She was too emotional though, in court you can’t be like that. Imagine if the prosecution or the judge acted like that. How unprofessional and biased everything would be.
@@emilianorodriguez8961 oh come on, what a shocker he would refer to a woman as being emotional when she was in fact frustrated and with good reason. trying to make a point so obvious and they just ignored. F that judge!
@@emilianorodriguez8961 also, as a woman, get ready... there would be times when you'll be incisive and a guy will turn to you and say "bro why u being so emotional?"
this is insane! the judge is absolutely awful to her, im nearly finished watching all of erik’s testimonies and any objection leslie has he overrules it but any other lawyer objecting it’s sustained, not only did he have a prejudice against erik and lyle but he had one against leslie too which is so unbelievably unprofessional
They didnt win because OJ was found not guilty and LA county never gave the brothers a fair trial. They stacked the cards against them to ensure a win.
leslie is absolutely correct. ✅ & it svcks that the judge said emotions are counterproductive. leslie is compassionate & passionate on what she’s fighting for.
If anyone is being too emotional, irrational and unable to discuss objectively, it's him. He is the one who would be more convincing if he stopped saying 'stop being so emotional', not her. All I heard is her discussing evidence
@123451248ify lol WHAT. As if that makes you unemotional?? It's about the content of what you're saying and in what context. She was being rational and he was being irrational, doesn't matter about the tone of voice
@@SlayerPDX no, the judge was crooked. He worked with the prosecution after they lost the oj murder case so they could get a conviction, which broke the sixth amendment that allows anyone and everyone to have a proper defense in a state of court. The prosecution took away their entire defense in the second trial, which was unconstitutional. abused or not, it wasn’t a fair situation for the brothers.
The obvious bias of the judge trying to blame the sons for their father's sexual violence. What a f***wit. He should've been sacked for being so prejudiced in this case.
This woman, Leslie Abramson, truly loved Erik like he was her own son. During his second trial, he ran out of money, and Leslie didn't care about that, she still defended him for free. That's how you know she truly cared about him and not just a paycheck. God bless her! 🩷🥺
It is also emotional to find her being emotional contraproductive. If he is rational he will judge the argument, not the manner in which it is delivered.
And that right there is sad and disgusting, trying to hone in on his sexuality. Because for some reason they(people in general) think or thought that it mitigates the crime. "Oh he's gay, therefore he wanted it" just sad@@thewormloop6885
With all the injustice and frustration in this case, I am happy that Erik got to experience somebody care so deeply about the suffering he faced and fight for his honor from her heart. Lyle's lawyers were great too, Leslie however has this intense maternal quality that was no doubt a healthy display for Erik compared to the coldness he got from his own mother. his slight smile as she defends him here makes me happy, knowing he saw the passion she felt in regards to him and his brothers long ignored pain
Leslie was being the 'protective parent' who faught to defend that these guys never had. No wonder they caught so hard for her to continue to represent them.
From South Africa, never knew about this,until o saw this now, I really feel so sad and sorry for these brothers. I hope and pray you will be free soon.
No matter he is gay or not his father's abuse to a minor child who has no knowledge of what's happening with his body is not legit at all. The judge is disgusting.leslie is the right person to defend Erik .
ugh I'm currently 12 consecutive hours through watching the trial and have already gotten angry so many times, and it's unbelievable that i'm just going to get even angrier during moments like this. the judge and prosecution, especially pamela bozanich, make my blood boil
The judge didn’t care about the proofs and evidences that accurately showcased the abuse the brothers went through. He just wanted to put the brothers behind the bars, and I believe he was linked to someone who could bring him major benefits by doing so.
Leslie is the woman in their lives for a reason. She makes up for what Erik and Lyle lacked in their own mother - a protector, a defender, a fighter. She was their gift from God Almighty.
So pathetic on the judge’s part. She’s totally rational - she’s making her argument passionately and he’s calling her “too emotional.” Ridiculous. He just can’t handle her power.
Both judge and prosecutor obvs had a bias and had already made up their minds both in their opinions of the bothers and the reason for the murder. Erik and lyle exposed every little detail and bad things that happened to them for the world to see for no reason at all cuz it amounted to jackshit for them. No mercy at all. What the fuck ever does erik maybe being gay have to do with him being raped as a child? Seems like the guy was implying that if he was gay he wouldve liked the abuse, nevermind that he was a kid. Gross and pathetic. Jesus himself could come down to earth and tell everyone in that courtoom that what the brothers were saying was true and they still would send them to prison for life
Well, the prosecutors had to their jobs regardless of what they believed. But yeah the judge was a shithead for being biased, and the lady prosecutor is a shithead for maintaining her stance about the brothers to this day despite the overwhelming evidence that they were abused.
@@philip7833 i really don't understand why she was in the netflix documentary, by all means it seemed like a solid doc where the creator cared about the story he was telling, but my main gripe is that that woman had way too much screentime, even more than the family members it felt like. like yeah i'm sure maybe that has something to do with the fact that neither of the brothers' attorneys wanted to be in it, and sure back in the day she was doing her job. but it's just willful ignorance to still think like that today, as you said.
She is on point and right but i also understand the judge in this case reminding her to deliver the message more professionally. I do believe it hurt their case and turned the male jurors into dismissing them (as female jurors suggested the males claimed sexual abuse of teenage boys just doesnt exist and the woman were just emotionally swayed) even though the evidence was so overwhelming in their favour.
The judge is the living proof of the narrow stereotypical mindset that perpetrated "men cannot be sexually molested by their fathers" in the 90s. And for this reason the brothers case needs to be vacated and set them free because they are innocent. Ps: do not reply to me with the same counter arguments (stereotypes) because i wont be entertaining them.
The judge is one of those "women are too emotional" guys.
She was too emotional though, in court you can’t be like that. Imagine if the prosecution or the judge acted like that. How unprofessional and biased everything would be.
*My first thought exactly*
@@emilianorodriguez8961 oh come on, what a shocker he would refer to a woman as being emotional when she was in fact frustrated and with good reason. trying to make a point so obvious and they just ignored. F that judge!
@@emilianorodriguez8961 also, as a woman, get ready... there would be times when you'll be incisive and a guy will turn to you and say "bro why u being so emotional?"
Judge dismisses the woman as emotional...irrrational..Yet a man who defends with passion would be exhibiting strength.
Leslie was a modern woman already.
So was the prosecutor.
@@sooz5703 she said males lacked the body parts to be raped ?????
@@sooz5703 no pam is a dumbass who thinks boys and men cant be raped, shes a clown
That judge should be investigated 100%
He's probably dead. He looks half dead here
Yes - the Judge is most of the problem
@@PaulMchugh-b3bsadly not. hope he sees the day they get out
@@PaulMchugh-b3bOMG💀
Yes!
Leslie is like the mom Erik should’ve had 😢
Definitely!
True
For sure! I think that’s why she fought so hard and aggressively, mama bear.
💯
She was his first protector!
That judge is disgusting
are you a parent of them?
@@Marketoromagnolo don't have to be a parent to know that people should sympathise with children that were SAed
@@jim.mendezz i just asked because you had same name.
@@Marketoromagnolo I am also just a Menendez
Leslie is disgusting...have you seen her recently?
would the judge be calling her emotional if she were a man?
doubt it
yes obviously
Exactly
Yes because these 2 losers killed people.
Nope.
Erik is not gay and it wouldn't matter if he was. The case isn't about his sexuality lol.
That's what I said he was worried about all the wrong things ‼️
And it’s not about ALLEGED abuse.
true! This is the STORY of incest!
He is though. I agree, it doesn't matter. But, he's had a couple of homos*xual relationships.
He is though. I agree, it doesn't matter. But, he's had a couple of homos*xual relationships.
So if he’s gay it justifies his dad abusing him right? … wtf
YEAH WTF!!! That judge is disgusting!!!
The Prosecutor said that it was impossible for boys or men to be r@p3d.
Insane. No moral at all
Judge should be fired
It's an elected position.🤣🤣🤣🤣
this is insane! the judge is absolutely awful to her, im nearly finished watching all of erik’s testimonies and any objection leslie has he overrules it but any other lawyer objecting it’s sustained, not only did he have a prejudice against erik and lyle but he had one against leslie too which is so unbelievably unprofessional
Agreed
the judge was biased from the beginning and only got worse. so unfair.
Yes, it was so infuriating!
How did she not win.
They shouldve been free a long time ago.
Agree completely. Praying for them now 🙏🏻
Democrats of the California living socialite circles . Which consists of Democrat pervert leaders and music executives
They're gonna be freed, immediately after two consecutive life sentences without the possibility of parole!
They didnt win because OJ was found not guilty and LA county never gave the brothers a fair trial. They stacked the cards against them to ensure a win.
Leslie hits the nail on the spot once again... She is first-class attorney ❤
Bro I hate this judge sm
leslie is absolutely correct. ✅
& it svcks that the judge said emotions are counterproductive. leslie is compassionate & passionate on what she’s fighting for.
Yep nothing wrong w being emotional on something you believe in!
If anyone is being too emotional, irrational and unable to discuss objectively, it's him. He is the one who would be more convincing if he stopped saying 'stop being so emotional', not her. All I heard is her discussing evidence
@@cm-yu6gu The judge was speaking in a monotone voice.
@123451248ify lol WHAT. As if that makes you unemotional?? It's about the content of what you're saying and in what context. She was being rational and he was being irrational, doesn't matter about the tone of voice
@@cm-yu6gu He wasn't displaying any emotion in his voice. When you're emotional, you don't speak that way.
Dirty Judge! 😡 Have some sympathy! 😢
The judge was the worst
Any sympathy for the people they killed? No? Why? Oh huh your an idiot that believes the abuse story 😂
@@SlayerPDX no, the judge was crooked. He worked with the prosecution after they lost the oj murder case so they could get a conviction, which broke the sixth amendment that allows anyone and everyone to have a proper defense in a state of court. The prosecution took away their entire defense in the second trial, which was unconstitutional. abused or not, it wasn’t a fair situation for the brothers.
What a damn queen that woman is and what a trash judge and prosecutor
Erik was like: GO MOMMA!
You go leslie! Problem is the judge didn’t like her emotionality. He got on her through most of the trial. Frankly he was annoying.
Omg I love Leslie so much ❤❤❤
ooh, me too
So ahead of her time and such a real, strong heart
Good for her!!
This Judge makes me wonder...what was he trying to hide or protect?
His bias is suspect.
He probably was against the boys killing their parents; probably knew Jose and had dealings with him
“If it hurts, it shouldn’t “. You go Queen
The obvious bias of the judge trying to blame the sons for their father's sexual violence. What a f***wit. He should've been sacked for being so prejudiced in this case.
The judge and anybody capable of critical thinking knew the abuse bullshit was a lie.
This woman, Leslie Abramson, truly loved Erik like he was her own son. During his second trial, he ran out of money, and Leslie didn't care about that, she still defended him for free. That's how you know she truly cared about him and not just a paycheck. God bless her! 🩷🥺
That lawyer is so freaking awesome intelligent
sarcasm ? lol
She’s soooooo amazing
Then why are the brothers in prison?
That judge should have never been allowed to be a judge. Leslie for president.
The micro aggression of Leslie being “irrational” by the judge says enough. All of his cases should be reviewed.
Can we all just say, telling a woman to "calm down" has never helped. Ever.
The Judge knows it..he is a jerk..a button pusher.
Does not belong on the bench.
My only thought while watching this was, “POP OFF QUEEN!!!!YOU TELL HIM GIRL!”
She’s an amazing attorney. Cleared that guy.
Leslie: I hope you see this.... May God bless you and ALWAYS remember what YOU did for those kids.
It is also emotional to find her being emotional contraproductive. If he is rational he will judge the argument, not the manner in which it is delivered.
It does help her emotions, she passionate, keep going Leslie 💪
She did an awesome job fighting for Erik!!! I admire her passion! Hopefully both brothers go free very soon!
Please citizens of America, someone needs to create a petition to investigate that judge
Leslie was a force and this Judge didn’t like that about her.
There was no justice for these two brothers. Typical American system. Blame the abused children.
erik is not gay! 🙄🤦♀️
And even if he was, that's irrelevant to the case, it's like they're somehow blaming him for what happened with his father.
And that right there is sad and disgusting, trying to hone in on his sexuality. Because for some reason they(people in general) think or thought that it mitigates the crime. "Oh he's gay, therefore he wanted it" just sad@@thewormloop6885
He is though. I agree, it doesn't matter. But, he's had a couple of homos*xual relationships.
Happy 54th Birthday ERIK 🎂 🎉👑💫🎊 FREE ERIK AND LYLE WE LOVE YOU❤
She was a lioness
With all the injustice and frustration in this case, I am happy that Erik got to experience somebody care so deeply about the suffering he faced and fight for his honor from her heart. Lyle's lawyers were great too, Leslie however has this intense maternal quality that was no doubt a healthy display for Erik compared to the coldness he got from his own mother. his slight smile as she defends him here makes me happy, knowing he saw the passion she felt in regards to him and his brothers long ignored pain
I love her - what a strong, intelligent woman, fighting and understanding a world that wasn't yet ready to listen.
I hated the judge in the court he was so unfair to them it made me so upset
A powerful lawyer and an even more powerful person!
Good on her. I’m glad she was able to speak her mind here.
She was the mother figure he never had
So according to Mr. Kuriyama and Judge WEISSMAN if a straight girl is SA'd by her father, it is okay because she likes men? OK
Thank you! Excellent point.
You go Leslie , Well done to you. You have their back all the way. Look after those boys Leslie.
Watching from the UK 🇬🇧X
Huh. Rather than respond to this attorney’s valid and well-spoken remarks, the judge chooses to accuse her of being overly emotional. Shhhhocker.
This judge had some kind of a problem with Leslie, I think. I believe he’s hard on her.
Judge should be trialled
I have to say it! Leslie is our spirt animal!!!!!!!
She is class, I love this woman.
Leslie was being the 'protective parent' who faught to defend that these guys never had. No wonder they caught so hard for her to continue to represent them.
Great lady. Judge was against menendez from the start
stand up judge! Leslie ate him up
This trial would ne handled COMPLETELY differently now!
2:10 - 2:11 heartbreaking how Erik reacts to all of this, I can feel his dissociation and you can even his shoulder shakes because of stress
Her vocabulary ❤
i love this woman
Love Leslie, she did her best as Erik's lawyer ❤🔥
This woman is an angel on earth. I feel blessed to know of her
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
💕Unbelievable. 🙏🏻Praying they get out💕👸🏻
From South Africa, never knew about this,until o saw this now, I really feel so sad and sorry for these brothers. I hope and pray you will be free soon.
No matter he is gay or not his father's abuse to a minor child who has no knowledge of what's happening with his body is not legit at all. The judge is disgusting.leslie is the right person to defend Erik .
That Judge is not competent for his role
ugh I'm currently 12 consecutive hours through watching the trial and have already gotten angry so many times, and it's unbelievable that i'm just going to get even angrier during moments like this. the judge and prosecution, especially pamela bozanich, make my blood boil
Shes a good attorney
☹️💔
The judge didn’t care about the proofs and evidences that accurately showcased the abuse the brothers went through. He just wanted to put the brothers behind the bars, and I believe he was linked to someone who could bring him major benefits by doing so.
Her passion was memorable, but it played a part in the judge being biased to the brothers
Love her 💪🏻🫶🏼
Leslie is the woman in their lives for a reason. She makes up for what Erik and Lyle lacked in their own mother - a protector, a defender, a fighter. She was their gift from God Almighty.
What does being gonna do with anything anyway? So what if he actually is gay?
That judge is so awful. Leslie had every right to show her anger!
The look from Erik @2.17 after that lioness states she wasn't finished
So pathetic on the judge’s part. She’s totally rational - she’s making her argument passionately and he’s calling her “too emotional.” Ridiculous. He just can’t handle her power.
Judge is horrendous and should be sued by the brothers
She's right.
She's absolutely right. It was absolutely a red herring.
Leslie 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
What a powerful lawyer, nobody could have save them she did the best to save them .
2:13 😂
Such a badass!!! I love her
I really feel sorry for them and even more for leslie to feel so powerless due to this stupid judge
wtf with this judge? seriously!
Kitty should be like Leslie, not afraid to defend these boys.
She’s right and I don’t blame her for getting so pissed.
Both judge and prosecutor obvs had a bias and had already made up their minds both in their opinions of the bothers and the reason for the murder. Erik and lyle exposed every little detail and bad things that happened to them for the world to see for no reason at all cuz it amounted to jackshit for them. No mercy at all. What the fuck ever does erik maybe being gay have to do with him being raped as a child? Seems like the guy was implying that if he was gay he wouldve liked the abuse, nevermind that he was a kid. Gross and pathetic. Jesus himself could come down to earth and tell everyone in that courtoom that what the brothers were saying was true and they still would send them to prison for life
Well, the prosecutors had to their jobs regardless of what they believed. But yeah the judge was a shithead for being biased, and the lady prosecutor is a shithead for maintaining her stance about the brothers to this day despite the overwhelming evidence that they were abused.
@@philip7833 i really don't understand why she was in the netflix documentary, by all means it seemed like a solid doc where the creator cared about the story he was telling, but my main gripe is that that woman had way too much screentime, even more than the family members it felt like. like yeah i'm sure maybe that has something to do with the fact that neither of the brothers' attorneys wanted to be in it, and sure back in the day she was doing her job. but it's just willful ignorance to still think like that today, as you said.
i love her sm
she was way ahead of her time
Damn casting for the show was on point
She is on point and right but i also understand the judge in this case reminding her to deliver the message more professionally. I do believe it hurt their case and turned the male jurors into dismissing them (as female jurors suggested the males claimed sexual abuse of teenage boys just doesnt exist and the woman were just emotionally swayed) even though the evidence was so overwhelming in their favour.
Judge should be tried
The judge was the problem in all of the injustice that happened to these men.
Definitely a corrupt judge
Gaslighting Judge what a pr***
Leslie Abramson is de Queen 👸
Damn I would want this woman to be my lawyer.
"I am sorry, judge, you know, i am emotional" 👏🏻🫶🏻 just a person who truly believes in your client is capable to fight and defend like that.
The brothers got both the best lawyer and worst judge for their trial case…
The judge is the living proof of the narrow stereotypical mindset that perpetrated "men cannot be sexually molested by their fathers" in the 90s. And for this reason the brothers case needs to be vacated and set them free because they are innocent.
Ps: do not reply to me with the same counter arguments (stereotypes) because i wont be entertaining them.
Good. Groupie. 🤣🤣🤣🤣