She is actually being very kind here. When I saw her many years ago in a small church in the states, she literally ripped everyone a new a-hole; brutally, but in the kindest and most loving way. We were all blown away by her!!!
the point also is, do you want to suffer it once when it happens or over and over again in your mind?! The assumption also seems to be, you wouldn't try to reach safety without putting yourself in a state of fear. Most often calm and collected reaches the best solutions
Yo sentiria miedo si me explota una pierna,o alguna parte de mi cuerpo y no me muero,tendria que sufrir ese dolor fisico.me da miedo el dolor fisico mio y de los animales y personas😢
Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that! The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first.
Is it true it won't work for a certain percentage of people? Is it true it has to work for everyone all the time? What does it mean for The Work to work? -- These could be a few questions one could put to your statements / beliefs.
I love Katie's work method, but her work with ppl often goes to this places where u can't relate and it all sounds like an attempt to ignore whatever happens. No, a person can't sit still and enjoy the flowers when sirens are going on, or bombs are going on. That's an awful thing she describes here, although I understand what she's trying to say.
Is it true nobody - not one person in the world - can sit still when that happens? Is it true you must remain glued to your sofa / chair and not try to save your life when you hear sirens? Is that what BK implies? Can we absolutely know that? Is it true you must save your life? Is it true everyone must be able to relate to everything she says? And what does 'relating' mean? - - These could be a few questions one could put to your statements / beliefs.
Me cuesta tambien en casos asi,igual con el sufrimiento animal,o asesinatos.el pensamiento "estas sufriendo" es fuerte,porque uno se siente mal por el sufrimiento del otro.no sabemos realmente si gritan o lloran es por su dolor fisico,aunque mi mente lo relaciona con un SI.:/ creo que deberiamos indagar el pensamiento: no deberian estar sufriendo",la realidad es que si deberian porque es lo que es,y ahi uno ayudar.y aceptar nuestra propia tristeza en ese momento
i agree ... she wanders off into a world of denial and dissociation, like other non-dualism teachers .. then it becomes dangerous .. you can train soldiers to go against their humanness by shouting orders to cut through fear it also makes it easier to kill other human beings .. ! Thus ignoring the REAL human feelings underneath ... to fear violence is a good thing .. surely ? It shows us that it is to be avoided !!! If bombs are falling and your children are in danger of course you arent going to sit there and ignore your fear and tell yourself "if my children are bombed its be the best thing that ever happened to me !!" this would be inhuman ... and this is where her philosophy can be dangerous ... it relies on a kind of cult-like hypnosis, that cuts through normal human instincts ... and also relies on peoples deep need for connection, especially wounded people, which everyone is to a degree ... BELONGING and being accepted, depends upon AGREEMENT ... so you see all these people denying their real feelings in order to appear like they have got the idea .. this is about hypnosis .. watch BK's hand signal that she repeats a lot .. two fingers together hypnotists all use certain signals to induce a state of hypnosis. All that being said I believe BK does have a genuine compassion .. but I thik her techniques are often questionable, she is contradicting herself as well .. she is basically saying its WRONG to be fearful, or afraid, or sad, or regretful .. etc ...but in other places, she is saying 'let yourself shake' what is wrong with shaking in fear ... let it be there .... SO on teh one hand she is saying DENY your feelings, on the other ACKNOWLEDGE them .. so she is not even consistent, and giving people only part of the truth, means they will come back for more ... and she continues to get the audiences and make the money , by keeping people on the 'hook'
@@mandar13579 what is true .. is what you DO in the moment ... and I bet there isn't one person including BK who would just sit still and not save their children .. .OR be saying to themselves 'this is the BEST thing that could be happening to my children ... and hey isnt it wonderful that they got blown to bits while I sat on the sofa doing BK's worksheet !!! ANYONE who attempts to cut through your normal HEALTHY human feelings, is likely just cutting you off from your roots in order to gain your full attention ..(like cults cut people off from their families .. ).. this usually benefits the cult leader in some way .. through profit or dependency of their followers. Its a mind f*** to put it bluntly. Trust the ones who LOVE you and who reassure you 'its ok to feel fear, terror, pain, as a human' .. its normal and natural to feel the whole spectrum of emotions in their natural context ... ie when they reflect an actual situation of threat, danger, genuine loss or trauma. Its when she goes over the bounds of natural human response to infer that these emotions are not necessary and tries to turn them into the opposite that i mistrust her ...its a kind of violence in itself. Inferring you should be free from fear is what they do to soldiers to get them to kill other human beings and go to war ... its hypnosis through CUTTING OFF natural human emotions. Hypnosis in other words. When you allow human feelings to be as they are , not to deny them (but not acting them out, or indulging them) then they can bring realisation and release, and you preserve your humanity .. if you wish to be someone who can watch your mother dying in pain from cancer and feel only joy, thinking its probably the 'best thing that could be happening to her' ... instead of being REAL and experiencing and acknowledging your grief in that moment ... then you are probably a ROBOT ! (notice her physical trick of the two (fore and middle) fingers when she is speaking .. (hypnotists use repetitive slightly unusual gestures as a tool for subconscious repatterning - (fine if you are aware of it and have agreed to it but not otherwise) If for some reason based on the individual situation you truly and genuinely feel joy in a situation of terror or loss, that is different. But trying to artificially feel what you aren't feeling, is not helpful. And everyone has their own process ... often you have to go right into the centre of something for it to transform itself ..so one day you might feel SUCH intense fear that an inner transformation occurs and you go to a space of intense peace and fearlessness ... but that is all an individual process, on an INDIVIDUAL timeline ... not something you can force ... (but you can make a heap of money pretending you can get others to force it !!!) ! As for calling victims 'violent' ... this is verging on insane What is REAL is what is TRUE , and what is TRUE comes from inside ourselves .. not from some external prescriptive formula from outside ... Her formula is PRESCRIPTIVE .and by its nature prescription means everyone needs the same answer ... but that is not real freedom. What is REAL is transformative and that comes from the INSIDE ... from our own awareness of and ability to to be true to what is real WITHIN ourselves .. not to twist our minds into pretzels to adopt some new theory of what freedom means . At moments where she genuinely stops trying to 'do her trick' on the mind, and actually MEETS THAT PERSON WHERE THEY ARE , rather than subtly giving them a message about who they SHOULD be ...then I believe her, because I see her genuine compassion .. But being REAL, doesn't bring the crowds in or make money .. when someone allows you to be REAL, the healing happens by itself, the freedom comes as a lived truth. If yo listen to most of the people she is doing her number on, they are all wanting to PLEASE ... to 'get it' like trying to solve a maths problem to please your maths teacher !!!!
shes not speaking German ! maybe Hebrew ! and its very common for people who can understand English cant always speak it fluently, plus there MAY possibly be an earphone with instant translation >
She is actually being very kind here. When I saw her many years ago in a small church in the states, she literally ripped everyone a new a-hole; brutally, but in the kindest and most loving way. We were all blown away by her!!!
I needed this. I been watching imgur Ukraine invasion all week!!!!! War in my mind!!
me too!!! I was looking for a positive distraction and this is what I found. grace
Thinking of war and sitting here with the flowers, that is so true!
that is called solidarity.
Thank you! I needed this too. Especially now.
„Reality is always kinder than your thinking.“ 🙏🏻✨
that is not true.
Thank you so much for posting this video ❤️
Please more❤
Thank you for this video.
Very powerful 💙💙💙
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Gracias !!
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this is gaslighting and strongly ignoring the fact that bombing could not just erase... but wound and injure
i agree
the point also is, do you want to suffer it once when it happens or over and over again in your mind?! The assumption also seems to be, you wouldn't try to reach safety without putting yourself in a state of fear. Most often calm and collected reaches the best solutions
Yo sentiria miedo si me explota una pierna,o alguna parte de mi cuerpo y no me muero,tendria que sufrir ese dolor fisico.me da miedo el dolor fisico mio y de los animales y personas😢
Amazing! But it will not work for 98% of the audience but you yourself know that! The fact is that Tolle's "Pain Body" turns out to have a physical body too, which works reflexively, automatically and constantly! You must discover it in yourself first.
Is it true it won't work for a certain percentage of people? Is it true it has to work for everyone all the time? What does it mean for The Work to work?
-- These could be a few questions one could put to your statements / beliefs.
I love Katie's work method, but her work with ppl often goes to this places where u can't relate and it all sounds like an attempt to ignore whatever happens. No, a person can't sit still and enjoy the flowers when sirens are going on, or bombs are going on. That's an awful thing she describes here, although I understand what she's trying to say.
Is it true nobody - not one person in the world - can sit still when that happens? Is it true you must remain glued to your sofa / chair and not try to save your life when you hear sirens? Is that what BK implies? Can we absolutely know that? Is it true you must save your life?
Is it true everyone must be able to relate to everything she says? And what does 'relating' mean? - - These could be a few questions one could put to your statements / beliefs.
@@mandar13579 well. there is war that is going on.
Me cuesta tambien en casos asi,igual con el sufrimiento animal,o asesinatos.el pensamiento "estas sufriendo" es fuerte,porque uno se siente mal por el sufrimiento del otro.no sabemos realmente si gritan o lloran es por su dolor fisico,aunque mi mente lo relaciona con un SI.:/ creo que deberiamos indagar el pensamiento: no deberian estar sufriendo",la realidad es que si deberian porque es lo que es,y ahi uno ayudar.y aceptar nuestra propia tristeza en ese momento
i agree ... she wanders off into a world of denial and dissociation, like other non-dualism teachers .. then it becomes dangerous .. you can train soldiers to go against their humanness by shouting orders to cut through fear it also makes it easier to kill other human beings .. ! Thus ignoring the REAL human feelings underneath ... to fear violence is a good thing .. surely ? It shows us that it is to be avoided !!! If bombs are falling and your children are in danger of course you arent going to sit there and ignore your fear and tell yourself "if my children are bombed its be the best thing that ever happened to me !!" this would be inhuman ... and this is where her philosophy can be dangerous ... it relies on a kind of cult-like hypnosis, that cuts through normal human instincts ... and also relies on peoples deep need for connection, especially wounded people, which everyone is to a degree ... BELONGING and being accepted, depends upon AGREEMENT ... so you see all these people denying their real feelings in order to appear like they have got the idea .. this is about hypnosis .. watch BK's hand signal that she repeats a lot .. two fingers together hypnotists all use certain signals to induce a state of hypnosis. All that being said I believe BK does have a genuine compassion .. but I thik her techniques are often questionable, she is contradicting herself as well .. she is basically saying its WRONG to be fearful, or afraid, or sad, or regretful .. etc ...but in other places, she is saying 'let yourself shake' what is wrong with shaking in fear ... let it be there .... SO on teh one hand she is saying DENY your feelings, on the other ACKNOWLEDGE them .. so she is not even consistent, and giving people only part of the truth, means they will come back for more ... and she continues to get the audiences and make the money , by keeping people on the 'hook'
@@mandar13579 what is true .. is what you DO in the moment ... and I bet there isn't one person including BK who would just sit still and not save their children .. .OR be saying to themselves 'this is the BEST thing that could be happening to my children ... and hey isnt it wonderful that they got blown to bits while I sat on the sofa doing BK's worksheet !!! ANYONE who attempts to cut through your normal HEALTHY human feelings, is likely just cutting you off from your roots in order to gain your full attention ..(like cults cut people off from their families .. ).. this usually benefits the cult leader in some way .. through profit or dependency of their followers. Its a mind f*** to put it bluntly.
Trust the ones who LOVE you and who reassure you 'its ok to feel fear, terror, pain, as a human' .. its normal and natural to feel the whole spectrum of emotions in their natural context ... ie when they reflect an actual situation of threat, danger, genuine loss or trauma. Its when she goes over the bounds of natural human response to infer that these emotions are not necessary and tries to turn them into the opposite that i mistrust her ...its a kind of violence in itself.
Inferring you should be free from fear is what they do to soldiers to get them to kill other human beings and go to war ... its hypnosis through CUTTING OFF natural human emotions. Hypnosis in other words. When you allow human feelings to be as they are , not to deny them (but not acting them out, or indulging them) then they can bring realisation and release, and you preserve your humanity .. if you wish to be someone who can watch your mother dying in pain from cancer and feel only joy, thinking its probably the 'best thing that could be happening to her' ... instead of being REAL and experiencing and acknowledging your grief in that moment ... then you are probably a ROBOT ! (notice her physical trick of the two (fore and middle) fingers when she is speaking .. (hypnotists use repetitive slightly unusual gestures as a tool for subconscious repatterning - (fine if you are aware of it and have agreed to it but not otherwise)
If for some reason based on the individual situation you truly and genuinely feel joy in a situation of terror or loss, that is different. But trying to artificially feel what you aren't feeling, is not helpful. And everyone has their own process ... often you have to go right into the centre of something for it to transform itself ..so one day you might feel SUCH intense fear that an inner transformation occurs and you go to a space of intense peace and fearlessness ... but that is all an individual process, on an INDIVIDUAL timeline ... not something you can force ... (but you can make a heap of money pretending you can get others to force it !!!) !
As for calling victims 'violent' ... this is verging on insane
What is REAL is what is TRUE , and what is TRUE comes from inside ourselves .. not from some external prescriptive formula from outside ... Her formula is PRESCRIPTIVE .and by its nature prescription means everyone needs the same answer ... but that is not real freedom.
What is REAL is transformative and that comes from the INSIDE ... from our own awareness of and ability to to be true to what is real WITHIN ourselves .. not to twist our minds into pretzels to adopt some new theory of what freedom means .
At moments where she genuinely stops trying to 'do her trick' on the mind, and actually MEETS THAT PERSON WHERE THEY ARE , rather than subtly giving them a message about who they SHOULD be ...then I believe her, because I see her genuine compassion .. But being REAL, doesn't bring the crowds in or make money .. when someone allows you to be REAL, the healing happens by itself, the freedom comes as a lived truth. If yo listen to most of the people she is doing her number on, they are all wanting to PLEASE ... to 'get it' like trying to solve a maths problem to please your maths teacher !!!!
this is just wrong
She can understand English but speaks in German, this doesn’t make sense 😢
not German
@@Wildgarden1 Russian?
@@mrwise7067 i have no idea but i don't understand it as a german
@@mrwise7067not Russian either
shes not speaking German ! maybe Hebrew ! and its very common for people who can understand English cant always speak it fluently, plus there MAY possibly be an earphone with instant translation >
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