... thank you, as always, for the watch. I'll look forward to whatever you watch next!
I feel like a show about an invasion by shape-shifting aliens should have some more effects on the status quo. Instead, we get nothing.
Can you please react to the DEFINITIVE Marvel series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? While all of the other Marvel shows are each amazing in their own light, they all share one GLARING flaw- they're too short. Wandavision was 9 episodes, Secret Invasion/Loki/Falcon and the Winter Soldier/Ms. Marvel were all 6 episodes, and Daredevil was only 3 Netflix length seasons, Jessica Jones/Luke Cage/Iron Fist were all 2 seasons, and Defenders was only 1 season. Meanwhile Agents of Shield was 7 seasons jam packed with everything you love about these shows- adventure, action, heroes, villains, betrayals, love stories, character growth, twist and turns, and so much more!
There was a lot of stuff in the finale that made no sense. G'iah used Frost Giant and Ghost Powers during the super skrull fight. Neither one of them was in Endgame. Also, what happened to the Extremis power? How is it possible to kill Gravik in the way that she did? Importantly, aren't Asgardians aliens? Bullets won't even wound an Asgardian child, and they get stronger with age. A real-world leader would have thought that through before saying it on the air. The sudden paranoia of the president makes no sense. By the way, when did the humans learn how to tell who is a skrull and who is not? The president said, "we know how to find you..." There was no evidence in the show that this was true. In addition, why would anyone give Gravik the harvest? Was there any guarantee that G'iah was going to get into the super skrull machine with him? Makes very little sense from the perspective of a combatant. Finally, why would Nick Fury leave G'iah to be recruited by Sonia? Would a real spy allow the UK to acquire such a powerful ally at the expense of the US? Absolutely doesn't make sense.
Loved the first 5 episodes. This one was not very good. It felt so out of place and didn't resolve anything
Maybe you should watch it again and actually pay attention this time.
@@yetibeardson1168No. Stop bending over backwards to justify lazy writing. It was bad, and the majority opinion speaks for itself. Disney Plus shows have all been a waste of time leading to nothing.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse Let me offer you a solution to stop your butt from hurting so much. Stop watching. I understand that shows that don't have a constant barrage of CGI and lame action sequences can't hold your attention, and that's fine. Nobody is holding a gun to your head. Go watch Transformers or Fast and the Furious or whatever.
@@yetibeardson1168 You are nowhere near as smart as you think you are. You're legit taking criticism about a TV show personally against you. Clown status.
@@yetibeardson1168You're the one who needs to watch again instead of just blindly rubber stamping an inferior product.
I think the ice is meant to be Iceman from the X-men. Because remember in the original X-Men movies with Hugh Jackman where Iceman made his hands in the machete. That's what it looked like
So, no one cares that Gaia is literally “the” Avenger now? Ah well, the series is over, she’ll be forgotten by next year.
It's Loki.