Harley Dyna vs Sportster! Is it a REAL HARLEY?
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There you see! The Dyna's okay, but the sportster's still better! Don't believe me, go rent one on Twisted Road and see for yourself. Your first day is free when you click here: www.twistedroad.com/ref/yammie
...too top heavy compared to a big twin....
🤠 Yammie, I'm from Austin. I have a 2019 Lowrider Softail 107, still fully stock. If ya'll interested in testing it, let me know.
Yammie I've been watching your vids for years now and I have to say, your method of reviewing motorcycles is flawed. And here's why...
When you review a motorcycle you always have an internal bias and tend to compare whatever bike you ride to something that you already know you love. Often times the bikes you are comparing are completely different and you miss the essence of what the bike is, who it's for, what kind of riding it's for, etc. You don't seem to review a motorcycle as a standalone bike and give them the credit they deserve.
I consider myself an enthusiest and have owned 15 or 16 bikes over the years. From a 955i to a TW200 to an R1 to a Sportster XR1200X and some older bikes like an 86' VMAX and Fazer 700. I worked at a Harley dealership and rode just about every model in the last 30 years as well as just about every trade in. Every bike has a story. Every bike has a personality. Every bike has a history. I just feel your review method could be a little different to do bikes more justice. I'm open to sharing my experience and knowledge with you guys if you want. Long live motorcycles.
"a modern 650 will walk all over this bike".. a 90s suzuki bandit 400 would trash that overweight harley
I've been on a couple harleys. Sporty to road King. And a heavily modded dyna.
Pretty lack luster even compared to a 800cc VTX.
They really don't make good quality stuff. Accept the paint jobs and merch.
I'm not surprised that you had the reaction you did. Mine was the same...
"What the fuck? I thought this 1800cc murican powerhouse would smoke my 600cc rice rocket!" Nope. A 400cc ninja will outpull a Harley any day. It's pretty sad...
I think Yam and Spite are slowly taking us on a journey to discover there never was a real Harley. Or maybe the real Harley was inside us all along.
The real Harley was the friends we made along the way
😂😂😂
Lemme tell you why Honda is the real Harley 😂😂
@@herosdiaz8757😂😂
Anything is a Harley if you believe enough.
Maybe the REAL Harley is the friends we made along the way.
im just glad jons moto got mentioned!
Yeah I was happily surprised they did that
Woo hoo!!!
🦅🤘🔥🔥🔥🤘🦅
@@JonsMotoGarage yo it's him man!
Harley recently left my country, so I can't buy Harleys anymore. Sad.
The Sportster has a engine type that was built for speed. That's why it has a quad-cam engine design. The Sportster was created in 1957 to compete against the European Bikes back then. Sportster's have been used for Road Racing in the 1960's and Flat Track, Hooligan, and Drag Racing all the way to present times.
Why is this type of HD V-Twin the best HD Air-Cooled Platform for racing? It's Quad-Cam engine design allows the push-rods to be able to align themselves straight and vertical with the lifters and rocker-arms and not at an angle. In a push-rod motor this helps when trying to hit higher rpm's.
The big block HD's where never designed to be race motors. They were designed to be air-cooled engines that can run all day at Freeway speeds; they were designed to be touring engines. But, because of those that want to say that they ride the Big HD's, the Sportster has been frowned upon by those that want to be Macho Men.
The Sportster platform, especially the non rubber-mounted one's, are awesome platforms for performance upgrades for cornering and other forms of performance riding; you can turn a Sportster into just about any kind of Bike you desire. You cannot do that with Dyna's or any other Big Block HD.
Sportster are awesome Bikes when you know more about them and what they were originally intended to be. They are the longest running and existing HD Motorcycle Platform. So, when I hear People call them a Girls Bike or Beginner's Bike or not a Real HD, I know I am listening to somebody that doesn't really know much about HD's... Peace, Stiletto :-)
Stiletto Big thumbs up for steel mounted sportsters. Compared my brother’s ‘04 to an ‘07 Sportster that I was interested in buying and the experience felt significantly more dull with rubber mounts.
Granted, my brother’s bike was already built to the teeth from the previous owner, but the massive vibrations made the bike feel like a rickety vintage go-cart death trap. That’s strangely the allure of owning a HD though.
On the other hand, Japanese bikes have felt like high tech spacecrafts from the future since riding a Sportster.
Who the hell in present time is using their sportster for drag racing let alone racing?😂 they’re so heavy, slow, and have terrible turning and lean angling why? They’re so outdated.
vebez59 The same people who rebuild vintage muscle cars...
Thank you brother the point I have been trying to get across to the "real Harley " Boys. The Sporty is and will always be my favorite Harley just for all the facts you pointed out. Loved since 1957 I just hope Harley does not drop the Sportster line up in the 2021 line up they are iconic motorcycles. Again thank you.
@@vebez5993 well, drag racing would include AMRA Pro Gas, Pro Modified, Modified, Pro Street, and Hot Street,. In addition, the Top Fuel and Nitro Funny Bikes allow 4 cam Big Twin cases to get the push rod angle as @Baby Vanta described... In fact, the only classes that don't allow four cam cases are Pro Dresser and Street Dresser...
The thing to remember about a Dyna is that they can do it all. Want to rip wheelies? You got it. Want to throw bags on it and do some touring? Go ahead. Want to build something to have some fun through canyons or tracks? Do it. It’s not going to be the best at any of those, but it’ll do all of them with a smile.
As the owner of a 2001 dyna wide glide, I agree.
The black one looks like the other black one, hell what do us Brit's know.
The other black one has a brown seat and faux-chrome pipes. Huge difference, bro.
There is a reason I want to repaint mine an eggshell off white. ;)
Innit bruv?
You can say this about any bike though .....all sports bike look the same bar a few subtle differences and paint
Glad to see yammie finally on a dyna. Although I think he went in with a closed mind and prejudices
I feel like he always does...
The Harley V-twins have soul. The metric bikes are appliances which run perfectly but are just lacking any personality.
I agree with you to a certain extent. Not everyone is riding their bikes for speed, so they shouldn't be judged for speed. It's like judging an off road 4x4 for speed, it was never intended to be fast.
He is comparing the harley to sports bikes when they aren't ment to be sports bikes. Is that so hard for him to understand. It's apples to oranges, not supposed to be the same. I prefer oranges, other people prefer apples, but they aren't supposed to be the same.
Currently the Sportster is the model that most closely captures the spirit of what was initially envisioned by Harley Davidson.
Sportsters, and softails - the dynas and touring chassis bikes idk. The dyna is ok if you want a sportsterish bike that's also ok on longer trips I guess. The big touring bikes have no harley spirit, might as well be a goldwing.
It’s more fun riding a small bike fast than a big bike slow. Who woulda thunk?
IKR. My buddy just got a 2020 1,000 cc Harley or whatever and I recently got a ninja 400 2020. I just KNOW my lightweight ninja bike is much more fun HAHAHAHHAHA
U don’t even have to shift going on the freeway lmao. U can just cruise in like 2nd gear LOL. Just get an electric bike at that point . Shits way faster no?
I have a lot to say about this topic. At the end of the day it’s up to the riders preference
@F iwontsaynoshit can tell ya a kid, and people don't just get bikes for speed, some enjoy riding and hearing them and being free
for me its more fun riding a small bike slow.. the sound of a sportster with some pipes and the wind in your face is what its about. some people wonder why harley guys dont like to wear helmets.. its about the experience of riding and freedom, also the fact that you aren't trying to get from a to b as fast as possible. its just more comfortable to ride a cruiser style bike as well.
That 1275 upgrade will bring that sportster to life. Can't wait
I have the 883, and i love it because it can be modified to anything you want it to be. From scrambler to chopper to adventure, if you have the budget you can turn it into the motorcycle you want it to be. Currently mine has miniape, custom seat, custom sissy bars, forward controls and now I'm waiting for my two into one's to come...still much more modifications to do.. it's one customisable and beautiful motorcycle 👍🏽
Yammie, you are way too young to be tucking t shirts into jeans hahaha
I always tuck my shirt in when wearing a riding jacket. Otherwise it looks like you have a skirt on over your pants 🤷♂️
@@Zybra13 ^^^
@@yammienoob Don't listen to the haters, only proper thiccc Busa bois hate the tuck
@@Zybra13 but, do you do it all the time even when you're not riding?
maximus9401 I’ve almost always been an untucked t shirt wearer. I did go through a ‘phase in college,’ lol. What was strange was how hard it became to untuck once I’d started tucking for a few months.
Hells to the yeah, my dude! Very much on point, tbh. Lol. 🤣
As a Dyna bro that commented on yesterday video.... idk how I feel about this lol I don’t agree with a lot but I can also see where you’re coming from on your perspective. The Dyna has its time and place and purpose for sure. And I think us Dyna bro’s kinda like that charm about it. It’s not perfect, it’s heavy, not that sporty, but god damn it fills that “tingle in my balls” feeling and love for motorcycling for me personally. I sometimes just go sit and look at it just because it’s so beautiful to me. Fits my tastes, I don’t like going fast or carving up twisties, and it has a cool factor beyond others for me. 🤷🏼♂️
I also wonder if the owner of that Bob did anything as far as stage 1 kit or at least getting the ECU flashed. Because if it's straight from the factory then yeah, he was just chugging along. Harleys are like the Master Sword. You have to level it up to unlock its true potential. That's one of the points of owning a Harley. Make it yours. Until then they're pretty anemic. I'd like to see him ride Blockheads 131 Low Rider S or Shade Tree's Road King Kong.
@@aragos32727 that would be interesting 😂
It’s cuz it’s a stock street bob
aragos32727 oh yea totally! Mine is staged 1 as well. Adds like 12-15 HP
aragos32727 I’d like to see him ride anything with an s&s carb
I rode a 2020 Lowrider S for several months. I put 4000 miles on it. I sold it for a new 2020 Iron 883. I have to say that I love both motorcycles; however, that bullet proof, tried and true, 883 really puts a smile on my face. The vibration is more in the feet on the 883, but less in the hands. I love the sound of the 883. I love how easy it is to lean into curves and back from a parking spot. I love the lower price of the 883, and that means a lower price on everything. Lower taxes, lower insurance, less expensive Michelin Scorcher tires that I like, lower price and simpler service. The Iron 883 really brings me joy.
This dude just does not like Harley-Davidson or get it. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Hey Guys , I have owned a lot off different bikes in my past . 4 Years ago I have purchased a 2010 XL 1200 N ( Black Ice Denim ) . I must say , it is fricken awesome . Not the most expensive , or the fastest but it is 1 of the best bikes I have owned and will still own for years to come . I just love it . The noise , the rattles etc . Just fricken awesome .
Guys your doing it wrong now.. removing the fenders adds 100hp
I had one and it basically feels like a bigger Sportster with a better engine. At 6'2 the Sportster feels cramped and the Dyna felt good.
Ayyyyy yooo we got a chad up in here
I'm 62 and ride a 48 with forward controls and drag bars and it works for me
Same i love my 1200 16inch apes and fwdcontrols stretches me out but next season I’m gonna need a softail
That’s how I’ve always felt. They’re basically just a sportster plus
At 6'2" myself, if ya really love sporty's you can easily make it comfortable, even for longer rides.
R6:R1 = XL:FX. Dyna wheelbase really shines cruising at 100+mph
Johnny the Menace you mean it’s top speed of 109😂
carson willett. I’ve done 120+ on my dyna, what you mean
Gus Ramirez km/hr right 🤣
The Dyna’s also don’t sell from the showroom floor anymore. They’re discontinued
I went from a Sportster XL883L with 412 shocks and new front springs and fluid to a Road King. The Road King is peak Harley, no huge faring, a rear air suspension and all day comfort. Floor boards mean you can put the balls of your feet on the floorboard for control or your whole foot for a more relaxed ride. The Road King handles so much better than the Sportster. I would be super curious to see what you guys think of a Twin Cam Road King. I bomb up and down the Colorado Mountains on mine and it is much better than the sportster.
Stock Air Intake, Stock Pipes, Stock Suspension. You're just not going to get a real dyna experience stock. Sad to say but Harley doesn't make them great, builders, tuners, and wrenchers make them great.
Bout time someone said it but he yam won’t see this ... 🙄🙄
He literally acknowledges that on the videos about the sportster...
But tbh the fact you have to spend more money and time to make a bike decent is an indictment on the company making it.
It means that the Harley is crap but the community who ride it are clever and resourceful.
My grandfather was an aircraft mechanic in the Cuban Army ( before Castro ) for 25 years , after his retirement he became a Harley Davidson mechanic 9 he only worked on Harleys , no other bikes ; one day I asked him if he loved Harleys that much to the point of only working on them , his reply was ... The only thing that I like about Harleys is the fact that they break down a lot so I always have work and my business is booming . His ride was a black R50 BMW . The bike still exists and is in a very healthy condition .
Spite walked right up to something I’ve always said: The Sportster isn’t a cruiser, it’s a standard. It gets lumped in with cruisers because of the bigger Harleys, but it’s really a different thing. I wish Harley would ship it with better rear suspension, but I guess that’s what the parts catalog is for. Hopefully I will have one soon.
I traded my my 2008 Sportster for my 2002 FXDL. It has forward controls (I’m 5’5”). I noticed a big difference in riding. My Dyna doesn’t take the twisty roads like the Sportster, but I enjoy riding the Dyna much more. My Dyna is 1450cc, and it came with a lot of goodies. I’m not into speed, so I’m cool with it.
Now, I plan on adding different bikes in the riding time I have left (I’ll be 60 soon) and sport bikes and/or naked bikes are on the list for consideration as my wallet allows, so I may have a different opinion after riding those bikes. In any case, I won’t part with my Dyna. It helps that it’s beautiful bike.😎
You spelled "RREEEEEEAALLL" incorrectly
*spelt
Definitely ride a Fat Bob, it’s a very nice muscle bike that has the Milwaukee 8 114 in it. You won’t be unimpressed
The Milwaukee eight is equally unimpressive on paper. Low output Vs displacement, short powerband and pretty much like every other Harley.
Rode sport bikes from 1991 to 2015 (1991 CBR600F2, 1994 CBR900RR, 1998 CBR1100XX, 2005 ZZR1200, 2011 GSXR600). Enjoyed them very much. Bought a new 2015 Low Rider in 2015. While not as fast, much more comfortable and does not get bucked by the wind like lighter weight bikes. Very pleased with the Dyna LR.
Thanks for the comparison , when i bought my Dyna (FXDBA) it was the fuel tank capacity that put me off the Sportsrer . I have traveled more miles/kilometers on this bike than any other that i have owned but i still feel the need for a Sporster in m y life !
Those are not T bars.
I got a Sportster for the size. I really like my 2013 1200 XLC
I love my 09 1200c, does everything I need it to and looks bad a$$.
Just picked up a 2012 1200c. Enjoying!
“I don’t mean to compare” continues to compare it to every bike😂
One thing you should take into account is that almost no one buys a harley and leaves it stock.
Actually I CAN say that there is a huge difference between the two bikes. More comfortable, better suspension, more power, better brakes, more fuel, and more customizable. I have tried the Ducati Diavel, it was kind of boring, and the Triumph rocket III feels cheap, and handles like a top heavy piece of junk. Do those two have more power? Yep. But they kinda suck.
Slking5.56 you must be on something if you actually road those bikes and thought that. Must be nostalgia 😂
@Ekim Nayr top heavy can be useful, this is correct. It is more annoying on the Rocket III then beneficial. It actually makes the handling clunky. Pair that with the overall poor build quality and voila. Piece of junk.
@@toofastnobrakes I don't give a shit about nastalgia.
Um…sportsters have a huge network of parts available for all sportster platforms. A 1200 sporty will smoke any Dyna off the line too.
I hopped on a sportster for the first time and was expecting to hate it and I loved it. Still don't know what all the hate is all about.
I love my Dyna lol. For me, it was the perfect size for my ride style. I use my Dyna for long-distance rides and rides for the day. I mostly have my bags removed on my Dyna, and if I am planning a distance ride I add the saddlebags on. As well the frame of the Dyna from 2001 and up are able to go up to the 120r engine. This makes the bike to be very good in my opinion. I am running a 95 cubic inch conversion with some other upgrades. Of course, maybe later I will upgrade the motor on my bike. I have owned my bike for several years and I have upgraded many things for my ride comfort.
H-D makes a different animal than everybody else. Heavier. The ride. Build quality. Sound. Vibration. Tradition. If H-D made a “better” bike like the Japanese, H-D customers wouldn’t buy it. I wouldn’t want it. I wanted a H-D for all the good and bad. I carried H-D brochures around with me as a truck driver until the vibration of the truck wore the color off the cover. More than 20 years after that, I got one; loved it.
Same here. I wanted one for more than 30 years but couldn't afford it.
I have a Yamaha XS650 that I've been riding for years. Last night I took delivery of a 2009 Sportster. It already had the pipes on it that I wanted. The first time I started the bike it was an experience that I've never had on a Japanese bike. Cracking the throttle and feeling the engine vibration while the pipes were singing that sweet H-D sound. It's a multi-sense experience that I won't get tired of.
awrwayne , that’s awesome. Hope you enjoy it. We may not get to do everything we want in life, but it sure is nice when something like this works out. Funny that mine came with aftermarket pipes, too - the Vance & Hines large diameter pipes that angle down. I’m way too cheap to drop $700 on an exhaust. Sounded great. Louder than I would’ve dared do myself, but I had the great excuse they came with the bikes. Every time I started it in my little garage, it would rattle your brain - loved it. Ride safe.
You don’t have it anymore?
@@jerrylyles5506, I bought a 2020. Faster. Handles good. Stops good. Has a lot less Elvis in it. The older Twin Cam vibrated a little at idle and sounded better - like climbing on top a WW II fighter airplane. Eventually I may try to pick up an older HD, maybe an Evo. And I’m not even getting into the politics of the company.
No worries man, you guys arent harley fans, no big deal. I settled on a 2020 low rider s and i love it. I personally dont see the appeal of sports bikes, so we complete the whole! Haha.
And this, my fellow squidlets, is the universal truth. Let everyone ride whatever they love. That's why a beginner shouldn't settle on one type of motorcycle, but instead try some different options and see which one they find the most appealing to their needs.
i’m 56 i had the same sentiment 35 years ago. If you just need it to “be a Harley” Sportster it’s o.k. Everything else sought out is found in a 1999 Valkyrie, Made in USA. 🇺🇸
Sportster revs higher, is lighter. And for sure handles better... but the dyna has the six speed which makes freeway riding smoother. There's the difference boys
I have a 2012 Sportster 1200 that I love, way I see it. I am 5'5 140lbs. I probably fit it just as well as your typical Dyna Bro would fit a Dyna. But I do love the look of a Dyna with bar risers and a fairing!
Watching this makes me want to see:
A) What you guys think of an Indian Scout (or Scout) 60 versus the giveaway Sportster
B) How a veteran Harley guy would react to riding a variety of other bikes ranging from some classics from other brands like, say, a Triumph Speed Twin or a Guzzi V7 or possibly some nakeds like a SuperDuke or MT09, or even something a bit bonkers like an R1 or Panigale. Would be interesting to hear their impressions. Not something that's so fast that it's all about the speed; more something different where the difference can be felt on multiple levels.
The scout 60 is a better bike.
The scout stomps the sportster stupid. They would really like it because it’s numbers compare with fz07. As far as a Harley-Davidson rider on other bikes... I’ve ridden other bikes. In my heart of hearts, the triumph and Ducati scramblers speak to me in a way no Harley could. I’ve ridden nakeds, liters, adventures, tourers (other than Harley), metric cruisers... For the majority of my riding, the Harley softail is the best bike for me. I ride for hours at a time, usually with a passenger, up and down the Rocky Mountains. I see why people like other bikes, but I have the Swiss army bike that does everything I need, while others may do some parts better, none would do it all that well. Most sporty bikes don’t let me run for half as long. Are they faster? Yep. Are they more nimble? Yep. But my softail will let me go a little slower on a twisty road for four times as long comfortably. My naked riding buddy didn’t believe me till I showed him. He is shopping for a Harley-Davidson or Indian now. I joke that I’m not a biker, I ride my bike way more that them... haha. I put 19000 on a dyna I had for 2 1/2 years, just to show what I’m saying.
Put one on a vtx 1800 lmao
When are you going to rent a Vmax?
☝️This. I want that bike bad.
If you really want to feel the difference between a sportster and a dyna, take a 50 mile ride on the interstate at 75 - 80 mph
They're different because the sporty likes to rev high and has its power and higher, and the dyna power is lower down.
Sportster vs softail should happen, would love to hear your opinions.
Ya'll should upgrade your sporty to match the older roadster (04~07? in the US) with 13" rear shocks and accompanying front shock upgrade.
It handles so much better in a corner.
I can't wait to see you guys give it the full 1250~1275cc upgrade and see what you guys think.
yam is a harley simp now
Brings in the viewers. Can only do so many "what's the best beginner bike?" videos.
@@robotbjorn4952 Yeah, I get he's running a business and going by his metrics, but I personally just couldn't give less of a shit about Harleys.
@@blessedbethecurse
I feel you. Harleys are embarrassing, slow boomer larpwagons for 60 year old leather-daddy dentists to make noise on while frowning at everyone through sunglasses... all the while the opening riff from "bad to the bone" plays on repeat in their minds..
Easily the most cliché and least interesting thing on two wheels. Just rationalizing Yam's decision.
@@robotbjorn4952 Yeah, you can even see, he personally doesn't care about them either, but he'll keep pumping Harley videos out as long as they get views.
I actually really like it when he does ADV/Supermoto/Dual-sport kinda off-road stuff, but those are apparently his worst performing videos, even though he seems to enjoy making them. Maybe they'd do better if he did some cross-promotional stuff with other UA-camrs he'd be able to draw in more of those viewers to his channel. It's weird, because Harley is dying and the ADV segment is booming when it comes to bikes being sold. Not sure why there would be such a disconnect between that and UA-cam views.
@@blessedbethecurse My man if I could make supermoto and ADV style videos and they did as well as the Harley videos, I'd be so happy lol. I love riding off road and talking about it, sad that not many care :(
Everyone gangsta till your ball shavers rev higher than your motorcycle
The Sportster, Dyna, and Softail models are the quintessential Harleys. While other bikes such as touring model Harleys, sportbikes, and even the Busa, will always tell you what they are and you can't really change them enough to get away from that. The Sportster, Dyna, and Softail models are book of blank pages that the owner writes his or her own story in.
The Dyna models were plagued with engineering issues that eventually led to the model's demise. It was these issues that kept the bike from being very popular until the show Sons of Anarchy. Unfortunately, that was also how the model's issues came to receive a lot more scrutiny.
I believe that you will find that the bike you were riding was bone stock. Harley has always left a lot of power in the engine that the owner could either customize the engine to bring out that power or not. The 103 can be brought up to over 100HP and well over 100lb/ft of torque.
Buying a Harley is more than purchasing a bike. You are entering a worldwide community of the Harley network. Harley dealerships are very social places, and gatherings happen every week. You can travel the world and always have a place to stop and rest for a few minutes, get a free cold beverage, and hang out with other riders. On weekends, there is usually food, music, entertainment, and quite frequently a charity ride.
I am finding out that it is a lot more than just a bike, and gaining a lot of respect for the Harley community.
Coming from a Victory fan boy.
The weird flexy thing is called dyna wobble lol it’s a very real problem that was quickly resolved in the new softails
Had a Dyna, believed the hype about it being better handling. Had a bad hop/wobble session cornering and the handling dream was shattered.
Softail is a completely different chassis than the Dyna.
@@notsure7874 yes that’s why it replaced the dyna frame
@@bobbyromo69 Idk, they didn't really replace the dyna with the softail, they just stopped making the dyna. The softail has been around longer than the dyna by a good bit.
@@bobbyromo69 And the softails never had the problems the dyna did - so they didn't resolve the problems in the softail - the softail never had them.
The path of choosing a harley is basically deciding if interstate comfort is what you're looking for or not. If you don't care about long trips the a sportster is fine. If you do then a dyna is fine (If you're peak peak boomer then a touring model is fine). There's no comparison of a harley to almost any other motorcycle because people buy a harley to have a harley. It being a harley is the selling point. A mistake, I believe, is people saying harly and "sport performance" in the same scentence. I think that just misses the whole point.
Got a Dyna for my first motorcycle, an FXDF. I was not comfortable on the Sportster with my 6'2 height, nearly 37 inch inseam. Knees were basically in my chest. So, just to try it, I test rode the Dyna Fat Bob and felt much more comfortable. It already had Vance and Hines full exhaust and a FP3 on it when I bought it, so not sure if it performs better than your Street Bob. I have ridden Mt. Lemmon on it and thought it felt very comfortable, even pushing my skill level. For perspective, I have been riding about 8 months, with a few courses taken. Not too much experience, but regardless, for a taller rider, especially with longer legs, AND more maturity, I would opt for the bigger Dyna, despite the stigma the Dyna has. Chief Darkhorse is the next endeavor.
Shoulda tried a model with Forward controls. I'm 6'4, 36 inseam, never ever felt cramped up on my XLC. Rode it for 12 years and counting, I've now got a FXFBS sitting beside it, and the Sportster is actually more roomy that the Fat Bob riding them back to back.
Yeah, I guess I could have. Glad I went with the Dyna Fat Bob though. Not scary power, but plenty to get out of traffic, stock forward controls, didn't have to mod anything when I bought it, and I was underwhelmed test riding a Sportster 48 after riding my Dyna for about 3 weeks. Even though it's not a "beginner bike," (then again by most standards neither is a Sportster, it's just a beginner Harley) the way I ride is still very cautious and responsible. I have gotten very comfortable and familiar with how it rides though, dirt roads and all. Planning a motocamping trip next summer from AZ to Yellowstone, then down through the Redwoods and Highway 1 back to AZ. Longer trips are more attainable with the greater fuel capacity, another reason I went for the Dyna Fat Bob. And, with your height, I highly recommend a LePera Daddy Long Legs seat, by the way. World of difference compared to stock, even though the stock seat on the FXDF was pretty comfortable.
37" inseam, yet just 6'2"??? Do you have a torso?!😭😭😭
Nope. No torso.
Love watching the evolution of your video production. Great job keep up the good work.
I used to have a 883 Sportster,. Ive wanted a dyna, but grew out of the Harley phase. I recently bought a 2020 390 duke. The Duke is a quicker bike and handles and corners better.
To me, riding a Dyna is like riding on a chair. A Sportster with an S&S big bore kit is so much more fun to ride on
Ride a softail with an M8 in it... Like a 2020 lowrider s with the 114
I own a 2017 iron 883 and I absolutely love it! Won’t ever trade up, saving up to do the 1275 kit with cams bored out heads the whole deal. Awesome vids
You drop gasoline on fire with your comments, "Just a larger Sportster" "Well is not a fast bike, it's a Harley" ai ai
Yammie Noob looks exactly like the boys who race at the british superbikes .
My brain is with the softail but my heart is with the sportster!
Not a Harley guy at all...I own Triumphs and Honda’s...but have to say your comparisons are deeply flawed. You would never compare a Ford Mustang with a Ferrari.
R E Thats because a Ferrari costs considerably more than a mustang. This would be like comparing a Ferrari to a mustang, but the mustang is the more expensive than the Ferrari, as the Harley is more expensive than many other bikes.
Good move with the Dyna Street Bob, fellas. I am just glad you gave it a shot. 😉
YES, BUT!!!! Did the dyna melt your boots!?!? 🤨
🤘🤠 Hey Guys, I see ya'll riding around Metric Blvd . Cheers from Austin Texas
I know for me harleys are more like a family tradition. Like when I ride it gives me a sense of family.
"I mean at this point they are growing in popularity" And here we are 2 years later, both models already dead
Never road a dyna but own a sportster and a road king two completely different rides my road king is comfortable and the sportster is fun ......
I have my 2014 Dyna and it is the best Harley ever....I drove them all, and wanted to switch for Bagger...but who wants to drive a tank that is hard to maneuver in twisty roads? I want something fast, and powerful like Dyna....I am keeping it....
Spite's sentiments are why I traded in my Ninja 650 for a sportster 1200. The Ninja is probably an objectively better motorcycle, but riding it every day was just kind of boring and uninspiring. It did everything well, but it felt like it didn't have any personality or character. When I jump on the sporty I definitely feel the character of the sportster every time, and it makes me happy and stoked to get out and ride in a way that the ninja didn't.
Oooh that brown seat on the dyna is an eye sore.
That is the street bobiest street bob I’ve ever seen
Why run an 883 against a much larger motor? Why would you not at least run the Dynasaur against a 1200 Sportster?
It is if you own one.Harley is as whole different scene,than sportbike.Harley to most is a lifestyle.If you know,you know.
Its pretty well known. Just look at all the midlife crisis SOA cosplayers
Dyna was my dream bike. I bought it hate it and sold it. The engine I liked. The frame is absolutely joke. The front wheel is connect to the frame and the rear wheel is connect directly to the engine. Between frame and engine are rubber mounts. Is it like when you cut the bike half and connect the front and back section with rubbers. I am not kidding now, that is what is it. You can’t feel the road surface on this thing. And then the vibrations and brakes o my god... I bought softail slim and it’s great compared to this bad joke. Is 103 doesn’t vibrate,the frame is normal like on any another motorcycle on the word , the front brake is better plus has abs.. Only the engine doesn’t has that lightness to go up with rpm because is dragging the contra balanced weights, but honestly very happy with it. It is not jerky in cruise speed... you will find out
You say the Twin Cam engine is better than the Evo. And yet, Harley replaced it with the M8.
The Sportster still has the Evo. The Dyna no longer has the Twin Cam. I think this speaks for itself.
I really dont understand the harley crowd. They all talk like their bikes are so fast, but up until the Vrod they were the laughing stock. Every year I go to a harley demo day and eventually ended up buying a roadster with the intention of doing a Hammer 1275 build, but the people i ride with swear up and down its so fast, they have no idea. They need $4000 in engine mods to keep up with a 70whp MT07....
Yammie you never give Harley credit for helping kill the Nazis. When I ride mine I feel Americana and that's good enough for me
I ride my 883 with buddies who have dynas and street bobs and I keep up no problem. Keeping my 883 for a long time
Hey Yammie,
I went to Harley to buy a Softail sport glide , then i asked to test ride the a Softail Street-Bob and a Sportster 48. I felt that they are similar in handling just that the Softail feel a bit bigger. I wasn't convinced to buy the Softail, the sales man did his best to convince me but no success, so went with the 1200T.
If I buy a Harley it should be a Sportster or Bagger. Other ways for our Europeans roads the best is BMW R1250RT for Touring better than a Harley and much cheaper.
I agree with the price ranges, but hey if you can grab a dyna, got mine in March and I love it, wouldn’t trade it for any other Harley 🤘🏻
I am veteran, a 2014 Sportster 883 owner and hardcore Harley enthusiast from Chennai India and Dyna Street Bob next bike customer. There may be 1000 flaws in Dyna when comparing all brands of motorcycles, but I still love the Dyna street Bob and Dyna fat Bob, the only problem any customer would face is money, that's the only minus, but riding a heavy cruiser with bad ass attitude and style without stability, without ergonomics, without any qualities of any Chinese, japanese or European bikes is what Harley Davidson is known for, you will never get the feel of riding Harley in any other brand in the world, this one reason is enough for buying a evolution, or Dyna twin engines motorcycle. I like big cruisers, or choppers like big dog K9, I love these type of motorcycle.
Anyway good comparison video to get some knowledge about others feel about Dynas. Of course sportster I know as myself I am owning and riding it.👍
1. Dyna Street Bob
2. Dyna Fat Bob
3. V Rod Muscle
4. Big dog K9 .
Do you agree all these are very bad ass like no other in the world..No wonder USA is the best in all the world even in motorcycle styling.
Dyna’s are not made anymore! Euro 4 requires ABS standard, Euro 5 requires traction control standard. Sportster engine will not be around for long especially in Europe .
Are you sure about traction control? There are several Euro 5 bikes out there without it. Or does it depend on HP? I thought the main difference between Euro 4 and 5 was emissions and max allowed loudness of the bike.
Everyone has their own idea , limits of HI-PERFORMANCE, i have 3 NINJAS
“super chill”. Ya it’s a cruiser.
I have an iron 883 with the upgrade rear suspension. I like it a lot, but it will probably be the only HD bike I ever buy. I just love the Japanese nakeds too much...
Always pleasure hearing you
Hi Yammie
I am from Australia and have been riding bikes on and off for over 25 years and I find your UA-cam channel to be the best DanDanthe fireman is a close second. I have also watched just about all your videos from this one back 4 years. I am about to get my m109r in 3 weeks. It is blue and chrome. So my question for you is, come you do a short video on how to pick up a large bike safely. Thanks for all the info and keep up the great work.
XR1200 FTW!!! 💪🏻👊🏻
Having previously owned a sportster 1200 and now owning a 07 Dyna. I will hands down take the Dyna every time
Good on you for the Jon's Moto shout! Love his and Jackies' channels! ~old dude
That was the stock exhaust scraping. I’ve ripped the clamps off and ripped it off the bracket from scraping. I don’t like muscle cruisers. I also don’t like sport bikes. But I do like a big v-twin cruiser for the braps and throwing some 13” shocks with a 2-1 exhaust, cams, and a tune. It’s not about being the fastest because there’s always someone faster and the street isn’t a track. It’s about what puts a smile on your face and is a ton of fun and that is what a dyna does very well. If I can do some rolling burnies and occasionally some whoolies in a parking lot. That makes for some extra fun on a great cruiser platform. Also just look at them. They’re beautiful. Well not that one. That guy has bad taste. But I got compliments everywhere on my old street bob and that was just because the factory charcoal pearl paint pops like a mf in the light
Picked up my first bike today, a 2016 Kawasaki ER6N. I shall now ride fast plzz in 6 gare.
To all of you, have a nice day and stay safe my dudes ✌🏼
I'm buying a sportster and the VERY first thing I'm gonna do is try to start it in first gear...
I like your thumbnail, you look really cool and excited, and what about your video?
WHY are you comparing it to R1's, MT10s and Hayabusa? They're high revving inline fours and this is a tractor engine, they do different things. It's like saying an elephant is useless because it can't climb trees. No matter what the torque figures say, it'll never deliver it's power like a sports bike.
the sporty is HDs oldest model been making them since 1957 I believe. Its a real HD. Better than a Dyna? I dont think so. Why not? Engine size. The Dyna is just a Big sportster in my opinion. I have a Dyna street Bob. I also own a few ironheads. Both are standards. Mid controls. Dyna just has a bigger motor. Therefore having a passenger on the Dyna is easier on the machine.
It's very hard for a non cruiser rider to compare two Harley's. My Dyna is my third bike. Previously had a Blade. Made for different reasons. Blade was quicker and handled better, stopped better. But if you're not pinning it it's boring to ride. Sure it's nice to chop some douche in their expensive car but short of that there are too few chances to ride it and really enjoy it. Track days are a small fortune in Sydney.
The old Harley adage if you have to ask you won't understand rings true. Sure the torque figure is close to the Blade but it revs like a diesel. But even getting to the Twistys is more fun. The challenge of trying to muscle a bike that isn't so precise is a lot of fun. As for the vibration just suck it up. The Dyna vibrates less the faster you go. At idle you mix a tin of paint hanging from the bars.
One of the biggest appeals for a Harley is the level of customisation. Which is almost mandatory because the suspension is rubbish. So are the brakes, but using the gears will get around that. People who ride conventional bikes grab a handful of the front and nothing happens. Happened to me the first time I rode one.
But to say they had more fun riding g the smaller bike by revving it out is true. The happiest riders I come across are P players thrashing a little 250. The grin from ear to ear because they are wringing its neck.
The smaller tanks on sporties makes them less ideal for touring but it can still be done. Commuting is more tedious if you need to fill up all the time.
How about you compare son modded Harley's with just some simple stage 1 and see if you feel the same. With an opened up motor the gap will feel bigger. Realistically it would be the same mods that people do to a sports or naked bike.
At the end of the day some people but they spec sheet others buy the bike because of how it makes them feel. The latter is important because Davidson's have had a rubbish spec sheet for a long time