I know it's like beating a dead horse: Bolt or Iron 883? I had my buddy jump on and take both for a spin. This was his first time on a Harley and a cruiser. Which do you think he chose in the end? I think you'll be surprised!
@@davidhaehnel9550 But its a Yamaha at the end of the day, personally Japanese bikes are nothing special, everyone has one and the feel of riding the bike is NOTHING like the Harley, I have had Japanese bikes, but wont anymore, Triumph or Harley's only for me, I like the way Japanese cruiser riders have to say how much better their bikes are than Harley's or such, but if you like it then great, but they are just copies.
@@HarleyFirestorm I have an 05 kawi vulcan dude. Bought it out right.... How else? Either finance or buy it down. Not to many people would accept a little butt hole action in exchange for legal currency.
The Yamaha Bolt is just a more beautiful design for me and I really like the Iron 883. But the Bolt has that modern retro balance PERFECTLY down. The design of all the pipes, engine, every element really is so modern, and the coloring is great all blacked out, but all in that classic cruiser shape. I'm so glad bikes have ditched the chrome for the most part, the blackout bikes just look so much better. I'd take the Bolt for looks and price. Obviously HD has the name and the Iron 883 is so badass, but I care less about name than I do the design. Also... turning the Bolt into a Low and Mean style Copper Bolt would be an insanely badass DIY job. That thing looks AMAZING.
That's exactly what I said a while back when I did a bolt vs iron side by side comparison. The iron 883 is one of the coolest looking motos imo. We're on the same page there for sure.
What I learned is that riding is more important than looks. Had to decide between Triumph Thrux R and T120B I took the Thrux also T120 feltmuch better. Now I‘ m always thinking of switching. But after a few kilometers (Im from germany) I learned to ride it wirhout numb hands so its much more fun. Also I just saw a Bolt standing aside yesterday and it turned my neck as much as a 883 would. Maybe even more because you take more time to check if its a sporster or not 😂
Well also this isnt the best looking bolt, the best looking bolt is probably black like the 883 is and also doesnt have the weird tail in the back. :/. Because its a weird bolt, Id say the 883 looks better but just in this video
I mean, my thoughts are that you really don't buy a ~50hp motorcycle for performance lol. You buy it for other reasons, all of which that matter to me I think the Sportster takes the cake. Both awesome bikes, though. Won't find that kind of customization options on a Bolt.
Thatd be a good one - the 48 and scout bobber! Might be tough getting both in the garage tho. Lol. I've always got my eyes peeled for good deals so we'll see. Thanks for checking the channel!
I tested both. Bought the Bolt. The bolt rides better, better performance, better cornering, faster and a better sound. The Harley has a cooler name. But the bolt kills the Harley in all other areas. It’s hard for people to get past the name part. Once you do you end up agreeing the better bike is the Yamaha.
I tend to lean towards your thoughts as well. All in all, I'd be down to ride either one. But the bolt takes it for the fun factor imo. Well said, brotha! Ride safe!
I like when people think my Bolt is a Harley. I think any Harley has something untouchable about it. I found huge differences in that untouchable feeling between my Dyna and Bolt.
I have an 883. I have v&h shorts and air cleaner with the chip. It moves plain and simple. Not so much with stock. It rides nice and looks even better. The 883 here is a bare bones version of mine. It cost me a bit to mod it but it was worth it. I'll take the harley every day. There is a reason harley has been around forever. It's an American icon.
Head shake is a deal-breaker for me. Besides, having owned a purchased new 1994, 883, I'm just in live with the Sporster. I bought mine on my because of all those years of drooling over the bike. Yeah, it's slow, but for me, that's a plus as I don't need the tickets. I do love the single crank-pin v-twin motor with all of its vibrating. I figured that that was the cost of admission. Sitting at a red light at the crosswalk, feet on the pavement, and the entire bike shaking and thumping is a very cool experience. You do need some louder pipes, of course. One complaint, though, is those useless mirrors most of the time. Again, the cost of admission for me.
Both fun bikes. The bolt suspension feels better to me. Nothing like playing with motorcycles with your friends. Your video has a fun vibe and brought some brightness to a cold drab day.
Good vid... nice to c another perspective!! I've had many bikes,, gsxr, gold wing, Gpz, v star, etc... got my first Harley , 2018 fat bob.... wow , u said it, can't really explain it but it is its. Own feel and ride, its awesome and my favorite bike I've ever had!!!!!!
Seemed like he was having a lot more fun on the Bolt. He was riding the HD like grampa. I've never been a fan of the HD shaking, but my wife and I rented an 883 once and with a Sundowner seat it felt very comfortable for slower back road riding. I've ridden a 1200 and didn't care for how much it vibrated. Thought it rode nice enough otherwise though. I really like the feel of HDs new Softails. They have a little nice little thrum while riding without feeling like a paint shaker at various rpm.
@@teslaedison6236 Performance excites, charm is when you no longer produce adequate Testosterone. An Adventure Touring bike provides far more excitement than the average cruiser.
Unruly Biker yeah there is a 2017 never been titled new SCR950 for $2999. I’m think of getting one for my first bike. They look really good and if your into the cafe racer style bikes like I am you can’t go wrong especially at $2999
On one hand, you have quality, performance, reliability, handling and a comfortable ride with the Bolt. On the other hand, you have slightly better styling with the Harley.
Both the evo 883 and 1200 are quality, reliable motors, some of the most reliable motors ever made. The sportster handles fine and comfortable is all in the eyes of the owner. A 6 foot 250lb person isn't going to be as comfortable as a 5 foot 10 inch 170lb person. Build quality on the Sportsters is awesome too. I love when people say "reliability issues" and "evolution motor" in the same sentence because everyone knows how reliable the 883 and 1200 are.
With his crotch rocket background I figured he would be more comfortable on the C-Spec. He definitely looked more comfortable when riding it. I would like to see him ride a standard Bolt and compare the two. It seems like 90% of the time when people compare the standard Bolt and and Iron 883 they almost always go with the Bolt for the overall. I personally own a 2014 Bolt and absolutely love it, but I'm also a diehard Harley fan and was raised on and around them and the lifestyle. So for me I'm stuck in the middle and find it hard to pick one over the other, lol.
Visceral! I've heard the word, but admit I had to google it to understand it in this context. Lol. SPOT ON, Brotha! That's exactly what I've been trying to articulate all this time. Hope you don't mind if I steal that in the future. Hahaha! I love your vernacular! Well said!
Honest review/opinion. I've had my Bolt for over 3.5 years and hands down it is the best decision I had ever made. Very reliable as I had only changed the tires once and had 3 oil changes. Everything still performs to this. This is a great bike for someone who does not want to pay the "Harley Tax" on parts and the bike itself. Not knocking Harleys as they are nice bikes but I ride with friends who have both 883s and 1200s Sportsters and their maintenance tab is much higher than mine. The only downside is that the aftermarket parts are a bit harder to find than Sportsters. However, I had still managed to get Vance & Hines exhaust, intake, fuelpak, LED headlights, Hagon performance stocks, Baron mini apes, and a warrior fairing/cowl. Really fun bike to own. It is definitely faster than the 883 but a bit slower than the 1200. However, with the proper aftermarket parts and an ECU flash it will bring it a bit closer. At the end of the day it is a well rounded bike.
The vibration is why the Harley is not a good long distance bike. I have the cruiser bolt and I love her. My first trip, the summer I bought her, was a round trip solo ride from Toronto to Halifax and she did not let me down. It was a really great trip. The only comfort issue was the vintage after market tractor style seat that I thought looked cool, and it totally did, so I sold it and put a mustang seat on...much better:) I rode to South Dakota on my Suzuki with a bunch of Harley dudes and the vibration that they experienced was causing them a lot of issues. In fact they had a chase truck with flatbed trailer so that a bike and rider could take a rest from it. There was a replacement bike on the trailer in case someone’s bike crapped out along way. Excellent organization but a bit of overkill for a bike ride to a bike rally...just my opinion. I will never pay that much money for a culture ride.
Dang! A chase truck for a ride!? Hahaha! I agree - seems a bit like overkill. But I guess it's a good backup. lol. Thanks for sharing! You make some great points about the bolt! I'm a huge fan for sure!
hello i plan on buying a bolt for daily commute and from work which is 20 miles each way. Can yoy recommend anything i should know regarding the bolt to make my ride more comfortable, also i have a Yamaha R6 race bike.
@@ToyMaestro I would say that a comfortable seat is absolutely key AND heated grips. I can’t believe I gave into heated grips after years of calling everyone that had them on their bikes a bunch of ‘you know whats’ lol. If your hands are numb or frozen then you are not completely safe on the road, I figure. They will extend your riding season and you will be more willing to hop on earlier in the day and not be unwilling to ride into late afternoon on cooler spring and autumn days. I did my ride to Halifax and back to Toronto without a wind shield and that was ok but the wind pushed the seam of my jacket into my shoulder joint causing me some discomfort. The wind can cause surprisingly interesting problems as I’m sure you’ve already figured out. Now I have a small adjustable windshield which eliminates wind pressure enough to improve my rides. I hope this was helpful:)
Overall the Bolt is the better buy. That said, I rode one and didn't like how it felt. Not just the seating position and bars but the weight distribution - it felt oddly top-heavy. I had no problem handling it but it was.... awkward.
My bolt had the head shake .need to get tapered head bearings.fixed it instantly.now I can take my hands off no worries any speed.also feels better and less vibration
the yamaha is better looking for me, but thats purely subjective, what is undeniable is that the yamaha drives better in every way, and the finish is superior as well
They're both nice, and the Bolt is quicker, but he could get the 1200 or even 1250 conversion kit for the Sporty, for less than a thousand bucks, as well as do other performance modifications to surpass the bolt, maybe even as an 883.
I've owned a Shadow 750 Aero, a CB919, and ST1300 and a GL1800 Goldwing. Every single one has head shake when I released the bars. No problems with any of them, but they all did it. I think it could be the rake angle.
Dude it look like you had that thing up on one wheel when you took off and kept it up while you were shifting gears, then let it down around 6:01 or 6:02 in the video It might've just been the angle of the camera or the shocks, making it look like it was up off the ground but it looked like it came down hard at 6:01 in the video..
I feel that the rumble you get from a Harley connects the rider to the bike, like a bond between man and machine. I have always ridden naked street bikes but when I rode a Harley for the first time I felt bonded with it. I will never go back to any other bike willingly! Sounds weird but that's my feelings.
I don't think either bike is bad, but the standard Bolt is more of a comparison to the Harley. I will say that I don't like the digital speedometer on the Bolt. Don't like them on any bike. I have an FZ-07 and that is my biggest gripe with it. Great video though.
I e modded a bolt with my brother, nice, quick and clean looking, 883 are hella nice don’t get me wrong but the bolt just felt more comfortable when you get on the throttle, and they’re just super nice for a “starter” 883 from Yamaha if you will, both bikes are super clean! Keep up the good work
Hahaha! Thanks, man! Another viewer used the word "visceral". I'll admit I had to look it up for the context, but it's exactly what you describe! Well said! Per google: When something's visceral, you feel it in your guts. A visceral feeling is intuitive - there might not be a rational explanation, but you feel that you know what's best
Great video. My wife has the Bolt and she wouldn't swap it for anything even offered to buy a Indian scout bobber but she said no way am I getting rid of my Bolt she has the Cobra straights on it and it sounds amazing for me they suit the shorter rider. The only two things she would like to see on a Bolt is a fuel guage and a smaller air filter the stock one is bulky. I on the other hand have the M109r which is a great bike and I really enjoy riding however Harley has character and soul something that Japanese bikes are lacking saying that though a soulless bike that runs forever is better than a bike with soul sitting in my garage in bits just my opinion.
Hahahah! Well said! I actually have an m109r sitting in the garage at the moment! Those are monster bikes! Someone mentioned that all bikes have soul, just their own style. I like that perspective for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
I did the same thing about 4 weeks ago. I rode the regular bolt and the 883. The 2018 883 that I rode has that heritage look, while the bolt had the same character but newer vibe to it. Both were blacked out. The 883 as you described is hard to pin point the description, it feels like a motorcycle and I loved it. The bolt I rode was smoother and more comfortable to ride to me. When it came down to it, I choose the bolt bc of the price, reliability, research, and what it offered. I spent $8200 on the bolt that came with a lot more accessories, instead of paying $1100 stocked on the 883. Both great bikes and I am happy with my choice. Stay safe and ride hard 🤙
Heck yeah! Congrats on the new rideA no doubt you'll have plenty of good times to come! And thanks for watching and commenting! I love hearing what other people's experiences have been. I learn a lot about different bikes from the viewers! Roll safe!
I ride a '99 Bandit 1200. I know it's apples to oranges. I test rode an HD 883 this weekend at the dealer. They were very nice and accommodating. The Sportster reminded me of my first ride. A Rupp Mini Bike.
In your opinion, would a bolt be a good commuter for a heavy rider switching from a 929RR? I want to get into a more relaxed ride position but commute from San Tan Valley to Mesa. Basically the 24 to the 202 to work and home. My other interest was the iron 1200.
Fun thing is in germany the Bolt, the Iron 883 and the Iron 1200 all cost basically the same with the Bolt list price beeing only a bit cheaper than the two harleys. The Bolt costs 9500 Euro, the Iron 883 is 10600 euro and the Iron 1200 is 11000 Euro. So the Iron 883 doesn't really make much sense over here as for only 400 more you can get the 1200. The Sporster 883 Superlow is actually cheaer than the Iron 883 in Germany, costing 200 Euro less than the Iron.
The fist thing I noticed was the difference in seating position, on the Yahama your buddy looked like he was riding a sport bike where the Iron looked more relaxed of a cruiser.
I too was looking to get back into bike's. My choice was between the Bolt vs. Harley vs. Indian Scout 60. Very happy with my purchase of the Scout. Goes better than the 883 but not as good as the Yam. Absotutely looks way better than the other two hands down. Worst part is having to spend a lot of time talking to complete strangers about my bike. Love my 60, love love love.
Much as been made of the declining sales of H-D but Harley has been here before. In the early 1950s Harley was losing sales to cheap British imports that were fast and light. Harley did two things. They first petitioned to government for tariff protection. That effort failed. The second thing they did was to release the K Model. This was for forerunner of the Sportster. It was a 45 cubic inch, unit construction, flat head engine with suspension on both front and rear. It wasn't fast but it was fast enough to compete with the British offering.
I would love to, but it's unlikely I'll end up with those two in the garage at the same time. These are bikes I've actually purchased and happen to own at a given moment (I buy/sell as a side hobby).
My experience riding HDs gave me that same feeling. I call it "archaic". They all have it, no matter what crazy handlebar or peg setup they have. The Yamaha seating position looks like it might be better at high speeds but I doubt it goes very fast! Not my type of bikes but I don't mind riding with others on bikes like that. Better than no bike by far!!
Yamaha Bolt on reliability. Thing rides solid over the iron. Bought mine in 2016 have put 40k miles easley with all maintenance done myself. Ride it everyday in this California weather. HOT SUMMER!!!
@@ToyMaestro my experience ( 5'10, 230 lbs) with everything stock it can get uncomfortable after 40 min in the freeway. Stock seat not so comfortable. Fuel tank is small, so refueling is often.
iam a Yamaha fan I have had 2 xv 1100 over the last 30 yrs with a 1600 road star in the middle the 1100 is far nicer to ride but now I find the 1100 is too heavy for me to pick up, I might go and check out the bolt after watching your vid, good to see a vid where Yamaha is seen as good as they are thank you
Love this video. The 883 has always been at the top of my list one day I will ride one and probably buy one. But I think a super Moto might be first on the list before a cruiser.
I was watching another video test where the 883 was much faster that the Bolt. They explained that there was more torque and horsepower on the HD than the Yamaha. Wonder why that wasn't the case on this run?
I wouldn't take this as a fair head to head. We were just messing around and yuwon hadn't ridden in quite some time. However, I've always felt like the bolt was a bit faster. But I could totally be wrong. Both fun bikes either way. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Its really a Ford Chevy thing they are both great choices I told my son to choose the bolt for his 1st bike, because its cheaper but Harley has a btr warranty, and a btr dealer network...
I feel that for tall people the bolt will cause a probable hit to your knee on the airbox cover, the 883/1200 kinda feel a little better because I feel that the cover is a little higher and pushed in more
Great vid Jon - as always! Bit of an idea for you. Not a new idea by any means but why not set up a subscribers’ run? Not like meeting at your house or anything weird. Just a point A to B cruise, maybe look over some subscriber bikes and do some little rider impressions/interviews. Would be cool I reckon - not that I could join in as I’m in Australia 🇦🇺👍
Heck yeah! I'm definitely down with the idea of doing something like that. Honestly I just haven't taken the time to sit down and go over the logistics. And frankly, I'm not confident I'd have a good turn out, but I could be underestimating the local viewer base? My only thing is I wouldn't want to do something that turns into one of those crazy group rides through the city where streets are getting shut down and people are running into each other doing wheelies. Lol. A thought I had was to get some subs together and do a ride where we drop toys off for the foster kids, or something along those lines. Turn it into a positive for the community as a whole. (While still doing a wheelie or two of course! Hahahaha).
Jon's Moto Garage true - I hadn’t really thought through the potential for it to get totally out of hand. 😂 Something chill for the community with the odd wheelie sounds right! I think a smaller turnout would actually be a bit more interesting but as you said - hard to know what kind of turn out you would get. Maybe you could use like an event app to set it up (in Australia people use one called eventbrite all the time). That way you could withhold some of the details until folks register online to attend and you would also then at least get an indication of numbers. You put so much time and effort into your channel that it’s probably one of those ideas for latter on, like when you don’t have 10 or so vlogs worth of content queuing up (like you were saying in a vid the other day). Anyway - keep killing it Jon. You’re a legend and deserve everything good that may grow from your channel ✌️👊
Thanks for the info! I'll have to look into the event apps. I may have a few dudes rolling through this weekend for a ride (the guy who bought the raider and the dude who bought the sportster 72). If so, we'll get a vid going for sure. It'd be cool to get us all on the gopro and bluetooth...but that would be an editing NIGHTMARE! hahahaha!
I'm getting a bike soon and I cant decide between an 883 or a scout sixty. I found a 2020 883 and scout sixty for 10k (Canadian dollars). It seems like people are saying the Scout is the better bike but I am just in love with the look of the 883 and its driving me insane. Incant make up my mind
My second bike was a bolt and I've ridden both 883 and a 1250 sportster and feel the Bolt has more to offer. I used to live out in the mountains and the Bolt absolutely shreds. I do agree that there is more limited aftermarket support for the Bolt. I'm on an FXDX these days and I'd still buy a Bolt and build it out to be a bad ass Canyon carver. A little extra tid bit of info is that the Bolt has ceramic lined cylinder walls, which is why there hasn't been a kit to increase the displacement of the Bolts 950.
Nice! I didnt know that regarding the ceramic lined cylinders. Make sense now that you mention it. I've never heard of anyone doing kits on them - I guess that's why. Lol. Thanks for the info! I also feel like there's something extra with the bolt that the iron 883 doesn't offer in terms of the ride/performance.
Jon's Moto Garage no sweat. I'm a geek for Moto stuff, and I've really been wanting to see a "shootout" between these two bikes. Keep up the good stuff, and keep the rubber down!
I’ve owned a harley and a metric. Yes there’s a unique feeling riding a harley, the sound, the feel, the smell. Metrics on the other hand are smoother and more sophisticated, well made, in the back of my mind I know that it’ll last long. Harleys are easier to work on and after market parts are readily available. But it can also be the same with metrics. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter which one you choose as long as you ride. I will never sell my yamaha raider :) best bike I ever owned.
You hit the nail on the head! We're just lucky to ride! In Argentina, the majority scoot around on mopeds - most can't afford anything else. I can only imagine them looking at us and thinking "what spoiled babies!" Lol. We have so many options!
Jon's Moto Garage I agree, some people’s dream bike is a honda shadow phantom and there’s nothing wrong with that. Some people can only dream of riding a motorcycle and I know a few. Yes, we’re lucky we can ride and choose what we can ride. Ride safe brother.
10:00 i had a 2004 CBR600 back in 2008 and i had it also for 2 years until i sold it to my cousin then i bought a brand new honda shadow 750 sadly i didn't use it as much as I would like before selling it, right now i am looking at either Yamaha bolt or Indian scout
I haven't seen a cruiser(like bolt, 833, vulcan s, indian scout etc) in real life. There are also no shops in my area. Today I think I saw a yamha xv950( took a picture and searched it on google). This is a big bike. Are the cruisers I mentioned above also this big?
I'd say these fall into the middleweight cruiser category. They're bigger than the honda rebel and comparable beginner bikes but not quite at the road king or goldwing status.
was having alot of trouble decided between these two bikes but after riding both i went with the bolt with no hesitation.... BUT A harley isa harley isa harley haha
Asked a really good mechanic, between Sportster and Bolt, told him I didn't want issues - told me to stay the hell away from the Harley. Called it rustic, with zero technology. Told me you could throw the Yamaha off a second story building and it would still run. Considering base price differences, reliability, and customisation options, seems pretty clear that the Bolt should blow the Harley away if you're really looking for a mean bike on a budget. Like the guy said, they copied the Sportster platform,they just do mechanics better.
@@JonsMotoGarage i have a 2018 R-Spec right now....I'm still not sure if I regret it or not...the lack of aftermarket is what's killing me right now, and seating/peg position, stock seat, how large the aircleaner is, etc lol. I just laid mine over the other day 'cause someome cut me off....i wish they would've totaled it out tbh.....if given the chance would you take the BMW K1600 or the Goldwing? Trying to pick my next bike haha
Dang, sorry to hear about the accident. That is a great thing about harleys - aftermarket parts galore! (if you can afford it. lol). Regarding the bmw or goldwing, I've never ridden the bmw so can't speak to it. But I've heard great things about em both. I should have a goldwing f6b impressions vid coming soon for additional perspective. If possible, try to get your hands on both and take em for a joy ride! Easier said than done! Lol. Thanks for the support, bro! Ride safe!
The bolt is a 2015 c-spec. The exhaust is a gp slip on (came on the bike when I bought it used). The scout bobber felt more refined, smoother, faster, etc. But it comes with a much higher price tag. Both are wicked fun bikes imo. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
I know it's like beating a dead horse: Bolt or Iron 883? I had my buddy jump on and take both for a spin. This was his first time on a Harley and a cruiser. Which do you think he chose in the end? I think you'll be surprised!
I think he looks better on the bolt and will appreciate it since it feels way sportier than the harley.
@@davidhaehnel9550 But its a Yamaha at the end of the day, personally Japanese bikes are nothing special, everyone has one and the feel of riding the bike is NOTHING like the Harley, I have had Japanese bikes, but wont anymore, Triumph or Harley's only for me, I like the way Japanese cruiser riders have to say how much better their bikes are than Harley's or such, but if you like it then great, but they are just copies.
@@HarleyFirestorm at the end of the day, there's no reason for ME to finance a motorcycle. If you have the funds, then more power to ya.
@@davidhaehnel9550 how did you buy the Yamaha?.
@@HarleyFirestorm I have an 05 kawi vulcan dude. Bought it out right.... How else? Either finance or buy it down. Not to many people would accept a little butt hole action in exchange for legal currency.
The only thing I dislike about the bolt is the speedo, it’s round with square lcd it seems very cheap
The whole bike is cheap
That the sole reason I'm not buying bolt
And hard to read in certain angles of sun light . I love the bike but hate the speed o
I bought an aftermarket gauge for mine with a tach. Soooo much better. New bike now
Michael Mckenzie Same here!
My brother and I are now in our early 60’s and riding again , we are on maxi scooters and we are loving it
The Yamaha Bolt is just a more beautiful design for me and I really like the Iron 883. But the Bolt has that modern retro balance PERFECTLY down. The design of all the pipes, engine, every element really is so modern, and the coloring is great all blacked out, but all in that classic cruiser shape. I'm so glad bikes have ditched the chrome for the most part, the blackout bikes just look so much better. I'd take the Bolt for looks and price. Obviously HD has the name and the Iron 883 is so badass, but I care less about name than I do the design. Also... turning the Bolt into a Low and Mean style Copper Bolt would be an insanely badass DIY job. That thing looks AMAZING.
Well said, brotha! Both have their strong suits for sure! Thanks for sharing and commenting!
Bolt performs better, but Iron looks better......
That's exactly what I said a while back when I did a bolt vs iron side by side comparison. The iron 883 is one of the coolest looking motos imo. We're on the same page there for sure.
@@JonsMotoGarage exactly..its always boils down to that
What I learned is that riding is more important than looks. Had to decide between Triumph Thrux R and T120B I took the Thrux also T120 feltmuch better. Now I‘ m always thinking of switching. But after a few kilometers (Im from germany) I learned to ride it wirhout numb hands so its much more fun.
Also I just saw a Bolt standing aside yesterday and it turned my neck as much as a 883 would. Maybe even more because you take more time to check if its a sporster or not 😂
Well also this isnt the best looking bolt, the best looking bolt is probably black like the 883 is and also doesnt have the weird tail in the back. :/. Because its a weird bolt, Id say the 883 looks better but just in this video
I mean, my thoughts are that you really don't buy a ~50hp motorcycle for performance lol. You buy it for other reasons, all of which that matter to me I think the Sportster takes the cake. Both awesome bikes, though. Won't find that kind of customization options on a Bolt.
Damn, I didn't realize that those bolts can sound so good. That thing sounds awesome.
Not half bad, right? And it's just a jp slip on exhaust. Costs like $60 if I'm not mistaken. Lol.
Kind of shocked with the performance and sound of that Yamaha!
Right!? Pretty solid bike for the money (at least if buying used).
Definitely a HD guy but personally I dig the Bolt C much more than a 883 sporty. Would like to see a comparison of a Scout Bobber and Sportster 48.
Thatd be a good one - the 48 and scout bobber! Might be tough getting both in the garage tho. Lol. I've always got my eyes peeled for good deals so we'll see. Thanks for checking the channel!
I tested both. Bought the Bolt. The bolt rides better, better performance, better cornering, faster and a better sound. The Harley has a cooler name. But the bolt kills the Harley in all other areas. It’s hard for people to get past the name part. Once you do you end up agreeing the better bike is the Yamaha.
I tend to lean towards your thoughts as well. All in all, I'd be down to ride either one. But the bolt takes it for the fun factor imo. Well said, brotha! Ride safe!
I like when people think my Bolt is a Harley. I think any Harley has something untouchable about it. I found huge differences in that untouchable feeling between my Dyna and Bolt.
Hahahaha...yeah, the bolt is a sweet bike and a head turner imo.
I have an 883. I have v&h shorts and air cleaner with the chip. It moves plain and simple. Not so much with stock. It rides nice and looks even better. The 883 here is a bare bones version of mine. It cost me a bit to mod it but it was worth it. I'll take the harley every day. There is a reason harley has been around forever. It's an American icon.
Harley all day long and twice on Sunday. There is just a spirited nostalgia that comes with riding one IMHO
Hahaha... I love the "twice on sunday." Let me try: Harley all day long and twice monday - friday! Lol. I like the sound of that!
@@JonsMotoGarage yes sir! I can dig that. Stay cool man
Head shake is a deal-breaker for me. Besides, having owned a purchased new 1994, 883, I'm just in live with the Sporster. I bought mine on my because of all those years of drooling over the bike. Yeah, it's slow, but for me, that's a plus as I don't need the tickets. I do love the single crank-pin v-twin motor with all of its vibrating. I figured that that was the cost of admission. Sitting at a red light at the crosswalk, feet on the pavement, and the entire bike shaking and thumping is a very cool experience. You do need some louder pipes, of course.
One complaint, though, is those useless mirrors most of the time. Again, the cost of admission for me.
Both fun bikes. The bolt suspension feels better to me. Nothing like playing with motorcycles with your friends. Your video has a fun vibe and brought some brightness to a cold drab day.
lol @ 7.20: "Any bike i'm not on is a good looking motorcycle". That perfectly defines every biker's thoughts.
I have a Fat Bob and a Bolt, love both of them.
Heck yeah! That's a nice collection right there!
Good vid... nice to c another perspective!! I've had many bikes,, gsxr, gold wing, Gpz, v star, etc... got my first Harley , 2018 fat bob.... wow , u said it, can't really explain it but it is its. Own feel and ride, its awesome and my favorite bike I've ever had!!!!!!
Hecks yeah! Hard to articulate, but it's something special.
Seemed like he was having a lot more fun on the Bolt. He was riding the HD like grampa.
I've never been a fan of the HD shaking, but my wife and I rented an 883 once and with a Sundowner seat it felt very comfortable for slower back road riding. I've ridden a 1200 and didn't care for how much it vibrated. Thought it rode nice enough otherwise though.
I really like the feel of HDs new Softails. They have a little nice little thrum while riding without feeling like a paint shaker at various rpm.
I think by the time he got on the bolt he was a bit more warmed up. But yeah, I thought the same. Lol.
Good video. I think I'd go for the 883. You can always get it converted to a 1200 if you find it a bit tame later on. It looks better, too.
True!!
I was surprised, I figured he would like the bolt
Yeah, he seemed to be having more fun on it. Lol. Although, by then he was a bit more warmed up as well.
That Bolt sounds sick! Best sounding metric I’ve heard...
Right? Not bad for a cheap slip-on exhaust. Hahaha!
Why would Yamaha put such an ugly speedo on the bolt when they've got the amazing one from the xsr
It took em some time to figure it out. Lol. The 2014 yrs you can't even see the numbers under sunlight.
@@JonsMotoGarage it's still a problem by the 2018 model
Do you all need the speedo?
And are still putting them on .
Harleys are always more charming, you can‘t beat them in this field.
12 bikes and I have yet to buy one because of charm. For me I buy for fun and for me performance equals fun so performance it is. :)
@@2wrdr If you want performance to charm you you probably should go with a rocket not a cruiser
@@teslaedison6236 Performance excites, charm is when you no longer produce adequate Testosterone. An Adventure Touring bike provides far more excitement than the average cruiser.
Yamaha Bolt any day.
Heck yeah! The bolt is a fun bike for sure!
I'd take the Harley, but that is a sweet looking Bolt... had no idea they made a cafe model.
Yeah, the cafe model is pretty slick!
Unruly Biker yeah there is a 2017 never been titled new SCR950 for $2999. I’m think of getting one for my first bike. They look really good and if your into the cafe racer style bikes like I am you can’t go wrong especially at $2999
On one hand, you have quality, performance, reliability, handling and a comfortable ride with the Bolt. On the other hand, you have slightly better styling with the Harley.
Well said, brotha!
Sportys are reliable bikes. Harley would do well to implement the sporty tranny and primary drive to the big bikes.
I’m not a huge sportster fan but the Iron is bullet proof so I’d say it’s pretty reliable also.
Both the evo 883 and 1200 are quality, reliable motors, some of the most reliable motors ever made. The sportster handles fine and comfortable is all in the eyes of the owner. A 6 foot 250lb person isn't going to be as comfortable as a 5 foot 10 inch 170lb person. Build quality on the Sportsters is awesome too. I love when people say "reliability issues" and "evolution motor" in the same sentence because everyone knows how reliable the 883 and 1200 are.
I love how the Sportester looks.
Good review. Light hearted and not judgmental.
Thanks, brotha!
With his crotch rocket background I figured he would be more comfortable on the C-Spec. He definitely looked more comfortable when riding it. I would like to see him ride a standard Bolt and compare the two. It seems like 90% of the time when people compare the standard Bolt and and Iron 883 they almost always go with the Bolt for the overall. I personally own a 2014 Bolt and absolutely love it, but I'm also a diehard Harley fan and was raised on and around them and the lifestyle. So for me I'm stuck in the middle and find it hard to pick one over the other, lol.
Harleys are just more visceral feeling to me...
Visceral! I've heard the word, but admit I had to google it to understand it in this context. Lol. SPOT ON, Brotha! That's exactly what I've been trying to articulate all this time. Hope you don't mind if I steal that in the future. Hahaha! I love your vernacular! Well said!
Honest review/opinion. I've had my Bolt for over 3.5 years and hands down it is the best decision I had ever made. Very reliable as I had only changed the tires once and had 3 oil changes. Everything still performs to this. This is a great bike for someone who does not want to pay the "Harley Tax" on parts and the bike itself. Not knocking Harleys as they are nice bikes but I ride with friends who have both 883s and 1200s Sportsters and their maintenance tab is much higher than mine. The only downside is that the aftermarket parts are a bit harder to find than Sportsters. However, I had still managed to get Vance & Hines exhaust, intake, fuelpak, LED headlights, Hagon performance stocks, Baron mini apes, and a warrior fairing/cowl. Really fun bike to own. It is definitely faster than the 883 but a bit slower than the 1200. However, with the proper aftermarket parts and an ECU flash it will bring it a bit closer. At the end of the day it is a well rounded bike.
The vibration is why the Harley is not a good long distance bike. I have the cruiser bolt and I love her. My first trip, the summer I bought her, was a round trip solo ride from Toronto to Halifax and she did not let me down. It was a really great trip. The only comfort issue was the vintage after market tractor style seat that I thought looked cool, and it totally did, so I sold it and put a mustang seat on...much better:) I rode to South Dakota on my Suzuki with a bunch of Harley dudes and the vibration that they experienced was causing them a lot of issues. In fact they had a chase truck with flatbed trailer so that a bike and rider could take a rest from it. There was a replacement bike on the trailer in case someone’s bike crapped out along way. Excellent organization but a bit of overkill for a bike ride to a bike rally...just my opinion. I will never pay that much money for a culture ride.
Dang! A chase truck for a ride!? Hahaha! I agree - seems a bit like overkill. But I guess it's a good backup. lol. Thanks for sharing! You make some great points about the bolt! I'm a huge fan for sure!
Jesus Toronto to Halifax. I live in Toronto and just driving in a car through Toronto seems like too much. Must have been fun.
hello i plan on buying a bolt for daily commute and from work which is 20 miles each way. Can yoy recommend anything i should know regarding the bolt to make my ride more comfortable, also i have a Yamaha R6 race bike.
@@ToyMaestro I would say that a comfortable seat is absolutely key AND heated grips. I can’t believe I gave into heated grips after years of calling everyone that had them on their bikes a bunch of ‘you know whats’ lol. If your hands are numb or frozen then you are not completely safe on the road, I figure. They will extend your riding season and you will be more willing to hop on earlier in the day and not be unwilling to ride into late afternoon on cooler spring and autumn days. I did my ride to Halifax and back to Toronto without a wind shield and that was ok but the wind pushed the seam of my jacket into my shoulder joint causing me some discomfort. The wind can cause surprisingly interesting problems as I’m sure you’ve already figured out. Now I have a small adjustable windshield which eliminates wind pressure enough to improve my rides. I hope this was helpful:)
@@sassy6292 Yes very helpful thank you so much. Also I never knew they made heated grips lol .
We here at Viking Bags really appreciate your content! Great video! Keep up the good work!
i thought i was set on the Iron 883 but after that Scout Bobber video i found my next bike :D
That scout bobber was a wicked fun bike! If I find a good deal on a used one, I'll pick it up for sure!
Love my scout
Overall the Bolt is the better buy. That said, I rode one and didn't like how it felt. Not just the seating position and bars but the weight distribution - it felt oddly top-heavy. I had no problem handling it but it was.... awkward.
What would you prefer in this class of bike?
My bolt had the head shake .need to get tapered head bearings.fixed it instantly.now I can take my hands off no worries any speed.also feels better and less vibration
Nice! I have the new bearings but they're not installed. I've heard that's the way to go.
Both are beautiful bikes . I think Harley wins because of the feeling and after market options imo . 👌💰
Those are definitely pluses with the harley.
I would prefer an Evo Sportster.
the yamaha is better looking for me, but thats purely subjective, what is undeniable is that the yamaha drives better in every way, and the finish is superior as well
They're both nice, and the Bolt is quicker, but he could get the 1200 or even 1250 conversion kit for the Sporty, for less than a thousand bucks, as well as do other performance modifications to surpass the bolt, maybe even as an 883.
Yeah, the 1200 is definitely gonna beat out the bolt. But like you said, both great bikes!
I've owned a Shadow 750 Aero, a CB919, and ST1300 and a GL1800 Goldwing. Every single one has head shake when I released the bars. No problems with any of them, but they all did it. I think it could be the rake angle.
Interesting. I've had it with other bikes as well. Didnt realize it was so common.
@@JonsMotoGarage It was worse on all 4 with increased tire wear.
Dude it look like you had that thing up on one wheel when you took off and kept it up while you were shifting gears, then let it down around 6:01 or 6:02 in the video It might've just been the angle of the camera or the shocks, making it look like it was up off the ground but it looked like it came down hard at 6:01 in the video..
I feel that the rumble you get from a Harley connects the rider to the bike, like a bond between man and machine.
I have always ridden naked street bikes but when I rode a Harley for the first time I felt bonded with it. I will never go back to any other bike willingly!
Sounds weird but that's my feelings.
I don't think either bike is bad, but the standard Bolt is more of a comparison to the Harley. I will say that I don't like the digital speedometer on the Bolt. Don't like them on any bike. I have an FZ-07 and that is my biggest gripe with it. Great video though.
I hear ya for sure. The worst is on the 2014 bolt where you can't see the speedo under normal sunlight. Lol. Huge design flaw.
I e modded a bolt with my brother, nice, quick and clean looking, 883 are hella nice don’t get me wrong but the bolt just felt more comfortable when you get on the throttle, and they’re just super nice for a “starter” 883 from Yamaha if you will, both bikes are super clean! Keep up the good work
The handlebars will make a big difference. I would change the ones on the Bolt to higher ones to compare the 2.
Sup Jon!
Channel coming along 👍🏼. Love the content. BTW, the feeling you get from the H-D that you can’t describe, it’s called.. “SOUL” 😉😎.
Hahaha! Thanks, man! Another viewer used the word "visceral". I'll admit I had to look it up for the context, but it's exactly what you describe! Well said! Per google: When something's visceral, you feel it in your guts. A visceral feeling is intuitive - there might not be a rational explanation, but you feel that you know what's best
I just bought a 883 off my buddy and it gets alot of head turns it rides great too I'm in love
Heck yeah! Super fun bikes! Ride safe!
Great video. My wife has the Bolt and she wouldn't swap it for anything even offered to buy a Indian scout bobber but she said no way am I getting rid of my Bolt she has the Cobra straights on it and it sounds amazing for me they suit the shorter rider. The only two things she would like to see on a Bolt is a fuel guage and a smaller air filter the stock one is bulky. I on the other hand have the M109r which is a great bike and I really enjoy riding however Harley has character and soul something that Japanese bikes are lacking saying that though a soulless bike that runs forever is better than a bike with soul sitting in my garage in bits just my opinion.
Hahahah! Well said! I actually have an m109r sitting in the garage at the moment! Those are monster bikes! Someone mentioned that all bikes have soul, just their own style. I like that perspective for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
Favorite channel on UA-cam. I have a feeling you are going to be big someday soon
Thanks, bro! That means a lot! I'm proud to share the same spelling of "Jon." Hahaha!
I did the same thing about 4 weeks ago. I rode the regular bolt and the 883. The 2018 883 that I rode has that heritage look, while the bolt had the same character but newer vibe to it. Both were blacked out.
The 883 as you described is hard to pin point the description, it feels like a motorcycle and I loved it. The bolt I rode was smoother and more comfortable to ride to me.
When it came down to it, I choose the bolt bc of the price, reliability, research, and what it offered.
I spent $8200 on the bolt that came with a lot more accessories, instead of paying $1100 stocked on the 883. Both great bikes and I am happy with my choice. Stay safe and ride hard 🤙
Heck yeah! Congrats on the new rideA no doubt you'll have plenty of good times to come! And thanks for watching and commenting! I love hearing what other people's experiences have been. I learn a lot about different bikes from the viewers! Roll safe!
I ride a '99 Bandit 1200. I know it's apples to oranges. I test rode an HD 883 this weekend at the dealer. They were very nice and accommodating. The Sportster reminded me of my first ride. A Rupp Mini Bike.
Hahaha...i hear ya! The sporty is a but rough around the edges for sure. Lol.
In your opinion, would a bolt be a good commuter for a heavy rider switching from a 929RR? I want to get into a more relaxed ride position but commute from San Tan Valley to Mesa. Basically the 24 to the 202 to work and home. My other interest was the iron 1200.
Fun thing is in germany the Bolt, the Iron 883 and the Iron 1200 all cost basically the same with the Bolt list price beeing only a bit cheaper than the two harleys. The Bolt costs 9500 Euro, the Iron 883 is 10600 euro and the Iron 1200 is 11000 Euro. So the Iron 883 doesn't really make much sense over here as for only 400 more you can get the 1200. The Sporster 883 Superlow is actually cheaer than the Iron 883 in Germany, costing 200 Euro less than the Iron.
Dang, that's crazy!
The fist thing I noticed was the difference in seating position, on the Yahama your buddy looked like he was riding a sport bike where the Iron looked more relaxed of a cruiser.
Like the analogue display on the sportster but prefer the performance of the bolt....
That settles it.
Triumph Bonneville for the win. LOL
I too was looking to get back into bike's. My choice was between the Bolt vs. Harley vs. Indian Scout 60. Very happy with my purchase of the Scout. Goes better than the 883 but not as good as the Yam. Absotutely looks way better than the other two hands down. Worst part is having to spend a lot of time talking to complete strangers about my bike. Love my 60, love love love.
Heck yeah! All great bikes for sure! Hahaha...I love the worst part about the bike that you mention. That's hilarious!
You're not one for attention are you.
Much as been made of the declining sales of H-D but Harley has been here before. In the early 1950s Harley was losing sales to cheap British imports that were fast and light. Harley did two things. They first petitioned to government for tariff protection. That effort failed. The second thing they did was to release the K Model. This was for forerunner of the Sportster. It was a 45 cubic inch, unit construction, flat head engine with suspension on both front and rear. It wasn't fast but it was fast enough to compete with the British offering.
Thanks for the info! I love hearing about some of the history. It'll be interesting to see what lays in store.
Wow he chose the 883!
Can you do Sportster ROADSTER vs NIGHTSTER???? Both being HD 1200.
I would love to, but it's unlikely I'll end up with those two in the garage at the same time. These are bikes I've actually purchased and happen to own at a given moment (I buy/sell as a side hobby).
My experience riding HDs gave me that same feeling. I call it "archaic". They all have it, no matter what crazy handlebar or peg setup they have. The Yamaha seating position looks like it might be better at high speeds but I doubt it goes very fast! Not my type of bikes but I don't mind riding with others on bikes like that. Better than no bike by far!!
Hahaha...exactly! I'll take any bike over no bike. Lol.
“One of his bikes went down once or twice... so he know what he’s doing”
🤔🤔🤔
Hahaha...I actually laughed about that myself. Makes TOTAL sense! lol. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
Only 2 kinds of riders, one's that have crashed and ones that will......
That bolt rips arse! Both are nice, all depends what your preference is.
Yamaha Bolt on reliability. Thing rides solid over the iron. Bought mine in 2016 have put 40k miles easley with all maintenance done myself. Ride it everyday in this California weather. HOT SUMMER!!!
Nice!
I livr in california also how is the ride on california freeways ? im debating which one to buy for regular commute to work. thanksnin advance
@@ToyMaestro my experience ( 5'10, 230 lbs) with everything stock it can get uncomfortable after 40 min in the freeway. Stock seat not so comfortable. Fuel tank is small, so refueling is often.
iam a Yamaha fan I have had 2 xv 1100 over the last 30 yrs with a 1600 road star in the middle the 1100 is far nicer to ride but now I find the 1100 is too heavy for me to pick up, I might go and check out the bolt after watching your vid, good to see a vid where Yamaha is seen as good as they are thank you
Heck yeah! Yamaha offers so much bike for the money, especially in the used market. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
Love this video. The 883 has always been at the top of my list one day I will ride one and probably buy one. But I think a super Moto might be first on the list before a cruiser.
Heck yeah! The supermoto I'd awesome for the wheelie stuff and just having a blast!
Man I want both 😞 great video as always. Looking for my first full size bike. My first bike is a z125
883 is my favorite HD because its the 'truest' most oldschool one....but when push come to shove i would go with the bolt
I hear ya! I also really dig the old school roots of the sporty!
I was watching another video test where the 883 was much faster that the Bolt. They explained that there was more torque and horsepower on the HD than the Yamaha. Wonder why that wasn't the case on this run?
I wouldn't take this as a fair head to head. We were just messing around and yuwon hadn't ridden in quite some time. However, I've always felt like the bolt was a bit faster. But I could totally be wrong. Both fun bikes either way. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Ur buddy looks way more in his element on that C spec.
That's what I was thinking!
I'm on my 1st hd and really enjoy riding it. I started out riding sport bikes...
Great video! We here at Viking Bags really appreciate your content, keep it up!
883 has a larger aftermarket if you want to start customizing.....
Good point for sure!
Its really a Ford Chevy thing they are both great choices I told my son to choose the bolt for his 1st bike, because its cheaper but Harley has a btr warranty, and a btr dealer network...
It was very difficult the speedometer relocation? Very nice video, congratulations ... Greetings from Argentina.
I feel that for tall people the bolt will cause a probable hit to your knee on the airbox cover, the 883/1200 kinda feel a little better because I feel that the cover is a little higher and pushed in more
I could see that. The airbox cover even gets in the way a bit for me.
That bolt sounds so good
The exhaust is pretty nice, ha?
Great vid Jon - as always! Bit of an idea for you. Not a new idea by any means but why not set up a subscribers’ run? Not like meeting at your house or anything weird. Just a point A to B cruise, maybe look over some subscriber bikes and do some little rider impressions/interviews. Would be cool I reckon - not that I could join in as I’m in Australia 🇦🇺👍
Heck yeah! I'm definitely down with the idea of doing something like that. Honestly I just haven't taken the time to sit down and go over the logistics. And frankly, I'm not confident I'd have a good turn out, but I could be underestimating the local viewer base? My only thing is I wouldn't want to do something that turns into one of those crazy group rides through the city where streets are getting shut down and people are running into each other doing wheelies. Lol. A thought I had was to get some subs together and do a ride where we drop toys off for the foster kids, or something along those lines. Turn it into a positive for the community as a whole. (While still doing a wheelie or two of course! Hahahaha).
Jon's Moto Garage true - I hadn’t really thought through the potential for it to get totally out of hand. 😂 Something chill for the community with the odd wheelie sounds right! I think a smaller turnout would actually be a bit more interesting but as you said - hard to know what kind of turn out you would get. Maybe you could use like an event app to set it up (in Australia people use one called eventbrite all the time). That way you could withhold some of the details until folks register online to attend and you would also then at least get an indication of numbers. You put so much time and effort into your channel that it’s probably one of those ideas for latter on, like when you don’t have 10 or so vlogs worth of content queuing up (like you were saying in a vid the other day). Anyway - keep killing it Jon. You’re a legend and deserve everything good that may grow from your channel ✌️👊
Thanks for the info! I'll have to look into the event apps. I may have a few dudes rolling through this weekend for a ride (the guy who bought the raider and the dude who bought the sportster 72). If so, we'll get a vid going for sure. It'd be cool to get us all on the gopro and bluetooth...but that would be an editing NIGHTMARE! hahahaha!
You guys had to much fun doing this
Question between the 883 and the bolt wich motorcycle would have a more loud pipe sound?
So the Yamaha is a cruiser but a cafe racer and a modern classic with a digital display?
I'm getting a bike soon and I cant decide between an 883 or a scout sixty. I found a 2020 883 and scout sixty for 10k (Canadian dollars). It seems like people are saying the Scout is the better bike but I am just in love with the look of the 883 and its driving me insane. Incant make up my mind
I love Harley Davidson but DAMN! That bolt is pretty 😍
Hahaha....yeah, the bolt is pretty nice!
Both are great bikes in their own ways.
Well said! Awesome profile pic btw!
My second bike was a bolt and I've ridden both 883 and a 1250 sportster and feel the Bolt has more to offer. I used to live out in the mountains and the Bolt absolutely shreds. I do agree that there is more limited aftermarket support for the Bolt. I'm on an FXDX these days and I'd still buy a Bolt and build it out to be a bad ass Canyon carver. A little extra tid bit of info is that the Bolt has ceramic lined cylinder walls, which is why there hasn't been a kit to increase the displacement of the Bolts 950.
Nice! I didnt know that regarding the ceramic lined cylinders. Make sense now that you mention it. I've never heard of anyone doing kits on them - I guess that's why. Lol. Thanks for the info! I also feel like there's something extra with the bolt that the iron 883 doesn't offer in terms of the ride/performance.
I like the look of the 883 better
Yeah, it's hard to beat that styling! Thanks for watching and commenting!
When you're dragging, pin the throttle, and flick it and kick it... You'll get after it way faster, boss.
I'll give that a shot! Thanks for watching and commenting! !
Jon's Moto Garage no sweat. I'm a geek for Moto stuff, and I've really been wanting to see a "shootout" between these two bikes. Keep up the good stuff, and keep the rubber down!
Damn were do u guys live the streets were empty asf.
I’ve owned a harley and a metric. Yes there’s a unique feeling riding a harley, the sound, the feel, the smell. Metrics on the other hand are smoother and more sophisticated, well made, in the back of my mind I know that it’ll last long. Harleys are easier to work on and after market parts are readily available. But it can also be the same with metrics. At the end of the day, it doesn’t really matter which one you choose as long as you ride. I will never sell my yamaha raider :) best bike I ever owned.
You hit the nail on the head! We're just lucky to ride! In Argentina, the majority scoot around on mopeds - most can't afford anything else. I can only imagine them looking at us and thinking "what spoiled babies!" Lol. We have so many options!
Jon's Moto Garage I agree, some people’s dream bike is a honda shadow phantom and there’s nothing wrong with that. Some people can only dream of riding a motorcycle and I know a few. Yes, we’re lucky we can ride and choose what we can ride. Ride safe brother.
Hecks yeah!
10:00 i had a 2004 CBR600 back in 2008 and i had it also for 2 years until i sold it to my cousin then i bought a brand new honda shadow 750 sadly i didn't use it as much as I would like before selling it, right now i am looking at either Yamaha bolt or Indian scout
I haven't seen a cruiser(like bolt, 833, vulcan s, indian scout etc) in real life. There are also no shops in my area. Today I think I saw a yamha xv950( took a picture and searched it on google). This is a big bike. Are the cruisers I mentioned above also this big?
I'd say these fall into the middleweight cruiser category. They're bigger than the honda rebel and comparable beginner bikes but not quite at the road king or goldwing status.
have they fixed the death wobbles on the bolt?
Clash of the titans they are both excellent choices
The sound of the Yamaha.... 🔥 ❤️
They are honestly both excellent choices...
My thoughts exactly!
Another good video. Keep em coming!!!
Thanks, Brett! These rides are always such a blast!
I just picked up a 2015 bolt cspec straight piped baby
was having alot of trouble decided between these two bikes but after riding both i went with the bolt with no hesitation.... BUT A harley isa harley isa harley haha
Asked a really good mechanic, between Sportster and Bolt, told him I didn't want issues - told me to stay the hell away from the Harley. Called it rustic, with zero technology. Told me you could throw the Yamaha off a second story building and it would still run. Considering base price differences, reliability, and customisation options, seems pretty clear that the Bolt should blow the Harley away if you're really looking for a mean bike on a budget. Like the guy said, they copied the Sportster platform,they just do mechanics better.
Very difficult to compare a sportbike to the 883....now the R spec - to the 883 thats a fair comparison. Good vid though
I agree. This just happened to be what I had in the garage. Lol. Thanks for checking the vid!
@@JonsMotoGarage i have a 2018 R-Spec right now....I'm still not sure if I regret it or not...the lack of aftermarket is what's killing me right now, and seating/peg position, stock seat, how large the aircleaner is, etc lol. I just laid mine over the other day 'cause someome cut me off....i wish they would've totaled it out tbh.....if given the chance would you take the BMW K1600 or the Goldwing? Trying to pick my next bike haha
Dang, sorry to hear about the accident. That is a great thing about harleys - aftermarket parts galore! (if you can afford it. lol). Regarding the bmw or goldwing, I've never ridden the bmw so can't speak to it. But I've heard great things about em both. I should have a goldwing f6b impressions vid coming soon for additional perspective. If possible, try to get your hands on both and take em for a joy ride! Easier said than done! Lol. Thanks for the support, bro! Ride safe!
@@JonsMotoGarage awesome thanks man! I already tried to ride safe, what's plan B? Lol. Definitely earned a sub man, keep the rubber side down!
@@pulsartech2945hahaha...😎🤘
What year model Bolt? What exhaust on Blt? Do you like Scout Bobber better to ride...is it more fun to ride?
The bolt is a 2015 c-spec. The exhaust is a gp slip on (came on the bike when I bought it used). The scout bobber felt more refined, smoother, faster, etc. But it comes with a much higher price tag. Both are wicked fun bikes imo. Thanks for watching and commenting! Ride safe!
Jon's Moto Garage Thanks for the reply. What are you going to get next?